Who is the greatest sword fighter in all of anime?
Hard mode: They don't use some kind of magic sword
NIGHTMARE MODE: They're just a normal person without any magic powers at all
Step the fuck up, he doesn't even need to hold the sword the right way to fuck you up
Ey hows about I buy that sword from you kid.
Why does Trunks need a sword again?
King Cold would like a word with you.
It's a gift from Tapion
>They don't use some kind of magic sword
That sword came from Tapion you know.
So he can never use it again after meeting goku
No it fucking didn't, that movie was full retard. Future Trunks never met Tapion, if he did he would have single handedly smoked Cell and the Androids as a kid.
This man know what he speaks of.
Too bad he's a baby-tier fighter when he doesn't have his sword, though.
>implying anyone else ever
>Not being the Sword that Cleaves Evil.
All these kids would get wrecked by the Fuhrer.
That just created a massive fucking plot hole.
Of course Z's already long since ended so I don't think this is ever going to be resolved.
Kinda hard to beat someone who IS their own sword.
This, threads over guys.
He will wreck anyone elses shit
>implying anyone can beat him
step up niggas
Speed always beats power you know.
Jin from Samurai Shamploo.
You don't kill 100 guys using just a normal sword by being slow
>able to quickly slice people in half with a 2 metre long slab of pure metal
Old and busted.
He swings around a huge sword with a ton of POWER and nothing else.
There's no real tact to it.
I don't like these guys who just walk by their opponent and cut them up so fast you can't even see it. That's inhuman.
>Speed always beats power
And he can't even speak English.
Not even the best swordsman in the show.
But Kagura is shit.
Bullshit, he's a master swordsman. If it was just power, he'd have gotten fucked the first time the indian ninjas showed up.
Nigga also doesn't kill, so he'll kick your ass to the ground no matter how many times you want to fight you.
The Fuhrer is only hard mode.
Assassin from Fate/Stay Night. The fantasy swordsman Sasaki Kojiro. Cut a swallow in mid-flight with no magic used at all. So what? He was brought into the Fifth Holy Grail War as a servant? This man would slay Saber had this been a battle without any Servant boosts and abilities.
Find me a better swordsman right now.
Go Japanese guy! Defend that little kid and his dog, FOR YOUR HONOR!
How so? He fucked up Kariya. The only possible contender is the gay assassin dude.
>They're just a normal person without any magic powers at all
In anime, holding a sword grants you magic powers.
>The strongest human in the world
Hakumen gets smoked by fucking Izaoyoi, and she can't swordfight for shit.
Guts is armored. That is enough to be invincible to Kenshin or any fast katana wielding faggot.
Hell, a leather armor would do the trick.
Nigga also doesn't kill, so he'll kick your ass to the ground no matter how many times you want to fight him.
Without servant boosts, Saber would have wrecked him.
But he is probably the greatest swordsman ever.
Mihawk or Killer Bee
Congrats on having never read the manga
Why is a noble mocking me for quoting simple logic?
>Watched Tenchi years ago
>Thought Tenchi was kind of weak compared to the cool shit going on in DBZ
>Find out later he's a living fucking god who can generate as many reality rending blade/wings as the universe allows
>all these people saying Guts is slow and doesn't have any speed
Its like you guys haven't even read the manga. He's 12 years old in Golden age when he is a Merc and he is running around the battlefield slaughtering people only using speed. Like 3 or 4 times in manga people fight him in tight spaces where he can't use his full brute strength and he still out duels them with ease. He isn't some dumb cave troll swinging a club haphazardly, he is a master swordsman, and if he wasnt he would have been dead about 6 pages into the first chapter
Guts is tuff
>no Goemon Ishikawa XIII
I knew /a/ was going to shit but I didn't know it was this bad.
It's a good thing that we can agree. Assassin is the greatest swordsman ever. New thread OP?
Awww shit, is that some Kenichi?
Seriously though, he'll beat anyone that isn't extremely magical, considering he killed skilled swordsman wielding broken as fuck swords while he was completely "unarmed".
Assassin a shit, fight Ryougi one on one and see what comes about.
you know it
Please stop fucking playing Idolmaster Miura.
