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>tfw no Tales of Xillia anime
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tfw no Tales of Graces anime
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>>100963312
>tales of graces
>anime
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Tales games does not make for good anime. I guess the one for Abyss was an alright adaption for what it was, but I have never seen it discussed on /a/.
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>>100963312
If they did a graces anime they would probably have to leave out the F arc, which is the best part
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>>100963198
Thank fuck.
I like Tales games but the anime adaptions are always shit.
You have no idea how much I raged while trying to marathon the Tales of Eternia anime.
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The Vesperia movie was kinda good.
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Best girl
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>>100963312
Thank god, shit story & characters aside from Pascal.
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>>100963748
The F arc is a shitty AsbelxCheria fic
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I want to lick Milla's feet.
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>>100963918
Nah, the characters were pretty good.
Shitbel was shit but everyone else was pretty decent... especially with Malik trolling the shit out of everyone and all the hilarity.

That could be done justice in an anime. That's pretty much the only thing though.
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>>100963638
I wish Abyss anime had the look of Symphonia anime. Symphonia was beautiful but the plot was butchered. Abyss was at least almost completely accurate.
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Wait wait, I am playing Tales of Graces F right now for the ps3 (english version) Does that mean I missed something?
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I want a Summon Night anime with DinahXAera as canon.
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>>100963198

Thinking of Agria in animated form makes me tingle.
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>>100964143
She was such a generic "lol insane" character. I swear each Tales game I've played has one.
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>>100963198
Why do you even want a Xillia anime, OP? Is the game not enough?
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>>100964026
No.
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>>100963924
>shitty AsbelxCheria fic
Cannot disagree. That was the most shitty, badly written romance I ever saw in a tales series. Still, the rest of it was fine and I liked Richard in the party.
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>>100964143
>playing to the EU version
>no delicious crazy Mayaa Sakamoto
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>>100964222
The only other Tales character I can think of with a similar personality is Zagi. I actually called her chick Zagi for the longest time.
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>>100964336
Get a hacked PS3 and play the undub then.
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>>100964332
Even if it had the awful Asbel and Cheria stuff, I found the stuff between Hubert and Pascal hilarious. Malik and Richard's commentary was the best.
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>>100964332
Tales romances are some serious fanfic tier shit. Namco will never gives a proper pairing either. This means that fujoshi whores keep making their disgusting homo fanfics and fanart about Tales guys.
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>>100964332
AsbelxCheria is genderbent "nice guy" faggotry. Cheria as the "nice girl" who is entitled to get the "trophy guy" just for being a "nice girl"
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>>100964537
Richard was so surpring, he turned out to be such a great comic character. Mask of Barona would be hilarious animated.

>awful Asbel and Cheria stuff
It's funny because it felt Richard was more of a aprent to Sophie than the two.
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>>100964641
This is why I ship crack pairings.
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>>100964641
Japan seems to like Tales's official pairings. ITOH, Japan has shit tastes
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>>100964877
So who's official pairing for each game.
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>>100964721
Richard and Sophie were downright hilarious together. I loved the stuff were they made their own secret clubhouse. The Mask of Barona was probably some of my favorite skits.

You know, a lot of people complain about the Graces cast but aside from Asbel and Cheria the others were fun. I suppose that's why they were perfect together, completely boring gets with equally boring.
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>>100964641
It doesn't help that in Graces Cheria is such an annoying one dimensional thing you can't really ship her and Asbel. Their romance was done so terrible chemistry between Asbel and Richard was actually more believable.

They should have focused on Pascal's side of the romance instead of those two
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>>100964791
>crack

Play Xillia 2
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Why do you people respond to this kind of shitposting? Report and ignore.
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>>100964938
I ship AsbelxSophie. I'm not even into shipping but it was so obvious they should be the main couple, until the "daughter" bullshit
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>>100965025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b96joIuzE2U
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Cless & Mint
Stahn & Rutee
Reid & Farah
Kyle & Reala
Lloyd & Colette
Veigue & Claire
Senel & Stella FUCK Shirley
Asch & Natalia
Yuri & Judith
Shing & Kohaku
Asbel & Cheria
Jude & Milla
Ludger & Milla
Slay & Alicia
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>>100964026

Xillia came after Graces.


>>100965025

Release date fucking where?
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>>100965025
D-don't toy with my heart anon.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7z-GhDe7XM
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Mel Blanc is dead so they wouldn't even be able to dub it properly.
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>>100965280
I liked Alvin better with the loli
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>>100964920
Only played translated ones, except for Legendia, but this is what I've seen on Tales cons:
ClessxMint
StahnxRutee
ReidxFarah
LloydxColette
LukexTear
LucaxIria
YurixEstelle
AsbelxCheria
JudexMilla

Of course some of them are canon.
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>>100965067
This. When they were kids it seemed clear to me Asbel and Sophie would be the main couple, I was annoyed when they changed it to adoption.

>chemistry between Asbel and Richard was actually more believable.
That last friendhsip pact during the credits certainly looked more romantic than Asbel asking Cheria to marry him
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>>100965193
>Yuri & Judith
That's why Yuri and eStelle are in everything Vesperia related right?
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>>100965193
>Yuri & Judith
I politely disagree.
I enjoy YurixJudith and EstellexRita, YurixEstelle is just my personal favorite.
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>>100965392
Forgot to quote >>100964949
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>>100965193
>>100965366
>>100965416
>>100965433
>Yuri paired with anyone
He's casual fuck buddies with Judith and Estelle's like his sister.
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>>100965366
>Legendia
Legendia was SenelxShitley
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bM8Sm16Sqk

Pascal is the best Graces F
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>>100965280
Leia is still after Jude's cock and her VA said the interaction between Jude and Leia resembles to a married couple
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>>100965515
Graces should have just been Pascal and Malik going around fixing shit.
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>>100965504
At least in my post I just pointed out the "official couples", not my personal taste, Yuri and Estelle are shown together (with Flynn, sometimes) in pretty much everything Vesperia related (cameos in games, Tales cons, etc).
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>>100965366
There's also EmilxMarta.
I'd understand repressing Symphonia 2, though.
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>>100965504
>>100965610
Personally I thought it was basically implied that although feelings were there nothing could come of it since he's a vigilante and she's a princess, even if she isn't next in line.
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>>100965558
I assumed as much.
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>>100965643
You know, I got boed of it halfway through, but Chronicles will have dual audio, so maybe I'll get to actually finish it.
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>>100965610
In the cameos Rita is often there and Namco loves making joke about her relationships with Estelle, actually in term of pure pairing EstellexRita is pushed more than YurixEstelle in the Radiant Mythology games and shit.
Though these games are made of crack either way.

Vesperia is more about the team as a big family as romance either way, the only pairing close to canon is KarolXNan
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>>100965723
>In Radiant Mythology games
Actually it was EstellexFlynn in RM3.
Rita placed on the lab and her skits mostly serious.
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>>100965242
pls bamco gibe us the meguca outfits in xilla 2

we wont get them
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>>100965809
Have we EVER gotten anime cameo outfits?
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>>100965723
Well, it's true that Namco loves to joke around with RitaxEstelle, but the point is that taking it seriously, YurixEstelle is more official than anything with Judith.

I agree that the game is more about the guild being a family though, serious romance would've ruined it.
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>>100965843

Xillia had Idolmaster outfits.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x7UJfgXLPA

Pascal is a beast soloing the final boss of Graces F on Chaos (not the post game F arc final boss)
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>>100965791
Flynn only gives the vibe of a loyal servant, not a love interest.

If anything, I'd say he's pretty gay about Yuri.
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Was Tear a pedophile since Luke was technically 7?
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>>100965940
No, she was just a shitty chracter.
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>I'd say he's pretty gay about Yuri.
That fucking battle between them. That fucking feel when you being left out.
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What do you think the Tales game on PS4 will look like?
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>>100965990
0/10
See me after class.
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>>100963806
Symphonia adaptation wasnt absolutely cringe worthy.
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>>100966088
He's right though. She's a hypocrite.
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>>100966127
You have not watched Phantasia's, now, that was shit.
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>>100966067
Like Xillia/Zestiria I guess
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>>100966151
I've only ever seen two episodes of it and it was years ago.
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>>100966034
Is the only patch around still only for the menus?

