Kingdom thread? Shrapnel edition. Will Mouten be alright? What is best general plotting? Why did Mougou's armor break?
In the end, Karin ensured Kanmei's death. If she didn't send her brother... Kanmei would probably lose anyway, but maybe he wouldn't die.
I'm not sure about that..Moubou had just broken Kanmei's mace anyway, he still would have crushed him regardless of the rage he felt for his son's wound. Also, as Karin herself stated, Kanmei's death definitely wouldn't be in her best interests.
These chapters were guro as shit, yo.
Sure she didn't want that, but in a way, Kanmei hitting Mouten made Kanmei's chance of living go from 1% to 0%.
So, what happens in that side of the field from now on?
Mougou goes berserk and soloes Chu's army?
Both sides retreat for a while?
Moubou is in pretty bad shape now, arm broken and shit, is Karin best girl going to wreck him?
>Mougou going berserk
I'd sure enjoy that
So..will Yoku fuck Karin?
>tfw both these guys still wouldn't have a fucking chance against current Tiger-killer Houken or Kyoukai and went balls out just to kill each other
>tfw Moubu mistakenly believes he has reached the top of the summit before news of Houken appearing gives him a cringe shock face
>tfw Kanmei didn't lose because of cutting down Mouten, or his mace's cheaper quality steel, but because he didn't make enough ANGRY FACES compared to Moubu
>tfw true tactician Moubu only let himself get his ass beat on because he needed to build up ANGRY FACES Musou
>tfw true tactician Moubu only let himself get his ass beat on because he needed to build up ANGRY FACES Musou
you should reread those pages.
such meta awareness for Moubou-sama
I honestly doubt Kyoukai would be able to cut down either of them...more surprising to me is Moubou having apparently forgotten about his own encounter with Houken, and considering Kanmei his strongest opponent yet
>tfw Kanmei still tried to bravely fight with boredface + death flags and barely lost
It's fucking bred down to his bones, he doesn't even realize it himself. He must get it from his dad, look at how meta Mougou is.
>knows his own worth is shit
>be nice and recruit a pair of hidden aces
>be modest and win over MC
>defeat 291 point Renpa
>has trust of every general from MUH ANGRY CHOUTOU to TSUN TSUN KANKI despite the latter already knowing how shit he is
It's clear the Mou line is genre savvy as fuck.
For those few of you who were still hopeful, I'm afraid Mouten can no longer be considered best girl.
Someone thought Mouten was a grill?
You never know.
Moubu is stronger than Ouki and Ouki would have defeated Houken twice, if not for a certain archer.
His boy pussy is probably broken from internal damage.
Have you seen Social Kingdom?
>For those few of you who were still hopeful, I'm afraid Mouten can no longer be considered best girl.
Why not? Mouten isn't dead yet.
Mouten still is best girl.
Houken wasn't actually at over 100 when he fought Ouki. It's pretty clear given how Houken contradicts himself through that arc and even Riboku points it out. And let's not even point out the injuries Kyoukai and Shin gave him.
>tfw Mougou would have been a betamax harem MC if they just genderbent Ousen and Kanki
In terms of duel, Houken and Moubu are probably on about the same level.
But right now, they are the two top duelists in the manga.
I'll never look at him the same way from now on. Losing an arm might have even been a clever scheme on his part, in order to give himself another layer of plot armor
I don't think so man, Moubu is the one with a lot more skills as a general. Houken's only value is his combat strength, shouldn't that be his forte? Why would he be >max stat otherwise? The man doesn't even have leadership stats because MUH PATH SEEKING rivals Thorfinn's MUH PEACE SEEKING levels of naivety.
Don't tell me he's ACTUALLY GOING TO LEAD THE FUCKING COALITION AS HISTORY DICTATES? No don't spoil me raw fags I'm not seriously asking.
I expect him to be hidden under Riboku's table or some shit
You can even tell he's not an NTR-ing evil geezer because he's not fat.
