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>French TV
>Already aired Kill La Kill and Nisekoi

WHAT THE FUCK?

Why are the French such weeaboos that they get more stuff earlier than the Americans?
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>>100948250
They get KLK 4 days earlier than Japan? That seems like bullshit to me.
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>>100948352

I think it's KLK just a few days after the Japanese airing.
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We got Space Dandy.

Guess what happened though? Shitposting.

I'd rather we not get stuff early in America.
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>>100948430

It's your fault that US publishers only publish "cool and edgy" shit instead of diversifying anime releases to various genres.
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Because France is the second biggest consumer of Japanese media.

Why is this a surprise to you, simulcasts are practically emulation of French airing times?
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>>100948250
Avez-vous un problème, Monsieur?
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>>100948250
Because the French actually buy anime. And manga. And almost every other form of Japanese media.

And they support it in large, massive quantities that actually provide a sustainable market. So basically what >>100948546 said.
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>>100948485
Space Dandy is neither cool nor edgy. Its just goofy space opera comedy.
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>>Already aired Kill La Kill and Nisekoi

The new episode or the one we already watched?
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>>100948633
>space opera

I don't think so.
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>>100948250
>Kill la Kill
That's cool
>Nisekoi
>implying anyone cares
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>>100948609

Non.

Mais, Mais je me déplace à Paris Sorbonne III, donc je suis heureux que vous les gars ont le bon goût dans l'anime.
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Because they don't fly into a blind rage whenever they see nudity and sex.
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>>100948616

Then why don't Americans just buy Japanese media?
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How did anime spread in French?
Is there a story to that?
What can we do to recreate this in US?
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>>100948633

But Shinchiro Watanabe is what you think of when you consider "cool and edgy".
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>>100948721
*in France

>>100948718
Where?
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>>100948721

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manga_outside_Japan#France
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>>100948721
They like art/animation, and sex. Both of which are despised in the US. Anime will never get as big in the US as in France.
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>>100948718
We do, Frodo. Just not in as large of quantities as the French.

Why don't you go find a mirror and dig a tunnel or build some bigger walls or something? HUH?
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>>100948721
Nothing. Anime & Manga had their boom in the America from the late 90's to mid 00's. It's over for their market. The fad came and went, and average people don't have the kind of disposable income they did a decade ago. Now, they just watch streams on Hulu and Netflix.
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>>100948718
because we don't like being told to bend over and pay twice the base cost just in shipping and handling.
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I work with a French guy who I thought was pretty normal, but it turns out he's the kind of guy who buys manga series in both French and Japanese and covers them in plastic for preservation.
The French are really wapanese.
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>>100948721
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Japanese_relations

Its too late to replicate this shit. France & UK have it good.
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>>100948784

Also, their President fucked another lady and just told his gf to fuck off, and his popularity just went up by 20%.

Franswag Hollande indeed
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I want to hear the French dub.
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bump
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>>100949161
They dub?
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>>100949699
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bump
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>>100948250
France also has the entirety of JJBA translated, without any name changes AFAIK.
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>>100949010
>covers them in plastic

lol. manga isn't golden-age comics.
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>>100948718
Murika too poor for foreigner goods.
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>>100951647

Araki even has an exhibition at the fucking Louvre
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>>100948721
Its been popular since the 70's. Grandparents watched Leiji Matsumuto shows and Lupin the 3rd.

Also its Europe, they import foreign entertainment. US is isolated in its media and laws.
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>>100948733
No, when I think of "cool and edgy" I get Urobutcher, not Watanabe.
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>>100948250
Anime/Manga are seen as an art form there, plus they're not so damn prude about sex. People actually know who Araki is which is great.
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That's Pay TV, isn't it? Garbage.
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>>100948250
French people pay for their chinese cartoons, Americans don't. Also, French-Japanese relations are pretty good.
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>mangas.fr
>mangas
lel
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french and belgians have a long history of comics. think of asterix, tintin etc.

they probably influenced japanese comics and cartoons most of all nations.
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>>100952580
It's not so much laws as greed.

If you have a finished product you want to sell, then most TV networks will refuse you at the door. They want to own you, and want control over the production.
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>>100956344
The highest authority on french language has spoken, manga is also a french word, so it takes the s.
http://www.academie-francaise.fr/dire-ne-pas-dire/courrier-des-internautes?page=2
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>>100948485
That's what sells in Clapistan
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>>100956344
>dollarS
>euroS
>"that TV costs 1,000.00 $" instead of "1.000,00 $"
>boiling point of the most important liquid is 212°
why does the anglosphere suck so much?
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It's true. The french have so many manga and LN series that will never be licensed or a long time away in the states. Even Italy, they also have older anime that would never air on TV here.
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>>100948250
>tfw I disgust France
>I hate it the most out of all countries in the world, even more than Israel
>they are the only country in yurop with an otaku culture worth mentioning
feelsbadman
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>>100956553
Italy is a special case, they had a Mickey Mouse magazine before the US.
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Speaking of anime on TV in other countries.

Did all you britbongs vote for kiniro mosaic on that eastasia channel vote?
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>>100949161
OUI OUI JE M'APPELLE OMELLETTE DU FROMAGE. J'AI CAMEMBERT ANS ET J'HABITE AUX BAGUETTE!!
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>Kawaii Café
They did not even try with that name.
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Germany here.
The only thing we get is One Piece. The same shit over and over again for many many years.
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>>100956834
Netherlands here.
The only thing we get is pokemon and gayblade.
Dubbed.
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>>100948721
>Former French advisors under Jules Brunet fight alongside the last Tokugawa shogunate loyalists of Enomoto Takeaki, against Imperial troops in the Battle of Hakodate

more loyal than meiji dogs
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I remember going to France for Japan expo, they have all the latest series but the fanbase there is so shit.

