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I don't know how the fuck I avoided this show for 7 years, but after all the completely justified hype THIS is what happens to him?

REALLY?
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really
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really
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hontou
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rossiu a shit.
Kittan's speccy cunt sister a shit
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what, becoming a spiral wizard not good enough for you OP?
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Yep. Kamina dies a virgin, Kittan dies a virgin, Simon becomes a dirty hobo with no friends, and Rossiu becomes President of the Goddamn Universe.
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>>101106348
hontou ne?
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>Rossiu becomes The Intergalactic President of the universe
>Simon is a dirty hobo with no friends
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Requesting the "Dead virgin, dead virgin, lonely hobo, PRESIDENT OF THE GODDAMN UNIVERSE" picture.
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Why did he choose this life, anyway?
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really
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simon never wanted to be a god or president of the universe or anything like that. he lived his life for the others, for kamina's dream and thats about it.
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>>101106059
Really
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Rossiu should have killed himself.
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>>101106464
Majide
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Doesn't get any better than this
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>>101106435
its not good enough for me
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Before some faggot calls the ending thematically consistent, the moral of the story was to never stop pushing forward. They had just made alien contact and needed representatives to pave the way for a new galactic empire. So the leader of the free world abandons his friends and becomes a hobo. Even Simon lecturing everypme about not playing god when he let Nia die was a stretch considering he was chucking fucking solar systems around a week before but with this it's incredibly obvious Gainax had no clue where the fuck they were going with this story and just needed it to end.
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Watch the second movie now, OP.
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>>101106832
Yes, and moving forward can mean moving on from the past, just like Simon previously did after Kamina died.
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>>101106059
>7 years

It's..

It's been that long?
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>>101106763
Does a more hype episode exist in all of anime? 25 had me on the edge of my seat the whole time.
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>>101106832
Only retards who are too stupid to follow a plot (like the people who complain about most airing anime having plotholes when in reality they're just too stupid to pay attention) think anything in the second half was good. They had the characters literally say "These are the themes! Check out this epic speech and drill!" and it was enough to make them think it was good.

The first half was a nice coming of age story, the second half was a clusterfuck of Imaishi thinking he was clever, but in reality it was just horribly implemented themes, raped character development and plot holes topped off with Imaishi's classic retard ending.

I hate when people call TTGL or PSG Gainax endings, when a real Gainax ending is something like Gunbuster or EoE.
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why people say he became a hobo? he is obviously an adventurer traveling the worlds
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>>101106059
If you watch the movie, you find out that he isn't just some hobo. Instead he's going around, possibly forever because he could not age like the Spiral King, helping anyone and everyone out in return that they plant flowers.

He has made it his new life goal to cover the world in flowers, just like Nia wanted. He was very nearly a god, capable of doing anything he wished. However if he continued along like that, he would almost surely cause the spiral nemesis just like the Anti-Spiral believed would happen. He realizes this so he stepped back to allow others to move forward while he worked to fulfill his dead wife's wish.
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Guys, he's not a hobo.
>He's a fucking spiral wizard.
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>>101106764
Man, why do I feel like I'm looking at a screen shot from Kill la Ki-

Oh, right.
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>>101106956
Yes. TTGL aired in 2007.
Panty, Stocking and Garterbelt was 2010.
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>>101107076
I was planning on watching the movies a bit later but I'm glad its explained.
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>>101107057
Anno TTGL remake when?
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THE BATTLE OF UNIVERSES
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>>101107386
A few years ago. Watch the movies. Shit yourself at the new ending.
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>>101107386
Never. Just declare the second half not cannon, and let the team make what they had intended before Imaishi went full autist on the script.

If you have to take a fan theory to explain why you completely changed the story and declare that cannon, you're writers and directors are shit.
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>>101107386
I'd really like a movie/OVA of Simon deciding to say 'fuck it' and plays god and brings back his dead loved ones, causing the spiral races to turn against him in fear of him causing the spiral nemesis, and then we see what happened during the prologue of the first episode.
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>>101107612
>not getting chills when Simon meets up with Kamina in the inter dimensional labyrinth
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>>101107076
This.

If he had brought back everyone back from the dead it would have went against the whole point of him promising not to abuse the shit out of spiral energy.
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>>101107668
have you tried watching the parallel work with genome's past? that's what would happen
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Nia's death was so, so frustrating. The entire second half of the show was a feel-good underdog beat-the-odds story where Simon just wanted to get his girl back. In the end he finally does, it's great, and then 5 minutes later she evaporates for some poorly explained reason.

If she'd died some other way that was actually relevant to the story or during the battle it would've been much better. The just let a normal happy ending play out and then yank the rug out from under it for no reason.
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>>101106059
Fuck me.

After all those years this is the first time I see the spiral on Simon left eye.
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>>101108539
Genome's past was him and old Earth attempting to fight the Anti-Spirals and when Lordgenome found out that their constant increase in spiral power would inevitably cause the spiral nemesis, making him decide to kill his brethren and force everyone to hide to prevent it from ever happening. The prologue has Simon aboard the Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann in ship mode, with an evolved boota and no other allies to be seen. He talks of how 'all the stars are our enemy now', while at the end of Gurren Lagann Elder Simon talks about the stars as 'where our spiral friends await'.

Really the only conclusion I can get from all of that is that Simon did something that caused every spiral being to turn against him. What else would it be than to prove he was going to become the thing all spiral races inherently know and fear?
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Look, guys, as far as fate goes for any of the male characters in Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.

Simon got a pretty decent deal. Although Nia vanishes, they still got their honeymoon, they still got to tell each other they love each other, and they still got married.

Isn't that a fair ending?
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>>101109579

Dayyaka had the best wife, and the best life.

And being the leader of food affairs?
Sweetest deal in the whole show.
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Just gonna leave this here.
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>>101110089
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Why are there daily threads on TTGL these days

Is there a new generation of anime fans that have just discovered shows we watched in 2007 or something?

Holy shit I'm old.
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>>101110089
why...just fucking why?
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>>101110253
The 720p blu-rays came out not too terribly long ago.
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>>101110276
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>>101110253
EVA still has a million threads a day. Why can't TTGL, which aired some ten years later, get one a day? Get back in the wheelchair Brando
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>>101106956
Getter Robo was released almost 40 years ago.
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>>101108040
No, I don't. There are plenty of shows that have dead allies show up that get me excited. The action and "hype" in TTGL isn't anywhere near enough for me to ignore how awful the writing and pacing is in the second half.

The parts that gave me chills were the "I'm not my aniki!" speech and the fight against Genome.

The stuff in space was fucking stupid.
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>>101110344
Holy sad as fuck
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>>101108883
It's done better in the movie, where the Anti-Spirals outright say what's gonna happen.
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>>101110344
Where is this from? Is this like Simon dying?
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>>101110362
ok
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>>101110422
And what is wrong with the writing and pacing? Note fucking stupid does not count as an argument

if you say it's too over the top I will fucking kill you that's the point
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>>101108276
>But if he brought them back!

No one thinks he should have brought them back. They think that Nia dying is fucking retarded as it was done at the last second with no proper foreshadowing, and was a direct contradiction of the world mechanics as she's Genomes biological daughter. Having a job as an antispiral messenger doesn't make you disappear when they're defeated, that's stupid.

Throwing "Well it shows Simon isn't selfish!" out as a response doesn't make sense because he was never shown to be selfish or to be tempted to revive people. They just killed her at the last second and said "Uh yeah, that happened because now we're going to show how mature Simon is even though he's had literally no character development or character flaws that would necessitate that kind of revelation in the first place for everything that happened post timeskip."

