Why didn't Khara just make movie versions of RETAKE?
It would have actually made the Rebuild movies good.
because that would make sense
all attempts to "fix" Eva always have some horribly retarded third act.
It's like Eva is cursed or something, why can't they just make it like it was originally intended, a coming of age super robot story about a anxious kid who grows a pair, gives the finger to his father, defeat the aliens, stop the 3rd impact, and gets with one of the two girls or Kaworu or Misato at the end.
because then it wont be "emo".
angtsy kids always mistaken emo for deep.
Like TTGL but not over the top
or Gunbuster but not "based on a tennis manga" and the MC is male
Because retake is shitty fan fiction.
and Rebuild isn't?
And 3.33 fucking isn't?
>Gunbuster but not "based on a tennis manga"
Excuse my ignorance but wat
Reminder that Anno hates you.
Aim for the Ace
All I wanted was Misato to take advantage of him. Just once.
But Anno hates me.
I like Rebuild. I liked Retake too, except for all the really forced porn and Rei killing herself for whatever reason.
That's not what Eva was intended to be originally at all you fucking retard.
So replace shit with more shit?
I'm complaining about the series trying to "fix" Eva not the original, which also goes against what it was intended but they do it anyway
keep the original as is but quit with the retired third act shit if remaking
No because Anno isn't a fan of Eva.
Are you for real, OP?
>there are people who believes in this
All of this happens in EoE. Well, the last part is up in the air, but it's not like they have many other options at the moment.
>Still using emo as an insult.
Is it 2005?
Yes, I am.
You're the cancer that killed Eva.
yes and no
-he doesn't grow he kinda represses
-it was Rei that ultimately told Gendo to fuck off
-he stops the third impact, sort of, it was in the process
-he didn't choose any girls, they were either broken or dead
-he did kill the aliens though
if you're going to be the "fixing of Evangelion" remake it should be more straight-laced and optimistic.
I liked it, does that make you fanny flustered?
Originally I thought people wouldn't mistake "more dark = more deep" after 05.
I was wrong and as such the word is still appropriate
It makes your taste shit, that's for sure.
The entire purpose of EoE is to show Shinji finally conquering his hedgehog's dilemma and accepting the pain that comes with getting close to others. Also he saves humanity in the process.
How is that regression?
I be you fags wanted NGE's original ending of Shinji fighting a mutated giant Gendo
You probably weren't alive when I was watching Eva, but okay.
Evafags only care about the waifus
Complete with Akira-like TETSUOOOOO? Fuck yes.
He only really overcomes the hedgehog's dilemma through magic Tang. Doesn't exactly make for an optimistic ending for all the people stuck in the real world.
Why? What makes a nontraditional ending 'wrong', like you are implying by saying it needs 'fixing? Do you have a single real reason outside of it not being what you personally wanted?
you mean like the manga?
he wasn't giant, but had enough AT field to fuck up the UN corps.
I just want some closure after EoE's ending. Did they fuck and make babies? How many people came back? Did Shinji become a bigger man?
He solves all his other problems with a magic robot, who gives a fuck?
he kinda doesn't
unless you are one of those people who believe episodes 25-26 occur after EoE, the guy after injuring his friend and killing his boyfriend is left a complete wreck. He gets convinced to fight only to hesitate and have Asuka get picked apart right in front of him, when he finally snaps out of that and is ready to go he gets mindraped by the third impact.
Not the most heroic sequence of events
woops, forgot image.
EoE didn't deliver a full happy ending with hugs and manly speeches? Big deal, you have plenty of animes according to your especifications.
His final act in the movie is heroic, ending 3rd impact and instrumentality. Also he has a long monologue while this is happening where he specifically communicates to the viewer that he's conquered the hedgehog's dilemma.
I bet you're one of those people who can't pay attention and posts a "What the fuck did I just watch?" thread after viewing.
>not heroic = Bad writing, needs another ending for making it heroic
This is why anime will always be a medium for children and manchildren. The fandom won't shut up and let the staff to do their own thing even with bishoujos, mechas and fanservice.
Well his other problems are magic giant aliens. So the robot makes a little more sense. Getting over depression doesn't require an orange beverage substitute laced LSD and people.
I'm not complaining, but people make it sound like it wasn't an asspull solution in EoE/25&26.
God, that was fucking stupid.
>His final act in the movie is heroic, ending 3rd impact and instrumentality.
Which he started, nothing heroic about starting then ending them because he regrets his actions.
>Nothing heroic about conquering yourself and doing the right thing.
keep in mind I said "keep the original as is"
we are talking about fixing the remake which already was trying to make Eva more optimistic.
After killing everyone and turning them into Tang I'm sure they'll accept his simple apology.
Shinji didn't even start third impact, the entire first half of the movie is Seele initiating it. The only reason anybody survived is because Rei gave Shinji control after 3rd impact had begun, and he rejected it.
If not for him, Seele or Gendo would have had their way.
The only real special thing NGE has is how fucked up the characters are. Without the hedhehog dilemma, it'd be an extremely generic otaku wish fullfilment scenario Like 2,0. It doesn't help how many times Eva has been copied,
SEELE or Gendo didn't have control because Rei betrayed Gendo. It was Shinji that decided that everyone should die before changing his mind.
Sounds like you are just being a pretentious twat.
>Why didn't Khara just make movie versions of RETAKE?
>implying they didn't
Just replace Asuka with Kaworu and you're all set.
But most people here are male, therefore it's stupid and it ruined Eva forever. Nevertheless, the same shit with Asuka in Kaworu's place is a 10/10 masterpiece way better than EoE
>Asuka piano scene
The only way 3.0 could have been even more hilarious.
Its most definitely not heroic.
Leave my waifu alone.
Wasn't the piano scene basically the Shinji and Asuka's syncronization exercise from episode 9? Only with pianos for making it "classy"
>everyone finds love in the end
Rebuild occurs after EoE
>adapted by the nips
Freezing is shit
Explains why everyone is retarded.
Eva was better when it was inspired by Devilman instead of trying to be Devilman
Considering Asuka had to take a whole episode to synchronize with Shinji whereas Kaworu had to take 2 milliseconds, I doubt it's the same thing.
You mean gay
It's the same basic idea. Working to sync the minds and bodies together. It just took Asuka so long cause her and Shinji really aren't compatible at all.
But Shinji can sync flawlessly with Rei and Kaworu.
