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It's time.

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume9_Chapter_8#Part_5
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Nothing can stop the T
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>no Accel

Boring.
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>10,031

So was the "millions" thing just an exaggeration
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>>101009504
>Being an Accelfag
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>>101009818
>not being an Accelfag
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>>101009628
I don't think so, the 10,031 thing was only counting from the time when they had that conversation about how it's not a fight between him and her, it's a fight for Othinus to make her decision.

It "only" took 10,031 times since that point for her to finally miss an attack but it took countless other times for her to stop killing him long enough so they can have that uninterrupted conversation. That's how I interpret it anyway.
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>She was a Magic God, so the human lifespan did not necessarily apply. Ollerus had spoken as if he knew what he was talking about, but he was nothing more than a human. Even if he knew a thing or two about gods, he may not have understood the true scale of it all.

Funny how in just one volume, a guy can go from being pretty damn knowledgeable, to not knowing jack shit.
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>>101010045
He knew fuck all from the beginning.

Have a good laugh at all the "feel sorry" stuff about him before.
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>>101010045
He knows more than most humans.

It's only natural that a human cannot completely comprehend a god.
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>>101010045
>to not knowing jack shit
You are too harsh. What the text is saying is that the only thing he missed was the true scale of things. It's natural that a human cannot understand a god, that's the whole point of being a god, and the entire point of the Magic and Science side's goals to understand/"calculate" God.
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Christ, Touma actually weaponized his "point of view".
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>>101010546
His CHA is now the stuff of legends
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god bless you based js06!!!
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>Touma's managed to empathize with a god

If this were like Persona and there were stats for these sorts of thing, his Understanding would be through the roof.
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Guess this is gonna be the only update today, then.
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>>101010968
D-don't say that anon ;_; I can't handle all this waiting
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>>101010968
Daily reminder
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>>101011033
As usual, a pretty damn cruel trick. Nips really hate money.
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>>101011033
Still think it's a ruse till Spring Festival or April 10th/NT10.
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>>101011033
I just realized how Othinus is able to repeatedly bring Touma back to life every time.

She's taking advantage of the Imagine Breaker's "Touma" clause. By killing Touma and then perfectly reviving him immediately after, Imagine Breaker will always automatically return to him.
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I just realized how Othinus is able to repeatedly bring Touma back to life every time.

She's taking advantage of the Imagine Breaker's "Touma" clause. By killing Touma and then perfectly reviving him immediately after, Imagine Breaker will always automatically return to him
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>>101011348
>After the slightest hesitation, Othinus would wave her lance and return everything to the beginning before that light completely vanished from the pieces of flesh flying through the air.

She's not actually killing and reviving him, she's just getting REALLY close then repairing the damage.
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>>101011501
Even so, magic shouldn't work on him. So she's clearly reverting him while his right hand is severed. Its power simply returns to him on his own immediately after.
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>>101011501
It's like taking out Touma's HP to 0.00001 then reverting all damage.
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>>101011666
Possibly, but technically magic works fine on him until it spreads to his arm. She has enough accuracy to leave a bit of non-IB flesh on his arm then rebuild around that without touching it if she wanted to.
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I just noticed that every illustration in this volume is at least a two-page spread.

Guess something really clicked with Haimura.
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>>101012008
Can you do a 3 page spread?
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>>101012025
The non-cover color illustrations are three-page spreads.
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So /a/, should Index III air, would you want to hear pic related sing the theme songs again?
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>>101012135
As long as I've sound handles the production.
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>>101012135
If I had my way she'd be doing the OP of every show ever.
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>That was the cost of being unilaterally slaughtered more times than he could bother counting. If people’s hearts were visible, Kamijou’s would have been torn to pieces.

Dammit and he still doesn't give up after all of this.
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>>101012223
What about pic related then?
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Touma is a real human being, and a real fucking hero, god dammit.
He doesn't just weigh up numbers with a broken soul like some broken failure... he goes forward with all his soul to help the person who needs aid.
Just, I love him.
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What would break first

Touma's heart?

Or Index's stomach?
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>>101012468

Touma's heart of course.
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>>101012468
Touma's heart I guess but as this novel showed, you need to do something on a godly scale to even crack it. Index is a freaking black hole that can never be satisfied.
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>>101012451
>“I won’t say it’s for everyone’s sake. I’ve already rejected all the smiles I saw here and decided to return to my original place even if it means completely separating myself from everyone I know. Even if it takes decades to completely reconcile with them, I’ve given up on running from the pain. I’m not going to let myself chicken out just because I’m up against a god! I’ll do whatever it takes to have you choose my card!!”
>“All that’s left is a test of endurance. Let’s repeat this billions or even trillions of times. I’m returning to the original world. I won’t move on to the next world. The original world I’m talking about might be different from the original world you’re thinking of, but I’m going to force this through regardless. Do you understand, Othinus? I’m saying I’ll make my dream come true even if it crushes your dream!!”

Character development going through the roof... i like when he becomes selfish for the first time now. Everytime i read index from the beginning, touma always sacrifice hisself for other people. Now he fight for him self at the cost of a perfect world where everybody smile.
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>The only problem left was the integrity of my memories. I subconsciously refused to accept the pain and fear I felt, so I rearranged the memories in my head to look like a fight following a single path.

Seems like the perfect handwave to make it so that Touma won't actually become burdened by his deaths in all the iterations.
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>>101012717
And then he turns around and protects the very person who caused all his suffering.
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>>101012724
Doesn't seem to be a thing now. He was only able to do that the first hundred or thousand times. By this point, he's completely aware that he's been getting killed repeatedly.
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>>101012756
>>101012795


Plus at the end he does have all the memories just then he has no need to suppress them as the ride is over.
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>>101012756
Thats Touma`s innate Toumosity. He's going to make a god live her life correctly.
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>>101012596
Accel satisfied her, and the Anglican nuns actually OVERFED her.
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>>101012717
Will he cut his hair?
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>>101012756
Rather than that, it's look like they reached a mutual understanding. He protect her because othinus know that she is wrong and ready to throw away her own life.
Do anybody know why ollerus hate othinus very much? Looks like touma understand the god better than ollerus this time which in turn earn her favor.
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>>101012922
Whoa whoa whoa, Kamachi's not ready for such high level stuff. Leave the haircuts to Nisio.
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>>101012756
>And then he turns around and protects the very person who caused all his suffering.
>I’m saying I’ll make my dream come true even if it crushes your dream!
>I’m saying I’ll make my dream come true

Well, even Othinus herself is part of Touma's dream of everyone having a happy ending. The moment she stops trying to fuck with the world, she's just another innocent person Touma wants to protect just like with any other enemy Touma has had. The only change was to his dream where it used to be

I want everyone to have a happy ending no matter the cost to myself -> I want everyone to have a happy ending including myself.
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second Best Raildex singer coming through. Why are her songs so based?
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>>101012908
Source? i don't believe that's possible.

>>101012922
>Touma gives up on trying to impress girls and stops gelling his hair
The end times have vome
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>>101012981
>Do anybody know why ollerus hate othinus very much?
Butthurt because he thinks Othinus stole Magic God status from him even though it really was hers in the first place and just gave it up for a while.
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>>101013137

We are to blame for the misfortune due to us not living our lives.
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>>101012981
He had one shot to become a magic god (or at least he thinks he did) and Othinus "stole" it while he was rescuing a cat.
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>>101013176
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>>101013137
>However, calamity awaited Index as well in the form of the many Anglican nuns near the table lined with meat.
>“Oh, how nostalgic!! Do you remember me? It’s Rachel. We used to always play together. Oh, right. Do you want a Salisbury steak?”
>“Munch munch. Who are you and why are you pinching at my cheek?”
>“Heh heh heh. It looks like Rachel has completely forgotten that you lost your memories. I suppose you don’t remember me, but that’s fine. Are you as much of a glutton as ever? Here, do you want this food?”
>“Mgh!? I just ate a Salisbury steak!! Munch munch.”
>“Ahhh!! She’s so cute! She’s just too cute with food stuffed in her cheeks like that!! Here, eat my Salisbury steak, too!!”
>“…Ughh. I-I don’t think I need anymore…”
>The silver haired, green eyed nun spoke words that were very rarely heard from her. However, more Anglican nuns added to the clamors of “Me, too. Me, too!” “Eat mine, too!!” “Let me feed her, too!!”
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>>101013315
How horrifying.
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>>101013315
>“Munch munch. Who are you and why are you pinching at my cheek?”

