Numero Uno ;_;
Looks like I already missed all the finale reaction. To the archives.
Good night, sweet hat.
Why do I feel so sad when I look at this picture?
it reminds you of your long gone childhood
The unenlightened masses
They cannot make the judgement call
Give up free will forever their voices won’t be heard at all
While never stepping out of line
And blindly swear allegiance
Let your selfish control your mind
THE FIRES OF GREED WILL BUUUUURN THE WEEEAAK
SO WE'LL MAKE FREEDOM OOOOBSOLETE
>"Make me ultra happy with your cock!"
Characters not speaking in New Stage 3:
Fresh, Heartcatch, Suite and Smile (except for Pinks)
It's over. We won't see Mana and her friends again.
Sagara Seiji, this is Nikaidou, the Banchou leader of Oogai First Middle School, speaking.
You said you don't have any interest in a relationship? You don't want to bang your childhood friend neighbor super heroine?
At first, I was just a random recurring classmate. I don't even care about Mana. Well, there's that incident during school festival, but that's because VP was too useless to solve the problem.
Then come the movie. The writers made me developed a crush on her. They retconned me, Momota, and Yashima as Mana's childhood friends. And stupid Mana, I knew she would ask Rikka to watch the movie with us. Thank you Alice for telling me.
When that giant invaded our town, I made a cameo alongside everyone else. Because, you know, everyone needs to back for the finale. But then the writers, oh God knows why, made me so out-of-character in the last two episodes. I was supposed to not care about Mana, damn it! ...Wait, did I just call Pres "Mana"? Aaargh! I called her that once because she wasn't a Pres back then! Stupid Rikka, why you need to tell that to the viewers!?
At least you've been established as Megumi's potential love interest, Seiji. Remember, if you want to tap dat ass, you need to interact with her often.
I'm busy, some other time.
There's still the movie and NS3. But yes, after that it's really over.
All we can do is to greet HaCha with open arms. Whether we decide to truly embrace it is a different story, I suppose.
I want to embrace that butt with open arms.
I guess it makes sense for SS duo and YPC5 team to get speaking roles now. Because they were mute in previous two NS.
I'm surprised SS gets to speak at all. I guess Toei decided to throw them a bone since it's the last NS movie and all.
I will be infinitely amused if HaCha built off of Doki's epilogue. If you're crazy enough to hope for that to happen, it may pay off in 6 days.
>not with a petrified cucumber
>If you're crazy enough
Which HapCha will be the most socially inept?
Princess due to being a foreigner. They usually are the inept ones.
The young female villain who gets converted into a green cure at midseason.
Are you trying to charge me again?
I just got around to watching it. Wrap up was nice, I liked them connecting the worlds and Alice enquiring about the automated cleaners was a nice throw back. The rest of the episode, and I guess the series as a whole, was just overwhelmingly mediocre. I can only hope HaCha delivers.
This moment saved the show.
Can Car Captor Sakura defeat Parthenon Heart?
It's always hard to tell who could beat whom because so many of the ultimate forms don't even try.
>started Smile expecting pure fun
That's all, right /a/? Everything from now on will be fun, action and cutesy, right?
>Car Captor Sakura
You fucking shitbag.
>Car Captor Sakura
That's not funny anon
throwback to the Green Ranger?
I would be amused.
It actually will, not sure what happened these two weeks.
I don't get it.
>throwback to the Green Ranger?
Dragonranger wasn't evil, he was against the team out of his own grudge.
I hope ye not be pullin ta wool over me eyes, m8.
Asspained over an overpowered little girl?
You guys suck.
I don't think Toei has ever fucked up the whole idea of "power of friendship-based franchise" as much as with Doki Doki.
Disgrace of the family.
I think it has something to do with the "Car" part. Still don't get it, though.
If true, then I don't get it either. Typos happen.
She dies in a car accident
Oh okay, you're just bs'ing.
You guys are fags.
You know, the last episode really could have been made much better by simply rearranging some scenes.
> have everyone shout and holler while Mana is down.
> entire country blooms with love.
> she respawns.
There, makes a lot more sense now.
>Nao starts too fall
"No problem, Yayoi will cheer for her and she will recover"
>She fucking falls to the ground
"I see, she's going to get up and make a mirac-"
>Everybody passes her: last place
>After catching her breath she immediately starts crying
This shit hit me like a brick.
Or what everyone wanted: an actual fight where the rest of the team has to do something to save Mana. Then once they've been thrashed but were barely able to revive Mana, they can tap out and let her 1v1 after her powerup. But as it happened, the corruption had literally no reason to happen.
I remember my soul being crushed like it were yesterday.
It really amazes me just how faggoty you guys can be. It's astonishing, really.
It really amazes just how you can English
I love you too, faggot.
Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles
It's amazing that an episode like that came from Smile of all years.
I want to put my hands in Nao's swimsuit from behind her while she's cooking.
How do I get my hands on this wall scroll?
Would've been better if the scene with those three guys is relocated after this
> entire country blooms with love.
> "Don't die, Mana!"
> his love reaches Mana
> she respawns
But then it'll piss /u/ off. So, eh.
Of course, but my point was that even the way it happened could have been improved upon with a few simple rearrangements.
BWAHAHAHAHA, that would have been fucking hilarious.
Agreed. This final episode was a let-down, especially after how awesome 48 was, and how Toei seemed to remember all the fun stuff in 48 which made the show good (emphatically including Rosetta Balloon).
There were some good bits, like the epilogue which had me giggling like the little girl that I am, but the fight was poorly choreographed, the "corruption" was poorly used, and the Mana-spotlight was really depressing.
Honestly I wish Mana were corrupted, the other girls had to fight Numero Uno as a team, and then they saved Mana just in time for the finisher which probably focused on Mana because by that point everyone else was exhausted from all the ass-kicking they just handed out.
Suite Precure: 16712 pictures on Pixiv
Smile Precure: 53822 pictures on Pixiv
DokiDoki Precure: 26800 pictures on Pixiv
Smile comfirmed for most loveable Cures.
Now remove Piss' pictures from the count.
TARTBEAT OF LOVE
I think that's more of a testament to how popular Peace is, than anything.
I want to walk home in the rain with the Smiles.
How much does Peace have alone?
Yayoi Kise (黄瀬やよい): 10436
Kyua Pissu (キュアピース): 9473
Smile confirmed for most loveable Cures.
Well, your image sums up several parts of the reason.
