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Complete suffering edition

Last thread: >>100873538
GcUKb19e
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Bad cropping edition also suffices
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>>100901845

Good enough.
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NT9?
More like NTR, amirite?
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>>100902045


No as we are pleased and enticed about the smell.
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>>100901845
>that crop
Truly this is the most suffering of editions
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>>100901845
>still no proper scans from the elevens
>koreans apparently already got there's
Fukou da
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>>100902139
Koreans didn't get scans. That colored image was created with the image that is on BT.
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I want to see a foursome with Touma, Will, Will and Bill.
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How would Othinus break Touma into committing suicide when she asked him to choose an identity in a world where "Kamijou Touma" already exist?
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I wonder how conversations go between Accelerator and Mikoto.
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>>100902148
Everything is part of Crowley's keikaku, even failing.
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>>100902255
It's the groundhogs day dilemma, eventually you try everything and all you want to do is end it
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>>100902240
>Will twice and Bill
Wut
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>>100902255
You mean the scene where she tried to trick him with the picture? She wanted him to question who he was, if he was not Kamijou Touma, then who was he? It's like tricking him into derealization, which can be an extremely unpleasant if you have ever had the misfortune of experiencing it.
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>>100902255
In that world, "Kamijou Touma" was completely convinced that he was the real deal and so did everyone else around him.

What Othinus did was make Touma doubt if he was the real Touma. What if he was just another person altered by Othinus to think he was Touma? I mean, if Othinus can alter the world so that "Kamijou Touma" believes he was the real deal, maybe the one Othinus was talking to was the same.

While he's doubting this, Othinus showed him a picture to goad him into choosing an identity. If Touma chose another person instead of himself, Othinus can just easily lie and say he chose correctly and Touma lives on happily with the lie and the new identity. It was Othinus' way of destroying Touma's sense of identity.

Touma saw through it since Othinus herself said she found it pointless to play around with mindless dolls so the one she's talking to must be the real thing.
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>Will of the Whole Misaka Network
>Will
>Do What Art Thou Will Shall be the Whole of the Law
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>>100902622
No, and no one will stop me from putting huge white spaces in every picture
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>>100902669
>Crowley says he is the Beast
>666=Beast
>NT8 has the shadow of 6 under it
>NT9 has 3 Chapter 6s
>NT9 is an upside down 6
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>>100901845
Forgive my newfaggyness but i only recently got into acceleraildex. What is GcUKb19e
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>>100902716
Incoming NT10.
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>>100902716
>NT8 has the shadow of 6 under it
Fuck, how did I not notice this?
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>>100902779

Reference point for foolz or some shit.
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>>100902779
pastebin link and the way to identify raildex generals in the archives quickly
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>>100902779
It's a bin where people toss all sorts of shit. There is no need to concern yourself about it.
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>>100902716
>The Book of the Law was written on April 8, 9, 10
>NT8, NT9, NT10 is likely a three part novel
>The first Index novel was released on April 10, 2004
>April 10, 2014 is Index's 10 year anniversary
>yfw NT10 will be released on April 10
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Do you think Touma's VA could pull off this scene in the hypothetical case it ever gets animated?

Mikoto's VA did an astounding job in a similar scene.
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>chapter 7 (7/11)
d..damn
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>>100902880
Can't really say until we get there. Atushi does a decent job with Touma I think, it's the anime's writing that sucks.
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>>100902880
raildex has strangely good voice acting
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>>100902779
Angelspeak
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>>100902880

Touma has a decent VA just the JC adaption is the issue.
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>>100902880
>ever get animated
It won't.
I even doubt there will be a S3.
Instead we get more Saten fillers
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>>100903029
ufotable seem like they would do a good job with it
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>>100903029
Really, the two seasons of index were jcstaff saying "ehhhh, it's popular so we will animate it. just make sure it's cheap"
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>>100903029
Though, JC did a very good job with Railgun S.
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>>100903160

Issue is Nagai fucking hated the sister arc and would not do it. Plus i don't want Saten stuffed in my face.
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>>100903083
They probably would, but they're too busy with Nasuverse as of recent to animate anything else.
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>>100903197
But Sisters was the best part of Railgun S
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>>100903140

I think they put their budget to other shows of the season as they knew Index would sell regardless.

>>100903083

We aren't luck enough anon.
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>>100903197
Could you imagine the backlash if they didn't animate it? LITERALLY THE BEST PART OF RAILGUN?
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>>100903140
>>100903248
None of this is how it works.
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>>100903244

Exactly so he had to do it. Don't think he would want to do Index.
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Did Nagai direct all of Railgun S and was just forced to stick by the manga, or did he direct the original episodes only?
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>>100903249
Will Touma tell his pre-memory loss self to drown in his ideals and die?
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>>100903249
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>>100902880
Atsushi Abe is a great fit for Touma and he's done a pretty excellent job. I want to see the whole breakdown and how he goes about doing it. Iuchi Maiko is also fantastic with the OST.
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>>100903369

He did both.
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Looks like Korean guy did another colored illustration. Dunno why he made Will-chan's uniform blue, but whatevs.
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>>100903311
They cut corners like hell with index man
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>>100903369
He did all of it as per-normal for an anime. He just gets the easier end of the stick because he's adapting a manga.
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>>100903346
Who the hell would want Nagai doing Index
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>>100903249
Perfect.
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>>100903444
Okay, now I really want those japs to scan them already.
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>>100903369

So remind me, why did we have anime original episodes for Railgun at all?
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>>100903474
Satenfans, aka people with taste.
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>>100903502

No idea anon. No fucking idea.
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>>100903497
Regular guy probably got arrested or something.
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>>100903444
>text says it is evening
>colored to look like early morning
>blue uniform
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>>100903558
Is Acqua going to save Christmas?
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>>100903502
In the first season there was not enough material from the manga to fill a 2-cours show.
In the second season they went just FULL FUCKING RETARDED.
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>>100903502
Because Saten.
No, really.
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>>100903579
We need Gazing Eye on this shit.
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>>100903249
Is this a deconstruction of the bitch-punching genre?
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>>100903462
They "cut corners" with a lot of their anime. But a lot of factors are in play here, not because they are lazy or trying to save money. Not how it works.
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>>100903502
Because Kamachi blew off Saten in Endymion and Nagai got pissy.
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>>100903624
I thought Original Sin killed him.
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>>100903579
>The sun had completely set and stars twinkled in the sky.
Really?
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>>100903646
No, it's just Kamachi not having a soul.
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>>100903502
Nagai got mad about Nishikiori trolling Saten in the movie, so he decided to get back at him during Railgun S.
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>>100903689
Eh, should be a lot darker than that.
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So who is the first person Touma will run into once he gets out of this place
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>>100903646
kamachi wanted touma to be fallible, to be weak, to be the one needing saving

Then he realized touma had a scrote of steel and set up a boss rush for that Aryan booty
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>>100903785
He'll return to the group of girls that were with him before all of this.
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>>100903785
death
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>>100903785
the front of a passing train
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>>100903444
Do you just hang out on Korean websites waiting for them to post these?
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>>100903931
Nah, it's all by one guy, so I just bookmarked his list of forum posts and checked it when I woke up.
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So if the Will saved Touma does that mean 10032 and the other sisters will have knowledge of his suffering?
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>>100903653
>>100903723
Say what you want, but Nagai is a true man. It doesn't matter if he shit ups all over the source material and the personalities of the characters, he'll do it as long as the honour of his waifu is saved.
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>>100904050
Not sure. All of the experiences of the Sisters are what makes up the Will, but it is unknown if what the Will does and knows outside of it is also shared with the individual clones.
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>>100904054
Except he makes his waifu shit, manga and LN Saten are vastly superior
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>>100904050
If she chooses to divulge that information.
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>>100904154
And that's solely because she barely appears. That ugly twat.
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>>100903474
>Instead of Will-chan, Saten is the one who saves Touma
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>>100904150
>That’s right /return. But /backspace, I’m technically only borrowing her body, so you have no reason to blame yourself over this /return. Still /backspace, we all form a single large will together, so anything I say is the same as hearing it from her /return