They're different, Asuka's was more action base while the piano one was a soul sync.
If Kaworu and Shinji had to actually work to sync their minds and bodies together, then you'd have a point but they don't. Seems like the piano scene was just used to show Kaworu and Shinji are automatically synced with each other, so they can pilot the Eva.
>Implying homosexuality isn't classy
Drag queens and gay parades have gave a bad rep to homosexuality but since Ancient Greek until late 19th century, early 20th century, there wasn't anything more classy than man crushes
The gay piano scene was a lame fanservice-driven knock-off from episode 9 but still a knock-off.
They didn't have to work for it though, that's my point. Just like how Shinji could dance with Rei immediately but fail with Asuka.
Kaworu and Shinji's souls/minds are crazy compatible (kindred spirits and whatever). The piano playing I think was a combination copying that episode and Kaworu trying to bring up Shinji's self confidence with something fun.
I hope that theory that Kaworu and Shinji are the same person ends up being true.
I have a selfcest fetish
Shinji's still a faggot
Moon Shinji theory?
retake is fucking dumb, it reeks of fanfiction smegma so much it's repungant. Pregnancy? They're fucking 14
I think I read in a magazine once that fourteen yearolds actually can get pregnant. I don't know how tru it is tho.
of course they can but it makes no sense for the characters, then again they act a lot more emotionally aged/sexualised than most 14 year olds anyway. They even look older.
Asukas complains about her period in the tv series. So yes she can get pregnant.
>Karl life councilor.
I think I like this?
shinji has sexual feelings for asuka and kaworu, and to a lesser exent rei/misato. He's not gay, that's just as selective an interpretation as saying that kaworu/shinji totally aren't homo for each other
>people actually liked retake
He's probably gay bro.
He's bisexual. At least for Kaworu. Maybe Kaji too.
>making shitty fapfiction into a movie
I guess Asukafags think RETAKE is their bible.
Retake isn't even good for Asuka. I feel its a total insult to her character and everyone else in the cast.
Get in my fucking pants Shinji
And then they went on a date. Kaji us a player.
I always thought this scene was hilariously ridiculous, c'mon shinji he's asking you for a coffee not to suck his dick, and then with kaworu you don't question anything.
Most Asukafags don't care about Asuka as a character but as a virtual girlfriend
when has doujin or fanfiction ever really done right by character
there was this one monogatari doujin where the character interactions were actually believable
shame i forgot the name though
Why are Reifags always so mad?
Is there such a thing as TOO gay?
Because Rei Q? Because the manga? Because Anno?
I dunno, most of them seemed to have calmed down since then.
they kiss in the sadamoto manga
Fucking 3.0 chins, I still dont get why nobody pointed this out during production.
is anyone a reifag? srsly? the only thing that happens between them is slight sexual tension born of the situations they find themselves in rather than there characters (discounting 3.0).
>You'll never help Asuka find value in something outside of the praise of other people.
They're doing more than kissing in what I'm reading.
I honestly don't think shinji's a homo, just that he has an isolated relationship with kaworu because they are perfect for each other, I mean I'm a homo, just to clarify this isn't selective homophobic interpretation talking.
The rational ones relocated to /c/ and that rei-ayanami/asuka-soryuu site. Honestly, there's no reason for a Reifag to remain here other than to constantly remind themselves of what they lost with 3.33.
Someone did mention the chins in one of the 7,202,251 posts when 3.33 came out
Stick to the seasonal haremshit and leave the Eva threads. Then you can pretend you're the MC and cure the tsundere with a hug and your cock
is there a good scan of the Evangelion manga
Yeah, it's definitely a little more ambiguous in the series than people give it credit for, I think.
...what was the point of that scene anyway? like all I got from it was misato was a desperate bitch and fell back on the thing she always did in emotional situations, sex; But the direction implied it was a good thing.
My cock doesn't fix anything, it only makes things worse.
I thought the death threats were fake and that Gainax just created and put them there
That's your problem
wow this is the first japanese text thing I can read, exept for the last panel.
Same here. I can read 死ね but not what's on the left.
Soon. . .
Maybe because it's all kana?
Isn't Evageeks that pompous site where they think they are the elite of the elite in fans and the only ones that comprehend everything about it?
Kinda like the Snakesoup for MGS games or RPGcodex for anything rpg related
Pretty much, but they also translate shit.
>It just took Asuka so long cause her and Shinji really aren't compatible at all.
Then why did she kiss him?
>But most people here are male, therefore it's stupid and it ruined Eva forever.
3.33 wasn't ruined because Kaworu was gay, it was ruined because of ridiculous amounts of trolling on Anno's part. At least RE-TAKE has the justification of taking place in parallel dream-universes rather than a massive, pointless timeskip that completely rewrites the original canon.
She was bored :^)
3.0 is love. 3.0 is life.
Anno still has it. We should be honored to live in this time, awaiting FINAL and what should hopefully be a grand new conclusion to the EVA Multiverse.
God's in his heaven. All's right with the world.
>Then why did she kiss him?
She had feelings for him, but remember what happened afterwards?
>implying Rebuild isn't just one of many parallel dream-universes
Whatever, I'll just start developing Asuka/Rei bots
some of them are elitist, but there are a few intelligent, quality posters who are a boon to EVA fandom
they also realize the worth of 3.0. see attached
>fantastic animation, direction, character writing
>plot holes so large you could drive an 18-wheeler through them
The problems with 3.0 are the problems with the whole series.
That has nothing to so with their compatibility with Eca. That kiss came out of teenage frustration and Asuka's own issues of needing constant attention that Shinji is unable to give her thanks to his own problems.
Regardless, she is just not as compatible with Shinji on any level as much as Rei or Kaworu. Simple as that.
Nothing will make EVA good.
>>implying Rebuild isn't just one of many parallel dream-universes
No, it's a sequel or some shit oh god I don't even know anymore
3.33 is fucking retarded
What if Anno personally hangs himself in 4.0?
Because she wanted him to feel validated so he would get the motivation to get off his ass.
>4.0 is 1 shot 4 hour Anno monolouge of misanthropy climaxing with his seppuku, but instead of the assistant decapitating him he just screams obscenities and slowly dies over the course of another few hours.
>hey Shinji wanna pay attention to me?
