We all know /a/ hates streaming but what about its manga equivalent: online readers?
Online readers with downscaling, compression and watermarks.
But even then, online readers still manage to be pieces of shit.
Mangafox would be a better example considering they downscale and watermark other people's releases on their site
Batoto still takes down a bunch of shit for little reason.
Batoto is the only decent online reader we have left, and even still I usually download mine.
Most of the time it's due to the scanlator's request
Batoto and Kissmanga are fine, though Batoto staff are shitfucks who remove shit based on their opinions sometimes. And all manga sites have shitty search engines.
All other sites are resizing watermarking garbage except scanlator's own personal readers.
That's about all there is to say.
nothing in the anime scene matches the scumfuckery that is mangafox and the likes.
>quickly remove Blade Play
>That shitty shoujo that has the same level of sexuality still up
I can't help to think that they are a bunch of landwhales.
Seen quite a few just for being prudes.
Batoto a shit. Staff is full of faggots who remove manga at random.
Yeah, brb, gonna read my manga on superior mangafox.
Yeah because mangafox is the only alternative. Please kill yourself.
I love the everliving shit out of them since i got the mango app on my phone, theyre how i pass time before i pass out every night/morning
Ok, mangareader, here I go.
Seriously. Give me a better alternative than Batoto and I'll be all over it.
I just assumed those series got dropped or went on hiatus
Its only acceptable if its Bakkin.
Kissmanga is fine too you fucking faggot.
Unfortunately mangareaders are the only viable option with manga.
Scanlators don't want to put their manga up on nyaa for some reason, usually muh fame. Too bad that when their site gets DMCA'd, no one can get the links. Just try hunting down scans for Rave from the original websites. You can't. It and series like it are only available on bakabt because readers compile it.
Batoto needs some alternate site where they host all the shit they keep removing.
I dislike the site setup, with pages not being separated and all that. Plus no random manga button.
Extoto. The x makes it sound cool.
>with pages not being separated and all that.
Nobody reply to this guy anymore. His opinions don't matter. He's just a retard.
>with pages not being separated
So you're just an idiot, that's explains a lot.
It's called "any other online reading site."
Cool. Missed that. It's not like I bothered to look around for long when Batoto displays it the way I prefer from the get-go.
Use batoto primarily, use kissmanga secondarily for anything not on batoto.
Problem fucking solved.
>batoto lets shoujo shit with sex in every page stay
>removes any manga that has sex in it and isn't shoujo
I like online readers because it makes reading manga on a tablet a lot more convenient.
We've already established that you're dumb. There's no need for you to open your mouth anymore and further reinforce that opinion of you.
Would be great if a retard like you would just leave /a/ altogether though.
>do I fit in yet, guys? May I join your secret club now?
How was he even remotely trying to fit in? You're acting like a fucking retard, complaining about things that spending 2 seconds looking around would fix.
Wow. You've really redeemed yourself with that witty comment. I was totally wrong about calling you a retard. You sure showed me.
>Secret club fallacy
Stopped reading there. I can't take you seriously.
You fail to see why I can't bother to look around a site I disliske when there's another site that fits me better?
Also, complaining? I simply said why I prefered Batoto, and you guys start flinging shit. Trying to fit in harder is barely possible.
They also still have yomeiro choice up. Do they just accidentally miss some series or just targeting the ones that they don't like?
Nobody forced you to in the first place.
>Do they just accidentally miss some series or just targeting the ones that they don't like?
Just like /a/ moderation
I am not autistic enough to search for and download each individual chapter and I imagine that would be a giant pain with older less popular series. Streaming anime is different because the quality is either ass or you have to pay for it.
If the scanlator's site has an online reader I use that
If they don't, I use batoto
If neither, whatever the fuck is the first option on Google that isn't mangafox
>Complain about no alternative other than Batoto
>Given a perfectly good alternative
>Complain about an option which can be changed with literally a few seconds of looking
>Go full retard after others call you out for being the dumb ass you are
BT only for chapter releases.
