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Who is the greatest sword fighter in all of anime?

Hard mode: They don't use some kind of magic sword
NIGHTMARE MODE: They're just a normal person without any magic powers at all
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Step the fuck up, he doesn't even need to hold the sword the right way to fuck you up
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>>100987979
Ey hows about I buy that sword from you kid.
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>>100988165
/thread.
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Why does Trunks need a sword again?
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>>100988215
King Cold would like a word with you.
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>>100988309
It's a gift from Tapion
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>>100987979
>They don't use some kind of magic sword

That sword came from Tapion you know.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbAzgn_fTiM
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>>100988309
So he can never use it again after meeting goku
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>>100988393
>>100988361

No it fucking didn't, that movie was full retard. Future Trunks never met Tapion, if he did he would have single handedly smoked Cell and the Androids as a kid.
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>>100987979
>zorofagging intensifies
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>>100988081
This man know what he speaks of.
Too bad he's a baby-tier fighter when he doesn't have his sword, though.
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>implying anyone else ever
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>>100988397
This.
>2014
>Not being the Sword that Cleaves Evil.
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All these kids would get wrecked by the Fuhrer.
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>>100988476
That just created a massive fucking plot hole.

Of course Z's already long since ended so I don't think this is ever going to be resolved.
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No Guts?
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>>100988551
Kinda hard to beat someone who IS their own sword.
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>>100988551
This, threads over guys.
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He will wreck anyone elses shit
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>implying anyone can beat him

step up niggas
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>>100988650
>>100988666
Speed always beats power you know.

Just saying.
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Jin from Samurai Shamploo.
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>>100988761
You don't kill 100 guys using just a normal sword by being slow
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>>100988476
>Movies
>Canon
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>>100988761
>Guts
>able to quickly slice people in half with a 2 metre long slab of pure metal
>not speed
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>>100988719

Old and busted.
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>>100988616
>>100988650
>>100988666
No.
He swings around a huge sword with a ton of POWER and nothing else.

There's no real tact to it.
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I don't like these guys who just walk by their opponent and cut them up so fast you can't even see it. That's inhuman.
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>>100988761
>Speed always beats power
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And he can't even speak English.
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>>100988775

Not even the best swordsman in the show.
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>>100988808
But Kagura is shit.
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>>100988826
Bullshit, he's a master swordsman. If it was just power, he'd have gotten fucked the first time the indian ninjas showed up.
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>>100988081
Nigga also doesn't kill, so he'll kick your ass to the ground no matter how many times you want to fight you.
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>>100988580
The Fuhrer is only hard mode.

>>100987979
Assassin from Fate/Stay Night. The fantasy swordsman Sasaki Kojiro. Cut a swallow in mid-flight with no magic used at all. So what? He was brought into the Fifth Holy Grail War as a servant? This man would slay Saber had this been a battle without any Servant boosts and abilities.

Find me a better swordsman right now.
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This guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFvRgIR5re0


Go Japanese guy! Defend that little kid and his dog, FOR YOUR HONOR!
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>>100988866
Yoda please
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>>100988877
How so? He fucked up Kariya. The only possible contender is the gay assassin dude.
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>>100987979
>They're just a normal person without any magic powers at all
In anime, holding a sword grants you magic powers.
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>>100988899
>The strongest human in the world
>Shit

Hakumen gets smoked by fucking Izaoyoi, and she can't swordfight for shit.
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no contest
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>>100988826
Guts is armored. That is enough to be invincible to Kenshin or any fast katana wielding faggot.
Hell, a leather armor would do the trick.
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>>100988081
Nigga also doesn't kill, so he'll kick your ass to the ground no matter how many times you want to fight him.
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>>100988907
Without servant boosts, Saber would have wrecked him.