> Eyes: Smile eyes are subtly but distinctly different from each other
> hair: Very, very distinct and interesting without being too hard to draw
> Exploitability: Smile has lots and lots of things geared towards being misinterpreted in some lewd context.
Yea, this is interesting.
> fighting corrupted Mana never happened
BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY.
>the corruption had literally no reason to happen
Pretty much. I get that they wanted to show that even Cures have selfishness, but they should really have done more with it.
Eh, I really liked how crazy the fight was with the double team abuse and Proto being knocked off guard by the sonic boom of Mana flying upwards. It was simplistic though, so I understand where you're coming from.
スマイルプリキュア -黄瀬やよい -キュアピース -ウルフルン
(minus Yayoi, Peace, Wolfrun)
= 34977 results
Damn, I thought there was more.
i want to lick not-nagisa's salty eyebrows
>BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY.
- Never fought corrupted Mana.
- Never fought ULTRA-SUPER BEL.
- Regina didn't turn into Curegenine.
- A fairy didn't turn human just to distract Jikochump for that one precious second its mistress needed to recover.
- They didn't all get capes.
- They didn't kick Jikochump from Cure to Cure like an evil hackey-sack.
Hoshizora Miyuki 7759
Hino Akane 7110
Kise Yayoi 10436
Midorikawa Nao 9321
Aoki Reika 8371
Aida Mana 8027
Hishikawa Rikka 6135
Yotsuba Arisu 3571
Kenzaki Makoto 4182
Madoka Aguri 1918
Cure Ace 1281
Regina (Precure) 3495
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>Regina didn't turn into Cure Joker.
I wonder why Nao got so much?
The fight in 19 was fucking brutal too.
sakura is not a nigger who steals cars and bikes mang
>- Regina didn't turn into Curegenine.
Well that was kind of a given and outside of the realm of possibility but seeing her in the team in the epilogue kind of helped.
>- A fairy didn't turn human just to distract Jikochump for that one precious second its mistress needed to recover.
>- They didn't all get capes.
Would have been nice.
>- They didn't kick Jikochump from Cure to Cure like an evil hackey-sack.
>- Never fought ULTRA-SUPER BEL.
>- Never fought corrupted Mana.
All of my hate.
>Dat Yayoi not screaming during the Pizzu Tondah
There are a lot of Naofags on Pixiv.
Which is good for me because she's my favorite Smile.
Off the top of my head:
>a green Cure
>a particular personality
>a non-pink Cure getting shipped with literally everyone
I too didn't expect Smile's cast to turn out so even with the fanart. It must be one of the better Precure cast overall.
>>- Never fought corrupted Mana.
Easily the funniest part of the episode. Mana just came back after the commercials being all like "Yeah my heart can fix itself".
Fucking Toei and their bullshit.
Wasn't that clone Sakura? The first time.
So much focus on Mana was not nice., but overall I quite liked the ending. Especially the epilogue. Since Doki team continues to do Precure stuff even after defeating the nemesis. Usually it's left ambiguous.
And this "I'm totally live interest" dude didn't appear in it.
A fucking satellite falling down just because. That's hardly Precure stuff.
Well, I actually enjoyed Dokidoki for the most part and thought that ending was pretty good. It was nice to see them acknowledge the events of the final fight and see that the world changed afterwards, even if none of it will matter again. It was very different from something like Heartcatch's more sombre "well, how do we move on after all THAT".
Was it just me or was the animation quality in the last few episodes downright dreadful though?
Saving the world is Precure stuff. Not every cure follows in Flower's footsteps.
Final proof Mana's a cyborg. She just reboots her heart into last known good configuration.
Saving the day as Precure is Precure stuff.
Americans would've just shot a missile at it, but Japan's all "Fuck no, we've got half a dozen teenage girls to throw at it!"
Americans would have sent their local super heroes. Which might or might not wear capes and might or might not wear pants.
>Easily the funniest part of the episode. Mana just came back after the commercials being all like "Yeah my heart can fix itself".
WHEN EVERYONE WAS ALREADY PRIMED AND READY TO GIVE HER SUPPORT.
BUT NO, BEST LET THEM CRY USELESSLY.
Really, why couldn't it have been like in the Smile movie where everyon'e EGAOs and AIs and GANBAREs revive AND power her up? I mean fuck, Ace could have just done her job lel and told Regina to use the spear so they can MAMORU everyone's KIBOUs. Afterwards Mana would just have gone super state by drawing power as per protocol and everything would have been much better.
Not!Love interest kun needed more screentime. It was refreshing seeing him go ONORE, SEITOKAICHO, and it would have made it more interesting seeing him cheer her on in the end.
>Was it just me or was the animation quality in the last few episodes downright dreadful though?
Somewhere after the third part they just kind of... lost it.
Well, animation quality, animation direction and art direction just kind of let up.
...wait. Maybe because that was done when the Philippines were buttfucked by that earthquake?
Cure popularity poll, calculated from Pixiv pics, Twitter mentions and Google searches. I hope you guys can read katakana.
Things like this are exactly why Precure is best watched live. Mana gets zapped, zapped, ZAPPED, HEART POPS OUT SHIT COMMERICIAL BREAK WAT and the thread was goddamn wild for three minutes, until suddenly NOPE and the thread goes even wilder. It's a great experience.
>An unidentified and aloof Pretty Cure who helps the weak and has a strong sense of justice and a gentleness when she consoles people. With her sense of duty as a Cure and her excellent fighting skills, she goes on her own to bring down Queen Mirage and the Saiarks one by one.
>Lovely and Princess trying to protect a town from a Saiark early on
>getting their asses handed to them, character of the day (has to be a child) about to get stomped on or some shit
>Fortune saves the day, beats the Saiark easily
>Lovely asks for a team up
>Fortune says she's too weak to help and should just go home
>every few episodes get short cuts to Fortune destroying Saiarks as she makes her way to Queen Mirage's territory
>Team Lovely eventually decides to take the initiative as well and arrive in front of Queen Mirage's gates
>Fortune: "I'll be the one to destroy the Phantom Empire. If you really think you three are strong enough to take on Queen Mirage, then show me your resolve."
>cue Cure vs Cure brawl
>Queen Mirage attacks and interrupts the fight
>everyone is too exhausted to fight back, get their collective asses handed to them
>Fortune forced to retreat with Team Lovely and reluctantly becomes the fourth HaCha
Every thread until I get tired of reposting it.
There were a lot of bad far away shots, yes, if that's what you mean.
