That's why they prostituted their male cast instead.
Comfy prostitution is best prostitution
But the -gataris are prettier than the kyoanus girls so who cares.
I am okay with this.
It can't be helped because of the source material SHAFT is tasked to adapt. They actually toned DOWN the fanservice.
what was in the source material? is the LN an ero novel?
thank you based SHAFT
Moe is just a milder form of prostitution. Like hug prostitution, as opposed to sex prostitution.
The pantyshot from kizumonogatari is over 4000 characters long translated into english.
It was necessary.
And didn't they do it to the poor guys in Free?
You're some kinda gayboy if you don't enjoy the soft pink hues of nude SHAFT girls you weirdo
Those are just stupid points. The quantity of moe or fanservice is not determinant of the quality of an anime. In this particular example Monogatari is WAY better than K-ON! Also the whole Kyoany vs SHAFT thing is childish and only sectarian faggots with no personality or nothing more important to stand for fall for it. I enjoy shows from both studios, stop being mindless fanboys.
The guy who writes it has some issues, right? I mean, what the flying duck.
Another thing, Madoka didn't have any fanservice, and that's a SHAFT original.
Kyoani is pure.
They don't whore daughterus...
I like that.
IRC go away
He's just emphasizing how good of a look Araragi got.
Free! killed KyoAnus.
Moe is pornography for people who don't want to read pornography. It's for fat, permavirgin otaku to be able to simulate the feeling of having a daughter or cute girlfriend, without the dirty, shameful, empty feeling that they get after they finish watching hentai. If there were excessive fanservice, it would break the immersion and remind them how pathetic they are.
Moeshit like Keions is filthier and lower than anything else Japan has come out with.
I could probably pay that much for a hug right about now.
I'll hug you anon. For free.
You must have some serious issues if you watch K-On! and get that out of it.
K-ON! did... they used to make legitimately good shows like FMP
for several paragraphs.
where is the copypasta from?
Keion is written for male otaku. It is not written for children. It is not written for adults. It is written for otaku.
Keion is read and watched by otaku. It's not watched by business men or kids on their way to sports practice. It is watched by otaku.
You are a loser otaku. You are not a normal person or teenager. You are trying to defend the series' integrity so you can maintain the fantasy that the series isn't pandering "daughtaru simulator" shit.
That was arguably in much better taste than e.g. Monogatari stuff.
Not that I agree with OP, obviously fucking retarded. (Or rather, baiting.)
Sexual fan-service has its place, moe fan-service has its place, retards who think anime needs "saving" are retards.
What is Haruhi?
Try watching S2E4
I dare you repeat that filth afterwards.
It's just a comfy show about nothing that you can watch while taking it easy. It's like Seinfeld except not funny.
Besides, aren't most fans female anyway?
K-ON was watched by a wide demographic, though, not just otaku.
No. Girls love K-ON!. It even aired on Disney Channel. You are simply trolling at this point, aren't you?
That negro knows what's up.
There's a Nise version of this picture? I didn't even know.
Too bad that KyoAni is just a generic anime studio now.
Monogatari is pretty focused around sexuality, it's not out of place. It's not Shaft's fault.
>Implying the brainless cute appeal isn't the moe's version of brainless sex appeal
If the show has any integrity, why does it have shitty yuripandering?
If the show has any integrity, why are all the girls "pure" and think of boys as dirty and male/female relationships as scandalous, well into their college years?
It's a disgusting otaku fantasy for disgusting otaku, and everyone on /a/ knows this.
>no girls love
You realize that the yuri-goggles meme is based on Mugi.
What does prostituting a character even mean?
Taking advantage of the fact that we like it?
I got no problem with that. On the contrary shows like Kyoani does are tasteless and dont even have the decency of doing us a little service.
I wish there was more anime like DtB
I need more edge in my life
Unlike SHAFT, who just adapted the most generic shit EVER.
Face it, the industry is dead. Trigger is our only hope.
>If the show has any integrity, why are all the girls "pure" and think of boys as dirty and male/female relationships as scandalous, well into their college years?
Literally didn't watch it.
>I'm a retard who can't read please rape my face
Moeshits always try to post old cutesy anime as evidence that moe always existed.
