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>SEEEEEEMPAAAAI!
Why is Suzuka the best Raven?
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>>100852056
One word. Drilltits.
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Because Daalingu~!
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>>100852056
>not posting the superior gif
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>>100852132
>Drilltits
>tits
Those tiny things?
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I like Suzuka a lot but all the Ravens are nice. I wonder how much focus she'll get in the LNs with the recent turn of events though.
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I'd rather a Holstein.
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>>100852583
>>100852132
There's something about serious looking, blonde haired, small chested girls that just makes my dick so fucking hard

Must be the Mafuyu effect
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>>100852056
>why is Suzuka such a bitch?
FTFY
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>>100852896
I have never read such a shit post before.
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>>100852615
>sample-
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She's a slut.
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>>100852993
You must be new then. And he's saying the truth.
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I would like her more if it weren't for those atrocious Nails. God damn those things are freaky. way2long4me
I'm also not big on nail polish, but whatever
Souma and Kon best girls
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I want her to violate Natsumoe with a strap-on in front of Bakatora.
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>>100853042
Moot wouldn't let me upload the full pic.
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>>100852615
I don't get Kyouko's purpose in the story.

During her introduction she looked like she was getting set up as a major rival/love interest to Harutora/Natsume. There was that whole flashback too that implied the one she made a promise to was Harutora.

Then she just sort of... became totally irrelevant.

What's up with that?
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>>100852056
>Why is Suzuka the best Raven?
Because everybody else is a fucking overly reserved pussy with Anime Protagonist Issues
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>>100852300
Delicious nopan.
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>>100852056
Natsume is the best Raven.
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>>100854320
But Natsume is a boy, you know?
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>>100854388
I never said best girl, and neither did OP.
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>>100853991
Bad writing I assume.
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>>100855626
Bad adaption, more like.
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>>100856713
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>>100852056
but Suzu is best girl

also I like the new OP and ED, better than the 1st
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>>100857206
>I like the new OP and ED, better than the 1st
Get out.
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>>100858894
make me
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>>100852056
I can give you many reasons, but that would require a wall of text.
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>Drill twintails
>Blonde and blue eyes
>Darling~
>Sempai~
>Tiger?
>Adorabe
>Kinda sheltered
>Petite DFC
>Dat voice
>Dem reaction faces
>Skilled enough to be a Divine General
>Started off unfriendly, but became affectionate, which makes it hot
>Is innocent and pure underneath a strong and mischievous exterior
>Owns a gigantic teddy bear in her room
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>>100861949
Give me two please-
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Tora?
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>>100857195
Suzu's suzus look kinda big there..
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>>100861949
Still a slut.
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>>100862425
Indeed, but is expected. S2 wont be possible unless the author can write fast enough to turn out like 8 volumes under 2 years.

The anime is already covering all of Part 1. Part 2 begins in volume 10.
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>>100862660

Nigga, what are you smoking?
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>>100862763
Ignore him. He's been trolling like that for weeks. He thinks a girl kissing a guy for good reasons (unrelated to lust and perverted intentions) makes a girl a slut.
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>>100862425
Don't worry anon, S2 will happens just give it a couple years.
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>>100862861
but she wants Harutora's tiger (just like natsume
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>>100862861
But she enjoyed it. Slut.
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>>100863152
Who doesn't?
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>>100863558
Oni bro guy is better
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>>100852056
what japanese cartoon is the pic from?
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>>100864378
Tokyo Sluts.
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>>100861949
And she is his fasto kissu
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>>100864429
Slut.
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>>100864378
Kyoto Eagles
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>buttcheek
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>>100852056
is there a loop of this scene somewhere in youtube?
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>>100864378
Osaka Crows.
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>>100864429
>tfw all of that tounge just swirling inside Harutoras mouth
>hfw he can't help but enjoy it while Natsume watches
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Hiroshima Bombs
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>>100864378
Hokkaido Seagulls
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>>100864378
Boku no Pico.
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>>100865301
What are you talking about? Hokuto was the one who saw her kiss Harutora, not Natsume.

Why would Natsume be related to this? They're totally different people!
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>best Raven
>not Natsumoe
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>>100870181
>Hanakana character
>best anything
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>>100870257
>best Stratos
>best Oreimo
>best Aquarion
>best Guilty Crown
>best Kamisama Dolls
>best Neptunia
>best Angel Beats
Come again?
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>>100870405
>best Angel Beats
1/10
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>>100869269
It still boggles my mind how Harutora didn't figure this out until recently.
I guess he isn't called Bakatora for nothing.
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>>100870181
Natsume is 2nd best. Suzuka is the best.

>>100870405
Germany, Utao, and Blanc.