Its even worse than america
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We get Inu to Hasami wa Tsukaiyo

And i don't even know who the hell think this is good idea
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frenchfag here, living in japan for 2 month now.
It's seems france get 30% of the japanese manga production, generally the more popular.
the rest are some seinen really obscure.

>>100957214
you have no idea, although i can't compare, but i'm glad i left those french manganazis
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Because France means class
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>>100948721
Franch has better comic industry than Manga. All Japanese post apocaliptic manga is inspired by French comix. France was also very big into sci-fi thing until whole genre died.

Now they still produce comics, own cartoons, and watch anime.
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>>100956505
Manga is version of chinese word, Manhua existed in China already in 18th century. Japan after WW2 had a comic boom and called it annalogeous Manga.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhua
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>>100957214
I can agree, went there last year and it's mostly little kids. Cosplays were sadly pretty bad too.
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>>100956834
What VOX exist, stop lieing. I watched Evangelion, Escaflowne, X-Japan, Blue Submarine No6 etc. there

Plus MTV and Viva used to show a lot of decent anime - including Bebop, Noir, Hellsing etc.

RTL2 is kids channel where you see One Pice you mentioned - but even it shown Gundam Wing, Ranma, etc.
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>>100957572
They don't show the older stuff like Bebop, Escaflowne, Golden Boy etc. anymore though. Now it's all Beyblade, Pokemon and censored One Piece.
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>>100957572
RTL2 is a thing in Germany?
Here in the Netherlands we have RTL4, 5, 7 and I believe 8, but not 1, 2 or 6
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>>100957626
aniki.info/Liste_der_im_deutschsprachigen_Fernsehen_ausgestrahlten_Anime
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>>100948250
Because France > 'Murica
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>>100957686
That's a nice list. It shows what chinese cartoons have aired at some time over DECADES, but not the ones running right now. I couldn't care less about what aired 20 years ago on MTV, all that matters is that today's stuff is shit.
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>>100957495
Yeah, and what? Doesn't change anything that it's officially manga, mangas in french.
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>>100957672
We have regular RTL for sensationalist news and shitty original TV shows plus RTL2 for shows where they basically follow fat, unemployed, dumb people around with a camera.
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>>100957528
i went twice in 2012 and 2013, don't get me started on cosplays. Just thinking about it makes me cringe
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>>100957214
but it's a shit fanbase that buys, so the less shit people can enjoy the thing as a whole. Good deal imo.
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>>100957737
I believe theres some german Anime exlusive channel, though its paid.

www.animaxtv.de
www.ip-deutschland.de/smart_tv/news/neuer_smart-tv-channel_clipfi.cfm
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>>100957791
>cosplays
Because 99% of the cosplay at the japan expo are made for fun by actual amateurs and not paid model selling their costumes. The good cosplayers only appear for the contest, but usually judges are shit so they eliminate original and good looking things in favors of "muh nostalgia" and "muh feel music" guys, meaning finals are complete garbage compared to first round.
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>>100948250
>Nisekoi
I hope they keep the receipt
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Japan missed its chance at cultural imperialism by chasing short term profits instead of long term profits. They could be selling BDs and merch with a larger worldwide market than domestic market.

All the nips had to do was let their shows air free of charge without having to pay a licensing fee. Broadcasting companies would have been eating that shit up.
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>>100957781
So you guys have RTL1 and 2.
I wondered why we didn't have those. I belive RTL 6 doesn't exists because people would confuse it with SBS 6 or whatever
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>>100948772
>My country described in positive light
I don't know how to feel about this.
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The USA is the only country where anime is taboo.
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>>100957900
Nah, it's not about paid vs. unpaid. I've been to cons in Germany, France and the US; the American cosplays were consistently better. It must have something to do with available materials/tools/attitude. Even the "Crunchyroll endorsed XYZ" people you see at cons are just regular cosplayers that have a high standard of craftmanship and therefore are sponsored by companies.
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>>100957931
Just curious, does Crunchyroll even pay licensing fees to Jap companies?
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> tfw I can buy translated Yamatogawa and other authors in french

Step it up, ameribros.
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>>100958121
No. But they do share them profit with them. It's a little too late now for Japan to just now be figuring this out. Anime could have been all over late night television when broadcast companies needed something cheap to air.
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>>100948250
The French love their animu and mango.

They got official manga releases of Rozen Maiden volume 2, FrankenFran and Voynich Hotel. Meanwhile, English speaking countries have to rely on scanlations. Doesn't shock me at all that they have currently running anime on TV.
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>>100949161
PERDEZ PAS TON FAÇON
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>>100958035
No, theres Japan too.
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>>100958295
>FrankenFran and Voynich Hotel
FrankenFran was released in Germany, not in France. And Voynich Hotel isn't licensed.
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>>100948250
The French actually enjoy anime. Americans sit around on the internet all day talking about how all anime that isn't shonen or grimdark edgy shit turns people into pedophiles.
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>>100957214

i went to japan expo as well. Their fanbase are easy on the eyes. Just like australian events. I will never understand this whole X has terrible fanbase thing.
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Why is france so based

I can't even find this in sadpanda
So bought.

They also want to publish light novels, you can fill a survey here if you can
http://www.lightnovel.fr/
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is it dubbed or subbed? otherwise not impressive. here in south east asia its pretty much the same.
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>live in canada
>cannot find translated I am a hero manga in my english province
>Go to quebec a lot for vaction
>Find it translated along with a bunch of other awesome manga in french that I cannot find elsewhere
>fuck you japan
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>Going to cons
So much want and so little money.
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>>100956626
The only part of france to really hate is Paris, because it's full of Parisians, but even then, gotta respect their ability to protest and riot man, the Paris police must be fucking ballsy.
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>>100958658
What I found worse are all the fucking gypsies and Nigerians there. It's not as bad outside the tourist spots though.
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It's because Japanese are Frenchaboo. It's mutual love.
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>>100957686
Germany had it shit in anime, because comic/sci-fi culture was very frowned down and people were overprotective for a long time.
If we had privately owned TV channels way before, maybe we could have had grown up with the same stuff Italy/France did.
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Personally I think /a/ could influence the anime market quite a bit in america/north america
Far more than it already does if we were all just more proactive in buying anime and anime products.