That's bad story telling, and if you bought into the crap lines the story fed you to make up for it's poor quality (because we all know telling is more important than showing!) then you should feel bad.
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>mfw I've never finished TTGL
The time is coming my friends. I don't care about spoilers since I just read the thread. Gonna get on it once I get my shit in order.
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>>101110641
Sounds like you're just mad your waifu died and won't be coming back.
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>>101110641
I think you need to rewatch the show, especially the Rossiu arc (and don't let your hate for Rossiu blind you this time, he was pretty right).
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>>101110344
>>101110089

And I was having such a good day.
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>>101107139
Based Imaishi
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>>101110604
>And what is wrong with the writing and pacing?
this
>>101110641
On top of that, literally every character was reduced to a plot device with no personality compared to their former selves whatsoever. There was no character development, and the "themes" they harped about are such basic things they apply to literally everything. They didn't show them at all. Moving forward happens in literally everything unless a character makes a point of being stuck in the past, escalation of conflict is in every action show, and the show was never focused on the human race or the next generation, it was always about Simon and his friends. The first half at least stuck to it's guns.
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>>101107076
>possibly forever because he could not age like the Spiral King,

Source?
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>>101110675
Godspeed.
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>>101110089
man I never watched the movies so I've been left with the incomplete story this whole time.

but I hated the pacing of the first movie. It's too condensed. Irrc, it's not like they even re-animated it (maybe a tiny fraction) and made it more fitting it the shorter time either.
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>>101110641
She only existed because she was an anti-spiral machine. Yes she was the biological daughter of Lordgenome, but she was a product of the anti-spiral before that. It's like shutting down the electricity in an android. She should have disappeared instantly, but she didn't due to sheer willpower.

And nigga what the fuck are you saying about no foreshadowing? It's foreshadowed in the final battle, and the many times they mention she is a sort of program of the anti-spirals. You don't pull the plug on a computer and expect the computer to keep running.
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>>101110404
JESUS CHRIST HOW HORRIFYING
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>>101106641
dostedt?
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>>101110833
>literally

Leave /a/ and never come back.
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>>101110910
The second movie was a lot better and focused more on Simon and Nia.
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>>101110732
Average TTGLfag
>Hurr it's so deep u want happy end fag!
No you idiot, I have no problem with a sad end, the execution was shit.

>>101110754
I think you need to rewatch the show and realize Rossius character was also retarded.
>He turned out that way because of his village!
No, his village had a "make sacrifices for the greater good" mentality. Simon's battle with the antispirals in the city caused some collateral damage but ultimately was the only way to stop them from killing literally everyone. Rossiu punished Simon for doing exactly what Rossiu was brought up to do. Rossiu is the definition of forced drama. On top of that they feed us lines about passing on the torch to the next generation, but Rossiu (a member of Simons generation) is still the leader of the world.

You're just listening to what characters say instead of actually paying attention to what happens in the story. It's a very poorly told story.
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>>101110963
you're trying too hard

it's not like he literally/figuratively/theoretically used it in a blatantly stupid manner
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>>101110919
>Yes she was the biological daughter of Lordgenome,
>but she was a product of the anti-spiral before that.
Please explain to me how's she's the biological daughter of Genome, which would by the explanations the show gives make her a spiral, but be a product of the antispirals.

It's literally the most retarded inconsistent writing I've seen, but retards still eat it up.
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>>101111054
I don't think you know what literally means.
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>>101110919
>It's foreshadowed in the final battle
I don't think you know what foreshadowing is.

And that didn't even happen in the original series.

>>101110963
Except that it's literally used correctly in this instance.
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>>101110404
Holy fuck. I wasn't even alive when that aired and I feel old now.
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>>101111116
That guy has it slightly wrong. It's said that the Anti-Spirals intervened and placed a special gene that would activate when a messenger was needed and turn her into an anti-spiral.
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>>101111186
>literally
Wow /a/ has been invaded by shit today. Can't wait till the kiddies go to bed.
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>>101111126
well okay, at least he didn't say that the characters had literally no personality or whatever

The way he used it, he wanted to show emphasize that all the characters really was this-and-that, and that it was "literally everything" and not just everything in a vague, broad manner.
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>>101111186
There was foreshadowing, but that guy was wrong about what it was.
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>>101110641
>with no proper foreshadowing
Are you fucking kidding me, if anything it was foreshadowed incredibly fucking heavily.
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>>101111116
These are the big problems in a show where giant super robots throw galaxies at one another.

I'm not being sarcastic
No, really I'm not
I am
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>>101110833
>watching anime
>hating fun this much
That's a direct contradiction. Do you shit over all anime you watch for the tiniest plot and character inconsistencies? You must think KlK is the worse anime of the decade.

TTGL was never a deep story. It never bothered with complicated themes. You like the first half more than the second half? That's fine, but don't shit over the second half just because it takes a different approach. The first half is a great coming of age story that is difficult to find any real flaws in. After the first half's ending they have no real enemy, so they do a time skip, where they find out what Lordgenome was foreshadowing. In this second half, THE CHARACTERS ARE ALL GROWN UP. The only real character development is Lordgenome, because the others already had theirs.

The second half's sole purpose was to have the most badass last 5 episodes of anime ever released while reaffirming the show's sole theme of the indominable human spirit, and I think Gainax accomplished that pretty well.

>>101111116
The antispirals were capable of creating a big bang, altering probability, moving up and down the time axis, and replacing the moon. Logic doesn't work in this show. Nia was simply yet another countermeasure created by the antispirals. While the foreshadowing in the final battle was pretty shitty, Nia repeatedly said that she was a product of the antispirals for the entire second half of the show.
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>>101111439
But that's wrong.
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>>101111471
See
>>101111424
You imbecile moron
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>>101111471
Yeah, the fact that the Anti-Spirals could take control over her body and mind didn't foreshadow anything, right?

Goddamnit, /a/..
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>>101111591
I can rape a chick but I can't make her have babies on command.
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>>101111591
But no, they didn't specifically spell it out for me!
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>>101111591
That's not foreshadowing. Foreshadowing is subtle and is only important in hindsight.
What you're talking about is just plot.
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>>101111273
Which she then turned off as evidence by her turning back appearance-wise, not being hivemind, and creating a fucking ganman out of spiral energy (that thing unique to spirals) to fight with and contribute to everyone energy to make STTGL.

No matter how you look at it, it's a huge plot point and poor justification to do an asspull "Oh so shocking!" ending that Imaishi is so fond of.

He's a complete hack.

>>101111285
They literally have no character development in the second half. Explain how Simon, Nia and Yoko are different at the end than at the beginning of the second half. Being dead isn't character development.
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>>101111621
I don't even
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>>101107057
Gunbuster had a happy ending.
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>>101111458
If someone wanted to say "The story is stupid but I like big robots" I'd say "Good for you, the animation was good and I'm glad you enjoyed it."

People here are defending the writing.
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>>101106563
Because he's just Simon the digger. Theres someone better suited to go through the tunnels he dug..
Apparently
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>>101111460
>Stop criticizing it!
>It's fun so you can excuse the shitty writing and inconsistencies!
>Ignore the fact that it harps on it's "deep" themes incesantly and that the implementation was awful!
And KlK is pure shit.

>Stop watching anime, you hate fun!
No, I just hate shit. Diebuster was fun, this isn't.
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>>101110846
Considering Lordgenome was the same spiral race as Simon, Simon outmatched him in Spiral Power, has shown that he's capable of creating pure spiral power out of willpower like Lordgenome did in pic related, and the fact that he has a spiral eye just like Lordgenome did all points to that he very possibly could live for thousands of years like the Spiral King if he wanted to.
>>101111186
11:30 seconds into the last episode. Lordgenome talks about how he'll gladly give up his body to defeat the anti-spirals and Nia agrees, then flickers. You'd have to be fucking blind not to notice.
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>>101111659
See
>>101111424
It was foreshadowed, only a fucking retard didn't see her death coming from a sea-mile away.
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>>101111659
Leave /a/.
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>>101111662
Beginning of the second half - Simon follows Kamina's philosophy to the core.
End of second half - Simon has adapted his world view to integrate Rossiu's beliefs too, so it becomes "move forward but don't be a fucking idiot about it."
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>>101111543
>One scene of her flashing during literally the last fight
>Use the same animation that they used when the antispirals were interrogating her
Well if that isn't proper foreshadowing I don't know what is!
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>>101106967
I was pretty indifferent. My favorite episode was the Helix King fight, which also represented the show's peak as far as I'm concerned. After the timeskip, it became less and less interesting.
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>>101111678
>Everyone you have ever known is dead and has been dead for thousands of years
>You'll never see your friends and family again, and even your language is dead
>But you're still alive and you saved everyone

No, that's not happy. It's not sad either. It's a mix of things, it's execution was perfect and that's what makes it good.
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>>101111719
And I'm just trying to say that if people find fault with a small part of the writing (the ending where Nia dies), maybe they should start by focusing on the fact that robots the size of galaxies powered by MANLY SPIRALS are also pretty impossible.