>the signs are all there
>tfw Shunshinkun's reaction when Houken pops out from under the table.
>tfw he's probably so skilled the table doesn't break
>tfw the table balances perfectly on his head while Riboku explains "The Real Plan"
>tfw Houken maintains his stoic face as manservants climb a ladder to grab the tea kettle from the table on his head
>the injuries Kyoukai and Shin gave him.
Is Mouten going to survive or not. Someone fucking tell me.
10/10 would read
>tfw Houken-sama renamed Table-kun
This manga is set over 2,000 years in the past.
Everyone died already, anon.
This is just ridiculous.
If you read your history, you'd know that he eventually is forced to commit suicide by the king.
So it's safe to say he lives past this day at least.
>tfw Karin is renamed Nina
>tfw Karin spars with Table-kun while imagining Yotanwa Onee-sama getting all hot and bothered
>tfw Houken remains stoic faced not at all curious to Karin's ahegao face.
Wow, what a cunt king.
Mouten becomes a more notable general than Shin historically.
Learn to spoiler faggot.
Is it true the king was a complete asshole?
If you look for Mou Ten's name (Meng Tian), you will see this.
Is that proof that Mou Ten is a girl?
I can't spoiler history can I?
That's what happens in a succession crisis when the horse you are backing loses.
If it makes you feel better, the cunt successor dies and Qin is replaced by Han
I thought Ri Shi and the eunuch force Mouten to die. Ei Sei himself doesn't pull much faggotry onto his subjects after Ryofui dies, he only burns books and scholars.
By the time he commits seppuku Qinshihuang is already dead and buried.
Here's a spoiler: Qin wins and burns a whole lot of books
that's a nice sexy doll you've got there
Good now delete your unspoilered post.
For those who haven't read it? Yes you can faggot. Are you really going to argue because you don't wanna admit being wrong over fucking common courtesy?
Wow, aren't you buttmad.
How about this,
Kyoukai becomes a general, Shin becomes a general.
King's little brother rebels against him, defecting to Zhao.
Shin leads an army of 200,000 against Chu, and is wiped out.
Turns out Shouheikun was a traitor and backstabs.
Can't change history can I?
It is a different King.
The problem is that an eunuch got too much power. Eunuchs often cause dynasties to collapse.
Thanks, now I don't have to read this shitty manga.
No, because I already knew all that. You're still a faggot, and now blatantly spoiling with your shitposting instead of manning up.
Thanks for confirming to everyone how big of a loser you are.
>Not knowing history
7 warring states and RoTK are easily some of the most identifiable periods of time in China history.
Go read some non-historical mango if you're so pissed about history.
>A Han aristocrat named Zhang Liang swore revenge on the Qin emperor. He sold all his valuables and in 218 BC, he hired a strongman assassin and built him a heavy metal cone weighing 120 jin (roughly 160 lb or 97 kg). The two men hid among the bushes along the emperor's route over a mountain. At a signal, the muscular assassin hurled the cone at the first carriage and shattered it. However, the emperor was actually in the second carriage, as he was traveling with two identical carriages for this very reason. Thus the attempt failed.
I hope this makes it into the manga.
I think that's completely true. I am not Chinese though.
Wasn't SHiN defeated because of someone in Qin?
>Expects everyone to only read/watch Kingdom because they already know history
How elitistvirgin are you niggers?
>this very reason.
Because he was wary of assassination, or because of that actual method of assassination?
The assasination attempts are easily some of the most fun about Qinshihuang.
This definitely should be put in
>Not knowing history
>Being this fucking pleb
That's probably not a true story. Unless they used some tools, even if the assassin was as strong as Mariusz Pudzianowski, that would be a bad idea.
I don't think this will play out that way. In the world of Kingdom, 97kg is nothing. Renpa fucking casually shattered a boulder twice the size of him and his horse combined just by making MUH ANGRY FACE.
>elitist faggot continues being elitist faggot
>refuses to come back to reality
>Being this fucking chuuni
Get laid faggot, and not by a whale.