I can only get some phrases here and there (if it's voiced), but not way of understanding all the dialogue.
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>>100966129
And ur a faget.
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>>100966127
It was inaccurate but I appreciated that the characters still looked like Kōsuke Fujishima characters.
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>>100966223
>Is the only patch around still only for the menus?
Yes, unfortunately.
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>>100966129
it doesn't matter

anyone with long hair and garter belt can't be anything but great
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Fuck lesbians, this is the best pairing in Vesperia.
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>>100966129
Being a hypocrite has nothing to do with whether a character is bad or not.
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>>100966506
That's not Yuri & Judith
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Tear is voiced by Yukana the slut that slept around to win voice roles, instantly can't be a good character
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>>100966562
That's a shitty pairing that doesn't make much sense story-wise, since after Rita, Judith is the least close to Yuri.
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>>100966609
>playing in Japanese
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>>100966665
>Not playing undubs
>Listening to cringe worthy dub
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>>100966665
>Not playing undub.
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>Miyuki Sawashiro deliciously voiced Milla
>Tomokazu Sugita as Alvin
>Not in English release, horrible lisp shit voice actress

FUCK YOU SCAMCO
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>>100966757
While those 2 are great, gotta say Alvin's voice in english was pretty fucking good too.
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>>100966681
>>100966703
>not buying and playing the game on release
Seriously though, it was the only reasonable option at the time. Only Anise sucked, everyone else was pretty good. Especially Jade.
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>>100966681
I can't play Tales Games without hammy voice acting.
Although original jap is good though.
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>Tales of Symphonia PS3 gets dual audio

FUCK YOU SCAMCO
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>>100967014
What an awful, awful party composition.
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>You will never have Sophie for a daughteru

How does that make you feel /a/?
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>>100967178
Who cares about party composition when you have waifus?
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>>100967231

forgot pic
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>>100967178
>caring about party comp in an action RPG
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_F-LmrEfQQ#t=1249

Symphonia HD ending

Japanese dub is so much better
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>>100967383
Collector's edition is sold out on Amazon, god dammit.
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>>100967231
ok because I can still have her as a wife.
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best tales villain?
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zelos was a bro. fuck all of you.
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>>100967482
Agreed. It was hard to disagree with his decision. That world truly was a piece of shit.
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>>100967560
Zelos lives, canon in Symphonia 2

In before mad Kratosfags
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>>100967482
No.
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>>100967560
It felt so good to kill that asshole.
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>>100967482
>not gaius
such pleb taste
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Best villain is Dhaos
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>>100967383
>new costumes
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>>100967560
I picked him.
He was just too pretty, seriously.
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here what i thought of graces cast

assbel: typical MC number 1045. friendship is everything for him. total fag

sophie: soulless doll number 549. she is mostly boring as fuck but she has her cute loil moments if that's your thing sick fuck. shes Jesus

cheria:the "mother" of the group. typical pure maiden lusting after the mc cock. but like all mc, asbel cant see it because he wants to befriend Richard more.

malik: typical old wise mentor number 1076. for half the game hes just there until he decides to troll the party with pascal. likes fucking with sopihes mind and mostlikely a pedophile.

hubert: /k/ and /a/ love child. hes actually pretty smart but suffers from otaku syndrome and nerd rage. pretty cool guy in general.
also hates asbel for half the game because daddy issues

pscal: 100% altruism and the best character. her roll is to flash out everyone by acting like a retard. shes wants to rape Sophie and has a thing for her sister. she never baths.

Richard: king with trust issues. he joins maliks and pascals trolling team and exist for making the skits funny. pretty much that.

lambda: actually not your ANCIENT EVIL BOSS. hes a monster thing that got treated badly in the name of SCIENCE. his "dad" was so busy "playing" with him, he didint give hes "lover" enough dick making her so burthurt she ended up dooming the hole planet. lambda grow up to be a edgy faggot that hates humanity but asbel being the moralfag he is, convinced him stop.

he gives you free power ups later in the game so hes not that useless.

little queen: lamda 2.0 only shes actually a threat and can kick your ass if not careful.mad silly humans are destroying MUH NATURE so she killed them off over 100 years ago. she and Sophie becomes one and for some reason shes an "adult" now with tits bigger then cheria.

why assbel has no threesome is beyond my understanding
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>>100967560
I cried when I died
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>>100967663
Gaius was a Naruto-tier villain
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>>100967767
Am I the only one who ships Richard x Sophie?
Typing that made me feel like I've lost control of my life.
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Milla is the best Tales
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>>100965707
The only good thing about Symphonia 2 was beating the shit out of Marta near the end, I got the bad ending in the first run
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>>100967923
Yeah, pretty much, with Rita coming up juuuuuust behind her.
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>>100967976
>With dual audio you can beat the shit out of Kugyu.

Can't wait.
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>>100967560
Sorry bro, nepotism trumps friendship
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>>100967842
With looks to match.
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>>100967976
Marta is mai waifu, you take that shit back!
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>>100967876
you sick fuck
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>>100967842
>Abysskid still thinks it had the best characters
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>>100967923
Not even best Xillia.
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>>100968161
Milla will never return and Leia is Jude's only chance to not die as a virgin
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>>100968161
>>100968298
Do you fags even Xillia 2?
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>>100967842
I wish someone shut up Gaius's fascistic rants, kinda like Athena did with Saga at the end of Saint Seiya's 12 houses arc. Both Saga and Gaius were megalomaniac faggots with a god-tier power that tried to become gods and rule over the world because only the strong one can guide mankind so they think mass murder is OK.
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>>100968388
Leia is still into Jude on Xillia 2 and her VA compare their interaction on Xillia 2 to an old married couple
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>>100968388
Still best girl.
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>>100968617
That's not Milla
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bBCUEG_DI8#t=893

Xillia 2, don't watch if don't want to be spoiled

What are they doing, /a/?
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>>100965843
Closest i remember is Presea's Klonoa outfit
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>>100967663
He's an extremely weak villain, mainly because anyone would react like him ("Fucking mana-hungry people completely killed their world because of their hunger, tried to dominate our world to give us the same fate but we can now strike back extremely hard and wipe them out single handedly? No, let's only banish them back in their dying world until they swear they'll never do that shit again and then bring them to our world.") but the plot decided he should be the villain and thus pulled retarded shit in like the last hour of the game to try to justify it.

That's why he's probably one of the weakest entry as a villain in JRPG, his views are extremely rational and mostly fair given what he saw of the people of Elympios and I don't remember him killing a single person over it unless being provoked. It's obvious he was planned to be the last party member in Xillia with probably a crazy Musee as the final boss but they didn't have the time to do it.
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>>100969172
Actually, Gaius wanted to kill all the people from Elympios but the western dub cut it
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>>100963924
Which is why I prefer the original arc, which is pretty much a well-done AsbelxRichard fic.

"He's such a kind man... it's the trait I love most in him. I must take... GOOD care of him."

I cracked up during that part.
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>>100967698
I just remember his castle being very big and confusing. They don't make awesome levels like that in tales games anymore.
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>>100965707
Dual audio will make the sequel bearable. I loved the first game's dub, but holy shit they could not have fucked the second game's dub any more than they did.
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>>100967383
I forgot how much more I like Colette when her voice isn't like nails on a chalkboard.
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>>100968298
>Leia is Jude's only chance to not die as a virgin
There's also Elize you know. They're only two years apart.
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>>100969493
Leia seems to be more into Jude than Elize, they also has more history together
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Finally, a thread dedicated to the best girl. Finished the game a month ago, and it was mediocre at best. I hated the part where Miusel betrayed Maxwell and slammed him to the Lance, and the final battle was so easy as hell. I didn't like the ending either especially when Leia gave up her ambition to become a nurse. Housekeeper really?
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Hubert and Pascal is by far my favorite paring.

I really wish a epilogue or some soft of short after story can be setup for them.
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>>100969646
>especially when Leia gave up her ambition to become a nurse. Housekeeper really?
She becomes a reporter in the sequel.
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>>100969286
Well, it would still only be giving back the dicking Elympios tried to give to Rieze Maxia, why the fuck would the localization censor that?

It really makes the whole cast look like retards and along with the "surprise auto-generated mana fountain" called sprites turn the plot into a fucking joke. Seriously, the last two hours of Xillia seems to be only powered by the developers going "Oops, we totally forgot to make Gaius into a real villain, let's try to add a lot of retarded justifications as to why he's the baddie!".
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>>100969305
Lambda basically sensed Richard's inner homo and went with it in that scene
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>>100969646
>Leia gave up her ambition to become a nurse. Housekeeper really?

- Leia wanted to be a nurse just for marrying Jude. It was pretty simple plan, Jude was a medicine student and his dad owned a clinic so Leia wanted to be a nurse for helping Jude in his family business. At the end of Xillia, Leia want to look for something for herself despite she still has feelings for Jude

- Leia become a reporter on Xillia 2
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>tfw can't finish xillia
What went wrong with this game?
I just got Rowen and the game already feels like a chore to me.
Combat was sub-par. AI acts fucking retarded when linking in highlight of battle system of this game
I think Graces F combat was better.

Characters don't shine for me either.
Milla is boring. Jude isn't as interesting as Yuri.
Alvin is ok. Elysee is your typical shy loli which hate. Teepo is annoying. Rowen is ok.
Is Leia a genki type character?
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>>100969810
>why the fuck would the localization censor that?
Pic related. Gaius's fascistic speeches didn't help
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>>100969794
I fucking hate bamco for editing this scene in the non jap version.
Fuck the localisation team.
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>>100970048
What's the damage on that?
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>>100970048
What scene? I didn't know Pascal and Hubert had an edited scene
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>>100969933
Xillia is a good game but it's a weak tales. You don't really get into the plot.
And i hate how today's games doesn't have much secondary quests just because all the extra items are shitty DLCs. DLCs are the cancer killing the game industry.
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>>100969933
>I just got Rowen and the game already feels like a chore to me.
The whole, "Let's travel back to the very first city we saw!" part felt like a chore to me too, it gets way better once you get there.
>Is Leia a genki type character
Yes. But Alvin shoots the genki out of her with a well -placed bullet.
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Ok, the only really thing that mad was the ending.
The following part:

Fuck Jude for been a white knight till the end!
Millia wanted to become human to jump on his dick so much. But nooo. Piece of shit Jude said: you should be Maxwell. Use the mana for that
Piece of shit made me really angry.
You could feel she wanted him. And Jude wanted that fine piece of a spirit.
I don't know about the dub, but the undub was filled with sexual tension between the two

I still love you, Jude. You had the best VA ever (only reason to watch Vanguard, really). But fuck you!
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>>100969808
Wait, did you guys play Xillia 2 before its NA release? I actually spoiled myself a bit, but had no clue what's going on. I'm also waiting for Persona 5 next year.
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>>100970313
>Not Jude and Leia
They're childhood friends, bro.
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>>100970435
Who cares? Leia was boring.
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>>100970435
>Implying childhood friends ever win in Japan

TOPPEST LEL
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>>100970519
Cheria won
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>>100970519
I think it's implied that Farah won over Reid since there's no competition.
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>>100970560
She cheated.
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>>100970560
She didn't even have a competitor.
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>>100963198
It would have to make the story non canon.


