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Dat Heaven's Feel when.

http://otakomu.jp/archives/48756.html
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Confirmed starting in july.
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>>101074469
Fate/stay night remake confirmed by Ufotable for Autum 2014
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http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-21532.html

Start in Fall season. Also, it seems they're using new original story (mixing routes?)

And, finally Fate/Hollow Ataraxia for Vita announced. I hope it's full voice
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WHAT ROUTE IS IT?
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>原作では描かれなかった新事実をこのアニメで
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>>101074775
>it seems they're using new original story (mixing routes?)
Massive disappointment.
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>>101074469

God Damn it
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YES
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>>101074469

2 days until this information can be confirmed or not remember.
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>>101074791
None of them.

Hahaha
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Director: Takahiro Miura
Character Design: Sudo Tomonori, Akira Tabata, Atsushi Ikariya

Not sure about charadesign
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>>101074835
As long as it has Saber and Shirou loving eachother in eternal paradise, everything else isn't important. Please based ufotable
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>士郎や凛、セイバーの衣装はリニューアル
>セイバーにあの白いブラウスと紺スカートプラスして上に上着
>士郎と凛は今風の新私服に
>大河も横縞は残っているが普通の女性に

If I rikaichan'd through this correctly, then Shirou, Rin, and Saber are getting updated outfit designs.

Source is yaraon: http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-21532.html
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>>101074835
>>101074816

>>101074775
God
Fucking
Damnit
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When you think about it, there's no way they would make HF a tv series when Saber get less screen time and killed. Maybe a movie like UBW someday, with all the 3D animal sex scenes included
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>>101074775
>it seems they're using new original story (mixing routes?)
>Fate Stay Unlimited Blade Heaven's Feel
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>starts in Fall
>Director: Takahiro Miura
>new things that weren't in the VN will be in the anime
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>Illya route
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>Half the scripts are apparently finished, and most are already storyboarded. Voice recording started last Fall, and several eps are done.
Cool.
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>>101074966
>seriously thinking it won't be another saber route
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>same director as the worst Kara no Kyoukai movie

lol
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>>101074990
A man can dream.
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>>101074966

You mean another route where Illya dies right?
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>>101074927
Fuck you.
this means we're never going to see Sparks Liner High animated
Unless it's like a dream sequence
Then again, they probably wouldn't even bother taking a risk.
I'm so fucking anally anguished right now
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>>101074469

I'm still expecting Alter Saber to show up
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>>101075060
You already had Prisma.
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It's not necessarily an original route. ufotable might just be adding stuff a la Rin's Adventure
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>>101075009
Takahiro MIURA
三浦 貴博

Fate/Zero (TV) : Storyboard (OP), Unit Director (OP), Key Animation (eps 8-9), Storyboard Cleanup (ep 8)
Fate/Zero (TV 2) : Storyboard (ep 19), Episode Director (eps 15, 19), Key Animation (ep 19), Layout Animation Director (ep 19)
(The) Garden of Sinners (movie series) : Director (ep 6), Key Animation (eps 1-2)
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I am disgusted. Rather than finishing the story with the best and most fulfilling route and keep some level of integrity, they're going to go for more Saber pandering and pointless spinoffs. This franchise should just fucking die already.
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>>101075055
>Fate
>Servant getting a good ending

please Saber is going Suffer as always

>>101075075

The black grail will still have a major foucs anon, Saber getting absorbed would add to the Suffering Wheel.
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If it's staring in fall, that might mean that we will get 2wei in summer as a warm up.
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>>101075087
>Rin's Adventure
Yeah because that was totally fucking awesome and well-received by everyone who didn't have Rin's dick up their ass
That episode fucking sucked
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Shame ufotable has stopped producing original anime.

I was looking forward to Girls Work but looks like ufotable just wants to be known as a Fate studio instead.

Well, at least this spares other manga or novels from getting ufotable's Gyo treatment if all they do is focus on animating Fate.
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>>101074775
I don't mind, it's not like the story in F/SN is great in the first place, not to mention they could come up with something that feels like a sequel to F/Z.
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>>101075090
The Japs are shitting themselves that it's Miura doing it.

KnK 6 was pretty bad.
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I really hope it's not mixed. I would rather Deen have kept it if Ufotable having it means no HF ever.
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ITT: people who can't read Japanese.
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>>101075131
>please Saber is going Suffer as always
Nasu created an entirely new final ending just so that Saber got the best ending. She literally got to live with Shirou forever in faerie paradise.
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>>101075136
I like Rin's Adventure, deal with it.
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>>101075175
Some moonreader, please help our sorry asses.
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>>101074921
Character Design: Sudou Tomonori, Hisayuki Tabata, Atsushi Ikariya
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>>101075175
Well, yeah. If we've got something wrong, then I'm sure we'd all appreciate any corrections.
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>>101075149
Who the fuck cares about Gyo?
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>>101075195
>>101075208

see >>101075087

You have to wait 2 more days until a proper confirmation if it a new route.
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>>101075149
They're the Tales/Type-Moon/God Eater cafe

Now shut up and enjoy your tea
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>>101075149
Yeah, I'd like to see more stuff like Majocco over more Type/Moon.
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Illya route confirmed?
Please? ;_;
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>>101075194
There's bound to be people with shit taste in any medium.
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>>101075260
>>101074990
>>101075022
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>>101075233
Obviously. That's not gonna stop people from jumping to conclusions or hoping for their dream route, though.
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>>101074990

It's always a Saber route.

IT'S ALWAYS A FUCKING SABER ROUTE.

EVEN WHEN THE GAME IS SET IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT TIMELINE, ON THE GODDAMNED MOON, IT'S A FUCKING SABER ROUTE.

EVERY

SINGLE

TIME
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>>101074937

You did, they are getting some new additions to the wardrobe, Rin appears to be getting some blue and white clothing for some reason
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>>101075312
>FZ a saber route
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>>101075312
Hasn't Nasu always mentioned that he wasn't exactly satisfied with how Saber was portrayed in her route. Like "why the fuck would King Arthur fall in love with a kid" kinda shit? Wouldn't this be a chance to correct that?
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>>101075298

Of course, but i feel obligated to point it out at least once in the thread.
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>>101075350
Didn't Saber get her casual outfit from Rin?

Would make sense why she would have that particular clothing
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>>101075359
>that feel when you'll never play as Iri going for the Saberdick
It hurts anon.
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>>101075350
>Rin appears to be getting some blue and white clothing for some reason
The reason's name is Kotomine.
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>>101074469
Mind of steel route confirmed.
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>>101075193
Nasu didn't create anything.

King Arthur, even in his own myth, never gets to die for real.

He got fatally injured but his heart never gets a chance to stop beating before Morgan Le Fay and her fairy sisters show up and carry him away to Avalon and he is in some suspended animation state/sleep.

And Saber's stay in Avalon is only temporary.

In King Arthur's legend, he will be back once the UK is on the brink of destruction or dissolution and will reign as King of the Isles once more and lead the UK to a new age of glory.

This means Saber will leave Avalon once World War 3 starts and UK is about to get fucked.

Saber will not stay in Avalon forever.

Her destiny is to be King once more in the human world.

Even the real myth supports such a prophecy.

And speaking of prophecies. Francis Drake will also return from the dead should Britain be on the brink of collapse or despair.

Him and his ship will emerge from the seas to defend Britain's interests once more.

And in real life, during World War 2, Brits swore they heard Francis Drake's ship firing cannon balls in the distance.

So yeah, Nasu didn't really create shit and Nasu never says anything about Saber staying in Avalon forever. He does mention the prophecy of Saber, though.
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>>101075394
>>101075455
Except it is not.

Luvia's favorite colored clothing to wear is blue and white.

This means Luvia must be forcing Rin to work as her maid once more.
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>>101075478
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Heaven's Feel is the only route worth playing. They should base the whole show on this part with adding some informations from other routes.
If they want to connect it with Fate Zero then Saber route is pretty much unnecessary.
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>>101075545
>there are people who don't like UBW
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>>101074469
>>101074775

>Also, it seems they're using new original story (mixing routes?)

What if this is the route where Shirou becomes Archer?
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>>101075587
UBW is pretty overrated.
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>>101075587
It's boring.
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Continuing on from >>101075233
According to >>101074937

Shirou, Rin and Saber new clothes

Saber will be getting a "White blouse with a navy blue skirt and a Jacket/Coat of some form."

Shirou and Rin also have some "Modern-style" clothing now

Taiga Fujimura Stripes on her clothing are going to still remain

Best i can do for you guys at this time of the night, enjoy
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Everyone hold the fuck up.

It's clearly going to be Sensei's corner with new episodes.
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I can't help but think that it'll be a Sakura route.