>>100870520
He's right about that.
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>>100870734
its called being dense and not having a 3rd party perspective of the situation
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So why is it that Harutora, who had "absolutely no talent" for being an onmyouji at the beginning of the series and only gained powers after Natsume jumpstarted them for him, somehow manages to have to be one of the more powerful fighters in their year with tons of spiritual energy to boot? Is he just piggybacking on Natsume's magic through their connection or something?
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>Shameless slut
>best anything
Highest of keks.
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Because in front of that wooden block-dense MC every girl is too good for him.
Finished reading LN vol.1, probably won't pick up the second one.
she speaks like Hokuto, she has a spirit named Hokuto, she's dressed like Hokuto, and I see nothing wrong with this...fucking retard and probably shounenshit
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>>100870520
>>100870779
But Sawashiro was the best as usual.
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>>100870984
I don't know anon. It's not like spoilers have been posted repeatedly.
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>>100870984
he is the real reincarnation of yako, he and natsume where changed families after born
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>>100871232
Wait wait what.
Explain.
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Natsumoe best girk,Suzuka 2nd

Bakatora best Raven
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>>100871062
No one cares about your samefagging.
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>>100871395
Bancho uniforms is my fetish after german/nazi uniforms
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>>100852056

She has the POWAH.
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>>100871421
Autistic Slutzukafags obviously care.
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>>100871483
likely still the weakest among the generals
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Any good doujinshi yet?
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>>100870984
There was something about someone being the reincarnation of someone else... Figure it out.
They're about as subtle about it as hitting you over the head with the Biscuit Hammer
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>>100871511
I believe she's tie with the new rookie divine general that showed up in part 2. But yeah, it's natural she's near the bottom among the divine generals. She's certainly a prodigy, but a very young one. Those with more age on them will have more experience and time to refined their skills, so they'll will be stronger/more skilled.
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I keep forgetting that guy is a chick.
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>>100871232
>>100871293
>>100871772
So why didn't he any powers at the beginning of the story then?
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>>100871873
im not a novel fag sorry, if specuhla works for you, he was sealed or just couldt not awaken it himself

also Doman reincarnating had me mad as fuck
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>>100853991
Seems like she'll become relevant soon
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>>100871873
Powers were sealed at birth.
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>>100872013
Whoever sealing him must've not done a very good job if they could be unsealed with a commonplace spell then.
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>>100871948
>also Doman reincarnating had me mad as fuck
Fuck you, Douman is awesome.
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>>100872049
is not everyone new about it so a normal seal could work
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>>100872099
that made all the fucking fight pointless (still was awesome)
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Suzuka has a really pretty face. I dunno how they did it, but it's really aesthetically pleasing.
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Thats because she is a walking corpse.
Quit literally
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>>100872170
She has a perfect design. That's how I see it.

Her cute and funny reaction faces are really the best.
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>>100872326
Her design is one of the few where I actually like the drilltails.
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>>100870734

Harutora couldn't have figured out that Hokuto was a shikigami in the same manner as Touji for the simple reason that he couldn't see spirits at the time. Furthermore, Touji spent a lot of time reading about the supernatural because of the oni incident, while Harutora knew close to nothing about the same.

Chances are also good that Harutora didn't have time to think about Hokuto because he spent all of his time catching up to the rest of his class.
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I don't know what you guys doing praising the "art" in this anime. It's like one level above stick figure men.
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>>100871232
Please tell me that isn't Kon on the right.
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>>100872454
ok, we wont tell you
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>>100852056
Why is pic related's ED best Tokyo Ravens song?
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>>100872584
that the new or the old?
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OP1 > OP2
ED1 < ED2
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>>100872584
Because its based Mami Kawada. Maon isn't bad either.
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>>100872621
OP2 > OP1
ED2 > ED1

Fight me
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>>100852056
Cause she is.
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>>100872619
The new one obviously. Hence pic related.

>>100872621
>>100872623
X-encounter is amazing
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>>100871293
So, he is going to be the haxor chosen one here? Among the incompetents at least, since he can't compare to the generals for now.?
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>>100872454
With Harutora being Yakou, who else could be Hishimaru?
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>>100872795
Once he awakens his past memories he blows all the generals out of the water too.
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>>100872892
who is the best general? after Shadow/sensei
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Which design is the best?
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>>100872963
Middle
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>>100872892
Slight exaggeration. While Yakou is stronger than them, the generals are strong enough so that even 2v1 is a bit risky.
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>>100872963
1st and 2nd line
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>>100872795

No one has a clue about Yakou's real intentions. But based on the little snips that we've seen, he's not the most idealistic person out there.
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>>100872375
He couldn't have known Hokuto was a shikigami until she died and Natsume told him, but it should've been trivial to at least heavily suspect Natsume of being Hokuto after finding out her true nature.