Cause the story of Xillia sucked big time, mostly because it was rushed to all hell
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>>100970560
Graces F is shit

>M-M-MUH FRIENDSHIP
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>>100970710
Better than Symphonia 2


COURAGE IS THE MAGIC THAT CAN CHANGE FATE!
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>>100970643
She had richard and sophie both of which would have been better with Asbel than her
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>>100970519
Xillia 2 was a flop so Milla Returns: Tales of Xillia 3 will never happen. Leia is now all Jude has left.
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>>100970876
Wait, it was a flop?

This is news to me. I thought it was in every way shape and form a better Xillia
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>>100970988
It's the best tales game ever.
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>>100969933
I thought the combat was pretty fun, but the damage recieved is a bit high. You pretty much can't be hit or you die. I may have just been underleveled/ undergeared. While I did die a lot, it felt kind of meaningless since it almost impossible to lose as long as you bring in 2 healers.

Other than the combat, the rest of the game wasn't that great. The plot was kind of boring and Gaius shouldn't have been the final boss. Elympios should've been more than 2 quick areas. Level design was the weakest part. It was pretty much non-existent. Run from place to place in big open areas the whole game. I miss actually having to explore.

>>100970157
There are plenty of side quests it's just that most of them are pointless. "Go kill monster X in area Y". At least they reward accessories like sunglasses.
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Milla's the reason I have an /ss/ fetish now.
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>>100971144
Jude isn't a Shota
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>>100970988
Sales flop
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>>100971110
It's sad that all the important sidequests happen at ENDGAME.

By the way, worst endgame boss in Tales ever.
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>>100971196
In my head canon fapfics he is. Teepo also doesn't exist and Alvin dies. Really, it's just a superior version of the story all around.
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>>100971144
Lightning did it better. In fact, I bet Namco created JudexMilla for having its own Hopurai
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>>100970048
What did they change
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>>100971267
>Alvin dies
>superior
No.
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>tfw no slice of life Atelier anime

>tfw no Nier OVA
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>>100971267
>Alvin dies
>superior version
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I never really understood why people shat so much on Xilia's combat system. I honestly preferred it to Vesperia's broken ass gameplay that revolved around spamming and overlimit. The only real problem is that the party members haven't been nerfed enough in comparison, but it's honestly not that much different than other Tales.

The real complaints both relate to how it was rushed: shitty level design and a rushed final third. However, these don't bother me too much since I never particularly cared for Tales 'puzzles' and ToX2 will build more on Elympios anyways.

I really looking forward to ToX2, but it's going to suck knowing that Jude gets NTR'd hard by Ludger.
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>>100971382
>tfw no slice of life Atelier anime
Esta and Logy is getting animated.
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>>100969646
The final boss tooke me like 40 minutes to beat because Muset kept stopping time and spamming Sweet Treat and Life Bottles
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>>100971475
>Jude gets NTR'd hard by Ludger.
Yeah, about that...
Its a different Milla. Xillia 2 deals with alternate worlds.
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>>100971527
Pretty sure you could steal from her to stop that, or just kill her.
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>>100969810
>why the fuck would the localization censor that?
Because Gaius is literally Hitler.

I agree that the setup for Gaius becoming the villain wasn't that great, but it did make sense to a certain extent. Gaius was an asshole that always went to the extremes without thinking his plans through; Milla called him out on his bullshit and he literally had no response (even by the end of ToX). It would only make sense that he views most of Elympios as monsters trying to hurt 'his' people.
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I actually couldn't beat the final boss on hard. I couldn't do enough DPS to counter their healing because I accidentally used an All Divide instead of an Hourglass. I spent an hour going back and forth until I realized why I couldn't win. And then to make matters worse, the last time I saved was some time in Elympios, so I couldn't just turn the game off or return to the title screen. I was too prideful to get a game over on my own so I put the game on auto to do it for me.

The AI fought itself in a stalemate for 3 hours before my power went out.
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>>100971564
Story just keeps on getting worse and worse.


Hopes Zesta makes that better
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>>100971584
you cant steal from her. I know because I have Alvin and Leia teamed up all the time.
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>>100971527
People only say the final boss is hard because they're over leveled. Muzet+Gaius is a huge bitch to deal with unless you're good at the game and by good, I mean be Jude.
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>tfw you and Elle will never eat Milla's soup

Feels bad man.
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>>100971564
That still sucks. I thought Jude and Milla had something special that couldn't be separated by dimension or time. It's like they just wanted to give self-insert faggots a chance to have a waifu. This shit belongs in P4, not ToX.

>>100971637
Just knock her down whenever she's about to heal and focus on killing her first.
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>>100971527
>casually browsing /a/
>beat Gaius for the first time a few minutes ago
>just meet Muset
>Read this
Thanks a lot.
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>>100971502
Oh shit. I hope we get some delicious Linca.
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>>100971657
Well you can always kill her.
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>>100971657
You can steal from her though, that's the first thing you gotta do once you get Leia in your party. Beast that bitch and wait till the AI decides its time to steal.
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>>100971784
>mfw you can lose that battle and the game continues.
First time fighting him he wrecked my shit at about half his life bar.
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>>100971883
It must not stop her spam then.
Anyway I found the easiest way to do that boss is to have milla constantly spam light magic because she's weak to confusion.
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>>100971734
Alternate Milla dies anyway and the Real Milla goes back to Spirit World which ends up sealed for good.
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>>100971734
Alternate Milla dies anyway and the Real Milla goes back to Spirit World which ends up sealed for good.
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>I will never have a pretty girl lunge into my arms, being happy to see me, after I was thought to be dead from a great fall.
;_;
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>>100972266
>You will never be NTR'ed by the lord of spirits
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>>100972266
Judith/Yuri is my OTP

Estelle/Rita is another OTP

Karol/Karolete is another OTP

Raven/the World is another OTP
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>>100971784
>coming into a thread about a game you haven't finished and complaining about spoilers
>2014
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>>100972392
I didn't open the thread, I was just lurking the 0 page.
That'll teach me to use the catalog more.
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>>100972376
>not shipping Raven with yourself
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>>100964379
I did the same thing
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>>100972263
Well, it looks like I now have no reason to pick up ToX2.

Fucking Namco, putting shitty pairings like Reid x Farah and Asbel x Cheria together, but not giving me my Jude x Milla.
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>>100965843
Tales of Graces F in Japan got Miku outfit and Code Geass outfits
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>thought muzet was an awesome crazy xmas cake
>sad she only showed up in the final 1/3rd of the game
>discover she's playable in the sequel

FUCK YEAH
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>>100965308
>>100964791
Alvin with Elize, though
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>>100963312

Needs to make it about Pascal x Hubert, then I'd watch it.
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>>100973434
>not Alvin with Rowen
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>>100973434
>Elize hates him most of the game
>That cutscene between them at the end of the game
my icy heart felt a feel.
why is Elize so perfect?
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>>100973434
I'm pretty sure all of the female party members in ToX had a crush on Jude.
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>>100974690
And he managed to keep being a virgin.
What a man.
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Jude is best girl. Other girls a shit.
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>>100975110
Jude will move on to Leia when he become an adult, Milla will remain as a childhood memory and his first crush. Search your feelings, you know it is true
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>>100975773
>Jude will move on to Elize when he become an adult
Fixed
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>>100975997
Elize's feelings for Jude seemed more like a crush and tween girls constantly change their crushes while Leia's feelings seemed more serious.
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Tales of Xillia 3 will be released, because of Xillia 2 true ending

SEARCH YOUR HEARTS, YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE
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>>100976189
Xillia 2 got terrible sales and Namco has already moved on to Tales of Zestiria
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>>100976353
It will be on PS4
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>>100976189
But Xillia 2 had shit sales.
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>>100976103
Leia a shit. A complete useless shit. She doesn't get good until 2 and by then she's paired off with Alvin.

>>100976189
Tales of Xillia: Milla Returns
Elize is Elle's senpai; they go to the same high school.
Elle replaces Ludger.
Rowen is too old to continue battling, but stays relevant. He is replaced as primary caster by Elle's classmate who is shipped with her.
Rest of the characters return.
Jude and Gaius get to fuck their spirit waifus.