OLD CUTESY ANIME WAS FOR CHILDREN
MODERN MOESHIT IS FOR ADULTS
MOESHIT IS MODERN AND IS THE CANCER KILLING THE INDUSTRY
>moe is killing anime
How exactly are those two points connected? I fail to see a relation.
>never created extra fanservice moments
>turned little elementary school boys into high school boys with an unrealistic amount of muscles
At this point I'm pretty certain you're a troll.
Monster is an underrated masterpiece, though.
Shaft is aniplex's dog. KyoAni chooses to do what they do.
>unrealistic amount of muscles
Put the fork down, anyone could reach ottermode at that age with proper diet and training.
and Keions is the worst type of anime prostitution.
Both Monogatari and Keion are shit. Anime deserves better than pandering garbage. There was a time when people watched anime for the plot, not to supplement their lack of waifus.
>OLD CUTESY ANIME WAS FOR CHILDREN
Even all the cute girls in OVAs?
This. KyoAni may prostitute their characters, but SHAFT prostitutes their characters AND themselves.
7ckng fight me at lan u shit and
Yeah... only that they didn't train for many years.
>There was a time when people watched anime for the plot,
Really? Like when?
>never created extra fanservice moments
Except they did. And ottermode is easily obtainable in under a year if you aren't a hamplanet.
Moe is no killing anime
Moe already killed anime
prove me wrong
Moe is what keeps anime alive, because cool dudes like you refuse to support the industry.
I know how you feeeeeeeeeeel right noooow
[something] you use to caaaaaaaare abooouuut
[I don't know the fucking lyrics]
Moe hasn't killed anime yet, but it's killed /a/.
50% of the threads on /a/ are yurishit generals. It wasn't like this six years ago, three years ago, or even two years ago.
>never created extra fanservice moments
But a lot of it is shaft's creation.
The books tend to go in deep (Hanekawa panty shot, toothbrushing) or not at all (Nadeko gravure shoot, shinobu bath scene were nothing like that in the novel). This goes as far back as bake.
Hitagi naked in the room? Barely described.
Shinobu bandaid? All shaft, not canon.
Nadeko getting raped by snakes? All shaft, it was described nothing like that.
>Moe hasn't killed anime yet, but it's killed /a/.
I think you are right
It didn't have ANY of this, and even if it did
>being on /a/, the gay capitol of the world
>think of boys as dirty
>male/female relationships as scandalous
Neither K-ON or Monogatari are studio originals.
Studios don't actually matter, the individual staff of each show does, and the publishing company that funds it and gets all the profit. The studio is just a middleman between them. If you can't talk about the actual individual creators of each show, and still pursue these "studio wars", you are like a 12 year old on a gamefaqs console war thread.
Wait K-On aired on disney? I never knew that.
Your anger is almost palpable.
This anon gets it
Oh yes, tons of generic episodic mecha toy commercials for kids, what a great intellectual mature era!
KyoAni are their own publisher now and get a higher share of the profit while SHAFT still have to suck Aniplex' cock and are piss-poor.
Shut the fuck up, moefaggot piece of shit. Yuri pandering is a fetish and a means to establish female characters as "pure", because otaku are jealous of men. Their jealousy is so strong, they created the fantasy that a penis makes a girl impure, while love between two girls is pure. This is only because otaku don't get jealous of other girls, seeing as no girl ever NTR'd them in real life.
Fuck off. You're trying to pretend that things in the series weren't there, so you can defend your shitty cancer's image on /a/.
During the arc when they thought whats-her-face had a boyfriend, whats-her-face 2 was like "w-what's so great about hanging around a dirty boy".
>hello, i never watched Gundam even though it's one of the most iconic anime shows ever made
>please rape my face
Yes, that's how they are now, but K-ON is Kadokawa's property so in this case that doesn't matter. And they're doing another Kadokawa LN soon too.
What about the episode when Ritsu lusted for cock?
Who even makes up the studio known as "SHAFT" at this point? If Shinbo doesn't do shit, and they outsource most of their work, then who is it who makes a shaft show a shaft show?
