Is this retard the most popular LoGH character?
Fuck you. Bittenfeld is the best.
Oberstein > Bittenfeld.
Oberstein's only friend is a dog.
Dogs are good friends.
He's the best because he lived.
The Bittenfeld I know would never defend Oberstein. #RememberWesterland
What did Bittenfield do as a captain?
Oberstein masterrace reporting in
Who /jp/ here
Greatest love story ever told?
Only the cool kids.
Wow! Look at all those dead people!
I just finished this yesterday.
It seemed like the democrats "won", up until doesn't this suggest that the autocratic line will continue for another generation?
You know he is you /a/. Don't delude yourself.
Oberstein is /jp/.
Bittenfeld is /sp/.
Charge at the enemy a lot, I would think. If this idot can become high admiral, there's no reason why Bittenfeld couldn't.
I'm dissapointed that we never get to see Bittenfeld inside a power armor and fight using an axe.
Never told, more like. It's only a few minute, which is a shame.
The greatest love story still belong to Mittenmeyer and his wife, everytime they're together it's absolutely adorable.
It was the best they could hope for, the New Reich is too strong, the only hope is to get changes from within.
Who the HELL are you supposed to be?
Bittenfeld is /a/er than any of the other admirals.
Ovlesser looks like a 70's porn actor
I'm a tripfag feeding on and growing strong from the attention you've been giving me.
Bittenfield a shit
Your mom was a 70's porn actor.
> Mittenmeyer and his wife
He was the best among them all
Guilty as charged. I'm devilishly handsome and voiced by Norio Wakamoto.
How would you rank logh characters in terms of how sad their deaths were?
julian is /ck/
Kazellnu is /adv/
fisher is /r/
Yang is /lit/
Mecklinger is /mu/ or /ic/
Let's be realistic. This guy is /jp/.
Shut up Oberstein, the dead can't speak.
My takeaway is that it's about the cyclical nature of history and the unchanging nature of mankind.
Just as Goldenbaum reached out to the stars and took the world, Reinhard did the same 500 years later. It might be hinting that, like anything in the world, Lohengramm dynasty will not last forever as human beings are inherently ambitious and change is inevitable.
Dude this is a thread for an old anime no need for spoilers
I'm curious about the purple scar on his face, what the hell is that.
>fisher is /r/
But /r/ is never helpful.
Favorite LOGH lines?
3. Bucock and his bread bro
Those are the only death scenes that I can recall in detail, so I guess those 4 Prifo Heentl
Really? I felt more attached to him after he died then when he died. "That" dying was sadder.
The big black one on the side of the video.
After watching Band of Brothers in how everyone looks up to Winters and how everyone knows that Spiers is a badass. You never see him breakdown or show weakness, probably why this scene is so powerful...for me
Yang = Reuenthal >>>>>>> Bucock >>>>>>> Schennkopp > Kircheis > Fahrenheit > Lutz > Reinhard > The rest
Also never forget Ralph Carlsen
>Yang = Reuenthal
Reunthal deserved what he got.
This is probably the first LoGH parody fanart I've seen.
Somehow I lost it, but NiceGuy.png
Isn't that scene extremely brutal?
I know there's one part where you they will just cut away to something else but it then goes on to show all the soldiers on both sides dying horribly.
It wasn't very sad seeing a guy die who had just killed so many people needlessly.
I've already forgotten.
I basically forgot the first half by the time I finished, and I only took a year and a half to watch it. I can't imagine watching it as it came out.
I want the novels to be translated ;_;
That picture would be better....If only Kircheis were here...
>I want the novels to be translated
I heard that the language used in the novels is even harder than normal Japanese, with strange scientific words and such.
Translating it would be hell.
Everything would've been better if he was, just think of your favorite anime series and add him in. Instant improvement.
Maybe if you're an overly rational, petty sociopath.
And this is a show about war. Ultimately they're all killing people needlessly.
That's the one
>Maybe if you're an overly rational, petty sociopath.
No, I think it's generally less sad seeing evil people die. And your point about it being a show about war isn't relevant since it was his decision to needlessly slaughter so many people.
>I only took a year and a half to watch it
Nigger, I watched this shit in three weeks.
It's a long story that I won't talk about, but the "only" was with respect to original release timing.
Reunthal's cause wasn't very sympathetic, but you don't have to agree with a character to find his death powerful.
Mittenmeyer and Reunthal's bro-relationship had had been developed over the past 80 episodes. I think that human element is what makes what makes the death scene both powerful and relate-able.
You don't need to find a death sad to find it powerful.
It was both for me. In many ways, I was sadder for Mittenmeyer than Reunthal, who was prepared to die.
>I think it's generally less sad seeing evil people die
So you're exactly what I called you.
>And your point about it being a show about war isn't relevant since it was his decision to needlessly slaughter so many people.
No one is pointing a gun to any of their heads and forcing them to join the military and take part in the war. And the only one who wants to see the war end and actively works toward it is Yang and later Julian.
Yang was dead, Reinhard needed someone to justify his position, and Reuenthal knew that.
He did Reinhard a favor at the cost of his life, even when he knew the fact that he couldn't really stand in the same pedestal as Yang in terms of skill.
>So you're exactly what I called you.
>No one is pointing a gun to any of their heads and forcing them to join the military and take part in the war.
Are you literally retarded?
Like, seriously, is everything alright in your head?
>And the only one who wants to see the war end and actively works toward it is Yang and later Julian.
This is false.
>He did Reinhard a favor at the cost of his life
At the cost of his life and how many thousands, hundreds of thousands, of soldiers who obviously couldn't just say fuck this and desert?
Thanks. I didn't feel like elaborating since it doesn't seem like you have the basic knowledge to understand anything I say, or that you've watched the show through.
Yes, but the cause still not particularly sympathetic to me. He may have done Reinhard a favor, but it was because Reinhard himself was flawed and loved proving himself in war.
This doesn't make them bad people persay, but it is poor consolation to all the soldiers who died in a civil war driven by ego and pride.
Okay. Since you gave up, I win. I'd rather not have to teach basic morality to a dipshit sociopath anyway.
>Since you gave up, I win.
If I had given up I wouldn't be replying right now to show how mad I am.
And if I were a sociopath I wouldn't be mad.
If you weren't a sociopath, this would have elicited >>100950259 an emotional response from you.
Why are you bringing up the sociopath deal over and over, anyway? Did you have a bad experience as a kid or something? I've already demonstrated I'm not a sociopath, so what you're saying isn't even grasping at straws, it's just grasping at air.
Is there a 4chan board chart for LoGH?
Because there really should be one.
There really shouldn't.
