The Melancholy of Kamijou Touma: Endless suffering edition.
There is no way he will ever smile again.
why are you crying? :[
Don't cry, stranger.
>She used an invisible power to split that impudent boy’s top half from the bottom half.
Who is better, Tou or Ma?
Suffering of Toumafags is always enjoyable.
Why are you starting a new thread when we have nothing new to talk about yet?
At least wait until more parts are translated.
Haha, I can't believe Touma actually did his speech bit by bit after being repeatedly killed like nothing was happening. Why is he so based?
Why on Earth it makes him based and awesome?
It's rather funny and absurdly.
Accel's manga spoilers when?
Bitch please, the TouMAN is now stronger than ever.
Fighting against the world, for the gal who murdered him a few million times, and broke his heart?
It's pretty much the definition of based, living life doing what you want and how you want while not caring what other people think. Touma is gonna give his speech and no amount of bisecting, skull smashing, body crushing, and other various methods of killing him is gonna make him stop.
The reason Othinus is so lewd is she can't be seduced by Touma if she's seduces him first.
Atsushi Abe would nail this.
Too bad JC is UTTER SHIT. (aside from Golden Time, Tada Banri is a TouMAN follower)
>In fact, doing it that way would be a lot more like you /return. It’s much more like you than putting on a fake smile because you’re afraid of angering them and ultimately wearing yourself down on the inside /return.”
But that's objectively wrong, Will-chan. Like that one time that Touma lost his memories and he put on a fake smile and lied to everyone about it, And doing so did wear him out.
Well he did come clean, so maybe he learned his lesson.
only because he was forced to do so.
It's gonna be so satisfying to have Touma punching people again.
Why is Worst so cute? I want her to step on me.
>Still caring for inferior Misakas
And only to few people who know it.
Who will be the first he punches? Ollerus?
>YOU'RE *kshhh* NOT *kshhh* LIVING *kshhh* YOUR LIFE *kshhh* CORRECTLY!
>Ollerus you may think it be like it is, but it ain't.
I hope he does get punched.
Would Touma shit talk Ollerus for being a failure? What about Othinus? Would anybody be around to make fun of him?
INDEX A USELESS SHIT
After the speech Will made, Misaka and Index will probably side with him (Misaka doesn't even know what's going on really, but Index might struggle a little). Fiamma too, since he knows pretty damn well the position Othinus is.
So, I'd say it will be Ollerus, Lessar and Birdway, then people coming to the island.
What's with all the Ollerus hate? He's still one of the strongest magicians alive
It's fun to make fun of him for being a failure
No he turned into a fairy
...you mean Othinus?
Chinese railgun 67 scans for people who weren't in the archive:
No idea what is going on, but what Mikoto is creating seems much more dangerous than Accelerators atmosphere plasma.
i now have a choking fetish.
He'll probably fail at becoming a fairy since he failed at becoming a god in the first place.
The magazine isn't even out yet in Japan.
I'm confused. Was he actually starting again from the start of chapter 5 every time he died or was he just wondering if he was?
So what the fuck is with Accel's manga? Are some people lazy as fuck to scan at least spoilers?!
No one cares about Accelerator anymore
He doesn't know for sure, apparently he only remembers little of the previous worlds every time and he rationalizes it by seeing everything as one linear event, he doesn't know it himself probably, so whatever time has actually passed, he doesn't experience it as years or months or millenia whatever it is, essentially keeping himself sane by only remembering the things where he survives instead of his failures.
So Mitori wants to kill Mikoto so she would "go to that world and apologize to 'her' (Dolly, I presume)" While destroying AC in the process.
I doubt he was. There's no reason for Othinus to be doing the same thing over and over right from the very beginning of the whole "I will break you by twisting the world" sham.
We spirit bomb now.
I don't give a single fuck about you shitheaded faggot not caring about Accelerator anymore, shut up and realize your foolishness. But more than some people do care about manga including me. It's a fact. Also there are a few translators that can translate it. No one cares about your shitty opinion.
Why would Mikoto have to apologize to Dolly, they don't even know each other.
What we heard from spoilers was that Mitori was using Mikoto to kill one person (unknown) in the process at least blowing away the whole of AC. Seeing as Mitori was targetting the windowless building, we can only assume that this person was Aleister Crowley.
Do you think I'm doing it because I'm angry?
You lazyass people need to be told off or punched to start doing anything
The Chinese scans has Mitori saying
"If Mikoto turns into Level 6 the city could be destroyed easily,
It's only you that I want to see being crushed with my own eyes.
Go to that world and apologize to 'her'."
Sure the object is ambiguous, but my guess is that Mitori faults Mikoto for Dolly's fate the way Accelerator blames her for giving her DNA.
Nah we just get more lazy when we are pushed to do something.
What a useless bitch.
Chinese websites are shitty and slow.
here is downloadable version of the Chinese scans
>Nut is an Egyptian sky goddess who leans over her husband/brother, Geb, the Earth God. She is usually depicted as a naked woman who is covered with stars. She represents the All, pure potentiality both as it flowers into the physical universe and as it resides beyond embodiment.
>1. Had! The manifestation of Nuit.
>2. The unveiling of the company of heaven.
>3. Every man and every woman is a star.
Oh right, Accelerator is still in his edgy faggot stage
No, it's you in your edgy faggot style. Fuck off.
>She was seen as a star-covered nude woman arching over the earth, or as a cow.
>or as a cow.
Cowtits growth spurt confirmed.
Since Kiyama as the administrator of the Level Upper network could use the power of the espers connected to her by running off their brains, does that mean the will of the Misaka network could use vector manipulation running off Accelerator?
Explain to me why being Touma is suffering.
All of his friends are dead
Waiting for more
He's being killed over a million times.
Is it Hamazura?
I don't think that "you" is referring to Mikoto here.
Remember that Mitori tried to get Mikoto to destroy the windowless building earlier.
My guess is Crowley being responsible for the death of someone close to Mitori.
Why would Mitori care about Dolly? She doesn't even know her.
Because Mitori was Mi-chan, duh
She got arrested for trying to bust her out
I'm thinking that she is Dolly's friend Mi-chan
Can't run off a brain that doesn't work. If anything it would be the opposite since Accel is basically using the network as his own Level Upper.
He can tentacle rape people using vectors? how?
I think its supposed to be wind.
This version of Mikoto would wreck Accelerator in seconds.
Wind tentacles, wooooooo
It's still unknown.
He may reflect it cause it's somewhat near nuclear bomb. Or at least looks like it.
If it's wind, not a problem either.
He reflected Archangel Gabriel's shit who sure is stronger.
Wow, it's fucking nothing. They really want to prolong this shit, don't they?
