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Why is Red Saber the best Saber?
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Nero a almost best.
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Tamamo > *
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>>100916269
Purple Saber's better though.
She's bigger, even.
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>>100920225
Jeanne is not a Saber.
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>>100916269
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>>100920146
Why is she such a Whore?
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>>100921682
It's the way she lives.
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>>100921682
Well, she's Roman for one thing, so being a whore is kinda in the job description.
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>>100916269
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>>100921682

Unlike Arturia "I know how to please a man" Pendragon?
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>>100921678
She can be summoned as one though according to an interview with Nasu and Takashi
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>>100921733
Greeks > Romans
Romans were basically worker ants the size and shape of gorillas.
Greeks were actually people
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>>100922307
So can Hercules, that doesn't make him a Saber.
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>>100922307
It's also stated in Extra data book that Nero can be summoned as Ruler class
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>>100922454
>>100922458
Point taken.
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>>100916269
Meido Saber is best Saber.
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A strong enough shield that has enough mana to neutralize the curse of Gae Bolg can stop the thrusted version before it reaches the heart. And no, it's not "It'll still hit the heart anyway, even if blocked" in that case. The cap says "A weapon that cannot be blocked even if you know about it before hand; there are only three ways to stop it. Having great luck, creating a good enough shield to override it's mana, or stop him from using it". The question takes into account the version that can't be blocked even if you know about it and says that a shield will still work if it's good enough.

The idea that the thrown version loses it's "always hit" attribute despite being mentioned in the bio is just a theory for how Archer could have survived the attack considering "No shield could have stopped it" so we just created logic to how it works. Sure it makes sense, but if we take this into account then it's not that it loses the "always hit" attribute at all, but rather Rho Aias was just a strong enough shield to neutralize the curse enough to avoid a fatal blow.

Think about it in depth and get back on this, but don't just go with preconceived notions. Either theory may still hold weight, but the only way to prove one path is to understand both and provide proof why one is not the case.
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But the best Saber isn't even a Saber.
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>>100924409

Saiba a shit.
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>>100925791

Even Enuma Elish can be stopped by charging an equal amount of prana against it, it's a fundament of magic.

Hell, Caster's overwhelming rank A instant-ritual spells were disrupted by Tohsaka's gemstones by the same principle.

It doesn't actually work against the curse of "always hit the heart", it just throws up a clot of static that prevents the curse from even beginning. It's the difference between blocking a bomb blast and disabling the bomb's firing mechanism.
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>>100926680
>Even Enuma Elish can be stopped by charging an equal amount of prana against it, it's a fundament of magic.

Good luck finding something capable of that
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>>100927966

In context that's Gil missing 2/3rds of his total power.
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>>100928072
Nah, Gilgamesh wasn't fully incarnated yet at that point, but that was all of his power going Berserk while trying to reach the Grail.

Also I think Ilya is using Zelretch's move that blew up the moon.
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>>100928253

He still isn't using EA properly in that shot, where is the universe falling down on Illya? he appears to just be using the same setting that he used on Saber and Shirou in F/SN, on a much grander scale
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well, ok, but my dad coud beat up ur dad
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>>100926359
She's Berserker class.
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Best Saber right there.
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>>100928716

I prefer Proto-Gil and Proto-Lancer honestly
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>I will only wear panties personally chosen by Shirou
>I know how to please a man
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should i watch Tsukihime anime to be able to watch this? I enjoyed F/Z
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>>100929159

There is no Tsukihime anime.

Read the Fate/Stay Night and Tsukihime visual novels.

You already fucked up by watching Fate/Zero first. Don't ruin it even more by trying to watch the DEEN anime.
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>>100928540
There's beamspam mode, and then there's Anti-World mode. Anti-World mode returns a fraction of the Earth back to the primordial form of the planet where no life can exist among other things, he calls it something like the gate to hell.

However even sane Gilgamesh would not use that but on the most worthy of opponents. I doubt Berserker Gilgamesh really knows most of the ins and outs there.
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>>100929399
Yes i know the different modes.