>Nice of them to acknowledge the events of the final fight
Yes, this. It would have felt off if everything went simply went back to normal. Otherwise, everything would have felt meaningless since Proto will resurrect again. At the very least, when he does, it'll be a radically different world.
Echo being higher than Egret and Bloom angers me
Japan is a confusing place. How is it that they always get the top right, but the bottom so horribly wrong?
Bloom and Egret are dead lat, as expected.
Regina becoming a Cure for the finale would have had bigger impact than Mana's super mode, it's a shame they didn't do that, but I guess they didn't feel like designing a new one when they won't be able to sell toys around her.
By the way, here is where I got the picture: http://prehyou.blog.so-net.ne.jp/ This blog has all kinds of Precure statistics, my autism can't be more pleased.
Peace is top as expected, but Heart is number 2. Either that, or she has a shit ton of negative tweets.
Eh, 12/38 isn't so bad.
> For millennia, the Yotsuba Corporation has stood watch against the darkness
> The Chairwoman's Law has told us that we should expect the return of The Selfish, but we were still surprised when our satellites picked up signals from the edge of our solar system
Cue SCIENCE Cure and glorious superhero shenanigans.
I hope they put up the Three Sacred Treasures at least. As collector items and therefore utterly retarded in terms of pricing but... dayum Toei, give us SOMETHING.
Or it happens.
that thing has a glorious mustashe
>dayum Toei, give us SOMETHING.
Well, there's at least the Figuarts. Heart is coming in May and Regina will almost certainly be next, with the rest probably following as exclusives.
>Or it happens.
My predictions never happen. Really, I should have been rooting for Regina to never become a Cure. Probably would have upped the chances of her actually becoming one.
The dokis just get a lot of tweets and google searches because it's airing currently.
I'd say only pixiv is more accurate than all three.
Whoa there, way to be pessimist!
> Regina Figurarts
Well, I hope...
One of these days I'll commission an artisan to make a high-quality Precure item replica.
We're getting closer and closer to HaCha.
I want to rape Yayoi while I watch Hacha.
ARE YOU EXCITED? I am excited.
Princess civvie hair colour a SHIT. Unless the NS3 preview was done on the first day they started animating.
Not if I rape you first.
Why are they hiding stuff about her if she is going to be there right from the start?
To bikkuri you
They are probably underplaying her since they won't have Honey toys and merch until a couple months after the show starts. I wouldn't expect any tweest with her other than the usual new member antics.
So most cures are 中二 students, right?
What if no season actually happened and all are, instead, chuunibyou delusions?
do it elsewhere please
Holy fuck the suffering is delicious.
I sure hope this keeps up.
It does, all the way to the end.
I want to know who animated this, and if we will see any suffering in HaCha.
Does anyone have the link to a video of little girl crying because Regina didn't become Cure Ace
She didn't cry. She just pouted a bit and then asked who Ace was.
Eh, can't be bothered to care right now. It'll be a while until I come to terms with Doki being over...
He's there, completely upset because Mana won't greet him every morning again.
is Jun a member of the student council or is he the new president?
Supposedly, new president. Mana is in third year now, exams and stuff make it mandatory that she drops presidency.
Why did Toei even bring him out of background for last 2 episodes? To reference the movie? Since he's basically 4th layer character in anime itself.
What does this say?
Something about "sucking" or "being sucked".
This is just odd. Why are there boys in the precurebu?
4 colours, 4 people.
First male Cure?
Well, second, after Ban-kun.
What is this even covering? These towels are really short.
He wants to be the little girl. Typical anon self insert.
You only need to cover the important bits, the thighs won't upset any mothers.
They have really long legs compared to their body.
Now that I think about it, Jun can't bring himself to scold Regina because she cuts him mid-sentence and then bullies him would be cute as fuck.
Maybe. Supposedly, Diamond Blizzard and Marie-Ange named Cure Sword are from the movie too.
Also, Mana needs an implied love interest to balance her yuri side.
He's going to be slightly relevant?
Why are they eating colored vaginas?
That is such an unflattering frame to grab.
He's Honey's step-brother.
It was deliberate.
Both of them will only be slightly relevant.
any chance that we will be seeing legacy cards in happiness charge?
transform to your favorite past cures is a kinda cool way to celebrate the 10th anniversary of precure
or at least make it happen in new stage 3
even kamen rider gaim movie is doing it
We've already seen some Doki cards, so that's exactly what we're expecting. ONORE DECADE
I found Heart!
But she already has quite-a-bit-more-than implied love interest. All the "Regina this, Regina that". And it was actually requited.
No, there might be some in the merch but in the show it wouldn't make any sense.
An implied hetero love interest. I totally forgot Mana is bisexual.
i hope the guy in the hacha website (the one who was some girls childhood friend and master of martial arts) will become the hacha's martial arts teacher when they find themselves having a hard time with their motw
Hacha can't start soon enough. My dick is super ready.
Sentai gifs out of context are the best.
Holy shit these are hilarious.
On a side note, /pc/. What Kamen Rider series should I start with?
Depends on what you like really. But generally people recommend W(Double in Japanese), Kabuto or Kuuga.
Kamen Rider, Amazon, Stronger, and Black.
Kuuga, Ryuki, W, basically everything that's not Kiva or Wizard.
Gaim as it's currently airing and not too far in.
If you're planning on just grabbing a batch and marathoning something then I would recommend W.
If you're thinking Showa, just start with the original.
Reminds me of the part in Fourze where Gentarou dies and everyone works together to revive him. Something like that would have been a billion times better and would be a lot more touching. Dark Mana would have been the coolest thing but yeah.
The chat in the stream was going wild.
I still want to lick whipped cream of Kanade's naked body.
Looks like I've got some work to do. Thanks, /pc/.
Go to /krg/ on /m/ for more details.
Cure Heart x KR Wizard OTP
Not this shit again.
If anything she's upset that Regina was being turned evil again, the part where she almost cried. Ace was just confusion and says she's cute and cool at the end.
真・プリキュアオールスターズ Ultimate Stage
Who won the Mana?
Going by epilogue, Regina. As if anyone thought otherwise.
>Her image color is yellow.
>The third Precure.
>Megumi's friend and classmate.
>She has this snuggly and fluffy atmosphere about her; she is a soothing personality that calms her surrounding.
>When Megumi and Hime quarrel, she goes between them and calms them.
>She is serenity and magnanimity personified.
>Her home is a lunch store (bento-ya), so she loves eating and making food.