I'll make one if people want it. Just need ideas for which characters should be for each board.
Because from my perspective, you are. And I'm not sure what you're talking about having demonstrated.
>And if I were a sociopath I wouldn't be mad.
Is that what you're referring to? I thought that was a joke. You apparently don't know what a sociopath is. Sociopaths are totally capable of emotions like anger. What sociopaths struggle with is empathy.
/m/ has LoGH threads.
Disregard that last bit, I didn't read the post correctly.
Nigga anta just went full aho.
Sociopath isn't even well defined broski. Stop using the word like it means anything.
I'll spell out a trivial argument for you, although as >>100951260 has pointed out, I have to guess what exactly you mean by sociopath.
>>Yang = Reuenthal
>Reunthal deserved what he got.
This post suggests strongly (that is, implies, in an informal sense; a strong enough "implication" that for the sake of conversation it could be considered an actual implication) that while I was not saddened (I never claimed to be unaffected) by Reuenthal's death, I was by Yang's.
I'm not going to bother writing the rest up, call me if you have any questions.
Go back to sucking dicks or whatever it is you do in your spare time spent not shitposting on 4chan.
Sociopaths aren't totally incapable of empathy, they struggle with it. The fact that you seem to put Reuenthal's actions on a scale and judge if he is worthy of your empathy seems to indicate that you do indeed struggle with it. A normal person just feels.
>I never claimed to be unaffected
There really isn't an appropriate emotion other than sadness for a man waiting to have one last drink with his friend, only to die shortly before his friend arrives. That's about as sad as it gets.
I always loved Yang's faces, he's always worried, bored or just spaghetti about things
It's so cute
Yang is the cutest character.
I'll never get over how ridiculous Kircheis' grave looks
> just spaghetti about things
10/10 anon, would read again.
Bittenfeld vs Walter
Who gonna win?
Moest galactic hero
Bittenfeld vs who?
Bittenfelds a good Admiral, he killed Fahrenheit pretty well
Walter von Schenkopp, Rosenritter commander.
Walter von Schenkop I think..
Even Yang couldn't kill Bittenfeld, no one can kill him
We never saw Bittenfeld in hand to hand combat, did we? Still, I'm betting on Walter, it took almost all of Reinhard's guard to finally take him down.
A fairer fight would be Ovlesser VS Walter.
Bittenfeld isn't a fucking close combat expert or even a fighter at all
>A fairer fight would be Ovlesser VS Walter.
Now this is popcorn material
Who the fuck calls him Walter
Bittenfield is [s4s] because they're both the bes
It was hilarious to see how the FPA was exactly like 'murrika
>caring about the cannon fodder
top lel nobody forced them to become soldiers
I think Bittenfeld is quite a brute, equal to Ovlesser but with more brain.
I'm pretty sure the Empire had drafts
Fork was both hilarious and irritating at the sametime.
Aye, I am so fucking curious how Ovlesser even make it to Fleet Admiral, his only strength seem to be he's good at killing thing with his axe, which doesn't mean that he can command a fleet.
These series... All this talking and talking and talking and everybody is talking it was extremely annoying. Only one character knew when to talk and when to keep his mouth shut - Eisenach. Also he is best admiral since who else could control their fleet without opening their mouth.
Still 100% true
Kircheis was a paragon of idealism and love in a harsh, cold universe
Is he doesn't have a voice actor?
I am surprised when he signal the retreat, no voice come out from his open mouth.
I'm not sure if the brute is the correct characterization for Bittenfeld.
Bittenfeld wasn't as crude or needlessly violent as Ovlesser.
No would characterize Bittenfeld as an intellectual, but he was savvy enough to know of strategy and identify enemy traps. (outside of Yang's, but no one in this series can do that)
Bittenfeld simply knows that he's the best at charging directly and projecting force straight into the enemy. You don't use heavy cavalry to defend positions, and Bittenfeld was aware that his fleet was the equivalent of heavy cavalry, the strongest attackers that could easily crush any other fleet in terms of offensive strength.
Ovlesser was good at using an axe.
He's another person that make me wonder how the hell the Galatic Empire's navy work. It's impossible for him to command his crew without speaking when he started, so what did he do? Does he carry around a notebook and a pencil and then write whatever he want to say?
Lippstadt League pls go and stay go
He fucks his servant boy
Mouth = Fire
Anal = Retreat
LOGH is great but there were some stuff that bothered the fuck out of me. An example: NO BODYGUARDS! Why the fuck an admiral has no bodyguard escorting him at all times? How the fuck can the emperor of the whole galaxy can move on a planet with a 3-car escort? It's like a huge joke.
Yes. Because he likes panties.
They already explained this, Reinhard didn't use bodyguard because he hate all the attention and excess. He just take the bare minimum.
I always saw it the way you would see Hitler riding and walking around with very little protection. The people loved Reinhard so much and the average soldier was loyal to him that he didn't need bodyguards.
Another factor might be the personalities of Reinhard and other admirals.
They are literally throwing themselves into mortal danger everytime they do their job. To succeed at something like that, the admirals probably develop a mix of fatalism and belief in one's immortality from danger. There's also some bravado and machismo that goes into it, not wanting to be protected and coddled like a baby.
Very reasonable responses, glad to hear this information/views.
Srs logh thread is srs
i've got a ton of favorites all of them funny but this is best
Truly a masterpiece of anime.
Aryan also dies.
I want to tenderly love Frederica
His son's aryan too, buttforbrains.
I wish I could watch LoGH for the first time again, I don't have anything good to enjoy right now.
also does the thumbnail on disk for this image look strange?
>Frederica in charge of making sense in general
I bet you haven't even watched the Gaiden
Actually I did, eat shit.
Lazaro Cardenas was a guy that overthrew Mexico's shitty corrupt politicians and changed the government to a more socialist style then previous capitalist style. He made shit tons of enemy, but decided never to have bodyguards around or armored cars. People thought he was the ultimate badass and respected him more for it.
Frederica is a great wife, as soon as Yang was arrested she instantly put on her uniform and go after him.
And she even brought food when he's rescued, amazing.
Who is going to kill the galaxies most revered leader? No one wants to be that guy.
Frederica is the best girl
I bet you haven't even read the manga
>Not having a scat fetish
Well he likes to start wars and fight but at least he knows how to take responsibility
So whats the story behind spike being years in the future?
Attenborough was my favorite
>tfw you will never be in a romantic relationship with Dusty
Sorry, he's taken.
What's with all the insults suddenly? This thread needs more foppery and whim.
Who the HELL are you supposed to be?