Touji knew Hokuto was a shikigami all along, yeah, but didn't know whose, yet he figured it out immediately, and Harutora had a thousand more clues to go off of.
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>>100872865
Is that ogreboy on the left then?
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>>100872892
Is that going to happen during this cour?
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>>100872963
anime for the guys, third row for Natsume
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>>100873016
Wat. No. The guy on the left has already appeared in the anime several times without any disguises.
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>>100873073
moe?
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This anime needs to sell more in Japan. Is 1776 copies for v1 good or not?
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>>100873002
Harutora is a moron, more news at eleven.
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>>100873088
Oh wow, I'm retarded, never mind. It just didn't register for some reason.
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>>100873100
...no
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>>100873100
That's not even break even.
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>>100873099
huh?
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>>100873145
;_;


what happened? is the LN simply not popular enough? not enough promotions?
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>>100872963
I seriously wish Natsume had more of a gender-neutral design.

I mean come on, if you're going to disguise yourself as a boy, at least TRY. Don't go around in a fucking hime cut tied up with a pretty ribbon, at least.
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How strong is loli senpai?
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>>100873200
The Manabi line is already outdated though.

Isn't 1776 good enough for 2 FRT though?
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>>100871232
So why is it when sealed, Kon wears the stereotypical garb of a traditional fox spirit shikigami but when unsealed she suddenly gets back a bitching military coat and black leggings?
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>>100852583
Is that... Hokuto?
Does this mean she comes back!?
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>>100873258
we have been over this 100s of times anon

japan = shit taste
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>>100872950
Ah well at least I can enjoy it a bit before they pull out the "release your hidden powers" card.

But then again watching the Incompetents fail at everything gets boring too.
The fight with Sensei and the High Priest was awesome tho.
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>>100873258
Because it isn't Infinite Stratos.
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>>100873371
>tho.
This isn't facebook.
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>>100873333
Because Hurratora has shitty fashion sense, but Yakou has taste.
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>>100870984
super power lottery
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>>100873358
on this time and age, why do anime companies dont release DVD with subtitles? im sure someone out there would import em
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>>100873002

Harutora's past relationship with Natsume makes it harder to see the connection because Natsume is very, very different from Hokuto. Even as a child, Natsume was a shy and somewhat socially awkward person whose pride sometimes got the better of her, while Hokuto was none of these things.

He should've had his suspicions, but I think it's reasonable to assume that he had to focus a lot on his studies until he had managed to catch up somewhat.

That said, it's my head canon that Harutora also subconsciously refused to make the connection because Natsume is already kind of scary. Even as a kid, she could be frighteningly intense about things.
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>>100873523
They are slowly starting to grasp that. I honestly don't know why they didn't start earlier.

Also murricans are cheap ass faggots and won't oay $50 for 2 episodes.
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>>100873333

Yakou and his shikigami were officers in the Japanese military. His final ritual was performed close to the end of WW2.
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>>100873561
me neither + the shipping, but I would do it for the bonus BDs tho
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So, is Hishamaru the Zessica to Natsume's Mikono?
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>>100873561
what about sell the subbed episodes online?
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>>100873000
IIRC from one of the spoilers given, he wants to go against the nature of magic/sorcery. At least from my perspective, he wants to change that 'sorcery's essence is lies' thing. Seeing as that point is stressed out at every given chance most particularly seen in the relationship between Harutora and Natsume, if it goes down that way, I'll give praise to this series more than how much I intended.
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>>100873612
Yeah but does she automatically default to wearing that or did she have to go digging around to find her old military uniform?

Fuck it, magical clothing makes no sense anyways.
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>>100873681
>What is crunchyroll?

>>100873633
I would pay for several series I've watched (especially after I get done with school) if they just fucking sent them subbed.
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>>100873358
I know /a/ likes to say that, but it's really stupid to make that kind of statement. If what you stated is true, then TR wouldn't get an anime nor will it explain why the LN is quite popular.
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>>100873724
>crunchyroll?
I just know about stream, do they sell em?, but that money wont go to the studio, right?
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>>100873724
>What is crunchyroll?

What about those who can't watch on Crunchyroll due to licensing issues? Such as most of the world?
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When does Touji become relevant?
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>>100852056
I want to hate-rape her so badly.
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>>100873776
You can't sell stream episodes like that. It just seems stupid. How many watches do you get? Is it just time sensitive? How much would you charge?

>>100873785
My apologies. I forget that since I don't subscribe or know how it works.

I still think they should try to at least sub shit for now. Perhaps they can even reduce the volume counts and sell for the same price if things work out in the US and other countries.

Probably not.
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>>100873763
novel community =/= anime community =/= manga community
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What was even the point of making Harutora the stereotypical "talentless but overcomes his shortcomings with guts and hard work" MC if he was going to suddenly be powered up into super-hax tier later due to reincarnation shenanigans?