MAKE IT HAPPEN NAMCO.
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>>100976103
>Leia's feelings
>Serious
It was literally a one sided childhood crush that never grew to be anything more than a fantasy. Getting down to it, Milla was the only one that truly understood Jude and he her.
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>>100975228
What the hell am I looking at?
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>buy Xillia because I wanted to play a Tales game after a long time
>mfw still no Japanese audio
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>>100976558
It could be worse anon.

>buy ni no kuni on a whim
>set it to use japanese audio
>about an hour in can't figure out why some of the character names are being pronounced so weird... almost like they're different names... (they are)
>can't use the j-audio because the subs are for the english dub thus the translation isn't even close to right
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>>100976414
>>100976445
Xillia 1 wasn't that well-received either. It had great sales for being the anniversary game but it also got a huge backlash, accusing the game for being a rushed underdeveloped game. Actually Xillia was a rushed underdeveloped game because Namco forced the developers to finish just in time for Tales's anniversary. Xillia 2 got many of the incomplete ideas that weren't used on the first game but Japan just had enough with Xillia and the game was an economical failure.

After the announce of Zestiria, probably Namco is trying to forget about Xillia.
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>>100963911
>Girl
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>100970710
I vastly preferred Graces' story to... well, all the other Tales games released this generation in English. And Abyss.

Except the future arc. Aside from the trolling, I found it rather dull.

>>100970757
You got the motto wrong. It's "courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality." If you're remembering it wrong, they should have added more needless flashbacks.
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>>100976558
I thought the VA was pretty good aside from Elize and Milla.

Symphonia will always have the best English audio though.
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>>100977498
Only Bamco would consider 500k for a game that reuses assets like a motherfucker a "failure". It made 500k and they wanted 650k. Boohoo.
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>>100979381
Graces' story is absolute dog shit. I don't see how you could possibly think it has a better story than any of the other games.
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>>100977498
>that whole second half of the game that's just not there and was simply skipped with a "syprites will fix all of our problems!"
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>>100976830
Ni no Kuni japanese audio it's pretty shit for what I heard.
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>still waiting for my copy of Innocence R to get here
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>>100979736
I found the friendship-themed story more relatable than many of the other English-language Tales games. It's not award-winning stuff, but it kept me reasonably entertained even if it was fairly predictable and the villain's characterization was beyond awful.

It also helps that I preferred it over most of the English Tales games by default. Vesperia's story was schizophrenic, dropped its theme of "justice" halfway through, and the third act was so incredibly lazy that I found that part alone more offensive than some of the more cringe-worthy moments. Especially since they shoehorned mana, spirits, and all these other Tales tropes at the last minute when it truly didn't need them. It feels like they had more content to work with, and built a half-assed second half of the story to justify its inclusion.

Meanwhile, I found Abyss' political intrigue and constant technobabble to be unfathomably dull. The constant backtracking towards the end made it even worse. I understand why people like the game's story, and I respect those opinions, but it just wasn't my cup of tea. One person's world-building is another's melatonin supplement.

Xillia's story I just couldn't bring myself to care about.

Then again, most of the games with stories I enjoyed stayed in Japan (Rebirth, Hearts, Destiny Remake). At least we got Symphonia and Legendia, and we're getting Xillia 2. Given how nice Namco has been to us recently, maybe we'll get more.

Zestiria's story seems tropey as hell so far. Then again, I said the same thing about Graces and Hearts before they were released and I rather enjoyed those. Fingers crossed.
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Hey, could anyone please teach me about bazongas?
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>>100980331
Enjoy it. I had more fun with it than the original release. They actually managed to spice up the FR-LMBS game design.

Sadly the game is as ugly as sin. A little cel shading would have gone a long way.
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>>100965392
Richard's scene where everyone gets a chance to talk to Lamda is so much better than Cheria's. And the way he puts his hand on Asbel's cheek is pretty fucking gay because putting your hand on someone's cheek like that is almost exclusively a romantic gesture.

>>100980225
I haven't heard that the Japanese audio is shit, just that the English dub is so good there's no reason to use it.
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>>100980225
It's better than having to figure out what the fucking fairy is saying in it's deep welsh accent.
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>>100979555
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRMyoOvLUdI
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>>100979555
I say Vesperia had the best. Especially Rita and Yuri.
Though I've only played Symphonia, Phantasia, and Vesperia (In that order).
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Abyss > Phantasia > Vesperia = Symphonia > Xillia > dirt.

The only reason why I rate Xillia > dirt is because Milla a qt man3.14.
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But most vidya adaptations are shit.
And what studio would do it? I guess Ufotable would be the most logical choice but they're currently Type-Moon's bitch.
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>>100985107
I hope that ranking is only for story.
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>>100985316
It shouldn't be if Abyss is in first.
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>>100985238
Naturally Sunrise has to do it. They did a pretty spot on adaptation of Abyss. There was a bit of QUALITY here and there, but it was enjoyable. Probably best to finish the game first before watching the anime since the anime spoils everything.
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>>100984240
To be fair that's more of a fault with the script than the voice acting. Shit line is shit.

>>100984764
Vesperia is my second fav. Can't go wrong with Troy Baker.
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>Vesperia PS3
It still hurts.
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>>100986301
At least we actually got a version of Vesperia.

Unlike Destiny 2.

Or Rebirth.

Or Hearts.

Or Innocence.
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>>100986301
>not owning a 360 to play all the chinese cartoon games it has
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I want to pump Milla full of my cum.
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>>100986602
Who don't?
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best
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>Constant tired anime cliches thrown in your face.
>"IS THIS REALLY THE ONLY WAY?"

Yea, nah. They're pretty shit. I don't know how people can play them, much less watch them.
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>>100986483
Or Tempest
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>>100987386
Worst game I've ever played. Truly a game of masochists.
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>>100987386
Who cares about Tempest?
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>>100987203
I want Milla to pump me full of her cum.
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>>100987229
Damn Alter Millia. Same hotness as original plus not slutty outfit.
Too bad her personality is of a tsundere shit.
I don't hate tsunderes, in fact, my waifu is a tsundere. I hate Alter Millia type of tsundere
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Tales of the Tempest R is coming

http://abyssalchronicles.com/?fn_mode=comments&fn_id=839&fn/page=78
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>>100988204
They can't unfuck Tempest unless they make it a completely different game.
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>>100987229
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>>100988588
Hence the R

Reimagination just like Innocence R and Hearts R

It will totaly not be clusterfuck that Tempest was
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Milla is the best Tales
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>>100988707
I really liked her, Millia. I liked her a lot.
But she choosing not to be Jude's waifu at the end killed my love for her. Even if she was right.

I think best Tales is Leia. She kind of went unnoticed in the game
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>>100988653
The difference between Tempest, Hearts and Innocence is that Hearts was already top tier before hand and Innocence would be great if it had better dungeons. Tempest is pretty much a bootleg version of Rebirth with every single flaw with none of the positives.
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>>100988653
>3 years ago
I love how they put foreshadowing here and there but when the fuck they will announce it.
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>>100988972
I thought Innocence R was better than the original and Hearts R was.... well, I liked it, but they really didn't need to tear away a lot of the mechanics of the original (EG, CG, etc). Also the new dungeon designs were bad.

Still liked the game though. Replaying for the third time right now. Mania mode!
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>>100989239
I was comparing the DS versions of each game actually.
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>>100986509
>all the chinese cartoon games it has
Not many.
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>>100967767
I like these.


Wanna do some of the others?
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>>100988926
Gaius killing the real Maxwell killed any chance for JudexMilla. Fucking asshole! And he got away with everything becoming emperor of the known world. Fuck Japan!
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>>100969172
Muzet and Gaius were supposed to be party members in the first game
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>>100986509
>Playing inferior incomplete beta Vesperia
>Not playing glorious PS3 Vesperia Complete Perfect Edition

>>>/out/
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>>100989474
A lot
>>100989821
>being poor
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>>100990076
>Not being able to play Flynn
>Not being able to play Patty
>Not being able to fight exclusive PS3 super bosses

Stay mad, faggot
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>>100987361
I agree with this post.

I mostly play the Tales games for the combat system. The actual characters and story are cringe-worthy beyond belief.
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>>100990250
>Not being able to play Flynn
You can in the 360 version... (for about 5 minutes)
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>>100990250
stay poorfag I have both versions cept I get to play it in English the superior language
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>>100990356
Who doesn't have both? You're just stuck with an incomplete. inferior version while non retards have a full game.
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>>100990448
>incomplete
Not this shit again...
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>>100990282
I'd say the skits are also a big part of Tales games and generally the interactions between characters are fun. If you think absolutely all of them are cringe-worthy, I don't even know how you watch most anime.
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So what was direct tethering again?
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Just came to post that Jude is a fag. Don't care about inactivity.
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>>100990282
The stories are often shit but a good portion of the characters are pretty good. And with a few exceptions, most of them are not any worse than your average anime character.
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>>100991720
Mana transfer
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>>100991720
Think mana transfer
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>>100969172
>>100969810

i agree with you anon, gaius was doing the right thing for HIS people, it just happens that the main characters found that deus ex machina that solves both worlds problems

i guess well see how well that goes in xillia 2
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>>100969172
Originally, there were three scenarios planned. In one, Gaius would join the party and fight against Musee with you. In the second, Musee would join your cause and help you battle Gaius. The third was what we actually got.
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>>100991935
>>100991942
Oh
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>wanting to see Jude get blue balled in anime form
I can't take it no more captain.
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>Bamco is localizing the Vita Tales games
on iOS
Why do video game companies insist everyone learn moon?
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>>100986301
http://tumblr.playstationeuphoria.com/post/48623160854/it-is-final-tales-of-vesperia-ps3-is-not-being
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>>100967178
Its actually not that bad. Collette is good in any party with the hammers/para ball/angel song.
Raine is also good in any party because she's the fucking healer.

