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How does summoning servants work and how and why is saber different? Took a big break between routes and I can't remember this detail. Help me /a/, you're my only hope!
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>>101000619
Saber is just frozen in time, so she's technically still alive.
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Saber isn't different in terms of summoning really.
You only need the ritual and a catalyst, though depending on circumstances the catalyst alone will do. Any conceptually or magically potent item will do for a catalyst, but a relic or something else with ties to a specific servant will increase your chances of summoning them, sometimes even overriding whoever you intended to summon in the first place. As was the case when Rin summoned Archer when she asked for Saber.

In Shirou's case, he didn't need a ritual at all because the catalyst was an incredibly powerful NP with strong connections to a specific servant. Plus it was embedded in his body for ten years, which may have made some difference.
There's also the fact that the war needed a seventh master and all the options for eligible magi had been exhausted at that point. Although Zouken could've been chosen, I suppose, so maybe that wasn't an issue.
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>>101001071

>Saber is just frozen in time, so she's technically still alive.

not according to the legend m8
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>>101001101
Very helpful, thanks for your time anon!

>>101001071
So that's why she could keep her memory between summonings?

Another question, what makes a figure eligible for summoning? Just has to be in a popular story or what?
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>>101001214
That's the point, she is frozen in time just before she died in Camlann.

Once she gets the deal with the world over, she dies at the hill, until that time, she is frozen in time looking for a miracle to save her country.
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>>101001604
>Another question, what makes a figure eligible for summoning? Just has to be in a popular story or what?
To be an Heroic Spirit or something similar to one.
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If OP's question has been answered, then...
Let's talk about best girl and why she is so best.

I was considering making a Fate general thread. Thanks, OP.
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>>101001962
So, uh, according to "Fate" legend, who kills her? Because in Arthurian myth it's Mordred, his illegitimate son, but I'm not sure this girl Arthur had a kid
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I'm not dying...

I'm passing into legend.
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>>101001604
>what makes a figure eligible for summoning?
Originally, anyone who was remembered as a hero and stored in the Throne of Heroes. Although they also have to mesh with the servant class system.
After the corruption of the Grail in the Third War, it became possible for pretty much anyone who'd been remembered by humanity, for both good and evil deeds, which is why you have characters like Caster being summoned.
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>>101001071
Didn't know theres a tale about King arthur's daughter
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>>101001101
>In Shirou's case, he didn't need a ritual at all because the catalyst was an incredibly powerful NP with strong connections to a specific servant.
Not entirely true.

He did need the ritual, but the ritual is very simple. All you need is to channel your magic circuits over a magic circle, and when Shirou was chased into the shed by Lancer, and activated his circuit to do strengthening magic, it turned out that the reason he was able to do that so well in the shed was because the old magic circle that Iri left there in F/Z was still active, so that counted as the ritual and reacted with his catalyst to summon Saber.

The rest of the ritual isn't required and just helps the summoning be more stable so that mistakes like when Rin summoned Archer don't happen.
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>>101002279
It's Mordred too. The whole thing is more or less the same, is just that Mordred is an homunculus here.
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>>101002279
Mordred kills Arthur in TM too, except he's a magic clone girl instead of an illegitimate son.
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>>101002279
Pretty much the same in the Nasuverse. Mordred's body was cursed so that it reanimated after Saber killed her at Camlann (yes, her), mortally wounding her.
And yes, Saber fathered Mordred with Morgan le Fay. Don't ask how, you won't like the answer.
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>>101002413
It was even better as it was Saber who drew that circle following Iri instructions, so the connection was even better.
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>>101001214
Yeah it is bobby, why do you think it's called once anf future king
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>>101002525
how
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>>101002525
>Saber fathered Mordred with Morgan le Fay.

Lesbian incest to create a child? Nigga what?
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>>101002583
Merlin pranks, futa and a wild night.

It's never shown, it's said as a joke in Merlin entry in one of the first materials and it is still there.
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>>101002583
Merlin futa dick magic
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>>101002583
Merlin temporarily gave Saber a dick, Morgan la fey sucked out her semen, and then inseminated herself to give birth to a magical homunculus clone girl.

She lost the dick shortly after.
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>>101002716
Waifu material x 1000
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are servants aware of time passing in the throne of heroes? eternal purgatory is a pretty shit reward for being a hero
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>>101002583
>>101002641
Magic futa incest. Enabled by Merlin, although probably not with the expected results.
Except Mordred's a homunculus, so it's likely that they didn't actually have sex. Nasu only states that Morgan 'used magic to obtain Saber's sperm' and then used it to make Mordred. Everything else is speculation.
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>>101002804
There is no time in the throne of heroes.

Their memories from there take the form of them sitting around in a big library and reading about all the other various spirits and legends from across time.
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>>101002804
They are just like data.

The Throne of Heroes is not some kind of garden or something, is just a manifestation of all humanity hope and despair in one metaphysical place. It's a big jungian archetype for say it some way.
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>>101002804
It's outside time and space and they are not even alive there, they are just an idea.
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So... How do I summon moot?
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>>101003111
>>101002889
What would have happened if Saber died? Other heroes would just have another copy summoned right? Would you just not be able to summon Arthur any more?
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>>101003790
Find his tiara
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>>101003825
to clarify i mean died during one of the holy grail wars
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>>101003825
>>101004256

Gets launched back to the hill at Camlann, then uploaded again to the next summoning chapter.

She's not a servant construct but she's still only here due to time shenanigans, killing her will just undo the time shenanigans and so she will never be killed.
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>>101002091
How does anyone even like this megacunt, Saber is clearly the best girl, at least she isn't a fucking bitch 80% of the time.
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>>101003825
>>101004256
Saber did die in both Grail Wars, but it doesn't affect her in her own time. Her body is locked in time at Camlann, until her contract with the World is fulfilled. Or she gives up the contract, like at the end of Fate.
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>>101005010
I share her frustration at having to babysit that stupid little bastard besides, she's nice most of the time.



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