Th-That's something Kircheis would say
I am still confused about this. I understand that Mariendorf did love him, but did he love her? Did he just feel attached to her in a way that marriage wouldn't have been bad for him? Why did Mariendorf wait so long to agree to the marriage? Didn't she know for a long time that she loved him? Did she not want to entrap him or something because she knew he didn't really love her?
It isn't, have you even watched the fucking series?
He loved her.
Aw, I thought he's taken by that loli.
More like a Tau soldier, Tau cannot into close quater.
He really loved her, he was always saying stuff like "I can't do anything without you" to her.
But that doesn't answer my other questions. And why does the narrator keep saying he wanted her around as an adviser and not a lover. Reinhard is just too complex a character for me. Reuntal was enough already.
He certainly loved her as a companion, and arguably as a lover. Mariendorf was considerate, and didn't want to pressure the Emperor to marry her just because he was taking responsibility. She wanted him to marry her because he loved her rather than a sense of responsibility.
Of course he did love her. It's spelled out in that episode.
Mariendorf waited because she tought she wasn't worthy of Reinhard, and that just sleeping together once shouldn't weigh in in his decision. Becoming the Empress is something huge after all.
But for Reinhard, fuging meant the expression of real love.
Truly in this area he was a shinjutsu no otoko
Can what counts as love really be universalized?
PS no it can't
PPS he loved her in his own way
Why is he so pleb?
She was his lover, but also the most competent advisor he had. She was more competent than Oberstein in many respects, and can be seen as a spiritual successor to Kircheis in non-military matters.
He wanted her not just because he was fucking her, but because he valued her intelligence and professionalism. So it's not nepotism is basically what the narrator was saying
I just imagined hearing Wakamoto's glorious voice swearing vengeance against moot.
I need to take care of this painful erection now.
Mueller is the exact opposite of Bittenfeld, that's why
This is canon right?
...but not really, right?
Beucock is best death. manly mother fucker
Stop sexualizing my pure husbando you raging ghetto nigger ape
Kircheis just have a thing for blonde, no matter the gender or age.
It's funny how most of the main characters die pretty sad and inglorious deaths, but both Bucock and Merkatz die in combat
Don't talk shit about motherfucking Ironside Muller
Reuenthal would be ashamed.
Most of the Imperial Admirals had pretty cool deaths.
Reuenthal, Kircheis, Fahrenheit, Lutz
Oberstein arguably went out on his own terms too.
Stalin is the only inglorious death I can think of on the Imperial Side.
>and can be seen as a spiritual successor to Kircheis in non-military matters.
This show has so many homosexual undertones.
He really is a social retard. Which makes sense I guess, his genius was always contained in a shell of childishness.
Yeah. Sure thing, I'll just post superior in all ways Bittenfeld.
Original or remastered?
>this is what Bittenfags actually believe
>mfw Bittenfeld killed more Imperial Admirals than the FPA
So, wasted character designs?
Shit it got remastered? Worth the watch?
you have my condolences
Oh, him, yeah, his death was pretty weak compare to other admirals.
Reinhard really fucked up when he sent Stalin to the FPA.
A bunch of old Empire's admiral have cool design, espically the the three high admirals of the Old Empire. A shame they doesn't appear ever again after a while.
No. It's not remastered, it's a case of missing laserdisc scenes or something so they had to redraw scenes for the blu-ray release and it comes off incredibly jarring because they didn't redraw entire episodes so you have art style differences from scene to scene.
Bittenfeld also killed more FPA admirals than anyone else so it evens out.
Fisher for Fahrenheit is a fair trade
>only one except Reinhard and Rudolf to have golden epaulettes
I have a feeling Klasen was a big league player, but simply happened to be too old when shit started going down. Most of the old admirals appeared to be more sensible and recognized Reinhard was the real deal pretty early on.
The ED for season 5 kind of spoiled the Julian/Katerose thing
and my image got eaten
I always find it funny it was Wakamoto's best role ever and since then he's just been cruising does his signature voice.
They're smart enough to avoid the Lippenstadt league. Reinhard should've recruited them to train new generation of officers.
that's probably the best death still shot in the entire series
They were probably too loyal to the old dynasty to be of much use to Reinhard, even if they recognized that he was special.
Most of the highest level officers did seem to know what they were doing, even if there were a lot of idiots below them
>Most of the highest level officers did seem to know what they were doing, even if there were a lot of idiots below them
I have a feeling that was the only reason why Empire's army didn't just fold over, because the higher ups managed to at least maintain the status quo with what they had to work with.
>Most of the highest level officers did seem to know what they were doing, even if there were a lot of idiots below them
That seem to be it, quite the reverse in the Alliance with idiots gaining control of high positions and ordering important decisions.
Wow buddy, let old wounds heal.
Mecklinger is definitely /ic/
I think Julian not participating in hand to hand combat would be better.
We don't sport an ant userbase here, you know.
He didn't fuck up the decision. Remember episode 54 when he said it'd be fine if Stalin failed his mission, to Oberstein?
I remember, but he also show regret when the news about Stalin's death and the situation in the Alliance after that reached him, he said something like the line "Some people can only do their job if he's watching them" and regret sending him.
It sucks that even interested friends are not likely to watch such a long series as logh with you. I just want to rewatch this with somone and see them experience all the things I did.
>tfw friend and I both watched and finished LoGH around the same time as each other
It's kind of a big time commitment. LOGH is something you want to watch mostly in your own time.
Trouble is watching it with others they have different experiences. Like they get excited at the wrong times. And then they want to look at you when something funny happens and share a smile.
Same. We were sort of racing to see who could finish it first (while taking it easy enough to enjoy every minute, of course).
This is pretty much it yeah, I mean I've watched things like Akagi with my dad or anothger firend who showed me FLCL but those are watchable in a weekend, if not a day.
Julian is a capable soldier, much to the lamentation of Yang since he didn't want Julian to be involved.
He's just an excellent learner, I guess. He was already an excellent space pilot to begin with, almost as good as Poplan, he was excellent in fieldwork, which he adapted from Schenkopp, and he can strategize excellently due to his tutelage under Yang, even Merkatz praised him the first time he saw Julian assume full control.
>mfw I convince 2 normalfags to watch LoGH
That's two lifetime achievements I have to cross on my list, but seriously though, LoGH for me is the true barometer of whether someone is really a genuine anime fan, anyone who can't handle watching the whole thing is a fake, and it's conviction I adhere to all too well.
I really don't get upset when some of my gaming friends get all hyped when discussing standard shounen like naruto or something, but it's getting really hard to feign interest.
It surprises me LoGH isn't immensely more popular in the west.