For accelerator, what matters more is the amount of computational power required to reflect it, because he does have a limit at how much computational power he has. And that attack does not look very simple, compared to what happens in a nuclear blast which is mostly instantaneous release of energy and radiation causing everything around it to either burn or expand through heat. Mikoto's attack seems to be warping the space around it even.
Also to reflect Archangel Gabriel he needed to go Level 5+ too.
Kuroko literally can't be any more boring
Even if she is bending space, Accel can reflect teleporters so it shouldn't be a problem
And he fought Gabriel without his wings, he used his wind wings in that fight
She's probably generating dark matter (or something similar) by now too.
This is why edgeccelerator doesn't have a harem
>Starts reading NT9
>reached version alpha
I.. I don't think I can continue any longer with all these sufferings ;_;
But Touma punches bitches to the face and still gets a harem.
Man, he just tied a useless girl up so she wouldn't bring problems.
Omega will kill you.
He punches them to correct their life. Accelerator does it just because.
And Will-chan will collect the pieces and pat your head.
This is close to a masterpiece, read it.
Why is Willsaka such an asshole to Accelerator but kind to the TouMAN?
oh gee, why do you think?
Because she will never forgive him for the deaths he caused and doesn't give a shit about his regrets.
>you will never smell a scratch-n-sniff Othinus doujin
Accelerator has Last Order to cheer him up, while he killed half of the sisters.
Touma has fucking headcrab though he saved the rest.
It's exactly the reason why I won't read it.
I used to think like that but then I realized it
Accel needed someone to be harsh to him, he was about to do something really stupid and needed someone to bring him back to reality
Touma on the other hand was so depresed he was about to kill himself, he needed someone to cheer him up
Will-tan is really a mature character that knows how to act depending on the situation
You didn't even see anything yet.
We can judge only when this chapter gets translated so we have an understanding why he tied up the girl.
Was "controlling a teenage boy by throwing bitches at them" their intention with Accelerator, or was that a side effect?
The prev chapter said enough about him. I can sit with spoilers till they pass the point he's not edgy anymore.
I don't think that sacrificing himself out of guilt and in order to expose the dark secrets of AC/investigating Aleister's dark plans was a stupid thing. Dude just doesn't appreciate his life.
Not entirely sure himself, but he is aware this battle has already ended and tries to suppress everything else as he starts at the black world to make it a linear continuation in his head. Only remembering the important bits. It's why, if that was the only way to talk while trying to get to her, it's based.
It is stupid because he already did it once, and succeeded, he should be enjoying the normal life he won, no looking for excuses to keep fighting
>Dude just doesn't appreciate his life.
...but that's a stupid thing.
What do you find so unpleasing about his behaviour in the previous chapter? He acted a bit cocky/crazy and well shit but it was relevant for the situation. I mean, the faggot who wanted to attack him was pretty scared. Maybe it was exactly the thing that made him run off and therefore save his ass.
>he acted a bit cocky/crazy and well shit
Relevant, but I don't have to like it. Nothing personal here, just his overall character doesn't jive with me.
He still blames himself hard for everything and doesn't think he deserves such a nice life. He still thinks his life doesn't have value cause he is disgusted with himself. He wanted to bring some kind of good doing that. But well, his emotions took over him again. The ones who want him to live on would say it was stupid, others would say it was ok.
oh wow even Last Order looks like shit. Why the fuck is this guy chosen again? Kamachi needed to save money?
He acts like that not because it's a part of his character and he is a psycho. He scares his opponents acting like that. Well, he changes his behaviour later starting to rely more on his battle skills.
Doesn't Dengeki or the particular Daioh magazine promote new artists?
While I think it's because of both, it doesn't matter. I don't have to come to terms with it even when there's a different spin on why he does it. Never been a fan of that.
It's only the characters who look like shit, really.
The rest of his art isn't that bad.
Just finished reading all of the translated chapter of NT9. So basically almost all of this volume is about torturing touma both mentally (The shifting and fluctuating world ver alpha, beta, and omega) and physically (killed billion times again othinus). Regarding chapter 7, i really forget that he was only a 16 years old normal high school boy before reading this. If it was me i'm sure that i will give up alpha world. The suffering is too much.
This gonna be another Index manga. Hopefully we're gonna get an Innocentius here too.
Well Touma's life has been suffering since as long as he can remember, so he's sorta use to it. The scale is just on another level.
Don't fool yourself, you would have given up in the empty world
Let's hope he improves like Kogino in his character art.
On best case scenario, how soon would we get Index III?
JC announces it at April at that Dengeki Bunko thing for an September broadcast?
I'm pretty sure almost everyone here would've given up back in volume 1.
I like Accels crazy faces, but everything else is either meh or shit. Hopefully it gets better over time.
That is a good chance to be there since they announce multiple anime. But also being announced alongside the NT10 book for anniversary purposes is another chance in May or April depending on its release. Another is Shounen Gangan.
Of course anyone will give up at the empty world. What i mean is on the scale of alpha to omega only. If othinus bring you to this world one by one starting from alpha. how far can you go and defy all of this world?
As good as this novel is, I can't help but notice some people getting really obnoxious because of that.
Asuming I have touma's power to survive against Stiyl and Index, I think I could last until that girl melted in front of me in volume two
April 10th will be the 10 year anniversary of Index. I'd assume they would choose then to announce it.
>10 years already
It sure has been a wild ride. how long until kamachi.exe terminates it?
1/10, at least you tried.
This is the most likely place, yes.
We got another 10-12 novels to go until Touma can finally RIP in peace.
Make that 22. We were only 1/3 of the way through when OT ended. Meaning one more title switch coming.
Only odourfags, but it isn't that bad.
You are one of them, yeah.
Othinus's scent is deprecated, it's all about her heavenly voice as she degrades you now.
Is there any possibility, any possibility at all, that a studio other than JC Staff would handle Index III?
No. I don't think it would make much of a difference either.
In that case, yeah if after 5 minutes in that world no one kills me I would probably kill myself
It'll probably pass once the volume is over, just be patient.
If you're talking about the recent spike of love for the main heroines, I see it.
But exaggerations aside, they are pretty damn good too, though people always will try to praise them even more by bashing the old characters and shit. Just don't take it seriously, the hype will die down and more objective opinions will come in.
main heroines of this novel*
One of what? People that like things you don't?
Fuck off, go be an autist elsewhere.
Go to /v/ or /jp/, there you will be with your kind.
If you had reading comprehension that isn't shit, you'd know that I like this novel.
>not autistic as shit
Or opinions that aren't biased and built up on extreme hype. Same shit.
Assuming it did happen though, which studio would you guys want for the job?
How about you faggots shut up and talk about the best girl in this series?
Ufotable/Sunrise though I think Shaft would be perfect for adapting NT9.
You're right, we really need to talk more about Willsaka.