MT for everything else.
>Give me a better alternative than Batoto and I'll be all over it.
You call that complaining?
>literally a few seconds of looking
I made up my mind on Kissmanga a long time ago. I didn't spend time there because Batoto fit me better. Why would I bother looking around a site I didn't like?
Chink scans master race.
They are fine as long as you don't use shitty sites that has 5 watermarks and no zoom option/the image is made smaller to fit the frame, meaning you can't see shit.
Mangatraders is pretty convenient site to download manga(they even compile the downloads by volume). The only problem is that it takes days and up to weeks for the latest chapters to get uploaded and the download speeds can get slow as fuck.
MT has some pretty old versions of shit. BakaBT is usually better for completed stuff.
>You call that complaining?
Did I stutter?
>Why would I bother looking around a site I didn't like?
For a reason which could've been fixed if you had taken a second to look for. I never used Kissmanga before, and I found that button instantly.
I don't give a shit if you use Batoto or Kissmanga. I'm not trying to convince you to use Kissmanga over Batoto.
The problem here, is that you're fucking retarded. Every single reply that you make only goes to show how dumb you are. It would've been beneficial for all parties involved here if you had just stopped posting.
>The only problem is that it takes days and up to weeks for the latest chapters to get uploaded and the download speeds can get slow as fuck.
Never really had a problem with the download speeds unless a server was going down.
Everything is uploaded by members of the site so yeah there's going to be delay.
I hate the BBT format for manga. It's irritating all fuck. Thankfully I've never needed to download a manga series from there apart from 3x3 Eyes.
They usually go for original releases. Meaning no repacks. However, I can download at normal speeds, doing a bunch at a time and some of them are far more up to date. I do prefer volume repacks, but honestly it's easier to go with BBT as long as the naming scheme isn't totally out of whack.
>as long as the naming scheme isn't totally out of whack.
That's why I never liked it. Spent more time renaming over half the folder THEN packing everything into volumes which was tedious.
Started downloading some manga from BBT now and a few series like 090 still have that problem. Still, better than what was there years ago so I'll use it for a few series without loose chapters.
My chrome never does this. How do you make it do this? I visit this site daily.
online readers are often the only ways to get translated manga, even when it comes to fairly popular titles (example: v10-15 of One Outs).
>I visit this site daily
You visit Mangafox every day?
I see 10-15 on Mangatraders, although 5-9 are missing.
kiss manga... I use it because I can't be bothered clicking a page.
Yea, since they steal everything from the internet they update pretty quick. Then I can go to the scanlators and download direct. It's pretty convenient for managing when series I read get updated. Otherwise I would have literally no clue their is a new chapter of something that hasn't updated in 4 months. Like fucking Reversible, waiting was suffering.
Either use RSS feeds or MangaUpdates.
It actually doesn't matter what reader you are using, since the best thing to do is to download your mangos and read them in full HD resolution in mangameeya.
I see no problem with reading manga online. Sure, mangafox is utter shit, but there are alternatives. Without watermarks, without compressing, with "download" button right next to the each chapter, with scans updated whenever a volume comes out. It's not just the same as downloading manga and reading it "manually", it's better.
If we should complain abouth something it's watermarks put there by scanlators. That's the real evil here.
You do realise that MangaTraders online reader is compressed shit.
Yeah no. I will never be able to read like 5000 pages in a single go online.
that's nice. i guess noscript add-on 'hid' search results.
There's your problem. Just download the rar and use the reading software to read it.
>Caring about manga quality
Are you guys retarded?
This post >>101138948 seemed to promote the online reader. Even if unintentional.
Why do people still use this shit?
I don't read a lot of manga, but when I do I just use kissmanga, mainly because they keep the chapters on one page, so I can just scroll instead of having to load a new one every 5 seconds.