But he is probably the greatest swordsman ever.
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Mihawk or Killer Bee
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>>100988826

Congrats on having never read the manga
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>>100988859
Why is a noble mocking me for quoting simple logic?
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>>100988922
>Watched Tenchi years ago
>Thought Tenchi was kind of weak compared to the cool shit going on in DBZ
>Find out later he's a living fucking god who can generate as many reality rending blade/wings as the universe allows
>Literally unstoppable
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>all these people saying Guts is slow and doesn't have any speed

Its like you guys haven't even read the manga. He's 12 years old in Golden age when he is a Merc and he is running around the battlefield slaughtering people only using speed. Like 3 or 4 times in manga people fight him in tight spaces where he can't use his full brute strength and he still out duels them with ease. He isn't some dumb cave troll swinging a club haphazardly, he is a master swordsman, and if he wasnt he would have been dead about 6 pages into the first chapter
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>>100988826
Guts is tuff
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>ctrl+f
>no Goemon Ishikawa XIII
I knew /a/ was going to shit but I didn't know it was this bad.
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>>100988997
It's a good thing that we can agree. Assassin is the greatest swordsman ever. New thread OP?
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>>100989089

Awww shit, is that some Kenichi?
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>>100989095

followed by
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>>100988551
Seriously though, he'll beat anyone that isn't extremely magical, considering he killed skilled swordsman wielding broken as fuck swords while he was completely "unarmed".
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>>100989177

Assassin a shit, fight Ryougi one on one and see what comes about.
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>>100989178
you know it
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Moemon XIII
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>>100989095
>>100989195
>>100989136
Please stop fucking playing Idolmaster Miura.

Please.
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>>100988761
>>100988826
You do realize that Guts swings that thing so fast that normal people can't track it's movement right? There are also few times he hasn't connected with a swing in the entire series. That's the definition of tact.
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>>100989329
I don't think he plays that anymore.. He's just really sick.
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Surely this guy wins Nightmare Mode.
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>>100989382
>Implying he didn't move to KanColle
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>>100989373
Oh sorry, I forgot that he doesn't use a Katana. I take it all back.
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>>100988517

mihawk is stronger
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>>100989142
Can he take on Guts, Kyoutoryuu, Kenshin, Tenchi, or Gintoki?
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>>100989466
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>>100989565
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>>100988922
Nah, Tenchi is pure power with some fledgeling skills. YOSHO, now that nigga is pure skill.

I think I remember him deflecting laser beams with a wooden sword and shit in Universe.
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>in all of anime

my vote still goes to ken sama
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>>100989565
>Greatest super soldier in the world
>Smoked by some hick-kid grunt who picked up a sword for the first time 10 seconds ago
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>>100989635
truly the only answer
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>>100989257
Neither of the Shiki can defeat a servant, though.
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>>100988551
Glad /a/ is still smart, not sure about that nightmare mode though
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Cure Sword
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This whole thread is terrible with the exception of this guy >>100989288
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>>100989684
>Ryougi can kill fucking concepts
>Implying she can't literally see the line from servant to master and cut it, or just eliminate the distance between her and the master then kill them

Also I was talking pure contest of skill if they both were human and Shiki couldn't use her eyes.
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>>100989549
Goemon's ability is to cut anything that is 'worthless'. Worthiness is subjective and is left to be determined by plot significance.

He's overpowered as shit.
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>>100989549
Well he can cut anything. Fighter planes, boulders, etc. He's also a classic character that gets referred to often.
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>>100989549
I'm curios as to where they rank in order of power?
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>>100989177
Fucking this. He is just a farmer with too much time on his hands. So he meets OP's Nightmare mode too.
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>>100989920
>Goemon's ability is to cut anything that is 'worthless'.
What in the fucking fuck? There are literally no limitations to the things Goemon can cut. Except yams of course but who cares about a one-off
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>>100989257
>Ryougi's swormanship
>On par with Kojirou's

Stop wanking your waifu, faggot. Ryougi's swordmanship is on par with Taiga's, who got shitted on by Saber, who is shit compared to Kojirou's. There is just no comparison between them.

Come back when Ryougi can break reality with PURE SKILL.
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Mother fucking Seijuro Hiko
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>>100988907
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e51hgWIsY4M
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>>100990067
Well you know what they say, the Yam is mightier than the sword!
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Shigurui's Iwamoto Kogan.
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>>100989808
With Caster not being alive to support Kojiro, would that even matter? He still put Saber in a bind.

Shiki may contend with Assassin, but she isn't on his level by any means.

