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Just started watching Zeta Gundam a couple days ago.
>new mecha show up every episode like magic
>suddenly this 130 feet tall transforming giant size gundam shows up

Jesus christ, how could people take this show serously? Even SEED DESTNY never go full retard like this.
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>>100890670
>hating the best Gundam show
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>>100890717
>Zeta
>best Gundam show
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>>100890717
Best Gundam is ZZ.
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>>100890670
Can't wait until you see ZZ. Also didn't you make the same thread in /m/ the other day?
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>>100890717
>>100890763

Best Gundam is obviously Turn A plebs.
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>>100890670
>Even SEED DESTNY never go full retard like this.
Also don't listen to the Zeta/ZZ dick suckers OP. Zeta suffered with half the cast being unlikable while the cast of ZZ suffered from having children in the cast and lolrandumbxD bullshit in the first half.
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>suddenly this 130 feet tall transforming giant size gundam shows up
>Even SEED DESTNY never go full retard like this.
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>some teen gets his hands on a battle robot
>he know how to pilot it
>is a overpowered exclusive new model
>emotional crisis because "I don't want kill anyone"
>keeps piloting anyway
>muh peace, war is evil
>mc confront some antagonist, no one dies so they can keeep fighting over and over on the future episodes
>lots of exclusive models

I can't take any mecha anime seriously.
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>>100890670
>Even SEED DESTNY never go full retard like this.
What the fuck?

Unless it was full retard to begin with though.
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>>100891635
>he knows how to pilot it
>unexplained in UC
Pick one.
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But SEED Destiny = modernized Zeta
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>>100890869
Turn A is best AU, Zeta is best UC television, 0080 is best UC.
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The only good thing about Turn A is the ending
No one talk about the plot becasue its boring crap and full of clich

You can watch frist 3 eps of Turn A and skip to last 3 eps and watched the ending ot you would gonna waste your life on 20+hours shit
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>>100891635
>every mecha anime is SEED
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>>100891730
the only thing Destiny is missing is an autistic MC
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Who cares. The shows are all just advertisements for the models and games.
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>>100891673
What do you mean with pick one?
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The MC design his own Gundam and he is only 14 or 15
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>>100891995
I mean only one applies.
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>>100892104
New Types are very good at reading manuals.
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>>100891976
Name one anime that don't have one of those things.

Seriously, name one, I would love to watch.
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>>100891635
>mc confront some antagonist, no one dies so they can keeep fighting over and over on the future episodes
>implying CCA never happened
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Obligatory.
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>>100890670
They hand the gap years to buillt these kind of shit.
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>>100892147
What is J9.

Lurk fucking more.
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>>100892147
Evangelion

Shinji activated the robot but failed to control it in the first battle
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>>100892147
VOTOMS? I only saw like a dozen episodes before I got bored of it, but I don't remember it having any of those cliches.
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>the more autistic you are the greater your powers are
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>Complaining about toys in a toy commercial
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>>100891995
Just because you didn't pay attention doesn't mean they suddenly became incredible pilots without any explanation.
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>Even SEED DESTNY never go full retard like this.

Funny that you'd pick the show that copied Zeta and ZZ mecha for mecha.
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>>100892147
Every super robot show and that already makes a lot
And for Gundam shows, I guess
Gundam 0080
Gundam 0083
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>>100891673
I was watching ZZ the other day and they gave a MS to an African black kid and he knew how to pilot it. Explain to me how it works when they don't have books/manuals in Africa.
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>>100890670

That giant size Gundam is symbolic of a paramilitary organization run amok. How they've decided to use it in downtown Hong Kong is also plot relevant to the absolute corruption of the organization and how a fucking world government can't stop them from committing widescale atrocities on live TV. You're going to notice over the course of the series the Titans' tendency to fund more military hardware projects than the US DoD.
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>>100892417
Wasn't he in a Kapool before that.
He was in the gang that had the bunch of aquatic suits anyway.
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>>100892221
All pilots are teens, the focus of the entire anime is kids piloting mechas.

>>100892213
>>100892221
Gonna download.

>>100892309
Is this 0079? Don't the mc just destroy enemy mechas right on the first time in a cockpit on the first episode?

A show plot having a shit excuse for a kid magically being able to pilot something, sometimes even better than trained soldiers, don't change how silly it is.
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>>100892417
>when they don't have books/manuals in Africa.
pls america
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>>100892489
>Don't the mc just destroy enemy mechas right on the first time in a cockpit on the first episode?

Enemy mechs who until that point had literally never been a real combat situation with enemy mechs before. Shit caught them off guard.
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>>100892489
> Don't the mc just destroy enemy mechas right on the first time in a cockpit on the first episode?
Because their weapons were fucking useless. He wasn't piloting particularly well or anything.
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>That episode where Kamille meets his imouto
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>>100892592
The mc never had it either, the soldiers at least had training and everything.

>>100892651
And why is that? Because its a overpowered exclusive new model right?
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>>100892713
>The mc never had it either, the soldiers at least had training and everything.