>the numerous narrative ellipses are very much intentional
I can't count the number of times I've seen people say this about things that do, in fact, end up being as retarded as they appear, like Penguindrum, Aquarion EVOL, or KLK.
Misato is a bonobo
That's why she offered to kiss him, she wanted some attention.
FINAL can't save this garbage. It'd have to be at least 5 hours long.
You're just as dense as Shinji.
FINAL being the greatest movie of all time wouldn't make 3.0 less shit.
Plotholes aren't even the problem with 3.0. The problem with 3.0 is that it is entirely dependent on everyone acting like a fucking retard.
That wouldn't change a thing.
He has already told the EVA fanbase they are reading way to much into it and that he really wasn't thinking about anything while writing it.
He tried to do his part to stop the spread of autism but, it was too late.
it would be dubbed the citizen kane of movies
at least by /a/
>The problem with 3.0 is that it is entirely dependent on everyone acting like a fucking retard.
No that's just a problem with EVA in general
All we can hope is that Final will be good as its own thing, but there is no redemption for Q, even if Final use its setting on a masterful way, the fact that Q is bad will never change.
the only time I can recall that being the case was shinji in the climax, besides that everything was fine, what issues do you have?
That isn't the point.
We want him to kill himself as an apology.
>lets see I know that the real Rei is inside Unit 01 so I'll explain it to Shinji at this critical moment
>"Ayanami doesn't exist anymore"
>implying authorial intent matters
But I love Anno, even if he hates his fan and himself more.
Why, he has show you how horrible his writing is, something the rest of us have know for quite some time
Fuck off with your death of the writer bullshit
He doesn't hate his fans enough not to take their money.
I couldn't help but laugh when I got to this scene
He's so WIDE
It isn't trolling simply because it didn't align perfectly with the fanfic scenario you had envisioned for all your pet characters prior to 2.0/3.0's release. Shinji and Rei would interact in such-and-such a way, Asuka and Gendo would have a scene, this particular BGM would play during the Bardiel fight, etc. ad nauseum.
"Pointless timeskip" is a misleading assertion that should instead read "a plot development I personally didn't like;" "complete rewrites original canon" is not only patently wrong, but likely grounded in hilariously incorrectly assumptions about Anno's right to modifying the narrative/plot. Insofar as this is likely an alternate timeline, as many believe and as a plethora of details corroborate, no "canon" is being "rewritten;" it's simply being extended, given it's the work of a vast majority of the original NGE production with a storyboard and script largely written by the creator himself. You're simply throwing out buzzwords and generalized (and misapplied) concepts to afford an air of legitimacy to what is nothing more than personal dissatisfaction with the plot.
You're allowed to dislike the film on the grounds it represents the characters and advances the plot in ways you don't prefer. Nothing wrong with that. But, to try and validate your disdain with rudimentary analysis and dubious likening (and comparison to a polarizing fanfic, no less) is just transparent and awful.
tl;dr: You're probably a Reifag. BAW WHAT DID THEY DO TO HER THAT ISN'T MUH REI
Nah, in the series everyone's actions, like, make sense? Even if they make bad decisions, they're usually still justifiable.
Shinji dropping about 50 IQ points in the finale isn't even the worst thing: the entire situation presented in 3.0 could have been avoided if Misato had simply been upfront with him from the start.
That's bad writing.
if you were to take authorial intent it would leave most of the critical study of the works of:
bunk, to name a few, it does not matter and why should it?
I'm pretty sure there's at least one author out there who has said shit about his works for the express purpose to piss off everybody.
that fucking walk.
No, er, I'm an Asukafag. That's why I like RE-TAKE.
It's trolling because it deliberately does the opposite of what the fanbase expected it to do but goes so far in that direction that it's incapable of recovering from it. None of the plot developments make sense: the timeskip and the CURSE OF EVA that was invented solely to hide the timeskip from the fanbase prior to the film's release, Shinji's regression into a useless idiot after all his character development to the contrary, the complete lack of explanations for the increasingly ridiculous terminology, and yes, the homosexual tension, all these things are designed solely to piss everyone who watched the movie off and don't actually have any real meaning or point behind them other than that.
If you think that FINAL can somehow save this complete mess, you're retarded.
What. Not that guy even, but you don't have to be a dollfag to realize that 3.0 was weak as hell. Good music and visuals, but that's about it.
Kids about as strait as a circle.
>No one fucking talks to each other about shit until they have a fucking emotional break down
>No one fucking talks to each other even though though the world is at stake.
>Everyone acts like a child
I think it was a bad thing. She accidentally hurt him even more.
Why is he SO GAY?
it's amazing how much you assume your views are the views of every eva fan, and how much you make a fool out of yourself as a result.
Looking at Shinji with an angry face hurts him
sounds a lot like how people act in emotionally straining situations to me
He's fragile like glass.
We're all children at heart, anon.
The thing is that in the original series, the events that occur hinge more on the machinations of Gendo and SEELE than they do on the inability of the characters to actually explain shit to each other.
In 3.0, everyone hides the truth from or outright lies to Shinji for no reason, and this leads to him suddenly becoming an impulsive retard and nearly bringing about the end of the world. Again.
Also, the new Unit 01 having two entry plugs is really fucking dumb.
>it's amazing how much you assume your views are the views of every eva fan
But what if he's actually right and the people who enjoyed 3.0 and thought it had any sense of cogency are idiots?
Because that's what's going on.
I know that Reifags on /a/ have been incredibly vocal of 3.33, but shit man criticizing 3.33 is not just restricted to them.
Manga > Rebuild 1,2 > TV+EoE >>>> 3.33
>anno wants more kawoshin
>anno can't write plot
>2 entry plugs is all he can think of
>having two entry plugs is really fucking dumb
Most Eva fans seem to hate 3.0 for similar reasons though! Pretending as though everyone hates it just because they're a Reifag or a homophobe is overly reductive and idiotic, there are far greater issues with the film than just pairing bullshit.
We don't even fucking know what his intent was...
Modern art is meaningless unless you like the smell of your farts.
>there are far greater issues with the film than just pairing bullshit.
That's true but most of the whining is burthurt over that.
This was one hell of an overreaction to someone saying that ReTake would have been better than 3.33. Probably because it would have been better.
watching eva for cogency is the dumbest comment I've heard on this thread, it's the least cogent sci-fi ever, that's it's whole fucking appeal and why we can still have headed arguments about it do this day, it's fractured and enigmatic.
that guy isn't even a reifag and I didn't say 3.33 was without criticism, but to assume it's a troll because you don't like it is remarkably entitled and foolish.