Doesn't that mean they all are aware?
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>>100904217
>Implying she won't simply beat up Othinus with her bat
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>>100902601
Attacking Touma's identity is probably one of the quickest ways to break him since he feels insignificant towards his pre-Memory loss.
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>>100904442
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>>100904526

But what is stronger Satan or the Bat itself?
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>>100904583

The bat as it didn't get damaged from hitting a mecha.
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>>100904526
shouldn't it be brown instead of magenta.
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>>100904660
>implying Saten-sama and Bat-kun aren't the most special
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>>100903038
There'll be S3 as soon as JC Staph wants more money
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>>100904781
It's a running joke, anon. Just go with it.
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>>100904802
I'm trying to start a new running jokeplease don't call it le meme

How far do you think S3 of Index will go? Will it stop during/after Britbong land invasion? WWIII conclusion? Will they be decent and spend a justifiable amount of time showing the fights with Acqua and Terra?
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Does the Misaka collection in the series now complete the full spectrum of character personalities and types?
There's now tsundere, kuudere, loli, MILF, yandere and now genki.
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>>100904781
if the team is Hiroshi Nishikiori and Masanao Akahoshi again then I would rather it never be animated

They actively shoot for the bottom
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>>100904899
What I'd like to see is it include some side stories, and then end on volume 16 with Fiamma blowing up the Pope.

That way, Season 4 could go straight on 17-22 and conclude with Touma's "death".
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>>100905001
That would be the best case scenario, but, judging by Index II, they'll probably aim to get to NT volumes by the second half of Season 4
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Daily reminder that Febli > Fremea
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>>100905046
There wasn't much they could do for Season 2. There was literally no good conclusive/cliff hanger point till Academy City Invasion Arc.

>>100904899
Perfect place would be English Civil War arc. That way it adapts the same amount as S1.
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Everything up until WWIII in a 24 episodes season
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>>100905194
>Perfect place would be English Civil War arc.
Or you know, DRAGON Arc.
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>>100903249
Touma had a hard life
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Anyone have the psp patch and junk? It's no longer on mediafire
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>>100905623
The good thing is that it can't get any worse...right?
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>>100905547
S4 to be 1 cour?
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>>100906129
Why would you think that?
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>>100905852
Well, he still has to die about million times.
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Is it fine to skip NT7, doesn't really seem connected to 8 and 9
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>>100906293
You can but you shouldn't, it's pretty good.
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>>100906293
No
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>>100906293
Why would you want to?
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>>100906192
Because I'm not sure WW3 holds up to 1 cour. Even with 3 volumes.
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>>100906293
>skipping one of the most intense moments of Touma suffering until NT9
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>>100906293
That's like skipping volume 15 because it isn't connected to the GRS arc.
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There's some 1984 shit going on in NT9
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>>100907066
>Othinus is watching
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Where is Kazakiri during this? Wouldn't it make sense for her to appear too?
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>>100907928
Floating in space
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>>100907928
She's part of Crowley's attempt to access the pure world, so it actually wouldn't.
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>>100908041
Now I'm imagining Aiwass, Hyouka, and Crowley all floating in the void together.
> "So... anybody up for some cookies? It's my own special recipe."
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>>100908106
Would Crowley still be upside down?
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>>100908200
In a world with no points of reference, he'd find a way.
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>>100908106
>>100908200
Great, now I can't stop imagining the 3 of them floating upside down in the emptiness, playing cards and eating homemade cookies
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>>100908378
You do know what's in Crowley's recipe, right?
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>>100908378
The Age of Horus is nigh
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>>100908446
Lots of love
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>>100908480
Thinking about it, doesn't Thelema count as yet another filter? How is Crowley planning on getting around that?
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>>100908676
Killing God and all his Angels ofc.
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>>100908676
I suppose that is why he abandoned it and started doing science
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>>100908824
He hasn't, though, pretty much everything he's doing now is inspired by his writings in the Book of the Law.
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>>100908887
(Or rather, the things Aiwass dictated to him.)
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>>100903380
Not until he gets Othinus's cape.
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>>100904913
What about onee-san?
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>>100909265
WORST, she's just not the role-model kind. Even though she's technically the youngest sister.
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>feeding pieces of himself to others to stay alive

So othinus used an Index route filter?
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>>100909597
Would you eat a piece of the T?
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>>100909597
Couldn't he just keep cutting his right arm off and regenerating it to create as much food as index needs?
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>>100909908
He would die of bloodloss
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>>100909908

Technically yes, how long does it take to regrow?
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>>100909958
around of minute I would guess
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>>100909958
Seems to vary.

At the end of English Civil War, his broken arm had healed enough that he could swing around again by the time he ran over to Carissa's location, which can't have been more than a few minutes.
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Were Eclipse's subs for Index I accurate?
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>>100910052
There is no good measurement of time for this shit, when his arm got cut off that scene could have been between 1 and 5 minutes
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>>100910179

It's the best subs for S1/
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>>100910179
Is that the one that uses shocker instead of biribiri?
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>>100910291
what about bug zapper
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>>100910291
>>100910391

That's UTW, and they changed it back to Biribiri due to popular demand
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>>100910391
>not Zappy Dan the Magnet Man
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>>100910539
>not Zap n' Fap
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>>100910421
They still troll us over it though.
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>>100910637
>not Thunder King Thunder King
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>>100910421
>>100910658

>and they changed it back to Biribiri due to popular demand

And they changed to back due to them not liking it

>“Biribiri” will still be rendered as “Sparky”. Believe it or not, the UTW staff was unanimous in our decision for this. And honestly, if you really think “Sparky” is in poor taste, allow me to remind you that “Biribiri” means absolutely nothing in English ~~~~ more text that isn't worth copying

>“Fukou da” will still be rendered as “How unlucky”. Frankly, if you were expecting us to copy other sub groups in rendering recurring terms and phrases in the series, then there’s nothing we can do to help you.
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>>100910662
>not Bill Cosby
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>>100910291
>therefore will also mean nothing to, say, someone who has just finished watching season 1 from Eclipse (who used “Shocker” for the same term)
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>>100910684
What a buncha cunts
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>>100910684
Why does Mazui even partner up with them.
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>>100910806
Mazui is kill
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>>100910684
Railgun S had biribiri though. So did Index II, IIRC.
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>>100910684
I typically like UTW, but this is just stupid. Really stupid.
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>>100910684
Sparky aside, the Fukou da part isn't that bad, at least.

I mean, js06 doesn't leave that untranslated either.
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>>100910838
There was a second subtitle track that changed Biribiri to Sparky. Biribiri was the default though.
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>>100910838

Whenever they pair up with Mazui, Mazui demand it to be Biribiri hence the non-batch release of Index 2 and Railgun 2 using Biribiri, not sure about Railgun 1 however i just used Mazui by themselves for that one
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>>100910957

You are forgetting the second sub tracks.
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>>100910858
Well that doesn't bother anyone because it's not a nickname for someone.
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Othinus sure is bitch.
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>>100911163

Still is best girl tied with Will-tan
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>>100911254
Causing this much Touma suffering, nah she's a cunt
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I'm disappoint that there was no UNLOCKING IMAGINE BREAKER'S TRUE POTENTIAL during the loops. Does Kamachi hate power ups?
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>>100911163
And love every bit of it.
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>>100911389

Please, Who doesn't cause Touma to suffer?
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>>100911546
I'm glad he didn't go through some typical shounen anime route. You aren't going to learn actual jackshit about Imagine Breaker till Aleister says so.
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>>100911546
I'd rather it stay as is honestly. Touma is more interesting that way.
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>>100911546
>Does Kamachi hate power ups?
Seeing as he's always nerfing characters left and right, yes.
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>>100911546
I don't know any character who has gotten a general power boost
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>>100911546
Touma hates power ups
remember his fight with Fiamma
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>>100911163
A sexy smelling bitch.
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>>100911978
Add a bunch of explosions and some angry female characters to the background and you have the cover for NT10 right there.
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>>100911898
Etzali. It'll kill him eventually though.
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>>100911978
Something about her design says to me that haimura had full control over what she looks like
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>>100911163
>>100911389
>judging Othinus before she goes full deredere in NT10
Touma will get more love and tenderness one can imagine.
And when he finally will be happy, Othinus will die in his arms.
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>>100912056
Cover needs to be Touma holding Othinus in his arms.
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>>100911546
Touma doesn't need power ups. He learns from his fights, something most shounen mc don't do.