>>100990103
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>>100988826
>the sword is too big so it doesn't count as skill
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>>100990232
This motherfucker was out of his fucking mind.
Like, holy shit.
Shame he got beat by a hack.
Hell, everyone in the Kogan skull was full insane and powerful. They didn't give a shit and fucked anyone who looked at them funny to a degree that is just insane.
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NIGHTMARE MODE
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>>100988978
>>100988547

He isn't the strongest in his own series, what are you talking about?
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Gintoki ofc
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>>100988940
They both acknowledge that he's the weaker swordfighter.
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>>100987979
there is only one sensible answer
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>>100989195
>>100989095
Also, the entire fight with Zodd showed how he was skilled, even using that insanely heavy sword.
Given a normal sword, he'd fuck anyone but his specialty is more with huge buster swords than normal sword, if people goes faster than him, he might lose. Then again, Guts has insane reflex so who knows.
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>>100990334
>They didn't give a shit and fucked anyone who looked at them funny to a degree that is just insane
Samurais were like that in real life. They had the right to kill any peasant they wanted. Not including duels for muh honor
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>>100989101
dex souls pls
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>>100988940
>Kariya
Someone's forgetting the blind lady.
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Nightmare mode cleared. No one beats Hijikata
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>>100990334
Kogan school*
My bad, did you also read the manga?

>>100990479
It's shit like that that makes me wonder if Vaganbond isn't as real as it could have been.

I get that Shigurui is probably over the limit of normality but damn.

That part Fujiki just staight up punches a group of samurais with his fucking fist just to show off he can beat the fuck out of anyone without even needing a sword was insane.

Or that part where someone insulted his master and he just straight up does a backflip without even moving position and kills the guy in front of him who insulted his master.

Just fucking insane.
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>>100988761
I know you're trolling but I'll post this anyway
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You're all forgetting this guy right here.
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>>100989540
he's a vempire though
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>>100990194
fails condition 2, hell "magic sword" is said in the fucking vid you posted
though I'm sure with a normal sword he would still wreck everyone posted here
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>>100990808
Motherfucker ain't got shit on nearly everyone in Shigurui.
It made me see that Vaganbond and Musashi himself really isn't that impressive, especially when half his battles weren't that impressive.

The one where he fought that long spear guy was pretty good but everyone else he just raises his sword and beats them by using ''that'' and wins. And now he's a crippled fuck so he's likely going to use his double sword to hax his victories.
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>>100988215
>Buying a priceless sword
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>>100988165
No magic, no powers, no special sword, but he can take on the strongest aliens in the galaxy and increase his skills faster than a robot that automatically adapts to each new situation and grows stronger.
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>>100988761
That's what Serpico thought, but Guts had beyond human stats so even his speed stat is almost as maxed as his strength.
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Remember this guy? He could cut through mecha and gunships in his prime (pic related) as if it were nothing.
He also is a genuine samurai, not some asshole with a sword.
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>>100990499
Seriously why am I getting ripped on for that?

We've already established Gatsu really is a speedy mothefucker anyways so why am I getting laughed at when Speed>Power has been not only preached but also demonstrated in literally every single piece of fiction ever written?

You're not seriously telling me there's a weakness right?
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>>100991313
ahem.
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>>100991374
Replace literally with basically since I can't delete it now please.
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>>100989399
Bullshit this entire thread will wreck any pitiful SnK mortals.
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>>100988081
See >>100990111
His master was the best
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Did they make a manga out of Zatoichi?
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>>100988165
I thought Gintama was a comedy not a shounen. There's action involved?
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>>100988786
mah ninja
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>>100996425
Yep. Sometimes.
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>>100990111
this
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>>100988551
I went to check if someone posted the correct answer. I'm glad you did, anon.

Thread is over.
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>>100990657
The best pedophile swordsman
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>all of these answers not Guts
I'm a firm zorofag, and I still think Guts is better
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Easy
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>>100988899
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EPy7BeTV8Y

Nope.avi
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>>100989724
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>>100990829
>though I'm sure with a normal sword he would still wreck everyone posted here

Exactly.He's even used non-magical weapons on several occasions in the show.
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>>100989565
Don't get me wrong, I'm one of those faggots who has a super soft spot for Sephiroth.

