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I've watched the first few episodes of Haruhi and it turned into stupid supernatural shit, does it start to get better or does it keep getting sillier while introducing even dumber characters?
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Why does everybody hate what makes it great?
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SEASON 3 FUCKING WHEN
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Depends on what you mean by watched the first few episodes. If you watched them in chronological order then you fucked up. The show was made to be watched in it's original broadcast order, otherwise the pacing is horrible, for instance all the supernatural parts are built up to and make much more sense.

There aren't many characters in Haruhi, but the main story is a supernatural one, so if that isn't you thing then yeah it's going to get worse for you.

That being said the movie is amazing, so if you at all like the show it makes watching the two seasons worth it.
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>>101016803
>If you watched them in chronological order then you fucked up. The show was made to be watched in it's original broadcast order, otherwise the pacing is horrible

Bullshit. The episodes were out of order because otherwise the first season would have climaxed in the middle followed by filler episodes. If you have the whole series watch it in chronological order.
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>>101017040
>first season would have climaxed in the middle

that's exactly why you don't watch it in chronological order
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>>101016469
it's about a bossy bitch who gets whatever she wants

it's also slice of life, which I'm not a particularly big fan of
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>>101017040
>chronological order
>good
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>>101017105
If you watch it straight through, there is no first season to climax prematurely.
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>>101016321
I always thought it presented itself as a sci-fi
and much moreso as the series progressed chronologically
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>>101017153
>By-product of anime broadcast schedules
>Good
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>>101017183
Many of the episodes in the first season are built around the characters knowing things the audience doesn't. The narrative was also paced so there would be some level of suspense as the earlier events that would be revealed in later episodes. Watching it in chronological order ruins key parts of "filler" episodes.

Also, the second season is shit so you might as well watch the first one correctly.
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>>101017138
No, you dumbass. It's about an average guy who gets involved in extraordinary shit revolving around a singularity, who happens to be a haughty love interest.
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>>101017328
>Many of the episodes in the first season are built around the characters knowing things the audience doesn't.
Except they aren't. They're based on the LNs which aren't in that order.
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>>101017459
>nothing extraordinary happens
>except for in maybe 2 or 3 episodes
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>>101017469
that's the difference between the LNs and the anime. The LNs don't do it, but the anime does.
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>>101017548
>Not watching season 2 and the glorious movie
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>>101017040
>watching anything out of release order
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>101017686
The movie is so good, makes the Endless Eight forgivable.
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>>101017817
>The movie is so good, makes the Endless Eight forgivable.
I marathoned season 2. Nothing made that shit "forgivable."
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>>101017686
Would I like them if I didn't like the first season?
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>>101017842
you know there are eight, but you watch every one, seeing tiny differences, hoping it will change, and then your right back at the beginning on the next episode.

And you know there are eight.
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>>101017905
you wouldn't, so you can leave the thread
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>>101017817
I agree. Hell, I didn't even mind EE THAT much. I was so high off there being a season 2 my braid was numb to it.

>>101017905
The movie is the single greatest animated film of our time. But you need the context, so you'd damn well better watch the rest, too.
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>>101017927
I know. It was soul crushing. I gotta give props to the director though. It takes a badass to release the same thing 8 times in a row.
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>>101017645
>>101017747
You faggots are acting like it was done intentionally and improves the story, instead of by necessity in order to fit the first novel's story within the constraints of the season. When those constraints are gone, there's no reason to watch it that way.
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>>101017842
I watched it when it aired.
It was also the time where I started to follow seasonal anime.

It wasn't bad, it was more a kick in the balls every week, hoping that it would be the final one.
The rest of season 2 was complete shit too. At that moment I realized that Kyoani are just some sort of hipster with thei shitty release order and endless eight.
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>>101018052
Imagine you're getting kicked in the balls for nearly 4 hours straight. That's what marathoning it was.
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>>101017040
Except season two is far worse than season one and if you watched them together you messed up your experience entirely. Season one is best kept by itself, then you watch the other stuff afterward.
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>>101018020
or a lazy son of a bitch
not complaining though because it made the movie that much more meaningful
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>>101018183
How did they release it on dvd/bluray? Was it 4 volumes of 2 episodes each? I can't imagine who bought it.
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>>101018205
I have no idea how the releases went on Blu-Ray
>>101018074
I can imagine it now (didn't frequent /a/ at the time)
1 week of IT BEGINS
6 weeks of wasted hype
and then it was over
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If Haruhi was a better show it could justify itself for airing the episodes out of order, but it's shit so it just comes off as full of itself.
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>>101018037
What constraints of a season? It got 14 episodes, only 6 of which came from the first book. They chose the way they wanted to make it within those episodes, meaning it was built and directed to be watched that way as a season. Which is why the pacing and narrative is arranged in a way conducive to watching it in the broadcast order.
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>>101018287
Haruhi's been a pretty big deal since it the beginning, and definitely has more staying power than other animes. Have to remember there was a big gap between season 1 and 2, as well as a movie. It's the kind of Anime people either avidly love or dislike completely.
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KYON IS GOD
SATSUKI > HARUHI