Shinji and Kaworu being the same person would help to make 3.0 slightly less shit.
No, other otherwise wars could not be fought because everyone would be to busy crying.
It's really easy to notice when people are keeping shit from you but, they all chose to ignore it.
we have about as much evidence for homer existing as we do jesus, and that's pretty flippant of you to dismiss every artwork made post WW1
Shinji still wouldn't love you're waifu though.
>but to assume it's a troll because you don't like it is remarkably entitled and foolish.
I assume it's a troll because it has stuff like Asuka going on about how she can't age because of the Curse of Eva wink wink nudge nudge otaku are disgusting for sexualizing little girls nudge nudge.
I don't even understand how you got to this conclusion, elaborate?
Does anyone actually want Shinji to love they're waifu?
>it's the least cogent sci-fi ever
There are actually a lot more cogent sci-fi anime out there that surpass, Eva, like GitS, but yeah Eva's definitely up there.
However, NGE+EoE felt vague without being forced while 3.33 was tryhard writing attempting to follow its original's path. Nothing was cleverly hidden. Everything was thrown in your face because loljustbecause
you know you keep saying that but mancrushes were generally frowned upon. only way you could pull that off is if you were wealthy and already had a wife/family and being the bottom was spaghetti-rier
Why didn't you save the one with the dildos?
Dat Unit-05 leg, something is not right
There must be if not there wouldn't be so much crying over who Shinji does love.
I never expected him to end up with anyone in canon, that's what RE-TAKE is for.
If Shinji and Kaworu are the same person and Shinji just happens to be insane, it helps to justify his actions during the finale. Doesn't explain who was collar though.
why did he do the fan pandering suit thing in 2.0 then?and besides snide jabs at otaku have been a part of eva since the beginning, that hardly makes the whole thing a troll.
Next time have some faith.
It time to resurrect Moon Shinji theory. Do it ARK.
Homers stories are entertaining, a lot of artwork post the great war are skill based or entertainment based and are real art because they tell you what they are.
>why did he do the fan pandering suit thing in 2.0 then?
Because Anno has no idea what the fuck he's doing anymore.
It's sci-fantasy not sci-fi
>fantasy isn't fiction
>real art tells you what it is
Winning is different from getting Shinji to love you.
The reaction to 4.0 will be the greatest thing ever.
The TV series was pretty straightforward until the finale, really. 3.0, however, tells you absolutely nothing about anything and while I see that some people are claiming that this is "the point", it's actually because there -is- no explanation for anything.
It's just a bunch of nonsense.
So you're saying any artwork that isn't modern or surreal isn't art.
>and orchestrated all of 3.33 in spite of ME! The machievellian swine!
>but this one part was just a mistake
What you don't like it? Shit was sexy.
The best, most satisfying part of 3.0 was Asuka slapping Shinji around at the end after dragging him out of the entry plug.
Asuka is our hero.
I'm not the only person who felt unbelievably trolled by 3.0, dude.
>3x the fujoshi than the 3.0 generals
I-I'm not sure I want to go through with this
the show still has a buttload of loose ends, it only really has conventional narrative/anime flow for the first 12 or so episodes
no, you're saying any artwork that isn't modern or surreal explains itself to you like you're in a fucking pre-school?
Prepare your anus or become a faggot before the time comes.
It does explain itself, you just reading into to fucking my because your headmates don't think anything cant be fucking simple.
>it only really has conventional narrative/anime flow for the first 12 or so episodes
It's still fantastically better at offering explanations than 3.0 is despite all the abstract crap that happens in the last third of the show.
A lot of male evafags would celebrate if Shinji was erased from the continuity. In fact, only a vocal minority on /a/ and evageeks would miss Shinji at all.
>caring about shippershit badly draw fanfiction
He'll win more money animating Cassino's doujins.
that's because the tetralogy is incomplete
I like shinji....
Changed in Rebuild. Now he felt flushered and turned on.
Why was Gendo opposed to Seele's version of instrumentality? Seemed to me like they were exactly the same.
Shinji is only liked by a small minority and most of them are just sexually confused male anons
I thought Evageeks were just more people complaining about how much of a pussy he is.
I'm pretty sure I'd miss him as well though :_:
Pretentious Old men
Running the world
>sexually confused male anons
That's only partially correct.
So what will happen if Asuka vanishes from the franchise? Yuko Miyamura's health is a concern. I'm not a characterfag in Eva (my waifu is Ami Mizuno and I don't cheat), but she's one of my favorite characters.
>tfw Asuka gets hit by the Spear of Cassius and dies in 4.0
stop successfully profiling me
>that's because FINAL is still being written, just like how 3.0's script was only finished a month before release
Fixed that for you.
He wasn't interested on Mari tits when them smashed on his face either.
Only a vocal minority. The rest will be too busy pairing Kaworu with the girls and making long "essays" of why Mari is a deconstruction of fanservice
They can always replace her seiyuu if worse comes to worse.
sauce on that comment?
do ho ho
VAs aren't that hard to replace. It will be like any long-time animated character.
WORST COMES TO WORST
Manga Shinji > Rebuild Shinji > Anime Shinji
from the homosexual level scale. Anime Shinji only was after one dick, Kaworu's, and Anime Kaworu was the most feminine looking of the Kaworus (he even looked more girly than Asuka and Rei in most of his scenes).
Honestly if Shinji was absent from any future installments I'd be perfectly fine with that. I'm not even someone that hates the character or anything. It just feels like the focus on him is holding back the franchise at this point.
Asuka sells very well so she can't disappear. Probably Khara would replace her with a new young VA and make some metatextual joke a la Fresh Prince in Bel Air
Rebuild Shinji is 100% homo.
You realize Japanese hardly do this? They are stupidly loyal.
Fresh Prince OF Bel Air
What if they have no choice?
Manga Shinji is 100% homo. Rebuild Shinji is 70%.
I know, and they've only replace seiyuu from long running characters unless the seiyuus have died or retired.
And Miyamura might just have to retire if she loses her voice completely.
