Is there an anime character whose power surpasses Madoka's?
She can't do jackshit if you're not a witch.
Should we tell him?
Huh, a lot?
I'm more powerful than any anime character because I exist.
>Who is Bushido Brown?
well fuck, i thought this was /a/
I didn't know a lot of characters could remake the universe
A lot, Haruhi for example.
Do you have the power to destroy their identity in the general public? No matter how much you try, more people will know Madoka's name over your name and face.
People know Michael Jackson more than Madoka. Looks like he wins.
I don't think he knows. Let's see what happens.
Here you go.
Was waiting for a Madoka thread.
Looking in the archive, it seems this video hasn't been posted yet which seems surprising.
Homura is pretty gay for Madoka. Madoka just interacts with Homura slightly. Sayaka is evidently still bitter over Kyousuke, but is fairly cheerful and energetic despite that. Kyouko is still extremely innocent and shooting herself in the foot earnestly trying to help Sayaka(she stalks her apparently though). Mami's just sort of there playing a mom.
Shit this is a Madoka thread, fuck you faggots I was expecting general anime discussion.
Madoka didn't even lip kiss.
Only the shitheads on /u/ care about that.
>making a Madoka thread
not only could tenchi beat her in combat but he'd leave her wanting the dick
>implying the limitations set by reality don't make you far weaker than even the weakest anime character not bound by the laws of physics
But Madoka is the EOE of our generation.
Madoka didn't even lip kiss.
Maybe if you're underage.
>Homura's hair doesn't smell like gunpowder, sweat and tears
B..but Muh Headcanon!
All Lain has to do is re-arrange the world through the Wire and Madoka is just a normal human while Lain is a god among men. She's fucked...in both ways.
Sometimes I wish I was an OP anime character so I could kill all the "gods" and OP characters in anime, and crown myself king of OP.
Dokes and Homu of course, Haruhi, Demonbane, etc.
I guess the only one who can do it is Power Man.
Since when you are under the assumption that you are exist?
Is there anyone as cute and pure as Madoka?
Madoka is straight, she's just naive, naturally lewd, and doesn't want to hurt Homura's feelings by giving her a direct "no"
It seemed like the OP meant for it to be general anime powerlevels, but he miscalculated the fact that the most immediate answer is basically Homura directing it back at the Madoka series itself.
Generally though, Madoka is kind of weak regarding powerlevel discussions.
>le tricked face.bmp
I am going to feed you your own entrails on a golden, diamond-encrusted platter.
There's nothing to suggest it doesn't, anon. You know, until she takes a shower and shampoos up.
>Kyouko doesn't shower and smells like sweat and junk food
S..so what do girls do when they're inside their Futon together?
Homura is an ugly emo bitch.
you're right, it smells like hoppes no. 9
because her and mami oil each other up every night
She's not ugly. She's pretty.
She needs to be thoroughly washed.
Objectively not true
Emos complain and don't solve their problems, Homura solves her problems.
Meh, what she did to Madoka was for Madoka's sake but wrong to do. In the end Madoka will forgive Homura so I can forgive as well.
So that's what happened to Kyubey.
What's this about a devil Homura I keep reading about? I haven't read up on the 3rd movie's, so someone spoiler it for me please.
There's just something about her I don't like. Maybe lesbian? The hairband or stockings? I can't put my finger on why but I really want to punch her face in. Maybe it's the smug, evil side of Homu.
Are you blind? He got shampoo in his eyes.
/a/'s theory is now he has emotions or at least can feel negative ones like fear. His race is enslaved to do Homura's will and she needs them to continue making contracts to fight wraiths.
Homura does nothing wrong and haters call her a devil.
Maybe you're just a faggot.
Nah, if she was like that Madoka would have been dead i n the the seconmd timeline.
She breaks the laws of the universe and deprecates Madokami.
The smug, evil side makes me love her even more
Homura fixes everything wrong with the world and replaces Madoka.
>spoiler it for me please
I like you anon. That's the way to do it, just get filthy with spoilers. Everyone who bailed from /a/ during November missed out.
Homura betrays, rape and locks up Madoka in a cell so she can be happy.
>I didn't know a lot of characters could remake the universe
you'd be surprised
>doesn't like your shitty sadistic waifu
She's probably messy and slimy as fuck down there. Madoka's doing the right thing staying away. If I was in her position I'd run away.
Here you go OP. Powerlevel discussion is done. Now back to megucas.