My point is that he isn't going all out in that picture even if he is going berserker.
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>>100929394
I played F/SN and then watched Fate/Zero faggot.
Shingetsutan Tsukihime J.C. Staff animation is what i was talking about.
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>>100929579
>Shingetsutan Tsukihime

But Anon, that doesn't exist.
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>>100929579

Then you weren't clear.

And there is no tsukihime anime. Read the VN.
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>>100929579
>Tsukihime J.C. Staff animation
Oh man that would probably be absolute shit if it were real.
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>>100916269

She isnt, but thanks for flagging up your poor taste for us all to see, OP.
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>>100929687
i see how it is
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>>100929579
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Does she have something extra under her skirt?
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>>100930065

a Leotard
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>>100930152
I'm talking anatomically.
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>>100928712
When summoned properly she's Temptress as noted in her bio

It's a class that basically steals from others for itself as a way of life. Not as a source of evil or malice, but just due to it's nature. An attack that steals blood from the opponent to regain life, a move to steal life an attack that steals money that can ruin a local economy; it's just her nature to cause destruction, but that's not really a knock against her.
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Forget the Sabers, Assassin a best.
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>>100931489
I thought that Hassan was the only Assassin?
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I prefer the original
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>>100931609
Only if you want to lose

You can cheat a bit by offering a relic of greater value than the name Hassan and summon someone who can actually fight if you want. Every rule in the grail war can be broken if you happen to know how, and that's one of the easier ones.

You just gotta offer something stronger than the Hassan name as a direct catalyst.
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>>100931609

That only applies to the fyuki grail war
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>>100931609
There's at least one in every series.
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>>100931609
I think that rules only applied in Fuyuki and some small grail wars. Big HGW like in Extra or Apocrypha pretty much screws the Hassan rule because there are not enough Hassan to go by
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>>100931811

legs are way too long for the body
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>>100931811
Hassan gets mentioned in Apocrypha and he won the won in 3 days flat
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>>100922171
That's because she had a cock.

She probably learned lots about dicks from that
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>>100931040
Um...legs? I'm not sure what you're getting at...
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>>100922171
That line is taken out of context!
Out of context!
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>>100931814
There's about twenty-seven Hassan, but it was only the Fuyuki Grail that set up that rule for various reasons there while for Mooncell none of those issues are really a problem there. Reasons like "Well if you're famous and an assassin, then you're bad at your job" came into thought for one thing.
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>>100932159
Taken in context it's pretty much the same...
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>>100932333
Saber meant that the action was something that was easily done. I don't think she was implying that she had experience with the matter.
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Why is there no love for seibah on /a/
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Post more proto-Seibah
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Arturia > Mordred > Nero
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>>100932027
Remember how Saber was once *King* Arthur?
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Second Best Girl right here
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>>100932469
You don't think it was because she was royalty and it would be pretty easy to get a lucky peasant-boy into her bed for a night and finally put to rest all the raging hormones?

Right I forgot. Purity first.
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>>100932748
Is there a Magical Caren-chan?
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>>100932799
She was a virgin before doing it with Shirou

The only time she had done it previously was that time she had a penis and slept with her sister.
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>>100932799
That would be a pretty out of character action, really.
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>>100932469
>I don't think she was implying that she had experience with the matter.

She probably polished her kingly member plenty after Merlin gave it to her
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>>100932799
Remember, Gilgamesh has vagina-sensing powers, and remarks to Saber how she must have recently lost her virginity in Fate.
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I really really wish someone would go through FSN and redo the translation
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>>100932905
>slept with her sister
Even that's iffy because Morgan hexed the cum out of her
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>>100931814
>>100932177

There are 19 Hassans, we have seen 3 of them (Delusional Heartbeat, Delusional Illusion, and Cyber Fantasy).

There are plenty more to use. It's also known that the one with the arm of Shaytaan is not the original Hassan, so there is an original.
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>>100933045
But if she lost it and had Avalon, the wound would heal.