Lets say blu-ray of specific series came out, and the majority of /a/'s users were to buy it, as well as all the other people who normally would, it would probably be a big help.

And honestly anime being on netflix does help, as normalfags look at netflix all the time and might give shows a chance. Even if it is just shit like SNK
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>>100957672
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiUEkV_uvq0
>RTL4, 5,7,8
Must be the horror.
RTL is lowering the regular intelligence of Germans.
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>>100958230
There was when there only 3 or 5 TV channels. It was then when Anime had the most potential to stick with people.

Pokemon ruined anime
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>>100958753
/a/ has plenty of people that support anime by spending money on it, go to a buyfag thread. /a/ is also one of the only American websites where an actual creator came to speak with fans (Mamare) because this is one of the few western anime websites that frowns upon the "moeshit/ecchi killed anime" garbage you see in places like ANN, Crunchyroll, and Japanator. As terrible as /a/ is, it is one of the only western anime communities that doesn't have it's head up its ass.

That being said, /a/ isn't comprised of only Americans, and even if all of them were, there aren't enough to make some kind of western influence on the anime industry. To be honest, I don't want western influence on the anime industry. I watch anime to get the fuck away from the trash Hollywood and American television spit out.
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>>100948616
Americans say retarded crap like "paying crunchy rolls or buying from funi doesn't help studio", and wonders why they don't get crap.

You pay for services, wherever they are available to you, then you'll get more shit, distributor gets more shit, and studio gets more shit
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>>100948718
muh pearl harbour
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>>100959058
>"moeshit/ecchi killed anime"
>harem = bad

Seen this all over Reddit and MAL. But it really does seem like only /a/ pays for shit
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>>100958753

SnK will probably give Anime a boost in popularity. Same as Death Note. Its one of those shows....
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>>100948250
Frenchfag here.
Nothing to worry, Mangas (sic) tv channel is not in HD. It's a TV channel for normalfags and casualfags.
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>>100948864
>>100951770
We have French and Belgian editors who import Japanese DVD & Blu-Ray. You don't have this shit in Murrica ?
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>>100949161
No Anon, you wouldn't.
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>>100959150

Back then Moeshit and Ecchi was so differently executed tough...Kill la Kill is an example of how fanservice was back then. Spitgirl too.
Moe was more along the lines of Squid Girl, rather than Kiniro Mosaic or something
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>>100959058
I wasn't actually referring to western influence on shows. I was more hoping that we would be able to get more products here.
And not all western influenced stuff is bad, such as lupin or Jojo.
Also as bad as dubs are, I would like to see more of them. I really hatye being viewed as that weird guy who watches anime
I mean I'm not overly vocal about it, but I hate having to just hide my hobby from people.
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>>100959265
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ1NcxAZUYk
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>>100959398
No, it wasn't. By the looks of your comparisons, I doubt you have even seen an anime more than 10 years old. But of course you are going to pretend you're an expert.
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FUCK YEAH FRANCE !
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>>100959425
Yeah no, I don't want my hobby sanitized for normalfag appeal and ear-cancer dubs. Don't hang out with judgmental assholes and you won't have an issue.
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>>100959469
8/10, I'm about to destroy my keyboard because of those horrible memories.
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>>100959515
Not same guy, but if those shows are "moe" they were still far better executed than the shit they are putting out nowadays.
Also most moe nowadays are you know..slice of life. Alot of the stuff in that chart mix in a lot of action like dirty pair, which I could never consider moeshit
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>>100948250
You also forgot the other french channel J-One who airs after Japan :
Log Horizon, Strike the Blood, Nobunagun, Chuu2-Ren, KnK, etc.
www.j-one.com
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>>100959425
>Also as bad as dubs are, I would like to see more of them.
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>>100959425
If you consider anime a hobby then you're already too far gone.
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>>100959567
It'll happen regardless.
I would rather the industry have more money so they could at least make quality dubs rather than shit ones.
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>>100959627
>Using the word moeshit seriously
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>>100959674
>Japan makes dubs for murrika

Oh wow, you should stop posting.
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>>100958566
>They also want to publish light novels, you can fill a survey here if you can

Yep and it's here : http://lightnovel.fr
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>>100959561
Wait, is that the Kill la Kill OST in the upper left corner of the right pic?
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>>100958567
It airs 1 day after Japan, so it subbed.
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>>100959778
I never said that. Obviously though both american and japanese companies would be making a profit.

>>100959640
I'm sorry, despite you thinking so, anime isn't something only you enjoy and there are people out there who enjoy dubs.
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>>100959916

Yes it is.

I wish I could buy the BD too but Japan and their retarded price.
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>>100948616
>Because the French actually buy anime.
That's partially wrong, the US anime market at the very least for original works is way healthier than the French one (Osoda's movies being an exception).

Anime in France is pretty much reduced as an ad for the manga version of the work, for example, for this season, Witch Craft Works is being aired on french TV J-One one day after the JP airing and is used as an ad for the manga that just started being published in France, and things like that happen every season.
Original anime have a way harder time here than in US, the fact that a season of any anime is sold here for 21~30€ for the BR version is the main reason why, the publishers get their money back on the boosted manga sales, but since there's no manga for original anime, it usually ends up being a loss for them.