>Homura is pretty gay for Madoka. Madoka just interacts with Homura slightly.
>asking about her shampoo
>saying that her hair smells great
>calls her very cute
Homura is (un)lucky that the others were there or she'd have lost her virginity that night.
>S..so what do girls do when they're inside their Futon together?
whatever they do, it's probably fucking boring and nobody would want to watch 12 episodes of it.
A cell that is the size of the universe...
No anon Homura is not your mom.
I bet you want to be raped by Homura. You know she'll kill you, right?
She is kind of a dirty girl, being a devil and all.
Doraemon with his What-if phone booth.
>You know she'll kill you, right?
She doesn't have what it takes. She couldn't even knock off Mami.
I understand what you're feeling anon, really even now it's hard for me to set up absolute feelings about Homura now. I will say that when I first watched Rebellion I was angry at her and her actions.
Discussing my problems with her here helped level my feelings and now I think that her motivation was good but that her actions broke Madoka's trust in her and I expect some kind of consequence in terms of Magical Girls in general.
Now I don't hate her, I think her intentions were good but her actions will have consequences. The one we already know being that she now has even more self-hatred issues than before.
Have you seen the MadoHomu ending? The lewd is off the charts. Madoka suggests they take a bath together but writes it off as 'just kidding' when Homura is shocked. Then while they're in bed together staring into each other's eyes while holding hands, Madoka asks if she can stay at Homura's place next time... where they will be alone.
So?The size doesn't matter, is still a cell.
She probably wouldn't pay any attention. I'd just be mopped side by familiars to live my happy life in the perfect world Homura created.
Homu doesn't go and kill people for no reason.
I would gladly accept homurape.
Life is a prison, anonymous
>Turning Madoka into a lewd lesbian
Fucking Battle Pandering!
She's always been a lewd lesbian.
been there, done that
Now please, stand aside and make way for the one true Goddess.
Hi I'm Date Homu, nice to meet me!
Following that logic Yuri Valhalla is freedom and Homura is suppressing the freedom of Madoka.
How do you like your eggs in the morning?
Well, then earth is a prison for humanity?
Homura still believes that Madoka can live happy without the magical stuff.
We Gnostic now?
No, Madoka always been quite lewd towards Homura, I don't think that Madoka realizes that though.
Haruhi a shit, even worse than Homu.
It's nothing new anon. Didn't you see Rebellion in theaters?
Maybe she's an autistic lesbian too.
In terms of intelllgent character development, well. All.
>The face on that single, unamused hetfag
So from what we know: Homura's Universe is only "better" for the 6 main girls in that characters who are dead are alive now (Nagisa/Sayaka) and those who were alone are now with someone (Mami, Homura, Kyoko). However for Magical Girls in general its not any better than Madoka's world because they still have to fight wraiths to receive purification.
What we theorize: The afterlife that Madokami created was only possible because of Madoka's humanity. Otherwise we suspect that goddess Madoka only does what Madoka wished for; which is destroying witches before they are born. Human Madoka is the one who changed things so that magical girls have an afterlife and learn to accept their witch nature-gaining dominance over it. With that in mind Homura's world would actually be worse since now we have no idea what happens to Magical Girls' souls.
Love, she's not here yet.
Never noticed how similar that scene is to the one where Sayaka violates Madoka in broad daylight.
Why are meguca's so lewd?
I think this is silly. Madokami is still out there doing her full job, but she doesn't have access to her original human part.
Homura's crime was violating Madoka's trust on a very deep level.
What does that even mean.
>So from what we know: Homura's Universe is only "better" for the 6 main girls in that characters who are dead are alive now
Not really, the only one who truly has a better life is Madoka, all the other girls have to keep fighting for the rest of their lives in danger of dying at any time, for everything else, yes.
At least Homura is in charge of the incubators now.
I thought it was said that the Law of Cycles was some giant collective, and the so-called afterlife is just an existence for souls in the law of cycles.
>Homura's Universe is only "better" for the 6 main girls...
Homura's Universe is better for everyone.
Everyone can prosper in Homura's Universe.
Life is better in Homura's Universe.
Praise be to Homura.
Homura's Universe is better for everyone.
Everyone can prosper in Homura's Universe.
Life is better in Homura's Universe.