Saru Lock, pls go and stay go
It's not the same thing. "Objective opinions" is like saying "factual opinions", as in it doesn't even make sense to say such a thing. I get what you were trying to say, but the word "objective" should very VERY rarely be used, despite what /a/ wants you to believe. Something that would be objective and irrefutable would be like "Kamachi writes the Index LNs" where as saying "____ is best grill" is completely subjective.
Can't we just agree that every Raildex is best Raildex?
Or Disappearance Kyoani.
NO, MY TASTE > YOUR TASTE TURBO NERD
Wouldn't that make it 34 then?
NT's halfway point will probably be NT11, and if it's like OT there will be 22 in total, plus the 22 novels for the final testament. If we assume that we get about 3-4 novels per year, we have about 8 years at least of Kamachi's wild ride still to go. Not only that, but we still have numerous side stories, the Railgun and Accelerator manga, and whatever else Kamachi might have in store for us in the future.
Even if the main Index series ends he will probably still want to write some stories in the universe since this is Kamachi we are talking about. This series is going to be going on for quite some time.
Fuck my math, is all I have to say.
I guess I should've said neutral rather than objective, but my point still stands.
I've forgotten how good looking Index was. I blame the shitty nun outfit. She needs to show her hair and curves.
I don't think Ufotable did a particularly good job with there work. But maybe Sunrise could work. Shaft, no thanks. I feel nothing from what they do and would be terrible for it.
>Touma is probably better at math than me or you
I don't know why, but this kind of angers me.
G-Goddamn, man ;_;
Does Touma have a Yandere yet in his harem?
Wasn't he also tutored by Biri Biri or something? damn...
Index a shit.
To be fair, Touma's math is bullshit AC math.
Given what he's shown he'd be in the top percentile outside of AC.
Yeah. Despite being two years below him, she pretty much can be his teacher.
Othinus copied the fairy spell after ollerus used it and used it on him.
Thinking about it now; Touma would be an awesome tutor.
Computational power doesn't matter to Auto-reflect. It's just one computation.
>He reflected Archangel Gabriel's
>Also to reflect Archangel Gabriel
"Strength" is never an issue. Please learn how Auto-reflect, AIM and Telesma work.
Eh, the problem with that would be that as soon as the yandere tries to assault someone in his harem would be the fact that the persons she'd try to attack would be much stronger than her.
>You're not doing your homework correctly!
The Sisters aren't directly connected to Accelerator's brain. They are just an external calculating terminal.
Please stop using the code if you don't even know how it's supposed to be used.
Angel Hyouka is OK though.
Dem rainbow eyes get me every time.
>And He said it bothers Him.
What if Aiwass is the yandere?
What if Aiwass is Will-chan?
It was going to be a stupid thing, since the Kiharas were fully anticipating him going on a rampage again.
Wait did he get NTRd by that bitch?
Fall would be October, not September.
He would be a pretty good math tutor.
It was Ollerus who got NTRd.
How can NTR exist in Touma's case when he literally friend-zones every girl (& Accelerator) from the start?
>you will never see Accel helping LO with her homework
I wonder how they will react when Touma escapes to Othinus.
Most sure they will get angry and shit.
What happened her finger
Whoa that's long.
Fuck, can't unsee.
Othinus is the best girl.
>Acqua 4: 1-6.
That picture has a severe lack of js06.
NTR is implying he was with anyone.
>Then His head was bit by the Index and TouMAN said unto her, Fukou da.
They'll just think he added a girl to his harem in record time and promise to bite/zap him later.
They may be angry and tried to reason with him, but in the end i think they will follow and protect touma and othinus. Basically all of the world already in war with gremlin right? Any idea who will join touma in this reckless challenge other than kanzaki's group who already made the oath to help him no matter what happened?
I think Touma would be joyful to take their attacks head on for the first time.
Hoping for some Dead Bersi & Maria style walking away with just Will-chan and Othinus by his side.
Othinus taught him to be a M.
So as someone who doesn't read the LNs but used to:
What the hell is going on? The last thing I remember Touma went down with a satellite of some sort and was never heard from again.
After countless kill by othinus ithink not even a barrage of railgun would be able hurt touma now. He basically got "trained" by othinus in that world right, both mentally and physically. Okay maybe the physical one wouldn't be able to be carried to the original world, but his insight must be upgraded hundred times better than before.
Shit went down.
Also it was a 40km long Flying Fortress that he crashed into an archangel in order to punch it.
>dat Victoria's Secret model face
Dead Touma only lasted for one LN. He's the type that wouldn't die even if he was killed.
You're probably refering to WW3, when he went down with the flying castle thing. He came back like one novel afterwards, he was saved by Birdway and her golden-style magic cabal, and has been fighting a group of very powerful Norse-based magicians who want to remake the world so AC lost WW3.
Many thing happened and for now he faced againts a sexy magic god who able to end the world and build it again according to her view. She torture him both ways to the extreme with this.
Accelerator might join if Will decides to ask him to. Thor might join in if he thinks thinks he'll get more exp fighting on Touma's side. Fiamma might help him, at least i doubt he would stand in his way. Gunha sowing up out of the blue would be fun too. Misaki would help him if she can.
Jesus Christ, the wait for Part 5 is excruciating
>Othinus murdered by Index and Misaka in front of Touma.
I'd like to see them going against him, making true and adding more value to Will-chan's words and Touma becoming a demon king with only her and Othinus by his side.
What's with the choking fetish, first Misaki then her?
I don't want to see them at all for a while.
>Touma finally breaks
Masochism, choking, scent fetish, Kamachi is a kinky bastard.
Why didn't he use that with Kihara?
Compared to other LN translations we have it pretty good.
He had a machine that canceled out his wind attacks.
Because Amata was fucking with his calculations, making Accel incapable of using shit other than reflection.
because Amata fucked with his control over the wind iirc
I miss Amata.
I just want someone to hug Touma, anybody. Doesn't matter if it's Index, Mikoto, Thor or even Othinus.
We need more Kihara arcs.
Who the fuck is Amata?
You made me imagine Acqua hugging Touma.
All of the alliance againts gremlin would be glad to do so, because they think that othinus is very dangerous.
Maybe like stiyl, aqua, and anyone who have obligation to their organization. Ollerus maybe will too because he targeted othinus right? and maybe gunha at the beginning (just looking at the news) but will join later (after explained what happened by touma)
Shame Gensei didn't have his way with Misaki's body.
Well he has a son apparently.
Maybe we will get to see him one of these days.
No. Fuck off with that. No.