Presea and Sheena for your frontline damage, both are actually pretty decent frontliners. All you're lacking is magic damage but it doesn't really matter much as long as you wear the proper elemental weapons (when applicable) with Sheena and Presea.
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>>100994923
Still waiting for Hearts R localization.
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>>100994923
Although i can see them doing that what with Phantasia and all, Namco has gotten pretty generous lately. If Hearts does come out over here, Sony will probably get them to release the Vita version, too. Sony took note of a Twitter campaign for Vita localizations and Hearts came out above Final Fantasy Type 0. That's a rare achievement, especially considering public opinion about the Vita games isn't exactly great, although I've played both and I enjoyed them both more than Xillia and Vesperia. The graphics are shit but they have nice stories (ESPECIALLY Hearts, one of the best stories in the series) and better gameplay than ToV and ToX. Pretty surprising considering the games aren't even developed by Namco.

And only Hearts R is on the iOS. Ironic considering it has the more complex controls between the two games.
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>>100995719
I still have hopes for its localization, if not, I'll wait until the Vitas are fully hacked.

I played the iOS version myself, but didn't get very far because of the controls, but I can agree that the gameplay is far better/funner than Xillia and Vesperia.
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>>100989821
I just checked the differences, the PS3 one let's you use Repede as an on-screen avatar.

Japs are so lucky
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>>100996118
I've only played the Vita version (actually just ragequit because Chalcedony and his stupid armor are a fucking BITCH on mania). I can't even begin to imagine how it would control on a phone.

>>100996244
His doggie paddle while swimming is hilarious.
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>>100996418
>Chalcedony
>mfw I realized he's voiced by Kamiya
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>>100996628
And Creed is voiced by Shinichiro Miki.
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>>100996418
This makes me want to just grab it anyways and have the 360 script on my laptop or something.

I was really looking forward to the loli pirate as well, but apparently that's a PS3 only too
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>>100963312
This
I want to see my daughteru Sophie and Pascal animated
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>>100996758
I had no idea he was the Japanese voice of James from Pokemon.

>>100996853
Go for it. Certainly beats screaming on Facebook on it despite them saying "no" heaven knows how many times.

However, the 360 version is still a good game. Aside from some really weird typos, it's got a solid localization and a very nice dub. The only things I miss from the PS3 version when playing it are the ability to skip cutscenes and the item that lets you set 16 Artes at once.
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>>100997160
>Certainly beats screaming on Facebook on it despite them saying "no" heaven knows how many times.
They couldn't localize it now even if they wanted to, could they? I thought they made some sort of deal with Microsoft that means the PS3 version actually can't be localized.
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>>100997160
The 16 artes would be great - it was one of my favorite features of Xillia.

I wonder if they'll bring it into Symphonia Chronicles

>>100997492
If they did, hopefully it was a time-restricted contract. That would explain Namco's brick-wall "no" about the localization
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>>100997492
Microsoft contract expired. I think it was like for a year or something? Then Vesperia PS3 came out back when Namco was in their ill-advised "me too" Western kick in 2009-2010. Came out at a bad time, along with Hearts DS. I'm convinced we would have gotten both of those games had they not been so gung-ho about trying to westernize.

Honestly, though, at this point ToV PS3 would just be bad from a business standpoint. The script for the PS3 version was 3/4 the size of the 360 version. Then they'd have to round up the voice actors again (dubbing is VERY expensive), and the localization producer for the 360 version left for Tecmo. And then again, the game is nearly four years old (five if you count the 360 version). Hardcore Tales fans would eat it up, but the overseas fanbase is relatively small and they'd have a hard time marketing it to less hardcore fans. It's unfortunate, but in the end I'm content that we got actually got a version of the game when all is said and done.

>>100997644
It's not in Chronicles. Neither is scene skip. It was kind of a lazy port, they didn't even fix the PS2 version's slower framerate (GC is 60FPS, PS2 is 30FPS).
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>>100997644
I just did a quick search and according to Troy Baker there had been plans for a European PS3 release? And then about two years later Namco said they weren't doing it. It looks like the initial localization was a lot of work and there either issues with localizing the PS3 version or they just decided it wasn't worth it.

http://gematsu.com/2010/06/troy-baker-confirms-tales-of-vesperia-ps3-localization-in-video
http://operationrainfall.com/tales-producer-announces-remakes-talks-localization/

>>100998011
Troy Baker said at a con like three years ago now that there was supposed to be a European release and he wasn't sure why the game didn't have a US release date. So it was probably due to issues besides dubbing because even the voice actors expected it to be localized.
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>>100998437
The other voice actors have said they were never called in. E-mail any of them except Troy and they'll tell you as much. Troy even says here he's not sure what he worked on...

http://www.rpgsite.net/interview/2884-troy-baker-interview-part-2

He didn't even remember if he had done Dawn of the New World or not and had to call up the studio and ask. Considering the amount of work the guy gets, I'm not surprised. He could have just made a simple mistake.

Going off of that, John Ricciardi, the co-founder of the company that translates the Tales games for Namco, said on NeoGAF they never did any work for Vesperia PS3. Can't find the post in question, but I know he said it.

[just as an aside, don't trust Gematsu. They google translate everything and once wrote an article about how Namco was "oppressing" the Western Tales fanbase despite announcing new games for overseas release, and then used notoriously inaccurate VGchartz numbers to back up their points].
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>>100999161
Basically ever tales thread ever to a fucking T.

also milla best girl, even dub va's lisp grew on me.
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>>100987229
Alt Milla > Milla

Objectively.
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>>100999161
The kingdom hearts version makes me laugh the most.
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What the fuck is this I hear about real Milla getting sealed off in the spirit world forever? Milla Returns sequel NEVER?
Fuck you Namco, Alt Milla better be worth it.
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>>100999447
AH fuck you have it? I only have tales and ace combat as those are the two vidya franchises I follow the most.
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>>100999523
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>>100965504
This.

Yuri don't need no bitch to hold him down.
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>>100970682
I don't know if I liked the overall plot of Xillia, but it had some great moments. Jude punching out Maxwell was fucking awesome, even if it was incredibly cliche.
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>>100999606
He doesn't need a bitch
He needs Flynn.

Seriously, that delivery on that "I'm so proud to call you my friend... Yuri Lowell" line at the end was shippy as hell.
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>>100999468
>You will never see Milla's throbbing cock in its full glory
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>>100999604
But seriously
Where the fuck is Darkwing Duck?
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>>100999604
The 3rd to last panel could have been better. Could probably make one for big anime franchises like Gundam or EVA too.
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>>100999161
>Dwarven Vow Number 7
>Justice and Love will always win

thanks, now it will plague my mind for the next week

Symphonia will always have that special place in my heart, though
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>>100999718
it's her crowning glory
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>>100999782
But you missed the best saying.
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>>100999161
>Even though everyone claims that Luke is a terrible protagonist, everyone for some reason also seems to deny the credibility of the remaining cast.
Am I the only one who couldn't stand most of the party? I liked Guy and Jade was okay sometimes but other than that everyone kinda sucked. At least Luke had excuses for his behaviour but I actually lost interest and stopped playing shortly after Akzeriuth because they all annoyed me so much.

>>100999260
I guess that makes more sense. It did seem kinda weird that they'd gone so far as to record the extra scenes and then scrapped the localization.
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So who will you direct tether with?
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>>101000170
Gaius, it has to be Gaius.
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>>100969439
what are you talking about? Heather hogan manages to make one of the more Adorable cute voices

pic related
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>>101000170
Leia.
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>>101000170
Teepo while Elize is watching over us.
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>>100969439
Would you rather listen to the second English Lloyd voice?
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>>101000170
Muzet isn't worth it with those daddy issues of hers

Milla is so pure
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>>101000341
Fairly certain that was Cassandra Morris bro. Sounds way too much like Totori to not be
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>>101000578
nono it is heather hogan
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TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPOOOOO
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>>101000578
It's Heather Hogan. Symphonia 1's actors were actually credited.

Cassandra Morris was Sophie.
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>>101000170
Leia.
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MUTTON

FRESH MUTTON
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>>101000658
>>101000719
I was actually talking about Clorica from Rune Factory 4, but either way I do think it could be either one of the two actresses.

Regardless of who it was Clorica's voice did something to my heart like you wouldn't believe.
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>>100963312
Graces is the best Tales game. The story is passable, and even good in parts, but anyone who pretends Tales games aren't about gameplay first is lying to themselves. And Graces is simply the best in that regard.
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>>101000689
Sharing is caring.
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Tales games are made with fujoshi in mind.
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>>101000857
>Graces story
>passable
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>>101000857
be careful about where you say that. some people will castrate you for saying nice things about Graces' gameplay
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>>101000857
>Graces' gameplay
>good

Pick one.
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>>101000886
no shit

they probably buy more copies then the west combined
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Welp, if only localized version had Japanese voice option...