Why didn't Renpa just lead the center army anyway? No way he would lose then.
Uh, yeah, in Kingdom that could happen. In real life, I can't see anyone being able to do that.
>Knowing a little bit of history
Wow this faggot. Do you cry as much whenever someone knows more general knowledge than you?
>implying people who resort to trolling and shit posting when called out wouldn't resort to 3DPD non-sense
Learn some history before coming back. That's part of the fun about reading historical mango, it's a jumping off point for you to read more history.
You get how that statement is contradictory, right?
It's hilarious that you class Kingdom has 'historical' anyway though.
>Sees no wrong despite rules
>Expects others to know
Damn, imagine this fucking trying to watch 300/Troy/etc with friends.
>Implying he has friends with this attitude of his
I wasn't the one spoiling shit but the stuff he is saying is pretty much common knowledge if you know ABIT of the 7 warring states.
How the fuck could you spoiler Troy and 300?
samefag please go
This is what's wrong with /a/ nowadays, normal people trying to force their way in and acting like they own the place.
samefag I didn't realize this was Baidu. Did I turn on the chink filter or something?
You seem upset
>not having friends to discuss Chinese history with
>taking pride in being an armchair historian
>resorting to samefaggotry just to make yourself look more in the right
>finally admits foreveralone.jpg
>tries to spin it like there's any worth to being such a pathetic chuuni
Gotta give you props. Japs would have just jumped off a building or bridge by now. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Given his attitude it can't be helped.
The irony of this entire derailment stems from you pointing out he spoiled, when he actually did not spoil because he was wrong about it the first time.
So he fails even as an armchair historian. But Google quickly fixes that!
Do you think you could become a Great General of the Heavens /a/
What would happen to you in Kingdom
>What would happen to you in Kingdom
Be one of the nameless soldiers the generals casually chop through.
>Do you think you could become a Great General of the Heavens /a/
>What would happen to you in Kingdom
I'd die horribly.
Would you even make it that far?
Of course I can, I can even roll my eyes back to show the whites while I do MUH ANGRY FACE. And I'll even hide my capability to do so by going squint-eyed until I have to reveal my power level.
All I need to do now is practice how long I can stare all wide eyed like Ousen. Gotta at least last an entire page before I go off panel.
>tfw cannot keep composure riding those fucking smiling horses
God damnit I died.
>What would happen to you in Kingdom
Be a manly swordsman and cut through any enemy in front of me in a heroic charge then get hit in the head with an arrow.
Archers are cheap motherfuckers.
Get preggers by the king and live comfortably as part of the royal harem.
Seems the safest way to live.
You're not pretty enough like Mouten, sorry.
But you're a boy.
Learn how to use the crossbow, be on Karin's army.
Get the prize for defeating enemy generals.
>implying you wouldn't be a peasant dying in a construction project complaining that your feet hurt
Moubu has truly learned much from Ouki.
I don't know man, those Kingdom crossbows don't seem all that powerful.
>Qin's most famous crossbow unit is wiped out by naked people
>Ousen's crossbow unit is incapable of catching Ordo when all they need to do is shoot the horses
It's like just holding the fucking thing drops your INT 50 points.
When does Qin's mountain people come down and rape shit?
Historical spoilers is one of the dangers(i know the general storyline and which state got conquered in what order and about Ousen or how Shin will fuck up the Chu invasion, but would rather avoid the finer details), but also spoilers from the raws.
>have long discussions on an internet forum about kingdom and how the alliance could be beaten back
>later realize, that everyone who argued with me had alread read the raws and knew everything
Why do the generals even have troops in this series?
To open the path to the enemy general for epic duels.
So that someone is there to witness all the cool things the generals do.
You will never be raped by the mountain people.
Mainland Chinese people wipe their asses and plug the toilet paper in the paper towel box during flights. Does this mean you should do the same or simply not fucking go take a piss or something on a 16 hour flight to avoid the stench and grossness?