Lin Pao looks like he shits Italian culture
It's confirmed that little shit killed Reinhard right?
He gave him space AIDS
That's why he's the best admiral in the Empire.
For the Alliance side characters, I think Bucock or Nguyen Van Theiu were the best. But Nguyen was way too reckless and got himself killed before he and Bittenfeld could meet on the battlefield.
The content? Yeah, it would be very popular.
The problem is accessibility and getting people to buy into the show.
Let's face it, most people who watch anime aren't going to be interested in this show, and normalfags who would be interested in this show are turned off because (1) it's fucking long, and (2) the stigma around anime
S1 and S2 Frederica is the cutest.
not to mention first few episodes aren't exactly that great for getting people into the show because they take their sweet and are basically just a prelude
Also, it's old as fuck and even for its day it didn't look pretty. It had a ponderous gracefulness to the space combat, but most of it looked like something out of the early 80s. Even if they got the remastered edition, no much would be different.
LoGH doesn't really fit any anime stereotypes though, the length and slow start is the only thing that really prevents people from getting into it
Nguyen is the guy who charge at the enemy and say "This is great!", right?
Don't forget the pacing, the animation, and all the "Earth Historical stereotypes IN SPACE"
search it in your heart for you know it to be true
Yeah, but many people will default to anime stereotypes when they are given an anime recommendation and are unfamiliar with the show itself.
Someone always says in LoGH threads, but it still amazes me it even got made in the first place. And it was released over the course of almost 10 years. Someone REALLY wanted to make a LoGH anime.
Yeah but it didn't make sense.
He sliced a trillion guys open in two and didn't feel shit. The fact that he blew up ships before is irrelevant because it is documented that generally people using artillery-like weapons or shooting at machines do not experience psychological crisises for the absolute majority of the time. For people killing other humans, it's a whole different story.
Julian should then naturally be disposed to be psychopathic, because the training he received, from all we've seen, did not indoctrinate him at all about remorseless murder. But he displays no traits of being a psycho. Just like many Gundam protagonists he does not care at all about killing, which goes to the exact opposite of his full inheritence of Yang's pacifist ideals.
I felt like his combat scenes just stepped out of the general attitude the show had about killing. Since they're not a big part of the overall story it's not that big of a deal, and no show can be 100% perfect anyway, but avoiding at least the ground combat and not making him a pro at everything on top of being a stone cold killer would have made things even better.
Yep. Charges his squadron right into the enemy fleet on Yang's orders and celebrates it.
He also had the kick-ass tiger-striped battleship.
Not sure why but logh held my interest more than old gundams
Well then why dont they remake it and turn all they guys into cute moe generals
So basically the FPA version of Bittenfeld? (minus the maxed out luck)
If we work through the East-West Center to approach the Ministry of Culture and propose the complete remake of LoGH as part of a cultural exchange and national prestige project, as a way of presenting high-brow Japanese anime to the West, and get it funded through a joint venture between NHK, Japanese media companies, and Western import companies, it might be doable.
Here is a prime example of Julian not being a psychopath. He is Aristotle to Socrates in many ways.
or we could just have a kickstarter
I think he only shows up four times in the series, three times in battle, and the last time is when he and another flag officer go chasing after Imperial bait and get caught in a trap before Yang can save them. It was basically an object lesson in the indiscipline and poor training of the FPA's officers.
Nah, but if you go through government/political channels it's much more likely to get it made. Instead of coming off as foreign fans trying to impose their will, it'll be a Japanese product promotion that they'll want to export, rather than leave to rot in their borders.
A lot of the old famous anime are getting highlights done, captain harlock, yamato.
It might be hard to convince them to redo something that's 110 episodes long
it ain't easy bein a pimp
That guy, I wonder how long it took to paint his flagship. Would be fun to see him and Bittenfeld just charge at each other.
inb4 they can't fight because their ships are next to each other and they can't shoot
Well, if they speed up the pacing, we could probably get it down to 84 episodes. And if they take it one season at a time, or we secure enough funding, it should be easier.
Julian is just a weird character in general.
Part of me feels like the reason he got such a prominent role is that the FPA bench was so barebones in the first place.
It was basically Yang and some capable staff officers. None of the staff officers were suitable for actually inheriting Yang's ideals and persuading Reinhard.
Julian was the only one suitable for that role, but the fact that it feels so weird is, I think, testament to how vitally important Yang was.
And that's pretty ironic. Yang, who embodies the spirit of democracy, is pretty much the only man who can assume leadership on his side. Reinhard, who is autocratic, is far more replaceable as a combination of Hilda, Oberstein, and Mittermeyer/Reuenthal could fill his shoes.
They'd ram their ships into each other and start leading boarding parties.
I wish they'd done more with him and the Mauria. It was one of the most unique ships in the series.
Nguyen would probably be hit by a passing asteroid before he could actually fire at Bittenfeld.
The luck of the Bittenfeld is all-consuming.
Kesler was my favourite side character.
I always got the impression that the whole characterization of the FPA officers was to emphasize how they really do need to work in concert in order for everyone's abilities to shine. The various weaknesses are shored up by others, and they can respond to the initiatives their fellow officers in order to form fluid battle plans.
With the Empire, their flag officers are all skilled and proficient, but their coordination and cooperation is poor, which leads to openings that the FPA is able to exploit. Only when united beneath Reinhardt or another great admiral and following their orders can they succeed.
The best character Yang, followed by Reuenthal.
There's a lot you can say about that. One being the kinda... wonky charactersiation in the entire show.
The second is that the latter is just not actually efficient in a military capacity at all and I don't know why the author thinks it is, I guess he's got a passing familiarity at best with it but yeah, the kind of military the Empire is would be far less efficient than the FPA, the war shouldn't have gone on long enough for Reinhard to be BORN, let alone take command.
Third could be for any themes he wanted to slide in but people don't like talking about that and insist that there's definitely nothing other than "fuck terraists lol"
I don't think it was really poor communication or cooperation on their part as much as military culture and rendering achievements through military triumphs so everyone always wanted to handle everything on their own.
Damn you Yang.
The unintended consequences is that the Empire's independent leadership structure cultivates leaders who can succeed Reinhard if necessary.
The FPA's collaborative approach may have shored up everyone's weakness, but it didn't create any clear cut leaders except for Yang
it's because empire has a technological advantage over fpa and is generally stronger economically. problem is that nobility really just wants to maintain the status quo.
Rather than most unique ships in the series, I'd say it's the most unique ships in the Alliance after that three headed battleship.
Bittenfeld must've put all his point into luck, I want to see these characters as an adventuring party. Would be fun to play.