Time to rack up my Japanese skills...
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>>101000912
It was generic, but it wasn't bad. Sophie is the best Tales girl and carries the story by herself imo.

>>101000933
What the fuck? The CC system was miles better than any sort of mana system, as it rewards skill instead of item usage and there really isn't a way to plow through for those who don't want to take the time to understand the system. It was my first Tales game, and I was extremely pissed when I started Xillia and Abyss and realized A- and B- Artes were a one time thing.

I do wish some of the Graces bosses were more challenging, though. Xillia had better boss fights.
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I've never played Symphonia, would buying Chronicles be a good choice?
I could also emulate it on Dolphin.
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>>100999768
>there will never be an Ace Combat Anime
It hurts, because the plots are already perfect for anime.
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>tfw no Kiseki anime
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>>101000912
Not tha anon but Graces's story was so bad that it was hard to get angry with the writers. except for Cheria bullshit. I found Xillia more cringeworthy, maybe because it tried to be "epic" or something
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>>101001017
Tales dubs are actually pretty good, although IMO they've been slipping in quality since after Vesperia. Dawn was a recasted, poorly directed disappointment borne of a lower VA budget. Graces, while good, had too many actors who had been in previous Tales games for my tastes. Xillia had some weird delivery issues, the sound quality was lower than what we're used to, cast someone who had voiced many previous Tales characters in a lead role, and whoever voiced Elize was awful IMO.

>>101001095
You'd be surprised at the number of people who call it a "button masher" and will enforce that opinion through extreme measures and, occasionally, insults.
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Favorite town: Xian Du
Favorite antagonist: Jiao ;_;
Favorite spell(s): Negative Gate, Tidal Wave, Soulstroke Spin

Also, did the Devs remove the shop upgrade in the sequel?
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>>101001095
My biggest complain with the battle system in Graces is how many artes are tied to the A-artes "flowchart", and there was no way you could do them without following it.
I felt like some "classic" artes that were in that flowchart lost their shine since you can't do them on the fly (looking at you Beast).
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>>101001411
Shop upgrade is gone in Xillia 2.
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>>101001381
If Graces is a 'button masher' then all other Tales games are just as, or more, deserving of that title.
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>>101001457
That's good to hear. Weaponry was the only thing I've ever used.
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>>101001017
I got kind of use to Milla's voice and then for some inexplicable reason I started getting boners from it.
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>>101001381


>You'd be surprised at the number of people who call it a "button masher"

This. Its like all they ever played werr Team Symphonia titles.
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>>100963198
>Direct tether
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>>101001411
Does Xillia 2 have full element list, or are ice and thunder still not included. I kinda wish Indignation was a spell again.
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>>101001140
Buying Chronicles would be better than emulating on Dolphin. I don't know what kind of issues Symphonia might have on Dolphin.
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>>101001095
The CC system was great in Destiny DC, but in Graces they decided to completely fucking ruin it.

The A-Artes system is complete shit and only gives you the illusion that it brings more to the combat. It also leads to a shitty elemental weakness system with some characters having a harder time reaching certain artes they need to use.

It removed aerial play, one of the best parts of Tales games, which is completely inexcusable.

The combat revolves around turtling and the dodging system doesn't even work properly.

A-Artes and B-Artes were certainly an interesting and unique idea but Hubert was the only one I feel to fully utilize the system. And Cheria is broken as shit.
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>>101001095
>there really isn't a way to plow through for those who don't want to take the time to understand the system.
It's not really that difficult on normal to play without understanding it. I just faked it for a decent portion of the game and then half figured it out because it was pretty obvious just by playing and IIRC the game kept re-explaining stuff to me. The combat was more fun once I actually paid attention to how the battle system worked but it wasn't absolutely necessary to play through the game.
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>>101001140
Chronicles is the ps2 version which has extra stuff, you can of course emulate that but its not translated.
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>>101001140
I'd say so. Chronicles looks nicer, has additional outfits, and it comes with both Symphonia and its sequel Dawn Of The New World

Here's a side-by-side comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UBtEYlXXxI

Also, Symphonia has been known to have problems with Dolphin, like for me, the audio is messed up, but then again I'm on a laptop so I can't judge.
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>>101001095
I literally just spammed Asbel's B-artes and the game was easy as fuck, even on chaos.
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>>101001907

Outfits sure, but they ruined that glorious celshading
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>>100974217
A heartwarming moment for sure.
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>>101000857

Graces combat is overhyped.

>Restrictive A-arte tree
>Shitty options for CC-kickback
>No Airgame

In addition to
>No overmap
>No good puzzles in dungeons until the future arc

Besides people who say that only gameplay matters are retarded. Sure its more important to have good gameplay than a good story. Bujt why would you not want BOTH?
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Half in the game, I was so done with Alvin's bullshit. At least he should took the job of hiding his crap instead of everyone forgiving him like 10 times just because he's charming. I fucking hate UNDERSTANDING
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>>100966757
I'll take lisp Milla anyday as long as I don't have to listen to fucking Japanese Jude.
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>Tales of Destiny will never get a 3D remake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygI9d6NDvXs
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>tfw no Destiny anime

Actually, nevermind. The amount of Leon faggotry would be off the charts for the first half and then it would mean watching best Destiny lose to Rutee again during the last half.
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>>101001463
How so? You literally mash A artes for everyone except assbel and then end with a b arte and all a artes combo so it doesn't really matter how you mash.
With assbel you just mash b artes.
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>>101002377
ToD works great in 2D; why would you want it in 3D?
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>>101002467
I feel so bad for Philia. I wish she could have found a husbando.
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>>101002347
Whose story are you doing?
Alvin has his reasons (I'm biased towards defending him because I played him 100% of the chances I could)
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We never did get those Star Driver costumes in the west.
I knew it was unrealistic to expect it, even in the slightest, but I am still saddened by this.

This galaxy is not shining.
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>>101001557
Oh good, I wasn't the only one.
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>>101002669
>muh sad past, I'm not really a bad person
I guess if the story could excuse of any blame to Gaius, Muzet and Isla; I shouldn't be surprised about Alvin.
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>>101002467
>Leon
He should have just learn how to swim...
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>>101000170
Gaius
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>>101001140
I remember Symphonia having sound issues on dolphin. I ended up burning a copy and playing it on my wii directly instead.
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>>101002324
My problem with Graces is that it's the logical progression of the combat system introduced around Abyss. It's nearly all just mindless spamming.

At least Xilia tries something new that forces you to develop a rhythm in battle instead of spamming the same 4 artes and popping overlimit every once in awhile.
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>>101002588
>mash A-artes
>Malik
>Richard

lel
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>>101002921
How many times has Leon died? Almost 10 right?
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>>101002867
>I killed a helpless old lady but I want to be happy, LOVE ME!!!
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>>101000170
Leia gets all of my mana
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>>101002967

I personally think that Vesperia combat is the most fun. Sure it gets broken really easily but by the end your combos are less about killing the enemy and more about how long and ludicrous your combos can be.

I miss Judith...
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>>101003081
>not mashing a artes with richard
>not playing on manual
>not getting those fast casts

Its like you're not even playing Graces
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>>101002669
Got anymore?
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>>101003081

>Malik
>Spam culling flare

Great Game Gracetards :^)
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>>101003162
>mashing a artes
>fast casts

Why are you contradicting yourself?

Both Richard and Hubert are mixed characters, and using A-artes and B-artes in combination with them is far more effective than just spamming.

Although I will admit I just ended up standing back and spamming Vengeant Fangs as Richard near the end because I was just sick of the game and it has absurdly high damage.
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>>101003269
You realize that if you chain more a-artes before a b-arte the b will cast faster, right?
The Anon is correct. Learn how to play.
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>>101003262
That might be the case in the future arc, but you don't even get Culling Flare until the second to final dungeon in the original game.
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>>100965504
He has way better chemistry with Judith, though his interactions with Estelle were cute.
But honestly im find with there being no romance though.
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>>100999161
>no pancake time

Im disappointed anons...
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>>101001681
When's the last time they used Indignation? Abyss?
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As far as ToG's combat goes I vastly prefer it over the rest of the 3D games in the series (Vesperia felt like a quantum leap back from Destiny PS2), but I wasn't a fan of the A-Arte tree. Tiered chaining in all forms needs to go away. There are ways to evolve playstyles without restricting your combos that much. Destiny PS2 evolved in a meaningful way. Hearts' combat expanded in a meaningful way (so long as you didn't spam Shouseijin like a numbnuts).

As far as the "spamming" accusation goes... the game specifically limits spamming. There's a notable delay when using an Arte more than twice in a row, and the A-Arte tree seems to exist specifically to avoid spamming (not exactly the ideal way to solve it, but it's still a "solution" in the fact that you can't use the same move over and over again with it).

>>101001798
>the dodging system doesn't work properly
The dodging system is actually one of the reasons why I really enjoyed Graces more than games with free run and nothing else. It worked fine for me. It really emphasized learning boss patterns.