Getting spoiled by reading spoilers is one thing. Getting spoiled because people don't have common courtesy just shows how nigger the person is.
That's like reading a mango about the American Revolutionary War, and not knowing that Benedict Arnold defects.
Some things are just common knowledge.
Or is Benedict Arnold defecting news to you?
I'm not him. Who is Benedict Arnold?
A true Brit.
Traitor during the revolutionary war in America. I don't remember exactly what he did though.
The problem is what makes it spoiler and what not.
For example, the fact that Qin wins in the end and unites china is not something that should be hidden, because its common knowledge.
It would probably the same for n eastern reader, if the story would be about Alexander or Caesar or Troy.
Should the fact, that Troy gets burned in the end, be behind spoilers? About the trojan horse? About Hector getting killed by Achilles?
I think the first two not, the third yes because its a spoiler, but different people will see it in different ways.
tl;dr: Yes, it may suck to get spoilered by historical facts, but no sense in getting mad about it.
If spoilers bother you so much go shout at the Wan Piss spoiler threads.
Who doesn't know Achilles kills Hector?
I'm the anon from here
and that perfectly illustrates my point, because I can guarantee you, that 99,999999% of the people outside the US and Britain have never even heard about that name, let alone if he defects or not.
Oops, I spoiled WW2 movies for you. Silly me.
Oh for shit's sake, the manga is never going to make it that far.
Is Moubu's right eye going to be OK? Or he will be permanently like Guts
Chinese history is underrated.
That said, Asian rivalries are kind of funny.
Japan invaded Korea three times (actually two, if you consider the Hideyoshi campaigns as one) and they are arch enemies.
And European country that went to war with the other one three times would probably be considered a historical ally. How many times the French and the English went to war in different sides?
And they only wear armor to look cool.
Of the top of my head:
Invasion against King John, the 100 Years War, American Revolution, Napoleonic Wars, Henry VIII allied with Charles V
Eyepatch Moubu would be pretty badass
No one's mad. Just pointing out how you are all ill-mannered and uncultured despite ironically taking an interest in history.
All you had to do was admit you are lazy or don't give a fuck. Hell you could just ignore my post and move on. Instead you prove how much you value your neck beard pride by retaliating, because there's nothing restraining you from being childish.
Chink killing other chink vol 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
With the occasional mongol and manchus.
Same for the rest of the world, your point?
Yurops killing other yurops with the occasional muslim and slav.
Hello comrade, how much the party pay to shill here?
Yotanwa > both those scrubs'
who is the strongest?
Speak louder I can't hear you.
I'm not that well versed in the history of the 7 warring kingdoms but does anyone know about the glaive Ouki gave to Shin, like will Shin use it soon or will he just let it sit.
He uses it in chapter 001
I was getting serious Hulk vibes in the latest chapters
Also Moubu seems to have gotten bigger in general
Who has the ANGRIEST FACE in Kingdom?
My vote goes to Rokuomi
A special mention should go to Duke Hyou because his default/happy face is already angrier than most soldiers' angry faces.
In either case, pic related will get last place.
I love this guy, he's just so angry all the time. I hope he survives the war since Ouki's former army commanders seem to be dropping like flies. (Except for Tou of course)
To all historyfags:
Kanki's my favorite general, is his character portrayed properly?
So, moubu, ousen, and tou basically already won.
there is still shin + the duke vs spiderman and kanki+mougu vs wei.
Spoiler: Not a whole lot of facts, but he serves under Ousen in the invasion of Zhao. He's eventually defeated by Riboku and forced to flee. There's speculation that he fled to Yan after his defeat to avoid being punished, not much about him after that.
>implying harem MC needs to use angry face when his waifus Ousen and Kanki will do it for him.
Karin really got screwed over. Incompetent subordinates, incompetent superiors.
The duke is kill which is a shame because I liked him for some reason.