>Saying "Food is the source of happiness" like a meddlesome aunt, she urges any child that feels down to eat something.
>"When you're hungry, delicious food gets even more delicious". With this as her reason, she does various exercises such as running at her own pace.
>After accidentally witnessing Megumi and Hime's transformation, she becomes a Precure herself.
>"Without peace, food cannot be enjoyed slowly and deliciously."
>While her origin was a result of chance, she fights the Saiark with this strong conviction.
>Also saying that "Eating means receiving life, so nature is very important!", she gladly helps Gaia, the god of all living beings.
>Eating means receiving life, so nature is very important!
the new cure fat?
Even Toei is encouraging fat acceptance.
>She has this snuggly and fluffy atmosphere about her
I want to lie down on her fat folds.
Jesus christ, she is all about food.
Time to continue with Suite.
She's like my deceased grandma reincarneted as a Cure.
>Food is happiness
>soothing personality that calms her surrounding
>fluffy and snuggly atmosphere
Hands off, I think I found my waifu
Everyone Wins. The End.
So she's like Chie?
Fortune is too similar to Lovely
When do you think they start working on the next precure series? At the start of the previous season? In the middle?
I ask because Smile was the 2012 series. If they were working on it since early 2011, that might help explain the lack of much real substance to it.
>she loves eating and making food
>Food is the source of happiness
>When you're hungry, delicious food gets even more delicious
>Without peace, food cannot be enjoyed slowly and deliciously.
>Eating means receiving life, so nature is very important!
Cure Fat confirmed
You mean Doki.
Doki's a massive pile of wasted potential and regret.
Oh this is going to be fun.
I'm also imagining her in a Snickers commercial now.
>"You're not you when you're hungry"
Yuuko's Work Style
It's a work full of dreams where you create sweets such as cute, delicious cakes and cookies!
>having plot that looks like what someone comes up in 2 days
>having characters that do not have relevance
There's no potential only regret.
It should be illegal for girls to be as qt as the Suites.
Hey now, she does seem to work out to keep on being slim.
She's even got a cheerleader form.
Smile is like a sponge cake with out any toppings. Simple, Sweet, but not much to it. Doki is like a huge cheesecake platter. Rich, filling, varied, but you eat too much and it makes you sick.
Just shortly before a new season airs.
Like, HaCha is about to start, so you can be certain they've already started work for the next season.
At most they have concepts, we're talking pre-pre-production. But no serious work will start for a while.
Yuuko and Pierre working together when?
Heh, I get it.
Her last name, Oomori/大森 means Large Forest
But Oomori/大盛り refers to a large serving (of food)
Man where's the rest of this booklet
When Jounichi stops sucking up
I can already see the fanart.
Does honey taste good on durians?
W started planning and design before Decade had even started airing. Toei works very ahead of schedule.
Anything heisei, though I'd personally recommend to just watch them chronologically and see how the series evolved over the years. If you're a bad enough dude to dive right into showa, go for the first one, then V3 then Black and RX. But everything in between is great as well. Especially Amazon. Watch that to see what this franchise did with the lowest of budgets.
Gaia? Where's Blue?
What if she's Lovely's long lost sister? We will finally have sister cures.
Holy fuck, Doki side characters, that's deep.
Holy shit Seiji is so fucking cute. And black gakuran is my fetish, I don't know if I'll be able to handle HaCha.
Oh I'm sure it varies among series. But you don't sit on your ass at the design phase for 9 months. These aren't animated or voiced in advance. Suite was even delayed.
why did they name her Fortune when she's an edgy purple? Those are never fortunate. I am sure they are planning to shit on her harder then they did on Makoto
Of course they don't start animating in advance or something like that.
But TOEI really does start with the earliest of stuff a year ahead.
I started with Fourze and went into again with a gross misunderstanding. Do the same so I don't feel stupid.
>Pierre x Honey fanart
Went into Gaim* blasted phone.
I got that from Futaba.
Pre-production is as detailed as getting cast, directors, and setting the script/storyboards. The ideas and general story are what come before something is given the green light.
Right, they don't sit on their ass, there is a lot of things to do besides drawing and voices. Bandai has to prepare an entire new toyline in one year, and that shit takes time to get right. That's what takes longer and why they start early.
She doesn't seem that edgy. She sort of seems like Yuri before she got her shit kicked in and her fairy blasted. Remember that edgy purples are characterized by going through awful shit and we don't know yet if Purple went through any.
What the hell Nadja is doing in precure?
If everything seems Nadja in Hapicha, remember, chief animator for Nadja is doing character designs on this.
The merch aren't as complex as you're making it sound. There are a few items that are special like the transformation ones, but even those are good to go after the designs are set. They don't start production of toys in January and sit on them until November comes. There's plenty of merch that also trickles out as the show goes on.
The biggest thing to think about though is that the people making it aren't the same people making the show. Sure the companies work together but when it comes to pumping out plastic they have people doing that full time in dedicated factories. You'd be surprised how quickly you go from design to reality when you own manufacturing.
I really hope they use the disguise aspect as much as possible.
Traditional magical girl hijinks, yes please.
What does that mean?
All their last names contain numbers like 2-10, 100
>MFW they bring back nadja's episode opening speech
>Long long time ago, there was a country named blue sky....
Pretty sure it's always like that, like Suite's side characters who were named Prince, Knight, etc.
I thought her facial expression was "I've seen some shit, so I am angry"
You're just looking for it too hard.
The only bloody aspect of Precure I cannot stomach to this day.
I dunno, it can be pretty charming.
>He doesn't appreciate the kigs
Confirmed for merch, but hard to say about in show. I would love it if they were like those things in Xros Wars that summoned Digimon Spirits or whatever.
Numbers. Specifically, playing card's numbers (except Momota).
This also explains why Alice and Rikka feel more like "side characters" than the other Cures.
The process isn't that complicated, but getting the legal regulations, testing, approvals, technicalities, and other kinds of merch designs - it adds up. Point is, there are reasons to start early and they do start planning the next season as soon as one begins.
They start in May, actually. Can't quote a particular source, but I've seen producers talking about May.
They cropped Tomato's ZR in this. Zettai ni yurusanai!
Rikka felt like more of a main character than Makopi.
I am all in if the story had the big bad's daughter usurp her and become the new bitch queen.
Even better if she make the cures do the all the dirty jobs for her by pretending being their friends.
I just realized that Glasan is a pun on Sunglasses.