I figure they'll want to cover the important parts of all three routes and Sakura is the only one of the three heroines where romance is integral to her character arc.
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>>101075478
Jesus christ settle down you retard. I was saying he wrote (in other words CREATED) and entirely new ending for Realta Nua where Saber got a perfect ending with Shirou. I know it's based on the already existing myth that King Arthur sleeps in Avalon till he's needed.
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>mfw Ilya route animated
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>>101075607
That would mean an entirely different Archer servant and Shirou not learning his real abilities during the war, which in this case would be the entire story. Not happening.
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>>101075647
>implying they will actually animate the route where seiba becomes dark seiba and a useless side character
The nipnongs love Seiba, no chance it is happening.
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>yfw Hrem ending.
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>>101075647
>Sakura is the only one of the three heroines where romance is integral to her character arc.
How bout you reread Fate again. Saber's character arc without the romance would be just as butchered as Sakura without hers.
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>>101075701
Dark Seiba > Lily Seiba > Umu seiba > Mysterious Herioine X > Rest
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>>101075701
Why must elevens ruin everything.
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>>101075732
>Not having shitty Sakukra romance
>Bad

Literally worse than Hitler etc.
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Havens Feel or nothing.

Who gives a shit about Saber? Pretty much every big reveal from her route was covered in Fate/Zero.

UBW - UBW is more like a side story, really. It's focused on Shirou and Archer, not the main plot.

HF - it's obviously the most important route.
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>>101075761
>implying Hitler was bad
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>>101075761
Shirou and Sakura are so cute, though.
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HF with saber as the heroine more like it.
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>>101075732
Sakura is one of the least popular Type-moon character not only in moonland. Everywhere else she is known with a joke name like wormslut and educated prostitute.
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>>101074469
>Heaven's Feel

Hopefully never.
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>>101075805
cute like at the beging of a NTR manga
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>>101075819
Maybe. Still the romance between her and Shirou was cringeworthy.
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>>101075478
>Francis Drake will also return from the dead should Britain be on the brink of collapse or despair.
>Him and his ship
>HIM
>HIS ship

I'm sorry, what?
Also, Best Rider after Zero Rider
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>>101075844
No, cute like a pair of people who've known each other for a while and really love each other and get along very well.
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I don't mind Saber or Shirou as characters, but I can't be the only one who thinks they have no chemistry can I?

Their relationship always felt awkwardly handled to me compared to Shirou and Rin or Sakura.
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>>101075918
I think they have a decent amount of chemistry, but that their relationship in Fate was not especially well-handled.
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>>101075819
Could work, but only if the Saber in question is Saber Alter.
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>>101075918

Nasu admitted that was because he didn't know how to properly write their romance
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>>101075918
No you're not alone.
For me, Shirou x Saber is master-servant relationship.
Shirou x Rin is best bros relationship.
Now Shirou x Sakura is romantic relationship.

I'm an Archer x Rin fag.
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>>101075956

No complaints about Saber switching from alter to normal whenever she wants
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>>101075918
They have chemistry...in Heaven's Feel.
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I'm fine if ufotable's new FSN proves to be an 'original' route pulling together elements from the three routes. Adapting the three routes straight is too slavish and time-consuming, and Heavens Feel by itself would leave those that haven't read the Fate/stay night VN out in the cold.

Ufotable doesn't look like it's gonna become DEEN anytime soon, so I look forward to what'll come out of this. Being an 'original' route surely meant to build upon what came before in Fate/Zero, it'll probably be kinda new and even exciting, no?
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>Airing in Autumn
>Over half a year away

I wish they had just kept it secret until, like, Summer or something.
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>>101075984
My nigga on all points.
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>>101076001
>and Heavens Feel by itself would leave those that haven't read the Fate/stay night VN out in the cold.
Why would you care about secondaries?
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>>101076001
Sure, sure and I'm the president of USA.
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>>101076001
>Being an 'original' route surely meant to build upon what came before in Fate/Zero
Yes, slightly altered Heavens Feel.
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>>101075913
>who've known each other for a while and really love each other and get along very well.

the entire time shirou knew her shinji was fucking her raw while had him in a leg lock so she would'nt waste a drop of his cum
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>>101075997
More like heaven's fail.
The first part of the route is good because it is an Ilya route. After that it just degenerate into senpai~ senpai~ senpai...
What kind of chemistry is this?
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I don't like Sakura or Rin, but honestly I'm sick of Saber.
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>>101076067
I'm not getting into this discussion because it's just not worth it, but you know damn well that she didn't want that.
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3 things are going to happen in this rendition

1. Shirou x Saber
2. Black Grail
3. Archers vs Shriou
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>>101076152
I'm okay with this as long as they don't ruin Zouken and Sakura's subplot. Of course Shirou and Saber will be horrible, but oh well, I know this shit is popular among fans.
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>>101076152
And don't forget
4. Extra Gil scenes
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>>101074469
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi1FzbGHjNU

Dat Ufotable.
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>they will most likely remove KotominexShirou bromance

Fuck Ufotable, fuck you.
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>>101076210

Gil and Saber meeting each other will also probably happen and he will probably job before Dark Sakura instead of Saber
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So I guess they will try to make it more like F/Z sequel than straight up adaptation of any Fate route.
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There is only one thing I want. Crazy Train II fully animated. If I get that, I'll be happy.
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>>101076001
I'm pretty alright with the new Fate being a "sequel to Fate/Zero" instead of Fate/Zero being "the prequel to Fate/Stay Night".

Hopefully it'll bode well for Ilya and Sakura.
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Two cours. First cour full of fights with random, unimportant servants (Caster, Berserker, Lancer). The the shadow will appear at the end of first season and start eating people. Everyone should be happy.
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>>101075827
So everywhere else = /a/? Btw, she isn't that unpopular.
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>>101076152
>Shirou x Saber
WHY
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>>101076413
because japan
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Rin best girl
Sakrua best slut
Unlimited Blade Worksbest route
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What if this new Fate has no romance at all like Zero?
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>>101076413
>WHY

anything better than sakura too bad their not brave enough to make an Illya route
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>>101076526
Good.
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>>101076526
that's okay too but I doubt it will happen
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>>101076526
>no romance
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>>101076526
I would wet my pants.
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I 100% expect the ending to be some harem bullshit where Rin and Sakura maintain Saber and Rider.
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>>101076528
>Ilya route
Do you even care about the story? Lolicon scum.
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YES

HFFags suck it.

My life has meaning again at least until the summer
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>>101076526
Won't happen, Nips are too in love with Sabershit.
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>>101076597
what do you think havens feel was suppose to be?
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>>101076597
Of course he doesn't care about the story, he's lolicon scum remember?
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>>101076526
10/10 AOTY.
Nasu can't into romance anyway.
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>>101076400
She is the least popular of the 3heroine in both japan and 4chan.
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>>101076638

Rider was 21st place. Never Forget.
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>>101076638
That guy said she was the least popular TM character. There are hundreds of TM characters and Sakura is in the top ten of that poll.
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>>101076638
>8th place among all 250 or so Typu mun chara
>unpopular
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>all the HFag tears
Fuuuuuck it's glorious
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>>101076638
didnt this vote happen during the airing of fate zero?
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>>101076597
Heaven fail was converted from a Ilya route to wormslut route due to censorship law.
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>>101076744
Directly after, if I remember correctly. Hence Gil, Rider, and Kerry doing so well.
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>>101076720
It's really the best route. It's a perfect ending for the story depicted in Fate/Zero.
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>>101076778
Oh, and Waver too. I was just looking for males and totally passed over him.
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>>101076744
I think it was during the 10th anniversary festival.

I may be wrong.
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>>101076778
because I remember sakura doing much worse on earlier polls
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>>101076796
How so?
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>>101076720
HF is the one route that could be an adequate sequel to Zero.
Hell the progression of Shirou's idealism would work out without Fate/UBW because now we have Kerry as a precedent.
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>>101076638
Glad Tohno didn't make top 20. Bland and shallow Marty Stu to the nth degree.

I'd vote for Aoko but glad to see so much Shirou/Archer love.
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>>101076752

No, Nasu had done loli's and loli sex scenes. Just look at Len in kagetsu tohya.

He was just too lazy to write a 4th route.
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So, wait, we'll get F/HA remake?