Ouki > Houken > Tou > Yotanwa > Riboku > Renpa > Moubu > Kanmei > Duke Hyou > Kyoukai > Ousen > Kanki > Mougu
Who doesn't like the Lion King? Always so happy when he's on a murder spree.
I'm afraid to even ask what the fuck this order is about. Strength, Leadership, Knowledge, Overall, Service Record, MUH ANGRY FACE, I just don't get it.
And don't gimme that shit about big lips, because Kyoukai definitely ranks last in that.
To be fair, all the girls in Kingdom seem ridiculously competent for their position besides Kaine, and she's still capable of fighting on par with Mouten.
She's going to die isn't she?
It's Houken who kills him, isn't it?
Spoiler: There's always the old classic theory of Kanki / Huan Yi being Fan Wuji, but I think in a Kingdom twist, Kanki would actually fake himself as Jing Ke and aims to kill Ei Sei through his 'supposed' death. It fits him perfectly and he's the master of infiltration.
It's hard to connect these names to the characters when I'm not actually looking at the material, dang samey Japanifications of Chinese words.
Bookmark the spread sheet.
>tfw high 90s Ten still gets outplayed by traitor Shouheikun + Shunshinkun + Renpa + Karin because Shin is a fucking moron and thinks 200k is totally enough to conquer a state more than twice as big as Qin while Ousen sits back with his keikaku face waiting for Shin to soften up the enemy by taking out Renpa because he's MC.
Well if you were a girl you would have to super competent to get anyone to respect you for your abilities.
Kou Rigen didn't even need to hold a crossbow to drop 50 INT. Just standing next to those holding them made him retarded.
People respect Kaine, and she's not even strong enough to protect Riboku from enemies he needs protecting against.
Well then again, most of Zhao are lil bitches.
>tfw fatty was genuinely one of Zhao's strongest warriors.
Being Zhao after Hakuki is suffering.
>Ousen had absolute confidence in his shield guards due to Chu metallurgy
>Kanmei's mace breaks first despite Moubu's mace being worn out more from charging in
Either Ousen has a fucking warranty on his shit or Kanmei sucks dick at shopping and goes to best buy.
>tfw you can't blame it on being Made in China
Karin just got promoted to the head of the Chu expedition, I'd say that's doing pretty well for herself.
Who was the 3rd great general of Zhao again? Did he/she ever get introduced?
To be fair, Moubu's mace wasn't exactly being stressed all that much if thin metal and flesh/bone was all it was going through before meeting Kanmei's mace. It may as well have been going in fresh- as fresh as a clump of solid iron can be.
>Send your brother to interfere on Kanmei's fight
>Mouten goes to stop your brother
>Your brother throws Mouten against Kanmei
>Kanmei hits Mouten
>Moubu gets enraged and beats Kanmei
>Now Karin is the commander of Chu
>Just as Keikaku*
*Keikaku means plan
I know I was just playing. You can even tell which one was gonna win when Kanmei unveiled his dinky mace which was like only 2/3rd the size of Moubu's.
Old 3 great heavens or new?
I have no idea about the new, nor do I remember if we ever introduced anyone other than Renpa for the old, but Rinshoujo or what's his face historically was just a minister, not a general but they are indeed pretty much 'sworn brothers'. Go look it up on wiki on Renpa's entry his Chinese name is Lian Po.
I guess the brother has a good cop-out excuse then.
"Bad News: I didn't kill Moubu, Good News: You got a promotion"
Riboku isn't always right. Just look at this fiasco of a coalition.
When is Ousen saving Qin?
He already did
He was right about Houken though. Even Ouki implied that Houken regained his strength, but simply was too late.
Kyoukai says the exact same thing as Riboku, just without the knowledge of Houken personally. I think in this particular case, Riboku is clearly right.
Unless you're claiming the #1 priestess doesn't know how god dancing works?
There needs to be Social Kingdom Project : The Sequel.
Or it's own fucking spin off. Wouldn't even have to pay for a mangaka. It's all volunteer work anyways!