Gunha would definitely join the Kamijou faction after hearing about Touma's lifetimes worth of GUTS
>Accel get's a tsundere shota in his harem
>magic god starts all sorts of shit around the world to create Gungnir
>turned out to be rusing everyone and pulls it out of her eye socket
>ends the world, solar system, and probably the universe
>wants Touma to kill himself
>makes him live through thousands of different worlds all designed to hurt him as much as possible
>kills him when he eventually fights her
>makes him live through the worlds ALL OVER AGAIN before killing him again, and again, and again
>Touma currently delivering his speech between resets
Also Kakine became an immortal dark matter zombie, then a beetle became Kakine, then Kakine's organs became a volleyball.
OH that person. My bad sorry.
Let Touma have his way after the whole situation.
>"Precedence: Acqua Hugs - Lower, Terra Hugs - Higher."
Touma will get knocked out until the end of the festival.
Why can't he reflect first wave of the Sweep, is it because of the spell's magic essence or because the meteors was simply too strong for his auto-reflect.
Are there really only few spoilers of Accel manga?
to add more...
>He already killed billion of times before he deliver his speech between the reset.
What kind of mental strenght does he have, i hope this will not affect his personality...
It's telesma based shit, which he can't reflect.
This chapter had more plot progression than the three previous together.
Kamachi said he will not change. He has definitely developed, but the core of Touma is Touma.
Basically he isn't able to reflect strong magic attacks. At least in his normal mode. His reflection acts as a shield but still doesn't accomplish its work well. Because of that protection he doesn't die of Gabriel's attacks, survives them and even capable of fighting further. Well, because of his strong will too.
Is this from the afterword? is there any more info about the next vol like how will othinus react to touma saving her?
More interest of LN and somewhat of Railgun. Accel is low key at this point.
> Man shall not live by food alone
Well duh, you need water too. In fact, water is probably the more important of the two, at least in the short term.
He has learned to fight for himself using the same reasoning he uses for other people. He now sees himself as someone who is equally valuable as the people he fights for. That's what I like the most about this novel. His resolve doesn't change, but he has developed as character.
According to the nips, it's dere time.
But they have lied to us before, like saying that Othinus and Will were supposed to replace the heroines.
Unless it's a comedy scene. You know, Touma has no way of avoid getting hurt then.
I just want someone to upload spoilers/some scans. 10 would be great. I'm interested as shit and there's a large group of people around me on the internet waiting for spoilers or the chapter itself.
And, Railgun RAW is already out, nothing about 9 NT was updated, so maybe it's time.
Exactly. Touma on the exterior is still your punch to the face, break that illusion, etc. But he has matured in his own way. Does not look down on himself anymore. It's a great way to keep momentum in his character development, while not changing him into someone completely different.
Eh, he doesn't remember everything, every new world he only remembers fragments of the old ones, and his brain tries to interpret what happened as one linear story. Like he may be killed a thousand times with only one tenth of the time being able to get a word inbetween, but he remembers it as speaking 100 words in a row more or less.
Othinus, on the other hand, remembers everything which happens. That can't be very nice.
Go to bed, Stiyl.
Isn't it stated that he himself forces it down and tries to forget the pain and fear? that takes quite a lot of mental strength to do.
The fun thing about this is, he basically got the same treatment about "not sacrificing yourself" as he gave Mikoto during the sisters arc. Hypocrite much?
Someone mindbroked Touma? who is this lord?
About time he remember what his past life look like before the events of index. Maybe this will boost his capability to combat by using the imagine breaker in different way. If i recall correctly, the past him should know the true identity of imagine breaker right?
She smells really nice.
Nearly mindbroke. Will-chan made him grit those teeth before he was completely broken.
Why did Othinus want to become a Magic God again?
Odin with a vagina
Although we called her Othinus.
For the best scent ever.
He was with Misaka of course
Yeah, haha. That's why someone earlier said that this is his own "Sister's Arc" and I agree with that.
Later he declares war against the entire world to protect her.
To be fair, in that kind of situation he couldn't be thinking clearly. Dude was psychologically tortured for who knows how many loops beforehand, the last one just pushed him over the edge.
And has a lovely voice. Oh, god, I hope Touma fucks her so we can hear those moans.
I hope that her missing hat is a sign that Touma was finally able to reach her face with his fist
When the fuck did this happen?
That's the BT scan that somebody cleaned and merged.
Real scans still aren't out yet.
Well he touches her face and says he gives and wishes her luck in creating her new world.
Well, unlike Mikoto, everything about him is erased: his existence, his hardwork, and his friends. He literally had nowhere to go other than 6 ft. under until Will finally slapped some sense into him. At least he learned to preserve his needs
Because she was originally one, then gave up her power when she felt the world didn't need her, and then decided to regain her power around when WWIII happened.
True, it took considerable more effort to try to break Touma instead of Mikoto. Mikoto gave up on the point of finding out that she was essentially fighting against the whole of Academy City, Touma gave up on learning that pretty much everyone in the world he knew would be better off without him around.
Now I want to see Mikoto punching Touma for trying to take the easy way out himself after he tells her what happened, berating him for him telling herself that a long time ago and then not following up on it himself.
>your tears hurt me more than million worlds of torture and despair
how would they manage the voice if it were made into anime?
What's with the Japs lately?
Are they mad at us or something? Why are scans taking longer than usual, or just not coming out at all? City-kun is awesome and all, but why did he have to do it for us in the first place?
Seems to me she was getting pissed at Aleister trying to mess with the pure world.
The usual guy probably got arrested, or died or something.
ITSUWA DID NOTHING WRONG
At least Itsuwa has company now.
i always knew Senjougahara was up to something.
The Amakusa weren't mentuoned in NT8 because they were all at Tatemiya's funeral.
Except Itsuwa, obviously.
Oh, good one. Inoue Marina is another.
Othinus wearing Anti-Skill suit when?
Weird how they probably have the best understanding of each other after all that bullshit.
Don't believe their lies!
She's already that bitch from the PSP game.
Okay, just wanna clarify. The LN states that Touma has to repeat going through despair worlds every time he dies just to reach Othinus again and continue his speech (repeat infinite apocalypses and all that). He rearranges his memory to think of it as a linear event so he can add a few words before getting killed by Othinus before he repeats the process.
What I want to know is, is each loop exactly the same as the last? I ask this because I cannot imagine Will giving him the same lecture every time since she's disappearing and all that.
Assuming the first progression is
Black World -> Alpha -> Beta (which includes those worlds where he used his flesh to feed people etc) -> Omega -> Will talks to him -> confronts Othinus
Is the 2nd loop and onward the same or not? What I was thinking is written below but I'm not really sure if it's correct. Maybe Will does talk to him every loop.
Start again from Black World but he remembers the first loop along with Will's speech-> Alpha -> Beta -> Omega -> confronts Othinus and adds a few words to his speech
Alternatively, Nana Mizuki.
No as he experiences new horrors of suffering before he reaches her.
Black World -> shitty worlds betwenn Beta and Omega -> school yard
>What I want to know is, is each loop exactly the same as the last? I ask this because I cannot imagine Will giving him the same lecture every time since she's disappearing and all that.