She could have lost it a lot of times
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>>100926359
Its been over a decade since Tsukihime and Arc still hasnt got any good porn

Meanwhile I can probably find enough good shit to tide me over just on the first two pages of the Saber tag in Gelbooru
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>>100932700
I think you have your signs backwards anon. Check your math.
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>>100933218

Arc is too dull for good doujins.
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is there a way of experiencing the characters and story of extra without having to play rock paper scissors in a basement for hours on fucking end?
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>>100933083

Those alternate translations aren't even that much better. They're just more flowery.
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>>100932536
/a/ has no taste, Seiba is best girl.
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>>100933236

I dont think so, secondary-kun
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>>100933213
Being a virgin probably isn't just about having a hymen for Gilgamesh.
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>>100933085
What do you mean?
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>>100933218

There's that one doujin where she practices fellatio on Ciel.
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>>100933389
There was no sex. She extracted the semen without her knowledge.
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>>100933482
Without her knowledge one night in her sleep all night long
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>>100933045

He didn't say that, only she wasn't a virgin. Gil was interested in her emotional breakdown anyway.

>>100932905

Wrong: Saber had Avalon, which heals all wounds, dumbass. We don't know if she was a virgin or simply had her hymen regenerated. She's also there only in spirit materialized.

Seeing her body is broken and pierced by Clarent while her current form isn't, there's absolutely no indication she was a virgin. The only time she's uncomfortable is when Rin and Shirou practically rape her when she's vanishing/dying on a ruin while of the run from Berserker.
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>>100933345
Seiba is a fine girl.

Definitely in the top five TM girls, but Sakura is the best girl.
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>>100933482

That's not canon. Type-Moon Character Material said that Morgan enchanted Arturia, so it wasn't that Arturia "didn't know" so much as "was unaware of what was happening".

She might have done something like cast an illusion over herself to appear as Guinevere, there's no solid statement by Nasu as to how it went down.
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>>100933716
That's Blossom
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>>100933705

Caster says Saber's a pure virgin in UBW. I'm gonna trust the magical witch granddaughter of Helios to be able to sense virgins.
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>>100933705

She was a virgin anon. The game specificly states that she was.

During her life she had no time or inclination for romance. She took the sword from the stone when she was 15 and ruled as a lonely ruler for 10 years until her "death" at Camelan.
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>>100933731

Considering Caster's (and Morgan qualifies for the Class) track of record for perving on Saber, she was probably raped.
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>>100933716
That's Blossom not Sakura.
But you are correct, Blossom is best girl.
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>>100933731
Why did Merlin grant Seiba a seiba?

Was it so she could produce a true heir with Gwen or just for shits.
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>>100933304
Well, It was the only image of it I had on hand.
But I hear there's quite a lot cut out, especially about Shirou's magecraft
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>>100933904
Partially because he knows the future and knows shit is supposed to happen, and partially just to be a dick.
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>>100933904

Merlin was a perverted old man who loved pranks and made the court of King Arthur a place of chaos.
It was never said for sure, but I imagine it was a trick on the all-too-serious King that provided a tragic opportunity for Morgan le Fay.
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>>100933809

Well of course, because Caster is ogling a body with a hymen.

>>100933861

SHIROU says she was. Shirou who also says she never talked to people as a king when she clearly did or smiled which was contradicted in Fate/Zero and Fate/Hollow Ataraxia and UBW where we found out she played games with her knights.

Shirou is an unreliable narrator. Look, dumbass, they even try to sell fucking Nero as a white pure virgin. It's just to scam the retarded waifufags who give a shit over this.
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>>100932892
Spinoff when?
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>>100916269

She isn't.

Sader is, and always will be.

She's king arthur, don't you know?
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>Marvelous AQL is out of business
>Because of this, Rune Factory 4 EU release never
>All hope of a CCC release is gone
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>>100933894
>>100933805
Fuck you, /a/.

Some anon posted that as sakura in a previous thread.