Yeah I agree. While I like the FPA cast, only Yang really stood out much. The Imperial side maybe couldn't whoop Yang even when attacking together, but they had many very capable officers and characters supporting Reinhardt in different areas. Of course, the strength of individual personalities also led to a big number of problems.
>The second is that the latter is just not actually efficient in a military capacity at all and I don't know why the author thinks it is
Because that's how the Three Kingdoms era rolled historically.
And LoGH is similar to RoT3K in a lot of ways. Reinhardt is pretty much Cao Cao in space, only different in character.
The Empire has a technological and resource advantage, being nearly twice the size of the FPA. However, their economy is near-feudal and very weak, and their technological advantage is only due to massive crash programs akin to the Manhattan Project. Their overall use of their resources is very inefficient, whereas the FPA with an efficient system and a powerful free-market economy is able to hold the Empire to a stalemate until the rise of a visionary new leader who can take the Empire and transform it into a proper war machine.
I wish the Earth Cult was handled better, much better. They would have made much more sense as some Theocratic Empire with power that could rival the Empire or something, would have made the occupation of Phezzan something of note as it would have drawn the Earth Empire into a war with the Galactic Empire as they were backing Phezzan. Instead nothing really happens of it, the occupation of Phezzan benefits both the Empire and FPA so it's odd that it was able to remain independent for so long when there is literally no backlash against attacking them.
>empire technological advantage
>main battleship during the start of the war was lesser armed, larger and wasn't as modular as the alliance counterpart.
>the alliance admirals during the start of the war were far better than their imperial counterparts to the point they were like "wow these guys are inexperienced"
>the empire's military doctrine and officer corp and just the way they act is cancerous to good military operation.
I think that was the whole point. It was just some religious nuts getting butt devastated that they aren't as important anymore. It's completely petty in nature.
they would charge down the same boarding tube only to marvel at each others ships paint jobs...
then they would compliment each other while their crews fight it out
They were technologically advanced. Their ships required much less crew and could actually land on planets, for example. I'm pretty sure they also had greater ratio of shields per ship. FPA ships were guns strapped to engines for the most part.
Also, the empire don't win a SINGLE BATTLE for over a hundred years.
Isn't that the opposite of what's said in the series?
For the Empire, while there are a lot of individually capable officers, they're also fairly individualistic. If Reinhardt dies, the entire structure will fall apart and the admirals will descend into warlordism rather than having one of them succeed Reinhardt.
For the FPA, they mention that there are skilled commanders, like Dusty who is said to be on par with the Alliance's great heroes (though he doesn't take the spotlight so we don't see that but none of them have the ability to take on Reinhardt except Yang. And when Yang died, there were successors capable of taking up his mantle, and his organizational structure persisted beneath his successors. However, because it was so dependent on cooperation between commanders, when one of them dies the whole organization is weakened, which doesn't happen to the Imperial structure.
I saw them more as Zionists, but from a narrative perspective they're a fairly weak (and a boring) storytelling element. Especially by the end where they all get killed showed that they weren't really much of a threat as they're supposed to seem as a sort of illuminati.
I guess it might be a comment that the illuminati isn't as powerful as we expect them to be.
>All the bromance on the battlefield
>Sick, sick yaoi doujins
It would've made LoGH so much more popular.
FPA ships were modular, and the only got more so to the point that they had multiple engines and weapon batteries that could power each other if necesary, the empires couldn't do that ever as far as I can recall.
And if they had a tech edge or better shields it blatantly didn't matter considering the alliance couldn't lose if they tried for so long.
Nah, shields were about the same. However, the Empire's lasers were much more powerful than the FPAs. This is why the FPA ships had dozens, whereas the Empire had few enough you could actually count them on screen.
Is there a story associated with the Hyperion? Like, we know Brunhild was a prototype for a new class, but what about the Hyperion?
The modularity of the FPA ships was a major part in their efficiency. Where the Empire has to build each ship according to traditional building techniques, the FPA could mass-produce their warships and quickly recover from losses or produce larger fleets in a shorter period of time. Modularity doesn't lead to a technological advantage, however, due to the need to standardize parts across their fleets, and even contributes a bit to technological stagnation since they devote more resources to churning out the same components very efficiently.
The only story I heard, and it might've been fanon, was that the Hyperion was an older class of battleship that had been relegated to border patrol duties before being reassigned to the 13th Fleet.
Where did you guys get this data about the ships? I don't recall in the show ever mentioning this things.
It makes sense, I always wondered why Reinhard got such a balla ship even when he was a young admiral.
>That tiger stripe, such fierceness could instill fear in the enemy's heart when they see it!
>That blackness, completely hidden his ship from the enemy's sight, an amazing design!
Then they swap colour palette and return home. Amazing.
Because of his sister's connection the Kaiser I would assume, people attribute everything he get to that and not Reinhard's skills.
Empire ships have comparable electron laser counts. Early empire ships had 6 to the alliance's 8, later on it got more bizarre. They just get more poorly armed in comparison and less capable of multiple different types of attack the alliance put more missiles, more railguns, more decoys, the only thing the imperials do get a lead on is putting more broadside weapons on their ships, though they don't fall too far behind in specialised ship variants IIRC.
But Reinhard did die, and his succession is largely hinted to be a successful one. Hilda will assume command of the civil side, while Mittermeyer will lead the military.
Yes, the downside of having many capable leaders is the possibility of a succession crisis, but careful planning (mostly by Oberstein) and capable, respected leaders (Hilda, Mittermeyer) averted that.
FPA had few skilled commanders, but I felt that they were far more limited and less capable of independent command than their Imperial counterparts.
Merkatz was arguably the real successor to Yang in terms of actually overseeing the entire fleet since Julian was more political leader/part time strategist than fleet commander. And arguably the reason for that is because Merkatz had independent fleet commands under the Empire.
Dusty, who built his career in Yang's system, is still more of a talented supporting player even after Yang's death.
Julian was pushed into the role of Yang's successor in part because there were no better candidates. The fact that he was so capable is a small miracle.
Over the years people have translated a bunch of supplementary material and talked about it on 4chan. There's no pastebin for it, and very few links or downloads.
I always attributed Reinhard's ship to a new line model or some special type so it confused me how even though his sister was top slut to the Kaiser I doubt even her god tier blowjob skills would get Reinhard a ship like that. It makes sense now when I consider it an older model.
His succession was only successful because he had an heir.
Remember, Yang's strategy was to kill Reinhard and let the rest of the Imperials fight it out amongst themselves to buy breathing space for the FPA.
Which if anything further emphasises how fucking stupid it is the alliance didn't have total dominance in the war.