But he aint no Guts, or Goemon. Certainly ranks a mention though.
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This guy's up there. Although he doesn't clear nightmare mode because he is a Regenerator, although he is significantly less powered than those he fights (until lolHelena'sNail).
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>>100988967
>That smooth, featureless torso
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>>100990194
I still wish they'd revisit that and give it the ending it deserves.
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>>100996425
40% comedy, 30% action, 30% Drama

Somewhere around there at least, but maybe slightly more comedy than that. Still it hovers around being all three of those things as there are serious moments and bloodshed moments as well as a lot of comedy. The first action arc happens around episode 68, which is why people always tell others to at least hang in there watching until around that point. Since when it gets serious it generally gets pretty damn good.

This video lacks sound due to copyright, but it still serves some point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG8LebSm3R8
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>>100996425
>>101006167
Same video, but with sound

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xt7kzr_gintoki-and-katsura-shinyaku-benizakura-hen_shortfilms
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>>100989540
not for long, zoro will win next time they fight
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>>101006274
Non-terrible quality this time

http://vimeo.com/52782843
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>>100987979
easy peesie
this >>100988081
and>>100990111
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>>100989693
he's on nightmore mode. shichika is just a normal boy, growing up honed as a sword by his murderous dad.
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>>100990808
I love Vagabond but I feel like swordsmanship is one of the least interesting parts in it. I'm much more interested in the people and the world.
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This guy reflect laser beams and wrecks robots, while maintaining that face, holy shit.
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>>100987979
Mugen. Now we're done.
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Well /a/?
Who wins?
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>>101008597
Guts is on a different level of physical ability.
Miyamoto isn't agile enough to come withing 10 feet without getting murdered.
Not to mention that Guts also wears plate armor.
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>>101008682
You Mean berserker armor right?
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>>101008597
Musashi is fucking dead.
Guts could kill him in less than 5 seconds.
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>>101009356
500 pounds anon.
We did the math.
It's 500 at the largest it's shown.
250-300 at the smallest it's shown.
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>>101008792

Nah, just his regular plate before he got that. Berserker isn't in the spirit of OP, Guts ceases to fight at a human level with that shit. He cracks solid corundum crystal and hit harder than a cannon while hopping around like a giant flea on angel dust.
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>>101008597
Miyamoto sinks Gut's boat with a hoe.
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>>100991051
I just lost my shit
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>>101008597

Musashi would not be able to withstand Nosferatu Zoddo in his humanoid form, but Guts fought him to a standstill.
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>>101009536
>Guts ceases to fight at a human level with that shit
He hasn't fought at a human level since he was 14 years old.
He's fast enough to block attack at literally supersonic speeds, even if he can't actually handle the force behind the blow.
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>>100989693
He plays on nightmare mode even when other people are on easy mode.
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>>101009536
But anon, Guts stopped fighting at a human level when he was fighting Wyled or whatever the monkey apostle was. After the eclipse he swings a freaking sword that's more closer to car.
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>>101008597

Musashi would be smart enough to know that he should walk the fuck away even though his bloodlust would call him a fag for doing it

at least until the old men's spirits pissed all over it
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>>101009748

You know what I meant, the Brand is the only reason he's able to use the Dragonslayer because it lets his will have more sway over his body as a slightly spiritual being.

The stuff Guts was doing in Golden Age was matched by a few other humans like Bascogne (who guts said was worse than fighting 100 men) and this cool guy who held a bridge against an army alone and forced Guts back in a 1v1.
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could Raiden hold his own against guts?
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>it has been 1 year and 2 weeks since the last berserk chapter came out
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>>101009877
No anon, He's always been using incredibly large weapons and was always incredibly strong. He could have wielded the Dragonslayer even during the Golden Age Arc.
Hell I think the Eclipse would have went a bit different if Guts had that giant hunk of sword.
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>>100990962

Musashi has full movement back in his leg now

just saying
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>>101010012

None of the swords he used were anywhere near as large as the Dragonslayer, and the first time Zodd fights him after the Eclipse he remarks on how Gut's body has made a remarkable gain in strength from before.

