>tfw no Tales of Xillia anime
tfw no Tales of Graces anime
>tales of graces
Tales games does not make for good anime. I guess the one for Abyss was an alright adaption for what it was, but I have never seen it discussed on /a/.
If they did a graces anime they would probably have to leave out the F arc, which is the best part
I like Tales games but the anime adaptions are always shit.
You have no idea how much I raged while trying to marathon the Tales of Eternia anime.
The Vesperia movie was kinda good.
Thank god, shit story & characters aside from Pascal.
The F arc is a shitty AsbelxCheria fic
I want to lick Milla's feet.
Nah, the characters were pretty good.
Shitbel was shit but everyone else was pretty decent... especially with Malik trolling the shit out of everyone and all the hilarity.
That could be done justice in an anime. That's pretty much the only thing though.
I wish Abyss anime had the look of Symphonia anime. Symphonia was beautiful but the plot was butchered. Abyss was at least almost completely accurate.
Wait wait, I am playing Tales of Graces F right now for the ps3 (english version) Does that mean I missed something?
I want a Summon Night anime with DinahXAera as canon.
Thinking of Agria in animated form makes me tingle.
She was such a generic "lol insane" character. I swear each Tales game I've played has one.
Why do you even want a Xillia anime, OP? Is the game not enough?
>shitty AsbelxCheria fic
Cannot disagree. That was the most shitty, badly written romance I ever saw in a tales series. Still, the rest of it was fine and I liked Richard in the party.
>playing to the EU version
>no delicious crazy Mayaa Sakamoto
The only other Tales character I can think of with a similar personality is Zagi. I actually called her chick Zagi for the longest time.
Get a hacked PS3 and play the undub then.
Even if it had the awful Asbel and Cheria stuff, I found the stuff between Hubert and Pascal hilarious. Malik and Richard's commentary was the best.
Tales romances are some serious fanfic tier shit. Namco will never gives a proper pairing either. This means that fujoshi whores keep making their disgusting homo fanfics and fanart about Tales guys.
AsbelxCheria is genderbent "nice guy" faggotry. Cheria as the "nice girl" who is entitled to get the "trophy guy" just for being a "nice girl"
Richard was so surpring, he turned out to be such a great comic character. Mask of Barona would be hilarious animated.
>awful Asbel and Cheria stuff
It's funny because it felt Richard was more of a aprent to Sophie than the two.
This is why I ship crack pairings.
Japan seems to like Tales's official pairings. ITOH, Japan has shit tastes
So who's official pairing for each game.
Richard and Sophie were downright hilarious together. I loved the stuff were they made their own secret clubhouse. The Mask of Barona was probably some of my favorite skits.
You know, a lot of people complain about the Graces cast but aside from Asbel and Cheria the others were fun. I suppose that's why they were perfect together, completely boring gets with equally boring.
It doesn't help that in Graces Cheria is such an annoying one dimensional thing you can't really ship her and Asbel. Their romance was done so terrible chemistry between Asbel and Richard was actually more believable.
They should have focused on Pascal's side of the romance instead of those two
Play Xillia 2
Why do you people respond to this kind of shitposting? Report and ignore.
I ship AsbelxSophie. I'm not even into shipping but it was so obvious they should be the main couple, until the "daughter" bullshit
Cless & Mint
Stahn & Rutee
Reid & Farah
Kyle & Reala
Lloyd & Colette
Veigue & Claire
Senel & Stella FUCK Shirley
Asch & Natalia
Yuri & Judith
Shing & Kohaku
Asbel & Cheria
Jude & Milla
Ludger & Milla
Slay & Alicia
Xillia came after Graces.
Release date fucking where?
D-don't toy with my heart anon.
Mel Blanc is dead so they wouldn't even be able to dub it properly.
I liked Alvin better with the loli
Only played translated ones, except for Legendia, but this is what I've seen on Tales cons:
Of course some of them are canon.
This. When they were kids it seemed clear to me Asbel and Sophie would be the main couple, I was annoyed when they changed it to adoption.
>chemistry between Asbel and Richard was actually more believable.
That last friendhsip pact during the credits certainly looked more romantic than Asbel asking Cheria to marry him
>Yuri & Judith
That's why Yuri and eStelle are in everything Vesperia related right?
>Yuri & Judith
I politely disagree.
I enjoy YurixJudith and EstellexRita, YurixEstelle is just my personal favorite.
Forgot to quote >>100964949
>Yuri paired with anyone
He's casual fuck buddies with Judith and Estelle's like his sister.
Legendia was SenelxShitley
Pascal is the best Graces F
Leia is still after Jude's cock and her VA said the interaction between Jude and Leia resembles to a married couple
Graces should have just been Pascal and Malik going around fixing shit.
At least in my post I just pointed out the "official couples", not my personal taste, Yuri and Estelle are shown together (with Flynn, sometimes) in pretty much everything Vesperia related (cameos in games, Tales cons, etc).
There's also EmilxMarta.
I'd understand repressing Symphonia 2, though.
Personally I thought it was basically implied that although feelings were there nothing could come of it since he's a vigilante and she's a princess, even if she isn't next in line.
I assumed as much.
You know, I got boed of it halfway through, but Chronicles will have dual audio, so maybe I'll get to actually finish it.
In the cameos Rita is often there and Namco loves making joke about her relationships with Estelle, actually in term of pure pairing EstellexRita is pushed more than YurixEstelle in the Radiant Mythology games and shit.
Though these games are made of crack either way.
Vesperia is more about the team as a big family as romance either way, the only pairing close to canon is KarolXNan
>In Radiant Mythology games
Actually it was EstellexFlynn in RM3.
Rita placed on the lab and her skits mostly serious.
pls bamco gibe us the meguca outfits in xilla 2
we wont get them
Have we EVER gotten anime cameo outfits?
Well, it's true that Namco loves to joke around with RitaxEstelle, but the point is that taking it seriously, YurixEstelle is more official than anything with Judith.
I agree that the game is more about the guild being a family though, serious romance would've ruined it.
Xillia had Idolmaster outfits.
Pascal is a beast soloing the final boss of Graces F on Chaos (not the post game F arc final boss)
Flynn only gives the vibe of a loyal servant, not a love interest.
If anything, I'd say he's pretty gay about Yuri.
Was Tear a pedophile since Luke was technically 7?
No, she was just a shitty chracter.
>I'd say he's pretty gay about Yuri.
That fucking battle between them. That fucking feel when you being left out.
What do you think the Tales game on PS4 will look like?
See me after class.
Symphonia adaptation wasnt absolutely cringe worthy.
He's right though. She's a hypocrite.
You have not watched Phantasia's, now, that was shit.
Like Xillia/Zestiria I guess
I've only ever seen two episodes of it and it was years ago.
Is the only patch around still only for the menus?
I can only get some phrases here and there (if it's voiced), but not way of understanding all the dialogue.
And ur a faget.
It was inaccurate but I appreciated that the characters still looked like Kōsuke Fujishima characters.
>Is the only patch around still only for the menus?
it doesn't matter
anyone with long hair and garter belt can't be anything but great
Fuck lesbians, this is the best pairing in Vesperia.
Being a hypocrite has nothing to do with whether a character is bad or not.
That's not Yuri & Judith
Tear is voiced by Yukana the slut that slept around to win voice roles, instantly can't be a good character
That's a shitty pairing that doesn't make much sense story-wise, since after Rita, Judith is the least close to Yuri.
>playing in Japanese
>Not playing undubs
>Listening to cringe worthy dub
>Not playing undub.
>Miyuki Sawashiro deliciously voiced Milla
>Tomokazu Sugita as Alvin
>Not in English release, horrible lisp shit voice actress
FUCK YOU SCAMCO
While those 2 are great, gotta say Alvin's voice in english was pretty fucking good too.
>not buying and playing the game on release
Seriously though, it was the only reasonable option at the time. Only Anise sucked, everyone else was pretty good. Especially Jade.