Ok, now I'm just trolling
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>>101111848
Lord genome: If the life of this TEMPORARY BODY will create a tomorrow for all spiral life, i will gladly give it.
Nia: Yes. I agree with you completely.
You would have to be a fucking idiot to not get what that plus her flashing means.
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>>101111591
>>101111631
>Antispirals can control her
>So it's only natural she dies when they die
I'm controlling my computer, if I die will it break?

The fact that everythign is based on DNA and they go out of the way to confirm she's genomes biological daughter is why it's fucking stupid.
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>>101111848
1. Again, listen to the dialogue throughout the second half (I can never return to being a Spiral, etc).
2. Not sure about that, but still, fucking context.
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>>101111794
Did I forget to point that out?
That guy was saying the "Nia is controlled by Anti-spirals" is foreshadowing, which it is not. That scene, however, is.
>>101111807
Make me fagmaster
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>>101111914
Don't forget that, according to Diebuster, everybody forgot it even happened until like 1 year before they ended back on earth
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>>101111848
Are you actually mentally deficient?
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>>101111901
>Helix King fight

Syfy pls
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>>101111901
>Helix King
Who the fuck is that again
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>>101111662
It's an asspull. TTGL's entire plot was full of cliche and asspulling, but they pulled off that cliche asspulling really fucking well. Just because the antispirals put the contingency gene into Lordgenome doesn't make her not a spiral. From the show's own words just after TTGL was spawned, she was only able to temporarily overcome the gene because of Simon's stupidly high spiral power that was never seen before. Nia should have died immediately after the final battle, but she managed to last a week to have her wedding (and plenty of sex with Simon, according to the creator in an interview).

>>101111787
The implementation is subjective. Most people on /a/ would probably say it's at least not shit. A lot would say it's amazing. I accept that the first half of the second cour was shit, but watching it made the last 5 episodes immeasurably more entertaining.
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>>101111719
I liked the story. You can give me 100 reasons why I shouldn't but the fact remains I do. Deal with it.
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>>101111901
>Helix King
u wot m8.
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>>101110089

He kinda looks like Doctor Doom in that cloak.
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>>101109742
What was the age difference there? He seemed way older. Fucking based Dayakka.
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>>101111793
>11:30 seconds into the last episode
>last episode
My God please take at least high school level reading classes before you pretend to know what foreshadowing is.

>>101111659
But anon, foreshaowing is either a show spoonfeeding you so hard you know exactly what happens, or a single line almost right before the fact that kind of makes it less of an asspull but not really.

It's definitely not words or actions or visual metaphors spread throughout the story that at first watch make you scratch your head wondering what exactly it could mean, and on second watch make you say "Oh, that's what they meant! It was being developed the whole time subtly."
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>>101112086
>because of Simon's stupidly high spiral power that was never seen before.
Which was also how boota ended up having so much spiral energy. And how even Viral could manifest a TT-mecha during the final fight.
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>>101112142
Y-you're trolling right? P-please say you're trolling me
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>>101111808
Give an example. You're literally just parroting the shit the show spoonfeeds you. He was never shown to be to irrational.
>But that first fight!
Where fighting was quite literally his only option as there was no way to stop the antispirals and everyone would have literally died.
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>>101112075
>>101112023
>>101112102

Eh, that's what the subs I downloaded had, or I've remembered incorrectly. My point still stands.
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>>101111957
Do you have any idea how foreshadowing works? Any at all? Please tell me how long after this scene did the event it "foreshadowed" happen?
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>>101112142
Foreshadowing is a warning or indication of a future event. Are you fucking retarded? It doesn't matter if it's 5 series or 5 minutes after the hint, it's still foreshadowing.
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>>101111914
Everyone they knew was already dead anyways. Noriko only had two friends and one was with her.
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>>101112255
Foreshadowing is a warning of a future event. Which it served as, or rather it solidified it. Because it had already been hinted at, multiple times.
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>>101106059
HOLY SHIT! He went blind in one eye?
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>>101112014
But anon, if Gunbuster was a properly foreshadowed ending with happy and sad elements to it, then that means we can't just bitch about people not knowing what foreshadowing means while saying the just want happy endings.

>>101112018
You don't have any idea how timing for foreshadowing works, do you?
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the best songs from the ost, tied with libera me from hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwjJbeVBTPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpeGZbshDf0
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This is why Getter Robot is literally perfect and the greatest story of all time. It is truly Go Nagai's magnum opus.
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>>101112142
Why did you basically give the definition of foreshadowing just to immediately say that definition is not foreshadowing?
Did I just react to bait?
Also, just because you didn't notice something that was pretty obvious doesn't mean others didn't notice it.
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>>101112315
That's a spiral eye. Due to his spiral power being green and the green light tinting him, it just looks like a blind eye.
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>>101110404
Fuck, and I only now just got around to reading that.
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>>101112086
>It's an asspull. TTGL's entire plot was full of cliche and asspulling
But the first half stayed within it's own ruleset and told a coherent story. The second half was asspulls for the sake of asspulls, contradictions and the worst attempt at having a developed theme I've ever seen.

>They had sex!
If a creator can tell that to the fans to shut them up about a retarded ending, both the creator and the fans are retarded.
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This was one of the best scenes in the show.
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The movie lessened Rossiu's actions a bit.

In the series he knows about the moon impact's full force and evacuates the city early, knowing everyone he leaves behind will die. In the movie, he doesn't know, thinking the people in the shelters are safe, and evacuates the whole city. He believed he saved everyone. He didn't, but he believed he did. He didn't have to suffer any burdens from making tough decisions. It weakened his character a bit to me.
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>>101112200
1. He was the Supreme Commander when he wasn't the right person for the job, but he didn't do anything about that.
2. Yes, a fight was necessary, but he could've handled it better to avoid damage. I'm not saying that Rossiu was completely right either, you know.
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>>101112193
>>101112261
>It doesn't matter if the execution and timing is shit!
Yes it does.
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I dont get the hype surrounding this show, I watched it years ago and found it just mediocre but I have come across people who thinks its 10/10 Masterpiece. Maybe its because I watched it in the dub, it was back when I first started watching anime and refused to watch sub.

I am reconsidering watching the movies or series in sub. Do you think its a good idea?
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>>101112572
Who are you quoting? Seriously
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>>101112433
>Why did you basically give the definition of foreshadowing
>>101112142
>foreshaowing is either a show spoonfeeding you so hard you know exactly what happens, or a single line almost right before the fact that kind of makes it less of an asspull
Ok, if you think that's what foreshadowing is I hope you continue to enjoy Imaishis high quality works in the future. I'm glad you've found a director that caters to your tastes and makes things your speed.
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>>101112591
Yes. Grab the BD releases.
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>>101112438
HOLY SHIT!
>tfw I don't even want to imagine anything related to a sequel due to today's QUALITY anime
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>>101112458
>>They had sex!
>If a creator can tell that to the fans to shut them up about a retarded ending, both the creator and the fans are retarded.

Jesus Christ you are an angry little guy aren't you? That was nothing more than an offhand comment I made, and you jump on the chance to just shit all over it. It had nothing to do with my main point.

And why wouldn't the creator add a little more easter egg info when specifically asked about it? It's not like the fans asking him that were raging. All they did was ask if they ever had sex, and he humored them.
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>>101106059
Honestly?