>not caring about sweat and tears artist put in his work
There are great scripts just for that.
HAHAHAHA FUCK YOU TOO. Batoto is infected with the same cancer that destroyed TV Tropes, and should be treated with the same utter disgust.
It'd be nice, but it's not going to happen. Batoto doesn't remove things because they have to, they remove them because their moderators get a boner whenever they imagine the smiles of all the imaginary children they've protected.
Does Batoto even bribe ('share ad revenue') scanlators anymore or have they built up enough momentum that they don't have to?
I like the scrolling on kissmanga but am I the only one that will be randomly redirected, without warning to ad sites? Is it just my crappy setup? I'm not very tech savvy.
Batoto is the only one I'm willing to tolerate, but it's still inferior to downloading and using CDisplay/Mangameeya/HoneyView.
Set all .rars .7z and .zip to open with your program of choice by default (because who opens those, anyway, when you can just right click to extract) and just double click the file.
The scroll is great. People don't like it?
BBT's no repacks and no renames policy is balls to the walls retarded, but I still use BBT for manga because it's still the easiest and fastest way to grab a whole series.
I actually downloaded 15 series last week and did some scripting work to rename them all. Took about ~30 minutes to get all 328 files renamed properly with only a few manual renames needed (the SugoiSugoi releases here didn't originally have chapter numbers, just volume number and chapter name, and the extra chapter also has no indication of where it should go so I had to look it up), but I still got tripped over thanks to some archives inside archives (thanks for this act of maximum retardation, scanlators).
How new are you? Mangafox is diarrhoea, absolute mess and terrible. Batoto is shit, it at least have some consistency so it's not so messy but in the end it IS pretty bad.
We usually use browser extentions that work even better and on every site.
Batoto and Kissmanga are the only ones I can tolerate. All of the others are just like porn sites with their obnoxious ad's gunking up my peripheral vision. It feels like you've just walked into a public mens room.
>>not caring about sweat and tears artist put in his work
>Thinking using an /a/ aproved manga site changes the fact that you're still pirating
>Thinking this is "caring about the sweat and tears artist put in his work"
>online readers all suck, you should stop using them
>except batoto, batoto is the only exception
>haha look at that faggot using batoto
>online readers all suck, you should stop using them
>except kissmanga, kissmanga is the only exception
>implying I don't legally buy manga I like to support the author
>Says reading mango online supports the artist
>someone points out that it's piracy
>"We-well I buy the mango too!"
I didn't imply that all, you retard. You were saying reading it online helps the artist. I just pointed out that it doesn't.
I never said that it helps the artist. Buying it helps the artist.
But oline reading kills all his effort, because scans are in poor quality. We were talking about QUALITY of manga from the very beginning. You fucking imbecile.
For RSS readers:
What RSS software do you use? Or extension
>Says reading mango online supports the artist
What? Nobody said that at all.
>/a/ is one person
I prefer Mangatraders because I can download the original source and not having to suffer the shitty buffer or lazy load some have or the amount of retarded "banners" and shit some add to the releases like it happens with most online readers. Hell, I miss downloading One Piece chapters.
I download for old manga or manga with a lot of chapters out and use Batoto or another high quality online reader if I'm reading weekly.
Wait for someone to dump it on 4chan.
Mangafox is pretty good when you cut out a lot of the crap
They take down some stuff to appease prudish advertisers. It means the advertisers are fucking stupid, since no one ever thinks badly of a company just because their ad wound up next to some dodgy content. Fucking irritating but I can understand why Batoto does it.
I don't like using readers or streaming except for previewing something, but I currently have fuck all storage space so I'm forced into doing it right now. Holding out on new peripherals for the moment since I want to see what USB Type-C looks like first, and there's enough in my downloaded backlog as is.
Grab this script. It makes webreading a million times better.
I would be downloading manga if it wasnt for this
It still crashes a million times though.