For some reason, this line is just too adorable to me.
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>>101013315
It's food laced with magic or something. That's why it can fill up Index and not cost the church millions just to satisfy her.
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>>101013453
>Index
>adorable
I miss those rare moments.
Now she's just a hateful headcrab sucking away our poor Touman's joy.
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>>101013453
>adorable
Shes saying this to someone that might have been as close to her as Stiyl or Touma in the past. Kinda sad when you think about it.
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Oh man Touma is pretty screwed up after all these deaths.
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>>101013696
It's the same Touma as usual.
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The biggest issue I can see coming from this is the fact that Touma might develop too large a resistance to the idea of his own death. He was already pretty reckless to begin with, but he might get even worse from here on out...
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>>101013768
The opposite should happen now. He's been made to accept that his life has worth, so he's not going to be throwing it away anytime soon.
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After Fiamma and Othinus I gotta wonder how the next big bad is going to escalate things to compare. You cant really get much bigger than an actual God.
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>>101013955
Well. There is always THE god.
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>>101013955
>next
I wonder if there really will be.
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>>101013955
Aleister will be pretty much the final boss, I can't see the novels going further than that
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>>101014002
WW3 was just 1/3rd of the way through. We`re a long way off from an ending.
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>>101013955
>Final boss
>Touma busts into heaven and must take on the true forms of the archangels
>Their forms are incomprehensible and beyond human understanding
>Finally, he must confront the True Absolute God in the center circle of Heaven
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>>101013955

We go Lovecraft Mythos for the final arc
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>>101014060
Since when was that the case? Kamachi said at the end of WW3 that the series was halfway.
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Othinus is the best girl
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>>101011501
i guess it is similar to Himegami, her dead was already definitive but Touma still negated it. But if he would have waited just a few moments longer to touch her she would have been dead for real.
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So, how is deredere Othinus going to act? Will she preserve her "I'm the God, you little human" vibe, demand the T and step on Touma? Or maybe she will turn into cute, gentle kitten? Will she be an elegant and seductive woman, or a blushing little girl?
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>>101014190
>i guess it is similar to Himegami, her dead was already definitive but Touma still negated it
No. She was being kept "dead" by Ars Magna.
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>>101014236
read the LNs. if he waited just a few moments longer he would not be able to negate it any longer.
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>>101014207
Completely dere. That's what the afterward says. Prepare yourself.
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>>101014207
apparently she is no longer a god but a fairy.
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>>101014316
Remember, she's "losing" her power not "lost"
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>>101014316
She will always be my Goddess.
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>>101014316
So she pulls it back to just after Ollerus turns her into a fairy but before she turns him into one?
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...Wouldn't she stop turning into a fairy if Touma touches her once?
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>>101014442
She pulls it back when touma and his party confronted her for the first time. She was already a fairy when touma meet ther and she started to losing her power because of the stake that was embedded in her body by ollerus.
Basically before she used the spear to destroy the world.
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>>101014271
You read the LNs, and actually try to understand how the powers work. Aureolus' command for Himegami was simply "die". That means that Ars Magna enveloped her entire body and made her "dead". For the "suffocate" command, Touma had to actually reach into his throat to negate the Ars Magna effect.
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>>101014626
>She explains that the fairy spell and the lance have created an unstable state, that she is losing her powers as a magic god, that the stake Ollerus stabbed into her is tormenting her within her body, that not even destroying it with IB will heal it, and that the other Gremlin members will arrive to save her even if she is captured, so she plans to accept her death.
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>>101014755
Then he'll just have to give her the T.
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Touma was able to understand(calculate) God.

Touma is now level 6 if he can get rid of Imagine Breaker.
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>>101014285
>Everyday she will welcome him with a smile
>She will tenderly say his name
>She will cook delicious meals for him
>She will tell him how important he is for her and how much she loves him
>She will hold his hand
>She will comfort him and cuddle him
>She will rest his head on her lap and caress his hair
>Her beautiful smell will calm him

Too bad she will die soon
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>>101013955
Othinus wasn't really that big when you think about it.

Sure, she changed the world and could have thrown galaxies around like nothing, but she didn't. The damage she chose to do to Touma and the schoolyard during their fight is on par with what a saint or powered suit could do.
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>>101014442
Naw Iirc they rationalised it by saying she's still a magic god. If you're a fairy with 100% failure, you can do the opposite of what you'd normally do to achieve 100% success. Before the was limited to a 50/50 scenario.
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>>101014977
Well think about it, even if you have nuclear missiles, if you're aiming for one guy instead of a nation, you're not going to use the nuke. Even a normal missile would be overkill. That said, she did crush touma with the moon, so...
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>>101014977
...She dropped the fucking moon.
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What i fear is the next vol. From the perspective of index, mikoto and all of the people in that world, othinus is a enemy that they must defeat. They understand that touma should feel the same way, but if suddenly touma shielded the enemy that he should defeated, this will invited confusion on all people there.
>Touma feels her situation is unreasonable, so he prioritizes his own convenience and announces he will protect Othinus even if it makes the res of the world his enemy.

Mikoto and index will thought that touma is being brainwashed because it was out character for touma to prioritizes his own feeling at that moment and try to target othinus of course.
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>>101014980
Its funny how Touma predicted that happening and Ollerus completely disregarded it.
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>>101015099
It's like in Shana Final where Yuji suddenly sides with Bal Masque all over again.
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>>101015071
>>101015084
A ten meter moon.
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>>101013315
>Salisbury steak
HAMBAGAAA
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It doesn't look like my mind break fantasies are possible.

It really excites me to think of a mentally broken Touma sitting in a wheelchair clutching Othinus's cape in his lap, being pushed by a clone and Misaki to the park. His hair is no longer spiky. Biribiri sees him and gets starts getting hysterical and zappy, so the clone yells at her and drags her off.
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>>101015099
Good ol MISUNDERSTANDINGS, always there to fuck everything up.
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>>101015099
yeah i've been thinking the same thing.
It's going to be Touma, Othinus and Will-chan against the world.
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will-chan? she come back to the original world too?
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>>101015357
>Everything's over.
>However, Touma gave up everything to reach that point.
>By the end, he's nothing but an empty husk, barely even aware of his surroundings. He's physically alive and awake, but he may as well be catatonic.
>He spends his days in his hospital room, sitting in a wheelchair, looking out the window.
>Everyone visits him often, but he barely responds. He doesn't seem to really remember who or where he is.
>Perhaps it might be better for him this way.
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>>101015489
Why wouldn't she?
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>>101013955
>Aleister tries to mess with Invisible Thing
>Keikaku goes completely not doori
>Awaken Invisible Thing turns out to be the most insanely broken powerlevel
>It takes over Touma
>Kamijou Faction, Churches and AC are forced to fight it to save the world
>But they have to destroy Touma's body to accomplish that
>therideneverends.jpg
>It turns out Invisible Thing is so powerful, they can only barely defend themselves
>At the same time Touma's will struggles against Invisible Thing
>At the final moment he regains control over his body for a mere second
>He decides to sacrifice himself in order to save his friends, as he knows it his only chance
>Everyone is devastated and thinks Touma has died
>He quietly says "Don't cry, you guys..."
>They can't believe he is alive
>Everyone happy
>He gently smiles and says "...I just need to rest for a while"
>He closes his eyes
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>>101015979
It's raining
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>>101015979

>Finds Othinus
>stuck with her for eternity

Only good thing he might get.
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When this arc is over and Othinus is dead, it's the perfect time for Misaki to shine. Using her power she is the only one who can understand what Touma is really feeling. Kamachi has been teasing it for a while now.
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>>101016277

>Touma is broken and avoids people
>On a bench late at the evening alone depressed
>Misaki comes in to try and cheer him up
>Tells him a story of a certain boy she met long ago
>Finally gives us pre-amnesia Touma
>Touma thanks her and slightly smiles
>She stays there silently while he suffers
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>>101016277
>Misaki reads Touma's mind
>The information overload is too much for her
>She goes catatonic as a result
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>>101015099
Index would be able to tell if he was brainwashed by magic, and I think with the Misaka Network vouching for his story Mikoto would believe Touma as well. Everyone else, however? Now that will be interesting to see.
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>>101016277
I know she can write messages into his head, but can she actually read his thoughts? That telepath from before couldn't get through IB even when he wasn't trying to block her.
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>>101016400
Mental breakdown.
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>>101016581
That was an accident. He brushed her intangible telepathic wires with his right hand.
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>>101016581
It was explained that telepath powers use an invisible wire. She can if she can get the angle right. As a level 5 she might have more control over the path it takes.
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A girl can do horrific, terrible inhumane killings and tortures but if she has dere later, she's a lovable girl? But not only that, she's a magic god so she's the best girl on top of the dere.

Are you people serious?
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>>101016846

m8 we already love her. Also we like crazy chicks.
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>>101016846
But she smells nice.
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>>101016634
>>101016747

Ah, I see. Didn't notice that panel before.
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>>101016846

Anon, she smells nice. All wrongdoing is pardoned.
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>>101016846
>A girl can do horrific, terrible inhumane killings and tortures but if she has dere later, she's a lovable girl?
Yes, look at Accelerator
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>>101016846
Best girl is Segway-chan.
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>>101016846
I'm just following Touma in regards to her forgiveness. She's a girl who also suffered before and is in need of saving right now. Being dere at the end of it is just something extra.
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>>101016846
..To be fair, the only one she's explicitly inflicted those horrific, terrible inhumane killings and tortures on is Touma.
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>>101016952
Eh, people like Accelerator, but not as a good person or anything. He doesn't forgive himself and we shouldn't either.
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>>101017230
Speak for yourself
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>>101017230
Dude saved the world. He's earned some forgiveness.
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>>101015099
>boss rush is overwhelming and about to kill Othinus
>Mikoto suddenly stops charging her railgun
>the Will took control and turns her into Nuitsaka
>Birdway, Lessar, and Ollerus cough up blood as Kazakiri arrives and lands on Kakine
>a soldier laughs at him, enraging him even more than being squished
>SCIENCE ANGELS, SCIENCE ANGELS EVERYWHERE
>entire anti-Gremlin alliance in ruins after five minutes of "fighting"
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>>101017262
Cute and heartwarming that he cares and is tsundere for LO, but still cannot undo what he did.

>>101017297
He helped save the world. That earns him respect and some degree of forgiveness, it does not absolve him.
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>>101016846
It's all based on touma, if he forgives then she is forgiven.
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That feeling when the whole world and God are making every effort to ensure that would deny your very existence and refuse to recognize that they themselves no longer have any meaning.
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>>101017516
It doesn't have to fucking absolve him, that's not what forgiveness is. It's acceptance despite the wrongdoing, not ignoring that the wrongdoing exists.
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>>101017580
Tell that to Accelerator, anon.
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>>101017395
>yfw Will-chan is actually controlled by Crowley
>yfw he uses her to manipulate Touma and Accelerator
>yfw keikaku doori
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So... Maybe Crowley is trying to solve this infinity layers dilemma which Othinus can't handle? Why he bother with core world? I remember that his illusions already broken. What if his relationships with Aiwass are same to Touma and Othinus story?
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>>101017642
He knows. He's not doing all that he is thinking that it will offset his bad deeds, that they'll disappear if he does enough good deeds. He wants forgiveness but he doesn't expect absolution.
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>>101017642
Accel is a gloomy fuck that hates himself, hardly an unbiased judge.