He at least expected to be fighting mobile suits when he got in the thing, and as I said the Zeeks were caught off guard. Actually didn't one of the Zakus try to run after he saw the Gundam kill his buddy out of nowhere?
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>>100892309
>doubting Amuro
You can go eat a dick. Amuro was like that technology addicted kid because of his dad. I'm pretty sure he can hold his ground against some inferior zaku with no fighting experience. He got his shit wrecked against Char the first time.

But anyways, Zeta is fucking nothing compared to the original. They made newtypes in Zeta way too OP. It's like how Newtypes were like initially like the jedi in Starwars. They shat on that in zeta by making Kamille soul jesus by placing some fucking stupid armor on his Gundam. I'm fucking glad he's autistic now.

Zeta is only worth watching for Char and short screen times from Amuro.
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>>100892489
>Evangelion
>Gonna download.
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>>100892713
Pretty much but they never try to hide it, actually enemies and allies constantly remind the MC that the only reason of why he is doing so good its because its a new unknown model
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>>100892713
No, it's because Amuro is the MC. It's like you've never seen anime before. He's also the son of one of the engineers of the robot and had access to the blueprints. You can continue calling it insufficient but it's always explained.
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>>100892773
Yes, but that is standard procedure.
I agree it was a bit not realistic though.
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>>100892790

Zeta was crucial in fleshing out newtypes as a critical part of the setting, though. Perfect spatial awareness? Heightened reflexes? Acute mental conditioning? Always superior to inferior cloned newtypes and artificial wannabes? The potential to psychically connect with people?

Yeah I guess those things explain why Newtype pilots do so well in spaaaaaaaaaace.
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>>100892164
Perfect.
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>>100892793
I misquoted, I already watched it.

>>100892790
Yeah, being a civil teen with knowledge totally puts you above trained soldiers with knowledge.


>>100892801
>>100892810
Is explained, every anime made something up to explain it, but is still a lot silly all the times, thats my point.
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>>100892713
>Because its a overpowered exclusive new model right?

There were other Gundams in the war, not just Amuro's. It gets outclassed as a machine soon enough anyhow.
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>>100892713
Because the Federation put all of its war effort into building a model that could give them the advantage in mech battle, the only field where they were lacking in this war.
But yeah, that sounds so unrealistic.
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>>100892164
While we're doing this...
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>>100892944
He got the advantage of getting a better Mecha. Grunt soldier don't exactly have great piloting skills to beat a secret weapon an organization has.
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>>100892874
I didn't like how they made every fucking character in zeta a Newtype. Amuro only got his full newtype potential powers when he went to space. It was so stupid to give the AEUG newtype powers when they were the earth master race.
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>>100892961
Still overpowered enough to make the average guns useless, like >>100892651 said.


>>100892966
Yeah, thats what I am trying to say, and they do it too much in anime.
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>>100892944
>Yeah, being a civil teen with knowledge totally puts you above trained soldiers with knowledge.

It does when it's a top of the line custom which even then gets outdated a dozen or so episodes in.

honestly, a better target to pick would be Hayato and Kai considering they used MP gundams and mostly held their own.
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>>100893033

What do you mean? The only AEUG newtypes in Zeta were Kamille, Quattro, and Amuro - and the last two were veterans from 0079.
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>>100893098
oh shit. I meant the Titans.
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>>100893033
>It was so stupid to give the AEUG newtype powers when they were the earth master race.
In Zeta, Kamille is the only new newtype. And he's from space himself.

Same goes for Judau and pals when they turn up for ZZ.
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>>100893061
>Yeah, thats what I am trying to say, and they do it too much in anime.
I was being ironic with the unrealistic line.
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I liked that Amuro went from cutting the limbs off Gundams to disable them and letting the pilot live to targeting the nuke reactor.
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Not op, but I'm gonna say that G-Gundam is one of the best shows I've seen.
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>>100893164
I meant the Titans. Those fuckers were sensing shit from afar for being earth people.
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>>100891635
>no one dies

Well this isn't a Sunrise mecha
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Kamille. ;_;
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At least in 0079 it makes perfect sense. Amuro doesn't magically know how to pilot the Gundam, he reads manual and he's already a huge tech-freak from the start. He isn't even a good pilot, the only reason he defeats the zeeks in the beginning is because his machine is way better and because the Gundam is literally the first Federation mobile suit. Zeeks were caught off guard.
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>>100893196
>g gundam
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>>100893148

The Titans only had the Fours and Pink. And the Fours were fakes and Pink was shit.
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>>100893184
I always disliked this, killing them would (probably) be a lot easier.
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>>100893257
>because no one can have his own opinion
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Zeta went full retard with the grunt designs.