At least make him a natural genius so the transition comes off as natural ("wow you learned this spell so fast it's almost like you knew it all along!) rather than "oh gee after all this effort I'm finally getting somewhere WELP NONE OF THAT MATTERS SINCE I SUDDENLY REMEMBERED WHO I WAS!"
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>>100873906
I mean, like online distribution, the same way music and games are sold online and physical
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>>100873999
he was cool trying that 100 demons expulsion thingy IMO
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>>100852056
>Tokyo Ravens
Why have I not picked this up yet? Looking at the tags I have no idea why I didn't
I guess that makes 14 anime watching this season.
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No.

And to anyone who's gonna respond with that "use your imagination" image: Fuck you.
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>>100874047
Good job selling that idea to the Japanese, they fucking despise online distribution.
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>>100874087
Because it's a mediocre adaption of a run-of-the-mill action LN?
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>>100874090
fk em, just have to sit down and show some numbers and $$$$$$
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>>100874142
Yeah, but I picked up something like Mahou Sensou and haven't dropped it yet.
I don't really care about how mediocre of an adaption it is, if it has romance I usually pick it up, and for some reason for the first like 15 weeks this wasn't on my radar.
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>>100874222
wizards barristers is better
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>>100874274
It's pretty meh. Animation is decent though.
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>>100874311
better than magical warfare
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>>100874274
>if it has romance I usually pick it up.
The only thing I see close to romance in that anime is a frog trying to fuck a girl.
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>>100874274
That shit is awful
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>>100873928
Obviously. That's why should be specific about that instead of making a statement that applies to all.
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Does anybody else feel like Tokyo Ravens is JC Staff as fuck? As in, "shitty rushed adaption of a supernatural action romance light novel with Maon Kurosaki and Mami Kawada doing OP/ED"? The only thing missing is, you know, actually being animated by JC Staff. And the heroine being voiced by Rie Kugimiya.
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>>100874600
Natsume isn't a Shana clone though.
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>>100874841
Suzuka is though.
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>>100874575
we are talking about anime sales, so it obvious is shit taste for the anime community
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>>100874600
>>100874841
Natsume could have been voiced by Satou Rina.
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>>100874483
when did I said romance?
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>>100875070
Even she is very different. Really anon, have you seen SnS at all?
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>>100875108
That would've been so much better. Jesus Christ Kana Hanazawa doesn't do stoic girls well at all.
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>>100875231
Natsume isn't stoic though.
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>>100875197
Admittedly she shares more traits with certain first-wave Shana clones (Nagi, Louise, Taiga) than Shana herself, but a clone of a Shana clone is still a Shana clone.

Shortstack pettanko violent tsunderes tend to all come off as Shana clones to me though.
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>>100875132
I was quoting what I said.>>100874222
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Reminder.
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>>100875283
Stoic might have not been the best way to describe it. Serious? Either way Hanakana sucks at deeper, serious voices, never mind reverse traps.

Hell Kugyuu can do reverse traps better than her.
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>>100875380
Suzuka isn't that short though.
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>>100875380
Are we watching the same show, bro? None of those four are mischievous brats who can pull of pranks for amusement. Suzuka is the type who teases as well. And Suzuka is not violent, not enough to be that type of tsundere. She's not loli either, but a petite pettanko. Plus, she parodies the idol image, so she acts even different in public.

Shana herself is not violent. You're getting her mixed up for Louise, who has clones too besides Shana. I can seriously go on about the difference between even the four tsunderie, but this is not the thread for it, so I'll refrain from doing that.
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>>100875762
>Shana herself is not violent
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This series would've been so much better had Hokuto stayed the main heroine.

Instead she was replaced by Natsushit.
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>>100875445
I hope loli senpai and shota grandpa don't die. Their fun to watch.
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>>100876733
she had to die for plot progression
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>>100876977
What are those things on her head? Parts of a headband?
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>>100877042
Youjo detector
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>>100876977
I still call BS on doman resurection but whatever, seen like sensei knew this would happen, and that Doman is not full power anyway
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>>100874600
Another difference is that Index, ZnT and Shana (at least the first seasons) sold well where as Tokyo Ravens is flopping.
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>>100877152
Don't blame the old man for being prepared with someone who knows Taizan Fukuen.
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>>100877597
Why are all the mysterious powerful figures in this anime all cute girls.

First loli sempai, now that red-haired girl.
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>>100873999
Because anime, read the LN.
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>>100877655
Because anime. You want to watch a bunch of old guys instead?
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>>100877655
Because you're ignoring the real powerful guys.
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>>100877655
There was Doman who upgraded from old man to shota.
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>>100852056
>>100852300
http://gifsound.com/?gif=i.4cdn.org/a/src/1390597603115.gif&v=xlB6A-BfS9M
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>>100875947
Going crazy over her onii-chan and doing what it takes to revive him doesn't count.
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>>100852056
Why isn't she wearing any panties?
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>>100879949
thong
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>>100880534
Lewd.
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>>100872678
ED2 > ED1 for fucking sure, there's not reason this shouldn't be the case.
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>>100873260