Sungla(sses) -> Glasun
It's not a pun, it's a widely used slang wasei-eigo for sunglasses.
Her name is literally Sunglasses.
And that's that.
Pretty heart-warming ending.
10/10 it was ok.
>Pretty heart-warming ending.
The rest were left to freeze.
>SMB 2 was originally Doki Doki Panic in Japan
>Regina in the final scene
>passion speaks in NS2
>None of the other freshes do
Being a freshfag is suffering
Echo's for NS2?
The big X means they can't appear because the character didn't exist yet
Echo's small X means she could have appeared in NS2, but didn't.
Well. Time for dumb rankings.
SS > Heartcatch > Fresh > Yes5 = Smile > Suite > GoGo > FW/MH > Doki
SS > Suite > Fresh > MH > Yes5 > Smile > Heartcatch > GoGo > Doki > FW
SS = Heartcatch = Fresh > Smile > Suite > Yes5 = GoGo = Doki > FW/MH
Tsubomi > Love > Miyuki > Saki > Nozomi > Hibiki > Nagisa > Mana
>permanent portal between Trump Kingdom and Earth
How long until a hundred million tons of DEMOCRACY come knocking in?
>the most original Mahou Shoujo lead
>I hate Doki so goddamn much
>Passion helping Dark
Why can't she get a good ending. Why must being Yuri be so much suffering?
Jesus christ, how many finishers do these girls get?
It's only episode 16 and they're on their third or fourth.
Erika, what are you doing?
You're no Kamen Rider.
>Why are these girls getting new and actually good stock footage? Please stop it Toei! Stop doing something good for once!
She's not bad. It's just that she's not as good as the others. Mana is the only one who is actually bad.
Nozomi is lower because of GoGo. The sequel doesn't do her any favors.
Well it's bad too.
Enjoy the finishers while Kanade still jumps
Cherish those joyful moments in your heart for they are numbered.
>Mana is the only one who is actually bad.
Because she didn't spend several episodes moping over stupid shit?
It's not a bad thing.
It's just unusual.
Is Suite your favorite?
> But as it happened, the corruption had literally no reason to happen.
BUT HOW ELSE WOULD YOU KNOW HOW SUPER DUPER AWESOME AND COOL MANA IS?!
Nozomi is the greatest leader of the Precureverse
Your personal opinions won't change facts
It's universally agreed that if there's something Suite did excellently was the stock footage. You don't have to be a Suitefag to recognize that.
A lot, and that's why i love Suite
No she's just a terribly written character.
Well, I haven't seen suite before.
As a Freshfag, I'm slightly jealous.
>Those .jpg artifacts
...somehow this doesn't feel funny when I am about to fail my exam tomorrow
Erika had bad influence on me
Mana might be my favorite MC since Nagisa
what's wrong with me
I miss him.
>when I am about to fail my exam tomorrow
You are still on time to study.
You like badly written screentime hogs?
You should go watch Daigo Sentai, you'll cream yourself during Carnival's debuts and the sub-sequent episodes where Daigo hijacks other people focus episodes.
I don't see anything wrong. She's cute and fun.
>>101035207 This. You can still do something after an epic cram session.
Mana isn't Ako, though
Of course, being a good speed reader/skimmer helps a lot.
I honestly love Mana, but you're insane if you think Ako has more screen time than her.
Which Precure season have the best Kigurumi ?
Your shit taste aside >both Michiru and Kaoru in that image
I meant show hijacking later
W-wait a minute, is that Fourze's rocket?
Goodbye, you charming creep.
Where in the hell did Erika get Fourze's Rocket fist?
You are not alone. Was actually wondering if I was the only one now that you mention it, considering all the hate the series is getting.
It's ok though, Ako a cute.
She asked, duh.
I've got to say, I'm not too sad about leaving Jpe. He didn't look very good with that terrible hat and gay apron and ugly as sin haircut.
This nearly bishonen-less season leaves me fully charged for Blue's arrival, he's going to be fabulous.
You're not bitter.
Does this look like the face of someone who's bitter?
I wonder what it's like to live in a world where Precure is commonplace.
"One day, your daughter might just get conscripted into life-long servitude as the warrior of light, so try not to bring her up too kindhearted"
Eh, it's because it just ended with such a controversial final battle. It'll pass since even the Smile hate that left Smile threads a wasteland managed to die down.
For the record, I also agree even if I thought that pandering was a bit much in the final episode.
If we believe Joe, then Precure with the power of the Big Bang should be pretty common. I'd estimate about 1 in 1000. That's still 1000 if there are 1 million Precure.
I guess another thing is Halloweens where one in every three girls dress up as their favorite Cure.
Mana worst Cure.
Thinking about it, by far the two most popular cures seem to be Erika and Yayoi. So why is Erika such an interesting and diverse character and Yayoi nothing but pure pandering? There's a ton of depth to the former, a unique personality and a ton of characterization, that the latter lacks. Put it this way. If you wrote it so that Erika was interested in Toku and Mecha, and Yayoi in fashion, Pissu would lose all her fans nearly instantly but Erika wouldn't budge.
I don't think it's possible for me to be more charged.
Which is a little depressing, I guess.
Why wouldn't you want your daughter to become a Precure?
I want to pinch her chin blubber.
Nothing. Mana was a fine character with unusual flaws and unusual strengths.
I'm kind of sad the episode 49 writing wasn't better, but whatever.
Do you really want your daughter fighting villains on a poofy dress and beamspamming all over the place?
I want to rub that chin
and her legs
>Do you really want your daughter fighting villains on a poofy dress and beamspamming all over the place?
She would make papa proud.
That was actually my problem. It didn't say anything about that. There was no reason given that she overcame the corruption as a result of anything she did.
It could have been done the exact same way and been fine if there was a hint of effort on her part, but as it was, it ruined quite a bit of character development.
Until then, Mana was ultra competent as a result of hard work paying off. Now it's paid off too much for it to be believable.
Niqqa let me help you. You seem confused.
Smile > HC > Suite > Fresh > Yes5 > Doki > Fw > GoGo > MH
They all suck either because of poor writing or because a good season ended. You can't prove me wrong.
The rest is irrelevant and b8 material.
>Smile at the top
Erika and Yayoi are popular for completely different reasons
After Max Heart, no one wanted another second season or a series to continue longer than welcome, so "because a good series was ending" didn't apply to SS.
SS also had the best ending.
Smile was a fun as fuck season, even if the ending was Doki-tier bad. Or is Doki Smile-tier bad?