It's not like Touma gone into a loop where the exact same thing happened to him. Probably there are more variations of Othinus' tortures to make him despair that isn't written for obvious reason.
I think after the pep talk, it would go
>Black World -> Alpha -> Beta -> Omega, in which her confronts Othinus
She makes him go through all that shit again, but by the time he reaches the perfect world, he just has to get up and walk to the schoolyard and get obliterated after he completes his next syllable
>he dies just to reach Othinus again and continue his speech (repeat infinite apocalypses and all that)
It's more that every new time they meet he gets a little bit further, dodging attacks which would've gotten him the last 100 trials etc.
So we still have no idea how many years Touma went through.
if not for the violence, this would be a really mushy romance novel
This is the latest relationship chart that i can find. (Looks like this chart based from NT 7 or 8)
The status starting from the inner circle:
- Not yet determined (the most outer one)
One thing is sure. He is already older than the entire cast except for Fraulein, Othinus and the immortal loli.
There was a new one posted a few threads ago
You should look back through the recent threads, there's an updated one for NT9 with Othinus and Will-tan both in the inner circle.
I thought it was just 10000~ loops.
This is the latest one.
Man outside he is a teenage boy but inside he is mentally aged and scarred of the torments of eternity. God damn Othinus you sure are a cruel bitch.
10031+ loops each of hundreds, thousands, maybe even millions of worlds each.
Othinus confirmed for LOVE.
who's the empty square? Will-chan?
> Shutaura was level 4
That seems slightly off given that her ability was basically just "turn this specific rare metal into an explosive when touching it". Wasn't the Graviton Bomber, who did something similar with aluminum, only Level 3 even with Level Upper?
>Making soccer and baseball teams out of his children
Even in marriage the suffering never ends.
Eh, physically he'll be the same age, and mentally he doesn't remember it as such a long time.
Without Level upper he was Level 2. with it he was Level 4, and did similar shit as Shutaura did.
her square is closer than anyone else's. son of a bitch
I imagine a future where Touma is catatonic from all of the pain. For some reason, Misaki is the one who is always visiting him in this world.
Why is my brain doing that?
how is Sasha not "flag"
Anybody got the recent one of this?
The one that touma already punched in all of the events. From this chart, from the first time touma meet index until the gremlin arc, it's already been 4 months. So many happened in this short times... He really is unlucky
Isn't kazaki also confirmed for love interests
The levels of that chart only go by love, ally and acquaintance.
m8 it could be fucking possible.
How is Birdway love
She only wants to repay her debt to him.
>not making person go home run
Index was more interesting when it was just about touma and his adventure, with occasional school life comedy.
Now it's just convoluted with too many characters in the spotlight that I simply don't give a shit about
Shutaura was supposed to be an esper?
I just thought she was using technology
At first I thought it was something like
Touma dies confronting Othinus -> start again at Black World while remembering the first loop where Will talked to him -> gets thrown into some new fucked up world by Othinus -> confront Othinus at courtyard in that new world
But then there's the part where it says " he was smashed by Othinus and forced to repeat all of the infinite apocalypses he had finally overcome" so Othinus just doesn't add a new world but makes him go through everything again and possibly adds a new one after. Maybe it's
Touma dies -> restart at Black world while remembering the first loop -> repeat all the previous worlds he already got through -> Othinus possibly tries a new world to break Touma -> Touma manages to survive and confronts her in the courtyard of that new world -> Touma dies and that new world gets added to the "previous worlds" stack he has to repeat
Her's and Willsaka's are right next to his
Have 10032 made any appearance lately? She is the best
when they start talking about Hamazura and all these other guys i just zone out
Yes. That's the reason her explosive discs needed the wires rather than being remotely detonated.
But the thing that confuses me is why do I imagine Misaki specifically as the one who stays by soulless Touma's side?
Her last real appearance was NT5/6 where she told WORST to go to hell.
All those disks exploding was her using her power.
She's a Level 4 Earth Palette, essentially meaning that she can make rare earth metals explode. It seems like she needs some kind of connection to make shit explode though, which is why she uses the wires.
She talks with him via telepathy.
Fuck you man, now I have what to think during sleep.
Probably that mystery of Touma and her before his memory loss. There is a previous relations but we never got told how and why. But that is my own reason.
Isn't that kind of a shitty power?
Why is Sozty so perfect?
Was this mentioned in the movie and I just didn't notice or what
Yeah, if Othinus can't destroy her filters, maybe he has to go through them all again.
What do the two sides mean?
That means we've got a quadratic increase in time here. Fucking hell, Othinus.
>Implying Touma is a very interesting character
Eh, there are a lot of shitty powers in AC, this one is actually pretty useful in combat.
Yes. Ladylee talks to Shutaura about her power at some point, mentioning it being a very rare power.
Magic and Science
he's SUPER interesting
"Bitches and assholes I punched"
I don't remember Lessar and Marian though.
I should stop turning off my brain while watching things then
Hell this explains why Touma wasn't that hurt from the explosions in his confrontation with Shutaura since he sometimes used his right hand, I thought it was just shit directing/writing
(Rather, the time for Touma to get through all the loops is a quadratic relation to the number of loops.)
Did you even look at the Chart before answering?
>>100974375 is right
Lessar was during Civil War arc
I ocassionaly imagine Touma and Saiai meetting accidentally and talking casually before going to do their own business.
I don't think ability level is only based on complexity, but also power; at this point I won't be surprised if levels are mostly arbitrary
Saiai is a pretty cute name.
Honestly I don't care who they feature, as long as it is not convoluted and being changed every chapter.
Everytime they get to shiage and his crew or some random magic nobodies I just get bored to death.
I would love reading nothing but touma punching people that needs to be corrected
> not liking the End of the Century Emperor's bullshit victories
Look closely. Othinus is a pixel closer.
Levels are basically determined by military usability.
0, 1 and 2 are basically useless in everyday life.
3 is when powers are considered convenient in everyday life
4 is when the wielder would have a tactical value in a military force
5 is when the wielder is considered to be able to stand on even foot against a military force.
6 is basically god.
she's also cuter, which counts for an order of magnitude
I thought that it was based on their usefulness to Aleister. At least for the Level 5s, anyways.
>Himegami will never be relevant
You're thinking of the relative ranks of the Level 5s.
Lol, everyone here talking shit about suffering, yet we all know the same shit as always is gonna happen. Touma gets portrayed as some kind of badass never give up shounen hero, saves the world, bitch slaps the new bitch. New bitch falls in love with Touma and everything goes back to normal.
Oops, my bad
HE HATES IT
Why are there 14 males but counted as 13?
> yet we all know the same shit as always is gonna happen
Welcome to literature in general. All stories have been done before, the difference is in how they are told.
