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First Kerry and now this stupid kid. Why do I always get the shitty masters?
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>>101123899
Look you little shit you win every fucking time so you can hardly call them shitty masters
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>>101126133
Kirei and Gilgamesh won the 4th war. Kirei used the Grail and Gilgamesh became independent of a Master to survive.
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>>101126133
>Kirei used the Grail

Incorrect.
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>>101126837
Shut up Saber
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>>101126442

>Kirei used the Grail
>Kirei ever winning anything

No.
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>>101126931
What? He didn't. If he had, Angra Mainyu actually would have been released and all sorts of shit would have went down. No one used the grail in the fourth war. Fucking secondaries.
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It's been a while since I read this. Is there a HGW after the events in FSN? No right since Manyu was destroyed?
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Shirou isn't into men
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>>101127078
Depend on which ending, I think Heaven's Feel should have stopped the cycle.
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>>101127078
No, there's never another war, although the only route where AM/the grail is only destroyed or shut down during the events of F/SN is HF. Ten years after Fate and UBW, Rin and Waver come back to dismantle the ritual for good.
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>>101127078
The only one that has multiple grail war was in Apocrypha.
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>>101123899
Cause you're a shitty servant.
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>>101127165
To be fair if a naked woman showed up in front of you you'd probably do the same thing.
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>>101126442
well it's more like saber destroyed the grail and the leftover shit fell onto kirei and gil and somehow gave gil True Incarnation and revived kirei. i don't think gil actually wanted TI and i don't think kirei actually wished for a scene of destruction and horror. he probably did but my point is that i don't think it was the grail that caused his wish to come true. it happened that way because he set events in motion that way.
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>>101127379
They destroyed the little grail, not the big grail. So they didn't accomplish jack shit really.
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>>101127320
Depends on which naked woman it was
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>>101127379
Wasn't the deal about the grail granting wishes just a bunch of horse shit? I thought it was just meant to open a path to the origin and circumvent the normal counter guardian system that would in most cases prevent this by subverting it into the spell itself and the thing about wishes was just to lure mages in to help complete the spell.
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Can someone explain to me, lorewise, what Nero and Tamamo's Noble Phantasms actually do?
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>>101127379
>he probably did but my point is that i don't think it was the grail that caused his wish to come true

That's right. It was just a coincidence that what happened fell in line with his desires. Gil's not entirely incorrect in saying that the grail granted Kotomine's wish because in a way it did, but not on purpose or because he actually made a wish on it.

>>101127608
It is and it isn't. The original purpose of it is not to grant wishes, but with the amount of mana it gathers together over the course of a war, it can effectively be used for almost anything. It's not really meant to grant wishes, but it has the ability to.
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Just so you know, every servant was actually based on a real historical figure.
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>>101127681
Nero Claudius fancied himself a jack of all trades, believing he had divine or supernatural talent at anything he turned his mind to. The Golden Theater symbolizes that belief, letting Saber be the best at anything she wants, in F/E's case, combat.
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>>101128574
Pretty sure John Wilkes Booth was in one of them. Not sure as what though. Assassin?
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>>101128574
>Sasaki Kojiro
>Emiya
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>>101128842
Sasaki Kojiro wasn't a real servant, and Emiya was a historical figure in-universe. (Or would become one in the future.)
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>>101123899
Because you keep getting masters that are the same as you

Kerry believing in the needs of the many over the few just like Saber had, to the point that their ideals were about the same aside from the heroism thing.

Shirou believes in self sacrifice and becoming a machine to help out others just as Saber once did as well, to the point that her wish is to literally deny her own existence. Saber also says she feels a real connection with Sakura, since Sakura blames herself overly for her own mistakes to the point that she's more drawn into punishing herself than correcting herself at times.

Really Saber is getting only a mirror that points back at herself with each new master she receives, so if she finds fault in them then she finds fault in herself.
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>>101123899
Because people enjoy watching you suffer.
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>>101127681
>The Flamboyant Golden Theatre (Noble Phantasm)