For these last 6 years, the only 2 anime big hits in France that aren't manga adaptations are Fate/Zero and Sword Art Online, even Madoka doesn't have a physical release except for the movies because they don't think they are gonna make money on it.
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>>100960875
>Anime in France is pretty much reduced as an ad for the manga version of the work,
I hope you know that's pretty much the same in Japan.
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>>100948772
>Ségolène Royal even published a book, Le Ras le bol des bébés zappeurs in which manga are described as decadent dangerous and violent
A fun fact about that book... I mean pile of turds, she wrote in it a sentence that was pretty much like that: "Children shouldn't watch those uselessly violent and amoral japanese animations like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles but instead should watch good american animations like Tom Sawyer that promotes family values".

I'm not even shitting you.
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>>100961121
Royal is a complete moron. Has that ever been in doubt?
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Weeabooism isn't a new thing in france. Over a century ago french ipressionist painters were already copying Japanese artists for their paintings.
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>>100961121
I know that Sélogène Royal was a complete moron, but jesus fucking christ, Tom Sawyer seriously ?

Plus, Tom Sawyer was animated by the japanese, she's completely retarded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Sawyer_no_Boken
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>>100961121
>>100961171
>>100961321

It's no wonder why she lost the election and was replaced by her ex.
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>>100960875
>even Madoka doesn't have a physical release except for the movies because they don't think they are gonna make money on it.

good god, France get your act together
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>>100961391
It's the truth, the french may appear like weebs but they are normalfag as fuck by /a/ standards
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>>100956465
>It's not so much laws as greed.
>If you have a finished product you want to sell, then most TV networks will refuse you at the door. They want to own you, and want control over the production.

i swear one of you anons better be in the process of being a network or cable executive so you can change this bullshit
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>>100959515
All these anime confirm my statements. KlK, Squid Girl and MGX fit in way better in that chart than the seasonal shit. In Artstyle and execution in general.
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>>100961477
Not all of them (I'm on /a/ right now).
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>>100960875
>US anime market at the very least for original works is way healthier than the French one

Not really, especially when you compare sales with the population of both countries and the value of their money.
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>>100960875
>Anime in France is pretty much reduced as an ad for the manga version of the work,

So...just like in Japan.
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the french have a high tolerance when it comes to comics and stuff because stuff like Asterix, Tintin and Lucky Luke have been around for centuries in this country
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>>100959058
>because this is one of the few western anime websites that frowns upon the "moeshit/ecchi killed anime" garbage

What the fuck are you talking about. Big parts of /a/ love Moe anime.
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>>100960875
>Anime in France is pretty much reduced as an ad for the manga version of the work, for example, for this season,

France culturally doesn't buy DVD and other movies. But they buy printed stories with no social stigma like i the USA. It's available in supermarket and nobody cares and judge if you are an adult reading a manga in public transportation.
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>>100956834
Spain here

We don't even recieve that anymore. There was a time we would get all kind of animes together with Dragon Ball, Saint Seiya and all those. We even had colaborations with the japanese to make series like Dogtanian and the Three Muskehounds.

Now not even that since everyone just see them as "dibujitos animados" (lit. lil draws animated). So we see anime just like Murrikans, like chinese cartoons for kids with no value whatsoever,
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>>100961391
> they don't think they are gonna make money on it.

They won't. The DVD market isn't where the money is. People will buy books and movies, but series never score good enough to be profitable unless you managed to make a profit of it before hand through TV airing.
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>>100958297
>Not Ne perd pas ta voie

>>100951778
The Louvre publishing branch also publishes Rohan au Louvre.

>>100958198
You forgot to say the most important thing:
>100% uncensored
France: The only country in the world where you can see Yamatogawa-drawn pussies.

>>100960910
>>100961571
I know but it's even worse here because even if they sell a lot, original anime aren't even guaranteed to get some money back because it's priced way too low (1 season = 25€, in Japan, it's like 250€, I'm not saying it should be the same but these extremely low prices already killed most anime publishers that don't have a manga branch) since the manga adaptations can get their money back on the boosted manga sales (anime and manga publishers are usually the same in France), but I already explained that in my original post. And this shitty situation is because of a single publisher that is now almost dead because of said prices.
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>>100956834
Mexico here, we used to get a lot of anime in cable and open tv, but the number of manga translated have been increasing with the time (mainly finished series), I just wish they cloud translate light novels.
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>>100961677
thats because comics are a part of french culture since Tintin and Asterix, they grew up with it and are still reading it to this day
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>>100961477
>they are normalfag as fuck by /a/ standards
/a/ is hypocrite and is normalfag as fuck to begin with. It has a shitty "private club" mentality that keeps pointing out things outside without seeing what they are themselves.
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>>100961677
>nobody cares and judge if you are an adult reading a manga in public transportation.
That's not true.
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>>100961761
Stop talking like every release is from Declic Collection. Also higher prices wouldn't work here because people are less dedicated to their hobbies than in Japan. Japanese anime fans don't mind putting all of their income in anime. That won't ever happen in a grand scale here.
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>>100961935
He's right, nobody fucking care if you read a comic or a manga in public in France. Except maybe the niggers / sandniggers and other "racailles".
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>>100961795
Really depends on the country. I went to the biggest german anime convention and people don't even have heard about like 99% of anime. All you see is Naruto, Dragonball and a bit SAO.

Compared to the /a/ is really a elite club that watches more then the four standard anime.
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>>100961935
That actually is, as long as you don't start laughing creepily, nobody gives a shit.
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>>100962047
Nobody cares, but they're judging you alright.
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>>100961935
Why should people give a shit? or more importantly, why should you give a shit? Let them look at you, it is not like they can do anything.
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>>100962075
I don't really care et je les emmerde. I prefer to read mangas than listen to niggers hip-hop or read celebrity magazines.
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>>100961761
>You forgot to say the most important thing:
>>100% uncensored
>France: The only country in the world where you can see Yamatogawa-drawn pussies.