Either way, save this for future use. I'm sure it'll come in handy in the next few weeks especially.
>They all suck
SS, Fresh and HC were all good endings
Also I realized I forgot Splash Star. Just like Toei.
What? Animation-wise, sure, but other than that, it was terrible.
Hello fellow Smilefag
I want to touch her pigtails
There was really nothing wrong with it other than Dune being a shit but that was long established
In my fantasy alternate reality where the rest of the cures had to fight Proto Jikochuu and Jikochuu Mana, even for a short amount of time, even if her eventual being rescued results in the same content afterwards:
Overall: SS > Heartcatch > Doki > Suite > Futari Wa > Fresh > Yes 5/GoGo > Smile >Max Heart
Finales: SS > Doki > Fresh >Suite > Yes5 > Futari Wa/Max Heart > Heartcatch > Smile
Leads: Saki > Hibiki > Mana > Tsubomi > Nozomi > Love > Nagisa > Miyuki
Overall: SS > Heartcatch > Suite > Futari Wa > Doki > Fresh Yes5/GoGo > Smile > Max Heart
Finales: SS > Fresh > Suite > Yes5 > FutariWa/Max Heart > Heartcatch > Doki > Smile
Leads: Saki > Hibiki Tsubomi > Nozomi > Mana > Love > Nagisa > Miyuki
Doki's and Smile's endings are very comparable in what actually happened. One of the cures doing all the work while the rest stand back. The difference is in how justified it was being centered on that particular cure, making Doki's ending a little less stupid than Smile's
I bet marathonfags won't be as upset about Mana stealing episode 49's spotlight.
I just re-watched 48 (because 48 >>> 49) and the team focus in 48 was great.
Also I do love Mana but even I dislike how only she got a Pantheon power-up.
If it was only that, I wouldn't complain as much, but Yuri's plot points all getting rushed was a big minus.
>you will never watch HC 48 again for the first time
>you will never watch Smile 23 again for the first time
>you will never watch Doki 21 again for the first time
If everyone gotten a power up, then I wouldn't be as mad.
What do Heartcatch and Doki have in common?
It's all about yuri.
Good thing I haven't watched any of those yet.
>you will never watch HC 34 or 39 for the first time again
>Seekun watches Max Heart.png
Did you even watch the show? Or do you believe that everything must be stated explicitly for it to exist?
This must be the manzai episode. You can tell by Reika having the correct reaction.
If there's one thing I hope Toei does in the Third Impact, is never have another manzai episode ever again.
At least Smile's manzai episode starred that one comedian that really really loves Precure
I really hope NS3 mixes up old songs in the dance ED like the DX movies did.
It would've been nice to see those dresses in the show.
They were addressed, yes, but my complaint was that they were rushed.
>I AM YOUR FATHER
>OH, BY THE WAY, YOU JUST KILLED MY DAUGHTER FIGURE!
>SEE YA ON THE OTHER SIDE!
Even in the last episode, Alice still let's the viewers know she's watching.
She probably bribed the writers into keeping the portal open and letting the influence of capitalism engulf the magical world.
If only she could bribe the writers into giving her more screentime.
Why get screentime when she could gain a whole market all to herself?
This, I want the DX3 ED with doki level CG.
Mana begins her ascent at 12:33. She's next seen in space at 12:55. It took her 22 seconds to breach the atmosphere.
Any /sci/entists know how fast she flew?
New Stage movies have always done the previous season ED dance with all the cures instead.
not all one cut
moon landing was fake
time is an illusion
Just like your dick, nerd.
I know NS has used the current seasons dance, but it's going to be the last all stars movie so why not do something big?
>time is an illusion
All Stars will continue with another monicker in the future.
The last New Stage movie. The end of the epic trilogy of movies documenting the saga of that girl and two fairies that you don't about.
I'm pretty sure she was still in the stratosphere. The Earth still looked pretty big from that high up.
Just give it up already.
There /will/ be manzai.
Lets assume she got to the level of the ISS, for ease of calculation.
The ISS floats at about 423.5 km above the earth.
If she got that high in 22 seconds, she's traveling at an average speed of 19.25 km per second.
The speed of sound is 343.2 meters per second.
That divides out to about 56.1
Parthenon mode Cure Heart can jump at mach 56
Doki only had one small Manzai scene. Y5 and HC didn't have Manzai episodes either, I think.
THERE'S A PATTERN
>One of the cures doing all the work while the rest stand back.
What is the highest mach a man made object managed to achieve?
SS technically had a Manzai character arc.
>I wish I had someone to hug me right now
>maybe the lolis that were originally my girlfriend
>or that baby I was just holding
>maybe I should just go
But Splash Star was the worst of all from a Manzai perspective. Stupid Kenta-kun. I wish I could punch him right in his unfunny face.
Don't be sad, Joe. You get to hug democracy now.
All while Yotsuba Corp slowly establishes an economic foothold, eventually being the cornerstone of the Trump Kingdom's GDP.
Joe is but a puppet ruler.
I want to shake the hand of the jap that came up with this.
Obligatory show rating: Not my favorite, I really liked it, it was very consistent in its absurdity even during its lowpoints, and by low points I mean pacing HOLY SHIT THE PACING.
16.26 km per second seems to be the fastest speed according to Wikipedia after some conversion, and that's a rocket right after launch.
Of course. Where do you think he got the money to fund his campaign?
You can't say "pacing" without "Ace".
For comparison, a bullet travels at about 400m/s
mana is moving at over 48 times bullet speed
NASA's Juno spacecraft hit 140013 km per hour during a gravitational slingshot maneuver.
that divides out to 38892.5 meters per second.
Mana is traveling at about half the speed of the fastest we've ever made something move.
The earth is 40075 km in circumfrence at the equator. Mana jumps at 69300 km/h. That's less than an hour to go all the way around the earth.
Rosetta Balloon 2 made up for a lot of lost Alice time.
Imagine Mana using this speed while riding you.
It slowed down, but it was still pretty fast. Some marathoners might not even notice it.
So.. why is she this again?
>I want to shake the hand of the jap that came up with this.
That line made me realize that Mana is captain Kirk.
Other than Athena, I got nothing. Well, it's a government building too, so there's that.
Why is she in a washing machine?
Ayup. It was the kind of FUCK YOU BECAUSE MAGIC wacky glory I'd like to see more.
A-as expected of the student council president.
Hibiki x Mana doing GAR things should be a more common subject in fanart.