You do realize that Guts swings that thing so fast that normal people can't track it's movement right? There are also few times he hasn't connected with a swing in the entire series. That's the definition of tact.
I don't think he plays that anymore.. He's just really sick.
Surely this guy wins Nightmare Mode.
>Implying he didn't move to KanColle
Oh sorry, I forgot that he doesn't use a Katana. I take it all back.
mihawk is stronger
Can he take on Guts, Kyoutoryuu, Kenshin, Tenchi, or Gintoki?
Nah, Tenchi is pure power with some fledgeling skills. YOSHO, now that nigga is pure skill.
I think I remember him deflecting laser beams with a wooden sword and shit in Universe.
>in all of anime
my vote still goes to ken sama
>Greatest super soldier in the world
>Smoked by some hick-kid grunt who picked up a sword for the first time 10 seconds ago
truly the only answer
Neither of the Shiki can defeat a servant, though.
Glad /a/ is still smart, not sure about that nightmare mode though
This whole thread is terrible with the exception of this guy >>100989288
>Ryougi can kill fucking concepts
>Implying she can't literally see the line from servant to master and cut it, or just eliminate the distance between her and the master then kill them
Also I was talking pure contest of skill if they both were human and Shiki couldn't use her eyes.
Goemon's ability is to cut anything that is 'worthless'. Worthiness is subjective and is left to be determined by plot significance.
He's overpowered as shit.
Well he can cut anything. Fighter planes, boulders, etc. He's also a classic character that gets referred to often.
I'm curios as to where they rank in order of power?
Fucking this. He is just a farmer with too much time on his hands. So he meets OP's Nightmare mode too.
>Goemon's ability is to cut anything that is 'worthless'.
What in the fucking fuck? There are literally no limitations to the things Goemon can cut. Except yams of course but who cares about a one-off
>On par with Kojirou's
Stop wanking your waifu, faggot. Ryougi's swordmanship is on par with Taiga's, who got shitted on by Saber, who is shit compared to Kojirou's. There is just no comparison between them.
Come back when Ryougi can break reality with PURE SKILL.
Mother fucking Seijuro Hiko
Well you know what they say, the Yam is mightier than the sword!
Shigurui's Iwamoto Kogan.
With Caster not being alive to support Kojiro, would that even matter? He still put Saber in a bind.
Shiki may contend with Assassin, but she isn't on his level by any means.
>the sword is too big so it doesn't count as skill
This motherfucker was out of his fucking mind.
Like, holy shit.
Shame he got beat by a hack.
Hell, everyone in the Kogan skull was full insane and powerful. They didn't give a shit and fucked anyone who looked at them funny to a degree that is just insane.
He isn't the strongest in his own series, what are you talking about?
They both acknowledge that he's the weaker swordfighter.
there is only one sensible answer
Also, the entire fight with Zodd showed how he was skilled, even using that insanely heavy sword.
Given a normal sword, he'd fuck anyone but his specialty is more with huge buster swords than normal sword, if people goes faster than him, he might lose. Then again, Guts has insane reflex so who knows.
>They didn't give a shit and fucked anyone who looked at them funny to a degree that is just insane
Samurais were like that in real life. They had the right to kill any peasant they wanted. Not including duels for muh honor
dex souls pls
Someone's forgetting the blind lady.
Nightmare mode cleared. No one beats Hijikata
My bad, did you also read the manga?
It's shit like that that makes me wonder if Vaganbond isn't as real as it could have been.
I get that Shigurui is probably over the limit of normality but damn.
That part Fujiki just staight up punches a group of samurais with his fucking fist just to show off he can beat the fuck out of anyone without even needing a sword was insane.
Or that part where someone insulted his master and he just straight up does a backflip without even moving position and kills the guy in front of him who insulted his master.
Just fucking insane.
I know you're trolling but I'll post this anyway
You're all forgetting this guy right here.
he's a vempire though
fails condition 2, hell "magic sword" is said in the fucking vid you posted
though I'm sure with a normal sword he would still wreck everyone posted here
Motherfucker ain't got shit on nearly everyone in Shigurui.