I really need to play CCC to avoid all this shame
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>>100934024
Virginity is more than just a hymen for those mythical types

They know when you're been doing stuff, because they were watching.
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>>100934024

The game specifically says she was.

Just stop, you arnt going to get anywhere trying to spread misinformation and shit. This game as been out far too long for anyone to buy your shit.
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>>100933931

Right, TakaJun was lazy and just gave us the easily-translated ruby text (which is mostly fragmented english) and not the lines of analysis that are what he's thinking at the time.

>>100934024

We have three characters in-universe vouching for Arturia's virginity and it matches her character. The potentiality that she's had sex and had her body repaired by Avalon is possible, but highly improbable.
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>>100934048
This is as close as it'll get.
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>>100934112

She is Sakura, only not Sakura Matou. White (Cherry) Blossom is a more correct way to call her because she's Black Blossom (BB) counterpart.
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>>100934112
It's just that one dude trying to pass them off as the same character to artificially inflate her perceived popularity on /a/.
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>>100933904

For shits and giggles. Thats it.

Merlin was one hell of a troll. He was also a massive pervert in the Nasuverse and half Incubus.
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>>100932892
>Is there a Magical Caren-chan?
http://www.zerochan.net/Magical+Caren
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>>100934112
>I really need to play CCC

It is extremely shit, so I really wouldnt recommend that you so.
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>>100934165

Oh yeah? So why did Caster say she was going to make her lustful but still 'pure' (as keeping he hymen). She was sexually torturing her with magic but didn't penetrate her.

>>100934177

No, Shirou says she is. He's the narrator of the scene. There's no third person perspective to offer this.

Just stop with your denial, waifufag.

>>100934181

...Caster who considers her virgin for her hymen and Shirou who is always wrong? I count two.
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>>100934342
Have you played it? I'd love to, but for the story. The game play is just rock-paper-scissors, isn't it?
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>>100934112
It's not too hard to tell the difference in some ways

Blossom is the one that wears a Nurse coat, and you got her a school uniform as well because you're the first person to ever treat the AI like an actual human. Kind of her entire story is about an AI that breaks down and starts experiencing emotions that she's not supposed to ever feel, human emotions like love which leads her to do some insane things at first but she tries to seperate herself from these emotions, however no matter how she tries to fight it they come back, and eventually the one who isn't human at all ends up expericing something far more human than most humans would. This collection of ones and zeroes wasn't built to understand these conflicting feelings though so she goes through a lot of strife before finally accepting her emotions Saber style at the end of Fate route.
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>>100934271
>He was also a massive pervert in the Nasuverse and half Incubus.

He was also a massive pervert in most legends and too half devil/incubus. Nasuverse Merlin is fairly accurate.
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>>100934432

The story is pretty bad. Not that the setting established in F/E was any good at all because it was shit aswell.

CCC however has the unfortunate trait of taking itself seriously, which is one thing F/E didnt do which worked in its favour.
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>>100934396

Pure is penetration of any sort, not just hymens. You don't seem to understand, in myth (and particularly greek myth), virginity is a magical thing. Medea would definitely know about it.

She was making Saber aroused and.. that's not sex. Are you saying it is?
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>>100934396
>still trying this hard
>ignoring three separate characters opinions
>ignoring her own testimony
>ignoring her backstory entirely

You are going to have to try so much harder than this to convince anyone, shitposter-kun.
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>>100934469

All the myths are pretty accurate except Gilgamesh, really.
Gil is.. half-accurate, it's as if he never really had Enkidu's influence or Enkidu didn't influence him as much as the epic has by the end.
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>>100933353
Making assumptions there guy.
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>>100934568
>Takes itself serious

It's like Ataraxia, it's half comedy with some serious mixed it. Shit takes itself far less serious than Extra in most ways but they try to incorporate some serious plot in as well. Caster still breaks the fourth wall, half the endings are a joke, fan-service out the ass as a joke, Hard Gay references for Archer, I don't see how this unfortunately takes itself seriously.
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>>100934666
>Enkidu didn't influence him as much as the epic has by the end

Gilgamesh never really became a super nice guy, just less of an asshole.