You forget she's japanese and handsome men to them are basically androgynous homos.
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>>100875380
except neither nagi no taiga are shana clones
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>>100880937
Do you even emu yuugure?
Nanjo's voice is pretty unique even among anison singer.
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>>100881609
Nah I fucked up, I was meant to write ED1 > ED2. Didn't realise until you rpelied.
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Wow they really changed the fight in beginning of ep 15;
>>Excluding the gohou summon from both sides, Harutora charged straight in because he knew the opponent will hold back against human. Then he summoned 2 crow shikigami, 1 got destroyed immediately and another one got around to Etou (the guy's name). Etou repelled the crow with a charm while using his Nio (emperor in lygo's TL) to attack Harutora but he defended it with his massive spiritual power. Then he used Kon to interrupt with foxfire from behind and released the wood charm hidden in the crow (the destroyed crow had water for mutual generation). Already saw through his trap Etou had Nio deal with Kon and countered the wood charm with metal, Harutora prevented his counter with fire. Then Etou wiped out everything with a barrier he purposedly let out of control and expanded outward. After the attacks on caster failed Harutora used water to amplify wood element charm to seal Nio's movement, just when it did Etou casted the Acala's binding spell on Harutora and won the fight. After that Natsume fought Etou to a draw without Hokuto, Touji had 2 wins against other exorcists, Tenma and Kyouko lost.

from animesuki LN thread

They basically removed all the tactics Harutora had shown
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>>100883601
This really is an awful adaptation, it's almost as if the genres actually became inverted. I'm reading the translated LN's right now and I'm halfway through volume 2, the difference is insane. This is why anime is my least favorite media for adaptations, it doesn't have enough time to do the series justice so you get clips, pieces, and lies and everyone think the entire series is shit.
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>>100883601
>Tenma and Kyouko lost
Will they ever be useful?
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>>100884131
Yes, Kyouko especially so in vol 2, but most of their sceentime has been cut.
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>>100883601
He looked like a total dumbass in anime.

>>100884109
>the difference is insane
If you call that insane, wait until you get to vol 6.
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>>100884109
That's what happens when you compressed an entire novel into 2 episodes
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>>100883601
Wait, so that, "I wanna be like sensei :D" thing was totally anime original?
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>>100884342
Not exactly. These are type of tactics he study just from watching the Ohtomo vs D.

The basically got him serious about learning magic.
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>>100884557
>about learning magic
About how to use magic.
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>All the small breast/DFC in this show
I feel thankful to the author or artist, whomever it was that decided on their chest sizes.

>>100884109
I'm guessing that they're just rushing to get to Yakoutora. Especially now that you can see his silhouette in ED2.
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>>100884680
Why does she make that hand gesture anyways?
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>>100884680
I think the author is a lolicon. The author is Suzu.

All the dfc/small breasts in the show is actually pretty realistic.
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>>100884831
Because.
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>>100870984
What episode was this said?
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>>100885160
That guy just being silly and hasn't been paying attention.

The only reason Harutora consider to have no talent was because he didn't have spirit sight that allowed a shaman to see auras and manipulate spiritual power. There big plot reasons for it.
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>>100885630
Is it possible to have high amounts of spirit energy and not be able to see spirits in normal circumstances? As in, no sealing nonsense involved.
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>>100852056
The show literally went from meh to pretty good when she came back.

She's saving the series.

Main girl is one of the worst kana hana roles ever.
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>>100885704
No, but because the seal general suppresses the amounts of spiritual power Harutora can draw, keeping him from using high level spells. His spirit sight which is connected to it get effected too. Harutora still leaks out huge amounts of spirit energy unconsciously sometimes though.

Quite few people in the series have noted he is because of it.
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>>100885855
Natsume is more than fine. And Kana is doing a good job, actually. Not one of her best, but good still.
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>>100886153
>Harutora still leaks out huge amounts of spirit energy unconsciously sometimes though
Nope, only after he broke part of the seal.
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>>100883601
Imagine did this because of time constraints. they only have 3 episodes to adapted a volume. The anime got cross across that Harutora getting more skilled, by having him being about to use Ohtomo's high level spell to extent.

The anime doing decently fro how many they have to cover which amount of epiosdes.
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>>100886341
Ah, okay thanks for the correction
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>>100884109
What are some of the major differences if you don't mind? I'd read the LN but I don't have the time right now so I'll do so at a later date. Though from your post it sounds pretty serious so I'm curious.
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>>100886345
>The anime got cross across that Harutora getting more skilled, by having him being about to use Ohtomo's high level spell to extent.
All I get from anime was how much of an idiot he was trying to use an anti spiritual disaster spell just because he wanted to copy Ohtomo and failed spectacularly.
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>>100886737
This. The only impression I got was an untalented loser trying to imitate the big dogs, and having it blow up in his face.

Not a single aspect of the anime makes Harutora appear as if he's genuinely getting better at magic, outside of plot related reasons where he is suddenly good enough at it.
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>>100886737
Pretty much this.