I've downloaded manga and used online readers before, and frankly online readers feel more convenient for me. It seems kinda silly to waste the time downloading something you'll only read once.
I use mangahere, because I'm not infected with the same elitism that /a/ uses, read casually, and because apparently, Velvet Kiss isn't graphic enough to be removed.
>elitism is the same as having standards for quality
You're just a faggot willing to settle for less when there's a better option.
>Not using Crunchyroll
Fucking pirates, support the industry for once in your life.
Mangaka are all skinny and ill because of you people.
>Manga Storm app
Reading mangos has never been so comfy.
>support the industry
Saging for obvious bait.
>supporting the industry
Buy the manga directly from Japan you filthy pleb.
I read it online and buy it if I like it, (sometimes Jap sometimes English)
If there's anything to turns me off more about manga is the utter disorganization when compared to anime.
Online readers are the only choice right now if I want to get everything at one source.
Then how have Prison School and TLRD managed to survive?
Manga storm is such a good app, I don't know what I'd do without it.
Why do you autists care about downscaling so much when you're only going to read a page once for the rest of your lives?
Why do Anons care about the quality of something their hobby revolves around? Are you seriously asking this? How much of pleb can you be?
Truly it is
>dat great ui
>dat multiple sources
>dat download for offline
>dat iCloud sync
Only ever used it on my Iphone4 though
The only problem I have with online readers is when a translator group feels the need to slap water marks ALL OVER THE PAGE. no just a subtle semi transparent one in the bottom corner but literally in every other panel. Shit is offensive to look at.
If you're gonna do something, you should always choose the best option.
While I don't feel as strongly about quality as the other guys, I do understand why people are unhappy with Mangafox-tier quality. Don't even argue that it's not shit, but sometimes you gotta read what you gotta read.
>Have absolutely no problem translating the artists work without their permission and sharing it to the world
>Super anal about people sharing their translations to the world without permission
I will never understand scanlators.
Its not hard to understand you silly goose.
Some manga are fairly hard to find downloads for so I can understand resorting to online readers. Also sometimes when I'm out of the house but stuck somewhere for a while I decide to pick up a new manga and Readers are semi-convenient when it comes to on the go.
Nobody has requested they get taken down yet.
They only go down after a specific request, and presumably no advertisers have read those yet.
Remember, these requests are not coming from clever people.
What if someone were to report all the "mature" manga to the advertisers on Batoto?
I'm not sure you're understanding the typical level of the people we're talking about here.
We're talking about people who think that switching off the monitor is "turning the computer off."
The sort of people who will generally be satisfied by a boilerplate "we make every effort to remove inappropriate content" email and not look any deeper into it.
This is why the takedowns that already happen are so erratic: because they tend to hinge on the whim of someone likely computer-illiterate who gets hung up over a single series.
You might see one or two extra series go down, but not necessarily. There's every chance that your message will be ignored anyway, or that they fuck up investigating something and don't notice the smut (I've actually seen this happen with people who cannot into reading comprehension, they seem to skip past entire panels and pages without really taking anything in)
>people who think that switching off the monitor is "turning the computer off."
Why those people are in charge?
Because there are still many people who grew up without computers being a big part of life at every level from lower middle management up.
Don't worry, they'll die eventually. We will have the lingering legacy of other illiterates they tend to hire out of a sense of cameraderie over not needing those silly machines to get work done. In time, though, this too shall pass.
Except the new generation is just as retarded since everything is designed to be super intuitive, so if something doesn't work right away, they sit there stumped, not even able to use Google to search for answers.
this is so true that its kind of sad.
It will never get better. It's always the same. It's always like that.
We could've had colonies on Mars by now, if not for those people and those who pander to them.
As long as it's not downscalled and watermarked to hell, then it's fine.
It's your settings.
Been using Kissmanga for months and I never got any redirection to ads or shit.
Born at the right time to be forced how to learn to computer, and then suffer for it.
Why suffer when in the eyes of the simple ones you can be a literal God?