I can't play Tales Games without hammy voice acting.
Although original jap is good though.
>Tales of Symphonia PS3 gets dual audio
FUCK YOU SCAMCO
What an awful, awful party composition.
>You will never have Sophie for a daughteru
How does that make you feel /a/?
Who cares about party composition when you have waifus?
>caring about party comp in an action RPG
Symphonia HD ending
Japanese dub is so much better
Collector's edition is sold out on Amazon, god dammit.
ok because I can still have her as a wife.
best tales villain?
zelos was a bro. fuck all of you.
Agreed. It was hard to disagree with his decision. That world truly was a piece of shit.
Zelos lives, canon in Symphonia 2
In before mad Kratosfags
It felt so good to kill that asshole.
such pleb taste
Best villain is Dhaos
I picked him.
He was just too pretty, seriously.
here what i thought of graces cast
assbel: typical MC number 1045. friendship is everything for him. total fag
sophie: soulless doll number 549. she is mostly boring as fuck but she has her cute loil moments if that's your thing sick fuck. shes Jesus
cheria:the "mother" of the group. typical pure maiden lusting after the mc cock. but like all mc, asbel cant see it because he wants to befriend Richard more.
malik: typical old wise mentor number 1076. for half the game hes just there until he decides to troll the party with pascal. likes fucking with sopihes mind and mostlikely a pedophile.
hubert: /k/ and /a/ love child. hes actually pretty smart but suffers from otaku syndrome and nerd rage. pretty cool guy in general.
also hates asbel for half the game because daddy issues
pscal: 100% altruism and the best character. her roll is to flash out everyone by acting like a retard. shes wants to rape Sophie and has a thing for her sister. she never baths.
Richard: king with trust issues. he joins maliks and pascals trolling team and exist for making the skits funny. pretty much that.
lambda: actually not your ANCIENT EVIL BOSS. hes a monster thing that got treated badly in the name of SCIENCE. his "dad" was so busy "playing" with him, he didint give hes "lover" enough dick making her so burthurt she ended up dooming the hole planet. lambda grow up to be a edgy faggot that hates humanity but asbel being the moralfag he is, convinced him stop.
he gives you free power ups later in the game so hes not that useless.
little queen: lamda 2.0 only shes actually a threat and can kick your ass if not careful.mad silly humans are destroying MUH NATURE so she killed them off over 100 years ago. she and Sophie becomes one and for some reason shes an "adult" now with tits bigger then cheria.
why assbel has no threesome is beyond my understanding
I cried when I died
Gaius was a Naruto-tier villain
Am I the only one who ships Richard x Sophie?
Typing that made me feel like I've lost control of my life.
Milla is the best Tales
The only good thing about Symphonia 2 was beating the shit out of Marta near the end, I got the bad ending in the first run
Yeah, pretty much, with Rita coming up juuuuuust behind her.
>With dual audio you can beat the shit out of Kugyu.
Sorry bro, nepotism trumps friendship
With looks to match.
Marta is mai waifu, you take that shit back!
you sick fuck
>Abysskid still thinks it had the best characters
Not even best Xillia.
Milla will never return and Leia is Jude's only chance to not die as a virgin
Do you fags even Xillia 2?
I wish someone shut up Gaius's fascistic rants, kinda like Athena did with Saga at the end of Saint Seiya's 12 houses arc. Both Saga and Gaius were megalomaniac faggots with a god-tier power that tried to become gods and rule over the world because only the strong one can guide mankind so they think mass murder is OK.
Leia is still into Jude on Xillia 2 and her VA compare their interaction on Xillia 2 to an old married couple
Still best girl.
That's not Milla
Xillia 2, don't watch if don't want to be spoiled
What are they doing, /a/?
Closest i remember is Presea's Klonoa outfit
He's an extremely weak villain, mainly because anyone would react like him ("Fucking mana-hungry people completely killed their world because of their hunger, tried to dominate our world to give us the same fate but we can now strike back extremely hard and wipe them out single handedly? No, let's only banish them back in their dying world until they swear they'll never do that shit again and then bring them to our world.") but the plot decided he should be the villain and thus pulled retarded shit in like the last hour of the game to try to justify it.
That's why he's probably one of the weakest entry as a villain in JRPG, his views are extremely rational and mostly fair given what he saw of the people of Elympios and I don't remember him killing a single person over it unless being provoked. It's obvious he was planned to be the last party member in Xillia with probably a crazy Musee as the final boss but they didn't have the time to do it.
Actually, Gaius wanted to kill all the people from Elympios but the western dub cut it
Which is why I prefer the original arc, which is pretty much a well-done AsbelxRichard fic.
"He's such a kind man... it's the trait I love most in him. I must take... GOOD care of him."
I cracked up during that part.
I just remember his castle being very big and confusing. They don't make awesome levels like that in tales games anymore.
Dual audio will make the sequel bearable. I loved the first game's dub, but holy shit they could not have fucked the second game's dub any more than they did.
I forgot how much more I like Colette when her voice isn't like nails on a chalkboard.
>Leia is Jude's only chance to not die as a virgin
There's also Elize you know. They're only two years apart.
Leia seems to be more into Jude than Elize, they also has more history together
Finally, a thread dedicated to the best girl. Finished the game a month ago, and it was mediocre at best. I hated the part where Miusel betrayed Maxwell and slammed him to the Lance, and the final battle was so easy as hell. I didn't like the ending either especially when Leia gave up her ambition to become a nurse. Housekeeper really?
Hubert and Pascal is by far my favorite paring.
I really wish a epilogue or some soft of short after story can be setup for them.
>especially when Leia gave up her ambition to become a nurse. Housekeeper really?
She becomes a reporter in the sequel.
Well, it would still only be giving back the dicking Elympios tried to give to Rieze Maxia, why the fuck would the localization censor that?
It really makes the whole cast look like retards and along with the "surprise auto-generated mana fountain" called sprites turn the plot into a fucking joke. Seriously, the last two hours of Xillia seems to be only powered by the developers going "Oops, we totally forgot to make Gaius into a real villain, let's try to add a lot of retarded justifications as to why he's the baddie!".
Lambda basically sensed Richard's inner homo and went with it in that scene
>Leia gave up her ambition to become a nurse. Housekeeper really?
- Leia wanted to be a nurse just for marrying Jude. It was pretty simple plan, Jude was a medicine student and his dad owned a clinic so Leia wanted to be a nurse for helping Jude in his family business. At the end of Xillia, Leia want to look for something for herself despite she still has feelings for Jude
- Leia become a reporter on Xillia 2
>tfw can't finish xillia
What went wrong with this game?
I just got Rowen and the game already feels like a chore to me.
Combat was sub-par. AI acts fucking retarded when linking in highlight of battle system of this game
I think Graces F combat was better.
Characters don't shine for me either.
Milla is boring. Jude isn't as interesting as Yuri.
Alvin is ok. Elysee is your typical shy loli which hate. Teepo is annoying. Rowen is ok.
Is Leia a genki type character?
>why the fuck would the localization censor that?
Pic related. Gaius's fascistic speeches didn't help
I fucking hate bamco for editing this scene in the non jap version.
Fuck the localisation team.
What's the damage on that?
What scene? I didn't know Pascal and Hubert had an edited scene
Xillia is a good game but it's a weak tales. You don't really get into the plot.
And i hate how today's games doesn't have much secondary quests just because all the extra items are shitty DLCs. DLCs are the cancer killing the game industry.
>I just got Rowen and the game already feels like a chore to me.
The whole, "Let's travel back to the very first city we saw!" part felt like a chore to me too, it gets way better once you get there.
>Is Leia a genki type character
Yes. But Alvin shoots the genki out of her with a well -placed bullet.
Ok, the only really thing that mad was the ending.
The following part:
Fuck Jude for been a white knight till the end!