Why doesn't france have a scanning scene?
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>>100961935
reading comics is completely normal in France
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>>100962075
You're not the majority, anon.
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>>100962158

thats right, see

>>100961774
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>>100962141
Yeah right, geek and proud, we're so smarter than them xD
You really sound obnoxious.
That being said, I don't care either, I was just saying that it's not true that nobody's judging you.
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>>100962179
u wot m8 ?
>what is franco-belgian comics ?

A majority of frenchfags grew up with comics, nobody will judge you if you read a comic, jesus.
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>>100962075
>they're judging you alright.
They do it no matter what you do, it's part of social life. you don't get a special treatment just for reading a manga. You could sleep or eat a sandwich and people will judge you.
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Frenchfag here.
The other day I took the train and in the station there were ads for a simulcast thing, that said "all anime from Japan, one day after release" or something like that. I was quite surprised to see they had done all they could to make it seem not-weeaboo, the sign was just black with a little "charging" wheel in the middle and the text on the bottom. I just hope they don't use this shit to try to stop people from downloading Chinese cartoons for free.

Though honestly anime isn't very popular here, people prefer manga. It's pretty annoying actually, all the people I meet who like manga have bought at least 500 different books but have never seen a single anime that's not a manga adaptation.
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>>100962151
>Why doesn't france have a scanning scene?
Because people buy and keep the industry alive.
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>>100962295
Did you misquote or do you have comprehension problems?
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>>100962295
I agree that their popularity is one of the main reason that manga are so popular in France (along the fact that they always have been huge weeaboos), but that doesn't mean they're viewed the same way.
>>100962340
Yeah, you're right.
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>>100960875
We did have the DVD for Haruhi (the two seasons and the Disappearance), Bakemonogatari and Nisemonogatari.
I don't know why nobody licensed the DVD for Madoka though, we got the movies and are going to get their DVD's as well as the spin-off manga, getting the serie would make sense...

Regarding US anime market being healtier than the french one, isn't just because they are more numerous than us ? Might seems like a stupid assumption I know.
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>>100962367
That's no excuse, you filthy frenchman.
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>>100962351
When I went to Paris I remember a lot of ads and shit about a One Piece big event of some kind, and also I saw they were pretty advanced with the anime in TV.

I know One Piece is normalfag-tier but at least is something compared to other countries.
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>>100962351
Motherfuckers have some taste. Magma > amine
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>>100962406
>but that doesn't mean they're viewed the same way.
I will disagree, kids read Naruto and Asterix altogether. The fact they are sold side by side in any supermarket help to blend the genres and doesn't segregate readers too much.
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>>100962427
There's also the fact we love to see foreigner cry.
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>>100962378
You must be paranoid or have some psychological problems if you think everyone around you judging you everytime.

>>100962506
This.
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>>100962367
How quaint. They actually think they matter.
If France stopped caring about manga and anime, Japan wouldn't even blink its asshole.
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>>100962472
Yes, but it has come to the point where normals actually refer to anime as "manga" as well, completely disregarding the original sense of that word. It's cringeworthy.
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>>100948250

pretty sure the french took to anime a lot earlier
than americans. as in as when it was first
coming out.

we're talking the 80s here.

end of thread
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>>100962452
>with the anime in TV
Oh, right.
Well there are a few public channel that air manga sometimes, like in the middle of the afternoon. Stuff like GTO, Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist, even Kuroshitsuji at one point. Mostly shounen though, and always manga adaptations. And then there are one or two cable channels that really pander to otaku, like Nolife that broadcasts J-Pop stuff and has a simulcast option on their website, or Gameone that airs popular shounen.

>>100962472
Nah man it sucks, I have nobody to talk about Sora no Woto and Trapeze with. And buyfags always think they're superior, fuck them.
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>>100962506
That's true for kids, but adults liking french or belgian comics are way better perceived than manga fans. It's not unusual to see a rich PDG who's really fond of comics and collects them. That doesn't happen with manga.
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The only reason to like france, otherwise they're just pissy neighbors
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>>100962647
>that air manga
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>>100962151
For the same reason we have no decent sub scene outside of our simulcast horde (Dybex, Wakanim, Manga) :
We have almost no japanese translators, and thus a lot of french groups rely on english releases. The only groups directly translating from japanese do a good work, but they take ages between releases.
Plus, english isn't that hard to understand. That's why most french people with a decent powerlevel will just watch the english release rather than wait for the french one.
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>>100962635
It actually started in the late 70s, with Mazinger, Harlock and some others early shows.
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>>100962678
Well I meant anime and you know that perfectly, fuck you.
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>>100962706
J'te pardonne.
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>>100962030
>Also higher prices wouldn't work here because people are less dedicated to their hobbies than in Japan.
Wrong, Kaze usually have a higher pricing than the other publishers and yet sold trucks of F/Z but you can still see a huge amount of people crying over the 45€/season pricing they put on it.

Declic killed or nearly killed almost every other publisher that don't have a nostalgic collection with things like Nadia, Escaflowne, Mazinger,etc to get some real cash going. The generation that watches currently airing anime is really used to get discount-like prices on every show and I can hardly blame them, seriously, I thought I was hallucinating when I saw the BR of Mushishi, Darker than Black, Katanagatari, Casshern Sins, Baccano! being released at 21€.
It will kill slowly any hope of seeing new original anime being published here in the long run (by original here I mean not being a manga adaptation, I count LN as original since we don't have them here).
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>>100962698
>Mazinger
No.
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>>100962684
No, you fucking idiot. Not scanlating, scanning.
Scanning french raws without censorship and putting them online.
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>>100948250
That's pretty cool cafe
10/10 would hang out with. . .oh shit
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>>100962774
They can sue you for that dude.
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>>100962773
My bad,I was thinking about Grendizer.
Anyway, fucking Goldorak sound better
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>>100962773
Grendizer. But Mazinger got a popular run on LaCinquieme iirc.
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>>100962649
That's because middle-aged people are still biased toward manga/anime. And there is this stupid european comic/manga feud that some people try to create, even though most of the young french authors read bot of them.

