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Why hasn't this been adapted into an anime? It seriously more enjoyable then 90% of the shit that comes out nowadays. Also Usami best girl
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Visual Novel adaptations are always trash
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>>100940216
Normally Id agree but White album 2 was pretty damn good. If they just stuck with Usamis route I think itd be a fairly decent anime
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It's extremely mediocre overhyped garbage.
The people who think it's good are the same people who wouldn't know a good VN if it bit them in the ass because they're limited to the pathetic selection of VNs that get translated
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>>100941417
But, that's just like.. your opinion man.
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>>100941417
What would be your idea of a " Good Visual Novel"
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>>100941417
1/10 for effort
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>>100939420
Because it would suck, because its too long and because the main plot twist is pants on head retarded.
It didnt work out in the actual novel and its definitely not going to work out in anime.
The only good twist was the epilogue one and thats it.
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>>100941417
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One of the most crucial twists relies on alot of convenience and unreliable narration/point of view.

It may work in written form, but its hard to transpose into an animu.
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I hate G-Senjou
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Because the main twist of the VN wouldn't work very well in animated form and the best route isn't the canon route so it wouldn't be covered in an adaptation anyways.
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>>100941828
Best girl
best route
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>>100941828
wasn't that main twist that there wasn't a twist?
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>>100941977
The main twist was incredibly shitty
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>>100941977
The main twist is the one that is rubbed all over your face and then they pretend that it is a BIG SURPRISE and a huge PLOT TWIST
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>>100941920
I found her extremely fucking annoying.
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Please kill yourself.
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>>100941920
The first route I went through was Usami's, and by the time it was finished I thought this VN might turn out to be one of my favorites.

Why were all the other routes so terrible?
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>>100942057
>>100942028
You sound like a pair of butthurt kids who couldn't figure out who Maou was before it was revealed.
I won't claim that it was a great twist or anything though.
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>>100942271
I find you extremely fucking annoying
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twist wouldnt work
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>>100942302
>implying
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>>100942329
It was obvious because they tried pushing him as Maou so fucking hard, not only that but his brother conveniently disappears in every other route without any kind of explanation. It was just bad and poorly done
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>>100942329
>Who couldnt figure it out
But it was painfully obvious, they shove it in your face and even give you a flashback arc before the big reveal and then pretend it was a huge surprise.

It was a fun VN but the games before had better twists like Sharin.
And no, that wouldnt work out in anime either.
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>>100939420
Now I can't get the image of a dating simulator where you play a black man trying to score with tsundere KKK members out of my head
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>>100941920
That's not Mizuha.
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The BIG THWIST was dumb and retroactively ruined every other route than the main one.
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>>100941920
No
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Kanon best girl and best route.
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I only read Haru's route.
Is it worth reading other routes?
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>>100939420
It's crap.
A trash tier detective slice of life.
And if DEEN ever adapts it they'll focus on that.
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>>100950935


Kanons is alright. The others are shit.
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So I finished it about a month ago but there was one problem.


Where the fuck was the Yuki route?
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>>100941920
The cutest.
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>>100953148
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The twist ruin this VN for me.
If the twist doesn't exist, this VN surely in my top list.
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>>100953476
The twist made the previous five chapters feel like a waste.
Everything after that was great though.
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>>100953476
>>100953501
Wait. It wasn't obvious from the start that the MC is not Maou??
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>>100953577
The headaches was just too much to not be bullshit.
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People really seem to be just butthurt for no real reason.
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Hands down, everyone.
Also Houzuki is the best Sharin.
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>>100953739
Is this really that good ? I started it a few months ago and got insanely bored. I dropped it at the beginning of Natsumi's arc because she has the personnality of a chair.

Should I pick it up ?
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>>100939420
Because of the chapter 5 twist.

It was so intresting until that point. And then they fucked it all up for no reason.

I guess they just couldn't come up with anything intresting or they didn't have time or something. But it still sucks.

Still I enjoyed it, but I don't want to see an anime. Just because it would be low-budget garbage with lazy directing.
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>>100953819
It's better than G-Senjou.
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>>100953739
>Houzuki
I think you meant Sachi
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>>100953995
>Houzuki
>not the most bro man ever
Did you read his story in bonus cd?
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>>100942329
Of course they didn't figure it out. The first four chapters constantly hint at Kyosuke being Maou and then 5 comes and the writer just says "fuck it" and goes for something totally different. It wasn't until 5 that they start giving hints about the big twist that happens 5 minutes afterwards.

It was the most disappointing you could think of and it just gets predictable from there on out. Think about the possibilities if they had wen't with what they planned at first.
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>>100953819
You just need to skip the unfunny jokes here and there so you get the plot.
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They should just adapt Ever17 into an anime.
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>>100942329
I know that the hint will be wrong but the best conclusion that I could image that MC is Maou.
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>>100953819
No. It's fairly average, a good choice for babbies first VN.
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>>100954202
I never though that VN is supernatural genre.
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>>100954233
>babbies first VN
What's good VN for you?
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>>100954250
Are you shitting me? Tons of VNs have magic asspulls. It's super common for them to be explained away as SCIENCE.
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>>100953819
I played G-Senjou before Shirin and I enjoyed Shirin more. Its a matter of opinion but definitely worth the read
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>>100954277
Mub rub.
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>>100954202

That would be pretty hard seeing as how the VN used the MC's first-person perspective as a major plot element.
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>>100954312
It's definitely the better of the two, but that isn't saying much.
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>>100954280
Yeah, but black winkel thing is quite funny.
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>>100954317
I'm guessing you haven't read Grisaia yet?
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>>100954352
Sad but true. It could have been so much more.
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>>100954387
>Grisaia
Quite a suffering to read the common route.
Makina bad ending is the best by the way.
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>>100953577
Not really. There are some scenes where it feels very clear thy're the same guy.