>>100911898
Accelerator winged mode has temporarily a power boost
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I knew NT9 will be full of suffering but damn...
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>>100912166
>Accelerator winged mode has temporarily a power boost
I said general, he is significantly weaker overall than he was before he took chrome to the dome
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>>100911898
Accelerator has only been getting stronger after his brain damage, although after WWIII he's becoming less and less relevant
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>>100912235
other than his timelimit, is Accelerator really weaker now? I know he used to have a great brain but now he can use the processing power of 10000 brains combined, is that really less than what he used to have?
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>>100912118
Note that the actual text never says a word about her outfit being revealing.
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>>100912384
Yeah, he was better than them combined
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>>100912243
Wonder what he and Hamazura are doing while everyone else is trying to stop the end of the world.
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>>100912384
It is. When he first gets the electrode in his brain they say that even with the Sister's help he is still not anywhere near his old level.
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>>100912434
Accelerator is sleeping with the sound off, Hamazura is going to shitty B movies with Saiai
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>>100912384
yes, he was that fucking good. most people forget that pre-tard accel was a complete monster
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Am I the only one that only liked Battle Royale because of Hamazura?
Fuck, he was awesome back then.
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>>100912235
On the other hand, post-bullet Accel fights much more intelligently than pre-bullet.
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>>100912118
Thank god for that.
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>>100912430
>>100912481
>>100912525

fugg, that must have been some brain he had.

But maybe it's because they're not giving the full capacity of those 10000 brains.
Unlike the current railgun arc were all the sisters collapse so every last bit of power can be used to give Mikoto a powerboost.
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>>100912121
>Being deredere makes up for her previous actions
>implying Will-tan isn't the actual best girl right now
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>>100912118
She'd be a loli if that was the case.
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>>100912527
His character was at his peak during the battle against Mugino. Never really liked him as a person though.
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>>100912692
That and Touma accepting her makes up for it.
Will-tan and Othinus are both best girls.
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>>100912692
>>100911254
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I don't see Touma ever properly recovering from this. Even if he returns to his 'normal' world, he'll always have that vision of a perfect world whenever he sees people who weren't so lucky in the 'normal' world.
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>>100912915
That's what he just said, but given the structure of the scene Will is about to snap him out of it.
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Othinus is overrated and right now is built on hype.
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>>100912915
>inb4 Trauma induced memory lose
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>>100912915
>implying another TouMAN won't show up and punch him, thus breaking the twisted illusions on his mind

Fuck, I would pay for this to happen.
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how crazy strong will touma's powers in the final arc be? i'm guessing battler elvel of retarded
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>>100912979
>inb4 Touma will develop a Othinus tulpa once she is kill
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>>100913020

Wouldn't the universe implode with 2 IB existing at once?
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>>100912973
No shit. We're currently waiting for further translation of a new volume where Othinus is the main focus. It was bound to happen. Although Othinusfags are definitely here to stay from now on.
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>>100912915
Will he ever be able to look at Komoe-sensei without remembering her stabbing him to death?
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Just finished part 7 of chapter 7. That was a magnificent breakdown. It hurt to see him breaking down like this.
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>>100913020
Why don't they have Accelerator save Touma this time around?

So they can act even more gay with each other.
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>>100913135
I love it when an author can make me feel the character's pain.
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>>100913135
When I saw that huge block of text, I knew it was going to be great. I could almost see Kamachi smirking as he wrote that.
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>>100913135
He truly is a nice guy. Seeing him break down like that and still care for others was a whole other level in suffering.
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>>100912692
If my Lord and Saviour forgives Othinus, I will forgive her too.
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>>100912973
Just wait for her last confrontation with Touma.
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>>100913267
>>100913286
>>100913325
It was a good break from him being the gallant hero that manages to save the day. When he was saying why didn't she go and create this perfect world on mars or the moon I teared up a bit
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Again, what the fuck is Toumas reasoning for saving Othinus?
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>>100913384
We must follow the TouMAN.
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>>100913450
He would miss her smell otherwise
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>>100912692
Othinus and Will-tan are best, anon. Even Kamachi joked with them being the better replacements for the actual heroines.
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>>100913427
I cried myself, but I also chose some good music for it to help with that.
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>>100913450
Does he need a reason to save someone?
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>>100913450
He's Touma.

It's basically Fiamma all over again, it's not complicated.
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>>100913450
He is TouMAN and she is a girl in danger. What is unclear here?
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>>100913450
She smells nice
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>>100913450
He can't let her die.
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>>100913450
Why wouldn't he save her? She didn't need to die, so he'll protect her because he's the Touman.
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>inb4 HanaKana will voice Othinus on Index V

;.;
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>>100913450
Because it's the right thing to do
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>>100913491
>>100913554
Does she smell like a snowy day?
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>>100913592
She's already Haruue.
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>>100913450
Stockholm Syndrome
Her pheromones are effecting his brain
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Am I missing anything if I skip the novels that were adapted by the anime?
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>>100913427
This is probably one of the few volumes that I'll keep on coming back to read some of the best bits. I have a weakness for getting too emotionally attached to MCs. Its both very sad and fantastic (from literature point of view) to see him like this.
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>>100913662
Yes.
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>>100913613
She smells like Touma's future wife.
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>>100913632
Fug that worthless unimportant bitch.
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>>100913684
Welp, guess I'll take my time and read through all 29 novels.
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>>100913530

This.

The whole Othinus thing is a mix of new girl, masochism and odour fetish.
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So guys, which scene is more depressing?

Touma's despairing speech to Will-chan or Accelerator's complete mental breakdown in volume 20 with Worst?
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>>100913450
At the end of the day, she is a girl in need of a hero. Touma doesn't need a reason to save anyone.
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>>100913525
>>100913530
>>100913549
>>100913554
>>100913557
>>100913559
>>100913611
But she tormented him in a way you couldn't even imagine.
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>>100913778
Touma's. Accelerator's been a mess of ideals, whereas Touma's always been pretty steadfast in what he does.
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>>100913778

Touma, he didn't do anything to deserve that shit.
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>>100913450
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>100913790
And?

Touma seems to consider it more his own fault than anything. Othinus is framing it as just showing Touma a different viewpoint of his own actions.
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>>100913790
she was just misunderstood.
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>>100913450
Because she already stopped trying to hurt others. She gave up and was going to let herself get killed. Touma holds no grudges as long as you stop hurting others, even to the girl who sent him through 10,000 worlds of suffering and death. Accelerator who killed 10k sisters? Fiamma who mind controlled Index and started WW3? Everybody gets a 2nd chance with Touma.

It's what he's always done. Doing anything else would be him being untrue to himself.
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>>100913790
Touma isn't logical.

It's entirely based on faith.
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>>100913790
Touma has amnesia and precognition. The past isn't something he cares about.
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>>100913778
I'd go with Touma, not because of his speech but because

>“I could kill you, but I am sure you have realized the problem with that. You have a way of somehow escaping dangerous situations brought about by external factors. Your inability to die when you should may be the greatest misfortune of all the misfortune you have been constantly exposed to. I can kill you with odds of greater than 99%, but if you want to fill the gap and reach 100%, it would be faster to end your own life."