Also, somehow people become curious when they see middle-aged people reading manga out in the open, it happened with my mother so she wants me to buy her the manga she likes.
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>>100962839
>popular
I don't think so.
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>>100962774
Too much work, we're lazy and we don't care about E-pen enough to waste time and money to please some random schmucks on the Internet.
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>>100962609
>You must be paranoid or have some psychological problems if you think everyone around you judging you everytime.

Except that I said the opposite thing here.
Oh well, if your brain's the problem, I can't do anything about it I guess. Sorry.
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>>100962625
>If France stopped caring about anime, Japan wouldn't even blink its asshole.
No doubt about it.

>If France stopped caring about manga, Japan wouldn't even blink its asshole.
Now that would be a huge problem for some publishers, some manga are even published in France but not in Japan (or way latter) because they have a public here that doesn't exist in Japan, the most known example lately is Prophecy from Tetsuya Tsutsui (Duds Hunt, Reset, etc).
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>>100962684
>We have almost no japanese translators,
This is not true, we have quite a lot of people that are both interest in the hobby and the language.
French fansubs used to be amongst the fastest and best in the world until personal drama killed it overnight.
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>>100956543
>yards to a mile
>not yards to a furlong

Why are Europoors so ignorant?
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>>100962211
>Caring about someone jugding you
I'm French and I once read the Madoka Manga in public, I were in a bus, and nobody looked at me in a weird way, and if they judge me why should I care?
Your life must suck if you care about some unknow opinion about you..
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>>100962898
Seems i went full retard, sorry.
Time to sleep for me, i guess.
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>>100962625
>If France stopped caring about manga and anime, Japan wouldn't even blink its asshole.

considering France alone is like 50% of the profits of their exportation, it would kill them instantly. Many authors are more popular abroad than in Japan as well.
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>>100949161
Trust me you don't want unless you want you ears bleed
Fun story, in the 80's a French TV channel bought a huge number of anime license for a kid TV show. The problem was the didn't realise they take a bunch of anime which were not really for kids, like Hokuto no Ken. The dialogue were consider too violent and the dubber went on strike unless they can re-write the dialogue. The result was complete shit and every line of dialogue was retarded.
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>>100962853
You're totally right. But if such a big part of the population is still biased towards manga, I don't think we should say things like >>100961677
>>100962912
A few fansubs groups were really good, but from what I remember there always have been a majority of shit groups translating from english subs.
>>100962966
But I said I don't care. It's just facts. Learn to read.
>>100962990
Does their manga market really need exports? I don't think so but I'm not an expert so well.
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>>100962647
Gameone is going full MTV these days and will just rerun their 3 anime forever.
Nolife is cute but way too blind in their weeabooism to provide quality content. They are forming a new generation of nostalgiafags and that's really sad because the gloubiboulga generation is already worse than a terminal cancer.
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>>100962814
Really? Doesn't seem to stop the guys form japan.
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I've seen so much English subs now French subs feel weird. It's even worse for hentai translations.
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>>100962774
Why would you do that ? Oh, french comics ?
Well, here is a few reasons :
-Most of them are bigger than A4 format, meaning you'd need big scanner.
-Our comics are at least two times more expensive than manga. There isn't a lot of people who like butchering something that expensive just to share it.
-France's got a lot of huge editor who can rape your shit for fucking with them.
-We usually mind our own business and don't really care about people who might want to read our comics outside of our country.
-Buyfag mindset/guilt.
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>>100959469
Those were better times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-NV7FG3974
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>>100962896
This is why nobody likes the french.
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>>100963089
>French hentai translations
They make me feel uncomfortable
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>>100963147
oui oui stick your baguette in my omelette du fromage
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>>100963089
Same, same. Some girl I know lent me BL manga and it felt unnatural as fuck.
>Vas-y, éjacule...
Like what the fuck, seriously. I never cringed so hard.
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Germany here, french can suck a dick
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>>100963059
>the gloubiboulga generation is already worse than a terminal cancer.
Oh god, my sides. Good one.
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>>100963114
He means France only uncensored manga.
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>>100963139
Don't you worry about that, we love ourselves a lot to compensate.
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>>100963048
>The result was complete shit and every line of dialogue was retarded.
French hokuto no ken is fun and an experience on its own. It's like official parody. Other anime dubs were OK. AB had a problem with SAMEVOICE EVERYWHERE but the talent of the actors were genuine and they cold manage to make even the shitty translation given to them work. I have harder time with more modern and accurate dubs made by untalented actors than the old retarded one made by good guys.
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>>100963183
wow such hate much fear, etc.
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>>100963178
"I'm cumming" is a terribly unsexy phrase in any language.
Even "iku" is terrible.
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>>100963054
>I don't care. It's just facts.
You lost it. you really need some help there. that's a genuine issue you have.
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>>100963089
>french translation on Sadpanda.
Nope nope nope.
I know that feel, I just can't bring myself to read french translations for hentai. Im too used to have english as my lewd language.
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>>100963183
Fuck you Germany, why did you get a Franken-Fran release?
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>>100963183
>Germany
>Telling anyone else to suck a dick
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>>100963054
I know how to read
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>>100948616
>>100960875
Germans buy more manga and anime than France.
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>>100963183
>implying you aren't an American or a Brit
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>>100963183
I'll rub mon baguette against your frankfurter anytime.
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>>100963347
[citation needed]
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Meanwhile the only anime that airs in my country is pokemon
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Don't most Japanese have Paris syndrome though?n
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>>100963183
Toulouse sausage > Frankfurter

Deal with it.
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>>100963261
I think /co/ has posted enough birdface.jpg to prove the world that it's not the translation fault if the original dialogs are also compeltely retarded. Pronography in general sound retarded. Most people wou will fuck in your life will shut the fuck up and concentrate during sex. They won't try a fucking essay on their genital fluid physics.
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>>100963391
Only the ones who actually go to Paris.
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>>100962698
>>100962635
In Italy too. All the Nagai robots and even more.
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>>100963347
>Germans buy more manga and anime than France.
I don't think so. Also, there's not only France, but also all the French-speaking countries like Belgium, Switzerland, Canada, Africa, etc.