It was retarded but brilliantly so because IT'S TRUE.
She's more of a Captain Planet kind of deal, really.
are you me?
I imagine Athena's all there really is to it. It's slightly more interesting than literally calling it Goddess Heart.
Precure game where you can make your own cure when?
>It's slightly more interesting than literally calling it Goddess Heart.
Heart of God
Proto-Jikochuu died from heart attack.
She made Cure Miki.
You are in the washing machine.
He said he was suddenly elected.
There was no campaign.
He's eady to manipulate, that's why Alice made sure that he would be elected.
Except none of those really describe what they were going for.
He also threw up in his mouth a bit right before.
Precure by a KID writer when?
Nasu Precure when?
Shit would be more addicting than Kancolle, Pokemon and Barcode Kanojo combined.
People would literally die playing it.
...and eat it.
They were going for decaying ruin on a hill in a bankrupt nation of has-been philosophers?
If not, then explain whatever you think your point might be.
I-is that a thing?
Isn't it enough to have a little girl with crayons in the animation team?
Yes, there's an app that will turn barcodes into waifus.
It is VERY MUCH a thing, good anon. You scan products, it generates a waifu, you hope said waifu has not been generated yet.
OR you NTR the person who has the waifu via affection points..
Never7 doesn't seem so bad...
>Reading through this
>they're talking about totally not Heartcatch
>I'm going to dismiss hundreds of years of history because I watch the news.
I don't feel the need to explain myself to some culturally retarded asstrumpet who thinks he's clever. If you can't make even the most basic connections then you really need to fucking kill yourself.
>I cannot explain my argument so I'll just insult her, that always works on little girls.
You have lost your love, anonymous.
Precure mindraping the final boss eva style should happen more often.
I wanted to complain at you two about arguing about this, but then I realized that I was applying science to Precure not even an hour ago.
Did DokiDoki have a Manzai episode? When?
I love fucking Rikka so much.
And fucking all of you as well!
IT ALL RETURNS TO NOTHING
One scene in a Regina episode. I believe it's the one where she harassed Mana and had that soda Jikochuu.
>SMB 2 was later Super Mario Bros USA in Japan
She appeared. Briefly. In front of Panpaka Pan
Why is Cure Honey's VA such a secret?
That axe kick was fantastic. I was expecting a standard Rider kick, but Dokidoki always exceeds expectations.
Because she's totally not Oomura Yuuko
Damnit, a great pun came to my head but I forgot it when readint the replices.
She actually moved so fast she was in 7 places at once.
I'm sure that mach 56 jump was not her max speed, she just jumped to where the bad guy was kicked to.
Fine, you win. The Parthenon is literally named after Athena. It comes from one of her epithets. One of many, in fact. Athena is known as a maiden warrior and defender. In fact, one of her aforementioned epithets was "the unwearying". Rather apt for the Precure of Fortitude.
It has very specific connotations and I don't see how they could have chosen it over other, simpler terms (like the examples given) if they weren't making a reference.
So is Mana the most mary-sueish main of all Precure as of now?
Parthenon =/= Pantheon
For fuck's sake.
Pantheon means "House of gods" or "Collection of gods." Mana is infused with the will of other cures and people, and embodies all their spirit, hence, Pantheon.
Not Parthenon. That's the temple.
Yes. And also the strongest Cure ever.
Well, she still needs to borrow the powers of her fellow Cures and three mystical treasures brimming with power, but yes. As powerful as the Big Bang my ass, it took four girls and their fairies on their last thread to get that much power last time, and it was only a miniature version of it.
She says it at 11:24 in Commie's release.
It sounds like "Parthenon" to me.
Yeah I know, but Athena is not the only maiden warrior in all of the world's mythology, and DokiDoki wasn't particularly Greek Myth themed up until now, certainl not compared to the season which had Aphrodite as an explicit character.
Also Artemis is a better fit for the maiden with a bow, since the heart-bow toy is the Doki's weapon of choice.
I was going to make a joke about how Doki may seem Greek Myth themed given how gay it was, but it's too cheap as it is.
Also not enough little boys.
The captions say it's パルテノン/Parthenon
Pantheon would be パンテオン
At least the characters recognized this. Well up until that one other guy joined in.
From that wiki article linked it said the Parthenon was also used for Artemis.
Formchange Make-believe Attack!!
The offensive item of both Precures
Rest is something like: There are like 13 attacks & games, turn dial to select, it'll play show-accurate sfx Price still open
I think delving too deeply into it is rather futile. I'm sure there's more than a slight element of "It sort of fits and it sounds cool; let's use it" at work.
I should just hibernate until Sunday.
>yfw Yuuko is Seiji
Sure, he mastered an amazing art of being two people at once >>101022542
Can't you see?
He's imagining how it would be.
We've already eliminated that one anon
I wonder how much butthurt there was on Tumblr and other places when this finally got disproved, not that there was any need because it was obvious it will never happen, but you know how delusional that people is.
Ange managed four.
Denial is not only a river.
No anon, that's just Toei's trick.
>yfw Seiji is Honey and Yukko is a misdirection.
It would be a first, don't you think?
>mfw delicious tears and denial
They're not gonna do that
yfw you're a fucking idiot >>101024223
I want that smug motherfucker to be the Cure's training coach.
He is only training the Cures so he can get at their delicious Cure MILFs, and every mom is pregnant by season end.
They even called her "fluffy" in the character description.
With some luck she'll be as irrelevant as Buki was.
Please do not bully the Freshes.
Don't mock the strongest Fresh.
What's even going to be this girl character arc? Fortune will obviously be to mellow out or something like that, Princess to man the fuck up, Lovely to stop being a busybody, but her? I can't think of anything. That she needs to stop eating like a pig because she got diabetes or something?
But I'm not mocking Setsusa.
This is the new age of Precure. Where we're going, we don't need character arcs.
>What's even going to be this girl character arc?
Trying lose weight
I am going to fuck both Fortune and Honey
Introduce all the characters in the first episode, have 46 episodes of filler, then have a single episode final battle.
Fuck off Smile.
She'll be the anchor that holds the group together.
Between Hime's constant cowardice and Fortune's edge, Megumi will eventually step on some toes constantly getting in their grillpieces. Yuuko will always be there to support her best friend and rein the others back in.
That is until it's revealed she was Queen Mirage all along!
>She'll be the anchor that holds the group together.
Until she loses her head.
I want Mami to sit on my face.
>Suite spoilers in something tangentally related
... while she eats Kanade's cupcake.