A fucking Anubis mech? Really?
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>>100893290
>grunt
Being Jerid is suffering.
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>>100893148

Most of the Titans were artificial newtypes, weren't? I think only Scirocco and Sarah were the real deal, and Scirocco pretty much lived in space.
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>>100893268
Most of the known Titan pilots has a tiniest bit of Newtype powers like sensing opponents and shit. At least Neo Zeon and Jupiterfag were reasonable. You should watch Zeta again.
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>>100893290

Its plot relevant. Iceberg right ahead.
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>>100893216
>>100893148
Remember that their most notable newtype is from Jupiter. The only other ones of note were cyber newtypes.
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>>100893280

You can have your opinion. And I can have my opinion; namely that your opinion is subpar.
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>>100893280
If you think it's one the best shows ever then you probably haven't seen many or your nostalgia goggles are on to tight.
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>>100893320
Poor Jerid. He just wanted to tap that ass.
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>>100893344
I wasn't talking about notable ones. I was just saying that most of them had the tiniest bit of Newtype powers that are comparable to the white base characters excluding amuro.
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>>100891635
>I can't take any mecha anime seriously
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>>100893275
It would also destroy half the colony.
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>>100893323

No thats just the animation. They weren't newtypes or enhanced humans. TITAN pilots are experienced because they're the active paramilitary wing. Thats why some of them can keep up with Kamille.
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>>100892147
VOTOMS, Macross, Mospeada, Patlabor, L-Gaim, Super robot anime in general, etc etc.
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>>100893240
This
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I've watched 08th MS team and SEED, I loved them both. Gundam is gr8.
What do I watch next? Is there a definitive order of watching? MAL's listing of them is huge.
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The cause for all the events in Zeta is fucking retarded.
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>>100893464
Production order.
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>>100893464
First Gundam (0079), or if you're lazy, First Gundam Movie Trilogy.
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>>100893275
Amuro is the hero of space. His morals shouldn't allow him to kill that easily unless he needed too (i.e. in the beginning)
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>>100893464

Production order is fine. Start with 0079 and keep going. It has shit animation but that shouldn't be too much of a turn off.
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>>100892164
Who's the guy on the back? The one with green hair and a monocle. I recognize everyone except him.
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>>100893464
SEED Destiny then stop there.
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>>100893436
Possible. I can understand them slowly keeping up with kamille. I just didn't like how Char's skills decreased in the series. It was only shown again when he went against Haman Karn.
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There are reasons why lots of spin off and MSV all based on 0079 but not Zeta fanfiction
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>>100893529
I think he's from Trider G7.
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>>100893560
Because Zeta is shit.
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>>100893464
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>>100893549

>Char

what?
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>>100892147
VOTOMS, Dougram, Patlabor, DAI-GUARD, Goddannar, Getter, Eva,uhh too many to list, im sorry anon, i haven't watch mecha anime as much as you
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>>100893621
Quattro
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>>100893290
Bitch, I will shank you. Nobody disses the sexiest aka the only good-looking mech in all of Gundam MS on my watch.

>>100893464
>not watching in production order
fullretard.flac
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>>100893549
>Char's skills
Char was never a hugely amazing pilot to begin with. He got his fame for destroying battleships, which is something totally different than fighting other mobile suits.
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>>100893570
>Trider G7
Must be. Haven't seen that one yet.
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>>100893656
>the only good-looking mech in all of Gundam
>talking shit about sexia
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>>100893704

Its kind of sad how the achievement of destroying spaceships have been reduced to popping balloons in the Gundamverse, unless the ship happens to be a model, deviation, or spiritual successor of the Trojan Horse.
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>>100893704

That's how all the Zeon aces got their fame. There weren't any enemy mobile suits to fight when they started making names for themselves.
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>>100893742
All Gundams are fucking terrible. Ooh look at me I'm a super speshul space samoorai kid's toy mech with a stupid and ugly forehead-thing, herpdiderp.

I forgot about Kampfer, so that makes two good mechs in Gundam.
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>>100893841
Sounds like a butthurt zeon fag.
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>>100893841
>All Gundams are fucking terrible
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>>100893841
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>>100893878
Most Zeek suits are fucking dull and boring, though not as much as Jims and such. The only thing they have going for them is the mono-eye.
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>>100893841
You sound quite frustrated.
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>>100891673
Where did Seabook learn how to pilot?
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>>100893841
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>>100893937

I don't understand how you can consider them dull and boring but somehow Kampfer sticks out to you. It doesn't really break from the mold that much.
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>>100894045
That would've been explained if we had gotten the planned 50-episode tv series instead of that shitty movie.
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>>100890670
>Even SEED DESTNY never go full retard like this.
Do you even remember Seed Destiny, you fucking, retard ?
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>>100890670
Sure about that son?
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>>100893841
Zeon wanker detected
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People complain a lot about ZZ after jumping to it from Zeta, but i felt the same way about Zeta jumping from 0079 to it.

Most characters are annoying or have poor and retarded motivations.

I thought the Titans were pretty shitty villains too, they were contradictory, and had only bad guys on their ranks. As evil and shitty as the Zabis and Zeons were, they always had well intentioned, good or just honorable people among their ranks.

Haman and Emma are awesome though. So is Yazan
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>>100892874
It also shows they can turn into force ghosts.



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