He actually sounds like he's becoming more competent in this.
>>100883601
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>>100886737
>>100887164
>>100887249

Yeah, I don't disagree, but I'm just hoping that maybe anime had just rearrange things and show that level of fighting in ep 17
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I only watched the anime and I did get the impression that he got better at magic, considering that he couldn't do much at all with it not too long ago. It also showed he's not at Ohtomos level yet, which was fine.
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>>100887806
There's nothing to rearrange, what's cut was cut. You can only hope they don't remove too much content from ep 17.

>>100888142
He could do things before though, it's just not in anime. And the point of the cut scene was about how he used what he knows, not he finally can cast spells.
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>>100888142
The problems arise when you consider how he got better at magic. The anime simply has him casting magic willy nilly, when we're explicitly told he sucks at it, and seemingly never "learns" (outside of a few classroom scenes where he's usually sleeping/not paying attention) how to utilize it correctly.

Then, suddenly, during plot moments, he's casually casting shit and smacking bitches with his rod. It's jarring, and completely unexpected.
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>>100888576
>The problems arise when you consider how he got better at magic. The anime simply has him casting magic willy nilly, when we're explicitly told he sucks at it, and seemingly never "learns" (outside of a few classroom scenes where he's usually sleeping/not paying attention) how to utilize it correctly.
>Then, suddenly, during plot moments, he's casually casting shit and smacking bitches with his rod. It's jarring, and completely unexpected.
Not really? The anime seems to be running with the narrative "he sucks at conceptual shit but is pretty good at practical shit especially if it doesn't involve much thinking" and then you get him mostly just brute-forcing everything by, as you said, smacking shit with his staff and maybe OCCASIONALLY casting the basic spell. It's consistent but he comes off as a moron because of it.
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>>100888576
from my understanding, smacking shit with his staff isn't like casting spells but just requires spiritual energy, and it was said that he must have a lot of it.
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So from what I can tell, the Tsuchimikado family wants to keep Harutora from learning the truth about his real self as much as possible, and thus sealed his powers, pretended he was from the branch family, and sent him off to live in the countryside.

And yet his adoptive father seems to be nudging him onto a path where he'll inevitably find out the truth. And for some reason nobody from the main family had a problem with him enrolling in onmyoji school even though they tried to keep him away from it in the first place?
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>>100888685
>It's consistent
I'd like to see you say that again after ep 17, assuming they don't butcher it.
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>>100888576
>>100888685
The point of sparring matching was to show he's taking magic much more seriously. LN showed it off much better, but the anime's version isn't really that bad. At the very least we can see he's making some progress (especially since he's only been at for a year). You taking him using Ohtomo's spell in the anime as him being over excited, but having potential. Does it not means he can't do what did in LN either.

As far as the staff is concerned considering we have seen other guys like Zenjirou using weapons as well as spells I don't think it's an issue that he has it.
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So, if Natsume is so desperate to get Harutora to like her, why doesn't she just... act like Hokuto?

In private if she's really that concerned about her public image.
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>>100888959
Because Natsume made him his Shikigami. It's an ironclad tradition that's existed forever in Tsuchimkado Clan and nobody save contracters can go against it.

None of the heads were expected that Natsume was going to do that, so they just accepted the inevitable and gave Harutiora the tools he needed (like Kon).
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>>100889378
>None of the heads were expected that Natsume was going to do that, so they just accepted the inevitable and gave Harutiora the tools he needed (like Kon).
Wasn't it his adoptive father that gave him Kon? As in, Yakou's most loyal sealed and amnesiac shikigami? Because it's coming off to me like his adoptive father WANTS him to find out he's Yakou and the main family isn't even putting up a token resistance against it.

If they've accepted the inevitable why don't they just hand the fucking coat over to him already?
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So from which volume should I read the LN?
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>>100889349
That's not the issue. Even if she herself started acting like Hokuto there no way he fall for her with like that.

She would have to truly come clean and work past her shyness to do so. It's that hard for some who been so introverted for years like her.
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>>100889452
That's what I'm talking about and they didn't have the coat then.
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>>100889511
Seeing how she's much more relaxed and open when interfacing through Hokuto, she could've magic'd up another Hokuto and come clean that way, right?
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>>100889452
They are one of the guys scheming behind the scene, we don't know a lot about them.
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>>100889616
If she had done that Harutora probably wouldn't have believed her and told her to stop joking around because being Natsumoe is suffering.
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>>100852056
All the ravens are actually quite great. Kon is obviously the best by a mile, but since she's not in contention, Suzuka pulls just slightly ahead of Natsume. Suzuka would be a lot better if she showed a little less tsun and a little more dere.
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Whoa whoa whoa whoa

People are watching this? I dropped it on the first episodes for shit art style, weak characters, and cliches and genericism out the ass. Did it get better?
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>>100889890
No.
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>>100889890
The best girl died, so no, it didn't get better.
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>>100889890
It gets worse.
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>>100889890
the music, particularly the ED, did
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>>100889890
It gets better after episode 4 (or which ever the fuck episode Kon showed up it). I actually don't enjoy the show much when it comes to the story, but their regular school activities and lives are pretty fun.

