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So why do people say Lelouch lived? I just rewatched this and he obviously used his geass on people after Charles died, so there was no way he could've gotten Charles' Code.
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>>100993337
Also, I'm still on the fence with him living or dying, I'm not really sure. I mean I did see Nunally seeing his memories when she touched him
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>>100993337
>Wakamoto grabs Lelouch with his code hand before dying
>Assumption CC is talking to person in front of cart rather than to self out loud
>Would make Lelouch both Code and Geass holder at end, i.e. Code Geass, thus justifying the name of the show
>Would resolve Lelouch promising CC companionship, rather than it being another dropped plot thread
Those are the main reasons. Believe whatever outcome you prefer.
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>>100993523
>Nunally seeing his memories when she touched him.
Yeah... what's the general explanation for that in the Lelouch is dead side?
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>>100993880
I thought that was just Lelouch's flashback before he died, I didn't think Nunnally necessarily saw that part.
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>>100993880
She probably just knew. The same way as Kallen did.
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I didn't understand the part where Nina and the Earl and the other lady 'betrayed' Lelouch at the end. Why did they do that at the last second? Were they actually mad at him?

Also do they ever explain why he's called the Earl of Pudding?
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>>100993337
/a/ is full of children that want the good guy in their first anime to have a happy ending
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Lelouch is a poor man's Reinhard
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>>100994670
>I didn't understand the part where Nina and the Earl and the other lady 'betrayed' Lelouch at the end. Why did they do that at the last second? Were they actually mad at him?

He told them to do that. They knew about Zero Requiem along with Suzaku.
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>>100993337
Denial.

Fuck any faggot who wants him alive. It makes his sacrifice moot.
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>>100994930
such edge
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>>100993337
>I just rewatched this and he obviously used his geass on people after Charles died, so there was no way he could've gotten Charles' Code.

From what I understand the theory is that the code doesn't activate until the first time they die, or something like that.

Its pretty much just wishful thinking on their part though.
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>>100993798
I'm pretty sure the cart driver has purple eyes like Lelouch which may not be a big deal but it's supporting evidence
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>>100994981
>not being retarded means being edgy now

I could live with that.
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>>100993337
>watch Code Geass
>expect a train wreck
>get a lukewarm series with camp

I was disappointed that it was pretty good.
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>>100994930
>shittier to die than live forever and be forced to watch your beloved imouto die of old age.
Boring. Also thought the theory was that he didn't know he was going to end up an immortal (similar to CC not knowing the code was transferred to her until she got stabbed in the boob.)
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>>100995228

Its something you had to watch while it was airing.
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What was the point of making Lelouch's death emotional and putting a lot of emphasis in the piercing of his heart if he survived?

>>100995228
/a/ hates popular things. Most of the series hated here aren't as bad as they make them out to be.
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>>100995274
Maybe. I watched R2 over two days and kept waiting for the shark to jump, but it never happened. I actually liked it more than the first season, if you could believe it.

Sure it was melodramatic, convoluted and campy, but so was the first season.
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>>100995256
>be forced to watch your beloved imouto die of old age.
Hey now, that's just making it sound bad.

You just just as easily interpret it as him being about to watch his imouto live a long and fulfilling life.
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>>100995387
R2 had some shit that was just ridiculous. I hated everything about the gods and Charles' plan, Marianne was't dead etc. The battles were kind of repetitive too. The ending was spectacular and I still love it.
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I personally think death note is much more of a trainwreck, with it throwing in plot twists and bullshit explanations in literally every episode.
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>>100995304
Because then he ends up getting to grant CC's wish, meaning he gets to grant everyone's wishes when all's said and done. Instead of just most people's wishes.

If you assume he didn't know about the code until after getting killed once, it also means he was willing to sacrifice himself, thus making him not a hypocrite and echoing the whole "a king must be willing to sacrifice himself for those below him to move" that kept getting dropped through the series.
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The thing I most hated about CG is that every episode HAD to end in a cliffhanger. EVERYONE. It feels like that was the only reason Shirley existed.
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>>100995304

the man with a love for theatrics? he wanted the world to see his demise and put himself on the biggest stage for it. that's it. "Lelouch" was killed.
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didn't the director already confirmed his death? i think his body was even sent to the sun
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>>100995584
>The battles were kind of repetitive too.

Really? Huh. I found the battles in R1 a lot more bland and repetitive. I felt like 2's were more exciting to watch. But it's been almost five years since I've watched the show.
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>>100995584
man, remember that time Jeremiah beat a giant robot with his bare hands? that was pretty great.
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>>100995702
I'm talking about the way it was directed. Suzaku and Lelouch weren't acting like they knew they would survive.
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>>100995730

No, Damocles was sent into the sun.

Lelouch was officially confirmed dead, but then again Nunally was also officially confirmed dead before they pulled her back out, so who knows.
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>>100995730
You're talkkng about Schnizel right?
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>>100995730
writer said he was dead. Then he went to do VVV, so yeah, makes sense he'd say that.

Believe Taniguchi just politely refused to comment.
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>>100995921
Schiezel didn't die.
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>>100995961
Instead he got to live as a mind slave to Nunally and Spinzaku. Well, he wanted a cause to believe in, so I guess it could have been worse.
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Any screenshots for the live viewing during the last episode of geass?
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>>100995304
>>100995825
I think it's because since basically every person in the world would see that, they couldn't leave any room for doubt.
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How did Lelouch get away from everyone if he truly survived? Would Nunnally have helped him or something?
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>>100996495
You are slow. I'm talking about how the emphasis was put in the direction. The way it was presented to the watcher. Time slowed so we could see how his heart was pierced, and they showed Suzaku and Lelouch's internal thoughts. Everyone in the world didn't see that, we the watchers did. If both of them knew Lelouch wouldn't die, why did they act like that? It's not like anyone could see them.
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>>100996585
Jeremiah grabbed the body and retreated with all the Britannian troops surrounding the cavalcade. Doesn't seem to be a particularly big issue.

This would also be how he could have a grave where he's buried in the dead case.



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