Incompetent commanders who are left in place through politics, and venal, corrupt democratic leaders is what we're supposed to believe causes their defeat. Also, people like Andrew Fox or is it Fork? The one who gets used by the Terraists to end the Magician's performance who screw shit up for everyone.
It's only 40 years old, that's not really much, that's perfectly fine to modernise and put on the front lines (which they did)
There was one point during the series where the narrator was comparing Dusty and his skills to the FPA's heroes of legend. It was during one of his trademark "Let's pretend to run away" maneuvers.
Older model? Reinhard's flagship was newly constructed espically for him though.
I'm attributing that to idiotic decisions made in the goverment.
Well, I agree that an autocratic system is inherently more volatile than a democracy.
It's just that in this particular case, Yang was arguably more irreplaceable than Reinhard due to the fact that Reinhard's system had created many capable succesors. While Julian had to pull off a small miracle to pull things together, the Empire's transition was far smoother and less reliant on a 19 year old being a genius.
My original point was that I felt that was ironic, not that one system is inherently superior.
No, the poster you're replying to got confused. The Hyperion is Yang's battleship, the Brunhild is Reinhardt's. The Brunhild is brand-spanking new, the Hyperion is old and busted.
But the alliance command literally considered the imperials novices for a century. This coupled with the imperial's cancerous military culture should have been practically enough to doom them from the start.
How many people fit on an average-sized LoGH battleship anyways? It's hard to get a sense of the sheer scale the battles and wars are being fought at in the show.
The Brunhilde is an experimental ship with a design (that should have been known for centuries considering WE USE IT NOW, fucking slanted armour man) that is designed to deflect beams and a bunch of tech that's not got mass production costs in mind, Hyperion is a modernised older ship, perfectly fine ship, just not as shiney.
600-1500 generally, I think Brunhilde's crew was like 1157 or something like that while Ajex class ships had 1350.
Most ships will gravitate closer to 600
But he never actually commanded an independent fleet on the same scale as his Imperial counterparts.
The Imperial counterparts conducted a lot of independent operations, and while many of them were mixed successes, this gave them the opportunity to learn from these experiences.
Dusty didn't have that experience, because Yang planned all the strategic elements of the operation. Dusty was great as executing the plan, but he never got the opportunity to show what he could do an independent fleet commander.
And I think part of that is that the FPA under Yang had so few ships that they couldn't really have independent fleets. But it's a big "What if".
The narrator is basically a historian trying to look back at the events. His opinion is that Dusty's ability was on par with FPA greats, but Dusty never got the opportunity to be a Bruce Ashbey or Yang and really prove it.
It varied between ships, the Hyperion have about 915 while the Brunhild have 1171.
I would kill to see them do that.
could I have some links? I will take any info I can get.
Prime example as to how she totally feels like Asuka.
Compare it to the American Civil War. The North had overwhelming economic and manpower advantage, but it was squandered for many years by incredibly incapable commanders.
The South could never win in the long run unless it broke the North's will to fight and forced them to surrender since the South lacked the manpower to forcibly subjugate the North. They failed to do so since they fought mostly battles on their own soil, and the two times they advanced to the North, they were beat back both times.
Compare that to LOGH. The Empire and FPA are separated by a far greater distance than the North and the South. It is difficult for the FPA to actually mount an expedition to the Empire and actually do anything meaningful. The Empire is also run by a dictatorship who will never sue for peace, versus a democracy in which the common people can sue for peace.
There's a reason the FPA maintained a defensive strategy for most of 160 years.
What was the name of that one lucky FPA battleship that survived the entire war?
Imagine if Bittenfeld commanded that ship, he would be unstoppable
Considering the Empire's massive hardon for success, it's a small miracle that they weren't killing themselves and fighting civil wars over not being able to DENT the "rebel forces"
The way I understood it, the Alliance vs the Goldenbaum empire basically worked out such that the Alliance had the competence (before Yang they had three notorious "genius" commanders. The Empire had none.) but the Empire had more manpower and a technological edge because their government could just dump cash into the military since they were a tyranny. That's why Empire ships are more luxurious and got all sorts of neat utilities like surfacing capabilities while Alliance ships are clearly utilitarian, a sign that the "lowest bidder" might have factored in when construction contracts were written.
Isterlohn is another proof of the empire's economical edge. They literally built a death star while the Alliance government turned down the same idea because it was hard to justify the investment.
Having an external enemy was probably useful for maintaining internal peace too I guess.
Yeah, only if Yang took the Ulysses to the peace negotiations instead of a dinky cruiser
Did someone else notice that Julian ends up becoming a historian?
>Julian is the Wesley of LOGH
>Julian in his 50's is the Narrator
He should've brought more guards and everything. Hell, he should've brought more than one ship. Three cruisers atleast, and a regiment of Rosenritter instead of five guys.
In the prequel OVA:s its made pretty clear that the war was largely a political distraction. Anniversary coming up? Launch a small scale invasion to distract people from the fact that we've literally accomplished zilch since the last anniversary and our economy is shit.
Yes, but Yang was always an idiot about the today. Great at past and future. Not that brilliant at today.
I like to imagine the narrator is looking back at events from a distant past, kinda like how we look at the Three Kingdoms today.
It adds a bit more poignancy to the very last scene with Felix if the narrator knows that Lohengramm dynasty, like so many others, eventually fell and gave rise to a new regime.
But no one ever suspected that the Earth Cult could do what they did.
An economic edge is nice, but when you genuinely don't have a leg to stand on it doesn't matter.
The empire is only as effective as it is is because the author wants it to be, it has no realistic reason to be that successful. In a military capacity it's culture is similar to arabic countries, and that sort of thinking loses wars even with the tech advantage, hell it has done.
The empire in logh just doesn't work.
>but Dusty never got the opportunity to be a Bruce Ashbey or Yang and really prove it.
Does Dusty ever feel bad he never got the lime light?
> In a military capacity it's culture is similar to arabic countries,
In what way?
Dusty wasn't really an ambitious dude so I doubt it. He made it out of his war alive, which is better than Ashbey or Yang.
I suppose, poor Yang. He should've been alive and retired.
It's not about the Terrarist, it's just standard protection ideas, never send one ship off alone unless it's a scout.
Was anyone else bothered because it was kind of hard to get emotionally invested in the show? It's still really solid and well done, but I'd give it a 9/10 because somehow I felt like there was something missing in the sober narration.
Fuck me, explaining this will be hard partly because it's been a long time since I've read up on this and I've only just noticed it.
The basic gist is there is too much difference between officers and the average solider, they lack things like NCOs and have very class based military structure.