What would be leave though? Only tits, explosions and Kaworu. Rebuild made huge efforts to remove every hint of humanity from the characters. ITOH, the fandom would love an Eva anime with just tits, explosions and Kaworu and none of that psychological stuff, the fandom always hated it anyway
Wasn't it the one where Araragi plays twister with Nadeko? Oh man I love when doujins actually get the characters right
I hope she'll be fine. I'm worried if there will be more projects after Final she can't voice. She also lives in Australia, the seiyuu is only her second job and has a family and her first job to worried about.
What keeps her going is her love for the character.
>giving a shit
SHINJI IS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT
THAT'S LIKE SAYING YOU WOULD PREFER MARCH OF THE PENGUINS WITHOUT PENGUINS.
General Japanese public doesn't care about the psychological stuff either. They just wanna see Rei, Unit 01 and Kaworu.
>Miyamura might just have to retire if she loses her voice completely.
Get a new cast, shift each characters roles, introduce new members and see what it changes? A setting is the most important part of a franchise and Eva has a pretty good one to set new stories in.
And modern Anno cares a lot about their opinion. See the curse of Evas
Well I think she was retiring from the character she's been voicing in Detective Conan due to her voice.
Perhaps extensive rest and treatment will keep her voice okay. Asuka is the only role she still does now.
cause gendo's version means he is the god of the united world and they can fuck right off? just throwing ideas here
Eva has always been about the characters. It might be for the psychological stuff or for selling dakimuras but Eva is about the characters
He doesn't have to be the whole point. You have a setting and you have characters to make a story. Either one can be replaced and in this case it'd be the characters.
Well Eva was always Anno's outlet for his personal problems... but he's married and happy now. He probably wants Evangelion to be more than just "these fucked up people and sexual frustrations: the anime."
Depends if he can make the series still worthwhile with a new focus though.
That doesn't mean you're limited to one set of them. Unless you're saying you don't think Anno could write another set of characters.
>Why didn't Khara just make movie versions of RETAKE?
That's what they did, and it sucks.
>answering in Japanese
She doesn't speak English?
haven't seen this yet, need a watching order.
so far, as far as google has told me
01-24 -> EoE -> 25-26 then what?
is this wrong or right? spoonfeed me
Does anyone think Anno has browsed the net for Eva hentai just to see how pathetic people are?
Japanese people rarely speak in English because they are insecure about their sentence structure/accent, considering how much asian accents get the piss taken out of them by the west.
B-but Engrish is cute
CCB that Singaporean accent.
Why do so many people call him whiny?kids like 14 give him a break.Am i the only one that enjoyed him other than a few weird scenes.
Now stop being a fucking nerd.
Kaji's engrish in 2.0 put my sides in orbit
Age up Asuka to match her new voice. Break the curse of Eva and have her as 29 years old.
>K: So the new film, they changed Asuka’s name from Soryuu to Shikinami. Is there a reason?
Y: It seems like there IS a reason or the name change. But I can’t exactly say… I have heard from the director a possible reason but whether it’s a lie or he changes his mind or it’s just a trick. I don’t know it either. But… there is a purpose behind that.
Cause morons only watch the dub and Spike Spencer makes Shinji an whiny, unsympathetic character.
Also, idiots going into the show expecting a super robot protagonist like Domon. Those people don't deserve to be listened to.
Just watch all 26 episodes first, then EoE.
After watch the Rebuild movies in release order, 4.0 is not out yet.
No one has every had a good argument against this.
Now that's a plan I can get behind.
I'm sure he searched for BL material with Kaworu, just for scientific reseatch
Well he know Ishida knows a lot about Anno's plans (probably more than most of the cast), not surprised Yuko knows a bit too.
They're both fairly shitty. Granted, Rebuild 1.11 was actually pretty great. 2 was very good, although I wasn't entirely satisfied with it. 3 just jumped into a pool of shit.
I would have preferred a direct remake of the original show with slight alterations. Or a similar story set in another place and with a different cast of characters. United States, Russia, etc.
People get blamed for shit they didn't do everyday. It''s just life. Except for Shinji, it's a bit more extreme since he lives in a fantasy world with crazy alien shit.
The only good english was in the episode where 'murrika ships over toji's unit, they may have actually been americans for all I know
Evafags would send more dead threats than in the 90s and modern Anno doesn't want to lose their yens.
Except the entire "moral" fall apart if Shinji isn't worse than x1000 Hitlers. Anno and co. actually think Willie did nothing wrong
God, you can't even understand what he's saying. Literally gibberish.
i suspect that voice actor can't even speak english and is just reading his lines phonetically.
Year 2018 - Deconstruct of Rebuild of Evangelion announced.
>NO STOP SHINJI DON'T STAB THE THING
>FUCK YOU ONLY PERSON I TRUST I'M STABBING THE THING BECAUSE THE PLOT SAYS I HAVE TO
this is literally the only situation which I thought "fuck you shinji"
even then is actions make sense, if stabbing it is literally all he has in terms of life ambition at this point.
thanks mates. i'm going to post in shows i know about before coming back
To be fair, Kaworu didn't even do anything to stop him after the first time he told him.
>Don't pull them, Shinji!
>Fuck off faggot-kun!
Kaworu was the one to tell him that the spears would make everything better again anyways.
Nah, they'll just give us a new TV anime that takes place during the timeskip.
It will have Kaworu as the protagonist and make him into a DEEP character.
Even for a phonetic reading it's pretty fucking bad.
Does this mean KaworuxEvery Eva girl is finally happening?
I can hear Shinji crying in the distance.
But Shinji locked Kaworu out of the controls. Kaworu wasn't able to do shit after that. Also, he initially told him he had a "bad feeling about this". He never told him not to do it until the last second.
It didn't help Asuka was screaming and attacking like a maniac when Shinji was still friendly and want to talk
This alone is great evidence that Kaworu was never real to begin with.
Too bad that's not going to happen.
>if stabbing it is literally all he has in terms of life ambition at this point.
Right, but refusing to listen to the -one person- who has shown him love and affection in his ENTIRE LIFE is just... no, fuck you Anno.
He was going to stab the thing, she had to stop him somehow
I fucking hope so, I'd love to see Kaworu interact with Asuka and Mari.
this will not/should not happen
Not if Shinji was in a calm situation. He was strung high the moment Asuka showed up, then Kaworu got all quiet and you could tell he was stressing out like crazy and just wanted things to be normal.
If Asuka hadn't shown up, Kaworu probably would have been able to talk Shinji out of it. BUT, this is one of Rebuild Shinji's flaws, his in ability to stop and think once he's driven by his emotions.