Hell, do you think Touma forgives himself for destroying that perfect world? Even if it was Othinus fucking around, he still is essentially re-killing all those clones and more.
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>>101017580
Touma doesn't punish people. He's not gonna judge anyone.

As long as someone's decided to turn over a new leaf, he'll generally be willing to give them a chance.
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>any of you implying Raildex is not ending with an "OMEDETOU" scene
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>>101009504
>caring about Accelerator

Why? The guy is so uninteresting.
TouMAN was always better.
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>>101016846

If the person she is inflicting the crimes on is willing to forgive her, what right to i have to say she is to blame as a third party with no influence on the matter?
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>>101014074
and punches him in his incomprehensible face. I'm calling it right here
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>>101016846
It's all the matter of empathy and understanding. What she do not because of her sheer personality but circumstances around her.
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>>101017220
> GREMLIN did nothing wrong
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>>101018514
What they've done isn't any worse than what Accelerator or Fiamma have done.
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>>101018564
Who has committed the worst crimes (directly and indirectly) in this series anyway, Aleister?
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>>101018733
It's obviously Touma.

His crime? Stealing.

The objects he stole?

Hearts.
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How is Touma gonna get Birdway off his charisma now?
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>>101019097
>Getting off Touma's charisma

The fuck are you saying? Stop spouting such stupid rubbish.
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>>101018733
Its a tossup between Aleister and Fiamma.

I'm leaning towards the latter since most of Aleister's crimes can be attributed to Kiharas, who would be doing similar things even if he didn't gather them up in AC. The RCC/UN/Russia wouldn't have done the things they did without Fiamma pulling the strings.
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>>101018733
I count crimes by people killed.
First is Othinus (for Baggage City).
Second is Vento (for killing three Directors).
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>>101019626
Wait, forgot the albino. I think I'll fit him under Vento (since both he and the Sisters were aware that clones would die).
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>>101019626
First off, I doubt there were over ten thousand victims.

Second, at least half of those victims were the Kiharas' fault.
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>>101018733
Touma. Fiamma started entire WWIII because of Imagine Breaker and Othinus killed worlds just to break his mind. Maybe Aleister even worse if we count Science Side as reason to many conflicts, and one reason which even allow IB beign known.
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>>101019626
> for killing three Directors
Really? Even Brunhild killed more people.
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>>101020346
I've been rereading random sections at a leisurely pace, so my opinions may have desync'd a bit.
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>killing directors
Isn't it a good thing?
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>>101020475
Not if it is Oyafune
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>>101019626
Isn't Terra killed so many people that even Acqua killed him for revenge?
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>>101020296
I don't see how Touma should be blamed for Fiamma being a nutcase. Othinus would have baggage city and orchestrating Hawaii under her belt, but I have a feeling the Kihara's have most likely slaughtered a lot more people over time.
In defence of Othinus she is like a natural disaster who obtained a power that could reset her past mistakes, but the dark side of Academy city just does everything, for science, no matter what it costs.
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>>101020691
Tis more that Terra killed innocent civilians just to test out the effect of his power.
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>>101016277
Sweet jeebus yes, all this suffering almost made me forget the REAL goddess.
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>>101021838
>implying Misaki could ever smell better than Othinus
>implying her voice is as lovely
>implying she could ride a segway with more skill
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>>101022270
I have nothing against Othinus, but I would gladly challenge your first two points.
We all know our princess is no good at exercise and that's why I love her
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>Touma will never share this dashing smile ever again
; _ ;
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>>101021838
Misaki is a simple mortal.
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>>101022510
His smile is reserved for only one woman now
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>>101022629
Can't she live forever by possessing new hosts?
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>>101022645

other than Touma's smile that image looks decent
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>>101022510
Suffering phase is already over man. Not even being killed and thrown back to the start of the loop a million times is enough to stop his speech now.
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>>101022383
Tss. Ace > Queen > God
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>>101022697
Considering that her power relies on her own brains personal reality, I doubt it. Plus she doesn't possess people, she controls them.
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>>101022701
Yeah, suffering no longer has an effect on Touma's smile, unless Othinus dies.
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>>101022697
Even if she can inject her mind into another being it is just temporal solution because another being can't use her mental abilities. Basically you need an endless production of clones here. ~ ☆
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So is Touma gonna take responsibility for his selfishness by giving everyone the T?
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Why didn't Accel touch Best's tits and ass when she allowed? Everyone would do it.
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>>101023684
LO would have sensed it and made him go retard mode
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>>101023684
Because he hasn't gone through puberty.
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>>101023746
So he's asexual at some point?
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>>101014382
>dat lewd necklace
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>>101023847
does her necklace have some significance?
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>>101022383
>>101021838
Well, last hypetrain was her after all.
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>>101014207
She will be Touma's bunnygirl.
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Might as well post this here since I've been banned and none of you niggers have cared to remember it:

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>>101024564,1
I cared about you anon-kun...
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What if Othinus added a filter to the world that made a leyline of luck going to Touma?
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>>101024860

wouldn't IB counter it anyway?
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>>101024994
IB can't really do anything to leylines though.
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>>101024860
Thanks to IB it is impossible for Touma to have even a single lucky day how sad.
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>Othinus starts living with Touma
>wanders into Tokiwadai out of boredom
>students gossip about her eyepatch within earshot of the dorm manager
>their punishment (at Othinus' suggestion) is having to build a viking ship with period tools
>they start enjoying it and make outfits too
>Mikoto helps get the entire school involved to finish it quickly and because watching Misaki do manual labor is hilarious
>they start enjoying it a little too much and build weapons
>Othinus gets nostalgic and has them take it to the river
>they're all speaking Norwegian at this point
>Othinus gets VERY nostalgic

A few hours later, Touma is called to thwart a mysterious new magic cabal that invaded AC, stole technology (clothing and purses), abducted espers (all cute boys), and burnt down three (rival) schools.
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>>101022629
Level 5s have mortal bodies, but we've already seen that their abilities are bonded with their souls to the point that they can transcend that limitation to varying degrees.
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>>101025229
>Touma vs Viking Ojous
WHY HAS NOONE ELSE EVER THOUGHT OF THIS?
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>>101025229
I'd totally watch a Tokiwadai Vikings spin-off
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>>101025492
Yeah, can't Misaki create her own level upper network? The level upper used music to change stuff in people's brains, there is no reason why Misaki wouldn't be able to do the same.
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So if Othinus is real Odin why Thor, shitty Loki, Hel etc aren't ones?
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>>101025914

Ragnarok? I have no fucking idea why
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>>101025914
Becsuse they aren't
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>>101025914
Because they don't know she is the real one? Only Touma knows.
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>>101025492
Misaki can basically be 10 different persons at the same time. Without other people around her though, she's got the weakest defense of all the Level 5's. She's more the support while Mugino is pure dps, accelerator pure tank while the others are pretty much mixed defense/offense.
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>>101025914
(I think it was) Ollerus who said that it was unkown whether Othinus sought everyone else out or that GREMLIN naturally was drawn to her because of her power, but it's implied either way that they aren't near her ability. Obvously Odin would be greater in power than gods like Loki, but I'd still guess that they're all just humans using idol theory. Not everyone can achieve being a Majin.
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Uroboros summoning when?
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>>101026355
NT13 Chapter 4
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>>101025914
Can there be another Magic God like Jessus or Buddha? I remember Othinus listed all religions.
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>>101025492
> mortal bodies
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i'm 12 and what is this?
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>>101026562
I think that's what he means by "transcend that limitation".
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Touma bringing down Othinus, removing a magic god from power, was part of the keikaku all along right
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>>101026722
How 2 keikaku:

If Keikaku doori, Keikaku doori.

If Keikaku not doori, Keikaku doori.
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>>101023746
Bullshit he hasn't, he commented in the Sisters' asses. He's an ass man.
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>>101026826
Then what happens if two people are keikaku doori'ng against one another?
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Wasn't Exterior linked somehow with the SISTERS network? I'd like to see Will-chan taking over Misaki's body and going all out to win the T
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>>101026894
Magic and science clash and fukou da
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>>101026894
Then the third persons Keikaku doori's the other two.
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>>101025034
Wrong. Stop reading spoilers and powerlevel threads. IB negates the Ley Lines (specifically, the energy flowing in its immediate area), but they just immediately regenerate the moment IB leaves. This was the driving concept behind Radiosonde's tracking function.
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>>101026669
Adorable, that's what it is.
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>>101024564,1

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>>101027383
How is it wrong when IB has no permanent effect on Ley Lines?
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>>101012922
Nope. It looks fine.
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>>101027532
Nope. The effect is effectively the same as IB vs Innocentius. Read NT2.
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Can anyone link Haimura's blog? I forgot what it was called.
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>>101027719
http://r-s.sakura.ne.jp/w/i_m.htm
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>>101027631
"can't really" is not the same as can't do anything, if Touma had a giant luck beam attached to the area he was in, his IB couldn't negate it fully, he could just give people luck showers with his fist.
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>>101027743
thanks
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>>101027746
The simple fact is that it is able to do something, and that fact is what Radiosonde's tracking spell was designed around. No amount of sugarcoating from you will change this fact. And no, it has already been well-established that IB fully negates his own luck.
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I've read every translated part so far and I still have found no evidence that Othinus is Odin and Ollerus knows almost nothing.
It's just Touma's theory based on Ollerus (not completely Majin) failing to unerstand Othinus' point of view. It may be just a difference between God (Othinus level) and not-God (Ollerus level) or a result of him spending much less time with her (while she wasn't a real God without Gungnir). Ollerus knows quite a lot about things like Aeon of Horus (maybe his path to became a full-scale God).
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>>101027926

You know the translation isn't finished yet, right
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>>101017580
samefag from before.
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>>101027926
>no evidence that Othinus is Odin

Kamijou Touma was not very knowledgeable in the occult, so he had no way of knowing, but this is what history said:

It was said belief was initially centered on a hammer-wielding lightning god, but it shifted to a lance-wielding god of war at some point.
It was said the god of magic had fulfilled a contract by sacrificing his own body by hanging himself from an ash tree.
It was said the Norse god that became the origin of the name Othinus was a muscular one-eyed old man with a huge beard.