Millia wanted to become human to jump on his dick so much. But nooo. Piece of shit Jude said: you should be Maxwell. Use the mana for that
Piece of shit made me really angry.
You could feel she wanted him. And Jude wanted that fine piece of a spirit.
I don't know about the dub, but the undub was filled with sexual tension between the two
I still love you, Jude. You had the best VA ever (only reason to watch Vanguard, really). But fuck you!
Wait, did you guys play Xillia 2 before its NA release? I actually spoiled myself a bit, but had no clue what's going on. I'm also waiting for Persona 5 next year.
>Not Jude and Leia
They're childhood friends, bro.
Who cares? Leia was boring.
>Implying childhood friends ever win in Japan
I think it's implied that Farah won over Reid since there's no competition.
She didn't even have a competitor.
It would have to make the story non canon.
Cause the story of Xillia sucked big time, mostly because it was rushed to all hell
Graces F is shit
Better than Symphonia 2
COURAGE IS THE MAGIC THAT CAN CHANGE FATE!
She had richard and sophie both of which would have been better with Asbel than her
Xillia 2 was a flop so Milla Returns: Tales of Xillia 3 will never happen. Leia is now all Jude has left.
Wait, it was a flop?
This is news to me. I thought it was in every way shape and form a better Xillia
It's the best tales game ever.
I thought the combat was pretty fun, but the damage recieved is a bit high. You pretty much can't be hit or you die. I may have just been underleveled/ undergeared. While I did die a lot, it felt kind of meaningless since it almost impossible to lose as long as you bring in 2 healers.
Other than the combat, the rest of the game wasn't that great. The plot was kind of boring and Gaius shouldn't have been the final boss. Elympios should've been more than 2 quick areas. Level design was the weakest part. It was pretty much non-existent. Run from place to place in big open areas the whole game. I miss actually having to explore.
There are plenty of side quests it's just that most of them are pointless. "Go kill monster X in area Y". At least they reward accessories like sunglasses.
Milla's the reason I have an /ss/ fetish now.
Jude isn't a Shota
It's sad that all the important sidequests happen at ENDGAME.
By the way, worst endgame boss in Tales ever.
In my head canon fapfics he is. Teepo also doesn't exist and Alvin dies. Really, it's just a superior version of the story all around.
Lightning did it better. In fact, I bet Namco created JudexMilla for having its own Hopurai
What did they change
>tfw no slice of life Atelier anime
>tfw no Nier OVA
I never really understood why people shat so much on Xilia's combat system. I honestly preferred it to Vesperia's broken ass gameplay that revolved around spamming and overlimit. The only real problem is that the party members haven't been nerfed enough in comparison, but it's honestly not that much different than other Tales.
The real complaints both relate to how it was rushed: shitty level design and a rushed final third. However, these don't bother me too much since I never particularly cared for Tales 'puzzles' and ToX2 will build more on Elympios anyways.
I really looking forward to ToX2, but it's going to suck knowing that Jude gets NTR'd hard by Ludger.
>tfw no slice of life Atelier anime
Esta and Logy is getting animated.
The final boss tooke me like 40 minutes to beat because Muset kept stopping time and spamming Sweet Treat and Life Bottles
>Jude gets NTR'd hard by Ludger.
Yeah, about that...
Its a different Milla. Xillia 2 deals with alternate worlds.
Pretty sure you could steal from her to stop that, or just kill her.
>why the fuck would the localization censor that?
Because Gaius is literally Hitler.
I agree that the setup for Gaius becoming the villain wasn't that great, but it did make sense to a certain extent. Gaius was an asshole that always went to the extremes without thinking his plans through; Milla called him out on his bullshit and he literally had no response (even by the end of ToX). It would only make sense that he views most of Elympios as monsters trying to hurt 'his' people.
I actually couldn't beat the final boss on hard. I couldn't do enough DPS to counter their healing because I accidentally used an All Divide instead of an Hourglass. I spent an hour going back and forth until I realized why I couldn't win. And then to make matters worse, the last time I saved was some time in Elympios, so I couldn't just turn the game off or return to the title screen. I was too prideful to get a game over on my own so I put the game on auto to do it for me.
The AI fought itself in a stalemate for 3 hours before my power went out.
Story just keeps on getting worse and worse.
Hopes Zesta makes that better
you cant steal from her. I know because I have Alvin and Leia teamed up all the time.
People only say the final boss is hard because they're over leveled. Muzet+Gaius is a huge bitch to deal with unless you're good at the game and by good, I mean be Jude.
>tfw you and Elle will never eat Milla's soup
Feels bad man.
That still sucks. I thought Jude and Milla had something special that couldn't be separated by dimension or time. It's like they just wanted to give self-insert faggots a chance to have a waifu. This shit belongs in P4, not ToX.
Just knock her down whenever she's about to heal and focus on killing her first.
>casually browsing /a/
>beat Gaius for the first time a few minutes ago
>just meet Muset
Thanks a lot.
Oh shit. I hope we get some delicious Linca.
Well you can always kill her.
You can steal from her though, that's the first thing you gotta do once you get Leia in your party. Beast that bitch and wait till the AI decides its time to steal.
>mfw you can lose that battle and the game continues.
First time fighting him he wrecked my shit at about half his life bar.
It must not stop her spam then.
Anyway I found the easiest way to do that boss is to have milla constantly spam light magic because she's weak to confusion.
Alternate Milla dies anyway and the Real Milla goes back to Spirit World which ends up sealed for good.
>I will never have a pretty girl lunge into my arms, being happy to see me, after I was thought to be dead from a great fall.
>You will never be NTR'ed by the lord of spirits
Judith/Yuri is my OTP
Estelle/Rita is another OTP
Karol/Karolete is another OTP
Raven/the World is another OTP
>coming into a thread about a game you haven't finished and complaining about spoilers
I didn't open the thread, I was just lurking the 0 page.
That'll teach me to use the catalog more.
>not shipping Raven with yourself
I did the same thing
Well, it looks like I now have no reason to pick up ToX2.
Fucking Namco, putting shitty pairings like Reid x Farah and Asbel x Cheria together, but not giving me my Jude x Milla.
Tales of Graces F in Japan got Miku outfit and Code Geass outfits
>thought muzet was an awesome crazy xmas cake
>sad she only showed up in the final 1/3rd of the game
>discover she's playable in the sequel
Alvin with Elize, though
Needs to make it about Pascal x Hubert, then I'd watch it.
>not Alvin with Rowen
>Elize hates him most of the game
>That cutscene between them at the end of the game
my icy heart felt a feel.
why is Elize so perfect?
I'm pretty sure all of the female party members in ToX had a crush on Jude.
And he managed to keep being a virgin.
What a man.
Jude is best girl. Other girls a shit.
Jude will move on to Leia when he become an adult, Milla will remain as a childhood memory and his first crush. Search your feelings, you know it is true
>Jude will move on to Elize when he become an adult
Elize's feelings for Jude seemed more like a crush and tween girls constantly change their crushes while Leia's feelings seemed more serious.
Tales of Xillia 3 will be released, because of Xillia 2 true ending
SEARCH YOUR HEARTS, YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE
Xillia 2 got terrible sales and Namco has already moved on to Tales of Zestiria
It will be on PS4
But Xillia 2 had shit sales.
Leia a shit. A complete useless shit. She doesn't get good until 2 and by then she's paired off with Alvin.
Tales of Xillia: Milla Returns
Elize is Elle's senpai; they go to the same high school.
Elle replaces Ludger.
Rowen is too old to continue battling, but stays relevant. He is replaced as primary caster by Elle's classmate who is shipped with her.
Rest of the characters return.
Jude and Gaius get to fuck their spirit waifus.
MAKE IT HAPPEN NAMCO.
It was literally a one sided childhood crush that never grew to be anything more than a fantasy. Getting down to it, Milla was the only one that truly understood Jude and he her.
What the hell am I looking at?