Praise be to Homura
I seriously question the common interpretation of that. We see Ai in her packaging right before Homula rides the gondola. Can't "Love has yet to arrive" be interpreted as how Homura had yet to awaken to the reality of her situation? This makes sense when you consider that Ai is Homura, and that Homura is figuratively the last person to show up to her own funeral procession--every one of her familiars was already aware of it, only Homura needed to 'arrive'.
That is a good point, I mean it's not like wraiths are all that much weaker than witches. Sayaka died in Madoka's universe, so all of them are capable of dying in this new universe.
I think the difference though is that Homura will probably intervene to keep them all from dying to Wraiths simply because "Madoka wouldn't like it if you died here."
In fact I predict Homura will save Sayaka from a wraith attack with her familiars using that logic in the sequel.
In conclusion, as anyone who saw the movie can attest, Love certainly does arrive.
Love is a NEET!
If that's the case then doesn't that mean the audience has no reason to support whoever (most likely Sayaka) tries to give Madoka her memories back?
Actually it reminds me of Watchmen where Rorschach telling the truth about Ozymandias's giant squid would threaten the world peace Ozy had artificially created. Most of the "heroes" support keeping it quiet so peace can reign, and among the audience only moralfags would side with Rorschach thinking that the truth has to be revealed at any cost.
Sayaka will become the Rorschach of Madoka Magica.
Madoka wish: "I wish to erase all witches from existence before they're even born. Every witch in the universe, from the past and the future, with my own hands"
Nowhere does it say anything about giving eternal salvation to magical girls or Yuri Valhalla, that was something that Madoka created with her magic independently of her wish, like the muskets of Mami, the Law of Cycles can't create it in her own because she don't have independence or free will.
Except Homura means to destroy the wraiths. In Madokami's world, she could do that no matter how hard she worked, but now she can actually succeed in doing what she meant to do in the first place.
If what you theorize is true, there is no reason for Homura to assure Sayaka that she only took an insignificant portion of the Law of Cycles.
>Rebellion summarized in 3 images
>only cleans up dead megucas
glorious Akuma Homura master race:
>can use her powers according to her own will, with no restrictions so far
the last panel is more this kind of "love"
>Ai is Homura
Ai is not Homura, there is a scene where we see Ai with the magical outfit of Madoka and the gothic loli outfit, and considering the other Clara Doll Ai represents how Homura is not capable of love herself.
>What I snatched away, was just a small fragment.
>From before Madoka came to no longer be Madoka, just the record of her as a human.
Why would LoC lose her free will because of that?
Also, heaven belongs to Gretchen.
Humans have free will
Concepts of a specific wish made by a human I imagine carry out that wish like a robot. Especially when that wish included the part where the human wanted to do it "by her own hands"
Thank you Homura
you saved Madoka from a horrible fate, revived sayaka, and conquered the wicked incubators
2/3 is good enough
>a good thing
1/3 is decent I guess. I mean it is the Incubators we're talking about.
A devil has sexual needs, and she doesn't want to hurt Madoka. Sayaka makes the perfect rape bait.
But Homura didn't do shit to the Incubators, they keep doing the same old shit, in fact they wanted to stop and Homura was like, "Nope, fuck you, keep working".
So it's actually 0/3
Considering she is a part of Madoka now, that makes her best target for Homurape.
Someone has to clean up the wraiths, and Homura is a bit busy.
>Except Homura means to destroy the wraiths.
Destroy the wraiths means destroy mankind, that's not a good thing, anon.
You seriously believe what QB says? Even now? Even after all you've learned?
Homura has them on a leash and she governs it all now instead of leaving them in charge. She conquered them and brought them to heel.
>In terms of intelllgent character development
What does that have to do with anything, nigger? Also,
Are you daft anon? Explain the meaning, the symbolic significance, if you are right and Ai is wearing Madoka's clothing. You can't, because that's stupid.
One doll is Homura and the other one is Madoka. That they're both in their packaging is reference to how both their powers are sealed at that point in the movie.
Clear evidence of this is that Homura's doll has the runes on it and the nutcracker hand crank (Why would she have a handcrank if she isn't Homulilly?), while Madoka's does not. The third line of Ai's runes say 'oniai', which suggest that she complements something else in a par--it's what you would typically see used to advertise two toys that can go together as a pair.
Obviously Homura and Madoka make a complementary pair.
The imagery here is simple to decode. I can't believe how many people are on the wrong track.
I think it works like some sort of Trinity.
Madoka as human -> Madoka as MG -> Madoka as god.
Taking first part away doesn't break the whole system.
>I can't believe how many people are on the wrong track.