Akira Ishida as a soft, effeminate harem lead would be wonderful, my god
What if Shinji is mai waifu?
shes hardly on death's door
___I kind of agree
Kaworu can have Shinji as his stay-home waifu while he goes out and does cool stuff with the girls.
>BUT, this is one of Rebuild Shinji's flaws
"Flaws", more like "excuse for miserable things to happen".
Have her played in Japanese by Tiffany Grant?
Okay, yeah that's too. Lots of things in the Rebuild films have been "excuses for x to happen." But in the context of the narrative it's a flaw.
I wouldn't be surprised if she learned Jap for the express purpose of understanding Asuka-related merchandise in Japanese.
Yes I love my teenagers sounding like 40 year old hags
/a/ will never really appreciate nor acknowledge with much consideration, how Shinji had his face shoved into Mari's breasts in 2.0.
That shit was fucking awful. Fuck 2.0.
Which format do you choose?
>tape head is a common point of failure on vhs
Fuck, I just got it
>implying Tiffany Grant doesn't make Asuka sound extremely fuckable
She was fluent in German when she first voiced Asuka, I doubt she'd NOT take the time to learn at least passable Nip in her time doing voice work.
The OST was the only good thing about 3.0.
Actually it was even stupider, it started as just "Very Homo Sexual"
>be the most powerful angel
>can take of the DSS choker with ease and walk through that place destroyed by N3I without a suit
>doesn't know how to forcefully take control of the Eva himself, or at least won't even try
Come the fuck on, Kaworu.
super digital audio tape
this is simultaneously the saddest and funniest thing I have read on /a/
Was Kaworu really the most powerful angel
That's one fucking disgusting story
well, that's disappointing
But HD DVD lost.
Yes his power just blows my mind.
Was Kaworu real to begin with
He did though, he took control of the Eva later and made it stab itself with the lances.
Fucking lost it
Too bad Final won't be as good.
Well, it's a chart that puts Shinji as Betamax and Rei as Blu-Ray just because of the pun.
Not in RE-TAKE!
He's the only character in Rebuild who seems to have past memories. (SEELE/Gendo may have them too thanks to the scrolls, that's my speculation) and he's Adam THE FIRST.
Have you seen the pachinko videos of him one-shotting the Angels with his longinus. He's most powerful.
Maybe poor Kaworu just got scared.
I am still most definitely jelly of that collection.
>YFW 4.0 REVEALS KAWORU WAS SHINJI'S IMAGINARY FRIEND THE ENTIRE TIME
I'm honestly going to be surprised if Final even comes out at this point.
No. We're not going to talk about Re-Take.
You will never goto the onsen with Kaworu and Shinji.
But then who was DSS Choker?
>fluent in German
Conversational maybe, she definitely didn't have the accent down.
I really wish this would happen
There's no saving 3.0, it feels like the second part of a trilogy and will never stop feeling that way, but at least if they work hard they can make 4.0 worthwhile
>being an angel and getting "scared"
>having any actual human emotions
>implying it takes even the average person several fucking minutes to think about switched spears and then do nothing about it
Let's talk about Re-Take!
It's so nice to Reifags.
I want to know exactly how Kaworu was "tricked" and clueless, when he threw the lance at the end of 2.0 and stopped the third impact in the first place?
We are, though.
I consider it to be honorary canon, it's too good to just ignore.
Besides, as an Asukafag it's the only happy ending for her I'm ever going to get.
Do any of the other characters even interact with Kaworu in the rebuilds? Or even in NGE?
Gendo took it off, but shinji hates gendo, so he thought his imaginary Kaworu took it off of him?
Eh, the best way to get the accent down is to just sound pissed off when you speak it.
Protip: the "Kaworu" in 3.0 and the Kaworu at the end of 2.0 are not the same character
That would be very interesting to watch actually
I just threw up in my mouth. I really hope that was sarcasm or just a joke.
>All those fangirl tears
That would be fucking hilarious in general.
Somebody email Anno.
Luckily with self inserting I can go on an onsen trip with mai waifu.
can someone fucking tell me why kaworu can remove the dds choker? and why he cant just throw it away instead of putting it on himself?
Gendo introduces him in one scene
Wait Re-Take has Rei kill herself? I'm not even a Reifag but that's so desperate and forced it's hilarious.
The only thing he was tricked about, was about Cassius and Longinus NOT being there in Central Dogma in 3.33.
It had been sealed tight for 14 or so years, no one but Unit 13 could go down there. To his knowledge, there was no way for Cassius to disappear but it did. And SEELE/Gendo knew this... probably because of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Who the fuck knows.
I fucking knew this would be posted.
anno is a fucking asshole
do it if you can pls
Because the choker was never capable of exploding and never left Shinji's neck to begin with
It was supposed to be a form of psychological control, Misato would never actually blow up Shinji
The twist in Final is Shinji changed the spears.
He's a major point in Episode 24. Misato goes over his case file, hiring Hyuga to try to find dirt on SEELE's kid. There's the famous scene of her spying on Kaworu from afar when he's talking to SEELE and he sees her.
He also has a little chat with Rei and explains that he's just like she is.
Shit, NGE most definitely doesn't work for that theory.
>"I'm getting my dick sucked tonight!"
> why kaworu can remove the dds choker?
Angel magic. (Remember how he could unlock doors with his eyes in ep24?)
>why he cant just throw it away
Cause SYMBOLISM for taking Shinji's sins upon himself.
She also pour red paint in her hair to try to be more like Asuka for Shinji. It's that pathetic.
then why'd kaworu get demapped you buttnugget?
B-But I am a fangirl, anon. I think Kaworu turning out to be Shinji's imaginary ghost pal is the best thing ever
You CAN if you can just wait for VR.
Somebody will probably make one with an Eva setting so you can "hang out" with Shinji and Kaworu every day :^)
>Because the choker was never capable of exploding and never left Shinji's neck to begin with
Yeah, It's right after shinji gets to nerv, in the room with the big Unit 13 'egg'
That was the one part of RE-TAKE I really didn't like but the rest is great so who cares
Unless you're a Reifag in which case you have 2.0 so I dunno why you're crying
How is this certain? I might have missed something.
So Rei the least likely character in the entire franchise to kill herself kills herself so they can ship Shinji and Asuka without anything else in the way.