I'm legitimately surprised it didn't get an S3 or even a set of OVAs or a movie to cover the whole "mankind's delegation to the spiral races" bit that they were bleedingly obviously leading into at the end of S2.

Sales must have been bad or something, which doesn't make any sense.

>>101111914
>>101112014
>>101112350
I have friends whom I've introduced to legitimately good anime, who enjoy it, who don't "get" why Gunbuster is regarded as a classic example of a masterfully executed ending.

It's depressing sometimes.
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>>101112522
>1. He was the Supreme Commander when he wasn't the right person for the job, but he didn't do anything about that.
He was also a figure head to unite the people because he was the one who defeated their oppressor. His job was to create an air of strength and confidence, which he did.

>Yes, a fight was necessary, but he could've handled it better to avoid damage
He took actions to save people, you can't criticize how a fight against an unknown enemy played out as irrational when he literally did his best.
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>>101112661
Movies or series
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>>101112458
>This amount of asspain
Okay it's just funny now
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>>101112666
That's not even supposed to be a secret, anon. How did you not see that?
>>101112743
Both. Why would you ever think otherwise?
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>>101112591
I think it's better sub, but the dub is exceptional. Many (maybe not on /a/, but many) people believe they are roughly equal.

Either get the BD or don't skimp out on a high quality torrent. You want to see the animation at its best.
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>mfw GL was too deep for /a/
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>>101112743
Movies are probably better. They cut a lot of the superfluous shit.
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>>101112697
>It had nothing to do with my main point.
Which was
>It's fucking stupid, but it's supposed to be fucking stupid.
To which I pointed out, the first half was over the top but moved at a good pace, developed it's characters properly and was coherent. The speeches they gave perfectly matched the characters development and at no point did they start talking about themes that were improperly developed.

You sound pretty frustrated that someone wasn't as wowed by big drills and explosions as you were to the point of ignoring how bad the series was.
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>>101112591
The dub is pretty good, with the only iffy voice being pre-time skip Nia. And even then, her's wasn't that bad.
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>>101112736
I simultaneously like and loathe your friends.
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>>101111036
>No you idiot, I have no problem with a sad end, the execution was shit.
You realize that this was a children's show that was aired in the morning right? It had to be accessible to the little kids.
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>>101112792
Some people are just incredibly dumb.
Like a certain angered individual in this thread.
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>>101112736
At least you can get your friends to watch older stuff.
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>>101109579
Certainly better than anything Yoko got.
Fate hated her and she died a virgin.
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>>101112849
>The dub is pretty good
It really fucking isn't. It was laugheably bad.
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>>101112743
>>101112821
Most people like the movies better, but I liked the series more. The ending is what most people liked about the movies, but I kind of thought they fucked that up in the movies.
But to each their own.
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>>101112821
The 4 generals fight was way too compressed for my liking. Cutting a bunch of filler out of the first half of the show was good, but at the same time it cut out most of the character development and why people aligned with some characters over others.

They're a different experience, and I'd definitely recommend watching the TV series first.

But dat last fight in the movies, hot damn! Worth watching them for that alone.
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>>101112736
>who don't "get" why Gunbuster is regarded as a classic example of a masterfully executed ending.
Because pacing, buildup, and creating a world and mechanics which are used to develop the plot and characters (time dilation was perfectly explained and implemented) as well as to create a big ending is apparently less important than big drills and the show telling you "This is awesome and the themes are great, trust us!"
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>>101112849
I wasn't a fan of Kamina's dub voice. Not saying it was bad, but the Jap VA just blew it out of the part. Also, the English script is awkward at times.
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>>101112193
>>101112433
I wish high school kids would leave /a/
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>>101112756
>The first half of his post compares the series to itself to make a point I can't refute, better ignore it!
>U mad?!?
I shouldn't have expected more from you.
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>>101112954
>Also, the English script is awkward at times.

It's been a few years since I've rewatched it, care to explain how?
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>>101112849
>>101112784
People actually like hearing fucking Sasuke's voice with the awkward ass japanese?
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>>101112945
Please don't drag based Gunbuster into this shit..
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>>101112908
One of them is dutifully making his way through LoGH now. He's almost at the halfway point.

He used to be a Narutard, I feel like I've done him a favor. He occasionally asks why it took me so long to turn him from the dark side.

>>101112945
Sorry, it's been a long day. Which side of the argument are you on? Can't really tell. I think your'e agreeing with me. Apologies if I'm incorrect.
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>>101113011
I'm not even the guy you originally quoted, i just found your asspain to be funny.
Your points have been refuted though, but you choose to ignore the refutations or claim that it's not good enough.
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>>101113051
>bawww this one voice actor did a character in a bad anime
Get over it, faggot
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There are people right now on /a/ who don't think that TTGL is one of the best anime of all time.
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>>101112792
>Point out the themes the show was going for
>Point out how they did it
>Discuss why the execution was poor and call it bad
lol 2deep4u

Brilliant. The most well thought out of all defenses.

Are you this excited you finally understood a series that you feel the need to defend it to death? You're probably the same kind of retard who complains about airing shows because you don't know how to pick up on actual subtlety and plot development
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>>101112940
>e 4 generals fight was way too compressed for my liking. Cutting a bunch of filler out of the first half of the show was good, but at the same time it cut out most of the character development and why people aligned with some characters over others.
>They're a different experience, and I'd definitely recommend watching the TV series first.
If you read, he already saw the dub. Watching just the movie is acceptable in this case. There's not a whole lot of new ground to really cover and explore, so it's better.
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>>101112743
Watch the series for proper spacing and music placement. The movies crunch it down hard and have to shift music around to avoid sounding repetetive because they play the same song about 5 times in the last 3 episodes.

Watch (aka skip through until the good parts) the movies for alternate fights, especially Lagann-Hen.


>>101112837
>still frothing with rage
Again, the first and second half are clearly different. The first half is clearly a coming of age story filled with character development and growth. The two MCs start with nothing but a shitty undersized gunmen, and end up freeing the entire world.

The second half takes all of the developed characters and does nothing more than have a badass mecha fight that reaffirms the show's only theme (after the 2deep4u first few episodes, which I also dislike). If you want to get technical, then you could argue that evolution in TTGL's universe is exponential, which explains why the Antispirals are so worried after 1 million humans are born. This also explains why the second half gets very over the top very quickly, and why Simon becomes a lonely hobo to avoid the spiral nemesis.
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>>101112849
>>101112756
>>101112784
>>101112472

>Dubs
>It's okay that the plot was handled like shit because it was FUN


It's like I'm really on /v/
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>>101113118
The point is he sounds awful and Simon was way better in Japanese. If he was a side character or something that would have been fine.
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>>101112857
And? FMA was a shounen manga that was much better put together and told a story that involved a visual representation of the themes in the form of the characters main fighting ability.

Being aimed at a younger audience isn't an excuse to be bad.
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>>101113051
>People actually like hearing fucking Ichigo's voice with the awkward ass english?
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>>101113236
>FMA
Oh you're one of those guys. Nevermind everyone. Problem solved.
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>>101106059
How the fuck is that little rodent still alive when Simon looks like he's about to keel over?
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I watched the TV BD edition.

The most unsatisfying part was humans vs spirals. Spirals were propped up to be these invincible maniacs and they didn't even come close.

Also, yoko doesn't do much after the timeskip.

The after timeskip was weak compared to pre-timeskip. Still this was a very emotional show. It is a masterpiece, if you only consider the first half.
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>>101113146
Dude, why are you so mad?

The person posting that obviously wasn't participating seriously in this discussion.

Anyway, it's obvious right now you didn't enjoy the second part of GL and preferred the first part, for all the reasons you've mentioned. We understand you feel this way. Now can we please move on and post about anything other than

>THEMES
>PLOTHOLES
>NO FORESHADOWING

etc?