>my interpretation of symbolism is the only correct one
Just for this I'm going to ignore you and call you an idiot.
It's not a heavy reference to anything, it's just foreshadowing Homura's true nature. The booklet throws people off because it says "Love has yet to arrive" in present tense, and the reader assumes that it refers to their present time. It actually refers to the present time within the fake Mitakihara.
>the reader assumes that it refers to their present time. It actually refers to the present time within the fake Mitakihara.
uhm, isn't that the same thing?
This argument pops up a lot, and it's retarded. The driving point behind speculation is that you can't prove a negative assertion, so you can't simply write off someone's theorizing without evidence. The only thing you can do is offer up an equally valid positive assertion.
So, if you want to refute someone's interpretation of symbolism, come up with your own way of connecting the dots. Again, go ahead an explain the significance of the notion that the pink doll is simply Ai in Madoka's clothing. What does it mean, anon?
I've only seen the series and the last movie
>and the reader assumes that it refers to their present time. It actually refers to the present time within the fake Mitakihara.
In case you have not noticed, you also are assuming they are only referring to fake Mitakihara
No no. Someone reading the wiki who has seen Rebellion thinks of the entire movie as having taken place in the past, when in reality the booklet was given out to people with their tickets. It's an introduction to the cast, not an explanation of their status after the movie has ended.
So, you've seen the entire series then? Or when you say last movie, do you not actually mean the last movie?
>who is haruhi
the 12 episodes and the last movie which I've been told the movie doesn't exactly go perfectly with the series or something
That's not an assumption, that's how the Clara Dolls are described within the booklet.
>The children of the false city. They play the role of mourners. These dress-up dolls fake crying in order to liven up the funeral procession. The dolls present are Arrogance, Sadsack, Liar, Coldheartedness, Selfishness, Slanderer, Dunce, Jealousy, Lazybones, Vanity, Cowardice, Fool, Bias, and Obstinance, while the last one, Love, has yet to arrive. "The depths of this world, born of form and without void, are our stage," and their power is a match for Magical Girls.
You're even more confused than the average post-Rebellion anon. I don't know where to start.
What are you talking about? Booklet is supposed to be read after the movie, because it contains spoilers.
Everything beyond the actual series isn't worth watching, right?
if you IRC we can tell me all about it anon :3
Don't forget the part about Akuma Homura doing nothing wrong.
Yeah, read TDS if you want learn more about Mami and Kyouko though.
Did some anon who can't enjoy things tell you rebellion was bad?
Rebellion is amazing.
Will you faggots shut up already?
Guess what, the world that Homura created at the end of the movie is also fake, that is the message they want to convey with the similarities to the Nutcracker.
It sounds crappy.
Okay, there's some suffering kids.
Homura becomes a god too (because one wasn't enough)!
Mami and Kyouko completely ignored.
Walls of text saying "HOMU DID NOTHING WRONG MADOKA FOR LIFE"
That's what I'm getting from this.
Again, its written as a cast introduction.
>They play the role of
>"are our stage"
All of Homulilly's familiars are described according to the role they play within her labyrinth. Homura herself is 'unopened', so to speak--as is Madoka.
I have IRC but I've never familiarized myself with it. Whenever I log onto a channel, it's just 300 people who aren't talking. It's weird.
Oh shit, he figured it out.
It's not fake, it's the real world wrapped inside Homura's kakera. Also, the post-rebellion world doesn't involve a funeral procession. It's quite clear that the booklet describes all of Homura's familiars' roles as they play them within the isolation field, where Homulilly's neverending funeral is to be held.
There is zero mention of what they do in Akuma Homura's labyrinth.
Also, you conveniently dropped the subject of "Ai in Madoka's clothing." We can admit that's bullshit, then?
If with "amazing" you mean visually, yeah, those were some sweet animation, everything else was meh.
The whole series is a bunch of homosexual little girls suffering. I liked it at least.
>I have IRC but I've never familiarized myself with it. Whenever I log onto a channel, it's just 300 people who aren't talking. It's weird.
If you're willing to connect to EFnet you can message me there I guess
Rizon is a no I'm banned from there
Which clara would you fug?
>It's not fake
Stop reading right there.
If you've been on /a/ for a duration longer than the human gestational period, you should know that threads about an anime are not reliable indicators for whether you will enjoy that anime or not.
She does shower, though. With a companion.
Mie while Yakimochi and Higami look.