Animation when?
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>>101076820
Because it's the most integral route to the main story.
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>>101076814
Sakura was the fourth most popular female in the only other full TM character poll after Fate existed (that I can find data for, anyway). She has generally scored lower than the other two heroines in Fate-only polls, true, but she's never been anywhere near the bottom.
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>>101076752
I don't know how people cant tell, there are so many scenes that are out of place with llya in them.
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>>101076820
It is the only route which goes into what the grail really is
It is the only route with Zouken
It is the only route where Rin and Sakura become sisters again
It is the only route where Shirou and Illya get to develop a sibling bond
It is the only route where Shirou chooses not to follow Kiritsugu's ideal
It is the only route with mapo tofu
Sparks Linear High
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>>101076943

Hence why i am expecting a HF route with Saber as the heroine instead of Sakura
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>>101076854
That was before they were a real company, though.

TM was a small doujin group who became famous with Tsukihime then went mainstream with FSN. Part of that conversion to mainstream was taking out the Ilya route.
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>>101077007

and the taiga route
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i just want an Iliya route, that's all.
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>>101076999
Saber a shit, HF with Ilya or Kotomine as the main heroine would be great.
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>>101076999
With Shirou using Rule Breaker on Saber in the end?
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>>101077056
No, no Iliya route for you! You'll take your Saber route and you'll like it!
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>>101077061

Will probably stab Sakura with it as well.
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>>101076943
there are things left undone and you don't meet most of the servants especially Gilgamesh( a key part of fate/zero) just die shitty deaths if someone went from fate/zero to heavens feel they would be missing out on a lot.
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>>101077061
It wouldn't make any sense.
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>>101076597
>not wanting a family story between Kiritsurugu's adopting son of and his daughter.

I don't want a loliconshit, I just want the two of them being happy. a lolishit. It's not necessary.Is this wrong?
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>>101076840
>HF is the one route that could be an adequate sequel to Zero.
You don't explain why.

>>101076910
The main story of F/Z is the despair of Saber as one by one her goals, ideals and motivations are stripped, exposed and mutilated. The route most integral to that is the one where she rediscovers hope, finds meaning in life beyond the impossible dreams and ultimately comes to acceptance with her lot in life, not the one where she gets punked out in the first act and gets demoted to mid boss.

>>101076943
>It is the only route which flat out retraces territory Ufotable have already explored with F/Z
>It is the only route with that character nobody gives a fuck about
>It is the only route where Rin breaks all established character so Sakura can have a sister again
>It is the only route where Shirou and the psycho loli poisoned by old man Acht against anything Emiya get to break all established character to develop a sibling bond
>It is the only route where Shirou abandons his life's goal for poon
>It is the only route with food porn
Well, you're not wrong there.
>It is the only route with a dead end that wouldn't get animated anyway
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>>101077056

It's never going to happen, you got your magical girl spinoff instead
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>>101076597
The best parts of HF came from Illya's scrapped route you know.
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>>101077106
>especially Gilgamesh( a key part of fate/zero)
Exactly. He isn't very important anymore. And let's be serious, he is a horrible villain in FSN. Zouken is much better.
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>>101077056
>what is Kaleid Liner
Fuck, at least your girl got something. I get a plus one on the worst route.
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>>101077137
I don't give a shit. Sakura and fake grail is integral to the story, and this is certainly not a part of your precious Ilya's route.
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>>101077137
This.
The best part of HF was all about Shirou conversation with Ilya at the playground.
I am still mad it get cut off after I choose to save her. Fuck you Nasu.
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>>101077125

You are seriously trying too hard.
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>>101077197
>Sakura and fake grail is integral to the story,

and it was quite the asspull remember fate/zero was made after the fact
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At least once they are done with this we might see some Extra/CCC sometime in the future
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>>101075623
>new clothes
No! Stop doing this! New Arc and New Ciel are garbage, don't inflict this shit on the Fate Stay crew as well!
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>Original story
It better not have anything to do with the routes, since the last time someone tried that (DEEN) and mixed them together, we got a trainwreck. I'm not confident enough in ufotable's adaption skills to be able to pull that off either. They should stick to linear narratives or original works.
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>>101077198
Best parts of HF were Kotomine scenes. Thus the secret Kotomine route is the best route, and the one the anime should follow. Prove me wrong, protip: you can't.
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>>101077201
You're proving his point. Good job.
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>>101077201
You have to try hard to out-bullshit HFags.
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>>101077232
It's still the most interesting route with the best villain, character development for human characters and a really good ending.
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>>101077236
>nekoarc in miniskirt
Comedy gold
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>>101077197
>Implying that it wasn't originally intended for Illya's route.
Sakura's original route was probably gonna be nearly all SoL, hence there was nearly no foreshadowing about her being a grail in the previous 2 routes.
Sakura was originally intended to be non-relevant.
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>>101077294
>It's still the most interesting route with the best villain, character development for human characters and a really good ending.
Every single thing you listed is debatable, especially character development.

Try harder.
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>>101077313
I guess some people do prefer cooking senpai cooking and more cooking.
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>>101077313
>Sakura was originally intended to be non-relevant.
Yeah, you sure have a source for that.
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>>101077336
Well HF handled Kotomanly the best, he wasn't a comic villain he was in Fate n' UBW.
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>>101075149
i couldn't give a flying fuck what they make next,
so long as it's ufotable doing the animation
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>>101077294
>It's still the most interesting route
>blablablablabla dark saber mind of steel oh fuck you you can't have it instead save your shitty girl
fuck you.
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>>101077313
>implying I give a shit about Sakura, Ilya or other horrible heroines
I liked the plot. All girls were rather bland and uninteresting. I don't care if it was originally Ilya's route.
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>>101077362
Can you truly prove me wrong though?
Listen here anon-kun, I'm a very loving man, and I can love you if you just admit that you were wrong in denying what the people want.
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>>101077313
THIS

I played fate/stay night way before fate/zero came out sakura being a fake grail felt like a really big asspull
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>>101077390
You're right, Kirei was the best part about HF. It's just that I feel Zouken was a shitty villain that brought it down overall.
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>>101077236
Shirou (and Shiki) desperately need new clothes, they look like fucking dorks.
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>>101076638
Brocer is probably my favourite Type-Moon.
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>>101077391
My thoughts exactly, I have the VN to care for the story. just want the anime to look nice (which it will).
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>>101077429

At the very least she was Riders master in every other route,
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>>101077428
There's hardly any foreshadowing that Shirou is the redman in Fate. I guess that means Archer was never intended to be relevant to the game either, huh?
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Ataraxia is getting a Vita port.
Finally voiced after 9 years?

>Still being translation
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>>101077239
>I'm not confident enough in ufotable's adaption skills to be able to pull that off either.
You do know that the KnK movies are nothing like the novels right?
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>>101077429
Same. I didn't enjoy anything except HF, which was the only route with something resembling a plot and proper build-up.
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>>101077469
>There's hardly any foreshadowing that Shirou is the redman in Fate.
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>>101077480
>There's hardly any foreshadowing that Shirou is the redman in Fate.
Go read fate again nerd.
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>>101077524
misquoting there?
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>>101077480
wut.
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>play FSN first time through with voices on
>spend two thirds of the route screaming at the monitor for them to figure out the Shadow is Sakura, keeping in mind all the shit that happens to the good character

>>101077518
>proper buildup
>both blew its surprise way too early AND dragged on too far before the payoff
You can't have been more spectacularly wrong.
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>>101077555
Yes I just lost my shit there for a second
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>>101077546
I just reread it, faggot. There's pretty much just the thing in the prologue with Rin's pendant and that's it. It's comparable to how much foreshadowing Sakura being a grail gets, with Gil bothering her in the prologue.

>>101077560
Exactly.
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>>101077480

are you that retarded?
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>>101077518
I'd say it was on par with UBW, except it had such a stronger climax and conclusion that I think more favorably of it.
Fate route was kinda shit though, boring infodumps about the war, forced Saber romance, though the Bersercar arc was cool.
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>>101077480
>Emiya Shirou stop fucking around and create swords that's your true power
>how does this nigga know so much about me not even I knew that
>wait a minute we have the same powers what a coincidence
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>>101077604
Archery club?
What about the magic he use?
Are you doing a Shirou?
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>>101077586
>both blew its surprise way too early AND dragged on too far before the payoff
>a proper villain that we hate
>emotional connection
>mystery regarding the shadow

>UBW and Fate
>1st boss!
>2nd boss!
>Final Boss! (Gilgamesh)
>Oh, and Kirei is evil guys. Surprise!
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>>101077604
Nigger no, how about Archer's projection? or just his talks about ideals with Shirou at the shed?
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>>101077480
Shirou go get some rest its almost time for school
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>>101077655
That's how I saw it too.
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>>101077655
>mystery regarding the shadow
WHAT mystery regarding the Shadow? The player's flat out told it's Sakura in the first act.
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>>101077655
>HF
>forced to save your cooking slave and wormslut over your sister
Literally the definition of forced choice with questionable intention. It is not in Shirou character to think with his dick.
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>>101077658
Or both Shirou and Archer strengthening their eyesight to see things far away?
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Lets all be real. This new Fate will probably not be ANYTHING like Heaven's Feel.
Doing Heaven's feel as a TV series is problematic for a lot of reasons.