>>101002324
>No good puzzles in dungeons until the future arc

Wow, this is... the first time I've ever seen someone say something nice about the F-Arc dungeons. Refreshing opinion, albeit one I disagree with. The dungeons are half the reason I never replay the F arc.

>>101002377
It doesn't need one. Destiny PS2 is orgasmic... although come to think of it, that Pachislot games does look pretty damn nice, graphically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VjyjInubww

>>101002967
Huh? Vesperia seemed like more of a progression from Abyss. Same chaining system (albeit slightly expanded). Overlimit was expanded. In fact, that's part of why I didn't much care for it since I had grown pretty tired of the Team Symphonia combat engine at that point.

As far as ToX goes, it's probably the only game in the series where I felt rewarded for spamming (both normal Artes and Link Artes... Wyrm Wrath makes mincemeat of mobs in seconds).
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>>101003344
Uh... yeah. Using A-artes to get quick casting is not the same thing as spamming A-artes mindlessly.
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>>101003269
That still comes down to: spam A-Artes use one B-Arte. So your still mostly spamming A-Artes.
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>>101003199
I gotta go so I'm just gonna post the Tumblr page that does translations
http://taleslations.tumblr.com/

>inb4 tumblr a shit
yeah well it's better than having to learn moon
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>>101003413
Yeah, it kinda is.
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>>101003387
Vesperia PS3, Rita's second MA
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>>101003262
>Gracetards

Elitist insults like this are exactly why I have difficulty sympathizing with people who dislike aspects of that particular combat system.
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>People seriously complaining Dawn of the New World was just upscaled instead of completely remade
I know it's my own fault for reading youtube comments, but seriously the game just came out in 2008 and it was a piece of shit anyway. Not only does it not need a remake because it looks fine, it would be a total waste unless it was also a completely new game.
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>>101003465
Innocence R (Spada). Not counting remakes of games that already had that arte, Graces F.
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>>101002867
This stupid bitch. Holy shit, I wish I could've beaten her with my own hands.
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>>101003615
I'm glad that bitch goes into a coma, the only part about it that sucks is that Yurgen has to suffer due to having to see his lover suffer.

I wish she would have actually died.
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>>101003130
Yeah, it seems to me like the people who hated ToX's combat the most are the people who like to do infinite combos. Personally, it just wasn't for me.

>>101003395
>it's probably the only game in the series where I felt rewarded for spamming
You can't spam in ToX because of boss guards and interrupts. Compare to Vesperia where you can do ludicrous shit with Yuri.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UGnrHgyhc8
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>>101003262

>Gracetards

This is the sort of shit I expect from /v/
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>>101003615
B-but she wants to be happy. And she's in love, don't you feel sorry for her?

>Only in Japan
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>>101003395
Rewarded for spamming in a game where every boss interrupts when you spam?
How?
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>>101003608
graces f had a pretty cool chat and animation for it.
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>>101003789
>I want to be happy
>But I fucked over a bunch of orphans in the past and never apologized
>But I get asshurt when someone holds it over my head
>So I'll just kill another innocent person so I can get my happy ending :^)

What a bitch.
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>>101002867
All she had to do was take care of a bedridden woman that lived in the same damn city as her. Holy fuck.
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>>101003438
Thanks
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>>101003823
Considering Namco is run by idiots, it's unlikely to see Hearts R localized.
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>>101003885
The irony is that that hat woman probably would've died in a few more months anyways.
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>>101003995

I don't know, Baba seems to be getting better. The fact he localized ToX2 and Zestiria is a sign

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/12/tales-series-producer-hideo-baba-gets-feel-western-tales-fans/
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I've never played a Tales game before. Where do I start? All I have is a dreamcast, a halfway decent pc, and a hacked psp though.
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>>101004072

For 2D try Eternia, for 3D any of the entry level Tales titles (Abyss, Symphonia, Xillia, Vesperia)
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>>101004072

Oops, misread, scratch off xillia and Vesperia since you dont have a 360 or ps3. Abyss and Symph can be emulated
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>>101001289
Late reply, but: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=12990
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>>101004072
Uh... emulate ToE for the PS, ToS for GC, and ToA for PS2.

Nothing else is really worth finding translation patches for.
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>>101003387
>>101001681
was disappointed that they really didn't add indignation, it's like one of Tales strongest lighting move of all times
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>>101003823
Sony of America or Japan? or both?

Either way, my hopes are high on that.
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>>101003735
Was mainly referring to normal battles. I had my own share of problems with the boss battles. I'm all for balancing (soloing Vesperia with Yuri is the easiest thing I've ever done) but breaking out as often as they did seemed like a really lazy way about fixing that. The guard countering in Innocence R and Hearts R were better solutions to turning enemies into punching bags. Even normal enemies had it. On top of that, damage and stun time would drastically reduce when spamming.

>>101003818
It seemed to interrupt whenever you DIDN'T spam.

>>101003739
Seems to be pretty common from certain parts of the fandom, sadly. Some people even get banned from certain parts of the 'net for talking nice about Graces. I can understand not liking the combat system. Hell, I can understand hating it. But the venom is just a tad overdone in some places.

>>101003914
Brilliant. Saved.

>>101003823
Link to the article confirming this?

>>101003995
>Xillia released last year
>Zestiria localization announced day of its reveal
>Symphonia Chronicles localization announced day of its reveal
>Xillia 2 announced before part one was even out
>Phantasia iOS in English out of nowhere

Stranger things have happened.

>>101004072
>hacked PSP

If you are VERY good with Japanese, try Rebirth (PSP). It's fantastic, but its combat is pretty unorthodox (although brilliant). You might want to try emulating Symphonia (GC).
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>>101001798
>It removed aerial play, one of the best parts of Tales games, which is completely inexcusable.
You do not know how glad I was seeing characters with a strong air game in ToX. Aerial combat is one of the best parts of the Tales games.
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>>101004180
I played the psp one a bit. Tales of the world or something. But it was just generic "kill X Y's in level Z". All the games aren't like that are they?

I'll look for the ones you mentioned though.
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>>100966127
But that was by ufotable, so that's to be expected.
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>>101004303
>we will never get another Indignation Judgement ever again.
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>>101004355

Murrica

http://gearnuke.com/sony-gearing-big-vita-re-launch-new-games-jrpgvita-announcement-expected/
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>>101003262
>Malik
>not using Ice Spires

Bit hot under the collar?
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>>101004385
Hearts R has a system built around aerial combat (they recover a bit too quickly for my taste, though).
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>>101004400

TotW is horrible piece of shit, sorry you had to play that. Go try Eternia
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>>101004380
>Was mainly referring to normal battles.
I don't really consider normal battles a good measure of pros/cons since they're mindless in all Tales games.

> The guard countering in Innocence R and Hearts R
Never played them, but if they're anything like Graces, then the focus on turtling/spamming is really shitty.

>It seemed to interrupt whenever you DIDN'T spam.
It was based off of % or hit count depending on the boss. That's why said ToX encouraged developing your own combos and finding a suitable rhythm for bosses.
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>>101004380
>It seemed to interrupt whenever you DIDN'T spam.

Confirmed for never playing Xillia
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>>101004049
A sign of them caving in to foreign money.
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>>101004400
Tales of the World is really different from the other games, none of the other games have a quest system like that. It's basically just fanservice so you can see more of the characters you like in a different setting.
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>>101004552

More like Baba turning into a westaboo like his bretherrns, Suda, Kamiya and Kojima
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>>101004600
Huh. It seems like I picked the worst game to start with then. In about 5 minutes I'll be starting eternia though. Thanks for the info everyone who responded.
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Just found the PS2 memcard that has my Tales of Legendia save on it.

I think I left off a little after beating the first part, but the game never really tells you where you should go next.

The logs don't help, either
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>>101004657
Just a word of advice that eternia doesn't really pick up until 50% of the way through the game where the character development starts happening.

Also, the dub sucks, so brace yourself.
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>>101004758
Fuck you. The dub is charming.
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>>101004758
I'm grabbing the psp undub version
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>>101004440
Ah I see.

It better not disappoint. Hearts R and Innocence R are the only JRPGs I'm interested in and willing to buy for the Vita.

>>101004687
First part? So you're at the beginning of the game?
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The only thing good about Graces was Emeraude
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>>101004534
>Never played them, but if they're anything like Graces, then the focus on turtling/spamming is really shitty.
Nonono. You CANNOT spam in those games. Your damage output will drop like crazy, and if you do it enough, they'll just break out of the combo entirely.

Guard countering is when, during a combo of your own, an enemy will turn red and counterattack after taking a certain amount of damage. That's your cue to guard RIGHT before the attack hits. If you have absolutely perfect timing, you'll counterattack and continue your combo. The length of the enemy attack animations can vary significantly even for the same enemy, so you REALLY have to be watching to pull it off.

You later get skills that restore HP and TP when you pull it off properly.

>>101004547
Just played it a few minutes ago. I used a grand total of two Artes and they broke out of the combo.

>>101004758
>>101004807
DEMON LIGHTNING HAMMER!

I can't believe the guy who voiced Reid in that is the person who is Sly Cooper.
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>>101005007
I would beat her with my fists, tie her down, then hatefuck the hell out of Agria.

I'm not the only one, right?
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>>101005007

The way the handled Emeraude just makes me sad...