Maybe Sumerians were just really big assholes, so a lesser asshole to them is still a pretty big one to us.
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>>100934666
With the CCC changes his story pretty much reflects the myth now from what I'm seeing.
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>>100934872
and then you have shit like this; each servant has to figure out how to out Elizabeth as a virgin in order to uncover her final secret. Gilgamesh has the bright idea of just taking off all his clothes and saying "Have at it" if you pick him. This doesn't scream a plot that takes itself too serious.
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>>100935188
>those graphics
>that gameplay
Atrocious. I think I'd rather play Fate/Unlimited Codes than that.
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>>100933218
Plant may make a doujin of the Tsuki girls getting railed by Shiki. Dude's planning about making one outside of his Im@s doujins.
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>>100933218
http://exhentai.org/g/604467/52691d9f06/
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>>100935748
Framerate?
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I agree OP, Saber of Red is best Saber.
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>>100936297
Thats not arc you nigger
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I like Saber Pepsi more than I like Saber Coke, but both are great.

My favorite is Tsundere Pepper.
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>>100935188
>that ass
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>>100936676
Who cares about third best girl when you can have actual best girl.
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A man of taste
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>>100934396
Okay, then let's look at it from another way. Saber's character, especially during her ruling years, was the stoic and unapproachable king. She was too occupied with maintaining her army and her kingdom to think about such "useless" matters. She only took Guinevere because it was proper for a king to have a queen.

I mean, her whole character development during Fate was largely as a "machine" who had kept her feelings suppressed to be the proper king. But then the time with Shirou had let her finally learn that being herself is completely okay and to not live like something without any emotion.

So based on her known character, I'd say it's very doubtful that she practiced pleasing men during her time.
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>>100937701
>Posting that ugly gorilla
Anonpls
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>>100937850

>But then the time with Shirou had let her finally learn that being herself is completely okay and to not live like something without any emotion.

Does anyone else note the irony that Shirou himself is a machine that can only pick up on the emotions around him and has very little of his own
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>>100938174
The irony is intentional, that Kiritsugu and Saber kill their emotions to become machines where Shirou and Kotomine are broken machines from the start. (well, not the start for Shirou, but whoever the kid was that died in a fire is gone forever.)
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>>100938389
True on the last point as even Kotomine admits

Kotomine seems to identify the most with HF Shirou overall, as he tried to have it both ways even if it killed him on the inside to go against all that he's known. Just like Kotomine had once tried to have it both ways as it killed him on the inside.
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>>100937701
What the hell is that thing on top?
And why is there a knife pistol?
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>>100938838
Some kind of Bazooka, he became a real gun-nut in his later years. After all his eyesight and natural ability allow him to hit anything perfectly in 4 KM, and using guns tends to help conceal his magecraft or presence from magic types.

It's what his father would have wanted I guess, except for the part where it isn't what he wanted at all.

Check out the various decorations in his room on this page
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Gilgamesh doesn't even need a bed
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>>100939196
>Only Saber has a photo of the MC in her room
Best and most loyal servant, everyone else is a cheap whore
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>>100939196
>Caster kneeling on bed
>Tissues nearby

Welp.
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>>100939007
It don't look like no bazooka to me.
And that thing below it, which I'm guessing is some sort of FAL, looks fucked up too
And the ridiculous mag on the one below it
The SCAR looks ok, a bit blocky though
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>>100939196
>Tamamo
>handkerchief box
Apparently that is part of standard Japanese furnishing.
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>>100939007
>Nero
>FemMC
Confirmed for the more canon OTP.
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>>100940164
Of course it is, every Japanese household must be prepared for the coming of the Japanese Cold
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>>100940266
Tamamo with MC
Nero with FeMC
Archer with FeMC
Gilgamesh with MC

Those tend to work out the best for dynamic, but if it's Gilgamesh then it tends to work even better with True End.
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>>100936540
>incest clone of king of knights
l-lewd...
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>>100939196
>bdsm rope
>tissues

Dutiful and loving waifu.
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>>100940433
Clonecest incest. Yes, this pleases me.
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>>100939007
/k/ would marry Archer, no homo.
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>>100940314
Also, post-coital cleanup
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>>100940646
he's pretty operator
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>>100934024
Fucking shit, alright I'm going to explain this.