Indexchu 3 never
Can't argue with that.
Accel is listed twice.
The sky is blue yet her future seems dark
Yes it's going to told in the same way it has been for the past 20 something volumes.
If Othinus can recreate reality, can she restore Touma's memories?
Welcome to Index.
The god cries while Touma dies. Oh that rhymes.
You should know better than to reply.
Touma just learned to aggravate his brain damage so he could forget things at will.
He's probably going to enter a coma soon.
Touma at the end remembers everything. Don't worry.
Is it time yet?
what happened in the novel
Yes. But she doesn't know about it.
She wants Touma to be her Onii-chan
The love of an imouto for her onii-chan
>want to get into this series
>but then again, kind of don't
I guess I'll just settle for doujin.
Thanks for letting us know anon
>Raw: 10th Mystery
Aha, so the big groups have contact with the chink raw providers no wonder they're so fast.
does Tsuchimikado think he's hot or what
or is he trying to attract Maika
Who is the last female?
Moshi moshi, Maika desu
Fuyukawa's art is getting more and more delicious.
Yes and tries to get with chicks.
i want her to spin for me
he choked misaki? can you spoil me please?
Read the thread.
So, was it rape?
You wanna get beat the fuck up?
So, Accel manga complete scans/raws when
I'm not afraid of a corpse.
you forgot your Axe bodyspray in my house, faggot
>And, Railgun RAW is already out
Chink scanlations are not raw, so no you're wrong.
Can't you shut up already? You're not going to get raws until around the end of the week when our raw provider scans it.
Stiyl has tiny fucking feet for such a giant fourteen year old.
How can Othinus be this sexy. I can't fathom it.
What if Stiyl is actually two short 14 year olds, one on top of the other's shoulders? That would explain his height and why he gets tripped up.
Better image scans when?
I need a better version of Touma's ultimate suffering. Just look at that fucking face.
Holy fuck Othinus is sexy as hell. Don't blame Touma smelling her.
i wanna lick her bare stomach
>something sexy this way comes
I'd fuck her
I'd fuck her HARD
You should be
It wasn't me. It was another guy.
And, Railgun scans were provided immediately.
it's your own fault for being so lazy
Wonder how it is like to bang her while she wears her cape.
i just realized her feet aren't touching the ground
And they're in Chinese, we don't use Chinese scans because they look like shit. What exactly is us being lazy have to do with anything?
When my copy comes and I can debind it.
Waiting for SAL is suffering.
She better put out after all this shit is done, TouMAN has possibly went through years without fapping.
it would be a capetivating experience
Thank you based anon.
Now that the Japanese have abandoned us, people like you are all we have.
Well, to stop that, people would really appreciate it and be thankful if you provide scans for this manga as soon as possible. So, go luck.
He would probably bang her and just start smell her as he got addicted to her aroma.
You don't seem to understand that it takes time for a magazine to ship, get debinded, and scanned to good quality.
I wonder if Touma is just going to start sniffing all the other girls in his harem.
He's already commented on Mikoto's scent way back in Volume 5.
Index's robes are probably dirty and foul smelling given she has the one and never changes
Eh he probably just think it isn't good as Othinus so he would be in a rut wanting her but cannot have it.
Shouldn't she smell like ozone?
i'm convinced Othinus is a Vic's Secret model
and she can probably sing great, considering he talks about her voice
does any other girl even have a chance?
Doesn't TouMAN destroy that thing like, a million times a week? How can it be dirty?
Him being drunk heightens his capability of sniffing anyone in a 666 meter radius
Maybe I don't understand it perfectly but at least I'm not the one who asks for scans. I'm the one who waits in silence.
Why would he destroy it again after its magic was already gone?
Good because the other guy has been getting annoying with his entitlement.
Nah it's a program and we first need to go through NT10 before we can start backing that.
Maybe he should punch himself in the face.
That seemed to work for pretty much everybody else.
I swore that regens its magic after a period of time. I know he destroyed that at least more than once with his hand.
Based on the parody volumes and NT2, being drunk grants Touma some serious superpowers. He seduced thousands of women around the world in a single fucking night and dodged Mikoto's electricity without using IB.
I bet if he went out and got drunk off his ass in this volume he would have beaten Othinus easily.
Is she really missing one eye?
I don't ever recall that being said and she still uses the pins and needles format long after so I think you're wrong
She gouged out her eye and hung herself from a tree for 9 days
Yes, she is Odin from Norse mythology.
She probably did that to Touma in one of the worlds.
that's nothing compared to what she's doing to Touma now
Possibly, Could be some anime filler bullshit i'm remembering
>Meanwhile, Kamijou started to wonder why she had gotten closer than necessary and his body tensed up slightly at the scent of her hair.
It must smell delicious to have that reaction.
Index anime didn't have filler
Most that has happened was they needed to get Index some other clothing when they traveled to Italy because the pins and needles wouldn't let them pass security
How overpowered would drunk Gunha be? His ability to gain new powers is based on whether or not he can create a bullshit reason for why he can do it.
Relying on alcohol doesn't make any GUTS anon
Geh I needa go re-read some volumes then. My memory and knowledge is severely lacking again.
The Doujins better be good.
Why does it shine sometimes?
Why don't you save my pictures with their filenames 4chan I make them with love and care
It would be like semi-Level 6 Mikoto, in that it would probably take out all of AC, but it would be because he keeps mistaking street lights and other large metal poles for robots and attacking them with full power.
I'd like to see what all the level 5 people are like drunk. Mikoto would probably cling to Touma and refuse to let him leave her, Accelerator would probably black out after the first drink, Mugino might either destroy an entire city block or go full dere.
There are a shitload of doujins though.
>NTR doujins with "Kamijou Touma"
I can't wait
Moot's way of saying a post is always a repost of a repost.
>full dere Mugino
>mistaking street lights and other large metal poles for robots
Alcohol is not LSD.
>Mikoto would probably cling to Touma and refuse to let him leave her
So, no change?
Aw, fuck you, dude. Now I won't be able to unhear Homu taunting Touma throughout each world.
>Alcohol is not LSD.
GUTS doesn't work well with alcohol.
>So, no change?
I mean physically.
Starts crying a lot and apologizing to everyone and everything
Starts making beetles and other insects that are also drunk
Clings to Touma and confesses
Starts blasting things and having a lot of fun, Hamazura tells her to stop and she takes him to a love hotel to entertain her
Starts acting like a cunt and controlling everyone to get her more drinks and convince them she's not drunk
Masturbates to Touma
Crying. Lots of crying.
> Mugino might either destroy an entire city block or go full dere.
She'd do both.
Meanwhile, I get the feeling Kakine and Misaki would be sappy drunks.
>Accelerator would probably black out after the first drink
I loled hard.