I don't have the scan saved but there's a page where Schierke talks about how the Brand made Guts slightly more than human.
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>>101009877
>forced Guts back in a 1v1.
That's complete bullshit and you know it.
Guts didn't even have the strength to swing his sword, and he still failed to land an actual hit.
Guts blocked him even when his vision went out for a few moments.
>it lets his will have more sway over his body as a slightly spiritual being.
Unconfirmed.
Guts was a monster, especially after his year of solitary training.
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>>101009898
I don't think his meat mincer counts as a sword.
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>>101010094
>but there's a page where Schierke talks about how the Brand made Guts slightly more than human.
HAWK SCAN DETECTED
You can ignore it completely.
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alright niggers, suggestions on good sword fighting anime?
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>>100988650
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>>101010229

sword of the stranger
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hey /a/,

did you ever stop to think about how people devote their entire lives to learning how to efficiently use a sharp stick to kill people

and if they don't have access to said sticks they're up shit creek without a paddle
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>>101010012

Nope, He had Godo fogre him a much smaller one similar to the swords he used in golden age, but then it snapped in half against the swine apostle and he grabbed the Dragonslayer in desperation.
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>>101010094
I'm sure that he was strong enough to wield the sword, he was always a little bit outside reality that's why skull bro told him since he began his life in the mud and close to death so he always good get away from its grip. Guts trained every day always putting on more and more weight on his swords. He was strong enough to wield it at the end of the Golden Age arc.
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>>101010346
>more hawkscans
You should be ashamed.
The reason he can wield the Dragonslayer is because he's been using over-sized weapons his entire life and he would train with weights strapped to his blade.
He also had NO trouble wielding Zodd's large sword.
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>>101010474

>H-how dare you use different scans for pages with no dialogue

Deal with it autismal
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>>100988922
This
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>All these posers
>No mention of Gourry

You're losing it, anons.

>but sword of light

Only proves that he's LETHAL to mazoku instead of just formidable. Fucker can put most of this list to bed.
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>>101010474

That wasn't nearly as large as the Dragonslayer and he only slashed once with it, not nearly comparable to swinging around the DS dozens of time a fight like he did with the brand.

The brand line is ALSO in the dark horse translation, so...yeah.
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>>101010691
>The brand line is ALSO in the dark horse translation, so...yeah.
Oh yeah?
Post it.
Or tell me the volume.
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>>101000560
>That fucking hilt
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>>101010304
>Disarm Valgus
>Still get your shit pushed in

You don't fuck with people that can take down mechs without a mech.
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I just want to post it, that's all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZWLpxTfnB8
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>>101010714
Still waiting
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How heavy is Guts's sword anyway?
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>no one's posted this guy
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>>101012810
Heavier than you.
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>>100989724
Haven't read a doujinshi in weeks, but this is just what I need. Oh man.
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>>101013060
IMPOSSIBLE
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>>101014562
Too many avgn lately.
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>>100988911
I think he's irish or something
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What's with the annoying faggot that always bitches about hawk scans?
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>>101016014
They suck?
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>>101016014
they're shit.

darkhorse da best
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>>100988165
This.
His sword is a made of wood that he buys off a shopping channel too.
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Drakul Mihawk is definitely stronger than Guts.

No offense for guts though, but whoever read One Piece can easily notice how overpowered One Piece characters are
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>>100989399
I'm not sure he could beat human Griffith in a duel
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>>100989095
I want back my sexy Puck
Not that fucking chestnut
The sensitive, kind, weak counterpart to an evil Guts
I hate that his role was taken by shierke
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>>100988476
>DBZ
>anything else than retarded inconsistent power level bullshit
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>>101020736
I would go so homo for a human-sized Puck.
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>>100987979
Bitches don't know 'bout the hand of God
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>>100987979
BATTOSAI THE MANSLAYER
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Kenshin Himura or Goemon
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>>101021610
dat ass man, dat ass
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>>101021890
He got cheated out of that battle. Jin had a crazy move, sure, but honestly that should have ended in neither of them winning. The only reason Jin won was because he's plot armored.
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Did /a/ forget bout him?
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Seijuro Hiko.
The greatest and the manliest.



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