Plus Kon.
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>>100889890
It got worse.
They got rid of >HABATAKU RAVENS.
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>>100889995
Speaking of Kon, is she supposed to be alive or a spirit?
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>>100871316
Harutora = Yakou come on anon it was pretty obvious
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>>100890025
spirits can't be alive?
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>>100871427
Are you me? For fuck's sake we're identical.
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>>100890053
Uhh, no?
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>>100852583
All those flat to below average sized chests.
Ahhhn~
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>>100890076
So can the novelfags tell us how Hishamaru feels about Harutora x Natsume?
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>>100889890
First few episodes were actually decent, then it plummets with each passing episode until drills arrives, then plummets back down again.

Isn't it sad, Harutora?
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>>100872049
The only thing that blood star that natsume drew on harutora was let him see spirits or some shit like that, he breaks the seal himself later on and wears the coat.natsume dies
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>>100889941
So can anybody explain to me why Hokuto's character design is a short-haired tomboy while Natsume is an ideal Japanese beauty when the whole point of Hokuto was to be an outlet and ideal for who Natsume wanted to be but couldn't due to being forced to conform to her role as next Tsuchimikado head and forced to dress as a man?

>I don't like pretending to be a man
>so I'll create an alternate persona that's even MORE of a tomboy than me

How the fuck does that make sense?
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>>100890346
The star Natsume drew on him had included other spell her father taught which opened a hole in his seal.

>>100890392
She used Hokuto to practice guy mannerism.
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>>100889890
Yes, even more so now. At least I find it better than all other shows who's only plot element is how many girls fall into MC's lap.

And I like the characters.
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>>100890392
Hokuto was free-spirited, unbound by tradition. That's Natsume's bigger ideal. Besides, Hokuto isn't much of a tomboy. Her look wearing a skirt, much more so the yukata, is feminine enough.
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>>100890197
Probably not too pleased since Hishamaru is in love with Yakou to the point her love remains even when her memories is sealed. Look at how Kon reacted to when Harutora and Natsume were at a hotel room together.
Here's a part of the translated Hishamaru flashback.
"You've become pretty"

She thought her heart had really exploded from his sudden words.

However his remark was true. There was an obvious difference from how people around looked at her, especially males. People who looked down and bullied her from childhood had changed their attitude, looking at her with flattery eyes. It didn't make her happy, instead it was the opposite. She despised and hated the guys attracted by her look.

But he was different. Only his change would made her feel scared, restless but above all, there were sweet and pleasant feeling. His embarassment and confusion --- more than feeling of grateful and reverence --- had made her pleased and delighted.

"You're my shikigami, don't you forget this"

To her seemingly angry master, of course, she replied with a smile. Happiness happiness, to the point she felt uneasiness from it. Even so, she earnestly pledged.

My allegiance lies with the family head. Tsuchimikado Yakou, only for him ---.
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>>100890148
You and me.
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I wish the novels were translated, from what I've read in the thread, it sounds like it is a lot better.
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>>100890518
I wish you weren't living under the rock.
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>>100890392
She choose that look, because she like that look?

Thee no special reason needed for that other than cosmetics.
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>>100890500
>>100890481
What I'm trying to say is, what the hell was the character designer smoking when he looked at the designs for Hokuto and Natsume and thought

>I'll give the supposed crossdresser long hair
>and her alter ego short hair
>fucking_genius.jpg
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>>100890542
Actually, she chose the look because it's the type of girls Harutora likes.
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>>100890565
What's the problem?
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>>100890565
The not so outgoing feminine Natsume goes ahead and makes a tomboyish outgoing Hokuto.

That makes a load of sense. You usually want to be something you are not, specially when you are still maturing.
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>>100890625
Wouldn't it make a whole lot more sense if the story went

>oh, Harutora likes long-haired girls, but I have to pretend to be a man so I can't grow my hair out, woe is me!
>I know, I'll create a beautiful shikigami with long locks and befriend him with it! I'm a genius!

rather than

>oh, Harutora likes short-haired girls? But I have long hair, and I'm cross-dressing as a boy! Whatever shall I do? Surely I couldn't just CUT IT, could I?

I mean seriously? WHY doesn't she just cut it? Everybody wins.
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>>100890744
Because she likes her hair more?
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>>100890806
I think anon was referring to the art direction rather than Natsume's opinion.
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>>100890828
The artist likes her hair more.
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>>100883601
Hopefully it means that they're going to save the budget or better fight direction in the more important fights later on
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>>100890667
>The not so outgoing feminine Natsume goes ahead and makes a tomboyish outgoing Hokuto.
>That makes a load of sense. You usually want to be something you are not, specially when you are still maturing.