>>100963380
It's wrong, see
>>100948772
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>>100963391
>Don't most Japanese have Paris syndrome though?

France is trendy lately, I'm pretty sure everybody has Paris Syndrome at the moment.
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>>100963405
>birdface.jpg
I don't know this one.
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>>100963391
Yeah, some japanese are under the impression that France is full of blonde-haired princes and princesses riding white horses clad in Luis Vitton leatherwork.
Then they discover that it's a normal country.
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>>100963183
Netherlands here, I agree with this fine German gentleman
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>>100963254
What?
>>100963467
You mean they discover it's a shittier country than their own.
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>>100963381
Meanwhile anime is going to be forbidden in my country
Fucking Rusland
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>>100963467
Exactly, there's even psy in Japan specialized in japanese tourists coming back from Paris and traumatized that Paris is not like in their dreams.
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>>100963380
>>100963430
I read an interview from a italian publisher saying that the most economically healthy manga editors are the german ones.
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>>100963462
Threads where you post a line of dialogue from porn with a picture of a bird.
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>>100963440
>lately
France has been trendy for at nearly 1000 years
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>>100963405
>/co/
derp, I meant /a/.
That said /co/ has an interesting thread about how French culture incorporated anime through the "les kassos" general.
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>>100963498
I wonder how the rus fujoshi reacted to the recent homophobic laws in russia, wouldn't BL fall right in that whole "promotion of homosexuality" thing ?
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>>100963507
It's just that they have more money. Germany is more economically healthy than France in general.
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>>100963507
>italian
>talking about germany
that's like second hand second hand infirmation there.
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>>100963546
it got hit hard when Bush went butthurt about Chirac refusal to help in Irak and asked all his media lobbyist to make France ridicule and hated by the whole world instead of just being mocked for harmless stereotypes.
took nearly 10 year to recover.
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>>100963498

No Putin

Why
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>>100963650
He's trying to stop his BL addiction.
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>>100963685
>filename
10/10
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>>100963647
We still haven't recovered from that.
>/pol/tard
>Merrycunts
>English France-bashing articles.

Th...Thanks America.
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>>100963234
>fear
HAHAHA
>>100963278
because jesus loves us
>>100963291
whole europ is sucking our dick already we don't have to tell anyone
>>100963361
>implying
>>100963369
lewd
>>100963403
>not debreziner
sausage pleb detected
>>100963489
french are the worst at least the netherlands can get there shit together
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>>100963584
>>100963587
Panini comics is an italian editor that publishes in Germany and Brasil too, for example.
Of course I meant the most healthiest of Europe.
I know it doesn't have a source and is kind of a generic statement but I can't remember where I've read it, it was this month though.
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>>100958566
>They also want to publish light novels, you can fill a survey here if you can
>http://www.lightnovel.fr/

Voted for DxD, Shinsekai Yaoi, FMP, Maou-sama and Baccano.
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>>100963896
I voted for Horizon but, well, you know.
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>>100963864
lel
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>>100963976
I voted for that too but I consider it a throw-away vote because of exactly what you posted.
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>>100963278
>Germany
>Getting Franken-Fran
With the censorship that country?
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>>100964032
>>100963278
Cry more, Italy gets Franken Fran too.
>>100963976
Whoa, are those LH LNs?
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>>100964086
>K-ON!
>antisémite
That BHL really upset me, thinking everyone, everything is antisemitic.
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>>100964107
>Cry more, Italy gets Franken Fran too.
>Italy
>Relevant
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>>100964149
>Jojo
>Various great super robot shows
>not relevant
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>>100964032
What censorship? The only thing that gets the raters panties in a buch here is unnecessary Nazi imagery, which is stupid in it'w own right, but the US is the only first world country that butchers creative works because MUH SENSITIVITY
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>>100964032
our manga are completely uncensored except Hellsing and Blade of the Immortal because of muh swastikas
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>>100963864
>be friend with a girl from Lorraine.
>get angry while talking on the phone.
>suddenly that accent.

This is just like my manga.
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>>100964237
Je ne comprend pas
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>>100964200
>unnecessary Nazi imagery
>hand rubbing intensify

heh heh heh
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>>100964216
I think that one scene in Narutaru got censored as well over here
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>>100964200
>What censorship
Games for starters, like in C&C Generals where all human characters were changed to robots for reasons. I also think L4D was censored there
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>>100964149
Relevant in what regard? The only thing I know is that I can go to my comic store, pay 6 euro and read Franken Fran while you cry in your dark basement and keep posting "USA USA USA" on an imageboard. Pretty good, don't you think?
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>>100964338
I can go to batoto and read it for free.
Don't even have to get up or clutter my house with books.
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>>100964270
It's a reference to those weird hand movements people from the PS did in their promotion video during the elections.
Yeah, it took a while to sink in for me too.
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>>100963183
don´t listen to this faggot he isn´t German anyway probably, we Germans highly envy you because you have Marie Le Pen, I wish all of you great success in the upcoming europe elections
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>>100964270
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYlKhpWVQ5Y
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>>100964149
>>100964338
Also Italy had anime on public television since the seventies, idiot, it's one of the most weeaboo countries in existence.
>>100964408
I can do that too, genius, I pay to have a physical copy of it.
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>>100964493
Plz /pol/ go.
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>>100964270
je m'appelle baguette
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>>100964493
please stop attracting /pol/ anon
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>>100961761
>France: The only country in the world where you can see Yamatogawa-drawn pussies.