>caring about spoilers for shit
I want to lick Mami's salty stump.
He said Suite, not Smile.
Shitposting is not okay.
Now I know you didn't just call one of the best seasons shit
He did not say Smile bub.
Bullies have no right to complain about bullying.
I want to spank Ako and send her to her room.
There hasn't been a good PreCure since HeartCatch.
How can people still call Smile the worst Precure season after an entire year of Doki?
Hopefully Happiness Charge breaks the streak.
There hasn't been bad Precure season since Doki
There hasn't been a Precure season since Doki.
Smile was the same but worse.
Hopefully Happiness Charge doesn't break the streak.
Smile doesn't have anything in common with Doki.
>worst season of Precure ended
>best season of Heisei Sentai about to end
We're at a crossroads.
Both series really only have "I liked the characters so I enjoyed it" going for them at this point.
Smile did that worse and had worse cures by far.
But Go-Busters aired a year ago.
Mana is objectively the worst cure of all time.
Atleast we'll have Gaim to balance it out..
>that preview for Gaim Jinba Lemon
I just hope Tokkyuger is good.
Why can't we have one thread without this pointless bitching?
All Cures are best
All seasons are best
People are allowed to have opinions
Where do you think you are?
captcha: committee lawst
An earnest round table discussion?
negative opinions are opinions too
>old Toei men discussing Precure.jpg
But bitching is what makes Precure threads good.
In the past weeks before the final episode aired, I was worried since the threads were quiet as fuck.
No, she had a terrible last episode. Miyuki is still worse, the rest of the smiles are still worse than the rest of the Dokis.
Toei isn't split into factions of old men jerking each other off under the table.
I finished Smile recently, it was unambitious and dragged on, not particularly amazing...except when it was AND HOLY SHIT IT WAS SOMETIMES.
Meanwhile Dokidoki starts out super ambitious, but its plot and pacing just fall apart mid-season. I feel like even if you were to marathon it, it wouldn't change much, as the story is constantly halted for 5 episodes SO EVERYONE CAN GET THEIR NEW POWER ONE EPISODE AT A TIME.
Which is fine if you do it once, Smile did it once for example, how many times did Dokidoki pull that? 3? 4?
That said, I still like both, Doki a deal more mind.
I wouldn't even bother with these threads if there wasn't pointless bitching.
Fuck off with your hugbox shit.
When you put it like that...
>being better than anyone
All the Smiles are perfect, fuck off faggot.
>not liking bitches
Ako is glorious. Ace is shit.
>Miyuki worse than mana
Because Doki had some great stuff and some people like it in spite of its flaws.
Just like Smile.
No, really. Miyuki was just a bad cure. She didn't try, she didn't grow, she didn't develop, and she didn't start competent. She was just a terrible hero. You have to be one of those four things to be a good hero and she did literally none.
Because it's fun. I'd rather be called a faggot than agree with everyone else.
>how many times did Dokidoki pull that? 3? 4?
Once. That's it. Initial attacks, Arrow attacks all at episode 11, then in the 30s they get them one by one. The jewels were better than Smile's endless decor, and the pad came at once with the attack to follow.
Don't blindly hate on things just because you didn't like them.
Eh, yeah. It wouldn't be as fun here if it weren't for the endless fighting. Its what makes this place so good for discussion. People aren't afraid to state their opinions on things.
I love you
Lighten up, Miyuki. You don't sound very ultra happy.
Go fuck yourself.
> She didn't try.
She's had some great moments where she fought for everyone else.
> She didn't grow.
I'll give you that.
> She didn't develop.
I'll give you that.
> She didn't start competent.
Manafag detected. It's more fun to watch Cures develop through their fighting. Compared the team from the first few episodes to the final battle (discarding the stupid crying).
>discarding the bit that I don't like, for no reason
She looks seriously pissed off.
I wonder who poured sand in her vagina.
Honoka started competent and stayed competent.
Love started competent and stayed competent.
Karen started competent and stayed competent.
Yuri started ultra-competent and stayed ultra-competent.
Mana's hardly the only competent cure.
She fought to protect everyone's happiness
Supports her friends
Wishes to bring everyone happiness
My kind of hero.
She's the hero we don't even deserve.
Now that's a cure that tried, grew, and developed, without starting competent. What Miyuki should have been.
That's like a dog saying "Woof"
I didn't like Suite all that much but god damn was Hummy fucking awesome sometimes.
Eh, I don't mind bickering, so long as it's backed up by reasoned debate. Stuff like this is great:
Low-effort garbage posts like "x is shit" is boring and doesn't really add anything to the threads.
She (does things literally every other cure in the franchise does)
My kind of hero too. If only it were unique to her she might have something interesting about her.
She's been fighting for years. For all we know, she was just as bad at fighting as Tsubomi when she was new to the job.
Hummy started out worryingly over-cute, grew into a force for awesome and did so without becoming less of a baka.
(t/l note: baka means "nyaa")
I know, she isn't really unique, and a poorly written character. Or at least not very well fleshed out, but the exact same can be said of Mana.
This (>>101049321) is just me sprouting OPINIONS, I just love Miyuki she is too cute.
I remember when she sung for Siren, that's when I realized that Hummy become the best character ever.
>mfw she's the same seiyuu for Usagi
> those hips
Would make an ultra happy family with.
Speaking of Siren, is it just me, or did she become utter shit after she stopped being evil?
Well, I don't think she became shitty. I just think that her problem was resolved rather forcibly.
>"Come, Siren, be happy!"
>"Come, Siren, it's not your fault, just be happy!"
I felt that it hit close to home.
It's just you.
She became an easily embarrassed guitar dork with a very sexy body.
In my humble opinion, that's not worse.
Shame about the face and hair though.
I'll fucking fight you, faggot.
It's really hard to argue that the degree to which Mana and Miyuki were not fleshed out were the same.
With Mana, at least early on, there were mistakes, flaws, and difficulty interacting with other cures that she ironed out. With Miyuki, there was no such attempt by the writers to make her actions (or really, her lack of actions) have anything that resemble consequences.
but really, the problem with Miyuki is her lack of actions.
She's supposed to be obsessed with picture books? Why is there not a single early episode about her trying to draw one? Or learn about how their written? It's because Miyuki is an anti-protagonist. The kind of protagonist who just lets the story move around them and might as well not even be there, or could be substituted for other characters.
Mana had the opposite problem, being far too much of a protagonist. This is much better than the alternative.