1) It assumes you have read through Fate and UBW. Shirou's character arc in HF is interesting because of how far he diverges from the path he took in Fate and UBW. The significance of losing Saber is lost. And Shirou gaining Archer's Arm would just be confusing to someone who had only seen FZ.

2) The pacing isn't great for a TV show. Most of the action in HF takes place in the last third. The rest of the route is mostly talking. Its not inherently bad, but it would be a turn off to people who were expecting another FZ.

3) Not enough Saber. Trying to Shoehorn in more Saber would butcher the route, since she never develops a bond with Shirou beyond master & servant.

Hopefully they go the route of making a sequel to FZ and don't try to cram in shit from each of the routes where it doesn't belong. But who am I kidding, it will probably be mostly slice of life with Saber and the rest of Shirou's harem, Gilgamesh and Kotomine homo time, plus Archer's UBW vs Berserker.
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>>101077731
I have no idea what you're talking about. What choice?

>>101077728
>first act
No.
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>>101077646
>>101077658
I don't think it's ever stated in Fate that Archer is using projection magic, but the shed scene and the archery are decent points.

Honestly, though, I could say the same shit about a lot of characters that are relevant in later routes and it would be correct. There's no foreshadowing that Caster is going to be a big part of UBW. There's no foreshadowing that there's any more to Kotomine than being a generic villain. I doubt they were also never intended to be important in the game and everything about them was just thrown in at the last minute or something, though.
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>>101077655
>a proper villain that we hate
Who, Zouken? I felt that he was really lackluster. I barely even remember him.
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>>101077765
>mostly slice of life with Saber and the rest of Shirou's harem, Gilgamesh and Kotomine homo time, plus Archer's UBW vs Berserker.

That's literally perfect.
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>>101077785
>What choice?
That's the point. You aren't given one.
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>>101077800
Well, he was certainly better than Gilgamesh, who is barely a character in FSN.
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>>101075136
>Hating on Rin's adventure.
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>>101077793
He summons swords even though he's an Archer class servant.
Plus Shirou later projects a sword.
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>>101077883
>He summons swords even though he's an Archer class servant.

So does Gil.
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>forced to save a slut instead of your sister wich you started to established a sibling relationship

Am I the only one who ragequitted at that point?It took months for me to start the route again.
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>>101075136
you fucking what
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>>101077857
Fuck Gilgamesh. I don't get the appeal. I'm okay with a Heavens Feel adaptation only on the fact that we won't see much Gilgamesh.
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>>101077793
Plus the prologue?
Rin saving Shirou with the pendant is a fucking huge red flag considering she was using it as the medium.
We just didnt know that they actually included a fictional hero.
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>>101077947
I mentioned the pendant earlier.
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>>101075910
I wish my biggest problem with this image wasn't that one of those posts horribly misunderstands mana transfer.

The reason Shirou has trouble providing mana to saber is because he doesn't have a proper connection with her like a normal Master and Servant do.

The sex just allows him to give her some prana without that connection. So "having trouble supplying 1 servant with prana, let alone 2" wouldn't be solved by having sex with them, unless the problem was that neither of them had a proper connection with him.

No fun allowed, I know.
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>>101077940
Man, I was hoping she'd get caught and have bad things done to her loli ass in that episode.
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>>101077939
Nah, I didn't like Ilya. She was a shitty annoying imouto-type character for harem lovers.
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>>101077967
it makes you feel better, canon wise she never found her friend and she got murdered with the rest of the kids.
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>>101077968
I didn't like her in Fate. But then in HF she really grew on me. And then I found out the reason for the whole "onii-chan" thing and it actually made sense and wasn't just a stupid gimmick.
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>>101078110
Yes, she was more mature in HF.
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How are they going to call it? Fate Unlimited Feel?
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>>101076999
But that doesn't make any sense. The shadow only appears because Shirou begins to reciprocate Sakura's feelings.
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>>101078167
Saber Strikes Back.
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>>101077940
FINALLY THE RIN HAS COME BACK TO FUYUKI CITAY
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>>101077793
>I don't think it's ever stated in Fate that Archer is using projection magic

I just re-read prologue a few hours ago.

It's not stated, but you can see him use it in the Lancer fight. Lancer disarms him like 8 times and he just keeps making more swords. And earlier, Archer compares the park to a Reality Marble, and Rin mentions how odd it is for an Archer to know about Reality Marbles, which is pretty heavy foreshadowing.
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>>101075090
>Storyboard Cleanup (ep 8)
>Rin's Adventure
NO
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>>101078167
Saber Feel
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There's a little more foreshadowing for Sakura being a grail than you guys seem to think. Not a whole lot, since it's meant to be a big surprise, but still. Apart from Gil in the prologue, there's also Ilya getting sick and bedridden towards the end of Fate, which is eventually revealed to be because she's the grail vessel. Sakura shows the same symptoms in HF.
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>>101078167
Heaven's Fate Works
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Anyway, what do they say about Prototype?
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>>101078240
Rin's Adventure was ep 10, fucknuckle.
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>>101078035
The fact of the matter is this: that purple fruity pebble Uryu's walking around like Barney the Dinosaur, taking kids with his little Wonder Woman wristband, and he thinks he can get away with his little art project. Well The Rin's going to take that little Wonder Woman wristband, shine it up real nice, turn that sonbitch sideways and stick prana STRAIGHT UP ITS CANDY ASS!
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>>101077793
There are numerous hints that Archer is Shirou. For one, they both pull swords out of thin air and Rin comments that both use projection, or a form of it. Additionally, Archer seems to have intimate knowledge of RMs and things he shouldn't, which Rin points out. There are also other cases that you have acknowledged in your post.

Face it, Archer's connection to Shirou was foreshadowed.
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>>101078269
Unlimited Feel Works
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>>101074937
It says they want to keep a similar serious atmosphere as in Zero, and want it to feel like a continuation to Zero's story.

Probably means Kotomine and Sakura will be heavily relevant.
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Also, quote from the prologue from Rin:

>I can confidently say that there are only two magus' at our school, and one of them is an apprentice without enough magical energy to be a Master.

She's talking about herself, and Shinji. But doesn't she also know about Sakura? Is this a case of the narrator straight up lying to us, or what?
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>>101074937
>Shirou getting rid of that terrible shirt
YES
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>>101078192
Instead this time it appears because Sakura is afraid she will lose any connection with Shirou because of Saber and Rin. easy
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>>101078408
Easy? Then how come it didn't happen in Fate and UBW?
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>>101078369
Also, as soon as Archer sees Shirou in the hallway, he goes silent and doesn't answer Rin when she tells him to go follow Lancer. That's pretty huge foreshadowing in retrospect.
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>>101078313
And then Rin gets captured and carried away to a rape dungeon.

Why couldn't it end like that? ;_;
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>>101078399
Now all we need is for Shiki to shed the bottle glasses and his blue-orange t-shirt.
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>>101078377

Only first born children get to become mage's remember. Sakura is younger.
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>>101078377
It's been awhile since I read Fate so my memory is hazy, but isn't it possible she's referring to Sakura there?

Shinji isn't even supposed to be capable of basic magic from what I understand, and to Rin's knowledge, Sakura was handed over to the Matous, was learning magic, but exhibits no signs of being any competent at it.
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>>101078457
>Shiki to shed the bottle glasses
B-But Harry Potter
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>>101078436
Because she is a jealous slut.
Perhaps they will change her character trait to make her much more likable.
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The Shirou-Archer foreshadowing was pretty obvious in retrospect. The same body language, eyebrows and clothing style.

Though RN makes emphasizes their differences a lot more because their seiyuu's have very different tones of voice, even if Suwabe pulls off a pretty good Shirou at the end of UBW.
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>>101078469
But wasn't Sakura adopted to become the heir to the Matou (at least officially)?
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>>101075545
I haven't played HF yet I genuinely just finished UBW , but the other two were phenomenal. HF better be something spectacular for people to consider the others "unnecessary".
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>>101078436

Because this work isn't following the old works exactly, as this thread pointed out
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>>101078454
THEN when The Rin makes to the next Grailmania, she will WALK DOWN the Tsundere Aisle, she will RAISE the Tsundere Eyebrow, and she will DROP the Tsundere Gando, then Servant! After Servant! After Servant! Over the rim into the Holy Grail! Till there's one Master left standing in Fuyuki, and that one Master left standing is The Rin!
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>>101078512
One thing is that and another is completely ignoring some things.
Might as well make Saber a man and Rin a trap if this isn't following the old works exactly.
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>>101078507

Does Rin know that?
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If this really featuring the original story, any chance waver and iskandar will showed up again?
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>>101078369
>>101078438
Okay, fine, I don't care. That >but the shed scene and the archery are decent points was meant to be a concession. I obviously shouldn't have chosen Archer when I've never really been interested in him enough to pay a lot of attention to foreshadowing involving him. Sorry. I just don't think that having her relevance foreshadowed less than some other characters means that Sakura was always supposed to be unimportant or something.
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>>101078537
yes she would know
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>>101078537
Well, I guess she does, considering she was told to ignore her and shit
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>>101078537
Yes.
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Here's something else that bothers me.