Accelerator has had more chances to make the right choices. Touma's bad luck has basically let him survive so long only to lead him to this point. For all those who complain that Touma has too much plot armor, well, this is where it got him.
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>>100913790
He reaches to understand how she felt as a god, he sympathizes with her.
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>>100901845
>2014
>Raildex
>not Railroad/Raildacceleraor/ToAru/acceleraildex
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>>100913790
And because she is aware of that, she will do absolutely everything she can to make him happy.
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>>100914064
Raildex is the catchiest one though...
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>>100913790
She smells SUPER nice
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>>100913790
he needs to keep proving to himself there are still heroes left in man
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>>100914064
It'll always be Raildex even if we get more spinoffs.
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>>100913778
Touma. Accelerator deserved his suffering, Touma didn't.
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>>100913790
She the new girl there will always be a bunch bandwagoners that claim shes the best until the next new thing comes along
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>>100914171
>Etzali spin-off
>Tsuchi spin-off
>Saten spin-off
>Thor spin-off
>Hamazura sp-Hah, I can't even finish it, that'll never happen.
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>>100914064
>not One Way Raildex
>not Indegunelator
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>>100914132
But he doesn't believe in heroes.
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>>100914189
She will probably die by the end of NT10, anyway.
TouMAN's wild suffering ride never ends.
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>>100914266
>>100914064
It's Acceleraildex
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>>100914271
because the only true hero is him and he doesn't even realize it
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>>100914302
It can. It will. It has to.

I have to believe anon.
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>>100914266
I like A Certain Magical Railroad the best.
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>>100913790
He saved Fiamma, despite the fact that the guy tried to kill billions of people five minutes earlier.

Touma doesn't operate on logic when it comes to saving people, he never has.
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>>100914189
Butthurt Index/Biribirifag detected.
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>>100914302
Kamachi doesn't straight-out kill returning characters, though. It's just not his thing.

He much prefers to nerf them and toss them aside from when he feels like having them show up. We already know Othinus starts weakening from being a fairy at the end.
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>>100914266
>not Raildeccelerator
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I have a theory that once Kamachi matured, he decided to make NT for the sake of mocking how silly it was for him to write Touma's character the way he is. Just going around saving girls and punching people can sound incredibly stupid when summarised. To make up for it, he'll make a fool of Touma and make him suffer more and more until Touma reaches the conclusion himself.
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>>100914305
>Accel(erator)
>Rail(gun)
>(In)dex
But it's in reverse order, anon!
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>>100914302
I'm still more interested in how this ordeal will affect the other characters currently relevant. I don't really care if She makes it out alive either way.
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>>100914440
Touma has thought his life is ridiculous since the beginning though.
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>>100914440
>Just going around saving girls and punching people can sound incredibly stupid when summarised
But that's cause Touma is crazy.
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>>100914440
He always thought it was silly. But he's not gonna stop doing what he does, anon.
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>>100914392
>Baiting
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>>100914302
>she dies in his arms
>he breaks down crying
>everyone is confused as shit
>final scene of the novel is him on top of a building looking out at the city wondering if it's even real
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why is this anime so bad? i watching many episode of season one of rail gun and it was only small ladies doing small ladies stuff also there was a guy called satan
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>>100914246
I want a bunnygirl spinoff
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Touma is not living his life correctly.
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>>100914580
Oh Croatia
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>>100914555
>Implying this didn't happen as well with Lessar in WWIII and Birdway in NT1
It's not baiting if there are precedents.
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>>100914623
That's a paradox right there.
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>NT9 will never be animated
>even if it was the studio couldn't do it justice
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>>100914440
But there actually isn't anything wrong with what Touma does. It's not like he saves people who are going to revert into trying to kill him.
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>>100914480
We use raildex anyways
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>>100914580
>Guy
I like you anon.

Anyways yeah, the Railgun anime is awful, except for the Sister's Arc. Stick to the manga.

And even then the manga is superior...
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What studio could have made a perfect Index adaptation?
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>>100914580
>also there was a guy called satan
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>>100914693
>Rant scene outsourced to Shaft
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>>100914693
They could the scene would be all up to the VAs and they are pretty dam good
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>>100914693
SHAFT with money could.
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>>100914623
Even if he's not living his life correctly and he's being self-destructive, isn't it fine as long as he continues saving people?
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>>100914649
Don't forget Itsuwa.

Kamachi already has.
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>>100914693
>JC Staff will never put scratch-n-sniff material over Othinus's portrait on the BD covers
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>>100914490
>will affect the other characters currently relevant.

I couldn't really care less about other characters, I read NT for the TouMAN and TouMAN alone.
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>>100914440
Touma is just a more reasonable shirou
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>>100914738
Holy shit, that's the manga?
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>>100914743
Ufotable? Sunrise?
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>>100914764
>>100914773
Only SHAFT could do justice to Othinus's sweet, sweet aroma
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>>100914738
Anime was worth it for the ost and ITEM/Bridge scene
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESKga2SMlss
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>>100914790
She's getting raped by lesbians in prison anon.
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>>100914859
i want le shaft face othinus
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>>100914266
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>>100914836
Yep, they even have Misaki getting what's coming to her
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>>100914748
Saten is the best.
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>>100914836
Anon the Railgun manga is full of GAR and has great art get on it
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>>100914836
Yes, Fukuyawa is based.

Basically it goes LN>Railgun Manga>Index Anime>Railgun Anime>Index Manga (cept for the art)
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>>100914836
Yeah, way superior to the anime.
Really, don't watch the anime. It is a waste of time, unless you're soundtrack fetishist or something.
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Did anyone update the Toaru universe timeline image to show how broken Railgun S timeline is?
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>>100914906
In a perfect world, Accelerator gets the original, original's mother's, 20,000 clones', WORST's, and Last Order's asses. How can Touma take that away from him?
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>>100914946
Gotta work Accel in there now.
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>>100914874
This music made me think of TouMAN's rant.
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>>100914946
The pacing of the index manga feels off and it feels like the artist doesn't get enough info on what he should be drawing
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>>100914922
>>100914948
>>100914946
>>100914971

I need to start reading it, thanks.
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>>100915054
The Index Manga cut out 2 whole arcs, so that probably explains the pacing issues.
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Touma sure is lucky to be liked by most, if not all the regular novelfans in /a/.
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>>100915117
With how relevant Izzard and Himegami are, I'm really not surprised that got cut.
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>>100915024
Does his dick work in a perfect world?
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>>100915024
What good are asses if you don't have a dick?
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>>100915117
You can blame the editor for that, he didn't want any part of that shit because it would kill the flow even worse than it already had

Really the index manga suffers from the laughably weak start the LNs hand
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>>100915157
They weren't the important part of that arc though, that arc was supposed to cement Touma's new post-memory loss self.

The anime basically ignored that and the manga just straight up skipped it though.
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>>100915157
>cutting out Deep Blood arc

HAHAHA
Can't blame them on that one. That arc was completely useless.
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>>100915221
Angel Fall is pretty damn important later though.
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>>100915150
When people say they don't like Touma they are usually from /u/ or pic related
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>>100915273
It's one of the more fun arcs though. Especially in the LN where touma goes berserk and student get turned into gold.
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>>100915273
Holy shit, when I was watching the anime everytime Himegami would appear I would groan. She was forcefully put in there so we wouldn't forget she existed, yet SHE DIDN'T MATTER AT ALL. AT ALL.
She's even more useless than Index.
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>>100915273
Fuck no. The fights were great.
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>>100915273
It would have been nice to see the dragon arm though, the index author does some amazing art when it isn't a person
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>>100915298
>they are usually from /u/

How foolish of them.
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>>100915398
Seriously.
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>>100915273
The Izzard homunculus was pretty cool.
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>>100915496
as a comparison, this is how accel looks
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>>100915005
Anyone? This is the only one I got.
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>>100915496
>>100915576
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>>100915398
He does do some pretty wacky faces though
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>>100914934
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>>100915345
>>100915389
Yeah, but it served no real great purpose.
It was basically filler, as nice as it was.