The assassination attempt by the Earth Cult was not part of his calculations.
He knew Reinhard was honorable, he knew Reinhard revered him to the point that he clearly wouldn't want him dead, hence why minimal security.
And besides, most of the Earth Cult members who were part of the assassination party were members of the FPA.
But the crux of this situation is Fork though, if only someone killed that faggot early on.
the Janissary under the Ottoman Empire.
Not Arabian but clearly Islamic.
Does anyone know of ANYWHERE that sells LoGH merchandise? Anything at all?
>powerful soldier aristocracy that makes puppets out of rulers
I don't think that's what the guy meant. As >>100959233 said, I think he's referring to the command structure being too top-heavy, thus not allowing for flexibility or much initiative from the lower ranks. I honestly don't remember any of that being actually depicted within the show though. Did the extra materials stuff actually cover this?
It doesn't need to specify, you can't have the class based system without having that culture happen, it's why the Arab countries all have it and can't get away from it despite the numerous times the American generals have explained the issues to them (egypt several times)
The Russians had a strange situation where they had the kind of top heavy system you're saying... except sometimes they didn't.
>FPA had few skilled commanders, but I felt that they were far more limited and less capable of independent command than their Imperial counterparts.
It's because FPA military command was mired in political games and Yang essentially fought with one had tied behind his back because of nationalistic interests behind the scenes. It's not a stretch to assume that everyone who didn't play along with the party's plan suffered the same problems.
Also the show several times had commanders outright being "NO WE DO THIS MY WAY"
>But the alliance command literally considered the imperials novices for a century.
it's possible this was just propaganda to glorify victories they managed.
Yang Wenli > Anyone else
Nono, this is the words they said pretty much in regards to the imperials attempts to "maneuver" which almost every time got them into a worse situation, the battle of Dagon being a good example of that.
This guy is perfect for /b/.
Well the FPA had that in the very first episode as well, didn't they? I agree with you that it'd be inevitable in an aristocratic society though.
The Janissaries' situation has absolutely nothing to do with what we have in LoGH, not to mention that the Ottomans are not Arabs.
About Oberstein apparently.
JJBA part 5 also had a theatrical play, I think Japan does this sort of thing regularly.
>implying Eisenach wasn't a social beast off-camera
>Oberstein's only friend is a dog.
You're saying that as if you were any different.
You will never go to the LOGH cafe
If you understand Moon.
The Takarazuka Troupe is pretty famous in Japan.
Guys, I accidentally broke my free Stella Artois cup with "Alcohol is Humanity's Friend" engraved on it. I'm pretty upset.
Love LoGH threads. It's the only reason I come to /a/ anymore.
I would be too. I think I'll get a flask with that phrase on it.
Now I'm kinda let down. Expected something the lines of that one Zelda commercial.
That's sad. Makes me wish I was a drinker.
All those Fleet File Collection, I want a table top game involving them. Would be fun, since the fleet would move just fine in a TBS.
How did you break it? Alteast tell me you break it when you receive some terrible news and you throw it on the ground.
I put it in my armrest compartment when I drove across the country and then sorta left it there for a few months... The engraving's still intact, thankfully, just like Yang's legacy after he died. I never drank out of it so it's not a big deal.
THE NARRATOR DID
Yeah, it's fairly clear at as soon as the ruling party in FPA noticed they were about to lose popularity they tried to salvage the situation by sending a fleet to die in Isterlohn because of the off chance that a victory at Isterlohn would make them popular again. Same thing with Amlitzer: "Oh shit, the Peace Party will win the election! Better try to conquer the Empire!"
How is your collection /a/?
I end every day by narrating it just like he would, with some ominous warnings of the future, and mentioning how historians would talk about it.
Well, I'm sorry that it break. Having something like that sound pretty cool.
That damn Narrator, he should've warn Yang.
I want to punch this fucker so hard. Why can't Yang just throw the resignation letter at his face and walk out, then wait until he come crawling and begging before joining back up again.
he was the earth cult all along
it's ogre the cult won
>Why can't Yang just throw the resignation letter at his face and walk out
Why is there no Mittermeyer/Eva doujins? I just want to see them doing cute couple stuff together. Such as hand-holding.
What about hugging?
That's kind of gay.
An acceptable answer, a shame he never get to use them.
>Just Mittermeyer, Eva, and Felix going around doing family thing and being cute
Oh god my heart.
>not /ss/ with Eva and Felix
>tfw Frederica is left out
Daily reminder Reinhard died because he fucked Emil and got space AIDS, that's why Emil wanted to be a doctor too.
Small but I have this
>tfw no non H-doujins of Frederica and Hilda just being good friends and reminiscing about Reinhard and Yang
Allright guys who's your favourite female character no guys allowed
Katerose von kreuzer
Have you got the cute keychains from Amiami?
Oh wait they were also on Amazon. Of course.
>dat feel she the only one to beat Yang and wasn't even a trained commander
Dammit, I want to see more of all the characters.
Charlotte is best girl. Adorable in every scenes.
Goddamnit read the rules.
Not that guy, but I bought both sets of the keychains and I have no regrets. I made a frame for them and they're currently hanging up on my wall. Attenborough is the cutest.
I just wish we'd get some nice scale figures of the main characters but I really doubt that will ever happen.
I wish they had written some actual info text instead of copy pasting random shit. Why are the Japanese so bad at this? Many western TV series actually write flavor text in these cases even if no one will read them.
Sieg Heil Kaiserine
10/10 would get chocolate ice cream with.
Kessler is a lucky motherfucker.
Man that episode where Hilda was about to get murdered by the Earth Cult and set on fire. Fucking Kessler acted so nonchalantly about the entire ordeal it was hilarious.
>"You mean she's on the second floor of the burning building? I'll guess I'll go then"
I got the sets too, I sort of brought it up because I still have the extra four dudes I'd like to do something with because the whole sets are pricey. Wondering if anyone wanted them for Valentine's exchange or something if /a/ organizes anything.
They were all incredibly relaxed about it, I was expecting them to be fucking rushing in to put out the fires with the weight of their bodies if necessary
I'd vote for the re-election of president Greenhill if you get my drift.
try japanese name? or character tags
>Not voting President Truniht
Truly a face that you can trust
he's one of the best Galactic Heroes and got one of the best ends.
>Not voting for President Bittenfeld
Fahrenheit died for this electoral victory
Job Trunicht did nothing wrong.
Fork did nothing wrong.
Rudolf did nothing wrong
also he has a neckbeard.
not a stringy fat guy neck beard but a Nero neckbeard, still a neckbeard
Rubinsky did nothing wrong.