Yamatogawa has been released in English, and uncensored.
Actually, everything from Aqua Bless to Power Play has been released uncensored by now except for the Witchcraft compilation.
Supposedly Project H has acquired those rights as well, though. Icarus had them before, but they went under as we all know.
It's also all available in Italian.

I usually don't do stuff like this, but I'd really like to see these sell. If only to make more like this happen:
Project H (Tayu Tayu, Power Play, Taihen Yoku Dekimashita):
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1624590349/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1624590934/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1624590330/
Aqua Bless from Icarus:
http://www.rightstuf.com/browse/item/80216/4/620/0
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>>100964500
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYlKhpWVQ5Y

Autism intensifies
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>>100964647
The last link didn't work:
http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827/catalogmgr/WlifGYdsZZ7IGXotWu/browse/item/80216/4/620/0
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>>100948546
>consumer of Japanese media.
You don't consume media. Playing a video or reading a book does not use it up.
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>>100964750
I think he meant "customer".
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http://www.amazon.fr/Gun-Musachi-Int%C3%A9grale-Mitsunobu-Ozaki/dp/B001UEJFUQ/
Who cares about Madoka?
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>>100964750
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>>100964311
The crucification? No, it didn't get censored.
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>>100964750
>>100964946
No, it's correct.
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>>100964647
>except for the Witchcraft compilation
So, let me rephrase that:
>France: The only country in the world where you can see Yamatogawa-drawn Sara's pussy.
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>>100964328
You're thinking about Australia, mate
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>>100964946
I don't think so, customer wouldn't really make sense in that context.

It's erroneous to speak of information such as books or videos as being "consumed".
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>>100964970
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>>100965020
no I mean the scene where that one monster inserts worms into that girl and sticks his finger in her pussy to rip her apart from the inside
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>>100965129
No, it's not, stop spreading bullshit.
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>>100965129
>It's erroneous to speak of information such as books or videos as being "consumed".

It's correct to say consumed for anything you pay to use.
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>>100948250
Aha bande de pédéraces jaloux
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>>100963252
I guess it's a lot more off-turning if it's your native language.
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>>100965286
Alors c'est un salut nazi inversé inversé ?
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>>100965286
>>>/int/
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>>100965129
I think English it's not your first language.
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>>100965331
wake up girls défient le système?
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>>100965286
Anelka pls.
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>>100965194
the gore was uncensored as far as I remember, but they added panties to the naked girl and used sound words to cover up the finger inserting
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>>100965286
Bordel, on était en train d'avoir une discussion intéressante là.

Ferme-là à tous jamais and go the fuck back to >>>/pol/
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>>100965382
En plus de sauver l'animation japonaise, Yamakan essaie de sauver la France !
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>>100965286
>inb4 english-speakers talking about the anelka gesture
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>>100965448
Toi t'as pas eu ta quenelle de quinze ce matin?
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>>100965238
Yes, it is. And the same idea can be employed with software. Do you perhaps feel sophisticated for using fashionable economic terms? The economics you're citing however is inappropriate for this situation.

Many people in contemporary society use the term to refer to the purchase of information, although just because many people do or say something does not automatically make it correct. This perverse use of the word can perhaps is derived from ignorance.
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>>100965542
>although just because many people do or say something does not automatically make it correct
In English it does.
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>>100964750

Yes you do, 'Consumer behavior' is a whole discipline and isn't limited to products, but also contains social media etc.
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>>100965516
On est pas dans la merde.
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>>100965688
Another way in which France is superior.
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>>100965542
No, it's correct, it clearly derives from the usage of goods and the fact that the usage consumpts them.
The fact that you refert to non physical goods doesn't change the language.

What verb would you use to describe the "consumption" of art?
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>>100965821
Every language changes with its use.
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>>100965878
>Every language changes with its use.
French only change when changes are approved by an official authority, otherwise the chances are corrected through education and information.
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>>100964107
>Whoa, are those LH LNs?
It's Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon and other Kawakami Minoru works, newfag.
10/10 if you're trolling.
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>>100948250
Because anime was invented in France.
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Puritan faggots ruin everything

I can rip out eyeballs and rip heads clean off with bare hands playing god of war 3 but god forbid if little jimmy sees a titty in any form of media
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>>100969003
Did they censor Ranma or something?
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>>100969041
No

I'm just saying American media censors everything sexual in any way

You can say shit, nigga, and anything else you can think in media of but you will never hear fuck uncensored
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>>100948250
Because the french didn't nuke the japaneses
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>>100969174
>You can say shit, nigga, and anything else you can think in media of but you will never hear fuck uncensored

Is this true? Even if it wasn't said in any sexual way?
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>>100948250
France is the largest market for anime in Europe by a wide margin.
http://www.aja.gr.jp/data/index.php
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France has been sucking Japan's dick since 1867. Anyone who watched La Croisée dans un Labyrinthe Étranger would know that.
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>>100969391
>pic
what is happening there?
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>>100961761
>>100962732
Those GOLD editions are just to make more money. Take Dybex as an example.
They have first their own release at a "normal" price (from 39 to 59€) then 1-2 years later when they have earned enough money from those release, are out of stock or not selling anymore, they make a GOLD/Saphir edition with IDP (Déclic) to give a second life to the show. It makes anime accessible to normalfags. But then there are some editors which only work with those Gold/Saphir releases (Black Box and Wakanim (more like Trashanim) (which stopped working with Declic for an english editor, to earn more money with overpriced-not-worth-the-price boxset.
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>>100948250
>Murica are prudish as fuck, censor shit, and there's licensing problems out the ass
>Us Bonglanders suffer because of it, we only get straight imports of Murica stuff
fokin merryca i swer down ill fukkin dek em



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