>>100915380
Agreed, never liked her character. I wish they would just put her in an eternal bus trip to make her disappear. Every panel/scene with her is a wasted effort.
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>>100915453
This reminds me of Guillotine Cutter saying the same thing in Kizumonogatari after he took Hanekawa hostage.
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>>100915670
He just seems so disinterested in drawing people, he also has a habit of making giant hair
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>>100915670
Those faces, what the fuck?
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>>100915789
He isn't consistent with heads
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>>100915789
They are kinda corny, aren't they?
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>>100915762
Now that I think about it, I want to see his rendition of an angel
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>>100915670
Accelerator kind of has a frog face thing going on there
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Why didn't Touman just punch himself?
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>>100915496
Friendly reminder that the reason he still draws the manga is that kamachi got a massive stiffy when he saw this
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>>100914859
>>100914764
>>100914773
Yeah, Shaft is perfect for NT9.
>sterility of perfect world
>The Green Mile
>shots of Othinus's hair, lips, heels, hands, thighs, knees, collar bones, [add your part]
>Othinus head tilt
>Misaka Mayoi
>[RED SCREEN], [BLOOD], etc for gore and dark world scene
>Part 6: It bothers me screen
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>>100915273
It's also pretty fucking ironic, since the manga author's favorite character is Himegami.
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>>100916109
He's living his life correctly though. It's the world that's changed, not him.
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>>100915789
Draws a decent Mikoto at least.
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>>100914874
The follow-up was epic, as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqL81MOYyhg

Holy fuck the TouMAN's awesome.
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>>100916215
Why didn't he punch the world?
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>>100916189
>since the manga author's favorite character is Himegami.

I can only think he likes her design or some shit.
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>>100913790
Touma only does what he thinks is right. Not because its good or evil and Othinus was eventually the broken one that needed saving and protection. Every reason to support him and not hate her.
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>>100916189
He must have really enjoyed drawing her getting blown up.
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>>100915496

Based Innocentius

>Manga currently in Daihaseisai arc
>After that comes Boat arc
>Then AC invasion arc

Ad then maybe, maybe, we can see Avignon outside of the LNs.

I WANT TO BELIEVE
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>>100916253
Well, she is the one girl the illustrators of the different media seem to put special effort when drawing.
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>>100914440
I don't really think Touma's way of life is silly and I don't think Kamachi finds it silly either. While Kamachi did lampshade the silly aspects (punch anyone, get the girl you set your eyes on etc), in the end, Kamachi still has Touma go with what he's always done and portrays it as heroic. It's especially true in this volume since what greater trial is there for an ideal than to face the greatest challenge/despair and still come out the same.

10 thousand fucking deaths of him dying futilely until he can dodge the first attack and with each attempt possibly requiring him to live through a despair world. He got through all that and still came out with his ideal intact. That's a real fucking heroic portrayal of a supposedly "silly" way of life.

The way I see it, Touma actually fulfills the conditions for Crowley's "Do what thou wilt..." and the idea of Ubermensch (the creative one held by Nietzsche, not the nazi version). He finds his center in something internal (his dream) instead of on something external like belief in a god, affiliation with a group etc. His goal is ultimately creative (happy ending for everyone). He doesn't hold any ressentiment to anything. Birdway even tells him what he does isn't based on good or evil (a standard beyond good and evil and all that). Even his portrayal follows Nietzsche's heroic ideal (hero hopeful against impossible odds) which makes me think maybe Kamachi's a Nietzsche fan.
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Speaking of the Index manga, I also thought it took a lot of liberties with some of the fight scenes because they were different than the anime, than I realized that they're a lot more faithful to the LN.
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>>100916401
Nietzsche-kun is a TouMAN's fan.
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>>100916374
I want this animated
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>>100916535
Index III would be pretty epic.
Fuck JC Staff.
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>>100916401

Eh, I'm not so fond of comparisons with the Nietzschean Ubermensch because Nietzsche is so tied to the circumstances of his time, but I can see your point.
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>>100916497

Based pope.
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>>100916507
Yeah, the artist really stresses over that shit. seems like he needed a better editor.
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>>100915273
I like Himegami though. Her speech about how she feels useless and wonders to herself why Touma saved her hit me pretty badly.
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>>100916253
I just realized that Biribiri vision is a thing in the Index manga.
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>>100916535

>Tsuchimikado trollan'
>Meeting Itsuwa
>Touma's engurishu
>POWER SUITS, SHIT GETTING REAL
>Touma calling Misaka to ask weird shit.
>Those friction spear bombs or whatever they are called.
>Flour based combat

Animation NEVER
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>>100916826
Can Terra make delicious pastries that can cut through anything?
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>>100916755
I actually like how the artist shows him blocking shit, it defuses instead of hit>gone
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>>100916274
I cried during that whole scene. It was so much more powerful than in the manga.
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Lot of people don't like Kogino's art, huh? I think he improved a lot in recent chapters and does a great job on his persons.
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>>100916965
The Touma/Mikoto interaction is one of the few things the anime gets right really.
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>>100916826
Don't forget Misaka finding out his secret.
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>>100916994
Yeah, he gets better but the material is still boring
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>>100916994
Oriana is sexy no matters which artist draws her.
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>>100917130
Well, we're still in Daihaiseisai. But it's a lot better than the anime from what I have read. Academy Invasion in the manga is what I can't wait for.
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>>100916894
>world's deadliest bakery
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>>100916894
Cutcakes
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If I've read the novels, Raildex manga, and seen all of the anime, is there any reason to read the Index manga? Does it release monthly?
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>>100917294
Not really. Unless you're interested to see how it fairs in manga form, you're good.
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>>100917294
Railgun* manga
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Does this Terra person have an ability like that vorpal grindstone that can turn even the silliest objects into ridiculously deadly weapons?
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>>100917006
Too bad Nagai isn't too fond of them.
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>>100917294
You get cute pictures
Railgun manga is the original source material for Railgun so it's new stuff so yes you should read it and yes it's monthly
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>>100917390
His ability is Execution of Light. Basically he takes the idea that since Jesus was killed by a simple spear, the spear's "Precedence" must have been raised above Jesus because a simple spear could never kill the Son of God.

So he can change the "Precedence" of objects. He can make his skin higher than bullets so they bounce off, flour higher than skin so it cuts right through, air higher than weapons so people can't move their weapons, etc.
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>>100917463
Seriously?
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Chapter 7 is complete:
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume9_Chapter_7
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>>100917463
Replacing the TouMAN with Satan. Why.
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>>100917551
Based js06 tyvm
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>>100917551
Aww shit here we go
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>>100917512
Yes, Nagai is shit.

>>100917551
Thanks based. Eat some RAM, you deserve it.
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>>100917463
Wow that made me so fucking mad.
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>>100917390
No, he has control over precedence

Example: skin over bullet
he can't be hurt by bullets, the eye would not fall under this
Example 2: hand over metal
he could crush metal in his hands like it was tissue paper
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>>100917551
Based little girl
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>>100917551
Thank you, js06.
You are God's gift.
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>>100917551
TYBJS06
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>>100917463
I couldn't believe that piece of shit did that, when I first saw it.
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>>100901845
I don't understand why people like this series.

How many chapters has it gone on for now? The MC hasn't even kissed his love interest?

His power is to punch things? The guy is a dumbass? He can't even fight properly? Seriously though, send two guys who can fight moderately well and they could wreck his shit like no tomorrow.

Why would anyone like a series with annoying characters, a tritely bland setting, and poor character progression?
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>>100917803
That bait isn't nearly big enough.

Say Accelerator is shit or Othinus is worst girl or something.
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>>100917551
very based
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>>100917551
Basically, Willsaka is saying that Ayn Rand was right.
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>>100917803
Low quality bait, I'm almost offended
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>>100917803
You're running by things MAL and AnimeSuki have already said 1000s of times. Try harder, please.
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>>100917889
Ayn Rand was a cunt who firmly believed the only people in the world were cunts
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>>100917207

Imagine Vento with the author's batshit faces.
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>“Also /return.” She paused for a moment. “I was the one that urged you on, so I’ll stick with you if they get mad at you /return. Even if they treat you like an evil demon king, we can start out as just the two of us /return. And then you can work to gradually reclaim your shattered circle of friends /return. It won’t be easy, it will leave scars on the most sensitive part of a person, and it will directly affect the survival of people around the world /return. But /backspace, it will all work out in the end /return. I’ll stick with you until it does☆ /return.”