Aside from some blatant terrorist acts, but let bygones be bygones, eh?
that clownshoes motherfucker couldn't admit he was finished. he had to set off bombs when he died, for what purpose?
Literally the closest thing I could find related to LogH doujins
Even in space Jews stay Jews.
>not censoring it with Job saying "This woman has clearly lost her composure"
>or Kircheis "Are you frustrated?"
Give me back my sides asshole
This, they were just standing around the house and kinda watch the fire at work. It was too hilarious.
President Bittenfeld best president, beat the problem to death with an axe.
>Imagining her brother as Kircheis
>Not as Annerose
Bad move there, she could've gain an otome harem.
because no one thought you'd ever get to read that. they didn't foresee higher video resolutions coming.
Please do this, just reading this post make me laugh uncontrollably already.
Even if that was true, there's also shit like this
Lost it with Truniht
alright, that some bullshit. I guess they thought it was funny.
I like how they have a random EL FACIL there to distract people
I'm more curious about what GTO is. Surely it can't be THAT person.
Fucking Truniht, I'm choking on my own drink.
Does anyone have the documents shown during the Earth history lesson?
>all that cock
>Crazy Danc'n Yamada (The King of the Galaxy)
>In 'To Earth', several documents appear on-screen which are apparently meant to describe the 'Sirius Threat'. However, the text is actually an amalgamation of plagiarised contemporary news-paper articles, with certain key words replaced by references to things like Sirius, Rondolina, Canopus, and Earth.
>I was able to locate the original articles that some of these passages were taken from; where applicable, i have added a source link at the end of each paragraph. Most are from 1994 issues of The Economist, which unfortunately does not provide free access to its archives, so there are only excerpts.
fucking died @ Crazy Danc'n Yamada
GiTS also did this, and it was hilarious
>Something to laugh at
I had one of those once, and I almost died.
Does it cause crows to grow inside you?
I'd rather not talk about it.
I think he means he is a cow
That's the one, thank you. I have to go back and read those to find if there's anything funny.
I am the Walrus
There's a transcript of the pages on the loghpedia.
Shut the fuck up, Donny.
>Presidents of the united states- 1
So except for the rosenritter charging in we have Roosevelt and Lennon with space axes?
I want to fuck Oberstein in his boy pussy while his dog watches
Is there some reason why they fight with fucking battleaxes and crossbows when they have laser weapons? Or is it just LoGH being bad at battles?
Phezyr particles makes fired guns explode on the spot, and they usually deploy them in close quarter combat.
Also battleaxes > longswords
Something to do with the technology being so high-tech that laser weapons are jammed in close combat or something , and they can just lay out those Zephyr particles if they don't have any jamming technology and cause them to blow the fuck up if they fire
The laser weapons are probably ineffective against the armor that some of the soldiers wear, so they have to resort to low technology to kill them.
Actually, why don't they just use regular guns?
I'd Zephyr ur mum's particles
Oh, so it really is like Dune.
>tfw no war and peace anime
Nah, LoGH has nothing to do with Dune. Noguns is reserved for close quarters only too.
I fucking hope not, anime Pierre would be so moe that would give me an heart attack.
Please go ahead, just make sure to do it outside the house so I can inherit it reletively intact.
Oh yeah, that's in my class's reading list this year. Should be good.
Attacking is the best defence.
They can't shoot back if they're dead.
But the guy that remain with her it's the true lolicon. Deserting from his military career to take care of a lonely loli in a spaceship
manly as fuck
I hope he and the loli are happy together.
No it isn't. Fischer was as valuable as Yang Wenli himself. Reinhard/Kircheis/Reuenthal + Fischer = instant game over because he can afford to use more mobile tactics.
Fahrenheit was fodder. It was the best fucking deal ever. The only other person besides Yang to have that much value on the FPA side was mother fucking Poplan the Invincible.
Bittenfeld was the Empire's MVP. Defeated Bucock, defeated that guy that looked like Charles Bronson, defeated the guy that could execute Yang's strategies, etc
I dislike how Poplan stop piloting the Spartanians in the later part, it's understandable, but I don't like it.
Poplan was a great character
>alcoholic fighter pilot who's constantly trawling for poon even when he's on Odin, the capital world of the Empire
>wants more adventure after the end of the war, wants to be a pirate/smuggler like Han Solo
I'd love to go basketballing with Mashengo, he seems like a total bro.
And Bittenfeld almost killed Yang in that battle.
the thursday an anon begin a stream of the first 6 chapters of LoGH and there was only 6-8 guys looking at it. It was pretty fun and he promoses another streaming, but not deliver
Man, if I wasn't in finals right now I'd totally do a LoGH marathon, maybe throw in some OVA's.
3 days of homolust and bromance, it would be awesome.
He's a fun character, that's true. I just prefer him piloting rather than being a ground soldier.
Fuck it, I have to watch the Gaiden. I have them sitting on my hardrive for 5 years and still haven't watched them.
Poplan was hacking so he got banned from the piloting servers.
As much as I agree with Bittenfeld's achievements, the Empire's MVP will always be:
Andrew MUH SEIZURE HNNGGG Fork
Bittenfeld comes at a close second though.
Seriously, if the plot didn't cock block him he would have probably killed Reinhard by just flying by and pew pewing. Fuck the Rosen Ritters and Julian's stupid shit, who can stop this guy?
I suppose that's true, he's too overpowered. You'd need a battleship to take him down.
He's the Empire's Ashbey.
You need battleships to take Konev down.
You need fleets to take Poplan down.
Look at this happy couple and tell me Reuental isn't the best
TFW remasterized bitten looks alike
But Konev was taken down by a cruiser.
Such a tsuntsun couple.
You've gotta hand it to Reuental, it ain't easy sticking your dick in crazy and not ending up dead.
But that's exactly what happens.
We don't take kindly to ruse here.
This is why you don't let two tsuns romance each other, it ends up with half the galaxy in turmoil.
NO CORNELIUS LUTZ, MOTHERFUCKERS?
I want more moe Yang.
"Mein kaiser. I'll receive your reprimand in Valhalla, but not until the distant future..."
Bittenfield took the bait but Fahrenheit got snared.
RIP you useless temperature scale, you died with honor.
Fahrenheit was actually one of my favorite characters from the Empire side, felt bad when he died man.
"Alright. Your life. That is my keepsake to you. Survive"
you piece of shit
/r/ing picture of oberstein on all 4s being mounted by his dog with his face in a bowl of dog food saying that one line
What is it a parody if?
you need to get out more
Could Shenkopf be more likeable?
>he will never be your godfather and teach you how to pick up women