Each of those was “unmistakably true”.
The occasional discrepancies between accounts were nothing more than differences in interpretation between the many different compilers.
But what if the past compilers had made no lies, misunderstandings, or speculations and had only sincerely and accurately written down what they had actually seen?
What if there was something that drew a straight line, connecting all of the fragmentary information?

Didn’t a certain girl’s labyrinth possess both the power and nature needed to accomplish that?

>Religions have also been described as just being layers, which she creates
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>>101027894
Holy fuck you are retarded, the effect of IB on a Ley Line for it's primary purpose is essentially meaningless. You're saying Touma can stop a magical river by redirecting a tiny portion with his fist. Touma's lack of luck is from severing the supposed blessing everyone recieves from god, we know Touma can still receive mental connections from threads of esper power as long as his fist does not go through the connection. Are you telling me a giant river of luck would be stopped by Touma's fist?
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>>101027894
>And no, it has already been well-established that IB fully negates his own luck.
Actually, that has never been established in the slightest. Index made a half-joking guess that IB was negating any good fortune coming his way since they'd be blessings from God and therefore supernatural. That's it. Touma's not even all that unlucky, he's just got a serious case of confirmation bias.
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>>101028057

Does that fact that Othinus used to be a muscular old man with a beard deter any of her new fans?
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So is Othinus from THE 'Original World' or does she simply want to return to HER original world?
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>>101028173

Given that her desire is to return to her original world, her current form is probably her original form.
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>>101028057
First three statements:
> It was said
Last three ones:
Unanswered questions that can lead to no more than theories.
Still no sure evidences
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>>101028173
No, if anything, it turns me on more knowing that a lithe young woman that used to be a God of Olden times is submitting to a Japanese high school boy.
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>>101028190
I think she isn't from the pure world, she just forgot what her original world with all the filters it had was like and couldn't go back.
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>>101028173
No no, Odin was only SAID to be a muscular man with a beard. In "reality", Odin was a little grill.
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>>101028255

>Each of those was “unmistakably true”.
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>>101028154
Didn't TouDAD tell him that when he was young people avoided him because his luck was so bad?
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>>101028255
No, see, this is the part where you use that thing between your ears called your brain and actually think about what you're reading.
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>>101028255
>Unanswered questions that can lead to no more than theories.

Why ask them in the first place?
Why include any of that in the chapter if it didn't mean anything?

Come on dude, does Kamachi have to scream it at you?
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>>101028079
>is essentially meaningless
It's not meaningless at all. If it was meaningless, then Radiosonde wouldn't be possible. Read NT2, Mr. Retard.

>Touma's lack of luck is from severing the supposed blessing everyone recieves from god
Nope. Touma's lack if luck is from IB negating the blessings of God. There is no "severing" involved at all, I don't even know where you pulled that from.

>we know Touma can still receive mental connections from threads of esper power
>Are you telling me a giant river of luck would be stopped by Touma's fist?
That has nothing to do with anything regarding Ley Lines, because that's not how Ley Lines work in the first place.

>>101028154
>Actually, that has never been established in the slightest.
Read vol 4. And Index's explanation is as good as an official one (at least, based on the Magic Side), given how she's an expert on the matter.

>Touma's not even all that unlucky
Are you daft? Touma's misfortune is a fuckhuge part of his character. It's brought up in all situations, comedic and serious (eg vol 22, NT9) alike.
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>>101028333
Kids used to pick on him because of his misfortune, and their parents encouraged them to do it because they were paranoid about his crazy bad luck.

And then some crazy bastard stabbed him.
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>>101028333
They threw rocks, shit talked, and avoided him to be more precise
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>>101028173

That's the thing though. All those events happened, but they were created by Othinus's filters.

Othinus's current form is her true one. The rest are just filters placed on the world.

Othinus is NOT Odin. Rather, the character 'Odin', a huge old man with a beard, is based on Othinus.

>Othinus is a little girl that always wanted to be a big man
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>>101028333
Yeah, I would say getting chopped at with a knife because someone blamed you for them losing everything is bad luck.
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>>101028333
They avoided him because disasters happened to other people when he was nearby. You and I both know that's not how IB works.
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>>101028057
Othinus is not the one who created all the filters that existed pre-NT9.
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>>101028394
>Rather, the character 'Odin', a huge old man with a beard, is based on Othinus.

If Odin is based on Othinus why in all three of those events does it go Odin -> Othinus instead of the reverse?
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>>101028394

...So all of Norse mythology is a self-insert fanfiction by Othinus?
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>>101028377
Index is not an expert on IB. Nobody is. She has no fucking idea how it works.
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>>101028484
Index is an expert on magic, and the "blessings of god" = luck/fortune interpretation is based on Magic Side knowledge. Learn to read. We're not talking about how IB works, but where all the luck/fortune has gone.
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>>101028484
All she gives a fuck about is food.
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>>101028457

It only does that in the last one. The hammer wielding thunder god is obviously Thor and the hanging from a tree is a reference Odin hanging himself on the world tree as a sacrifice to himself.
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>>101028457

What? The first one is talking about Odin replacing Thor, the second one is about Odin hanging himself from Yggdrasil and the final one, taken in context with the rest of the paragraph (and Othinus's ability to add filters) would suggest that Othinus is the root of Odin, rather than the other way round.
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>>101014937
Aren't esper powers as strong as how crazy someone is? Touma would break the charts
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>>101028394
>Othinus is a little girl that always wanted to be a big man

why did that make me "d'awww"
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>>101028457

...You do know that Othinus is just the latin name of Odin, right?
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Once the boss rush is over and shit settles down I hope Touma gets a nice vacation. Let Accel and Shiage take NT11, he's earned a rest.
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>>101028728
Nah, esper powers are caused by a disjunction between how reality is and how they essentially force to imagine reality. They're perfectly aware they're forcing it to be like that. That doesn't mean they're crazy or something.

That statement is mostly made because all the Level 5's are rather unsocial. That's more caused by how they grew up though.

captcha: mnmunnm ilhnu, How the fuck do they expect to solve shit like this.
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>>101028928

Implying he won't be in hiding with Othinus and GREMLIN after the events of the next volume
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>>101028922

Pretty sure he meant "bearded muscleman" - > "segway riding loli", not the actual names.
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>>101028928
> Let Accel and Shiage take NT11
Plsno
He deserves a rest, but not if it ends in something as meh as NT1, and 19
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>>101028989

Nah, 10 is most likely going to end the arc. Status quo is God, Touma will be back in AC with a new harem member that doubles as an air freshener.
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>>101028990
>segway
I think I missed something.
When did she ride a segway?
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>>101029105
How did you miss this
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>>101029086
>Implying Index won't just consume the delicious smelling fairy
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>>101029105

Alpha version.

>For some reason, she rode up alongside him on an electric two-wheeled vehicle that she had picked up somewhere.
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>>101029086
>Status quo is God,

I have a server case of hatred for this statement
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>>101028928
That idea is good and all but I actually want to read about him experiencing his vacation. I don't want a line in the next volume like "And he spent a week on the beach with no misfortune" while Accel and Shiage do their thing.

I just want him to be a normal high school student again, even if it's just for a week.
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>>101028928
Ugh no. I'll take a slice of life comedy volume like 12 or some more depressing stuff than have them back.
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>>101029086

I'd like NT to end with 10 so we can move to a name that doesn't include headcrab.
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>>101029161

A whole server case you say?
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>>101029163

He'll spend the entire week trying to catch up with classes i'll beat
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>>101028990

Oh. He's still wrong then. None of those sentences have anything to do with that.

In fact, look at the last sentence. Odin and the huge variants in his mythology are the filter. Othinus is the line that connects them, and is the real thing.

As to why she decided that he should be a bearded man... Could be an authority thing. Girl might have daddy issues. Maybe 'Odin' originally was closer to Othinus is appearance, and separating herself from that was part of how she gave up her status as the magic god.