Now I see why everyone likes the Overwill so much
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Will-chan doing the impossible for Kamijou here.
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>>100917551
>She had hidden those cards.

>Something resembling white flower petals peeled away from the borrowed body and scattered through the dark room.

>(If he had to rely on me here, that boy would certainly crumble eventually /return. He needs to stand firm here, so I can’t spoil him now /return.)

Will-tan is a good girl
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>>100918129
Seriously.

She just made him do something selfish and prioritize himself over everyone else in the world.

That's fucking amazing.
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“Also /return.” She paused for a moment. “I was the one that urged you on, so I’ll stick with you if they get mad at you /return. Even if they treat you like an evil demon king, we can start out as just the two of us /return.

Demon King end please.
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>>100913150
>Accelerator breaks the illusion on reality, returning everything back to normal
>Touma stares at him with a big smile, thanking him for saving him
>Accelerator looks away and blushes
>NT10 is a battle royale between Accel's fan girls and Touma's fan girls
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>>100917952
Sure, she was a cunt.
She was still right about Altruism, though.
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>“Also /return.” She paused for a moment. “I was the one that urged you on, so I’ll stick with you if they get mad at you /return. Even if they treat you like an evil demon king, we can start out as just the two of us /return. And then you can work to gradually reclaim your shattered circle of friends /return. It won’t be easy, it will leave scars on the most sensitive part of a person, and it will directly affect the survival of people around the world /return. But /backspace, it will all work out in the end /return. I’ll stick with you until it does☆ /return.”

She's so honestly sweet. Best girl.
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>Black_or_White
All I see is a bunch of grey.
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>>100913150
>Why don't they have Accelerator save Touma this time around?

Because Accelerator isn't relevant at all.
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>What he had to do had not changed. He had always passed through that door when charging out into the wide world.

>“It’s time to bring this to an end. It’s time to fight a god.”

Oh gosh. I'm a sucker for lines like these.
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>Why do you feel the need to unconditionally place yourself below everyone else /escape?
So that is what 'convience' thing from spoilers, based Network-chan.
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> And so she had only needed to say one thing.
> Please save me before this world crushes me.
Yeah. Another Touma manipulating bitch.
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>>100918514
She's manipulating him into being happy. Seems fair to me.
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>And the girl did not think it was a bad thing. In fact, if he had easily given up based on documents filled with systematic measurements, she would have been angry.
Yes.
She had actually been sulking up until now
It was a very human thing to do.

This is talking about Will-chan, right?
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>>100918514
>trashtalking Willsaka

Absolutely disgusting.
She could've said it, but she didn't. She knew it would make Touma snap out of it and go fight, but she wanted him to place more value in himself.
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>>100917840
>>100917845
>>100917890
>>100917894
>Make valid points

>"lol thos hav alredy bin sayd b4, nise b8"

I think this indirectly answered my question, the fanbase is smart.
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Will-chan ;_;
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>>100918686

Literally everything in your post is Pure bait. and if you don't think so yourself you know Nothing about the series.
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>>100918606
Yes.

Seriously, I want Will-chan route.
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>>100918514
>shitty reading comprehension
She didn't say that to him
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>>100918686
topwew
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I sort of wish Touma did beat down Othinus and indulge himself on her flesh and scent as a reward. And after he pulls out, he could stroke her hair and say
>They're not going to take away what I rightfully taken. You're my property now, and no one touches my property.

That's being selfish, right?
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>>100918514
She didn't want to manipulate him so how is she a manipulating bitch? lrn2read
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>>100918686
>Make valid points

You have no vaild points, hence Bait
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>>100918686
Have we really gotten bored enough we're just trolling outselves?
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>Touma finally prioritizing his own desires over those of everyone else in the world and realizing selfishness is okay

So we're on HF route then.
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>>100918964

And he Choose Othinus over the world, good stuff
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>>100918914
Accelerator a shit

Saten best girl
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Will-tan is not only a true female bro, she is the first person to ever truly do something to change and motivate Touma without personal interests, or trying to change him for her own convenience. She made him value himself just for once, without manipulating the facts or his feats, just with pure honesty and enough motivation to made him change his mind over what seemed impossible.

She's genuinely a fucking good girl.
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>>100919038
She felt the gratitude of 10k clones when he beat accel, she wants nothing but the best for him
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>>100919014
The bitch better put out
I wonder how it feels like to cum inside a Goddess's womb
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I don't understand, will we see Will-tan again or not?
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>>100919038
She's powered by the thoughts of 20,000 innocent maidens undergoing their first love. Nothing is purer.
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>>100919162
But she won't be a Goddess for long.

Soon she'll be a Fairy.
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>>100919190
She's technically a fairy now. Just it takes a little time a difference to show.
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>>100919171
Hopefully. She said she'd see Touma again in the original world.
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>>100919014
>And he Choose Othinus over the world, good stuff

He might say it is because she needs to be saved, but it is probably his selfish desire to fuck her senseless after all that teasing. How would the fanbase react if TouMAN decided to have his first time with Othinus?

Come to think of it, can we be certain that TouMAN is a virgin? We don't know much about pre-memory loss TouMAN.
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>>100916497
>tfw Vento will never come back
>tfw waifu wars never
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>>100919171
I want to see her hijacking Mikoto.
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>>100919272
Touma shouldn't even know if he's a virgin.
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>>100919272
Can WE be certain? Touma can't even be certain.
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>>100919250
Wasn't it both?
At the end of NT8 she got hit by the fairy spell and had the completed Gungnir, so she had both 100% success and 100% failure or something like that
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I always wondered when they were going to point out that elephant in the room. Touma's ideal of a happy ending for everyone has always excluded himself. I knew it was inevitable for someone to say "you deserve to be happy too, what about your happy ending."

I really like Will since she's the one who pointed it out.
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>>100919272
If no one knows you've had sex, not even you, are you a virgin?
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>>100919380
Kind of an extreme way to go about it though.

I mean Touma is prioritizing himself over the happiness of everyone else in the world.

Some serious HF going on here.
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>>100917803
>The MC hasn't even kissed his love interest?
He doesn't even have a love interest.
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>>100919190
Didn't you know, anon?

Fairies are the str⑨ngest.
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> In fact, doing that way would be a lot more like you /return. It’s much more like you than putting on a fake smile because you’re afraid of angering them and ultimately wearing yourself down on the inside /return.”

But what about his memory loss? Isn't he doing the exact same thing in regards to that?
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>>100919138
>>100919189
Yeah man. Making him apply his own logic for HIMSELF this time is the most endearing and awesome thing somebody has done for him.
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>>100919449
I swear that I have been saying that touma is just a more sensible shirou since before WW3
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>>100919501
That doesn't cause all that much anguish for him. He showed in 16 that he's come to terms with it.

Plus Will probably doesn't even know about it.
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>>100919449
>Some serious HF going on here
Goddamn it, this is what I disliked about HF to begin with.
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>>100919501
Will-chan isn't aware of his memory loss, as far as we know.
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Who would be mad at Touma for destroying the perfect world?
I don't think Mikoto or any of the clones would be mad, Index wouldn't either, she would be happy he chose the original world I think.
Styl I think would be mad, who else?
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>>100919554
Eh, if you want to get picky Touma has literally saved the world before, you could argue he deserves it.

I mean he won't use that logic for himself, but still.
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>>100919272
>How would the fanbase react if TouMAN decided to have his first time with Othinus?

No complains from me, no certainty on it being his first however
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It's time to purify a god.
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>>100919171
I think so. It said in the afterword that Will and Orhinus (who is going to be dere) are going to replace the other heroines for a bit.
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>>100919554
I think the difference this time is that Othinus is 1000 times better than Wormslut
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>>100919453
Touma's love interest is Itsuwa, but it's impossible for Touma to go to jail
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>>100919639
Touma basically killing half the sisters? I can see Accelerator and Mikoto being kind of pissed.

Stiyl would be pissed as well, as would people like Sherry, Vento, Agnese, etc.