It made me see that Vaganbond and Musashi himself really isn't that impressive, especially when half his battles weren't that impressive.
The one where he fought that long spear guy was pretty good but everyone else he just raises his sword and beats them by using ''that'' and wins. And now he's a crippled fuck so he's likely going to use his double sword to hax his victories.
>Buying a priceless sword
No magic, no powers, no special sword, but he can take on the strongest aliens in the galaxy and increase his skills faster than a robot that automatically adapts to each new situation and grows stronger.
That's what Serpico thought, but Guts had beyond human stats so even his speed stat is almost as maxed as his strength.
Remember this guy? He could cut through mecha and gunships in his prime (pic related) as if it were nothing.
He also is a genuine samurai, not some asshole with a sword.
Seriously why am I getting ripped on for that?
We've already established Gatsu really is a speedy mothefucker anyways so why am I getting laughed at when Speed>Power has been not only preached but also demonstrated in literally every single piece of fiction ever written?
You're not seriously telling me there's a weakness right?
Replace literally with basically since I can't delete it now please.
Bullshit this entire thread will wreck any pitiful SnK mortals.
His master was the best
Did they make a manga out of Zatoichi?
I thought Gintama was a comedy not a shounen. There's action involved?
I went to check if someone posted the correct answer. I'm glad you did, anon.
Thread is over.
The best pedophile swordsman
>all of these answers not Guts
I'm a firm zorofag, and I still think Guts is better
>though I'm sure with a normal sword he would still wreck everyone posted here
Exactly.He's even used non-magical weapons on several occasions in the show.
Don't get me wrong, I'm one of those faggots who has a super soft spot for Sephiroth.
But he aint no Guts, or Goemon. Certainly ranks a mention though.
This guy's up there. Although he doesn't clear nightmare mode because he is a Regenerator, although he is significantly less powered than those he fights (until lolHelena'sNail).
>That smooth, featureless torso
I still wish they'd revisit that and give it the ending it deserves.
40% comedy, 30% action, 30% Drama
Somewhere around there at least, but maybe slightly more comedy than that. Still it hovers around being all three of those things as there are serious moments and bloodshed moments as well as a lot of comedy. The first action arc happens around episode 68, which is why people always tell others to at least hang in there watching until around that point. Since when it gets serious it generally gets pretty damn good.
This video lacks sound due to copyright, but it still serves some point.
Same video, but with sound
not for long, zoro will win next time they fight
Non-terrible quality this time
he's on nightmore mode. shichika is just a normal boy, growing up honed as a sword by his murderous dad.
I love Vagabond but I feel like swordsmanship is one of the least interesting parts in it. I'm much more interested in the people and the world.
This guy reflect laser beams and wrecks robots, while maintaining that face, holy shit.
Mugen. Now we're done.
Guts is on a different level of physical ability.
Miyamoto isn't agile enough to come withing 10 feet without getting murdered.
Not to mention that Guts also wears plate armor.
You Mean berserker armor right?
Musashi is fucking dead.
Guts could kill him in less than 5 seconds.
500 pounds anon.
We did the math.
It's 500 at the largest it's shown.
250-300 at the smallest it's shown.
Nah, just his regular plate before he got that. Berserker isn't in the spirit of OP, Guts ceases to fight at a human level with that shit. He cracks solid corundum crystal and hit harder than a cannon while hopping around like a giant flea on angel dust.
Miyamoto sinks Gut's boat with a hoe.
I just lost my shit
Musashi would not be able to withstand Nosferatu Zoddo in his humanoid form, but Guts fought him to a standstill.
>Guts ceases to fight at a human level with that shit
He hasn't fought at a human level since he was 14 years old.
He's fast enough to block attack at literally supersonic speeds, even if he can't actually handle the force behind the blow.
He plays on nightmare mode even when other people are on easy mode.
But anon, Guts stopped fighting at a human level when he was fighting Wyled or whatever the monkey apostle was. After the eclipse he swings a freaking sword that's more closer to car.
Musashi would be smart enough to know that he should walk the fuck away even though his bloodlust would call him a fag for doing it
at least until the old men's spirits pissed all over it
You know what I meant, the Brand is the only reason he's able to use the Dragonslayer because it lets his will have more sway over his body as a slightly spiritual being.