I mostly remember the scene at MC's house when kanon goes in the shower. Then it switches to Maou talking on the phone or something, and towards the end of the call "a woman" in a shower, goes "could you bring me a towel nii-san" or something like that anyway. And theres a couple more of scenes like that from what I remember.

Plus there's never a moment in ch 1-4 that Maou and MC are acting at the same time. And it's a fact MC every now and then disappears somewhere and comes back with no alibi whatsoever. Then theres the therapy sessions too and everything. It just all makes sense until chapter 5.

It really feels that the big twist was added at the very end for some reason. Maybe it was just time or the writer didn't feel that it could end happily or something. I don't know.
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>>100954350
That's the joke.

>>100954387
Was Grisaia your first VN or something? Over half the routes in the first game can be classified as shit, it's not a good VN.
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>>100954442
I like you
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>>100954317
The extra cover got me to drop that VN then I read the mango and picked it up again.
>>100954350
It will be funny if it's done like Idolmaster 1st episode.
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>>100954462
I'm just used to people spouting shit about how its the best VN out.
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>>100954461
The fact that it is actually so obvious is the biggest clue. You should always be wary of things that are too clear or obvious.
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I love it when Key making action anime not just finish all route to make magic happen.
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>>100954546
I'm assuming you mean mub rub? That's because it is. If we're only talking about translated shit, at least.

>>100954531
They couldn't even do it in first person. Unless they used the same voice for both kids and "Takeshis".
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>>100954653
What if a black screen to tell his dialogue.
Shaft style.
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>>100953577
They hinted a lot that they could be the same guy, they could have done both scenarios if they wanted to, that's how confusing it was.

So no, not really that obvious.
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>>100954711
Honestly, the VN works because you're expecting the voiceless first person MC. It'd be way too suspicious to make an anime in that style, if you're restricted to a first person camera angle then what's the point of making it an anime? Just remake the game with animated sprites.
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>>100954580
I just want to believe ;_;
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>>100954653
Thats right. With any luck if I drink enough I'll forget what Age did to me
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>>100942504
>And no, that wouldnt work out in anime either.
Yes it would. Use a first-person camera. Easy.
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>>100954202
It would work only if they put tons of effort into directing and storyboarding the scenes in a way that meshes the two timelines seamlesly.
Imagine scene where people are talking, and the camera is changing focus on different people. But each focus is actually from different timeline. So it seems everyone is actually there, but they are actually tons of time apart.
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>>100953995
Sachi is the shittest a shit to ever a shit
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>>100954903
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>>100954811
It would be too suspicious.
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>>100954989
Fixed camera angles are hardly suspicious. And she's not even there all the time so they could use other more natural angles at other times. People who don't know what the twist is wouldn't pick up on it; they'd just think of it as odd direction.
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>>100954949
The constant flipping would probably be far too confusing. They'd need to follow the plot of the game roughly, so stick as each MC for half the series.
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>>100954387
The original Grisaia is seriously bad. The common route is entertaining, but the routes were so boring that it became the first VN I've ever dropped.
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>>100955048
>The constant flipping would probably be far too confusing.
Thats why they would have to put godly effort into storyboarding to not make it look confusing.
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>>100955044
Isn't she there the vast majority of the time? You could use camera angles to keep her out of shot without going first person, just have characters glance around the room occasionally.
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>>100954580
But that's like the most amateurish thing ever to do. And you really don't want to believe it happens. Especially since the other possibility is much more intresting.

Then it just happens and you're left with just rage.
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>>100955075
You must be a real pleb. Which ones did you even finish?
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>>100941417
Let me guess, you think good VNs are Clannad and Garisa and Higurashi?
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>>100955199


Nah those are shit. The all time best VN is Maiden rape assault violent semen inferno
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I wish I had a list of all the hints of MC being Maou. But I cant be bothered to read the whole thing again just for that.

But really until chapter 5 theres not even the slightest of evidence to support the theory of Maou being someone else. He knows all the girls names, MC is always out of the picture when he acts, the stuff that happens near Maou are sometimes pretty much identical to MC's. MC has clear motives to act like Maou does. Maou face is shown before the MC's and so on.

I really don't believe for even a second that chapter 5 twist was planned from the start.
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>>100955563
And all of those hints are indirect. There is no direct proof MC is Maou.
Hell, even the whole VN is about Maou manipulating the evidence to make Haru do what he wants.
It should be obvious none of the evidence can be trusted.
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>>100955680
True. But it still really feels that the writer either couldn't be bothered to come up with something good for ch5 if MC was Maou, or he didn't have too much time, or he just wanted to force a happy ending or something. I don't know but it's a shitty twist for sure.
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>>100955563
I honestly thought that MC being Maou was an actual plot point since it was all but stated that the MC was Maou for the first five chapters, thats probably why the twist got me, since I thought there wasn't supposed to be a mystery to Maou's identity for the reader. The whole 'it was just bad headaches and perfect coincidences all along' thing was bullshit though. SnK had a much better twist, but I found G-Senjou to be more enjoyable overall, since SnK had a fair deal of sections where nothing happened. I need to replay both of them some day, knowing the twists.
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>>100941417
>This guy nails it on the third post
>Everyone rushes to defend G-Senjou


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