>buy Xillia because I wanted to play a Tales game after a long time
>mfw still no Japanese audio
It could be worse anon.
>buy ni no kuni on a whim
>set it to use japanese audio
>about an hour in can't figure out why some of the character names are being pronounced so weird... almost like they're different names... (they are)
>can't use the j-audio because the subs are for the english dub thus the translation isn't even close to right
Xillia 1 wasn't that well-received either. It had great sales for being the anniversary game but it also got a huge backlash, accusing the game for being a rushed underdeveloped game. Actually Xillia was a rushed underdeveloped game because Namco forced the developers to finish just in time for Tales's anniversary. Xillia 2 got many of the incomplete ideas that weren't used on the first game but Japan just had enough with Xillia and the game was an economical failure.
After the announce of Zestiria, probably Namco is trying to forget about Xillia.
I vastly preferred Graces' story to... well, all the other Tales games released this generation in English. And Abyss.
Except the future arc. Aside from the trolling, I found it rather dull.
You got the motto wrong. It's "courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality." If you're remembering it wrong, they should have added more needless flashbacks.
I thought the VA was pretty good aside from Elize and Milla.
Symphonia will always have the best English audio though.
Only Bamco would consider 500k for a game that reuses assets like a motherfucker a "failure". It made 500k and they wanted 650k. Boohoo.
Graces' story is absolute dog shit. I don't see how you could possibly think it has a better story than any of the other games.
>that whole second half of the game that's just not there and was simply skipped with a "syprites will fix all of our problems!"
Ni no Kuni japanese audio it's pretty shit for what I heard.
>still waiting for my copy of Innocence R to get here
I found the friendship-themed story more relatable than many of the other English-language Tales games. It's not award-winning stuff, but it kept me reasonably entertained even if it was fairly predictable and the villain's characterization was beyond awful.
It also helps that I preferred it over most of the English Tales games by default. Vesperia's story was schizophrenic, dropped its theme of "justice" halfway through, and the third act was so incredibly lazy that I found that part alone more offensive than some of the more cringe-worthy moments. Especially since they shoehorned mana, spirits, and all these other Tales tropes at the last minute when it truly didn't need them. It feels like they had more content to work with, and built a half-assed second half of the story to justify its inclusion.
Meanwhile, I found Abyss' political intrigue and constant technobabble to be unfathomably dull. The constant backtracking towards the end made it even worse. I understand why people like the game's story, and I respect those opinions, but it just wasn't my cup of tea. One person's world-building is another's melatonin supplement.
Xillia's story I just couldn't bring myself to care about.
Then again, most of the games with stories I enjoyed stayed in Japan (Rebirth, Hearts, Destiny Remake). At least we got Symphonia and Legendia, and we're getting Xillia 2. Given how nice Namco has been to us recently, maybe we'll get more.
Zestiria's story seems tropey as hell so far. Then again, I said the same thing about Graces and Hearts before they were released and I rather enjoyed those. Fingers crossed.
Hey, could anyone please teach me about bazongas?
Enjoy it. I had more fun with it than the original release. They actually managed to spice up the FR-LMBS game design.
Sadly the game is as ugly as sin. A little cel shading would have gone a long way.
Richard's scene where everyone gets a chance to talk to Lamda is so much better than Cheria's. And the way he puts his hand on Asbel's cheek is pretty fucking gay because putting your hand on someone's cheek like that is almost exclusively a romantic gesture.
I haven't heard that the Japanese audio is shit, just that the English dub is so good there's no reason to use it.
It's better than having to figure out what the fucking fairy is saying in it's deep welsh accent.
I say Vesperia had the best. Especially Rita and Yuri.
Though I've only played Symphonia, Phantasia, and Vesperia (In that order).
Abyss > Phantasia > Vesperia = Symphonia > Xillia > dirt.
The only reason why I rate Xillia > dirt is because Milla a qt man3.14.
But most vidya adaptations are shit.
And what studio would do it? I guess Ufotable would be the most logical choice but they're currently Type-Moon's bitch.
I hope that ranking is only for story.
It shouldn't be if Abyss is in first.
Naturally Sunrise has to do it. They did a pretty spot on adaptation of Abyss. There was a bit of QUALITY here and there, but it was enjoyable. Probably best to finish the game first before watching the anime since the anime spoils everything.
To be fair that's more of a fault with the script than the voice acting. Shit line is shit.
Vesperia is my second fav. Can't go wrong with Troy Baker.
It still hurts.
At least we actually got a version of Vesperia.
Unlike Destiny 2.
>not owning a 360 to play all the chinese cartoon games it has
I want to pump Milla full of my cum.
>Constant tired anime cliches thrown in your face.
>"IS THIS REALLY THE ONLY WAY?"
Yea, nah. They're pretty shit. I don't know how people can play them, much less watch them.
Worst game I've ever played. Truly a game of masochists.
Who cares about Tempest?
I want Milla to pump me full of her cum.
Damn Alter Millia. Same hotness as original plus not slutty outfit.
Too bad her personality is of a tsundere shit.
I don't hate tsunderes, in fact, my waifu is a tsundere. I hate Alter Millia type of tsundere
Tales of the Tempest R is coming
They can't unfuck Tempest unless they make it a completely different game.
Hence the R
Reimagination just like Innocence R and Hearts R
It will totaly not be clusterfuck that Tempest was
I really liked her, Millia. I liked her a lot.
But she choosing not to be Jude's waifu at the end killed my love for her. Even if she was right.
I think best Tales is Leia. She kind of went unnoticed in the game
The difference between Tempest, Hearts and Innocence is that Hearts was already top tier before hand and Innocence would be great if it had better dungeons. Tempest is pretty much a bootleg version of Rebirth with every single flaw with none of the positives.
>3 years ago
I love how they put foreshadowing here and there but when the fuck they will announce it.
I thought Innocence R was better than the original and Hearts R was.... well, I liked it, but they really didn't need to tear away a lot of the mechanics of the original (EG, CG, etc). Also the new dungeon designs were bad.
Still liked the game though. Replaying for the third time right now. Mania mode!
I was comparing the DS versions of each game actually.
>all the chinese cartoon games it has
I like these.
Wanna do some of the others?
Gaius killing the real Maxwell killed any chance for JudexMilla. Fucking asshole! And he got away with everything becoming emperor of the known world. Fuck Japan!
Muzet and Gaius were supposed to be party members in the first game
>Playing inferior incomplete beta Vesperia
>Not playing glorious PS3 Vesperia Complete Perfect Edition
>Not being able to play Flynn
>Not being able to play Patty
>Not being able to fight exclusive PS3 super bosses
Stay mad, faggot
I agree with this post.
I mostly play the Tales games for the combat system. The actual characters and story are cringe-worthy beyond belief.
>Not being able to play Flynn
You can in the 360 version... (for about 5 minutes)
stay poorfag I have both versions cept I get to play it in English the superior language
Who doesn't have both? You're just stuck with an incomplete. inferior version while non retards have a full game.
Not this shit again...
I'd say the skits are also a big part of Tales games and generally the interactions between characters are fun. If you think absolutely all of them are cringe-worthy, I don't even know how you watch most anime.
So what was direct tethering again?
Just came to post that Jude is a fag. Don't care about inactivity.
The stories are often shit but a good portion of the characters are pretty good. And with a few exceptions, most of them are not any worse than your average anime character.
Think mana transfer
i agree with you anon, gaius was doing the right thing for HIS people, it just happens that the main characters found that deus ex machina that solves both worlds problems
i guess well see how well that goes in xillia 2
Originally, there were three scenarios planned. In one, Gaius would join the party and fight against Musee with you. In the second, Musee would join your cause and help you battle Gaius. The third was what we actually got.
>wanting to see Jude get blue balled in anime form
I can't take it no more captain.
>Bamco is localizing the Vita Tales games
Why do video game companies insist everyone learn moon?