Thank you.
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>>101113096
Sorry, when Gainax makes a supermech series about a pair of same sex friends who combine their robots to fight super monsters for the sake of humanity, I expect better than TTGL.

>>101113099
Gunbuster and Diebuster are 2 of my all time favorites. TTGL was bad.
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>>101112954
I have to say I liked Kamina's dub voice more. I never viewed Kamina as a traditional 'mentor' role like the jap voice had with its tone. I viewed him more as a hotblooded moron that Simon looked up to that had moments where he could be serious, and the dub gave him a voice that fit that pretty well in my opinion.
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>>101113131


There are people right now on /a/ who do think that TTGL is one of the best anime of all time.
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>>101113278
He is right. The fights later in TTGL were poorly executed and the final matchup wasn't as great as it was foreshadowed to be.

I still think TTGL is a great show. Probably one of the top 20 anime ever made.
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>>101113103
>Your points have been refuted though
But they haven't, not at all. The closest thing to refuting has been "Stop criticizing it so much, it's not supposed to have a structured plot that makes sense!"
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>>101113146
Man I just read the OP and decided to post that. That's a whole lot of projecting you got going on there buddy
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haha, shemon!
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>>101113176
>The first half is clearly a coming of age story filled with character development and growth
And it did it well.

>does nothing more than have a badass mecha fight
But that's not the case. If it did just that I wouldn't care, but it clearly tried so hard to implement it's themes and tell a "mature" story. Hell there's magazine interview where Imaishi & co literally said "If you didn't like it, it was probably 2deep4u, trying watching it as an adult. Our drill metaphor was so clever!"
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>>101113278
>Hating on FMA at all
Oh I get it, you think FMA is entry level so it's bad, but TTGL is for real anime fans.

Glad to know who I'm dealing with.
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>>101113351
Its okay to hate fun anon. It isn't a good idea, but you can do it.
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>>101113351
I wouldn't say it's my GOAT, but it will always hold a special place in my heart.
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>>101113319
But I loved Gunbuster and Diebuster as well, they are some of my all time favorites as well.
Does this mean I can't enjoy TTGL? Because I kind of did. By no means was it as good as GB/DB, but it was fucking fun.
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>>101113316
>Can you stop pointing out why the second half is a mess compared to the first and just say how awesome it is for having giant robot fights!

When a series starts off great, I expect it to stay great the whole way through.
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>>101113351
I've rewatched it more than any other show, so that counts for something
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>>101113351
I hold the firm opinion that fun=/=good, and TTGL is my favorite fun anime.
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>>101113580
Enjoy it all you want. If you liked the hotblooded action and animation that's great, it was pretty well done.

If you think the writing and composition of TTGL has anything on GB, that's just wrong.
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>>101113599
Thank you for putting words in my mouth that weren't there to begin with.
I was just saying that this thread hasn't been all that enjoyable what with the huge amount of pure mad some people are spouting.

>>101113663
I actually agree with you completely.
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>>101113542
FMA a shit
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>>101113580
For me it's Getter Robo Armageddon > TTGL > Gunbuster

And I don't intend to slight Gunbuster by saying that.
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>>101107556
I have seen a LOT of anime, I mean a LOT (22 series) and this has to be the most epic thing I have ever seen!

Throwing galaxies as weapons? FUCK NEWTON! FUCK EINSTEIN FUCK THE LAWS OF PHYSICS! KICK REASON TO THE CURB AND DO THE IMPOSSIBLE!!!
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>>101113652
I can respect that opinion. Fun anime is fun, but I won't put too many fun anime in a 3x3.
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>>101113486
>Hell there's magazine interview where Imaishi & co literally said "If you didn't like it, it was probably 2deep4u, trying watching it as an adult. Our drill metaphor was so clever!"
If this is true, then that is pretty sad. After the transformation of Arc-Gurren Lagann and Rossiu getting rekt, I had the opinion that the show was saying "alright we tried being serious and that sucked, so fuck that and enjoy these mecha fights with manly speeches". From that very simple perspective, I loved the fuck out of it.

In my mind all TTGL was ever supposed to be was "humans are amazing because they are". After the first half's character development, the overly serious Rossiu arc, the finale was finally able to do what it wanted to all along (which was badass space battles foreshadowed in the first scene of the show).
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>>101113786
Fun is also different from bad, though. TTGL is great at being anime, and that's why I have it in my 3x3. There are deeper and better written anime, but this one is good at what it does.
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>>101107556
This scene still manages to warm my heart, even after almost seven years.
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>>101113728
Sorry if I put words in your mouth, you seem reasonable and I'm done arguing with people who are adament that fun makes everything else a show does great.

Both the posts you're responding to are mine.

BusterMachines4life.
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>>101106059
Did his pet become immortal too?

i mean....fuck man that ground mole was with him since childhood
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>>101113811
Enjoying your first day here?
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>>101113835
>After the first half's character development and the overly serious Rossiu arc, the finale was finally able to do what it wanted to all along

fixed
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>>101113921
>point out they are baiting with a copypasta
>get called new
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>>101113907
It's older than the anti-spirals.
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>>101113835
If that's true, it sounds like what every creator says after their work gets popular and it is pretty sad.

>>101113870
You seem like a reasonable person too.

Seems like saying that is something that doesn't belong on /a/ though.
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>>101112849
Fuck you Anon Starfire voice is great
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>>101113599
Just let it go man. also I don't really see any plotholes in that part. And what do you mean with no forshadowing? Even my mum knew everything in advance, from the moment Nia became the messenger.
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>>101113835
>If this is true, then that is pretty sad
It is. That's why I don't forgive the poor composition because of how fun the series is. I thought while watching it "Are these guys trying to be clever? Because the story has gone full retard since the time skip and everything outside of the robot fights is now annoying" as it turned out, that's exactly what happened. That's why I have a problem with the second half, they were confirmed to try to be deep and insightful when they should have just stuck to their guns and kept it simple.
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>>101113860
Well yeah, I have Nichijou in my 3x3 for the same reason, as it's made me laugh more than almost any other series. TTGL is by no means a bad series, I loved the first half and was content with, if not slightly disappointed by, the second half.

Who knows, I've never went back and rewatched TTGL, perhaps when I do I'll like it more.
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>>101113907
There was some bullshit about converting individual growth energy into species evolution energy, most of which was likely supplied by Simon and Lordgenome. Since he devolved back into mole form, you could argue that Boota had a lot of stockpiled spiral energy in him so that he could live forever.

But it's just a fucking molepig, so who cares.
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>See people hype this up for years
>Finally watch it
>It's boring shit where everything is solved by yelling
>Not even the action is good
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>>101114012
It was only the pre-time skip voice I sort of had an issue with. But even then, I didn't hate it.
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>>101113974
>Point out a person doesn't know what a joke is
>H-he was baiting
Not everyone who makes a joke is baiting. That was clearly a joke and anyone who got mad at it should leave.

>>101113998
>Seems like saying that is something that doesn't belong on /a/ though.
For the most part people are retarded, there's the occasional good thread with good discussion. That and the news updates are why I stay.
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>>101113974
You're supposed to let the copypasta alone or maybe laugh, not behave like you believe that's an actual post
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>>101114080
Why you ever believe in hype?
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>>101114080

>being a retarded scumbad

You are a bad person anon. I hope I will never meet you.
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>>101114034
Even though he was trying to be LOLdeep, I was under the impression that he was doing the exact opposite for the sole purpose of entertaining fight scenes. I like TTGL more from that perspective, but I'll keep that in mind.
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>>101114058
What always bothered me is why Boota never got huge like the rest of his race. Even worse after the second timeskip at the end
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>>101114080
>boring
>action is not good

You can hate on TTGL all you want and I wouldn't care, but these things are just plain wrong.
Almost every other thing said in this is a better argument for why the show is shit, but boring and bad at action it is not.
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>>101114256
*in this thread

>>101114130
Why are those threads so few and far between though..
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>>101114214
Fun little fact: those rock hand-face-foot robots were designed by Araki
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>>101114246
>this is what TTGL critics have been reduced to arguing about
But if he got huge then he wouldn't be able to enjoy Yoko's tits.
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>>101114232
I can't ignore things once I know them. If I could shut my brain off and watch TTGL, I might enjoy it more. But to be honest, I even found the fight scenes in the first half to be more creative whereas the second half just felt like "Bigger is better!"
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>>101114246
Simon was tapping his spiral energy.
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>>101114340
>attacking all points in space at all points in time
>attacking into the past and future simultaneously
It's such a shame that the best godbot only got one episode of action.
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>>101113663
>Gunbuster

I still don't get why people hyped this up so much. I watched it and it really didn't seem that good.