The Kaworu that Shinji interacts with in 3.0 isn't real
The real one is somewhere else
Oh come on, that part was awesome
Gendo mentions that Shinji will be piloting Unit 13 with Kaworu.
then why does gendo introduce him and why would shinjis imaginary friend die in such a gruesome way
you made my eyes get glassy
i forgot about that
And people said Re-Take was good.
>then why does gendo introduce him
He doesn't, Shinji is insane
>why would shinjis imaginary friend die in such a gruesome way
Because Shinji is insane, is this really so hard to follow
Dammit, you're right.
What about Rebuilds though? I don't recall him interacting with anyone besides Shinji.
For me, it's more like the other girls are shit and rei is less shit.
>The Kaworu that Shinji interacts with in 3.0 isn't real
>The real one is somewhere else
Whatever you drink/smoke I really want that son
Or I missing something from previous thread? Any copypasta to it?
meant to reply to >>100879087
Fuck off with your fucking emoticons.
you can't just write off everything as "lol insane". If we were seeing shinji's minds eye he would still follow internal logic, and killing your coping mechanisim makes no sense.
It is, if you don't give a shit about Rei
Y'all fucking new or have bad memories Moon Shinji theory is old as fuck.
See >>100879189 >>100879290
Anon pls :^)
So Shinji was a sociopath all along.
>the rest is great
There's no possible way to recover from something that fucking stupid, especially not with fanfiction tier romance.
I came up with it just now
>killing your coping mechanisim makes no sense.
He seems completely incapable of coping with anything by the end of the film
Would make sense if his coping mechanism is dead
Wait, so did Kaworu even appear in RE-TAKE?
hes depressed but i doubt insane thats way to easy of a plot device.
"why did x do y"
"oh that explains it all!"
Remember when people liked RE-TAKE?
Christ that's pathetic if you think any part of Re-Take is worth reading. Next you'll be saying ANIMA is worth checking out.
They have different hairstyles. The Kaworu in 1.0 and 2.0 gave off malicious and ominous vibes, as opposed to the cheery and friendly 3.0 Kaworu.
>That line of coffins on the moon
Oh, it's fucking happening.
what you're saying is so stuipid I can't be bothered to formulate a reply
Is Angelic Days any good?
He does, and Shinji EATS him
Then he turns out to not be an Angel after all
Yes and Shinji kills him off really quickly because it can't handle Shinji having feelings for anyone by Asuka.
yeah remember, shinji fucking ate him in unit 01 to try and get an s2 organ
it was hilarious
But ANIMA is worth checking out.
Why don't you just get comfy?
not really, just pandering
This is more evidence for Anno scrapping his original plans for 3.0 than anything DEEP going on, anon
Show me, is this one?
I don't know I've never read it. I thought it was just a mediocre Shinji and Asuka get married and have kids bullshit fapfic but now I've learned it has Rei painting her hair and then hanging herself. Who even writes this stuff?
He mentioned that it was his fault; he was the trigger. Maybe he was referring to Adam as a whole, rather than Kowaru specifically, but it's the only time in 3.0 someone blames somebody other than shinji.
fandoms love melodrama
Reifags are really easy to detect because they hate RE-TAKE for dumb reasons
Here I am, thought you were serious
Did he ever say he scrapped any planes? I just saw the preview at the end of 2.0 as a troll
But that's redundant.
I actually feel bad for LASfags.
They have to kill off every other character and completely change Asuka and Shinji's personalities for the pairing to have a chance of working out.
Why not just ship a pairing from another Anime then go through all this trouble of changing everything?
Where that ARKfaggot? He should know best. Moon Shinji = Kaworu on the moon = Original Shinji
Not this fucking theory again.
Isn't it possible Kaworu just cut his hair. And why would it matter if Kaworu from 1.0 and 2.0 were ominous while 3.0 Kaworu was cheery? Why would he act any other way around Shinji?
> I thought it was just a mediocre Shinji and Asuka get married and have kids bullshit fapfic
It's a hell of a lot more than that, go read it you fucker
The people in this thread are reducing it down to what it does with Rei but it's actually a pretty interesting take on the series
You mean a RE-TAKE? Am I funny please laugh
Anyway, if you're that desperate to read it, here it is:
>Implying Kaworu knows how to cut his hair
He's a fucking angel space god, he doesn't even know how to comb it that's why it always looked so messy.
The problem is, a romance could work without huge changes, or at least changes natural to their existing personalities. But no, Re-take bumfucks all characterization for the sake of pleasing the most deluded of Asukafaggots.
Like this shitstain. >>100879787
You know, RE-TAKE used to be a pretty beloved story, but I guess it got too popular for /a/
I remember when everyone loved Onani Master Kurosawa too
because LASfags are stupid 14-year-olds most of the time.
Okay you lost me, and it seems he's not around
I just dug my copypasta folder and no one related to it
No it wasn't. Only idiots ever thought it was anything worthwhile. Just because those idiots were, and still are, extremely vocal doesn't mean it's ever "beloved."
I'm not reading it because I can already tell it's shit. If I wanted a full retard Eva wankfest I'd write my own where Mari is the MC.
>being a Reifag
>"Onani" means masturbation. And that's what this guy is good at. Every day after school, he sneaks into the mostly unused girls bathroom on the 3rd floor, and masturbates. Until one day when he's caught...This is a story of mistakes, redemption, and the choices made in between. It contains the very worst and best of the human condition.
wtf is this shit?
The theory still wouldn't explain everything else. The biggest problem is why there would be two different Kaworu's in the first place.
>used to be a pretty beloved story
The opinions of evageeks do not count.
Ark's busy getting /fit/
>Only idiots ever thought it was anything worthwhile.
Nice delusion, dude
>I'm not reading a thing because I don't need to experience that thing to have an informed opinion about it
Anno would go:
>In to the trash it goes
And make Rei a figment of everyone's imagination. The one with a personality. Rei Q is a real girl.
The Kaworu of the previous Anime universe, and the original Kaworu of this current universe.
those chins.. I really can never unsee them now can I?
I want my blissful ignorance back
It use to show up in the sequel theory threads but most people forgot about it.
My God, you really are delusional.
To be expected of children.
Ew. i'm a Shinjifag.
>enjoying the first act of EVA
>hating the third
Did you watch Evangelion as a battle shonen?