It's jsut that since her stated desire is to return to her original world, and everything she;s done has been for that, it seems likely that the form she's wearing now is her real form.
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>>101029086
I'd believe that if it wasn't for the fact that Kamachi kept stating it might not turn out that way. And he does have the balls to make it go the other way.
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>>101029144
I do remember reading this but I just thought she was riding a motorbike or something when I read two-wheeled vehicle.
I should pay more attention.
That sounds hilarious as fuck now.
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>>101029199
severe*
I'm tired leave me alone
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>>101029207
He shouldn't even bother with the rest of the school year. He's definitely going to be held back a year.
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>>101029191
>NT ends in 10
>Kamachi announces a new series a new Toaru with a new name
>A certain goddess Othinus
>Headcrab went back to Engurland
>Othinus is now the freeloader
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>>101029293
Will be glorious.
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>>101029270
I bet that would make Mikoto happy, she'd be able to go to school with him even if for just one year.
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>>101029270
>Komoe won't see all of her students graduating together
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>>101029293

>Railgun ends with this arc
>new manga is A certain scientific network
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>>101028990
she is NOT a loli
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>>101029270
>incidents never stop
>Touma is held back again and again
>Eventually ends up in the same year as Misaka
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>>101029354

You think she would go to his high school instead of whatever Tokiwadai's high school equivalent is?
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>>101029454
She went to their public enrollment thing or tried to so I would guess yes. She can always just go elsewhere to do her power tests.
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>>101029398

Alright, "Segway riding scratch-n-sniff"
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>>101029454
Yes.
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>>101029454

Does she even get a choice in the matter?
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>>101029424
That would result in one very confused Komoe.
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>>101029454
Yeah. Trial Enrolment, she went to check out his school until Misaki did her thing who was also their so I bet she's planning to go there, too when the time comes.
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>>101029487

Kuroko's corpse would stop her.
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>>101029454
What's the high school equivalent anyways, Accel's school?
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>>101029511
Goddamn it man, I was going to use that picture to request some yandere Othinus body-sniffing in the drawthread
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>>101029548
copy and resize by 1%
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>>101029548
Save it as a PNG.
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>>101029548
>resize 1%
>put a black pixel somewhere

pick one.
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>>101029454

She'd probably try.
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>>101029487
>>101029509
>>101029511
>>101029535
>>101029617

>implying her tsundere nature won't get the better of her at the last second making her chicken out
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>>101029663
Now that's the Misaka I know!
...
Worst Misaka
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>>101029716
Don't start this shit bro.
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>>101029548

There, i was meant to post the circle chart but i guess i clicked the wrong picture
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>>101029548

He deleted the picture for you it seems
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>>101029540

There are what, 4-5 other schools in the School Garden? I'm sure one of them is a high school.
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>>101029799
Thank you

Yandere Othinus body-sniffing, here we come
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>>101029293
>she refuses to freeload
>opens a restaurant using Gremlin as employees
>treats Touma to free dinners every night to help him save money
>Mikoto mad as fuck
>can't stop it because the stove outbiribiris her
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>>101029840
isn't Nagatenjouki Academy a highschool?
Nunotaba Shinobu went there and Accelerator was enrolled there too, but only on paper.
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>>101029548


That's a pretty good request.
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>>101029898
>waiter/waitress Thor, since who wouldn't want a pretty girl as a waitress
>cook Marian; well, she knows how to work with meat, at least
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>>101030072

Thor quit Gremlin, no trap waitress for you.
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>>101030181
Which means Othinus has to be waitress
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>>101029535
Will be great if all fo them end in one class (probably would). Looks like misaki already planned to enroll in the same school as touma.
At least it would be like this:

Misaki enroll in the same school as touma -> mikoto heard about this and will try to enroll too -> Kuroko heard about this and do the same thing -> misaka imouto heard about this and tried the same -> Misaka network send massage to last order -> last order will beg accelerator to go to school too (last order included) together with misaka worst -> yomiko sensei heard about this and brag to komoe sensei while drunk -> Komoe will try to persuade musujime to go to school too -> by some chain of event hamazura's gang, kamijou faction, and touma and the gang will also end in the same class. hilarity situation occured
I hope the author pull this off.
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>>101030380

>9969 Sisters enroll at once
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>>101030380
>Kuroko heard about this and do the same thing
Yeah, but Kuroko is a year younger.
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>>101029864

If you get that picture you will post it here as well right?
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>>101030380
Accelerator's been already searching for school for Last Order, but I really doubt he would go to school too.
Same for Hamazura. He's lazyass as fuck.
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>>101030513
If it ever gets done, then sure
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>>101030443
Not all, maybe only misaka imouto and worst. This will be a heaven for kuroko if all the sisters enroll at once.
Just imagine all the GROUP and ITEM member in one class (mugino would be impossible it seem but if she forced it maybe she can enroll too).
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>>101030627
Stop trying to give poor Komoe a heart attack.
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I wonder how much of the recorded mythologies are part of the 'pure' world.
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>>101030921
Komoe will not care about their status, in the first place komoe never knew about their identity right. Tsucimikado already deemed as a slacker by komoe and musujime from the same group already think of her as a mother (they lived together). I think the ITEM member suprsed in seeing komoe and ask her how to stay young.
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>>101031068
I was more referring to Komoe already getting worked up about small fights featuring the delta squad, Imagine how she'd respond to a quarrel of multiple Level 5's.
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>>101031068
Touma should just move into Komoe's place together with Othinus.
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>>101031160

But anon, Imagine Breaker doesn't work against secondhand smoke.
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>>101031227
If only he could fix her oral fixation with something.
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>>101031160
More likely for othinus to follow him after being saved and live in the room together. She practically handed over the world to touma and he must take responsibility for it.
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>>101031227
It does, if the one smoking is Stiyl.
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>>101031847

Sexy and gotta love that Touma.
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>>101031847
Okay. That's awesome.
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>>101030380
Just wait until Misaki brings her whole clique there as her personal slaves.
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>>101031847
Was that made by the Koreans again?
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>>101031847
what's the necklace for?
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>>101032147
It's to symbolize Odin's beard.
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>>101032147
For drawing your eyes towards her perfect body
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>>101031847

I really hope there are Doujins where Touma fucks her while she wears the cape.
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>>101032147
Post-paizuri cleanup.
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>>101032546
Cape-fucking?
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>>101032503
it worked like a charm
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So we have an actual god demonstrating that at least one of the mythological territories forming the framework of a system of magic has a basis in actuality in Raildexverse. So Norse mythology is 'real' there.

What about all the other mythologies and religious orders then? They can't all just be filters stuck on by Othinus?
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>>101029293
>not "a certain norse magic god"
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>>101032571

Yes. I want it anon.
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>>101029383
Well, Will sure has a great character. Also how come she has emotions?
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>>101032882

Ask the dude who is upside down.
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>>101032862
But I'd rather fuck her hair and cum all over her eyepatch
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>>101032882

>Also how come she has emotions?

LO and WORST ring any bells?
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>>101032882
>>101032882
SCIENCE
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>>101033015
LO is LO, and worst isn't a part of it.
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>>101032882
The sisters have emotions
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>>101033140
>LO is LO,

And Willsaka is above LO in the chain of command. LO is part of her hivemind.
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>>101032790
Thelema exists. Allegedly. At least Aiwass exists.
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>>101029208
Is Norse tradition focused on the father being the family head? It's very easy for a chucklefuck to edit history because he didn't like the cold hard fact that his deity took the form of a girl.
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So how long until Full Tuning shows up and gets declared best Misaka?
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So, how did NT9 change your best girl ranking? Who did Othinus and Will-chan dethrone for you?
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>>101033622
Volume 10 I wish
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>>101033622
I'm guessing that will be the subject of the next Railgun arc, assuming that Railgun will continue.
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>>101033601


>But what if the past compilers had made no lies, misunderstandings, or speculations and had only sincerely and accurately written down what they had actually seen?

Doesn't seem to be the case.
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>>101033656
For me Mikoto is the best.
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>>101032945

I like your style anon.
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>>101033656
Before NT8 & 9:
Misaka
Last Order
Kanzaki
Maria
Now:
Will-tan
Othinus
Misaka
Last Order
Kanzaki
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>>101033656
I was a haremfag and became an Othinusfag
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>>101033656
Will-tan and Othinus are both pretty high up now, but NT10 will be the big changer for most characters.

It all depends on how his friends treat him after saving her.
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>>101033656

>Othinus

Didn't change anything. Maybe when we see her deredere in 10.

>Will
Is now tied for first.
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>>101033656

Othinus for me had everyone dethroned. Even though i didn't really care for the others.
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>>101033780
Fuck. I forgot Misaki. Well kick off Last Order then.
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>>101033698
Maybe she was goaded into looking like a wise old man by democracy, because the majority were most used to the depiction of their pantheon as fogeys.
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>>101033656

Othinus took first place off Kanzaki
Will-tan took 10032's second place, or should i count that as merging?
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>>101033656
Othinus is shit.
Will and Misaki are on equal footing.
Misaka still shit.
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So who's ready for js06 to bless us with more of Othinus's lovely voice and smell in writing today?
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>>101034112

I am. Still awake even though it is 5:32 am and won't update for quite awhile. I lie as i can't sleep for shit due to reasons.
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>>101034166
Damn that kind of sucks. East Canada here so 1:33PM
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>>101033656
Nah. Othinus can't play her cards so she fall in my eyes. Will is best on every possible way here.
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>>101022510
His swagger was off the fucking charts here
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>>101033656
Mikoto is still my favorite, but both Will-chan and Othinus became easily top 3, in that order.
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>>101022510
After what Touma pulled, I can't wait for Touma to fight Birdway again so they can make up afterwards. Best imouto.
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>>101037343
She's an annoying haughty piece of shit.
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>>101037343
Only he will not have a smile this time.
>Hey, Birdway. How about we fight and make up again.
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After watching that new MAD video, I imagine a game being made with the entire vol. where the black void in the beginning is the only save location and players have to go through the different versions of the world without dying. And when they go against Othinus, her attacks are instant kills. Which will lead to players starting back in the void and have to go though all those worlds again with no skip's. Only after they get close enough to Othinus will they be allowed to save.
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>>101037343
>Best imouto
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>>101037796
>Will-chan trolling Mikoto by digging up 9982's memories
Please, Kamachi.
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>>101015099
Fear? It would be good. It fits with what the Will said to Touma, and would make her even better because Othinus and her will be the only ones on his side, and the Will will help him to slowly make again his broken connections. This happening would mean more of Will-chan being best girl for the next volumes too.
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>>101037944
Please troll hard Mikoto, Kamachi.
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so how does the whole world ending/changing/altering Othinus did work exactly?

she erased reality and built a new one to make Touma suffer?
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>>101037762
That's not a kind of look an onii-chan should give his cute imouto.
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>>101038094

No. She doesn't destroy anything, she creates filters.
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>>101033656
Before:
Birdway
Misaka
Lessar
LO
Index
After:
Birdway
Will-tan
Othinus
Misaka
Lessar
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>>101038101
>Not sometimes being stern to your imouto
I seriously hope you don't do this.
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>>101033656
Before:
Mikoto
After:
Mikoto
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>>101037343
>>101037762
We can put down Birdway for being one of the bosses the boss right. Calling it now, she'll be the third or second to last boss.
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>>101038318
Touma already beat the hardest boss in NT9 anyway. Himself.
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>>101038301
Mikoto is a slut.