So Saber gets summoned as she was when she became a heroic spirit. However, Saber is different from other servants in that she retains memories from other summonings. So among all the masters who summoned the servant Saber, at least one has given her a thorough dicking. However, she was a virgin when she became a heroic spirit, and because of that, she is a virgin, at least physically, when she is summoned, regardless of whether or not she fucked another Master.
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>>100935188
>Gilgamesh has the bright idea of just taking off all his clothes and saying "Have at it" if you pick him
Best servant.
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>>100931609
I honestly thought that that Purple-haired Rider chick would be better suited for assassin.
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>>100942260
Nothing is very stealthy about Best Girl
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>>100934469
>He was also a massive pervert in most legends

Got any references to back up that claim?
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>>100942260
It was just the way she moved in the anime F/SN. It was hot as fuck.
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>>100916269
Why does /a/ like to state silly opinions as fact?
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>>100934666
>All the myths are pretty accurate
I'm still mad.
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>>100944293
Her story is told during Ataraxia, but it mostly lines up there. Before Medusa was the gorgan she was just some girl who was raped and then cursed for being raped.
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>>100944293

What's inaccurate about her? She's not in her monstrous gorgon form because she hasn't used her monstrous strength skill.
Her island was her bloodfort and she petrifies whoever sees her.

She even summons a pegasus by slashing her neck.
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>>100944648
Why are the Greek Gods so shit
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>>100944826

I think he's mad at Zeus or Athena or whoever cursed her for being such a horrible asshat.
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>>100944866
Because they're petty, childish and irresponsible while being immortal and wielding supernatural powers, which means they will inevitably screw up your life for no good reason whatsoever. And this is from the culture that purportedly popularized concepts such as reason.
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>>100947144

Don't forget that the primordial incarnation of reason got chained to a rock and cursed to have his liver eaten out every day forever.

Till the demigod (which basically means HALF-asshole) champion let the guy down at least. In some versions.
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>>100944866

>Be a Greek Goddess
>Oh hey, this apple goes to The Fairest!
>I'll have this mortal decide who The Fairest is!
>WHAT THE FUCK, HE PICKED SOMEONE OTHER THAN ME?
>ZEUS, I DEMAND YOU GENOCIDE HIS ENTIRE FUCKING RACE
>But he doesn't even know he's from that city, he's been living as a orphan halfway across the world his entire life
>DON'T CARE, WIPE OUT EVERYONE WITH EVEN A SINGLE DROP OF HIS GENETIC MATERIAL AND BURN THEM TO THE GROUND AND SALT THE EARTH

And that's how the Trojan War happened.
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>>100948292

Fuck yeah based Kratos!
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The maid of orleans is objectively best seibah
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>>100948471
What are Nero's measurements?
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>>100949560
>B83/W56/H82

Basically titty size goes like this: Jeanne>Nero>Arturia=Mordred
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Another Knight of Round?
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>>100950305
Oh wait, that might just be Arthur
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>>100950285
more like Arturia=Shirou
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Wonder why Horo is a new servant
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A chapter where most of the cast seems to fight over who gets the D, from what I can guess.
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>>100950513
That's from foxtail right? What chapter is that?
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>>100929842
She would make great Saber.
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>>100950444
What's the full picture that this is from?
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>>100941300
Arturia of F/SN and F/Z had never become a full spirit. She was still human.
She had only been summoned twice.
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>>100919947
Now this anon has great tastes but nero is still good but I liked Tammy better.
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I had this funny dream once where some girl, meant to be Nero's voice actor had this small concert and cosplayed to be in character. Shit was fun.



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