Index won't care though.
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>>100919584
I know.

I'm just pointing out that even though Will-tan says it isn't like him, its actually very much like him to pretend there is nothing wrong even though he's empty inside.

Its not Will-tan's fault of course, but she's effectively wrong.
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>>100919709
...So, what. Same as usual?

There's always a different heroine in each volume.
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>>100919449
They did portray the intricacies of the situation so it's fine.

-Everyone is happy because everyone forgot about Touma so the happy people didn't know they lost something. If they knew Touma was suffering, a lot of them would reject their current happiness. Othinus was afraid so she made them forget him.
-Will is dying because of what Othinus did.
-Touma's prepared to admit and carry the burden of destroying that happy world.
-Touma's "convenience" is still him wishing a happy ending for everyone but this time, including himself.

There are other aspects supporting Touma's decision so I actually like it. It's a gray situation which Kamachi seems to like ever since NT began.
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>>100919711
>only 1000 times
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>>100919171
>“See you in the original world, Kamijou-chan /return.”
Pretty sure.
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>“Then apologize /return. Tell them everything and apologize /return,” she said casually. “That’s what you’ve done all this time, isn’t it /escape? When great tragedy built hatred in your powerful enemies’ hearts, you solved it all, one by one /return. This is no different /return. You brought an end to an entire war like that, so you can return everything to normal no matter how bad it gets /return. In fact, doing it that way would be a lot more like you /return. It’s much more like you than putting on a fake smile because you’re afraid of angering them and ultimately wearing yourself down on the inside /return.”
Yeah, boss rush.
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>>100919449
It's only in regards to this perfect world though. Touma has a right to be happy.
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>>100919711
He's not doing it because he wants to save Othinus though,
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Something I realized:
By the end of NT 9 both Ollerus and Othinus will be just fairies, because both were hit by that Turn_into_a_fairy spell.
Clearly they were a threat because of their Godlike powers, but now that they are weak Aleister or Laura might take the opportunity to finish them off.
Remember how Ollerus threatened Aleister regarding Gemstones during SS2? He probably can't do something like that now. He is weakened and fucked. His fight with Othinus came with a huge price.
In the end they probably did exactly what Aleister wanted.
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>>100919834
Plus there is the fact that Othinus is probably going to get bored of this world and end it pretty quick.

I know Touma rejected this thought, but an argument could be made that this world is effectively temporary for that reason
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>>100918869

No anon. That is self insertion.
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>>100916965
The VA's are both really good her cracking voice while crying was some powerful shit
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>>100920031
Wasn't the fairy spell for turning gods into fairies, though? Since Ollerus failed to even become a god, he's likely going to fail at becoming a fairy, too.

Might have some effects still, though.
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Every one of her words is pure gold. Is there really a girl that truly understands Touma and has done more for him than her?
She really puts the other heroines to shame.
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>>100920031
Aren't a bunch of Aleister's Keikaku's fucked up though?
He couldn't kill Laura because he wasn't sure of if it would mess up his plans or not right?
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>>100920108
Oh yeah, forgot about that one. Touma did weigh the 2 possibilities.

1) he kills himself to preserve the happy world but Othinus might get bored and destroy it in the future
2) stop Othinus and carry the sin of destroying it himself
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>>100920163
unconditional love is a funny thing anon
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>>100920192
That was Birdway he couldn't kill.
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>>100920192
>Implying his keikakus getting fucked up isn't all according to keikaku
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>>100920163
Taking bets on how long it takes for us to forget about her.
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>>100920163
Unfortunately she failed to do what would've undoubtedly made her best girl

Give Touma a hug
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>>100920280
>Implying she won't win the T
>Implying the rest of the clones don't also win because Will is technically all of them
>Implying Biri won't join in
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>>100920163

Well by the end of the LN it is Othinus who understands him the most and vice versa. Done more for him than Will? Nah.
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>>100920163
She is love. A pure girl who only wants to see Touma truly happy.
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>>100920303
She's probably nervous about his right hand.
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>>100919853
I want to see her hijacking Last Order and chase after him in front of Accelerator.
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>>100919639
Index wouldn't care.
Accelerator would be angry because he basically killed all of the sisters. Same goes for Mikoto.
Styil would be angry too.
Maybe someone from GREMLIN will be angry too, like Marian.
Mugino and the rest of ITEM would be angry because they lost Frenda again.
I can see Fiamma being 50/50 about it.
Ollerus would be even more angry, however.
Thor wouldn't care.
Birdway? Who knows.
Vento would be angry.
Acqua would understand.
I can't think of everybody else.
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>>100913500
I'm going to be sad when the two inevitably be relegated to side characters or worse, comic relief.
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>>100920280
She had the biggest impact on Touma so far. In my mind, she will never be forgotten.
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>>100919709
The afterword doesn't say that.
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>>100920464
I think Accelerator and Mikoto would understand if they learned that it was basically the combined will of the Misaka Network that basically went "No, fuck that shit, prioritize yourself you idiot."
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>>100920303
She moved close enough to kiss him though. That's a start.
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>>100920560
So everything we know is a lie.

Well, thanks based! The truth will set you free and all that.
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>>100920513
See you in three volumes.
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>>100920589
But he still didn't sniff her.

What the fuck, Touma.
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>>100920464
>Same goes for Mikoto.
NO. Mikoto be ok with this.
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>>100920580
Right, if Touma and Will can explain it to them they'll understand. Will did say Touma would probably need to apologize to everyone.

They'll definitely be pissed as hell at first though. Or Accelerator will. Mikoto will probably just be broken and confused.
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>>100920626
Touma's never sniffed anything in this series.

So I have a theory.

Maybe his sense of smell is broken.
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>>100920580
No one gives a fuck what Accelerator thinks. Touma would just beat the shit out of him again if he tries to fight him over it.
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>>100920626

Don't know man. I too would be attached to a god that i was with for 10031 worlds that went for years.
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So how many of you denizens of the Raildex General now have a scent fetish?
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>>100920580
Maybe, maybe not.
We'll see it in NT10, though.
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>>100920610
It's just an afterword.
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>>100920464
>Mugino and the rest of ITEM would be angry because they lost Frenda again.
>I can see Frenda being 50/50 about it.
Fixed
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>>100920726

I had a thing for scent but not yet fully into a fetish.
Though i got a armpit fetish now.
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>>100920761
>>I can see Frenda being 50/50 about it.
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>>100919646
Fuck what Touma deserves, what happened to no compromises or sacrifices?
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>>100920726
Never had, never will. I'm not that easily manipulated.
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>>100920726
Shame on you, I always had it.
Seriously, that's a pretty normal fetish. Even more normal than breasts or ass.
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>>100920761
>I can see Frenda being 50/50 about it

These will never get old.
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>>100920907
Since when does Touma make no compromises or sacrifices?

He was killing to kill Yakumi to save Rensa afterall.

Besides, this whole thing is supposed to be about Touma changing into a more selfish, human person, making decisions he wouldn't have before is kind of standard for that.
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>>100920907
This world only exists to torment Touma.

The moment he dies, there would be no more use for it so Othinus would probably just destroy it.

One requires for him to live with the fact that all those deaths are on his head. The other's an escape.
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Will-tan is the purest form of love Touma could ever ask for.
If he doesn't at least thank her for what she did for him, I'll be pissed.
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>>100920726
If it smells good, ya sniff. If it don't, you learned a lesson. Dunno about it being a fetish though.
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>>100920464
Assuming they all legitimately believe the whole thing

-Index would understand and side with Touma.
-Mikoto would get confused initially but eventually understand and side with him.
-Accelerator is the same as Mikoto but would probably remain neutral as he goes all emo about it thinking it through.
-ITEM would be angry but Shiage would understand eventually and get the others to do the same.
-Fiamma would see how it's similar to his case and accept it.
-Marian would rage.
-Ollerus is mad and confused as hell. Might fight him to get to Othinus.
-Thor doesn't care but will want to fight him for that exp.
-Birdway will fight him but eventually join him. "Fight and make up" as usual.
-I agree with your Vento and Acqua too.