>implying they support the industry
Stop being a bitch and buy the tanks from moonland.
That's like being a King of the Retard Lands. In the end, you'll be the one raising cattle and cultivating the land, because peasants who should do this for you only know how to say "potato".
I can't even properly formulate how mad I am at their stupid standards.
Wow, I just saw that Batoto has even taken down Nana to Kaoru.. Like what the actual fuck?
There's not even nipples in that manga.
How can people be this fucking easly offended man, there is no hope.
That's why Batoto a shit. They care more about advertising money than their competition, and remove what ever series they feel like on a whim.
>Does Batoto even bribe ('share ad revenue') scanlators anymore or have they built up enough momentum that they don't have to?
To be honest, it's the advertisers who are at fault.
If I were in their situation, hosting a site that would allow me to get an income sufficient enough to support myself, I would have done the same.
I mean, pander to people who you will never meet or pander to the people who allow you to browse /a/ all day because they want an add on your page. It's not a very hard decision to make.
And eventually their decisions will drive everyone away.
Nobody is perfect...
Mangafox is close to it.
i still cant stand the "THIS IMAGE IS HOSTED AT "
Online readers censor manga? Really?
Fuck, all those SJW fags really deserve to be fucking burned alive.
Batoto doesn't allow manga like KnJ or Ichinensei.
Sadly, no. The sheep outweigh the critical thinkers by 1/10000000. Their business model works perfectly, just look at the world around you.
>hates mangareader and mangafox
Bet you guys made up your mind after hearing some anons give the former credit and talking crap about the later.
Hate all or don't give a shit.
these viral marketing threads, man
I haven't read much manga since onemanga was still around. Is the scanlation drama scene still as bad as before?
That's why no place outside 4chan is bearable.
>look at the world around you
Just why do you think I'm here?
Why would you even use an online reader, and if you for some reason choose to, why would you not pick one of the sites with decent quality and no watermarks?
I just don't understand.
I just download from mangatraders or scanner's site. I can use a desktop comic reader to avoid cringing with online readers.
But I did the opposite of what you said.
I like those little fold-out manga advertisements you get when you buy tanks. They're great toilet literature and you just can't get those when you read online.
You know you don't have to read it everytime, you know ?
Still better than shitty watermarks that takes half the page.
Batoto let's me slack off at work. At home I use a ripper program to quickly download and zip series. I can thank mangaupdate's faggotry for this.
>Forbids excellent manga like kodomo no jikan just because muh children
>Fucking whiteknight fedora and fujo-trash moderators
I'll stick with shitty mangafox, thanks.
I recently started to use Kissmanga, but I miss the whole "click left to go to next chapter once you finish the last page". Is it there any way to implement this in the site?
You can use kissmanga at least.
It doesn't delete shit.
Batoto is the only good online reader.
Choice of scanlations, the full resolution for each page is always available, ads that aren't obnoxious and can be blocked.
The only problem is that their admins are a TV Trope - esque nazi regime. If something I want isn't there, I just download it. Pulling scanlations on request isn't a bad thing either, other online readers would just take and host them regardless of what the original scanlators want.
Yes, the mods are retards but that doesn't mean the entire site is bad. Just download any manga you can't find there. It's not fucking rocket science.
>the only good online reader
Alright, Kissmanga, too. Forgot about them.
I love online readers because I love it when everything is blurry.
I love /a/ because there is always some kind of retard who doesn't know what he's talking about.
>Is the scanlation drama scene still as bad as before?
What do you think?
Drama will never go away.
I guess not?
Mangastorm (batoto) > Kissmanga > everything else
I like you.
Do none of you buy your manga? Am I the only one?
I import shit to scan it.
You're doing god's work anon.
Nothing degenerate though right?
I do, but I still read most of my manga online.
I only buy something if I liked it a lot.
Oh I import all sorts of degenerate things for my own pleasure.