Gilgamesh knows Sakura is the grail from the Prologue. Yet in UBW, when he has Shinji as his master, he still goes after Ilya, and when that fails, he uses Shinji instead of Sakura.
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>>101078531
Because she is the jabroni beatin', poontang pie eatin', twin-tail hairin', kneesocks wearing, computer hatin', Mind Of Steel datin', best in the present, future, past, make the Sword of Zelretch to slap your monkey ass Tsundere Champ The Rin!
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>>101078535

Look i just came up with the first idea that came to me, it doesn't mean it's a good one.

>>101078556
>>101078557
>>101078570

Then Rin must not consider Shinji a mage at all and was referring to Sakura with the "only 2 mages" comment. or she is lying to Shirou to keep Sakura's issues a secret from him.
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>>101078551
maybe waver will but only have a short dialogue with rin maybe at the start before the holy grail war begin.
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>>101078553
Sakura was a useless character for 2.5route.
Even in her own route, she was in the kitchen for half the route before being exposed as a jealous mass murderer cunt.
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>>101078625
>forgetting about Rider.
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>>101078375
HF-like non-joke Kotomine confirmed.
Dark Sakura and Zouken confirmed.
Rin-Sakura drama confirmed.
Gil not dying early confirmed.
Important Ilya confirmed.
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>>101074469
>Fate/Ace Royal
Is that some Fate/Magic Gathering?
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>>101078551
Maybe in HF's ending at Rin's trial or something
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>>101078590
Sakura isn't a functional grail, she only has the remnants of the previous one. Zouken's plan was to let those pieces grow for another few decades since she wasn't still functional.

And when Gil had gotten Ilya, finding Sakura would have been a pain since Zouken had already had her come home.
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>>101078590
Because Sakura never activated and received servants to herself.
Also she can withstand the whole grail thing for longer than shinji.
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>>101078487
There was a LOT of foreshadowing that you wouldn't really notice or get until you finished at least UBW. It was one of the better aspects of F/SN.

I don't know why that retard thinks it wasn't foreshadowed.
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>>101078620
>she is lying to Shirou to keep Sakura's issues a secret from him.
She says this to the reader directly, while talking to Archer. She has no reason to hide it.

Her referring to Sakura is the only explanation but I still think it's just an oversight.
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>>101078625
She didn't do much for the first two routes because the extent of her involvement in the war was supposed to be a surprise. And Angra Mainyu is the mass murderer, not her.
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>>101078375
>continuation to Zero's story
>anything but Saber redemption Fate route
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>>101078692

Oversight, that works as well
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Really? A new original story?

Hype kind of crushed. When will they learn pushing the routes together doesn't ever work?
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>>101078672
Still, he doesn't even acknowledge her as an option, despite going out of his way to talk to her in the prologue. Obviously they wanted to keep it a surprise, but using Gil in the prologue just made little sense to me.
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>>101078590
Wise choice.
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>>101078705
It's going to feature all heroines, deal with it.

Also, I hope they change Shirou's VA. Sugiyama is shit.
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>>101078704
Right, raping her own sister was all angra mainyu doing
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>>101078739

That hasn't been confirmed read the earlier parts in the thread.
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>>101078746
Well, there's also the part where sticking two lesser grails into one container could probably end up going awry.
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>>101078767
What
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>>101078625
Its really shows that heavens feel wasn't supposed to be sakura's route if you notice that llya has more main story scenes with shirou in heavens feel then sakura did
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>>101078753
But who gets the J?
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>>101078590
Because Sakura wasn't 'switched on' enough by Shirou.
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>>101078767
I assumed "mass murderer" just referred to the Shadow stuff. Anything she did as Dark Sakura is on her, I don't disagree there, and that bad end is easily the worst thing she does in the game.
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>>101078799
It was supposed to be Sakura's route from the beginning, but it was supposed to be part of "Fate/Other Night", with Illya's route too.
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>>101078739
Maybe it can work. If they can forget about the three routes in the game and just make whhat thay want to make, at least this will be more interesting. Maybe they used the ilya route that has been scrapped from the voice novel.
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>>101078799
Cherry picking away the slice of life scenes as irrelevant is a little unfair though.

I think the idea behind HF is that they want you to believe Sakura is irrelevant and that she's just an innocent person who Shirou wants to protect, and then the crazy shit starts getting introduced later on and it comes as a shock.
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>>101078805
Issei
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>>101078799
And Rin is barely relevant in UBW. Nasu just sperged out from the heroine routes concept and wrote whatever chuuni shit he came up with.
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Why do I feel like ufotable's going to ignore most of FSN just to make it more like a F/Z sequel? I wouldn't be surprised if Shirou's RM is never explained.
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anyone else like having their nipples twisted?
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>>101078840
The problem with that is they spoil their own game, and ANY sort of prejudice the reader has against Sakura before that is amped up to 11. And if you're coming off the back of Fate and FSN you're already sick of how much Sakura gets thrown in your face early on in each route.
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>>101078795
Go read HF again
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>>101078590
To expound: even though Rin saw Gilg in the prologue, why does she never bring him up once they discover his identity? I can't think of any time in any of the routes where she seems like she saw him before
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>>101078865
She's not barely relevant, it's just how the balancing of the heroines goes. Saber does 90% of the heavy lifting in her route. Rin does 50% of the work and finally Sakura is mostly bed-ridden with trying to resist and only works through Rider and right at the end for a tenth of the route.

Without Rin, Shirou would have died a dozen times in UBW.
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>>101078911
Are you implying that Shinji is a girl?
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>>101078910
I'm not saying I liked Sakura. She was the worst part of HF. But she was definitely the focus of the route.
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>>101075478
>In King Arthur's legend, he will be back once the UK is on the brink of destruction or dissolution and will reign as King of the Isles once more and lead the UK to a new age of glory.


>UK being overrun by Muslims, lazy and fat people who lack responsibility, etc

The prophecy is true
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>>101078869
>make it more like a F/Z sequel
That's what the info says. They want to bring the Zero feel to FSN. I don't think it's a bad thing, since Nasu's SOL is not my favorite.
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>>101078937
Holy shit, I never saw it that way.

Thank you, based shitbloods.
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>>101078910
I don't know about that. Sakura barely registered for me in Fate and UBW the first time I played the game. She wasn't really around enough for me to have much of an opinion on her until I hit HF.
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>>101078935
How did you miss Sakura raping Rin at the end of HF?
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>>101078946
>Not liking cooking with Saber
>Not liking cooking with Rin
>Not liking cooking with Sakura
>Not liking going to silly dates with Saber
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>>101078927
I'm sure if we were still inside of her head, we'd have seen her make the connection, but she wouldn't want to draw attention to Sakura and potentially put her in danger based on something she's not sure about.
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>>101078910
>you're already sick of how much Sakura gets thrown in your face early on in each route
I barely even noticed her.
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>>101077586
Are you stupid, slow and black? Who yells at fictional characters for not understanding things that only you've seen?
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>>101078977
Wasn't that in a bad end? I skipped bad ends. Except the one where Rin gets her head chopped off.
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>>101078946
>tfw I actually love the SOL shit
>played FHA strictly for the SOL
At least Vita HA potentially means voices to go along with the translation
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>>101078910
>. And if you're coming off the back of Fate and FSN you're already sick of how much Sakura gets thrown in your face early on in each route.

Not really, i remember wondering "What is the point of this character? will she have a role in the story?"
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>>101079027
Sure just add another 10 years so the team can add it to their translation patch.
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>>101079027
FHA SOL is leagues above FSN SOL.
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>>101078910
This contrast is why there is a huge difference between Kohaku and Sakura.
Both are evil mastermind but Kohaku is loved while Sakura is the least like of the main heroine.
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>new original story
>Illya still doesn't get a route
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>>101079064
read the fucking thread
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>>101079061
Sakura isn't really an "evil mastermind". Well, sure, people who don't really pay attention may think so.
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>>101078508
prepare to be deluded.
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>>101078910
Am I the only one who was actually excited to get to Sakura? When I finished the prologue and Shirou wakes up to her cooking, I thought to myself, "That is prime wife material right there."