Such wasted potential.
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>>101004914
no, it was shortly after Shirley becomes a playable character, so it's the second part. The part where they find out that all the monsters have crazy healing abilities now
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>>101005082
I wish I was Bobo so I could see her dere side.
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>>101004807
>Charming

The guy who voiced Reid sounded like he didn't want to be at the recording studio.
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>>101005124
Truly.
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>>101005140
Oh I see what you mean.

I actually never did that.
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>>101005124
She should've been the final boss. Would've been so much more satisfying, especially since you only hear about what a bitch she was after she's already dead.
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>>101005246
She has always been dead.
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>>101005229
shit...I don't want to go looking at a walkthrough just for this
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>>101005156
Does Sly Cooper sound like he doesn't want to be at the recording studio? I don't think so.

Still the cast for Eternia was just randomly picked off the streets and I find the amateurity rather charming.
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>>101005362
I fail to see what Sly has to do with Reid since both were recorded at different points.

>Still the cast for Eternia was just randomly picked off the streets
You just reminded me of Chaos Wars.
pls stop
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>>101005124
>I am going to help you guys fix your loli, explain the origins of Lambda, and while my views on how he should be handled are different I will join you for the time being
>OH WAIT NOW IM EVIL AND HAVE A GOD COMPLEX
>OH NO I EXPLODED

And then they try to justify everything by making her a gigantic cunt for no reason in the F arc.
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>>101005514
They weren't randomly picked off the streets. They were family members of people that translated the game.

>>101005546
She was a cunt long before the events of the game (and the F arc's existence). In many ways, she was directly responsible for Lambda's transformation.
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>>101005124

>Emeraude will never sit on your face

Kill me now
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So wait, what's the better Tales of Destiny game? 1 or 2? Are any of them available in English?
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>>101005692
2 is definitely the best but its not available in English
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>>101005692
Tales of Destiny R is best. 2 was a bit dissapointing
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>>101005692
Tales of Destiny 2 is best. R was a bit disappointing
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Why is Jude such a faggot? He just doesn't sit well with me. He absolutely nothing and he earned the respected of the two most powerful people in the world. Of course he did some cool stuff sometimes but most of the time he was just a tag along. I couldn't see his drive. Alvin was right.
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>>101005692
2 is better than PS1 1, but R is the best.
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>>101005692
I never played Destiny 2.

But I did love Destiny 1 (PS2 version)
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>>101005546
She was shady as fuck right from the beginning. She insisted on calling Sophie 'Protos Heis' and referred to her as 'it', and saw nothing wrong with her existing solely to destroy Lambda. And she wasn't interested in solving the issue with Lamda any way but destroying him. Normally this might seem somewhat reasonable, except this is a Tales game so she was obviously wrong and probably a villain. And didn't they establish she was a cunt who lied to you before you fought Lamda in the original game?
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>>101005837
>Did absolutely nothing
>Tag along
Maybe you should play Jude's story instead of finishing the game with Milla's and passing judgement you faggot.
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>>101006002
>Lamda
Lambda. Normally I wouldn't correct it but I made the same mistake twice.
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>>101006096
The real reason to play Jude's story is to have more time with Best Xillia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UGnrHgyhc8
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>>101006002

Nah, she was trying to get rid of Lambda because Lambda was causing nova monsters to appear and fuck everything up on Fodra. Meanwhile doctor whats-his-fuck wants to teach lambda to be human, while the nova apocalypse is happening. Emeraude did nothing wrong, until out of left field her robot clone developed a god complex.
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>>101006096
I'd played Jude first and he did fucking shit.
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>>101006209
>mfw I posted that video in this same thread
Leia is such a good girl. Too bad she gets NTR'd by the Lord of Spirits.
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>>101005645
>>101006002
She was (in my opinion understandably) a bitch but she wasn't a devious super evil villian until the F arc flashbacks and her sudden 180 in the cuccoon.
They could have used her belief that Lambda had no place in the world and should be destroyed far better as reasoning for her to be an antagonist.
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>>101006315
But she doesn't win either in Xillia 2 from what I heard. In fact, no one does.
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>>101006315
He obviously meant Celsius.
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>>101006257
>Supported Milla since the beginning, no strings attached, when everyone had ulterior motives or didn't fully believe in her
>Almost single handedly responsible for healing her crippled legs and letting her continue her mission, the most important thing to her
>Stands up to Gaius' extreme ideology with his own compassion
>Fiercely protective of both humans and spirits in a world where it was either one or the other
>Inspired Milla to eventually want to live up to his ideal of her
>Inspired Milla to fight for both humans and spirits
>Shows his resolve by not backing down and beats the shit out of Gaius to stop his doomsday plan

You're full of shit.
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I wonder if Robo-Emeraude's tits felt real
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>>101006501
Would the advance people that built her real skimp out on that?
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>>101006475
I'm still completely ass pained over Jude not getting with Milla in the end. Fuck.
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>>101006598
I think it was beautiful in how bittersweet it was. I like to think that somewhere deep down, since the very beginning, Jude knew that Milla had a greater calling than a normal human life. The greatest thing he could do for her was work towards her dream of a coexistence on Reize Maxia and Elympios while she watched over both worlds.
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>>101006229
But this is a Tales game, so trying to sacrifice someone for the greater good is basically never portrayed as being okay. Conveniently, it's also never necessary. Her actions just caused more problems, Fodra was fucked anyway, and the party managed to resolve a situation that was even worse (thanks to her) without sacrificing anyone. And she still didn't care about Sophie and she lied to you. Even without the god complex, there was no way she wouldn't have been an antagonist.
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>>101006858
So you're saying she's only a villain because it's a Tales game and it had to work out like that.
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>>101006858
So how much is that Doctor guy at fault for not giving Emeraude the D so he could play with his autistic space-virus instead
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>>101006257
>Punches out God for his waifu

Yeah jack shit.
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>>101006475
Wow, you're practically the first person I've seen defend Jude. Most seem to dismiss him in Xillia 1 because of his strong infatuation with Milla.

I'm impressed.
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>>101007239

Yes. But foremost he is at fault for making a conduit for nova monsters.

>B-b-but he could become almost human!

And then a planets worth of people died. A pretty big planet to. At least 10 times the size of Ephinea.
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>>101007291
Was it ever explained why Milla had to take over for Maxwell? Why couldn't Maxwell just continue to run things? It was the ultimate blueball and I didn't even understand it.
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>>101007610
Because a new power with new ideals must run a new world.
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>>101007610

Maxwell got punk'd by Gaius, Muzet and the Lance of Kresnik.

Since Reize Maxia apparently runs off of Castlevania logic, there must always be a boss man, lest the world collapses.
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>>101007610
He was tired. It's time for him to rest and to get rid of the schism.
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>>101007769
Well yeah, but I thought the main party had convinced Maxwell that he was full of shit already? There wasn't any need to pass his powers on to Milla.

I mad.
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>>101006969
And because she never really tried to find another option, she was totally okay with killing an innocent kid because she didn't consider him a person and even without the god complex she probably would've insisted on trying to kill him again even though it hadn't worked the first time, his current behaviour was her fault and it would kill another innocent person in the process, who she also refused to consider a person. Which was ridiculous because the worst-case scenario to trying things the party's way would've just been that they had to do things her way anyway. Even in something that didn't condemn her for trying to sacrifice him the first time (and most stuff would've because she didn't even feel the least bit bad about it), if she'd insisted on killing Lambda without trying anything else, she'd've seemed like a stupid, stubborn bitch.
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>>101007852
>the schism
Oh right, that's what I missed. Kind of silly that he had to die for the schism to get removed, but whatever.
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>>101008303
He didn't have to. He's the creator. He could just dispel it.
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>>101008350
I'm pretty sure it was stated in game that the person who created the schism had to die for it to be dispelled. If not, there's literally no reason for him to off himself.
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>>101008528
Yeah in game they said he had to die or who ever made it could get rid of it. That's why Exodus was after his life since everyone knew he wouldn't get rid of it.
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>>101008663
Now him killing himself just sounds even more stupid. I hated how ToX's last act was so rushed.
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>>100999161
>Tales of Abyss
This is absolutely fucking right. I've played all the localized Tales games and Abyss was definitely my favorite. How could anyone not like Abyss?
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>>101009423
Because Luke is a faggot
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>>101009476
Luke wasn't a faggot. He was mentally 7 years old. He matured a lot through out the series.
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>>101009476
You are the faggot. Luke is the man.
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>>101009423
I didn't like it despite being the first Free-run Tales game I've played.
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>>101009423
Abyss was ok, but Vesperia literally did everything better in the same formula. Out of the first big three, I'd say
Vesperia > Abyss > ToS
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>>101009511
>>101009672
He was fucking Guy's ass everyday with master Van. Luke is a faggot.
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>>101009728
Shut the fuck up Asch. I know you still butthurt. Bring your Nashitlia with you to the grave please.
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So the real question is what is the best Tales game? All I see in this thread is everyone calling every Tales game shit.
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>>101009851
The one you enjoy the most.
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>>101009851
Hearts R and Symphonia are my favorites.
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>>101009851
I like Symphonia and Hearts.
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>>101009851
Vesperia is the funnest.
Symphonia has the best story.
Hearts R for having the most mechanically sound battle system.
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Finally.



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