>a coming of age super robot story about a anxious kid who grows a pair, gives the finger to his father, defeat the aliens, stop the 3rd impact, and gets with one of the two girls or Kaworu or Misato at the end
Sounds like a self-insert story for horny 14-year old boys.
It's one of the best doujinshi ever translated. No joke.
It got really popular in places and suddenly /a/ started claiming that they always hated it.
Seele talks to him in the Moon. Gendo and Fuyutsuki see him in the moon and go Who the fuck is that? WHY IS HE IN THE MOON? Gendo and Fuyutsuki talk about him after he dies.
the most you can really say about re-take is that it has some interesting ideas, for a fan work
and that's pretty backhanded praise
I'm not reading hundreds of pages of drivel. You can call my opinion of Re-Take uninformed and that's fine because I honestly couldn't care less about being an authority on garbage fanfiction.
>Pregnancy? They're fucking 14
Hahahahahaha oh my god what the fuck /a/
What the fuck
>not being an everyonefag
Why is everyone in Eva so likable?
Seriously, I don't hate a single person in NGE, not even Gendo or Kaworu, even if the latter is such a faggot.
This. I used to see Re-take spammed in every eva thread before rebuild was announced
There are not 2 different Kaworu's.
EVERYONE had some kind of redesign in 3.33, aside from Shinji. Asuka eyepatch, Mari new glasses, Kaworu new hair, Misato new everything.
It's not a big deal. People are reading too far into it.
>It's one of the best doujinshi ever translated
The artstyle looks like it was drawn by a five year-old.
Everyone knows the only objectively good Eva doujinshi for non-fap purposes are by Sadamoto/Cassino
What will the last spoken words in 4.4444 be?
what's the opposite of kimochi warui?
I was talking about OMK, but yeah, it's the same thing with Re-take.
A vocal minority of people here will hate anything that gets popular while loudly claiming that it was never good and that only retards ever liked it. The insanely popular Steins;Gate, for example, got this treatment not a day after it finished airing.
No idea what brings this up. But women were considered slave and child tier. Not worthy of being loved by the Greeks. Specially in Athens.
Loving men was the only norm, the "purest form of love" even used by Plato as such. You only had a wife as an object, without rights, to breed and have a son. That was her use. Love didn't exist because they were a bit like a pet.
I'm glad the joke wasn't lost on you. It wasn't right?
It's not cause "re-take got too popular" it's that people finally see it for the garbage it is and started to actually have standards.
Yeah, at least Re-take stuck with the original cast rather than making up a random new character out of thin air whose only purpose is to serve as a Maaya Sakamoto vehicle
Sadamoto wanted to give him a different haircut. It's the same guy.
In the end everyone dies except the true OTP then Mari eats Asuka out. Asuka moans... ~Kimochiii~
>The artstyle looks like it was drawn by a five year-old
I always wondered why Shinji was drawn so fat, god he looked disgusting in Re-Take, maybe so the guys could identify with him better?
More like Re-take made up their own characters and just stole the appearances of the Eva characters.
I really don't think that the guys hating Re-take now are the same people who spammed it half a decade ago.
The best part is when they made Asuka happy for being pregnant. Like how delusional can you get.
People who like Re-take aren't even Asukafags.
They're just losers that are so desperate for a girlfriend the have to live vicariously through 2D.
Where are their hands?
It's a careless whisper
Please show evidence for your statements.
Even if this is true, it's still a good story, unlike Rebuild which -also- changes the personalities of the characters while being completely incoherent
What will we do after Rebuild ends?
I doubt 4.0 will have as big as an impact as EoE did to keep everyone talking about it for a decade.
I'm sure they'll be nothing Eva-related besides merchandise for a while after that.
>What is 3.0
Where do you think?
Why is this bad?
Someone please shop their faces.
That's lewd Anon. They're just holding hands under the water.
I'm done. This level of stupid can't be penetrated by any Earthly means.
There will be a new series.
She said she didn't want kids in the TV series.
Let's just hope 4.0 comes out soon...
>What will we do after Rebuild ends?
>calling me lewd and telling about the maximum lewd.
Right, but the events that led to her being pregnant might have, I don't know, led to her changing her mind?
At least 3.0 has the decency to change the character designs.
Re-take just steals characters and attempts to redraw them.
I'm not even mad, but holy shit take some art lessons before you make a doujinshi.
I'm guessing you haven't watched episode 22 of NGE.
Or it's just piss-poor writing.
If nothing else it's better than Rebuild
Yeah no. There's no way TV series Asuka would ever want to have children.
>tfw they actually had a bonding experience at the onsen
That's the lewdest thing you could ever pull.
At least spoiler that. This is a christian image board after all.
The art improves quite a lot though
>Not knowing how the mind of a girl works
>Not understanding Asuka's character in the slightest
Sasuga Re-take fags.
>This is what LASfags whisper to themselves before going to sleep ever night.
She's a troubled unstable teenbrat not your perfect child bride. She'll have an abortion immediately.
No. No it's not. Stop trying to move your goalposts.
Everyone here knows Goro made a live action Re-Take, right?
No, you're delusional and I think Rebuild is bad. But at least Rebuild looks pretty. Unlike Re-Take which is all around SHIT.
i..w-we havent gotten to that point yet lets j-just focus on right now...
We didn't need another thread....
If I am my own waifu, does that mean Goro might fuck me?
We're only on page 4.
See, this just proves my point.
Re-Take isn't bad at all, but because it used to be really popular it gets shit on like mad since /a/ has to defend its territory from the terrible hordes of newfags originating from Gaia/MySpace/Facebook/Reddit/MAL/ANN/etc
Tiffany Grant pls
>Re-Take isn't bad at all
I though /a/ 'hates' it because evageeks supposedly like it. I haven't read it myself.
/a/ hates it because people who aren't on /a/ like it, basically.
The cycle of anything popular goes like this:
>/a/ likes a thing
>it gets popular on other sites due to /a/ talking about it so much
>/a/ notices that the unwashed masses like the thing that they like
>oh shit we better start hating it otherwise people might think we have shit taste
>the thing is suddenly complete shit and anyone who likes it must be a retard
Why did Goro do this?
Was hiring a cute albino shota really too hard?
Asuka an extremely stubborn mentally ill teenage girl changing her mind? Nigga give me two of whatever you're taking, you're now fanwanking fanfiction.
>true one true pairing