But the stuff I am getting to scan seems to be approved of by /a/.
How do you import them? There's this one manga that I want to finish. It's nothing good or decent but I need to finish it just because. I'm OCD or something.
I used to. I realized being 30+ and buying more or less japanese teenager comics with weird themes looks bad. Got to keep appearances up.
If you can read imported manga, you should be able to manage navigating a Japanese bookstore's website. That is all you need.
Why ssk that? You are aware most people on /a/ can't read moon and tons of translated manga don't exist for purchase, right
Who's going to know?
It's an adult thing. Few people even heard about anime and manga here. There is no way I could keep such books on display in my apartment without destroying the social life I have.
You have a family??
Not everyone is a loser on /a/.
There's no way I wrote ssk instead of ask
Moot must be stealing letters now too
Yeah but who's going to know?
Just put shit in a closet
No one hopefully. I rent a self storage unit where I have about 80 volumes of manga. I plan to auction off everything except the sci-fi stuff.
Yeah and friends. I go to great lengths to keep everything I do secret. In fact I virtualize and encrypt everything on my computers. The missus have no idea that the windows 7 she is using is actually a virtual machine running on linux.
>buying chinese kiddy comics
>not a loser
>windows 7 she is using is actually a virtual machine running on linux
Good job, I'm actually impressed.
>The missus have no idea that the windows 7 she is using is actually a virtual machine running on linux.
It's actually more of a way to keep computer maintenance at a minimum. She is as cluelass as your average female when it comes to computers so a vm with periodic snapshots makes it easy to roll back.
Was actually inspired by the pasta.
Fuck the scanlators, I miss the times where those fucks weren't jews.
I miss the times where pirates didn't were entitled pieces of shit. I mean let's be honest here, they are just piratefags and don't deserve shit.
Why not just download the manga and read it with honeyview or something? I don't understand why anyone would purposefully want to read shit with terrible quality and watermarks all over it
are you retarded
Nice argument. I bet you're subscribed to CR too.
No I'm seriously asking. What's the benefit over downloading?
Not every site ruins the image quality.
If you had read the thread you'd seen it.
The ones we use don't have terrible quality and watermarks, they're the same as the downloads.
>Mangatraders is pretty convenient site to download manga
Once someone uploads to MT, that is the version they have. They often keep the old version even when better versions or replacements come out. On the other hand, BakaBT tries to get the best version and will update to the best one. So if cleaner tankoubon scans come out, BakaBT updates to those whereas MT has kept the old scans before.
BakaBT's speciality is in complete sets and having the best version after a juried review process. You can even make your own comments or observe the review process at BakaBT via:
Picture from the Bio Meat Nectar manga which is available at BakaBT.
>I mean let's be honest here, they are just piratefags and don't deserve shit.
While the readers are pirates as you say and don't deserve shit, the scanlators still try to prepare items for the real fans to read. The problem occurs with the distribution method where UNgrateful readers also have access to the material.
In the old days, distribution was mostly to grateful fans who sincerely appreciated the work, so the amount of whining and spiteful complaints by non-fan readers was pretty much non-existent.
>The problem occurs with the distribution method where UNgrateful readers also have access to the material
The problem is that scanlators are doing their shit because of e-fame. It doesn't matter who which kind of person reads their stuff, in the end everyone with half a brain knows that most people don't give a shit.
MT is community driven. Just upload the better version with a comment on the quality improvement and the files will be changed. I've done it before with Yandere Kanojo and some other series.
I only buy a series that I loved when I read it online except JoJo
Still hoping pic related gets localized in English soon
I use Batoto because a lot of anonymous "No Group" stuff gets uploaded there that never gets posted on Manga Updates since they don't have a group (on that note, fuck Manga Updates' staff). Batoto has become scanlator heavy, so of course I use it.
I just found out that Crunchy added Arpeggio, Soredemo and Spirit Circle to their manga selection, will the groups translating this drop it because of this?