Will-tan / Othinus FTW
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>>101033656
Seria and Misaki
Kanzaki
Who?
But for some reason I associate Othinus with the first pair. Maybe because they all are seem as grannies to me.
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>>101038470
You're a slut.
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>>101038470
>Low quality bite.jpg
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>>101038578
Tat pity slutness
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>>101038318
Let's assume Touma has to fight 5 people for the boss rush. Who do you want him to fight? Mine is

Carissa
Birdway
Thor
Ollerus
Kakine

In that order. Boss level characters who have reasons to fight Touma arranged in terms of increasing intensity. Kakine's the secret boss.
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>>101038779
His harem.
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>>101038138
don't suppose you could go into more detail on that?
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Last three bosses in the rush will be:

One who represents magic - probably Birdway
One who represent science - probably Accelerator
One who's closest to Touma - ?
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>>101038944
Why would Accelerator be included in the boss rush?
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>>101038779
>Birdway
>Thor
>Ollerus
These guys for sure. Add in Fiamma, it's only befitting that Touma and Fiamma clash again, especially now that Touma has changed.
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>>101022510
He'll do when he marries Othinus.
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>>101038779
Birdway
Ollerus
Maybe Thor (because dat exp)
Representative/proxy of Laura
Representative/proxy of Crowley

Can't really think of an obvious 5. Birdway will likely try to get rid of the potential threat.
Ollerus has been against Othinus, but he fell prey to the same weakening he did to Othinus. He won't be 100% Ollerus, but he'll still try.
Thor because Thor is the easiest to put in a fighting situation.
Laura might send someone to fuck him over, or even the country coalition.
Crowley will likely want to capture or deal with Othinus, so he may even appear himself. Him not dealing with Fraulein makes me doubt this, though.

I don't think Fiamma will fight Touma again. He seems to have come to terms with his loss, but who knows how he'll act once he sees Touma again.
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>>101039008

My dream. Don't break it.
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>>101039008
Touma will punch him because that's what he's used to doing. Accel will just stroll by on the way to get some coffee or something and Touma'll just start laying into him. He has to deal with his pent up frustration from not punching anyone for thousands of years somehow.
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>>101039321
>Touma starts picking fights because of this
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>>101039350

>People fear Touma
>Touma is brutal and unforgiving
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>>101039321
This makes sense

>>101039350
>>101039450
I'm not opposed to this, especially if he's only calm when around Will or Othinus
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>>101039321
>Accelerator secretly likes being punched
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>>101039450

I'd like to see it for a volume or 2

as long as he is calm around Othinus and Will
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>>101039109
>Representative/proxy of Laura
Pendex
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>>101039515
>Touma starts physically abusing Index
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>>101039593
>Headcrab getting freeman'd
That's not abuse, Anon, only the way things are supposed to go.
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>>101039593
Yes please.
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>>101039109
>Crowley may even appear himself
I don't think so. Even after WW3 he wouldn't like to reveal himself. He would appear personally only if it was absolutely only way to deal with the problem. Also if Aleister came to battlefield, he would be able to obliterate any person there in seconds, since Othinus is no longer god. Right now there is no powerlevel other than Aiwass that could match his "muh rules are better than yours" hax abilities.
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>>101039718
>Nuh uh your magic doesn't work because I said so muh rules
Crowley is like the chuuni kid who won't let anyone else win
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>>101039718
>He would appear personally only if it was absolutely only way to deal with the problem
But Anon, that was my point. Othinus was a god, cast aside her godhood, then regained it. She also knows pretty much exactly what he's trying to accomplish. She's a threat. Once Touma beats the other bosses, it's only natural he'd show up, or a representative of his.
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>>101039852
Question: Due to the fairy spell she is unable to go back to being a god ever again right?
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>mfw the boss rush isn't Hamazura 5 times
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>>101039959
Ollerus apparently doesn't know as much about gods as were led to believe, so who fucking knows.

He's a fairy now too anyway, unless it just doesn't work on humans.
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>>101039852
Nothing to worry about, she will be contained in Touma's harem and reduced to comic relief character. Fairy spell is nothing when compared to this.
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>>101033656
Will-chan became best girl for many people in record time. She's simply perfect. What she did for Touma is something that will never be topped. Period. Only Othinus has a chance to match to her, at most.
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>>101040010

Ok, I'm just going to believe it is a temporary status unless proven to be otherwise.
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>>101040071
>comic relief character.
>Still one of the most powerful "people" in the series

this has happened before, right?
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>>101040130
The whole idea behind the fairy spell was that gods who are forgotten by time are only remembered as a lesser being, a fairy.

So I assume it was meant to be permanent, whether it actually is or not.
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>>101039718
>>101039109

Birdway said it back in NT2, Crowley can't move freely right now without potentially screwing up his plans.
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>>101040344
I imagine getting rid of a potential risk like Othinus while he has the chance is worth it. He likely just wasn't able to do it while she was 50% hax.
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>>101029124
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>Othinus will shapeshift into a loli when she joins the harem
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>>101028484
Index is the closest thing to IB, with the info she has in her head
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>>101040771

Please no, we have enough lolis as it is
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>>101040794
Back at the beginning of the series, Index had no idea that Imagine Breaker even existed. It wasn't recorded in the 103,000 Grimoires.
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>>101040794
There isn't absolutely any info about IB in her head.
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>>101040871
I think he was talking about functionality
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>>101040949
I doubt that information exists either.

The 103,000 Grimoires only have information on spells and magical effects. Imagine Breaker isn't magic, so there's no reason in would be recorded there.
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Do you guys think we will any form of powerup for IB anytime in the future?
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>>101040226
>Kanzaki
>Mikoto
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>>101041015
They both can "negate all magic", the Index librorum prohibitorum is the closest thing to the imagine breaker in that sense

>>101041270
no
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>>101041270
The IB doesn't need to be powered up.

It can restore the entire world to its original state. It's crazy powerful. It was just never really meant to be used to punch fireballs and electric spears out of the air.

Plus that would be boring. Touma using strategy to defeat his opponents is much more interesting than him just slapping them down with pure power.
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Would you look at that, yet another vanilla misaka/touma doujinshi.
http://exhentai.org/g/669044/fea91a44a1/
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Is the Index RPG game still a thing or is it forever dead?
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>>101041311
Spell intercept does not negate all magic. She was nearly killed when Ellis went on auto-pilot.
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>>101018284
>Better than Accel
>His serious opponents are High Magical Based Opponents
>Who also have 1 DEF stat
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>>101041479
>vanilla misaka/touma doujinshi
My dicku is ready.
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Was anyone else annoyed by the all the video game comparisons Kamachi made when he tried to explain things?
It's okay when it's during normal battles but in this novel it was just breaking the atmosphere.
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>>101040814
Not really when you compare to non-loli characters. But it's going to happen. Kamachi just loves doing that.
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>>101041479
Yeahhhh.
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>>101041552
You should probably give up on that.

It was revived and killed very quickly. At this point it may as well be Touma.
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>>101041757
Strange metaphors are Kamachi's sustenance.
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>>101041565
Index said that her reason to exist was that knowing all the magic you can negate all magic, Why I am even doing this?
>>101040794 explain it yourself, how is index the closest thing to IB?
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>>101041757
I'm always annoyed by the comparisons he makes when trying to explain things
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>>101041757
Personally I feel it's still okay considering Touma is a normal highschool boy with little knowledge of magics. He's not exactly bright either so there wouldn't be much more sense if he starts explaining things with complex metaphor.

Now if Othinus or Ollerus starts explaining things with RPG metaphor too..
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>>101041757
I would only see a reason to be annoyed if I could make better comparisons. I don't see any comparisons that could be made in regards to real life regarding the situation Kamachi put The TouMAN in.
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>>101041757
I was mildly annoyed, but then again, bizarre metaphors are pretty idiosyncratic of Kamachi.exe's writing.
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>>101041757
A little but it's understandable since I can see that's how a guy like Touma would think of it. That's why I let it pass. If someone like Birdway made that analogy at that point in time, I'd quit reading right there. But even if I let is pass, I do admit it could have been better. He could have easily explained it by just saying something like

>Imagine two people. One trying to do an almost impossible task and another who's forced to repeat a trivial chore. Which one do you think will give up first?

Then Touma can go on to explain how there's more meaning and enjoyment in trying to accomplish something almost impossible than it is to mindlessly do something trivial and that's why Othinus broke first.
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>>101040075
Kamachi literally waited 32 novels to introduce a good girl.
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The Motherfucking TouMAN is back bitches!
>Waiting for Part 7...
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>>101042318
But Birdway likes vidya, anon. Both she and Patricia are addicted to a Monster Hunter equivalent. I can totally see her using video game analogies, at least when explaining things to Touma.
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>>101041479
You're welcome
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>>101042318
But anon, this is something he just does. Saying that he shouldn't use video game analogies is like saying he should stop being Touma. He's been making video game analogies from as early as the second volume.
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>>101042520
Not at that point in time at least for me. She's more inclined to explain it using her experience as a cabal leader who analyzes prominent people or something especially when things are serious.

I actually didn't write "at that point in time" at first and wrote it afterwards because I remembered NT2 and how she's like in comedy moments.

>>101042586
I know, that's why I said I let it pass since it's Touma. It's just that even Touma could have made a more serious analogy and it would fit the mood more. But hey, this is Kamachi.
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>>101041757
>Prologue: The End of a Certain World - Game_Over.
>Epilogue: Do You Admit it, or Not? - Continue.
What were you expecting?
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>>101042886
He's used silly analogies in pretty desperate situations before, anon.