Its actually not that bad. Collette is good in any party with the hammers/para ball/angel song.
Raine is also good in any party because she's the fucking healer.
Presea and Sheena for your frontline damage, both are actually pretty decent frontliners. All you're lacking is magic damage but it doesn't really matter much as long as you wear the proper elemental weapons (when applicable) with Sheena and Presea.
Still waiting for Hearts R localization.
Although i can see them doing that what with Phantasia and all, Namco has gotten pretty generous lately. If Hearts does come out over here, Sony will probably get them to release the Vita version, too. Sony took note of a Twitter campaign for Vita localizations and Hearts came out above Final Fantasy Type 0. That's a rare achievement, especially considering public opinion about the Vita games isn't exactly great, although I've played both and I enjoyed them both more than Xillia and Vesperia. The graphics are shit but they have nice stories (ESPECIALLY Hearts, one of the best stories in the series) and better gameplay than ToV and ToX. Pretty surprising considering the games aren't even developed by Namco.
And only Hearts R is on the iOS. Ironic considering it has the more complex controls between the two games.
I still have hopes for its localization, if not, I'll wait until the Vitas are fully hacked.
I played the iOS version myself, but didn't get very far because of the controls, but I can agree that the gameplay is far better/funner than Xillia and Vesperia.
I just checked the differences, the PS3 one let's you use Repede as an on-screen avatar.
Japs are so lucky
I've only played the Vita version (actually just ragequit because Chalcedony and his stupid armor are a fucking BITCH on mania). I can't even begin to imagine how it would control on a phone.
His doggie paddle while swimming is hilarious.
>mfw I realized he's voiced by Kamiya
And Creed is voiced by Shinichiro Miki.
This makes me want to just grab it anyways and have the 360 script on my laptop or something.
I was really looking forward to the loli pirate as well, but apparently that's a PS3 only too
I want to see my daughteru Sophie and Pascal animated
I had no idea he was the Japanese voice of James from Pokemon.
Go for it. Certainly beats screaming on Facebook on it despite them saying "no" heaven knows how many times.
However, the 360 version is still a good game. Aside from some really weird typos, it's got a solid localization and a very nice dub. The only things I miss from the PS3 version when playing it are the ability to skip cutscenes and the item that lets you set 16 Artes at once.
>Certainly beats screaming on Facebook on it despite them saying "no" heaven knows how many times.
They couldn't localize it now even if they wanted to, could they? I thought they made some sort of deal with Microsoft that means the PS3 version actually can't be localized.
The 16 artes would be great - it was one of my favorite features of Xillia.
I wonder if they'll bring it into Symphonia Chronicles
If they did, hopefully it was a time-restricted contract. That would explain Namco's brick-wall "no" about the localization
Microsoft contract expired. I think it was like for a year or something? Then Vesperia PS3 came out back when Namco was in their ill-advised "me too" Western kick in 2009-2010. Came out at a bad time, along with Hearts DS. I'm convinced we would have gotten both of those games had they not been so gung-ho about trying to westernize.
Honestly, though, at this point ToV PS3 would just be bad from a business standpoint. The script for the PS3 version was 3/4 the size of the 360 version. Then they'd have to round up the voice actors again (dubbing is VERY expensive), and the localization producer for the 360 version left for Tecmo. And then again, the game is nearly four years old (five if you count the 360 version). Hardcore Tales fans would eat it up, but the overseas fanbase is relatively small and they'd have a hard time marketing it to less hardcore fans. It's unfortunate, but in the end I'm content that we got actually got a version of the game when all is said and done.
It's not in Chronicles. Neither is scene skip. It was kind of a lazy port, they didn't even fix the PS2 version's slower framerate (GC is 60FPS, PS2 is 30FPS).
I just did a quick search and according to Troy Baker there had been plans for a European PS3 release? And then about two years later Namco said they weren't doing it. It looks like the initial localization was a lot of work and there either issues with localizing the PS3 version or they just decided it wasn't worth it.
Troy Baker said at a con like three years ago now that there was supposed to be a European release and he wasn't sure why the game didn't have a US release date. So it was probably due to issues besides dubbing because even the voice actors expected it to be localized.
The other voice actors have said they were never called in. E-mail any of them except Troy and they'll tell you as much. Troy even says here he's not sure what he worked on...
He didn't even remember if he had done Dawn of the New World or not and had to call up the studio and ask. Considering the amount of work the guy gets, I'm not surprised. He could have just made a simple mistake.
Going off of that, John Ricciardi, the co-founder of the company that translates the Tales games for Namco, said on NeoGAF they never did any work for Vesperia PS3. Can't find the post in question, but I know he said it.
[just as an aside, don't trust Gematsu. They google translate everything and once wrote an article about how Namco was "oppressing" the Western Tales fanbase despite announcing new games for overseas release, and then used notoriously inaccurate VGchartz numbers to back up their points].
Basically ever tales thread ever to a fucking T.
also milla best girl, even dub va's lisp grew on me.
Alt Milla > Milla
The kingdom hearts version makes me laugh the most.
What the fuck is this I hear about real Milla getting sealed off in the spirit world forever? Milla Returns sequel NEVER?
Fuck you Namco, Alt Milla better be worth it.
AH fuck you have it? I only have tales and ace combat as those are the two vidya franchises I follow the most.
Yuri don't need no bitch to hold him down.
I don't know if I liked the overall plot of Xillia, but it had some great moments. Jude punching out Maxwell was fucking awesome, even if it was incredibly cliche.
He doesn't need a bitch
He needs Flynn.
Seriously, that delivery on that "I'm so proud to call you my friend... Yuri Lowell" line at the end was shippy as hell.
>You will never see Milla's throbbing cock in its full glory
Where the fuck is Darkwing Duck?
The 3rd to last panel could have been better. Could probably make one for big anime franchises like Gundam or EVA too.
>Dwarven Vow Number 7
>Justice and Love will always win
thanks, now it will plague my mind for the next week
Symphonia will always have that special place in my heart, though
it's her crowning glory
But you missed the best saying.
>Even though everyone claims that Luke is a terrible protagonist, everyone for some reason also seems to deny the credibility of the remaining cast.
Am I the only one who couldn't stand most of the party? I liked Guy and Jade was okay sometimes but other than that everyone kinda sucked. At least Luke had excuses for his behaviour but I actually lost interest and stopped playing shortly after Akzeriuth because they all annoyed me so much.
I guess that makes more sense. It did seem kinda weird that they'd gone so far as to record the extra scenes and then scrapped the localization.
So who will you direct tether with?
Gaius, it has to be Gaius.
what are you talking about? Heather hogan manages to make one of the more Adorable cute voices
Teepo while Elize is watching over us.
Would you rather listen to the second English Lloyd voice?
Muzet isn't worth it with those daddy issues of hers
Milla is so pure
Fairly certain that was Cassandra Morris bro. Sounds way too much like Totori to not be
nono it is heather hogan
It's Heather Hogan. Symphonia 1's actors were actually credited.
Cassandra Morris was Sophie.
I was actually talking about Clorica from Rune Factory 4, but either way I do think it could be either one of the two actresses.
Regardless of who it was Clorica's voice did something to my heart like you wouldn't believe.
Graces is the best Tales game. The story is passable, and even good in parts, but anyone who pretends Tales games aren't about gameplay first is lying to themselves. And Graces is simply the best in that regard.
Sharing is caring.
Tales games are made with fujoshi in mind.
be careful about where you say that. some people will castrate you for saying nice things about Graces' gameplay
they probably buy more copies then the west combined
Welp, if only localized version had Japanese voice option...
Time to rack up my Japanese skills...
It was generic, but it wasn't bad. Sophie is the best Tales girl and carries the story by herself imo.
What the fuck? The CC system was miles better than any sort of mana system, as it rewards skill instead of item usage and there really isn't a way to plow through for those who don't want to take the time to understand the system. It was my first Tales game, and I was extremely pissed when I started Xillia and Abyss and realized A- and B- Artes were a one time thing.