Kakine would be excited and telling bad jokes trying to seduce women and girls around him.
Why hasn't a Kihara gotten every notable esper in Academy City drunk at least once for science purposes?
Wouldn't their powers go haywire since esper abilities need concentration and continuous mental calculations for proper use?
Kakine would produce Drunk Matter
Misaki would be hyperventilating about the idea of being with Touma and talking about some fantasy,
Wonder what slipping LSD would do to an esper's Personal Reality
Why would you want to unhear that?
Starts eating soap, toothpaste and paper.
>give Kakine LSD
>[laws of physics breaking intensifies]
I can see Kakine splitting into two so he can take care of himself while he's all sappy.
She'd cause all females surrounding Touma to strip and start masturbating.
How are you so sure Kanzaki won't Strip and rape TouMAN On site?
I just noticed that Touma makes small scratches with his fingernail every time he repeats the loop.
>Straight scratches had been made with someone’s fingernail.
>Did they count the passage of time or the number of times someone had passed by there? The person could no longer remember.
>But that number that slowly grew provided a slight sense of accomplishment.
>It had no meaning, but it provided support
>Kakine breaks down crying
>He creates another Kakine to pat him on the back and tell him everything is OK.
>That one breaks down crying as well
>Endless cycle of tears
> Drunk Kanzaki
That reminds me of the Index-tan bit about Shizuka Itou getting drunk at the Index wrap party.
Man this LN has made us quite horny. All because of her aroma. God damn.
The last time Kanzaki got drunk, she beat the everloving tar out of Touma. Then she realized that he suffered as a direct result of her irresponsible actions and made up her mind to take responsibility.
Index-tan agreed don't bother me
You do that BEFORE getting wasted, otherwise it'd be a disaster!
She would get drunk, sit on Washing Machine-kun for awhile while shouting his name, then dress up as Fallen Ero Angel Maid-san and jump from England to Academy City and hunt him down, only to chicken out at the last second.
No, she would mind-control a couple that looks almost like them and make them fuck each other senseless while she watches with a tub of ice cream and cries, wondering why she could never bring herself to approach Touma directly. A pity masturbation session afterwards would be spoiled because she'll realize that the guy she had chosen looks nothing like her beloved prince and the girl representing her looks like a whore.
Shit, I forgot about that. Makes much more sense now.
If that were just about Touma it wouldn't make sense for it to be a Between the Lines. My impression had been that those bits were just as much about Othinus as they were Touma.
>Implying drunk Mikoto wouldn't let Kuroko have her way with her
Even drunk Mikoto doesn't want any of that.
She might mistake Gunha for Touma though and try to cling to him.
>and the girl representing her looks like a whore.
Why am I laughing so hard.
New thread is needed i guess.
Not really, we haven't gotten any translations since yesterday. Just stick to the archive.
Because she is one, anon
It's a profound introspective moment for her
Wait for next part of novel translation, or accelgun scans
>Implying we want AccelGun rather than part 5 of chapter 8
A lot of crying, trying to tell everyone what a horrible life he's had, and apologizing to everyone. Then he falls asleep on a table.
Starts having problems with maintaining his shape and changes into various animals from time to time. Meanwhile he keeps trying to hit on girls around him
Gets dere as fuck to Touma, keeps clinging to him, then starts to get annoyed when he tries to ignore her, following in a drunken tirade about how dense he is ending in an embarrassed confession.
Threatens whoever is bringing the booze to bring her more, and acts sweet it's creepy to the rest of item.
Rant about how nobody understands her and how she has no friends at all, meanwhile everyone around her starts to act drunk too.
Fails at hiding
Starts talking to everyone how they don't have enough guts, gets into drunken brawls, ending in him getting dragged away by judgement.
Thinks of a plan which involves getting all Level 5's drunk together
The Between the Lines often have double meaning. It didn't mention anyone specifically so that you can imagine parts of it applying to both Othinus and Touma.
Touma did say that Othinus' power led to her becoming "lost" in an infinite number of possible worlds. Othinus is just subjecting Touma to the same thing that broke her. If it can cause a god to despair, surely it'll work on any human right?
>Fails at hiding
Well done anon.
What the fuck is going on in the last panel of that image
>Now you won't fuck my man again, will you bitch?
Or something like that more than likely.
The face of someone putting a bitch in her place
I don't understand, isn't that good?
I don't see BriBri getting hit. So that seems wrong.
Easier just to translate the page.
No, it's right.
What does the other page say?
NT9 is the greatest case of Stockholm syndrome I've seen.
>M-Misaka-san...? I don't think violence is the answer...
Or at least I think that's 暴力的 anyway. Fucking moon people and their cancerously small text.
I'd say it's close to Lima syndrome. Because Othinus wants the T.
i just found the ultimate Biribiri protection suit for Touma
But Othinus's smell, man.
And her armpits.
And her everything else.
You can't blame the TouMAN.
maybe he is a M.
Locking yourself in an iron rig seems like a horribly bad idea when Mikoto just pulls walls apart because they are reinforced with steel.
Would Gunha try to take advantage of a vulnerable and confused drunk maiden?
Nothing to see but Othinus
Nothing to hear but Othinus
Nothing to smell but Othinus
Nothing to feel but Othinus
Nothing means anything but Othinus
Truly, the greatest love story ever told
At this point there are only 2 "people" capable of understanding what Touma went trough. Othinus and will-chan
What do you call it if both Lima and Stockholm happens at the same time?
He would probably be just as confused, but he can't fight back because she wouldn't be attacking him, just trying to cling to him. Instead he would try to convince her that he wasn't this Touma guy, and after failing to do that he would probably start running away. He would keep in sight of her however to make sure that she is safe while chasing him, until he gets to an Anti-Skill station and drops her off there.
What if she starts crying?
Not really. Touma protecting Othinus is what would have happened regardless of NT9s events, so its not so much him growing to love her as much as it's him not holding her actions against her. The Lima syndrome thing is true though.
>stronger than accelerator
He pretends to be Touma while being very uncomfortable until she passes out and he drops her off at her dorm or at Anti-Skill.
As she is, she may be stronger than Base Accelerator. She seems to be making some black hole thing. Accelerator can vector gravity, but I doubt he can vector a singularity in base.
Greatest love story ever told.
>not just making shit as he goes along
she is if he wants her to be.
Nah, according to Miki Kamachi is pretty insane when it comes to plotting things out.
He plans at least 3 novels in advance.
That's right, NT10, 11, and 12 aren't out because of Haimura.
Well, Gunha should know who Touma is.
I wonder how Touma responds to a crying drunk biribiri at his doorstep.
Another inconvenience in the life of Touma
But really he'd probably either take her back to her dorm, or cover her up and let her sleep it off in his dorm.
If he does the first one Kuroko will murder him.