It felt pretty rushed in some areas, you had some character relationships just kinda.. happening, with not much build up. Noriko is crying pretty much every episode then somehow becomes a badass at the end. Action isn't even that good really. Noriko herself wasn't much of an interesting character to me. Like TTGL and other anime, she suffers from the super duper talented MC syndrome, but I'll let that pass because they at least did a "She was shit and trained" thing, although that little bit of training made her better than people training much longer than she was.

I'm not saying Gunbuster was bad, but I don't understand why everyone faps to it and claims it was some godly masterpiece.

>inb4 someone tries to say I'm just a TTGLfag and disregards my whole post
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>>101114320
>Why are those threads so few and far between though..
Because most of the time if you explain something people missed they get mad or ignore you and you can't discuss a show well at all. I enjoy learning about things I missed as no one ever catches everything every time they watch something. Some people actually complain about not being able to pick up on things and thank others for discussing and explaining them in threads, and as long as those people are around I won't leave.

I even managed to stop the shitposting in a Madoka movie 3 thread by explaining why people who watched it got mad and didn't understand certain parts.

You just need to be nice and the people you're talking to can't be upset that they didn't understand things.
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>>101112591
The hype for gurren is honestly more deserving of Gaogaigar,Mazinger,Gunbuster or getter robo, Those to me are the true embodiment of what Gurren is trying to convey
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>>101114398
Listen, there's something important about the first half's fights. One little detail that happened.

Lord Genome stepped out of his gunmen.
Walked down its side.
And punched Simon in the face.

The fact that people don't consider this the best moment in the entire series makes me sad. Because I'm fairly sure I came when I first saw it.
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>>101114490
Do you really want to know why people like it? I'd be happy to explain why we do if you'll actually read it and not shitpost about others opinions and complain about things you do or don't think actually happened.
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>>101114490
I agree with you except for the ending.
I found the show as a whole mediocre but I will never forget that ending.
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>>101113835
I'm pretty sure he meant that more in a way of, that some people couldn't really follow the plot anymore, because it got more ridiculous and hard to grasp by the minute, the more it wen't to the climax. Not in a way of actual plot, that was easy, but what was happening on screen.

If not, fuck him! I'm sure then, he thinks the same about Kill la Kill and I take back that it doesn't have anything deeper in it than one simple message, because then it's really full of pretentious 2deep4u bullshit.
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>>101106059
I know, right? And Rossiu becomes president of the fucking universe.
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>>101114535
Well, since you seem like a person with good taste, how was the last Madoka movie? I enjoyed the series quite a bit but not as much as /a/ or some people who worship it. Still haven't gotten myself spoilt on the ending so would like to know if it's decent.
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>>101114591
And then Simon launched out of Lagann, flying punched the Anti-Spiral in the face, then had a fistfight with some of the most brutal impacts I can remember in an anime fight.
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>>101114591
>Simon get's thrown like a baseball
>Kamina fights Viral in the tall grass
>The first Gattai
>The first Giga Drill Breaker
>Simons "I'm not Kamina" speech
>Underwater fight
>Nia decoy
>Genome fucking rips a ganman apart with his hands
>Simone uses the core drill in a last ditch effort to defeat him
First half was way better.
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>>101114701
>>101114697
That was some good shit. I'm going to go find that scene and watch it again, I don't need anything else.
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So do you prefer bitch Rossiu getting punched in the face for being an asshole in TV or right Rossiu getting slapped in the movie
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>>101114381
>this is what TTGL critics have been reduced to arguing about
nope, I even like love parts equally.
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>>101114628
No he literally talks about the drill metaphor and how the shows has deep themes of moving on and how as an adult you'll appreciate it more than a child.

I think his directing style is horrible. If he was just an animator and didn't touch the script I'd enjoy it a lot more.
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>>101114381
>implying one complaint comes from a whole group
Goddammit anon, go to sleep
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This show would be good if it wasn't poorly written and the action was more than asspulls.
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>>101114701
>Simon meets Kamina again in episode 26
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>>101106059
should've stopped when kamiya died and just end it there
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>>101114461
While Boota was tapping Yoko's tits. A good deal.
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>>101114490
>Action isn't even that good really.
If you're saying this with respect to Gunbuster in a TTGL thread, then people are going to think you're just a TTGLfag. Gunbuster isn't an action show, not at all.
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>>101114834
Keep trying champ, you're doing a good job of repeating everything the other haters said in this thread already!
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I think the best thing about this show is its OST. That is the one part that cannot be criticized because it is the closest thing to perfection that an anime OST can achieve.
>Happily Ever After
>Sorairo Days
>Libera Me from Hell
>Rap Is a Man's Soul Right?
>Is It Okay Just to Get Fired Up?

>>101114591
To be fair he did roughly the same thing in Lagann-Hen.
>steps out naked, walking on a fucking galaxy
>spawns Lazengann - manifesting every single screw and bit of metal - out of nothing
>becomes an actual drill and dies

And in Lagann-Hen, the AS and Simon have a fist fight.

>>101114799
>>101114821
Sarcasm.
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>>101114701
I always expected TTGL to be about desert fights and nothing more. It was pretty cool like that.
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>>101114915
Thanks.
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>>101114936
You don't know how to write sarcasm then.
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>>101113295
Anti-Spirals, you mean

Also Yoko never did anything, she's a woman you know
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>>101114936
Seems to me all the best moments involve Genome. Clearly he needs his own show.
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>>101107076
>>101111793
he'll live forever without his waifu ;_;
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>>101106059
You mean that show about that whinny kid where the first half is about some dude screaming at him and the second cool explosions.

It was alright but the screaming was repetitive. Loved the explosions though.

Also yea I didn't get the why of the ending. Lets kill his wife and make him a vagrant cause brown capes are kewl.
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>>101110641
>No character development
Simon is the only character in the series to show some character development, you think that Kamina dead was not enough for him to value life like he did and sow how much he mature over the years? you think Kamina dead din't hunt him down for years and change him as a person?
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>>101115072
Nia dying wasn't any sadder than, like, every other person who loses a loved one, like in every war ever.
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>>101115008
With the reaction pic, the fact that we were having a multipost argument on the size of Boota being a significant plothole, and mentioning Yoko's tits, I thought it was pretty obvious.

>>101115067
They did a short about his story, but I agree that a dedicated Genome prequel would be far better than trying to continue the story. But the prequel would probably be too repetetive and unoriginal.
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>>101115097
he became an exact copy.
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>>101114668
Spoiler free answer:
First, the production values are great. You'll get to see the art in high quality, a great OST and some fantastic fights. You'll also get to see all the girls working together.

As for the plot, it has all of the dark stuff the series is known for, but since we've already seen it, it doesn't hit as hard or shock you. Nothing will top episode 10 of the show.

The reason people don't like it is because of how the end goes. The movie starts and clearly moves in one direction, and that's to just give the girls some closure and wrap things up. About 2/3 through things just start to "feel" off with the pacing and developments and that's because Shinbo apparently convinced Uro to change the ending to allow for more movies or TV series to be made. I didn't know this while watching, just that it felt off while I was seeing it. After hearing what happened with production it made sense. The ending itself is explained fine, there's just a reason it doesn't sit well with people (I can link the thread where I explained it more, but it has spoilers).

I liked it, but would have preferred the intended ending. Now we have to wait for the next iteration to come out.