I'd have been completely okay if Sakura turned out to be a completely normal girl who got pulled into an awful mess by Shirou for her route.
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>>101079064
>all ages TV series
>they can finally do a non ero Ilya route to ride on Prisma Ilya Zwei hype
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>>101079092
>wormslut apologists
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>>101079061
But Sakura isn't an evil mastermind at all.
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Looking back, the only reason I probably dislike Sakura is because FSN was my first VN. I didn't understand the significance of giving a character unique CGs.

So when she finally does become relevant it felt forced and the fact that the route steers away from what finally made me like Shirou in previous routes with his stubbornness, the last route really comes off as a dividing factor for the fandom.
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>>101079027
>99.9%
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I have said this many times before. But Heaven's Feel is the least stand-alone route in all of F/SN.

I never could imagine them adapting Heaven's Feel as is without doing something else first.
They need to consider the anime-only plebeians, of which are their biggest market.

They could have adapted Fate. They could have adapted UBW. They could do what they appear to be doing, namely making an original mix.
But jumping straight to adapting HF? That would just be bad business practice.
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>>101079118
>Reading comprehension
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>>101079112
I was mostly indifferent to her until I got to HF. And then she became my favorite heroine.
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Was the Ilya route even confirmed to ever be a thing?

I know there was a cut Ilya h-scene in Fate, but that's all I remember hearing about.
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>>101079118
Seriously, if fucking Sakura fits your definition of a mastermind you must be very, very, dumb in comparison.
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>>101079092
What about exposing her pussy to manipulate Shirou? You telling me the strongest Magus in the town cant help herself?
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>>101079154
this
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>>101079124
>and *with* the fact that the route steers away from what finally made me like Shirou in previous routes with his stubbornness, the last route really comes off as a dividing factor for the fandom.
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>>101075364

Yup, he said the romance was ridiculous shit and he was ashamed for it.
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>>101079164

There was going to be a taiga and a illya route.
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>>101079128
Fuck, it's that close!?
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>>101079178
Wasn't that because she needed a dick badly to satisfy herself and Zouken inside her?

In another note, do you think Zouken enjoyed having sex with Shirou?
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>>101079112
You're only allowed to like Rin and Ilya in fate threads, bonus points if you post pictures of Rin looking smug while mocking the other two.
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>>101079132
Anime only fags have already seen Fate and UBW thanks to our buddies at DEEN.
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>>101079178
>the strongest Magus in the town

What does Rin have to do with anything?
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>>101079230

It need verification and editing for about 25~30% of the text although
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>>101079220
>Taiga route
Not really.
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>>101079220
I am asking for the source on that.
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>>101075730

Fate/UC says hi. She gets her happy resolution without falling for Shirou. Even Nasu and Gen agreed the romance was forced and unnatural. They could have had an old fashioned spiritual/friendship bonding.
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>>101076526
>What if this new Fate has no romance at all like Zero?
That would be real weird. Even Mind of Steel had romance.
In the end, the fact that Shirou is broken to the point where he feels that he shouldn't be allowed to love, and that he shouldn't be loved, is a quite notable character trait that is addressed in every route in the story.
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>>101079254

Sakura with black grial backing > Rin > Normal Sakura

>>101079268
>>101079271

go get all the Taiga dojo stamps in F/SN
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>>101079259
>not releasing a milestone patch once they hit 100% unverified
They wouldn't do that to us, they just wouldn't.
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>>101079178
She needs the dick, as in actually needs it you idiot.
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>>101079233
He got to be a slutty girl and take the Jackhammer. How could he not enjoy it?

That's the holy grail right there.
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>>101079298
>Even Mind of Steel had romance.
Where, exactly? In your mind?
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>>101079299
Taiga jokingly saying she had a route doesn't make it true.
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>>101079285
F/UC is non-canon has no story. She jumps from arguing with Ilya for no reason to suddenly having her resolution.

It's fine, if you like not having any reasonable reason for her to have come to that resolution, I guess.

Also, Rin also can solo the entire war and turn Archer into a mascot character! Totally canon!
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>>101079306

They would.
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>>101079233
>In another note, do you think Zouken enjoyed having sex with Shirou?

God dammit sakura is there no end to your bullshit?
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>>101079299
Well, anybody backed by the grail would be extremely powerful. Sakura has a unique and potentially powerful element, but she was never actually trained as a proper magus. Zouken just tossed her in the wormpit and tried to force her element to change to water. She's not much of a magus compared to Rin.
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>>101074775
It says the "Hollow Arc" will be fully voiced. Haven't played FHA so I don't know what that is.
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>>101079285
>Even Nasu and Gen agreed the romance was forced and unnatural.
No, Gen says it is and feels Rin is more the main heroine.Nasu just does his classic 'Yes, yes great point' to whatever Gen says since he never wants to disagree with him on anything during interviews.
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>>101077431

Zouken and Assassin were better vilains than Illya and Caster shit. Gil was a fucking joke villain too.
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>>101079319
He loved Sakura. It was a big thing.
He steeled his mind and had to kill his love.
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I would have like sakura a lot more if she had been the straight man
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>>101079372

FHA has several stories. The Hollow Arc is the main one. Another story is the Sakura/Rider/Shirou threesome.

Damn shame that's not getting voiced.
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>>101079372
Basically it's the main story.

All the side stuff like the SoL won't be voiced I guess.
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>>101079319
Shirou x Kiritsugu's ideals
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>>101079356

Yes but in HF Sakura has the black grail backing which makes her the strongest magus in town. until the contract is severed. i was just proving the point of >>101079178

It;s obvious Rin is the better mage
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>>101079394
>Caster
She was terrible. Typical Disney villain with rape.
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>>101079372
Probably same deal as FSN: everything but the sex scenes.

I better get Rider whippin her hair back and forth though
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Rin F/HA sex scene please. Need more jackhammer.
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>>101079424
It makes her strong, but she's still not really a magus. I'm just being pedantic, don't worry about it.
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>>101079249
>and UBW
Deen's UBW, in all seriousness, didn't tell much of any story at all.
It didn't allow you to get to know the characters, and it didn't even try to make sense of what was happening.

Deen's UBW wouldn't help the audience make sense of things, so it doesn't make much of a difference.
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>>101079429
>Sex scenes
>Vita
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>>101079428
>Typical Disney Villain

Just. No.
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>>101079419
>All the side stuff like the SoL won't be voiced
Whaaaat? That'd be tragic! Think of all the good shit we'd miss out on.
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>>101079464
You just like her because she's pretty.
She was laughable.
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>>101079428

Exactly. I like Gilgamesh but I couldn't take him seriously at all as villain. He and Kotomine felt out of a Disney show until HF nuanced them.

Zouken was terrifying and frustrating nightmare because the fucker didn't die.

Ilya is a great character but as miniboss I couldn't take her seriously at all.

I want Zouken and HF Kotomine and Gil characterizations as villains. Not of this Shinji/Caster/Ilya/etc shit.
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>>101079285
>Fate/UC

You never even played it have you? It was so disjointed it was OOC for her. There's a reason why it's not canon.

Also, death of the author. Nasu also said he wasn't happy with how HF turned out, but I didn't think it was bad.
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>>101079419
>all the SoL won't be voiced
Man, F/HA is almost ENTIRELY SoL. Might as well not voice it at all.
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>>101079467
Well, yeah but there's a LOT of that shit. And it's all optional. It makes sense that only the main story would be voiced. Specifically, the scenes listed under "Hollow" in scene replay mode, if you have the VN.
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>>101079339
>Also, Rin also can solo the entire war and turn Archer into a mascot character! Totally canon!
Are you implying she couldn't?
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>>101079491
>death of the author
>TV tropes
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The magazine is out tomorrow.


You're being trolled.
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>>101079394
>Zouken
>Assassin
>Better than anyone

Honestly, they were just as bad as Gil and Shinji. The only good villain in F/SN was Kotomine.
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>>101079520

This has already been stated you know?
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>>101079491
>. Nasu also said he wasn't happy with how HF turned out,

Citation please because he only said that about Fate.Specially saber/Shirou a love story he called ridiculous.
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>>101079339
>implying she couldn't
Anon, is that what you THINK?
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>>101079519
What?
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>>101079518
Obviously not, she's the ultimate choker.
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>>101079547
Actually, that was what Gen said and Nasu went along with it.

But I can't hate Gen since he ships RinxShirou. That man has good taste.
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>>101079524

Kotomine is the best antagonist, nobody is arguing that point but ONLY in HF. His characterization in Fate and UBW is dumb and campy.