If he does the second one then she wakes up, freaks out because she can't remember how she got into his bed, and fries all his shit.
>Th-There are two of you!?!?!?!
then either biribiri or all electical appliances in the nearest 5 square kilometers explode
In case 2 I think she'd be too embarrassed to do anything. She'd probably be very quiet and then ask if anything happened last night. Then at first she'd be at ease. And then she'd bet annoyed because he didn't do anything.
Meanwhile Touma would be very confused.
And then the zapping starts
This threads ride is almost over. Good run.
The drunk thing reminds me of that thread about the SOL adventures of the level 5, anyone got that screencap?
You forgot case 3: Bring her over to Komoe's place and let her stay there for the night. Komoe is used to that kind of thing by this point.
Sitting in archives?
>"that which dwells in the Sahara" thing from the parody volume
>Mikoto's transformation based on egyptian sky goddess
Yeah, at least until the next part is translated.
I'm pretty sure Komoe would faint on having two Level 5's at her door.
Also how the hell would Gunha know Komoe?
I meant Touma taking her over to Komoe's when he finds her on his doorstep.
Guessing jsbro is finishing off the novel since there's little bit left.
He said what's done of chapter 8 wasn't even 25% of the chapter. Granted I have no idea how long the epilogue is.
Yeah. I'm just talking chapter-wise. He might just finish it off tonight.
Has Asumi Kana been used yet? would also go Othinus.
Who will save the day in Railgun?
It's becoming less likely it'll be Touma.
Saten of course
She is the true hero AC needs, but doesn't deserve
Not sure if Touma will save the day, but he will likely save Misaki and Mikoto.
Mitori should be the one influencing/controlling Mikoto. Since Kuroko has her cornered, I guess Mitori will lose control soon. And from that point on the plan collapses
But Gensei just wants Mikoto to reach Level 6, he doesn't give a shit about Mitori controlling Mikoto to get revenge.
Oh, hey that one guy was right. This month's chapter is 30 pages and had some good stuff in it.
Maybe Kamachi finally told Fuyukawa to fuck off.
But nothing happened.
> Misaki gets choked
> Gensei steals Exterior's access code
> Kuroko tricks Mitori and stupidly announces her presence when she goes on the attack
> Mikoto starts going all Nuit and makes black holes or some shit like that
I doubt those are actually black holes. An actual black hole that size would be enough to suck in the Earth.
Yep. That's something to me.
Given my standards have dropped after the past 3 chapters, that was actually surprising in a positive way. Shit happened.
Well they definitely aren't any electrical phenomena I know of. Maybe some kind of dark matter.
Iron sand/black lightning like the earlier chapters.
Not sure why an iron sand attack would be a big space warping ball.
Chainsaw shrapnel grenade with lightning for extra "fuck you"?
It's the black world where Touma eventually ends up in NT9. Can't you see, Kamachi planned this, he planned it all!
If you look closely, on one of the pages you can see electricity inside the weird dark sphere although I still have no idea what it's supposed to be.
I don't see any space warping shit from the sphere. Definitely not a black hole. I do see magnetic effects, though.
It might be a way to "trap" and accumulate charge inside the sphere, so energy from several max discharges can be released at once.
Parts 5 and 6 are up:
I love you. No homo.
You are awesome.
>Ollerus had spoken as if he knew what he was talking about, but he was nothing more than a human. Even if he knew a thing or two about gods, he may not have understood the true scale of it all.
>I’ve given up on running from the pain. I’m not going to let myself chicken out just because I’m up against a god! I’ll do whatever it takes to have you choose my card!!”
Touma too awesome.
Terra had a point. You'd think with all this hands-on training involving magic to the face that he would've learned something about Imagine Breaker by this point. He's essentially lived a lifetime or then some fighting with Othinus, and Terra reasoned that he should have learned something by the time he was 16.
It just seems the only thing Touma learned was that he can just reposition the shit he can't negate. He's come to no real understanding of IB, though.
This is really the best novel for Touma. No other of his moments come even close.
"Kamijou Touma as a human." best novel indeed. Very personal.
So would somebody make new thread?
And what else is he supposed to learn?
There isn't a book out there that'll tell him all aboit Imagine Breaker, and the only one who knows better about it is Crowley, who isn't big on personal meetings, and requires a teleporter to reach
Maybe Touma will learn something if he didn't tell the thing sealed inside him to fuck off when it came out. Too bad he hates power-ups.
He's can stop by to the local counseling center and ask the Kihara in charge to run some experiments on him.
>Allowing a Kihara to experiment on you
>Assuming those fuckers could figure out a thing about it
Whats stopping you?
Well, its not like he can take a break for research in the hellscapes she puts him through, asking her probably wouldn't get him far, and he won't learn anything new by blocking attacks.
Come to think of it, why hasn't he questioned that?
Some thing tries to leave his body and he doesn't think to ask any of the magical experts he knows what the fuck happened?
A Kihara would wonder if IB works after being severed, so they'd definitely figure out one thing.
Well consider that he hasn't had a break since WW3, and that there were much more important things to worry about, and that nobody can examine it unless he cuts off his arm
That's the thing. He can only learn something about IB in the presence of something it negate. The rematches are the perfect place to learn about it. And have you never just had an idea, or had something click in the middle of doing something again and again? And that same thing turns out to improve the overall experience or result of what you do? Basically I was hoping he'd have something like that.
Fairly easy to persuade yourself that it could something else because you were in a fatigued state. He could have just equated it to his darker emotions, or maybe even just forgot about it with the whole sea incident.
IB does one thing, it negates
It does nothing else, just because he fights Othinus a few thousand times (many of which just had her killing him with her lance, or breaking his body directly) doesn't mean he'll suddenly gain the ability to use it at range or whatever
Did Touma even manage to block anything when fighting Othinus? Didn't he just get killed with the first blow every time which is why his first dodge in the most recent translation was so surprising?
Looks like some chuckle fuck made a new thread without linking it here.
This has been happening a little too much lately.
Did you miss everything about it in the latest novel? Everyone—Othinus, Ollerus, and even Touma himself—admits that IB is used as a reference point for the world. Yes, that means it negates the changes, but the scale and method are different. And Touma admits he has not even the slightest clue on how to use it that way.
And Othinus also said it takes on different forms depending on the era and location, even worried about what form it could take next. Based on what I believe Terra said, Touma's IB is even less versatile or powerful than previous ones. There's likely a reason behind that.
Possibly, but she also killed him on grand scales. I imagine he had to have blocked some by instinct or even accidentally due to just how exaggerated the attacks are.
Let's move there then.
>IB is used as a reference point for the world
You are the one who doesn't understand. IB is unchanging, and is immune to all supernatural phenomenon, so it is used as a reference point from which one can figure out what the basic laws and constants of the world are prior to getting distorted.