I do wish some of the Graces bosses were more challenging, though. Xillia had better boss fights.
I've never played Symphonia, would buying Chronicles be a good choice?
I could also emulate it on Dolphin.
>there will never be an Ace Combat Anime
It hurts, because the plots are already perfect for anime.
>tfw no Kiseki anime
Not tha anon but Graces's story was so bad that it was hard to get angry with the writers. except for Cheria bullshit. I found Xillia more cringeworthy, maybe because it tried to be "epic" or something
Tales dubs are actually pretty good, although IMO they've been slipping in quality since after Vesperia. Dawn was a recasted, poorly directed disappointment borne of a lower VA budget. Graces, while good, had too many actors who had been in previous Tales games for my tastes. Xillia had some weird delivery issues, the sound quality was lower than what we're used to, cast someone who had voiced many previous Tales characters in a lead role, and whoever voiced Elize was awful IMO.
You'd be surprised at the number of people who call it a "button masher" and will enforce that opinion through extreme measures and, occasionally, insults.
Favorite town: Xian Du
Favorite antagonist: Jiao ;_;
Favorite spell(s): Negative Gate, Tidal Wave, Soulstroke Spin
Also, did the Devs remove the shop upgrade in the sequel?
My biggest complain with the battle system in Graces is how many artes are tied to the A-artes "flowchart", and there was no way you could do them without following it.
I felt like some "classic" artes that were in that flowchart lost their shine since you can't do them on the fly (looking at you Beast).
Shop upgrade is gone in Xillia 2.
If Graces is a 'button masher' then all other Tales games are just as, or more, deserving of that title.
That's good to hear. Weaponry was the only thing I've ever used.
I got kind of use to Milla's voice and then for some inexplicable reason I started getting boners from it.
>You'd be surprised at the number of people who call it a "button masher"
This. Its like all they ever played werr Team Symphonia titles.
Does Xillia 2 have full element list, or are ice and thunder still not included. I kinda wish Indignation was a spell again.
Buying Chronicles would be better than emulating on Dolphin. I don't know what kind of issues Symphonia might have on Dolphin.
The CC system was great in Destiny DC, but in Graces they decided to completely fucking ruin it.
The A-Artes system is complete shit and only gives you the illusion that it brings more to the combat. It also leads to a shitty elemental weakness system with some characters having a harder time reaching certain artes they need to use.
It removed aerial play, one of the best parts of Tales games, which is completely inexcusable.
The combat revolves around turtling and the dodging system doesn't even work properly.
A-Artes and B-Artes were certainly an interesting and unique idea but Hubert was the only one I feel to fully utilize the system. And Cheria is broken as shit.
>there really isn't a way to plow through for those who don't want to take the time to understand the system.
It's not really that difficult on normal to play without understanding it. I just faked it for a decent portion of the game and then half figured it out because it was pretty obvious just by playing and IIRC the game kept re-explaining stuff to me. The combat was more fun once I actually paid attention to how the battle system worked but it wasn't absolutely necessary to play through the game.
Chronicles is the ps2 version which has extra stuff, you can of course emulate that but its not translated.
I'd say so. Chronicles looks nicer, has additional outfits, and it comes with both Symphonia and its sequel Dawn Of The New World
Here's a side-by-side comparison
Also, Symphonia has been known to have problems with Dolphin, like for me, the audio is messed up, but then again I'm on a laptop so I can't judge.
I literally just spammed Asbel's B-artes and the game was easy as fuck, even on chaos.
Outfits sure, but they ruined that glorious celshading
A heartwarming moment for sure.
Graces combat is overhyped.
>Restrictive A-arte tree
>Shitty options for CC-kickback
In addition to
>No good puzzles in dungeons until the future arc
Besides people who say that only gameplay matters are retarded. Sure its more important to have good gameplay than a good story. Bujt why would you not want BOTH?
Half in the game, I was so done with Alvin's bullshit. At least he should took the job of hiding his crap instead of everyone forgiving him like 10 times just because he's charming. I fucking hate UNDERSTANDING
I'll take lisp Milla anyday as long as I don't have to listen to fucking Japanese Jude.
>Tales of Destiny will never get a 3D remake
>tfw no Destiny anime
Actually, nevermind. The amount of Leon faggotry would be off the charts for the first half and then it would mean watching best Destiny lose to Rutee again during the last half.
How so? You literally mash A artes for everyone except assbel and then end with a b arte and all a artes combo so it doesn't really matter how you mash.
With assbel you just mash b artes.
ToD works great in 2D; why would you want it in 3D?
I feel so bad for Philia. I wish she could have found a husbando.
Whose story are you doing?
Alvin has his reasons (I'm biased towards defending him because I played him 100% of the chances I could)
We never did get those Star Driver costumes in the west.
I knew it was unrealistic to expect it, even in the slightest, but I am still saddened by this.
This galaxy is not shining.
Oh good, I wasn't the only one.
>muh sad past, I'm not really a bad person
I guess if the story could excuse of any blame to Gaius, Muzet and Isla; I shouldn't be surprised about Alvin.
He should have just learn how to swim...
I remember Symphonia having sound issues on dolphin. I ended up burning a copy and playing it on my wii directly instead.
My problem with Graces is that it's the logical progression of the combat system introduced around Abyss. It's nearly all just mindless spamming.
At least Xilia tries something new that forces you to develop a rhythm in battle instead of spamming the same 4 artes and popping overlimit every once in awhile.
How many times has Leon died? Almost 10 right?
>I killed a helpless old lady but I want to be happy, LOVE ME!!!
Leia gets all of my mana
I personally think that Vesperia combat is the most fun. Sure it gets broken really easily but by the end your combos are less about killing the enemy and more about how long and ludicrous your combos can be.
I miss Judith...
>not mashing a artes with richard
>not playing on manual
>not getting those fast casts
Its like you're not even playing Graces
>Spam culling flare
Great Game Gracetards :^)
>mashing a artes
Why are you contradicting yourself?
Both Richard and Hubert are mixed characters, and using A-artes and B-artes in combination with them is far more effective than just spamming.
Although I will admit I just ended up standing back and spamming Vengeant Fangs as Richard near the end because I was just sick of the game and it has absurdly high damage.
You realize that if you chain more a-artes before a b-arte the b will cast faster, right?
The Anon is correct. Learn how to play.
That might be the case in the future arc, but you don't even get Culling Flare until the second to final dungeon in the original game.
He has way better chemistry with Judith, though his interactions with Estelle were cute.
But honestly im find with there being no romance though.
>no pancake time
Im disappointed anons...
When's the last time they used Indignation? Abyss?
As far as ToG's combat goes I vastly prefer it over the rest of the 3D games in the series (Vesperia felt like a quantum leap back from Destiny PS2), but I wasn't a fan of the A-Arte tree. Tiered chaining in all forms needs to go away. There are ways to evolve playstyles without restricting your combos that much. Destiny PS2 evolved in a meaningful way. Hearts' combat expanded in a meaningful way (so long as you didn't spam Shouseijin like a numbnuts).
As far as the "spamming" accusation goes... the game specifically limits spamming. There's a notable delay when using an Arte more than twice in a row, and the A-Arte tree seems to exist specifically to avoid spamming (not exactly the ideal way to solve it, but it's still a "solution" in the fact that you can't use the same move over and over again with it).
>the dodging system doesn't work properly
The dodging system is actually one of the reasons why I really enjoyed Graces more than games with free run and nothing else. It worked fine for me. It really emphasized learning boss patterns.
>No good puzzles in dungeons until the future arc
Wow, this is... the first time I've ever seen someone say something nice about the F-Arc dungeons. Refreshing opinion, albeit one I disagree with. The dungeons are half the reason I never replay the F arc.