Zouken was legitimately terrifying and repulsive as villain unlike Caster or Ilya. The way he devoured that woman after being cut is an example.
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>>101079254
Sakura is strong as fuck.
She is just too useless to actually use her power until the end of HF. She just likes to play the victim and cling on to her senpai.
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>>101079581

Yes and? Nasu didn't just say he was right, he attacked his own writing and he agreed the idea was stupid and ludicrous and he would rewrite it.
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>>101079503
But dude don't you wanna hear Avenger drop all that outlandish trashtalk?
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>>101079556
>Obviously not, sh-
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK
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>>101079581
>h-he was just agreeing

He said it and went on why was Fate so shitty, retard. Now on the HF citation, where is it mmm?
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>>101079608
>She just likes to play the victim

It's justified at least, even if she overplays it
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>>101079394
No. Ilya was good, she was unhinged and a complete powerhouse with Berserker to the point where some people still think the Caliburn scene was deus ex machina.

Caster was great, a scheming bitch who instead of having lots of power was rather just tactically strong with lots of great assets and pawns.

Zouken had a hostage, never showed up and a servant that was next to useless except for as a distraction. The Shadow did all the work, Zouken was just the guy looting the dead bodies after a trainwreck. Zouken wasn't an opposing enemy, he was a eleventh hour attraction we were meant to hate. Rather than using Assassin to kill Shirou, he even just sends an invite for a conversation where he just reveals what a dick he's been all along.

And Gil isn't a villain, he's a force of nature, a catastrophe-type of event.
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>>101079608
Does it really count as playing the victim if you actually are a victim?
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>>101079519
That's an actual concept in the post-structuralist approach to analysis.
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>>101079547
Nasu was annoyed with how shitty the 'B-But you're a girl!' writing was.Gen is the one who thinks it's ridiculous and in typical Nasu fashion he goes along with anything Gen says and goes 'Yeah it is pretty ridiculous looking at it..'
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>>101079629
Not as much as I want to hear Saber and Rider bickering about food, Caster being the moemoewaifu she knows in her heart she is, Rider soliciting sex from Shirou for a bike and all the other awesome shit in FHA SoL scenes.
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It'll be a new story because they'll remove the romance except for Sakura->Shirou maybe. The last interview said they don't want shounenshit but seinen like Fate/Zero.
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>>101079674

only if she overdoes it
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>>101079655
>It's justified at least, even if she overplays it

mass murders don't get to play the victim
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>>101079701
Good thing Sakura's not a mass murderer, then.
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>>101079683
>Nasu was annoyed with how shitty the 'B-But you're a girl!' writing was.

Which was the entirety of how the 'romance' was built up. I'm glad he realizes it sucked.
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>>101079701

We're not talking about Saber.
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>>101079718

then I wonder who killed all those people?
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>>101079774
Angra Mainyu. Did you not read HF?
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>>101079774
Angry Mayonnaise
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there are people in this world who do not want to see HF animated

i don't even know what the fuck is going on anymore
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Rin is the only Heroine that hasn't killed somebody.
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I'm just excited to see Rin helping to fight in action.

I wonder how tsundere or cold they're going to depict her as throughout a lot of the story she's extremely cold and act downright murderous towards Shirou and doesn't get tsundere until much later.
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>>101079807
I'm sure there are plenty of people who feel the same way about anyone who doesn't want to see UBW or even Fate. Everybody's got their favorite.
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>>101079810
Rin purest heroine.
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>>101079801
>Angra Mainyu. Did you not read HF?

Angra Mainyu only pushed the emotions that were already there and sakura was fully aware of what was happening
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>>101079749

Is this getting adapted too?

Then is a confirmed new route. Nasu called the route that follows before FHA: the Ilya route but not a romantic route for Ilya.
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>>101079810
Do you mean before the VN takes place? Who has Sakura killed?

After? No, if you count the bad endings she has to put down Shirou at least once. And MoS, too.
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>>101079810
Doesn't she mercy kill Shirou's brain in that one bad end where Caster has destroyed his body and keeps his brain alive in some magic tank?
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>>101079842

No. If she had been aware, he wouldn't need to project when she was sleeping, genius.
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>>101079810
She kills Shirou
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>>101079846
>>101079857

>Counting bad ends
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>>101079801
>>101079802


Doesn't Kotomine call her out on that bullshit later on and says that she knew what she was doing the whole time?


I remember Sakura getting pretty fucking ass devastated about it
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>>101079828
but Fate and UBW have already been done, albeit poorly

remember when F/Z was first announced? the threads were full of hopeful dreamers wishing for an adaptation of HF

i suspect it's largely secondaries who jumped in after F/Z and then read F/SN / tried the anime and decided they wanted the ufotable treatment for the first two otherwise this just doesn't parse properly
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>>101079845
No, FHA is getting a vita port. And stop with the Ilya route, it is destined to never happen unless Nasu goes bankrupt.
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>>101079810
She kills Shirou in a few of the endings.
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>>101079880
Yes, they're counting canon you moron.
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>>101079845
>the route that follows before FHA
You haven't even touched FHA, have you?

All the routes follow before FHA. It's a merged world where everything happened, just like Kagetsu Tohya.
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>>101079691
>The last interview said they don't want shounenshit but seinen like Fate/Zero.
I know people do talk like this, but I can still not really see the difference between "seinen" and "shounen".

It has to do with the demographics for sure, but that's just the theory.
People say that CCC is seinen? Then how come it is in many ways even more juvenile than F/SN?
Space Brothers is relatively mature, but Berserk, Bastard, and Kaleid Liner are all juvenile as fuck.

So what does "mature" really mean, and what the fuck is "seinen" supposed to entail?
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>>101079842
Sakura was not aware of what was happening until the dream with Gil, which was the last one. No more mass murdering happened after she more or less realized what was going on. AM would have acted the same no matter who it was attached to.

>>101079894
Kotomine calls her out on trying to make it seem like Dark Sakura is a separate personality. He doesn't say a word about the Shadow.
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Reminder that Saber killed Shirou and his parents in the fourth war by destroying the Grail.

It never got addressed because Kotomine took the blame for the shits who really caused it: Kiritsugu and Saber.

Gilgamesh put a stop to the destruction and yet Shirou never knew he and Kirei were innocent.
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>>101079774

Sakura: Woman of Murder.
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>>101079880


And why wouldn't those count?


Multiverse nigga
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>>101079894

No, dumbass. He calls her on her BS after she accepts the curse. At that point the deaths have stopped. Did you FUCKING read HF?
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>>101074775
>I hope it's full voice
I hope, that it will be officially localized.
Because we are never going to see it otherwise with all these machine translations.
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>>101079904
Who doesn't kill Shirou?
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>>101079913

They want a serious story and not haremshit. It's no surprise, if you check the OP ufotable did the only romance they hint is Sakura's feelings for Shirou.

There's a lot of family emphasis for all the characters.
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>>101079948
>machine translations.
>vita
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>>101074791
Illya Route
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>>101079965
Sakura.
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>>101079918
Was it Saber who caused it to overflow before F/Z was written? I don't remember anymore, but a lot of small details got retconned or ignored...

Still, two command seals isn't something one can resist. Saber kills Rin, Shirou and Archer in one bad end when Caster uses a second command seal for example.
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>>101079904
I only remember the one where Shirou's brain was being kept alive and experimented on by Caster and Rin mercy kills him. Was there any bad end where she kills him as an act of aggression?
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>>101079965
I don't think Sakura ever does. Other than that, all I can really think of are characters like Taiga and Mitsuzuri who are never especially relevant.
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The promotion of "story for the new generation" had loli Sakura, Ilya, Rin and shota Shirou.

If it's a new story, they'll probably include adult Waver somehow.
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>>101079993
The hell did you just smoke.
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>>101080024
Name it, you can't.
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>>101079654
What does him saying it's shitty have to do with anything mhmm?

Are you so much of a sheep that you can only mould your opinion after the authorts?
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>>101080024
When does she kill him?
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>bought new computer ages ago
>realize I hadn't reinstalled FHA
>dig up my old copy
>can't figure out how to install
Fuuuuuck
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>>101079974
It'll have Shirou/Sakura and Rin/Saber

The shitstorm will be unreal
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>>101079974
Are you implying F/SN or CCC are haremshit? I certainly hope not, that's just silly.
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>>101080038
>>101080047
If you don't get enough of her points in HF, the shadow kills you.
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>>101079993
She did sic Alter and Berserker on him and was just about to kill Shirou and Rin if it hadn't been for the best girl.
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>>101080013
Didn't Sakura causes more bad ends than any other character?
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>>101079824
So lovely.
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>>101080004

If Sakura is accounted for the murders Angra Mainyu did against her consent for tapping on her subconscious while she was sleep, Saber and Kiritsugu should be accounted too.