See, the "introverted and stuffy vs. outgoing and free-spirited" difference makes sense. Natsume isn't outgoing, but she wants to be, therefore Hokuto is.

What doesn't make sense is the whole "feminine vs. tomboyish" part. Natsume's true self may be feminine, perhaps, but she's forced to act masculine to keep up her (unconvincing) act of being male. If Hokuto is what Natsume wants to be, but is unable to, wouldn't it make more sense for Hokuto to be ultra-feminine in appearance compared to the Natsume who is (supposedly) keeping up appearances as a man?
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>>100891014
>She used Hokuto to practice guy mannerism.
And what's the point of Natsume trying to be more feminine?
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>>100891109
If Natsume has no problems with pretending to be a boy and acting masculine, then why does she keep her long hair? She'd just cut it and both her and Hokuto would both be tomboys.

If Natsume doesn't like acting as a boy and really wants to be feminine, then why is Hokuto a tomboy? Wouldn't it make more sense for Natsume to rebel against being forced to act masculine and make her escapist identity hyper-feminine instead?

And using Hokuto to practice guy mannerisms? She does that in her everyday life already. That's like going on weekend dates to your workplace and doing your job during that time. Even if it's the supposed explanation for why Hokuto is a tomboy it's a poor one.

The only alternative option I can offer is that Natsume doesn't like being a girly girl but doesn't like being a boy either and would rather be something in the middle, thus Hokuto, but that's a bit silly as well.

Either way, in the end, it doesn't really make sense for her to have long hair aside from the artist liking her with it.
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>>100891529
>has no problems with pretending to be a boy
You missed how she's troubled by it?
>Because she likes her hair more?

>Natsume
>rebel

>She does that in her everyday life already
Yeah right, she suddenly knows how to act like a guy after suddenly being told she needed to be a guy.

In the end I still can't see what's the problem with her hair.
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Full version of OP2 is out on nyaa if anyone wants it. ED2 when?
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>>100891784
Natsume's conflict is that she's forced to conform to a role she doesn't necessarily want to be in. Part of this involves pretending to be a man. Short hair would be very conductive towards keeping up this illusion.

Hokuto is who she wants to be. Hokuto has short hair. Natsume therefore wants short hair.

So why doesn't she just cut it? There's no problem on either fronts.
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>>100891784
>Yeah right, she suddenly knows how to act like a guy after suddenly being told she needed to be a guy.
Why would she devote time spent with Harutora to practice being a guy though? She can just do that as herself rather than as Hokuto right?
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>>100892531
>Because she likes her hair more?

>>100892635
Why not both?
Harutora broke his promise with her and went to normal school.
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>>100892635
> Why would she devote time spent with Harutora to practice being a guy though? She can just do that as herself rather than as Hokuto right?

Because Natsume is an introvert and therefore has no friends she can practice acting like a guy around?
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>>100892531
Because guys with long hair actually exist, especially in Asian countries. there is no need for her to cut it unless she wants too.

Furthermore she from prestigious noble clan who are typical known for narcissism.
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>>100892723
>Because she likes her hair more?
Then why does Hokuto have short hair?
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>>100892830
Why not? Do you use the same design for every game character you create?
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>>100892821
>Because guys with long hair actually exist, especially in Asian countries.
You have a very warped view of what Asia is like, then.
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>>100892830
Because she as stated before, she designed Hokuto based what she thinks Harutora prefer in a girl.

That does not mean wants her own her cut.
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>>100892857
No I don't. Go and google pictures and see for yourself. Also in case you didn't notice i didn't say every guy. Just that it's more common there relatively speaking.
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>>100892922
*she*
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>>100892985
>google
>none of them even go below the shoulder
Yeah you're not going to see any normal guys with long flowing hair like Natsume's.

Strictly speaking you're even less likely to run into high schoolers in Japan with bizarre hairstyles because it's more regulated there.
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>>100892985
J-pop and k-pop artists or actors and models are not representative for the common boring people
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>>100892985
If you actually went and googled "dudes with long hair" and then "asian dudes with long hair" you'd notice that the former has a lot more pictures of actual really long hair than the latter.
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>>100889890
The first three episodes are nothing special, but from episode 4 and onwards, it gets a little better, though nothing much changed. The show is recently getting good, so try it now if you were uneasy.

If you want to experience about the series better, read the LNs which were now available online.
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>>100893211

My point is that they exist, less people would even question Natsume about it especially given her status.
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>>100893816
Omyouji are long-haired hippies now?
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>>100864378

One of this:

>Osaka Crows
>Kyoto Eagles
>Kansai Hawks
>Fukushima Falcons
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>>100894241
What does long hair have to do with being an Onmyoji? They are the least type of people would care about a person's appearance.



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