It doesn't need one. Destiny PS2 is orgasmic... although come to think of it, that Pachislot games does look pretty damn nice, graphically.
Huh? Vesperia seemed like more of a progression from Abyss. Same chaining system (albeit slightly expanded). Overlimit was expanded. In fact, that's part of why I didn't much care for it since I had grown pretty tired of the Team Symphonia combat engine at that point.
As far as ToX goes, it's probably the only game in the series where I felt rewarded for spamming (both normal Artes and Link Artes... Wyrm Wrath makes mincemeat of mobs in seconds).
Uh... yeah. Using A-artes to get quick casting is not the same thing as spamming A-artes mindlessly.
That still comes down to: spam A-Artes use one B-Arte. So your still mostly spamming A-Artes.
I gotta go so I'm just gonna post the Tumblr page that does translations
>inb4 tumblr a shit
yeah well it's better than having to learn moon
Yeah, it kinda is.
Vesperia PS3, Rita's second MA
Elitist insults like this are exactly why I have difficulty sympathizing with people who dislike aspects of that particular combat system.
>People seriously complaining Dawn of the New World was just upscaled instead of completely remade
I know it's my own fault for reading youtube comments, but seriously the game just came out in 2008 and it was a piece of shit anyway. Not only does it not need a remake because it looks fine, it would be a total waste unless it was also a completely new game.
Innocence R (Spada). Not counting remakes of games that already had that arte, Graces F.
This stupid bitch. Holy shit, I wish I could've beaten her with my own hands.
I'm glad that bitch goes into a coma, the only part about it that sucks is that Yurgen has to suffer due to having to see his lover suffer.
I wish she would have actually died.
Yeah, it seems to me like the people who hated ToX's combat the most are the people who like to do infinite combos. Personally, it just wasn't for me.
>it's probably the only game in the series where I felt rewarded for spamming
You can't spam in ToX because of boss guards and interrupts. Compare to Vesperia where you can do ludicrous shit with Yuri.
This is the sort of shit I expect from /v/
B-but she wants to be happy. And she's in love, don't you feel sorry for her?
>Only in Japan
Rewarded for spamming in a game where every boss interrupts when you spam?
So Sony has a presscon on the 30th regarding JRPGs on the Vita. You guys think hearts R will be localized? I think its just gonna be Type 0 though
graces f had a pretty cool chat and animation for it.
>I want to be happy
>But I fucked over a bunch of orphans in the past and never apologized
>But I get asshurt when someone holds it over my head
>So I'll just kill another innocent person so I can get my happy ending :^)
What a bitch.
All she had to do was take care of a bedridden woman that lived in the same damn city as her. Holy fuck.
Considering Namco is run by idiots, it's unlikely to see Hearts R localized.
The irony is that that hat woman probably would've died in a few more months anyways.
I don't know, Baba seems to be getting better. The fact he localized ToX2 and Zestiria is a sign
I've never played a Tales game before. Where do I start? All I have is a dreamcast, a halfway decent pc, and a hacked psp though.
For 2D try Eternia, for 3D any of the entry level Tales titles (Abyss, Symphonia, Xillia, Vesperia)
Oops, misread, scratch off xillia and Vesperia since you dont have a 360 or ps3. Abyss and Symph can be emulated
Late reply, but: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=12990
Uh... emulate ToE for the PS, ToS for GC, and ToA for PS2.
Nothing else is really worth finding translation patches for.
was disappointed that they really didn't add indignation, it's like one of Tales strongest lighting move of all times
Sony of America or Japan? or both?
Either way, my hopes are high on that.
Was mainly referring to normal battles. I had my own share of problems with the boss battles. I'm all for balancing (soloing Vesperia with Yuri is the easiest thing I've ever done) but breaking out as often as they did seemed like a really lazy way about fixing that. The guard countering in Innocence R and Hearts R were better solutions to turning enemies into punching bags. Even normal enemies had it. On top of that, damage and stun time would drastically reduce when spamming.
It seemed to interrupt whenever you DIDN'T spam.
Seems to be pretty common from certain parts of the fandom, sadly. Some people even get banned from certain parts of the 'net for talking nice about Graces. I can understand not liking the combat system. Hell, I can understand hating it. But the venom is just a tad overdone in some places.
Link to the article confirming this?
>Xillia released last year
>Zestiria localization announced day of its reveal
>Symphonia Chronicles localization announced day of its reveal
>Xillia 2 announced before part one was even out
>Phantasia iOS in English out of nowhere
Stranger things have happened.
If you are VERY good with Japanese, try Rebirth (PSP). It's fantastic, but its combat is pretty unorthodox (although brilliant). You might want to try emulating Symphonia (GC).
>It removed aerial play, one of the best parts of Tales games, which is completely inexcusable.
You do not know how glad I was seeing characters with a strong air game in ToX. Aerial combat is one of the best parts of the Tales games.
I played the psp one a bit. Tales of the world or something. But it was just generic "kill X Y's in level Z". All the games aren't like that are they?
I'll look for the ones you mentioned though.
But that was by ufotable, so that's to be expected.
>we will never get another Indignation Judgement ever again.
>not using Ice Spires
Bit hot under the collar?
Hearts R has a system built around aerial combat (they recover a bit too quickly for my taste, though).
TotW is horrible piece of shit, sorry you had to play that. Go try Eternia
>Was mainly referring to normal battles.
I don't really consider normal battles a good measure of pros/cons since they're mindless in all Tales games.
> The guard countering in Innocence R and Hearts R
Never played them, but if they're anything like Graces, then the focus on turtling/spamming is really shitty.
>It seemed to interrupt whenever you DIDN'T spam.
It was based off of % or hit count depending on the boss. That's why said ToX encouraged developing your own combos and finding a suitable rhythm for bosses.
>It seemed to interrupt whenever you DIDN'T spam.
Confirmed for never playing Xillia
A sign of them caving in to foreign money.
Tales of the World is really different from the other games, none of the other games have a quest system like that. It's basically just fanservice so you can see more of the characters you like in a different setting.
More like Baba turning into a westaboo like his bretherrns, Suda, Kamiya and Kojima
Huh. It seems like I picked the worst game to start with then. In about 5 minutes I'll be starting eternia though. Thanks for the info everyone who responded.
Just found the PS2 memcard that has my Tales of Legendia save on it.
I think I left off a little after beating the first part, but the game never really tells you where you should go next.
The logs don't help, either
Just a word of advice that eternia doesn't really pick up until 50% of the way through the game where the character development starts happening.
Also, the dub sucks, so brace yourself.
Fuck you. The dub is charming.
I'm grabbing the psp undub version
Ah I see.
It better not disappoint. Hearts R and Innocence R are the only JRPGs I'm interested in and willing to buy for the Vita.
First part? So you're at the beginning of the game?
The only thing good about Graces was Emeraude
>Never played them, but if they're anything like Graces, then the focus on turtling/spamming is really shitty.
Nonono. You CANNOT spam in those games. Your damage output will drop like crazy, and if you do it enough, they'll just break out of the combo entirely.
Guard countering is when, during a combo of your own, an enemy will turn red and counterattack after taking a certain amount of damage. That's your cue to guard RIGHT before the attack hits. If you have absolutely perfect timing, you'll counterattack and continue your combo. The length of the enemy attack animations can vary significantly even for the same enemy, so you REALLY have to be watching to pull it off.
You later get skills that restore HP and TP when you pull it off properly.
Just played it a few minutes ago. I used a grand total of two Artes and they broke out of the combo.
DEMON LIGHTNING HAMMER!
I can't believe the guy who voiced Reid in that is the person who is Sly Cooper.
I would beat her with my fists, tie her down, then hatefuck the hell out of Agria.
I'm not the only one, right?
The way the handled Emeraude just makes me sad...
Such wasted potential.
no, it was shortly after Shirley becomes a playable character, so it's the second part. The part where they find out that all the monsters have crazy healing abilities now
I wish I was Bobo so I could see her dere side.