>Aestus Domus Aurea. Red Sabre's Noble Phantasm, which represented the explosion of her bothersome artistic talent.
>Its precise name was Aestus Estus Domus Aurea.
>In Latin, Aestus Ustus meant "passion" and "heat", while Domus Aurea was the name of the theatre that was constructed.
>It was the manifestation of the tale of Red Sabre declaring "Heed my song!" and locking everyone in the theatre to listen to his singing.
>It created a golden theatre in which everything was advantageous to Sabre, and made it into the battle field. There were rose petals dancing in the air.
>It was different from a Reality Marble, which covered the current World with a different World. The Golden Theatre could persist for long periods because it was built on top of the current World.
>As an aside, when the Golden Theatre was risen, Sabre's sworld would be shrouded in flames like that of the Mount Vesuvius, causing an infernal. Such was the initial design.
>However, it was cut because of the difficulty to animate. The sad limit of handhelds.
>In terms of derivatives, it seemed that there was the Silver Workshop for Sabre's artistic endeavours, and "Blazing Kitchen" for cooking competitions.
>Such was the will of Her Majesty.
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>>101127681
Caster's NP basically creates a domain with infinite prana for her for a few moments, so she can cast as many spells as she wants with no recoil.
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>>101123899
Have you tried opening up to the boy, Saber?
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the real question is are they ever going to animate apocrypha?

>Two Grails
>double the servants and masters
>motherfuckin sigfreid
>DRACULA
>femdom

it should print money
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>>101123899
He gets a bit smarter in each following route at least, but that's partially because he starts out at the worst.
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>>101129149
Once the novel is finished.
Vol 4 is confirmed to be longer than other volumes so hopefully the remaining Servants won't get shafted.

If kalleid/Illya can get anime, anything Fate related can get anime.
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>>101129149
Once they are done printing money off of the Fate/Stay Night adaption they'll likely do it. That, or F/HA.

>yfw we get anime adaption before translation
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>>101129149
You forgot Jeanne and Shiro Amakusa and his waifu
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>>101129339
No fuck you they're going to reanimate Tsukihime after this
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>>101129656
No, only after the remake

It will only be done after the remake
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>>101129236
>Vol 4 is confirmed to be longer than other volumes so hopefully the remaining Servants won't get shafted.
And the translation will never happen.
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Type-Moon? More like Type-Shit.
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>>101129824
You're being hella 酷い right now.
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>>101129339
OMG IS HABBENING
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>>101130647
OH FUCK
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>>101130647
>tfw started to read f/h a and stopped an hour or two in because it felt like bad fanfiction
i really should give it another go sometime soon
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>>101123899
>stupid kid
YOU SURE DIDN'T THINK THAT WHEN YOU SUCKED HIS DICK SAIBA
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I want to cum inside Seiba.
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>>101131103
Well, duh. It's hard to say anything with a stupid kid's dick in your mouth.
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>>101130647
Did someone submit a bunch of google translations again?
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>>101131131

They were at 99.7% legitimately a couple days ago, so probably not.
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>>101123899
It's your karma
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>>101123899
Holy shit, my dad's name is Kerry
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>>101133592
So is mine. Holy shit dude I think we have the same dad.
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>>101133592
>>101134219
Samefag.
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>>101129149
I really hate 1/3 of the servants in f/a based on their designs.
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>>101127608
>and the thing about wishes was just to lure mages in to help complete the spell.
No. It actually was made to grant wishes. Digging into the root and grabbing an effectively endless amount of energy was a means to an end.

At the core of the grail you would find Justicia of the Einzberns.
And the Einzberns used to have an interesting Sorcery Trait, "Wish Granting". That basically allowed them to theoretically fulfill any kind of magic, even if they didn't actually know the required spell(s), their sorcery trait would make it happen granted they had enough energy and that their circuit could process it bandwidth wise or whatever.

The grail is essentially the Einzbern's magic itself, the art that they had lost, but built to circumvent their limitations of energy and bandwidth and whatever.

Within it lies their notable family member, and the workings of the grail is the magic grown by the Einzberns throughout history.
It grants wishes, and it's no wonder the Einzberns considers themselves to have special rights of ownership to it.
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>>101137982
Astolfo is pretty cool. And I like Jack in a sociopathic-loli-murderer sort of way.

I really hate Atalanta. The damn ears and tail just kill me.
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>>101129656
Even if they do, it will be Arcueid route again
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>>101138133
I ain't even gay, but damn I wanna stick my dick in Astolfo's boypussy.
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>>101138397
>boypussy.

But anon, Astolfo's gender is le secret~
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>>101138654

If there's one thing I've learned from watching anime, if looks like a cute girl, and if I find myself attracted to it, then it's always going to be revealed it's actually a guy. That just seems to be the fundamental rule of my life, so I've given up and accepted the fact that I'm stuck being 2D gay.
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>>101138028
Wow. Where did you even get this? I had heard some of it, but the "wish granting" is new even to me.
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>>101138736
Some side material I figure. Wish granting is on the wiki at the very least.
typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Sorcery_Trait
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>Untranslated 0

Now we only have to wait for 11000 lines to be validated



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