He "could have" used a more serious analogy, but that just implies that you want him to be a more serious person.
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The kind of keikaku this girl pulled is just insane. She created a scenario where she just can't lose unless she choose to. Meanwhile Crowley's silly scheme is already falling apart due to a fag like Fiamma.

Crowley seems like a joke compared to her now.
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>>101043132
it's the booty, anon. Look at that soft booty.

How does it smell
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>>101043132
>implying failing isn't part of Aleister's keikaku so everyone else can start destroying each other while they think he's down
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>>101043132
Well, she used to be a god back then.
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>>101043184

I love how her outfit is literally showing the most of her pussy area before it goes R-18. It's like if she calculated it down to 0.01mm.
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>>101043431
She was talking about designing that part of her outfit in this line:
>Your tiny head cannot even understand a fraction of the trial and error spent reaching this point
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>>101043051
Mood. The mood of the volume and the moment. I already said it was in character (hence I let it pass) but that still doesn't make it fit the mood. He could have easily made an analogy that suits his life experience that would have both preserved the mood more and stayed in-character. But I guess one out of 2 ain't bad.

And on the topic of video game theme, I do realize spamming continues was the point. The NT9 MAD that got posted here made very good use of that aspect. But how he explained that video game analogy could have been better. One thing that annoyed me was the "make a good conversation topic" bit. Brevity is something I'm anal about because it's one of my problems as well when writing anything (like this post).

>http://youtu.be/ZNAbs3Ju8k0
The NT9 MAD I mentioned. I really like it.
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>>101043132
And it would have worked too if it wasn't for those meddling clones.
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>>101043687
It fits with his prior words to Hamazura in NT7.

About how no matter how many times he fails and must pitifully press "continue", he'll still keep moving forward.

In fact, nearly everything that Touma's said or has been said about him across NT was pretty much addressed here.

The term "hero" has constantly been used throughout the title, and Touma's essentially been put on some kinda pedestal, but NT9's all "No, FUCK YOU, he's just a normal high school boy, he's not some kind of perfect saint. Stop fucking piling up all these expectations on him you fuckers."

Everything's basically been building up to this.
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>>101033656
NT9 changes nothing.

Saten-sama is never going to be dethroned. Best girl always and forever.
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>>101044411
Nagai pls get out of /a/.
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>>101043674
>tiny head
LEWD
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>>101011033
What does it day?
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>>101044856
That Yuriko is best girl.
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>>101044856

Something about how they don't plan on animating more Toaru/Raildex stuff for a while.
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Styil is gonna be the final boss, calling it.
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>>101045198

And this time he has SIX Innocentius.
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I can't wait for Touma to change the thoughts and earn the affection of a god. I hope she remains haughty to everyone who isn't Touma who she talks to as an equal.
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>>101045329
>6
>not 10031
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>>101045198
>Stiyl was keikakuing Aleister the entire time

I like it.
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>>101045198
>>101045561
>First boss was actually final boss
That you, Garland?
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>>101045329
And every one of them has 2 flame swords
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Isn't Stiyl one of the few magicians who has been allowed in Crowley's current inner sanctum? Or am I misremembering that bit from early on in the series, and it's only Tsuchimikado who has done so?
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>>101045763
>not holding little Innocentiuses
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>>101045415
That seems to be the recipe for ultimate fukou da for Touma. The other girls wouldn't accept that treatment, and considering the personality and power of some, it can get very dangerous for everyone.
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>>101045844
Both of them have been inside the windowless building, Awaki was at the time responsible for teleporting them inside.
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>>101045844
Yes, back in vol2.
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>>101045746

And Touma doesn't remember that he was the first boss.
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>>101045947
>>101045957
Speaking of that scene from volume 2, I somehow feel that Crowley's comment about how if Deep Blood existing proves the existence of vampires, Imagine Breaker existing proves the existence of something else is somewhat relevant here. Could he have been referring to the pure world?
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>>101045852
>Stiyl makes up for how easily one and three Innocentii are beaten by having as many small ones as cards he has
>they are so tiny that Touma can just step on them to put them out
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>>101046147
He's probably talking about the existence of gods or forces who could change the world so drastically that it would need a reset button.

He was probably talking about Awaiss though.
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>>101046147
I can see how this would make sense. Since Crowley is trying to create a world without religious filters through SCIENCE, maybe he learned from Aiwass about the world Othinus originally came from.
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>>101046183
So Indexchu?
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>>101046147
Imagine Breaker proves the existence of the pure world?
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>>101046472
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>>101037776
What MAD video?
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>>101046147
I always thought he was referring to God, but after we have learn in NT9 he may be talking about the world without layers
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>>101040275
Seeing as there are such things as religious revivals I wouldn't be certain.

Anyway surely even fairies have considerable power.
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>>101045937
It'd be cute if Touma acts as the mediator trying to coax Othinus into getting along with what she considers mere humans.
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>>101046941
Othinis is technically a fairy during all of NT9. Destroying and remaking the worlds is simply done at the peak of her power as a fairy.
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>>101046869

The one at >>101043687
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>>101046360
I'm confused.

So Othinus originally came from a pure science world and every religion that's existed since then is just her fucking with reality and sticking on filters to try and get closer to science again? I don't get it.
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>>101047090
The pure world isn't necessarily the original world, Anon.

And again, her "original world" may not be someone else's.
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>>101047049
Isn't it all just done with Gugnir?
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>>101047090
There is no "original pure science world". Nothing in the text is suggesting that. Othinus simply claims that Aleister is trying to enter the "pure world" that is untouched by religion or magic, but no one ever said that the "original world" was a world of nothing but pure science.

It's like if you took water from a lake and put it through a water filtering system. You'd be left with pure, clean water, but that's not the original form of that water.
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>>101047090
She is trying to return to her world, not the pure world
She even says that going to the science world is something no one has done, not even the golden cabals, and what she is doing is as close as someone has been in the history of history
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There is no "original pure science world". Nothing in the text is suggesting that. Othinus simply claims that Aleister is trying to enter the "pure world" that is untouched by religion or magic, but no one ever said that the "original world" was a world of nothing but pure science.

It's like if you took water from a lake and put it through a water filtering system. You'd be left with pure, clean water, but that's n
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There is no "original pure science world". Nothing in the text is suggesting that. Othinus simply claims that Aleister is trying to enter the "pure world" that is untouched by religion or magic, but no one ever said that the "original world" was a world of nothing but pure science.

It's like if you took water from a lake and put it through a water filtering system. You'd be left with pure, clean water. However, that's not the ORIGINAL form of that water. There was never a point in time when water was "completely free of impurities". There was always dirt and bacteria and whatnot mixed in there.
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What does Aleister plan to do with Touma if he needs him to get to the pure world?
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>>101046965
And Othinus ignores the girls and gets closer to him, while treating them of being unworthy to him, making the girls jelly and mad as fuck.
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How does Touma even get money?
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>>101047655
>>101047528
>>101047369
Onore just make another post with an addendum to the first one there's no need for multiple retakes.

Anyway really doesn't that mean that since IB completely denies anything mystical it won't actually help Othinus get back to her original world since her world wasn't devoid of mysticality?

>>101047790
The City provides students with merit-based allowance.
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>>101047790
Espers get money for participating in research
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>>101047790
All AC students get paid an allowance based on their levels.
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>>101047790
He crossdresses at night.
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>>101047790
He's actually massively in debt from all his hospital bills.
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>>101047790
AC gives them some wage and subsidizes essentials like housing while jacking up the price on luxuries like candy.
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>>101047946
They give money even to level zeros?
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>>101048037
And hot dogs, those fucking 20$ hot dogs.
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>>101047655
I see what are you trying to say, and although I agree, I just want to point out that there was a point in time when water had no impurities
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>>101048079
Hoe else does he feed Index? Level Zeroes are probably just paid veeeeery little
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>>101047971
He came up with an answer no one ever expected and stands on a brand new stage. Godspeed, Kamijou-san.
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>>101048153
He just barely gets by. You also have to remember all of his hospital bills.
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>>101048079
Would be kinda fucked up not to. Obviously its not much, judging by the Skill-Out crowd.
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>>101048079
Level 0s are espers, they are more common and therefore less valuable but they still take part in experiments and test and get paid for it
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>>101048277
I'm willing to bet Aleister pays for most of the hospital bills.
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>>101048277
There's a reason he's constantly scrounging for good deals after all.
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>>101048281
Since they don't go to school at all, they probably don't get paid.
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Basic living expenses appear to be paid for by the city. If you want anything better than basic, you'd need pay for it yourself. So Touma doesn't have to worry about rent, water or electricity.

Seeing as how he probably bought his TV, coffee table, kitchenware, etc., etc., he probably receives enough money to get by plus extra for whatever else he might want or need.

Also, I imagine that Academy City has some amazing health coverage; near as I can tell, treatment doesn't cost a dime, but hospital stays do. Otherwise, there's no way Touma would be able to pay for all the surgeries he's had to go through. Basically, anything filed under "medical necessity" would be paid for by the city, but stuff like in-patient fees still must be paid for by the patient. So not entirely unlike how it works in America, only Academy City's less likely to fuck you over.