also all brunettes are divine
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>>101018492
sasaki*
damnit brainfail
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>>101018345
The real answer is watch it twice, first in broadcast order, then chronological
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>>101018345
>What constraints of a season? It got 14 episodes, only 6 of which came from the first book
They didn't want to burn through those first six episodes and end with eight episodes of filler, but you can't really start with any other story. In order to pad it out to a normal season length, they inserted stories from other novels.

>narrative is arranged in a way conducive to watching it in the broadcast order
The narrative was arranged by the novels which do not follow the broadcast order.
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>>101018718
>They didn't want to burn through those first six episodes and end with eight episodes of filler

Exactly why you should never watch it in chronological order, because that's what you get.

>The narrative was arranged by the novels which do not follow the broadcast order.

Anime can be different from it's source material. By adding later story, where characters are tensely alluding to past events, it creates suspense while solving the problem of creating a narrative centered around a book that could not fit a whole anime.
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>>101017040
How can you even be this fucking retarded?
It's like you have adhd or something and don't know jackshit about pacing or story-telling. Fuck I hate guys like you spouting this shit about chronological order.
>B-but muh LNs
Fuck you, this is an adaption and how the director chose how to adapt it is all that matters.
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>>101018326
>I watched the show in chronological order because I'm a huge fucking faggot and a retarded sperging shitlord
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>>101018990
not even the LN's were in chronological order, so I can't believe why
>>101017040
would advertise chronology for the sake of a better experience
Not to mention viewers who don't watch in the proper order get a disparity in terms of opening remarks and episode teasers
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>>101018939
>Exactly why you should never watch it in chronological order, because that's what you get.
Only if you're watch season 1 chronologically in a vacuum. Watching the whole series chronologically, you get:
Melancholy arc -> short arcs -> Endless Eight -> Sigh arc -> filler -> Movie
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>>101017138
Basically. A lot of the dialogue consists of Koizumi elaborating on why she must be continually appeased(and said explanations are quite tinny). It would have been perfect if she sincerely wanted something interesting to happen(instead it's the other characters idealizing her, when really she only sets them about cliche anime tropes).
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What if I tell you that endless eight is my favourite part...
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>>101018990
Melancholy was intending to be experienced all the way through in one go. Jumping around added nothing to it.
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>>101019103
I would say watch season 1 in broadcast order, and if you like it enough watch it again in chronological order since that's pretty much required to go into season 2. That way you see season 1 as it was designed and not just rearranged for chronology's sake and still get the proper way for going into season 2.
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>>101019226
Which still isn't as good as non-chronological s1, skipping all but Tanabata of s2 and then watching the movie.
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>>101016321
its like advanture time and other cartoon networks. gay directors make the scripts, he send it to the jew, the jew liked it, he send it to the dyke feminist, the dyke feminist like it, it's aired in cartoon network. our jewed up society likes faggotry, that's why the show is popular.
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>>101019226
yeah, but the Melancholy arc is the only part that has a good narrative pacing, if you watch it that way you get a climax at episode 6 and the next one is basically the movie (season 2 being the wreck it is). That kind of pacing is horrible, making the entire middle a wasteland of filler.
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>>101019453
filtered.
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>>101019453
Please leave.
And never come back.
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>>101019453
Posts like this prove there is no mod
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>>101016469
Because those are screens from the movie and 3 out of many more episodes and are not indicative of what the series is normally like.
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>>101019453

I post that stupid just has to be true.
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>>101019471
There honestly isn't a perfect way to adapt it because Tanigawa wrote so many short filler stories.
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>>101016469
With good reason. It made the series schizophrenic. The supernatural elements didn't fit with the ordinary bullshit established at the start and there wasn't nearly enough expanding on those concepts.