>called out for sidestepping half of the argument
>continue doing so anyway
You must be trying really hard not to say "Fuck off" like you always do.
>posted with wrong trip
(ﾉ ﾟヮﾟ)ﾉ ~┻━┻
offer still stands
Sure, what's the channel?
>Madoka season 2
>SOL about her dolls
#homu I guess
I'm not interested in arguing with you when you proved that you aren't willing to change your mind with this post >>100878190
Have some MadoHomu.
>dat Kyouko body
That frog looks high as fuck.
There's no proof of anything. That's the entire premise of implicit messages.
The problem lies with the fact that one theory presented considers a variety of points and tries to link them all together--the setting, the scene the dolls appear in, the crank, the runes, etc.
Other theories seem unfounded in comparison when the only points presented are "Ai has yet to arrive" and "Ai is wearing Madoka's oufit", with no effort spent on explaining just how those two points relate to each other or the movie.
Right now those points seem awfully non-sequitur because nothing has been established that connects them to the plot.
I want a version of this with Candeloro.
That blanket looks comfy.
Anon where are you
That Moemura has off-the-chart cuteness. I think I need my nutbladder removed.
Trying to re-figure out IRC. I use it once a year and forget the details by the next time I need it.
>Finally got around to watching Madoka and the movies
Man, I don't care about these girls, Kyubey mah niggah. Hope he puts Homura back in her place.
We still haven't seen Homu use any sort of DMR/sniper rifle or revolver. At this rate we never will ;_;
It's sad, but I guess she simply doesn't ever need to learn because labyrinths aren't very spacious. It's mostly CQC, which Homu tackles with all of the precision of a hipfired LMG.
Who said labyrinths can't be spacious open ground? They're supposed to be otherworldly and reflect the witch so anything goes.
She reminds me too much of Fukawa, then I get creeped out.
>She reminds me too much of Fukawa
The glasses, the braided, black twintail hair, always freaking out, etc.
Agreed, there's no reason to suggest that they couldn't be. They just... never are. It's a shame.
That one witch with the clotheslines had an entire sky to it, not to mention Walmart Night
Truly the hero we deserve. Also, is that a ferngully reference?
It's a bigger tragedy to me that we never see Bowmura in action. How strong is she? Did she lose her way, or did she master her despair? I need to know.
I haven't seen it since I could count my age on my hands, but... the smoke coming from the bulldozer, right?
But the jokes are terrible
After a non-specified amount of time she despairs but is encapsulated by Kyubey to study the Law of Cycles, we never actually get to see her use the bow.
But what are the wings? Is the ending scene symbolism or did it really happen? Because it's definitely related to her despair.
She fell into despair in that desert. Black wings are first signs of with transformation, similar things happened to Sayaka in that train.
>Clara dolls playing under the table
that's so adorable. I can't wait for BDs so we can all frame-by-frame every single moment. There are tons of details the camrip misses that we're aware of, so there must be all that much more that we don't know of.
Why is Sayaka such a bitch?
Who needs Kyubey when you have Doraemon.
It's those bottomless magical-girl stomachs.
Why is Sayaka so tiny?
It's like a fucking I Spy book.
So where did the idea that Madoka's powers only work on witches come from? Kyouko's powers as a magical girl seems to work pretty well on Sayaka when they were fighting. Madoka's wish doesn't have anything to do with fighting witches, it has to do with removing the possibility of witches being born. She still has her powers as an ordinary magical girl, only on steroids due to Homu going back so many times, not due to her wish.
Homura did everything wrong.
Madoka can only interact with the world directly when a magical girl's Soul Gem reaches maximum contamination. Well, she may also have been able to appear to her little brother, but that would have been bending the rules.
However, now that Homura rewrote reality, that's no longer necessarily the case. If Madokami reconnects with human Madoka, she'll probably be able to use her powers in the physical world as much as Homura can.
Rebellion is bad.
And everyone who likes it should feel bad.
So which one is better
/k/ Homu or Archer Homu?
I don't have any idea what these posts have to do with my post
>S-stop liking things I don't like, guys
>implying it is about opinionated taste
>implying rebellion is not objectively bad
>implying your shit opinion is objective
"If you can only live by holding onto that ideal, drown in your ideals."
Even her own despair and living hell are just tools for her ends. Homu a pragmatic.
Homu's gonna have to grit those teeth
Akemi Homura from same show.
Venus a shit.
Yea, anything that isn't low tier moeshit