Lessar will be confused but side with him anyway as she figures it out.
Delta force and company didn't really get affected that much so they'll understand especially Tsuchi.
Maria already accepted Kagun's death so she'd understand too.
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>>100920985
>Since when does Touma make no compromises or sacrifices?
Since always.

That's what he's always done. The Rensa example is moot because the point was forcing Rensa to save Yakumi, because there was no way he could have done that himself.
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>>100921145
That's assuming Touma tells them the whole thing. Which he may not do.

Wouldn't be surprised if he just says "Yeah, I killed them", and leaves out important details like him not having many options.
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>>100920907
Read >>100919834 and >>100920108

The situation really isn't as simple as Touma kills himself = happy ending forever.
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>>100921225
He was hoping Rensa would save Yakumi, but he was accepting that he might be killing Yakumi.

And you're ask alot from a guy who just went through thousands or possibly millions of worlds of torture and death.

Heroic resolve only goes so far.
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There's still one chapter and the epilogue left, but this is already my favorite NT novel hands down.
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>>100920907
>what happened to no compromises or sacrifices?

It stays where it should: in the grave together with the fools who sacrificed themselves for others.
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>>100921124
He didn't say anything to the people who have helped him before.
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>>100921358
>implying it's not worth fighting for even if it's foolish
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>>100921464
Touma's an action type. Everyone he's helped already knows he'd die for them. Most of them would do the same for him now. It's most likely an unspoken understanding between them.
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Touma had no escape here.

If he dies, he essentially robs the world of its reason for existing, since it only exists to drive him to suicide in the first place. Othinus would probably just go ahead and destroy it afterwards.

If he lives, he'll be inviting death to the world.

If he destroys it, then it's destroyed.

Either way, it's all on his head. His decision to face Othinus is logically the best decision, because he's fighting to stop her from destroying and recreating the world at her whim. And if you consider that each incarnation of the world essentially "dies" every time she destroys and recreates it, then Othinus has more deaths on her head than the entire history of humanity combined. How many worlds has she gone through? How many billions and billions of human lives has she destroyed and recreated? Do those not count as "deaths" too?
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>>100921232
>Misunderstandings
Ugh, I hate this shit. Contrived plot devices.
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>HF

Similar, but not quite the same thing. HF was Shirou choosing between his ideals and his loved ones. This is about Touma choosing between the worlds happiness or his own.
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>>100921542
>fighting for Index

You might as well adopt a headcrab from Half-life, at least you can teach them to be friendly towards you.
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>>100921660
Freaking headhumpers.
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>>100921542
UBW Shiro pls go and stay go
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>>100921727
No.
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>>100921659
Not to mention that realistically, nothing changed for Shirou. He was still putting an external happiness (Sakura's) above his own. He only becomes more human in the most artificial sense of the word.
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>>100921660
Not really, you can just remove their fangs, they'll still try to mate with your skull
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Is Touma's body made of swords yet?
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>>100921822
Nope, just suffering
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After spending that much time with Othinus, Touma will be impregnated by her smell too.
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>>100921822
It's made of misfortune and manliness.
Swords are for pussies.
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We still have to get through one last segment of suffering: him dying many, many, many times.
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>>100922052
Othinus will have to take responsibility.
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Why do people compare Touma's ideals to Shirou's ideals?

Shirou is basically a faker except in UBW because he chases after a fake ideal for his own happiness. He doesn't really even believe in the ideal.

Touma, on the other hand, doesn't really have an ideal and acts the way he sees fit without any external moral or societal constraints.
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>>100922095
But this time, he's no longer wavering or despairing. He's back to the same Touma who ran through the Star of Betlehem to punch an angel as it sinks to the bottom of the sea. Serious business Touma is best Touma.
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>>100922095

>him leveling up many, many, many times


Hard parts over, now he just needs to grind.
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>>100922252
Very true, anon. This will be an epic battle. As it stated:
>No excuses were necessary. They would fully enjoy this battle of individuals for individuals and by individuals.
Fuck yes.
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>>100922236
They are both suicidally kind, have little to no self worth, would throw their loves away for a complete stranger and they are both idiots
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>>100922236

They see the superficial similarities (memory loss, saving damsels in distress) and go off of that without looking deeper.
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>>100922095
Depending on how it's written, Touma's manliness in regards to never giving up and pushing forward against a god might make it more bearable than straight suffering from before.
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Accel spoilers fucking when? Magazine goes on sale soon, right?
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And so the negative reactions over the spoilers turnted out to be exactly the opposite, again.
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>>100922410
The difference is that Touma can be convinced to prioritize himself for once.

Shirou can't. Even in Heaven's Feel, he still prioritizes Sakura over himself.
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>>100922500
The magazine always goes on sale on the 27th, unless that happens to be on a Sunday. Then they just do it on the 26th.
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>>100922500
The manga chapter comes out in two days, so we should be getting them here soon.

I'm actually surprised we got the Railgun ones so soon/
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>>100922500
Tonight most likely. Railgun spoilers came out two days earlier than usual is all.
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>>100922526
Oh yeah, shirou still has no self worth but it was the first time he did something for a selfish reason
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>>100922309
Back to the Level 6 Shift project, all according to keikaku
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>>100922604
>first time
Looks like someone missed the point of F/SN.
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>>100922591
I think the guy who spoils this shit early just works for a shop or delivery system, that way he gets to look at the shit whenever he gets them in stock.
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>>100922410
>They are both suicidally kind, have little to no self worth

Which was corrected by Willsaka. Shirou never really changed that side of him in any route.

>would throw their loves away for a complete stranger

Touma does it because he thinks that's the right thing to do, Shirou is just a faker.

>they are both idiots

Touma isn't really dumb, just academically dumb.

Touma has misfortune, Shirou is quite lucky a lot of times.
Touma doesn't want to be a hero, Shirou wants to be a hero.
Touma is straight. Shirou is bi.
TouMAN a best. Shitrou a shit.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1_j-NZ1kac
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>>100922828
Wasn't Touma stated to be good at school except when it comes to esper development?
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>>100922828
two sides of the same coin
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>>100922828
Touma isn't even really academically dumb, it's shown he rocks math and physics in practical usage.

He sucks at language is all, and misses half his classes.
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Why is mjolnir still a tin can in a perfect world?
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Othinus will be blessed with Touma's offspring.
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>>100922828
>Touma does it because he thinks that's the right thing to do
He does it because he feels compelled to help people, not out of a sense of good.
>Shitrou a shit.
Now that's just uncalled for.
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>>100922996
Komoe calls him an idiot because his academics sucks.

He does apply physics in his fights, though. So he can't be completely shit at some subjects. He's shown to know little to no English, so no way he does good in that class.
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>>100922996
esper development and attendance. He still had to take remedial classes though.

Also he's not very good at language.
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>>100922996
He's pretty decent. Touma is obviously pretty clever, his grades are just horrible because he gets wrapped up in so much shit.

Othinus gives him all the time he could ask for, and he still can't finish his homework.
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>>100923046
Maybe she likes being a drum
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>>100923046
Maybe she likes being a drum.

Or maybe Kamachi and Haimura couldn't be bothered to come up with a new design for her.
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>>100920907
Well, he would be sacrificing himself then, which also goes against no sacrifices. Touma has never fought with the intention of sacrificing himself, the goal was always to have everyone including himself happy.
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>>100923046
She wants to be a tin can.

You have a problem with tin cans?
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>>100923157
Didn't she chose to be transformed into a drum.
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>>100923046
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRhWp1-T5iU
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>>100923046
In the original world she volunteered to become a tin can. She likes it I guess.
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>>100923228

How can she live her life correctly as a tin can?
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>>100923444
She can punch people with lightning.

Or make Thor do it for her.
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>>100923444
lol. /dead
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>>100923647
new thread
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>>100922996
Remember folks, AC Education is at minimum a decade ahead of the rest of the world. Dumb to AC is probably still pretty dang smart.
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>>100914896
It's called "shaftilt". (シャフ度 if you want to go Japanese.)



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