The stuff Guts was doing in Golden Age was matched by a few other humans like Bascogne (who guts said was worse than fighting 100 men) and this cool guy who held a bridge against an army alone and forced Guts back in a 1v1.
could Raiden hold his own against guts?
>it has been 1 year and 2 weeks since the last berserk chapter came out
No anon, He's always been using incredibly large weapons and was always incredibly strong. He could have wielded the Dragonslayer even during the Golden Age Arc.
Hell I think the Eclipse would have went a bit different if Guts had that giant hunk of sword.
Musashi has full movement back in his leg now
None of the swords he used were anywhere near as large as the Dragonslayer, and the first time Zodd fights him after the Eclipse he remarks on how Gut's body has made a remarkable gain in strength from before.
I don't have the scan saved but there's a page where Schierke talks about how the Brand made Guts slightly more than human.
>forced Guts back in a 1v1.
That's complete bullshit and you know it.
Guts didn't even have the strength to swing his sword, and he still failed to land an actual hit.
Guts blocked him even when his vision went out for a few moments.
>it lets his will have more sway over his body as a slightly spiritual being.
Guts was a monster, especially after his year of solitary training.
I don't think his meat mincer counts as a sword.
>but there's a page where Schierke talks about how the Brand made Guts slightly more than human.
HAWK SCAN DETECTED
You can ignore it completely.
alright niggers, suggestions on good sword fighting anime?
sword of the stranger
did you ever stop to think about how people devote their entire lives to learning how to efficiently use a sharp stick to kill people
and if they don't have access to said sticks they're up shit creek without a paddle
Nope, He had Godo fogre him a much smaller one similar to the swords he used in golden age, but then it snapped in half against the swine apostle and he grabbed the Dragonslayer in desperation.
I'm sure that he was strong enough to wield the sword, he was always a little bit outside reality that's why skull bro told him since he began his life in the mud and close to death so he always good get away from its grip. Guts trained every day always putting on more and more weight on his swords. He was strong enough to wield it at the end of the Golden Age arc.
You should be ashamed.
The reason he can wield the Dragonslayer is because he's been using over-sized weapons his entire life and he would train with weights strapped to his blade.
He also had NO trouble wielding Zodd's large sword.
>H-how dare you use different scans for pages with no dialogue
Deal with it autismal
>All these posers
>No mention of Gourry
You're losing it, anons.
>but sword of light
Only proves that he's LETHAL to mazoku instead of just formidable. Fucker can put most of this list to bed.
That wasn't nearly as large as the Dragonslayer and he only slashed once with it, not nearly comparable to swinging around the DS dozens of time a fight like he did with the brand.
The brand line is ALSO in the dark horse translation, so...yeah.
>The brand line is ALSO in the dark horse translation, so...yeah.
Or tell me the volume.
>That fucking hilt
>Still get your shit pushed in
You don't fuck with people that can take down mechs without a mech.
I just want to post it, that's all
How heavy is Guts's sword anyway?
>no one's posted this guy
Heavier than you.
Haven't read a doujinshi in weeks, but this is just what I need. Oh man.
Too many avgn lately.
I think he's irish or something
What's with the annoying faggot that always bitches about hawk scans?
darkhorse da best
His sword is a made of wood that he buys off a shopping channel too.
Drakul Mihawk is definitely stronger than Guts.
No offense for guts though, but whoever read One Piece can easily notice how overpowered One Piece characters are
I'm not sure he could beat human Griffith in a duel
I want back my sexy Puck
Not that fucking chestnut
The sensitive, kind, weak counterpart to an evil Guts
I hate that his role was taken by shierke
>anything else than retarded inconsistent power level bullshit
I would go so homo for a human-sized Puck.
Bitches don't know 'bout the hand of God
BATTOSAI THE MANSLAYER
Kenshin Himura or Goemon
dat ass man, dat ass
He got cheated out of that battle. Jin had a crazy move, sure, but honestly that should have ended in neither of them winning. The only reason Jin won was because he's plot armored.
Did /a/ forget bout him?
The greatest and the manliest.