I didn't say Gundam you idiot. Although that was still a toy commercial.
And you can't use one fucking show to defend your "There was a time when people watched anime for the plot" statement. Give me a decade or so, or even a few years, where the majority of all shows were plot-heavy and the majority of fans were focused on plot over anything else.
The -gatari series were written explicitly for Nisio's own enjoyment. They're basically just him masturbating onto the page.
But the Gundam franchise was created primarily to sell toys. You cannot change that fact.
People watch Monogatari for the fanservice?
Monogatari s2 was all about the plot which is why you always had waifufags getting mad their waifu wasn't around for 90% of the season (mostly batfags)
Studios don't actually matter
Staff members from each one go outsource and help around to each other all the time
Dude I have no problem with heterosexual relationships at all. I even watch plenty of anime with heterosexual relationships.
I just finished watching steins;gate and I loved all this heterosexuality! Before that, I watched Clannad! And before that oreimo!
GOD I LOVE HETEROSEX
AND I LOVE GAYSEX TOO! Gaysex is pretty logical in K-On, because, well, the whole light music club consists of girls.
Gaysex is equal to heterosex! They're just as good!
REMEMBER MARTIN LUTHER KING
That's why it was produced, not why it was written.
Well the fanservice is why I picked it up originally, but I stayed for the the characters and SHAFTness of it.
YES YOU! IN MY OFFICE! NOW!
GOD WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WORD WITH YOU!
Is this guy in this thread?
Whatever happened to classy mature anime?
Now that's dedication. Reminds me of the shitsekai yaoi guy.
Man I wish I could make loadsamoney just by wanking. Nisio has it all figured out. He's won at life.
This is the lowest of the low. You're trying to use real world politics to defend your shameless pandering shit.
Yuri in anime is not written for girls. Yuri in anime is not written for lesbians. Yuri in anime is not written for bearded progressives. Yuri in anime is solely written for otaku virgins who are scared and jealous of men. It's written for the type of faggots that burn all their idol CDs when they find out their favorite idol held hands with a boy. Yuri exists in anime to appease the hardcore fans who don't have a girlfriend and are tired of being reminded that there are guys out there that are. They don't want to think of girls as an "impure" existence who desire men, because the otaku know they themselves will never be a recipient of that desire.
>B-B-B-B-BUT K-ON IS PROGRESSIVE! IT WAS CLEARLY WRITTEN FOR HIGH MINDED PEOPLE AND CUTE IRL LESBIANS TO WATCH WITH THEIR IRL WAIFUS!
You're not even fooling yourself.
Is there any other reason?
Plot about charming vampire boy who gets girls left and right is a pretty weak story as premise go.
If not for the varied girls I would not pick it up.
Nise image dumps made me watch Bake but sadly it was not on the same level.
Gundam is shit and everything outside of the UC is a series that is utter garbage too creatively bankrupt to actually break away from a nice safe name and stand on its own.
I appreciate its influence on the industry but it's a beater Model T compared to what came after it. Enjoy your toy commercials that take on an era of pretension in the 90s.
Are you high?
The only people who think it's yuri and yurifags from /u/. They're the same people who insist every anime with female main characters is yuri and throw a shitfit whenever they turn out straight, and I'm getting sick of it. This board needs to be purged of y/u/riscum so we can have actual discussions about lesbians without their bullshit.
Not yuri. In Shakespeare's day all the parts were played by men. Didn't make it gay.
>Yuri in anime is not written for girls. Yuri in anime is not written for lesbians. Yuri in anime is not written for bearded progressives. Yuri in anime is solely written for otaku virgins who are scared and jealous of men.
Yuri all-girl subtext which never gets past blushing and BFF stage is all that.
Real yuri anime almost don't exist, how much is there, 5-10 as main theme, 10-15 with side canon yuri couples?
Don't mistake waifufags wants with yurifags.
Yurifags are mostly beggars from all-girl waifufags table.
>implying straight males can't enjoy lesbians
>implying straight females can't enjoy homos
>implying straight males can't enjoy gay porn
>implying straight females can't enjoy lesbian porn
All roles in Takarazuka theatre are played by women. Does it make it gay or something?