The guy who voiced Reid sounded like he didn't want to be at the recording studio.
Oh I see what you mean.
I actually never did that.
She should've been the final boss. Would've been so much more satisfying, especially since you only hear about what a bitch she was after she's already dead.
She has always been dead.
shit...I don't want to go looking at a walkthrough just for this
Does Sly Cooper sound like he doesn't want to be at the recording studio? I don't think so.
Still the cast for Eternia was just randomly picked off the streets and I find the amateurity rather charming.
I fail to see what Sly has to do with Reid since both were recorded at different points.
>Still the cast for Eternia was just randomly picked off the streets
You just reminded me of Chaos Wars.
>I am going to help you guys fix your loli, explain the origins of Lambda, and while my views on how he should be handled are different I will join you for the time being
>OH WAIT NOW IM EVIL AND HAVE A GOD COMPLEX
>OH NO I EXPLODED
And then they try to justify everything by making her a gigantic cunt for no reason in the F arc.
They weren't randomly picked off the streets. They were family members of people that translated the game.
She was a cunt long before the events of the game (and the F arc's existence). In many ways, she was directly responsible for Lambda's transformation.
>Emeraude will never sit on your face
Kill me now
So wait, what's the better Tales of Destiny game? 1 or 2? Are any of them available in English?
2 is definitely the best but its not available in English
Tales of Destiny R is best. 2 was a bit dissapointing
Tales of Destiny 2 is best. R was a bit disappointing
Why is Jude such a faggot? He just doesn't sit well with me. He absolutely nothing and he earned the respected of the two most powerful people in the world. Of course he did some cool stuff sometimes but most of the time he was just a tag along. I couldn't see his drive. Alvin was right.
2 is better than PS1 1, but R is the best.
I never played Destiny 2.
But I did love Destiny 1 (PS2 version)
She was shady as fuck right from the beginning. She insisted on calling Sophie 'Protos Heis' and referred to her as 'it', and saw nothing wrong with her existing solely to destroy Lambda. And she wasn't interested in solving the issue with Lamda any way but destroying him. Normally this might seem somewhat reasonable, except this is a Tales game so she was obviously wrong and probably a villain. And didn't they establish she was a cunt who lied to you before you fought Lamda in the original game?
>Did absolutely nothing
Maybe you should play Jude's story instead of finishing the game with Milla's and passing judgement you faggot.
Lambda. Normally I wouldn't correct it but I made the same mistake twice.
The real reason to play Jude's story is to have more time with Best Xillia.
Nah, she was trying to get rid of Lambda because Lambda was causing nova monsters to appear and fuck everything up on Fodra. Meanwhile doctor whats-his-fuck wants to teach lambda to be human, while the nova apocalypse is happening. Emeraude did nothing wrong, until out of left field her robot clone developed a god complex.
I'd played Jude first and he did fucking shit.
>mfw I posted that video in this same thread
Leia is such a good girl. Too bad she gets NTR'd by the Lord of Spirits.
She was (in my opinion understandably) a bitch but she wasn't a devious super evil villian until the F arc flashbacks and her sudden 180 in the cuccoon.
They could have used her belief that Lambda had no place in the world and should be destroyed far better as reasoning for her to be an antagonist.
But she doesn't win either in Xillia 2 from what I heard. In fact, no one does.
He obviously meant Celsius.
>Supported Milla since the beginning, no strings attached, when everyone had ulterior motives or didn't fully believe in her
>Almost single handedly responsible for healing her crippled legs and letting her continue her mission, the most important thing to her
>Stands up to Gaius' extreme ideology with his own compassion
>Fiercely protective of both humans and spirits in a world where it was either one or the other
>Inspired Milla to eventually want to live up to his ideal of her
>Inspired Milla to fight for both humans and spirits
>Shows his resolve by not backing down and beats the shit out of Gaius to stop his doomsday plan
You're full of shit.
I wonder if Robo-Emeraude's tits felt real
Would the advance people that built her real skimp out on that?
I'm still completely ass pained over Jude not getting with Milla in the end. Fuck.
I think it was beautiful in how bittersweet it was. I like to think that somewhere deep down, since the very beginning, Jude knew that Milla had a greater calling than a normal human life. The greatest thing he could do for her was work towards her dream of a coexistence on Reize Maxia and Elympios while she watched over both worlds.
But this is a Tales game, so trying to sacrifice someone for the greater good is basically never portrayed as being okay. Conveniently, it's also never necessary. Her actions just caused more problems, Fodra was fucked anyway, and the party managed to resolve a situation that was even worse (thanks to her) without sacrificing anyone. And she still didn't care about Sophie and she lied to you. Even without the god complex, there was no way she wouldn't have been an antagonist.
So you're saying she's only a villain because it's a Tales game and it had to work out like that.
So how much is that Doctor guy at fault for not giving Emeraude the D so he could play with his autistic space-virus instead
>Punches out God for his waifu
Yeah jack shit.
Wow, you're practically the first person I've seen defend Jude. Most seem to dismiss him in Xillia 1 because of his strong infatuation with Milla.
Yes. But foremost he is at fault for making a conduit for nova monsters.
>B-b-but he could become almost human!
And then a planets worth of people died. A pretty big planet to. At least 10 times the size of Ephinea.
Was it ever explained why Milla had to take over for Maxwell? Why couldn't Maxwell just continue to run things? It was the ultimate blueball and I didn't even understand it.
Because a new power with new ideals must run a new world.
Maxwell got punk'd by Gaius, Muzet and the Lance of Kresnik.
Since Reize Maxia apparently runs off of Castlevania logic, there must always be a boss man, lest the world collapses.
He was tired. It's time for him to rest and to get rid of the schism.
Well yeah, but I thought the main party had convinced Maxwell that he was full of shit already? There wasn't any need to pass his powers on to Milla.
And because she never really tried to find another option, she was totally okay with killing an innocent kid because she didn't consider him a person and even without the god complex she probably would've insisted on trying to kill him again even though it hadn't worked the first time, his current behaviour was her fault and it would kill another innocent person in the process, who she also refused to consider a person. Which was ridiculous because the worst-case scenario to trying things the party's way would've just been that they had to do things her way anyway. Even in something that didn't condemn her for trying to sacrifice him the first time (and most stuff would've because she didn't even feel the least bit bad about it), if she'd insisted on killing Lambda without trying anything else, she'd've seemed like a stupid, stubborn bitch.
Oh right, that's what I missed. Kind of silly that he had to die for the schism to get removed, but whatever.
He didn't have to. He's the creator. He could just dispel it.
I'm pretty sure it was stated in game that the person who created the schism had to die for it to be dispelled. If not, there's literally no reason for him to off himself.
Yeah in game they said he had to die or who ever made it could get rid of it. That's why Exodus was after his life since everyone knew he wouldn't get rid of it.
Now him killing himself just sounds even more stupid. I hated how ToX's last act was so rushed.
>Tales of Abyss
This is absolutely fucking right. I've played all the localized Tales games and Abyss was definitely my favorite. How could anyone not like Abyss?
Because Luke is a faggot
Luke wasn't a faggot. He was mentally 7 years old. He matured a lot through out the series.
You are the faggot. Luke is the man.
I didn't like it despite being the first Free-run Tales game I've played.
Abyss was ok, but Vesperia literally did everything better in the same formula. Out of the first big three, I'd say
Vesperia > Abyss > ToS
He was fucking Guy's ass everyday with master Van. Luke is a faggot.
Shut the fuck up Asch. I know you still butthurt. Bring your Nashitlia with you to the grave please.
So the real question is what is the best Tales game? All I see in this thread is everyone calling every Tales game shit.
The one you enjoy the most.
Hearts R and Symphonia are my favorites.
I like Symphonia and Hearts.
Vesperia is the funnest.
Symphonia has the best story.
Hearts R for having the most mechanically sound battle system.