I can't say any more for spoilers sake.
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>>101114900
I'm not him, but GB fires me up way more than TTGL ever will.
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>>101115097
>Simon
>Viral
>Rossiu
These all had character development, and uncoincidentally they were all the most vital to the plot. Yoko too to a lesser extent. And flashbacks revealed that Kamina was a little more complex than just a retard with guts. Even Lordgenome eventually.

The only issue I have with character development is that Gimmy was given no focus for the entire show, and Simon ends up giving this little shit the godbot. I wish they gave him more attention.
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>>101110552
Isn't he effectively immortal like Genome now?
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>>101115323
Good for you?
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>>101114490
>>101114607
So do you want the long answer or not?

I just finished writing about Madoka so I can explain it to you now if you still care.
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>>101115254
Thank you very much, I'll check it out.
Though I do hate it so when creators are forced to change endings because MONEY.
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>>101115372
We don't know if Lordgenome's immortality was a choice or an unavoidable effect of becoming that powerful. If it's a choice, then Simon can die whenever he wishes. If it isn't, then he's basically going to be planting flowers over earth for eternity.
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>>101115177
An original prequel wouldn't fit the overarcing spiral theme anyway and it's not like you want to see him get his head smashed in and revert to the necessary evil he becomes there after.

Alteast we got a few scenes of him being an actual spiral knight in the beginning of the first move.
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>>101115503
Do you want the archive link or do you want to go in spoiler free? It's tough to give any sort of explanation without touching on specific plot points, that's really the best I can do now.
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>>101115669
Nah, I'll watch it spoiler free.
You gave an excellent spoiler-free review of what I should expect, thanks.
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>>101115753
Ok, enjoy. Just get ready to be a little miffed at the end.
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>>101115814
It can go either way though. I for one thought the ending was perfect
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>>101115949
Eh,

Anon who hasn't watched it yet, DO NOT look at this.

the entire movie was set up to give them closure and give us some action and fanservice. Homura was liked as a character because she was a rock. 10 seconds from the reunion she suddenly says "fuck it" and changes the whole world because they need to continue the series. There's nowhere left to take the characters, there's no more big twists to be done because they already dropped the "suffering" bomb on us and just showed that with enough emotion anyone can change the universe on a whim. It just deflates any balloon they try to inflate. They managed to tell a nice little story, show us some cool fights and make every character likable. There's just nowhere left to go (yes I know it will continue, but it won't have the same impact) and I would have preferred it ended as Uro originally wanted.
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>>101116207
Wow spoilers bro
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>>101111036
No you fucking idiot.
Rossius village was about survival at all costs and the totalitarian rule despite personal ties needed to enforce it. Hence culling the population by sending out newborns. It was so against radical thoughts like "fighting" against the anti spirals.

God damn some people just plug their ears and say the stupidest shit.
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>>101116672
Hah


>>101116703
>God damn some people just plug their ears and say the stupidest shit.
Yes, you're doing it right now as a way to rationalize why things that shouldn't have happened did happen.
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>>101113907

>that ground mole was with him since childhood

he has been around for way before that
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>>101116207
I hate how Iwakami and Shinbo put Gen in a corner so to speak and told him to write his way out of it.
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>>101116895
>Accuses someone of baseless rationalizing
>Provides no evidence to support their view
You really are the worst sort of person.
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He died a homeless hermit who brought about the destruction of humanity and the universe.

Your fanfiction about them finding a solution isn't canon. The Spiral Nemesis is.
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>>101117151
>I'm going to make as many baseless claims as I can in one sentence
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>>101117232
>Spiral Nemesis
>Baseless

Spiral Internet Defense Force in all its glory.
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>>101117286
Nigga he prevented the spiral nemesis by "retiring"
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>>101117344
And that's going to stop the billions of others from abusing spiral energy now that no one is around to keep the universe safe?
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>>101116970
Like I said, I liked what it was originally going for.

>>101117083
No, you're an idiot who misinterpreted a show because you don't want to actually watch it and realize the plot is stupid.
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>>101107556
Eh, E Card was more hype.
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>>101117408
If a spiral person gets uber powerful Simon (presuming immortality like lordgenome) would just give him a good smacking
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>>101117151
I understand your bait, but I'm sure there's a moron out there lurking that thinks this for real so I'll explain.

Spiral Nemesis is what occurs when a spiral being becomes too powerful. Their body becomes a galaxy, that galaxy gives birth to as many galaxies as there are lifeforms, the galaxies each eachother, then it creates a black hole that consumes everything.

Simon is the strongest spiral being living, and at the end of Gurren Lagann he stopped and passed it on to the next person for that very reason. Had he kept going he would have become the Spiral Nemesis threat, however since he backed down and is now staying low-key, the threat is averted until someone reaches his level of power and doesn't stop.
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>>101117408
Well anon, it's not like they continued advancing technology and ever explored the whole freaking universe using multiple Gurren Laganns. That would play right into Genomes warnings about the human race evolving too fast and would mean they're ignoring the reason Simon became a hobo in the first place.
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>>101117408
>>101117496
Also yes, exactly what >>101117493 said. If someone were to get to that point and didn't stop, someone like Simon would step up to take them down or you'd see a parallel of the Prologue, where all the spiral races would turn against the person who was considered a Spiral Nemesis threat.
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>>101117496
So Simon isn't a special snowflake?
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>>101117631
you're a special cookie cutie
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>>101117631
Not really. Before him was the Spiral King, who was shown to be extremely powerful before Simon overtook him. I wouldn't be surprised if in the future Gimi became strong enough to be somewhat compared to Simon or the Spiral King. Anyone can become as powerful as Simon was, it just takes someone who never gives up and has the willpower to take what they want with their own hands. Oh, and they have to be a spiral race.
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>>101117418
>No, you're an idiot who misinterpreted a show because you don't want to actually watch it and realize the plot is stupid.

>Wah, stop liking things I dont like

I see your point, you have soundly disproved my original postulate and provided clear evidence supporting your take on events.
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>>101114167
>post bait pic
>believe it's an actual post
did you read what you just wrote?
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>>101117877
Your sarcasm is neither witty nor charming. I suggest you drop the greentext as well.
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>>101113974
donmai anon i understood your point.
they prolly didn't even recognize the bait pic nor know the point of it.
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>>101118042
>implying your opinion has any value
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Jesus christ that guy was mad lol
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>>101117408
Shit nigga why is the spiral nemesis gonna happen anyway

Explain THAT
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>>101118236
>Implying that's me
>Implying you aren't just such an idiot any passerby can tell
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>>101119157
>lol
Leave and don't ever come back.
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WHAT THE SHIT
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finally got around to watching Death Note last week.
glad that's over with.
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>>101119744
Sorry, I can delete my post and try again.
What would you prefer? lel? kek? top lel? top kek? the lellest? most kek? Haha :)? lul? lil? *chuckles internally*? [laughing intensifies]? my sides?
I'm not sure which meme we use nowadays for laughter lol
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>>101119747
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>>101119872
>>101119157
Averagre TTGLfag.
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>>101120101
You didn't answer my question ;_;
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What if none of that shit actually happened?

Some time after Nia turned anti-spiral, the entire human race slipped into the multi-verse dream state and never got out.

Vagrant hobo Simon is still locked in a dream at the very end. It's how he had plot-armor and beat the anti-spirals despite their seemingly unlimited power.
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>>101120155
huehuehue is safest for most situations
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It's time FOR THE CHART

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaJOn74_ui0
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>>101120212
Thanks m8y, hadn't even thought of that one. You don't see it much anymore since kek got big last year
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>>101120357
>>101120155
>>101119872
>kek, lol, lul, *actions*
Holy shit go back to whatever shithole board or site you crawled out of.
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>>101120467
Jesus christ that guy was mad, huehuehue
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>>101120101
Average Nichishiteater is more accurate.
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WHAT
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>>101120555
Back the fuck up. TTGL wasn't that good and has one of the worst fanbases of all time, but I know you did not just call Nichijou shit.
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>>101120555
>calling nichijou shit
Lelouche you forgot your trip.
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>>101120711
Lelouch doesn't like Nichijou?