In other words, the only expenses Touma really needs to worry about are food and hospital stays.
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>>101048456
I find it funny that his awesome jacket sweater thing he wears now was actually found in a dumpster in NT6 when he changed out of his hospital clothes.
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>>101048402
Seeing how a lot of shit is experimental in that city and dangerous and experimental stuff is cheaper than old and safe things in that place, research facilities probably pay for most of medical costs in AC
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>it's been a whole thread without any updates
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>>101048711
Pretty nice shit for something he got in the trash.
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>>101048994
But the thread started with the update.
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>>101049157
>it's been a whole thread without any new updates
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It boggles my mind how, up to this time, there are still people who have no idea what Fiamma and Aleister's plans are. What Othinus is doing here may seem to be grander and on a larger scale, but Aleister is planning to change the world on a more fundamental level. It's said in this very volume that he's not trying to add a filter onto the world, but rather trying to tamper with the pure world beyond all the filters. He's attempting to change something even more fundamental than universal constants. The reason why he had to take out Fiamma was because Fiamma's methods (and goals) were approaching his own. Othinus' methods cannot mess with the pure world, she is simply adding on filters.
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>>101049212,1
Makes me wonder what exactly Aleister's plan is. All we ever got is small bits and pieces of his plan. The full thing must be on a really huge scale to even effect the pure world.
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js06 will bless us soon. I feel it.
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>yfw nobody cares about the accel manga anymore
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>>101049212,4
Deal with it, nerd.
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>>101049212,4
No one gives two fucks about it while NT9 is going on.
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>101049212,4
There's just nothing in it worth caring about yet.

The necromancer isn't that cute, DA feels like a grown up Study, and there's plenty of other material to look at if we really want to see Accel rant about darkness.
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So Jap NT9 scans where?
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>>101049212,7
Let's see him rant about magic then.
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>>101049212,4
I care about it for it's comedic value.
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>>101049212,9
He'd be stuck making random inaccurate guesses like Mikoto, since he doesn't even reflect magic until WW3 and doesn't get an explanation until NT2.
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>>101049212,11
Maybe the manga is about the hilarious bumbling of Accel with magic to the chagrin of the necromancer while he tries to act dark and serious all the time.
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Only one part for today:
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume9_Chapter_8#Part_7
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>>101049212,13
T-Thanks bro
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>>101049212,13
Thanks bro.
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>>101049212,13
Based man. Thanks.
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>“No, I can’t. And these repeated battles haven’t increased my physical strength. Nor have I unlocked a hidden power in Imagine Breaker or anything like that. I’m still me. I haven’t become anything else.”

Boom to all of you.
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>“I’m the kind of normal high school boy you can find anywhere. My right hand may contain a bit of a special power, but that isn’t enough to call me an expert. Even if I managed to evade a god’s attack here, I’m still me. If I fought a normal magician, I’d normally lose. My specs aren’t any higher than that.”
Oh fucking wow.
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>>101049212,18
TouMAN.
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> This may be rude to you as a god, but you’re somehow easy to get along with.
What the hell, Touma, that's not how you're supposed to talk to someone who's killed you millions of times.
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>>101049212,20
Funny, I was going to type "That's not how you talk to someone who killed you countless times" with the exact same quote.
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>>101049212,18
He is delusional as fuck
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>>101049212,20
Touma doesn't see it that way.
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>I purposefully chose how I was killed to test out all sorts of things. In death, I learned.

And at that moment somewhere in the warped world, a Kihara shed a single tear of joy.
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>Touma: This may be rude to you as a god, but you’re somehow easy to get along with.

>Othinus: However, I suppose the time I have spent with you has surpassed that connection. To think this place would create someone who understands me even more than him.

Just fuck already.
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>>101049212,24
Not like there was much else for him to do after he'd made up his mind to fight Othinus. If he was going to be killed repeatedly he might as well make something of it.
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So what is this black labyrinth anyway?
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>“What you bear isn’t so light that I can convince you with words. I can understand that now. So let’s not hold back. I don’t care if it’s hopeless or hellish. It wouldn’t be any fun if we don’t squeeze out every last drop.”

No wonder she fell for him at the end of the novel.
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>>101049212,27
It's the equivalent of a blank canvas, I guess.
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I'm thoroughly enjoying this battle of a god versus a mere human. So fucking much.
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>>101049212,13
>the world was her crossbow
Wut?
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>Kamijou felt something like a chill run along his back.
>He could feel something gathering in his broken right fist.
>The destruction or severing of that fist seemed to act as some sort of trigger. He could feel in his skin that something was about to burst out.

Just breaking his hand is enough? Holy shit, Thor was lucky.
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So are there any real world evidence that Odin really did have a bow or is this just an invention of Kamachi.
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>>101049212,32
>yfw Touma nearly breaks his hand when PenDex
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I can't believe Touma only believes he can beat Othinus with the shit he's learned. He essentially learned what she's thinking based on facial expressions and body movements, as well as how she would react to moves he makes, correct?

That may not 100% carry over to other people, but it's a really fucking good base to start from.

>>101049212,33
He had a bow called Ichaival, but there really isn't jack shit on it. Kamachi got the 1 arrow = 10 correct, though. The other shit is just Kamachi.
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>>101049212,25
They would if that boss rush didn't happen, I bet they wouldn't even give a fuck about their audience too
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>>101049212,25
Well, there's still some credit to Ollerus after all.
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>>101049212,13
Goddamn, now I want to play Touma in Gensokyo, shit would be fun as hell
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The Stockholm syndrome, it's too powerful.
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Going through possibly millions of apocalyptic worlds just so you can die in order to figure out how to dodge one attack. Then doing it again for another attack. And another and another until you can dodge a god's attack.

And then still saying "I'm an ordinary highschool boy that will lose to a normal magician." Bullshit. I'm not even sure if Kamachi wants us to take Touma's words seriously at this point.
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>>101049212,40
Eh, he still is a normal high school boy. He didn't turn into an elf or fairy. He's a human that sucks at attending school with the resolve of a god.
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>>101049212,40
Seeing as he called him as being a guy who surpassed those old kung fu masters, or immortal lolis who speak like grandmas, yeah he knows that Touma's a crazy motherfucker
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>>101049212,33
It's a reference to the Gesta Danorum:
>So when the squadrons were arranged in the wedge, he stood himself behind the warriors, and from the wallet which was slung round his neck drew an arbalist. This seemed small at first, but soon projected with more prolonged tip, and accommodated ten arrows to its string at once, which were shot all at once at the enemy in a brisk volley, and inflicted as many wounds

The person doing this is merely referred to as an "old man", but he may be traditionally associated with Othinus (who is mentioned elsewhere in the book but usually rendered as Odin in English).
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>>101049212,43
Thanks bro
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>>101049212,43
Have you actually read that? If not, I'm curious as to what combination of words you used to Google-fu correctly.
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>>101049212,45
No, I haven't actually read it.

I searched the exact terminology Kamachi used (with -禁書 to remove the Index-related results) to find a few Japanese sites that mentioned it and gave the Gesta Danorum as a source.
Once I knew the source, it was easy.
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>>101049212,46
>>101049212,45
>>101049212,43
Found it: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1150/1150-h/1150-h.htm

Meantime Uffe, who had a marvellously fair daughter, decreed that the man who slew Hadding should have her. This sorely tempted one Thuning, who got together a band of men of Perm (Byarmenses), being fain so to win the desired advancement. Hadding was going to fall upon him, but while he was passing Norway in his fleet he saw upon the beach an old man signing to him, with many wavings of his mantle, to put into shore. His companions opposed it, and declared that it would be a ruinous diversion from their journey; but he took the man on board, and was instructed by him how to order his army. For this man, in arranging the system of the columns, used to take special care that the front row consisted of two, the second of four, while the third increased and was made up to eight, and likewise each row was double that in front of it. Also the old man bade the wings of the slingers go back to the extremity of the line, and put with them the ranks of the archers. So when the squadrons were arranged in the wedge, he stood himself behind the warriors, and from the wallet which was slung round his neck drew an arbalist. This seemed small at first, but soon projected with more prolonged tip, and accommodated ten arrows to its string at once, which were shot all at once at the enemy in a brisk volley, and inflicted as many wounds. Then the men of Perm, quitting arms for cunning, by their spells loosed the sky in clouds of rain, and melted the joyous visage of the air in dismal drenching showers. But the old man, on the other hand, drove back with a cloud the heavy mass of storm which had arisen, and checked the dripping rain by this barrier of mist. Thus Hadding prevailed. But the old man, when he parted from him, foretold that the death whereby he would perish would be inflicted, not by the might of an enemy, but by his own hand. Also he forbade him to prefer obscure wars to such as were glorious, and border wars to those remote.
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>>101049212,46
Well fuck, the moon people are better at this citing shit than we are. The book seems to be freely available on the web, so I'll probably check that shit out. A shame Googling it in English only gets me a bunch of Symphogear/final fantasy/fire emblem shit. Wikipedia does name the bow, but the source for the name isn't cited and the entry was just added back in December of 2013.

Also, is there a difference for an arbalest and crossbow in Jap? I know sometimes they don't separate very similar/nitpicky differences in things, like count/earl, and typing both words in Google Translate nets me the same symbols.
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>>101049212,48
>Wikipedia does name the bow
What's the name?
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>>101049212,49
Ichaival, but I wouldn't trust it. The edit was from an IP whose only edit was this, the description's English is terrible, and they provided no source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mythological_objects#Bows

While I'm at it, I suppose I should be picky over crossbows using arrows instead of bolts or quarrels, but the Gesta Danorum does say arrows...
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>>101049212,50
Thanks
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New thread: >>101067482
Somebody put the code and the other stuff since I am still banned.
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>>101049212,50
Do not trust the name Ichaival.

Every source I can find is from a Japanese work of fiction, they all claim to be the bow of Ullr not Odin, and Ullr lived in Ýdalir which means yew-dales.
Why is that last one important? Yew in Japanese is イチイ and Ichaival in Japanese is イチイバル.
It looks like some guy in Japan made up a name using their word for yew and it stuck.
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>>101049212,53
Figures.
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>>101049212,53
>Gungnir and Ichaival
Are we Symphogear now?
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>>101049212,18
>>101049212,40
I think there's some misinterpretation of what he's trying to say. I'm pretty sure he means that he SHOULDN'T be able to defeat a magician normally. He's basically amazed he's gotten as far as he has without dying.



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