So they establish this alien shit, some lackey of the great datacloud in the sky, meant to monitor The One. Oh neat, we see two aliens. What are the other ones like? What goes into hacking reality and could a non-alien figure part of it out?

And then we learn one chick is a time traveler meant to also monitor The Paradox Creator. Dang, that's kinda cool, what other time travelers are there and what-

And then the new guy is an esper who enters pocketspace to fight auragiants manifested by The Anomaly with a team of espers. That's wicked, how do his abilities manifest ou-

No one idea gets any proper elaboration and feels tacked on just for the sake of contributing to the broadcast order mystery shit. The show tries to juggle supernatural and slice of life while portraying the latter as end-of-the-world monster of the week episodes like the former, but it comes off as impossible to immerse in because nothing is ever fucking explained to you and even the one person who tries to give answers admits it's all bullshit.

Not to mention that the subject of all this is a cunt narrated by a spineless twat. Yeah, he's funny, but he's still a beta faggot. He hides his weakness behind a mask of sarcasm and faux confidence because "shikata ga nai".

Fuck you no, you tell a story goddamn it. Intellectual references are not a substitute for actual content.
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>>101020613
Completely missed the fact that Haruhi and her sub-conscience reality bending explains all of that and is the center of the show.
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>>101020613
We saw 3 aliens, we know what their goal is, we know how they operate, using pure logic and data, we know they're dicks since they made Nagato emotionless and wanted to erase her, and that Kyon declared war to them.

We know adult Mikuru is one of the people who order the time travellers, and Young Mikuru a lackey.

We know espers track Closed Spaces and kill the Celestials, but didn't have much to do since the moment Haruhi and Kyon kissed. We also saw a few members, and we know they have lots of fonds.

We know 3 theories about Haruhi : the God, the potential for evolution and the anomalies-discoverer.

We also know 2 theories about time : the continuous one and the "picture added" one (what the time travellers think).

What do you want to know more ? Haruhi isn't only about science-fiction, but also about healing Haruhi's mind, and Kyon's evolution. We've seen plenty.
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>>101021219
>We also saw a few members, and we know they have lots of fonds.
>we know they have lots of fonds.
>fonds
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>>101016321
It totally doesn't do that at all

Just watch it
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>>101016489
>yfw this year
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>>101021027
That's a handwave, and it's not even an interesting one. If the center of the show isn't interesting, why bother?

>>101021219
Why do I want to know more? Because the show inserted those elements and made them seem important. Of course I want to know more, it's a lot more interesting than the point of the show, which is healing Haruhi's mind, which I don't care about because she's a cunt, and Kyon's evolution, which he doesn't.

After 13 episodes, nothing is answered. Nothing is solved and the second season answered even less. Instead of answering questions and expanding on the previously established ideas we just get 8 episodes of oh wow it's fucking nothing and 5 of Haruhi being, big surprise, a cunt.

It's inane bullshit. Haruhi's existential crisis only served to make her a cunt when she could've become more mindful of others.
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>>101019453
>That's why it's popular

That's why it's promoted and marketed as 'popular'

Free! and anything fujo or incest related is now because of the jew, yes
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>>101021620
You misreaded me, I said "what" do you want to know more. We already know plenty. The sequels focus more on this too, since Kyon gets involved in conflicts between factions of time travellers and stuff like that.
But that's not the main point of the show, the show revolves more around the characters, about Haruhi, Kyon and Nagato development. And it does it well. If you're here excepting the anime to talk about espers and shit 24/24, you're not looking at the right anime. And personally, I think it's much more interesting.

>kyon doesn't evolve
pic related. Yeah he totally doesn't.
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>>101021620
Pro tip:

Read the novels.
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>>101016321
Except this all is one big metaphor for haruhi's coming of age and solipsism. It is a case of a character examination, the supernatural crap is just a tool for the viewer's analysis, by similarity and analogy we arrive at her complete image in her radiant perfection, nothing of what has been said is necessary true, the only sure thing is that haruhi, the alleged goddess of the world, is the point of reference and the reason for her own life to exist, as well as the warrant to her examination.

Haruhi is the one, but is she the only one? The series nudges us to think, what if we shifted the point of reference to another girl, would it be any different? And so it establishes that multiple world existing in different people are for all intents and purposes equally real, and everyone is haurhi in their own right.

Haruhi is the center of the universe, the ultimate all-powerful god, but not because she is special in any way, or different from any other human, not because she actually has any power, but because we at looking at her right now.
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>>101022002
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