Godfuckingdamnit how does that guys shit taste know no bounds?
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>>101120711
Not everybody who disagrees with you is the same person. Especially when they're right.
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>>101120322
That actually really puts things in perspective.
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>>101113761
>(22 series)
I'm dying
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>>101120322
You never really know until you've had every other mech you've ever loved overshadowed by it..
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>>101121005
Don't laugh, there are people who think 60 series actually makes them an authority on anime.
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>>101120322
I never get tired of this.
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>>101113290
By being constantly in the cockpit he absorved great quantities of Spiral Energy, it's explained somewhere I think.
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>King of the World
>Died a Virgin
>Died a Virgin
>Wife Explodes
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>>101107076
>>101107382
Wait, did people seriously not understand that? That.. that was the whole reason for the beginning of episode 1.
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>>101121553
By the time I got to that part I forgot the beginning of episode 1 even happened.
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What is the spiral nemesis?
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>>101116962
WUT
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>>101121814
When the spiral species become powerful enough they become galaxies themselves. These pseudo galaxies then collapse in on themselves and create a super black hole (the spiral nemesis) which devours everything
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>>101106059
yeah, that ending was stupid. he should have tapped dat yoko
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>>101121910
That's not how things work.

What is the spiral nemesis a metaphor for?
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>>101121910
When was it ever stated to be this?
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>>101121978
Holy shit man did you not watch the series? The Anti Spiral explained that
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>>101121978
Are you shitting me? There's a whole section that covers this in the episodes. It's like fucking impossible to miss
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>>101121659
what was the beginning of episode one? It's been a few years since I watched this.
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>>101121978
Here you go idiot. From the wiki, and exactly like I said:

" If enough Spiral Energy was generated, all life forms in the universe would begin spontaneously evolving into full-sized galaxies. The sudden imbalance of mass in the universe would lead to these mega-galaxies devouring each other, forming a black hole which would consume the universe. "
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>>101106059
>muh first gainax ending
Now watch Gunbuster.
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>>101121975
The destructive nature of capitalism
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>>101112023
Is that show still good? I enjoyed the pilot but haven't gotten around to the rest yet.
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>>101106059
I really loved the ending. I think it fit the ending well, and it was a great way to end Simon's development.

>>101107076
Oooooh, didn't know this. Picked up.
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>>101122033
>>101122052
Movie or series? Haven't seen it in years, don't care to watch it again.

My God you're all butthurt over nothing.

>>101122105
>" If enough Spiral Energy was generated, all life forms in the universe would begin spontaneously evolving into full-sized galaxies. The sudden imbalance of mass in the universe would lead to these mega-galaxies devouring each other, forming a black hole which would consume the universe. "
Haha my God that's stupid.
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>>101122033
It's a metaphor for trying to read too much into a show
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>>101121975
Galaxies also can't be thrown as motherfucking ninja stars but that didn't stop the show from having giant robots throwing glaxies like ninja stars.
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>>101122190
Have you ever tried throwing galaxies as ninja stars?
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>>101122190
Son you don't lift weights do you
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>>101122110
This doesn't even constitute as a Gaianax ending.

It was so bittersweet and happy. It didn't troll anyone.
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>>101119691
>know his opinion is worthless
>gives another one
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>>101122161
*it fit the show well
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>>101119691
>>101122297
Who are you guys quoting?
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>>101122281
>It didn't troll anyone.
Wow
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>>101122281
But that's what a Gainax ending is. How many Gainax endings can you think of that were shitty troll endings (not counting Eva TV as they were just waiting for money for EoE). The shitty ones are Imaishi endings. The good ones are Gainax endings.
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>>101121396
It was actually because he hung on to kamina's cock that whole 1 episode.
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>>101122377
Gurren Lagann was a good ending. Gurren Lagann was an Imaishi ending.
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Kamina's glasses look good on anything.
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so did shee mon ever get dat poon

Or he a spiral wizard forever?
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>>101122791
Simon's are gay as fuck
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>>101122791
>Kamina's glasses
I am ashamed for this generation when those kinds of glasses are referred to unironically as "kamina glasses".
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>>101122832
Word of God says they fucked

take that how you will
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>>101122870
Well what are they smart guy hmm?
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>>101122901
>He gets pregnant and has little spiral babies
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>>101122845
Simon's from the last bit of the series were pretty awesome though.
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>>101122901
When did they do the deed?

B-Before the t-timeskip?
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>>101122952
No they're gay as fuck
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>>101122626
But it was a mess of an ending that literally told the audience "if you don't like this then you don't like mature things like moving on!"

No it wasn't well done or built up, if you were here for the live airing you wouldn't even pretend anybody saw that shit coming.
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>>101122933
Sunglasses
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>>101122975
Apparently she stuck around for about a week after the defeat of the Antispiral
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>>101121972

But if you kiss Yoko you die. Why would Simon want to do that?

Yoko knew this too and chose to live a life alone like Simon did.
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Here lies Kamina, he never scored
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Nia was the worst thing that happened to TTGL.
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>>101123161
He probably fucked a dozen underground babes
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>>101123214
GuaranteedReplies.rtf
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>>101121972
I thought all the girls were shit in that show but still
Fangs > Yoko > Nia
Nia is literately the ruination of that fucking show.
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>>101121120
That's about where I am I think, maybe, I dunno. I mostly read Manga because I'm a quick read and can plow through the entire plot in a fraction of the time, so my stats are fucked up

Not to mention I don't remember most of the shit I watched or read

That said, I am king weeb of everyone I know, so it just depends on context
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>>101123495
Ok. Let me give you context.

Someone thought that they could talk about anime because they had a good idea of every genre and style the medium has to offer because they watched 60 shows. 60 shows, even 60 great shows isn't enough to be familiar with the medium.

I remember when anything less than 200 would get you laughed at and told to fuck off and watch more anime.

Now any dipshit who's seen 4 shows talks like their opinion means shit and no one tells them to leave.
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>>101123610
60 shows is enough to definitively state that Sturgeon's Law is in full force on anime though

Most anime I enjoy I can't recommend to anyone because they're only enjoyable because of tropes I enjoy, rather than stand alone good

Like Kill la Kill
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>>101123325
Who dat slut on da left
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>>101123737
60 shows isn't enough to know anything. I could give you 60 great shows and make you think anime is some obscure artform for adults only that's 3deep5u.

KlK plays on tropes horribly and is a mess of an anime no matter how you look at it.
>It's fun!
No it's not, it's stupid.
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>>101123809
Do you know where you are?
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>>101112133
interestingly Doom has also fought godlike massive beings, discarded his identity and lived among humans as a homeless wanderer before.

in fact this entire story is so fucking close to what happened to simon's it's ridiculous
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>>101123737
This is the bait.
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>>101123895
I didn't think I was at the brothel
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>>101123809
>HUR HUR Yoko is a slut
Do you faggots still delude yourselves into thinking that's true? I but you whine that she has the bullshit kiss of death too.

I don't even like the bitch and I think you're a pathetic faggot.
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So murricans can't take that their hardworking hero is rewarded for his efforts by living happily as a lone Spiral Knight ermit who found illumination ?

Welp, nothing new to see here.
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>>101123866
>60 great shows
I don't even know how many shows you must have had to watch to find that many.
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>>101124050
Shouldn't take more than 60 if you're not an idiot.
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>>101124156
Nah it'll take at least 75 or so if you don't just watch whatever other people recommend.
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>>101106059
The ending was fine; nice and humble. Simon was just Simon; no one else. His desires were that of his friends'. He was fine with being a simple person, the digger that he was, and he returned to that.

>>101106595
IIRC, he didn't even have the desire to get to the surface and fight to stay there; that was Kamina's goal.

>>101113486
You got any links to that interview, anon? I am genuinely interested.



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