Specially when Kirei took the blame of something he never knew what he did. His desire wasn't even KNOWN to him until after the fact.

So no. I wish this adaptation would fucking address Kiritsugu and Saber DESTROYED Shirou's life. He can forgive them, but enough of using Kirei and Gilgamesh as the fucking scapegoats for their manchildren bullshit ideals.
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>>101080056

You mean Shirou/Sakura and Gilgamesh/Kotomine.
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>>101080090
I don't see how it'd happen, though. Kiritsugu clearly feels guilty about it all but I don't know how anyone would force the realization upon Shirou.
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>>101080090
Ah, okay this is about Sakura, I'm not even going to touch this conversation any further, except for
>manchildren bullshit ideals
Fuck off.
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>>101080090

Ataraxia explanation of how the Grail works actually condemns Kiritsugu if you go back to Zero.
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>they wanted to do something seroius.

Mind of Seel route confirmed.
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>>101080073
I guess that sort of counts, but it's days before Sakura becomes conscious of her connection to the Shadow. It's hard to see it as her killing him rather than AM.
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>>101080180
Oh god all those sakurafag tears
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>>101080121
Go to bed, fujoshi.
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>>101080151

No, I blame Sakura for the crimes too and so does she, Shirou acknowleges this and is ok, I'm fine because is explored. But Kiristugu and Saber got scottfree with something worse and Gilgamesh (Who saved the fucking day) and Kirei (who was dead) got shoveled with their fucking sins. No thanks.

Be a man and face your mistakes.

They are manchildren bullshit ideals. They killed their human side for bullshit and killed people for that sake. That's cool but now they had to face the responsibility.
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>>101080226
It would be delicious.
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>>101080226

You mean Rinfags and Illyafags tears?

Because Shirou kills those bitches off. Sakura is killed by Rin.
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So about those new clothes, you think they will be getting completely new color schemes, or will they just be upgraded to better looking ones? Rin and Shirou both have a pretty trademark color scheme going on that I would like to see included.
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>>101080260
>Gilgamesh (Who saved the fucking day)
He did what, how now?
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>>101080286

EVEN BETTER.
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>>101080304
It's going to be /fa/te stay night
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>>101080306

Read Fate/Zero. It was Gilgamesh who stopped Angra Mainyu rampage after Kiritsugu hurt his feelings because he accepted him and that was all Angra Mainyu wanted. He stopped the fire.
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>>101080286
So, everyone mad: the anime?
I'm up for it. Just imagine the death threats.
Won't happen though.
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>>101080306

Gil told Angry Manjew to fuck off with his butthurt and he stopped.
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>>101080260
Kerry gets to die a slow and painful death, mindbroken and miserable except for Shirou. Saber had no choice in the matter.
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>>101080304
>new clothes
If it's just them having additional clothes, then I am all for it.
In the Vita openings they already wore their trademark clothes, so I am assuming they will be having them in the actual show as well.

And well. Having more than one set of clothes in a two week period of time, is kind of normal, no?
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>>101080286
Everyone's shedding tears except Kotominefags.
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>>101080342
>>101080370
All I remember is that Gilgamesh told the Angra Mainyu to shut it, and got spit out.
Then he taunted Saber.
Then Saber destroyed the grail and everything burned.

I don't remember him saving anything.
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>>101080306

When Angra was mad about who will accept him and carry on the burden of the sin, he called out and said he would.

After that, the mud dispersed, formed his figure and the incident stopped. The previous fire lingered, but he halted it. That's why he felt he could control this shit in UBW and backfired.
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>>101080458
You remember the order of the events wrong, for one.
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>>101079846
>And MoS, too.
What?
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>>101080458

You remember shit then because Saber was gone and Saber had already destroyed the Grail by this shit.

He was swallowed by the Grail she destroyed and she went back to the hill...

She caused the fire. He ended it. He was also right all along.

Where's your God know?
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>>101080509

I want Saber to find out this shit so I can laugh at her humiliation.
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>>101080506
Rin kills Sakura in MoS.
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>>101080386
It says "outfit renewal", sounds more like a Tsukihime type of deal. Honestly I think Shirou needs it.
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>>101080561

Nobody actually played VN. Most dumb idiots here, think that Shirou killed the wormslut in MoS when he's said he's going to ice the loli and the tsundere they like so much.

Now I want that to be adapted just to see their tears when they die poisoned by his food.
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>>101080541
It already happened in Fate route.
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>>101080640
Generally those who prefer MoS reject all the heroines, not just Sakura.
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So, this will be DEEN tier right?
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>>101080587
I always really liked Shirou's clothes. They are plain, but relatively stylish for being plain.
They are clothes that you could easily imagine an actual person to wear.

And not just some /fa/ person.
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>>101080747
Get ready for another Sakura in the SM outfit
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>>101080747
No, because it will at least look better.
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>>101080702
Maybe the people who are legitimately interested in what might happen after the bad end, yeah. But there are a lot of folks who only seem to care about MoS because they hate Sakura and she dies in it.
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urobuchi is going to help with this? because if is a F/Z sequel then at least he need to be involved in some way
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Maybe this is Nasu's attempt to fix what he doesn't like about FSN? Hasn't Nasu said he would do some things differently if he was writing it now?
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>>101080757
Shirou just doesn't care, buying the best quality for the cheapest he can. Probably in bulk, too. Fashion is a concept that completely eludes him.
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>>101080809
From my experience, those people tend to prefer HF Normal.
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When will Shirou become a Kamen Rider?

I'd see him as OOO...Archer would be Faiz.
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>>101080845
Nah, he already fixed what he didn't like in Realta Nua
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>>101080845
He's never satisfied with anything he does.
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>>101080849
Definitely in bulk, his clothes get torn to shreds in every action segment.
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>>101077480
They are amusingly similar, those two.
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>>101080958
"Nah, I can still fix it!"
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>>101080915
In my experience, they approve of any ending where Sakura is dead or unhappy.
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>>101080977
He's just too polite to say half the shit that goes through his head.
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>>101081007
I wonder if Shirou can proficiently trace clothes.
They would end up "empty" inside, but for as long as they don't fall apart from being too shit, then what more does clothes need?
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>>101081064
Wearing traced clothes makes you a fuccboi.
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>>101081060
I so would want to treat Rin her food.
Rin is wonderful, but she would do good with some more meat on her bones.
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What the fuck is happening in the F/Z manga
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>>101080304
I could actually see Shirou getting some kind of white jacket with a little blue on it.
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>>101074775
>I hope it's full voice

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/01/28/fatehollow-ataraxia-coming-playstation-vita/
>The Vita version will have full voice acting.
Rejoice.
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>>101081351
I came into Fate because I had a fetish for strong capable female knights.

I was very disappointed by the moeblob I ended up getting.

Fate/Zero Saber was perfect.
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I disliked Shirou's design at first, but I got used to it pretty quickly. I still don't like it, but I don't really mind it either. His school uniform is pretty hideous, though.

Though his shirt looks cool when it's torn, shredded and bloody so it balances all out.
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>>101081388
But Zero Saber gets her butt kicked and is useless for two-thirds of the story, how does she fit into your "capable" fetish?
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>>101081415
I grew attached to Shirou's design one day when I was going through my closet and realized I had the same shirt. I never wear it but y'know.

>>101081453
Alright. "Perfect" was a bit strong. But she wasn't sucking dicks and she wasn't carrying around lion plushes.
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>>101081388
>I came into Fate
Did you take responsibility?
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>>101081494
She may be a 20-30 year old king, but as a person she's only a 14 year old girl. It's called gap moe, learn to love it.
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>>101081316

Hot.
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>>101081316

KOTOMINE ROUTE CONFIRMED.

Do we get a threesome with Gil?
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>>101081316
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>Berserk will die like in Fate
>Gil loses to Saber like in Fate
>Shirou battles Kotomine HF style
>Saber is romantic partner
>Archer kills one servant, goes rogue like in UBW but regrets it because wow character development and sacrifices himself, possibly to score that one kill
>Rin somehow gets Sakura out of the Dark Sakura funk
>Last Episode after the ending credits of the last episode
It will turn out like this.
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>>101082062
Sounds terrible.
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>>101082086
That's what you get when you go anime original.
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>>101082062
>>Last Episode
I still really dislike that thing. Way to make the original ending worse.
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>>101082674
Blame Takeuchi, as always.
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>>101082062
>>101082134
God that sounds fucking abyssmal



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