Biggest bullshit you've heard in anime?
>oh we'll just send the ~3TB of data to the LC and use a black hole to compress it into 30-something bytes
>because that's how compression works
>because Japan 2010 has internet speeds high enough to easily upload 3TB of data
Lol nerd who cares
>~3TB of data
Let me guess, Whynot
No, they said 3.something TB
It was like 3.2 or 3.4 or 3.6, but I dunno how much exactly
That's what annoys you? Not the fact that there was only one trap?
Dude I'm a programmer not a homo
What a faggot.
nah TBH I'd like there to be more traps, but one trap is already good. Not all anime have traps anon, gotta be happy with what you have.
The intense pressure in a black hole forces the bits together resulting in a smaller filesize.
All the science in the show was bullshit. Stop being autistic.
The laws of physics break down at the even horizon, so whos to say thats not how compression works?
kill me now.
hurfdurf I'm so fucking retarded that I easily have no problems with fucking time travel via microwave, but uploading 3TB rustles my jimmies
Well, yes, and no: the most recent thoughts about black holes ( http://www.nature.com/news/stephen-hawking-there-are-no-black-holes-1.14583 ) say that we'd still lose coherence of the information which would make it unsuitable as a compression method as there wouldn't be a way to reconstruct the data to "uncompress" it.
This. OP is a humongous faggot.
Problem is not compressing, it's uncompressing.
Do you know how to recreate a van gogh from a single dot? Nobody can.
Because the laws of grade school math don't
compressing data with a fucking black hole does.
just send a trilliion little files at the same time
You honestly believe that Anime follows logic or real-time physics? What level of autism can trigger such a conclusion?
This is why the anime is superior to the VN in the cases of Steins;Gate and Chaos;Head. The anime doesn't try to explain most of the stuff, and that's the way it should be. The VN tries to explain anything, and if you have even a modicum of intelligence you can easily tell that it's complete bullshit and it completely ruins the experience.
I have no problems accepting bullshit like world lines or whatever, but compressing data through a wormhole then receiving it back makes no fucking sense.
Compressing data is not "lol I'll just stuff all the bits in this small space".
>because Japan 2010 has internet speeds high enough to easily upload 3TB of data
They're not actually using an internet connection, there's an ultrafast direct line to SERN they're utilizing.
Okay mate, on a sidenote, I dropped steins gate twice. It sucked so much.
The fucking hardrives today can't even store data at that speed. Even if you can transfer it online, there will be a time lag necessary for your HD to write the data. It's ridiculous.
Wouldn't "compressing" depend on the medium? A black hole is not going to run an algorithm to reorganize data, it's going to crush the medium, then you can send that medium and black hole and apparatus maintaining the black hole in smaller spaces than maybe the medium would have taken uncompressed... something like that. Hey, I should watch Stein's gate one of these days...
By the way, how do you retrieve any information from a black hole, speaking of that? Wouldn't even putting an object in seem to take an infinite time from an external point of view?
sekret sern computer time travel tecnology
It's fucking anime, that's why
Exactly, what goes in the black hole stays there or exits to some unknown point in the universe at an unknown time. No one knows, and yet a microwave can synchronize and communicate with a blackhole.
My physics teacher would shit bricks literally.
>year of luigi + 1
>not using a PCIe SSD
How. How the fuck do they suddenly have a cable to CERN?
That makes even less sense. You know Japan and Geneva are pretty far apart, right? How the fuck does a cable across the world suddenly materialize?
no it's bretty gud I'm just mad because they can't into computer science. Not being able to into physics is one thing, but that's understandable and acceptable for science-fiction things.
This. My harddrive writes what, 5mb/s? I know SSDs write faster, but I don't think it goes much faster than 100mb/s. Even if you where to have a gigabit connection (1000Mb/s, or 125MB/s (no not 1024Mb/s, that's 1024Mib you're thinking of, 1024 mebibyte), it would take 24000 seconds to transmit this amount of data, or 6 2/3 hours.
this so much. How can you even retrieve something from a black hole, when even light cannot reach the escape velocity needed to do that?
>having 3TB of SSD storage
>Team led by Shakadou fights against the family
>Shakadou ''welp looks like we've had a good fight, see you guys some day again!''
>after all that hype build up for atleast 3 episodes
is this fucking nigga serious
Being anime does not allow you to forget logic. The compression thing is not actually about physics, it's about the meaning of the very word "compression".
>How. How the fuck do they suddenly have a cable to CERN?
Pretty easy when the landlord is a SERN lackey.
>tfw I haven't finished it yet
>I still opened the spoiler
FUCK, I'M SO GAY, I SHOULD SUCK SOME DICKS
Moshi Moshi CERN!!
Yes, I wish to subscribe to your monthly 3TB/s fibre optic plan. Yea hook me up to your LHC, I want to test time travel using my microwave.
Well I could certainly use some extremely efficient black hole compression! Just imagine how much porn I could store!
>be watching this anime
>lol CERN would never do that
>do some wikipedia'ing
>Israel joined CERN december 13th last year, making it the first non-European country in CERN
>John Titor really existed
>tfw it's real
>tfw it's the Jews
>tfw /pol/ was right again
There are billions of black holes. Just one of them could store entire earth's data an infinite amount of times. That is insane. We are insignificant little shits compared to black holes.
The time travel theory is flawed, especially how you can transfer your metaphysical conscience repeatedly to a given point in time. That's not how timelines work.
but according to the multiverse theory, there's a 100% chance that there is a universe out there where timelines DO work that way.
>not using the multiverse theory to prove arbitrary statements
No, I am not talking about multi-verse. How can a person transfer his conscience with current memories to the past? That is beyond biology and science. That was the greatest asspull in my opinion.
It is in this universe, but the whole idea of time traveling in steins;gate depends on the multiverse theory (multiversa are called "world lines" here) to exist. By definition of the multiverse theory, there are infinitely many universes out there.
Therefore, there is 100% chance that there is a world out there where the rules of science, biology and physics are fundamentally different, and such a thing is possible.
Also, there's a world out there where your waifu is real and you're rich and have a 10" dick
Educate yo ass nigga
>He attacks with ice at -100 trillion celsius!
I wish I was exaggerating, that's precisely what was said.
I know about pifs already. It stores data in pi, takes a shitload of time (I believe it was 5 minutes for 500 lines of text but it's probably slower, it's somewhere in that page) and has absolutely nothing to do with black holes, the LHC or CERN.
I've even used pifs once. It's an interesting concept but unrelated to the topic and not useable
black ho's love eatin dat shit nigga
you dont understand
Temperatures below 0 Kelvin are theoretically possible when using an exotic matter whose temperature decreases as more energy is added.
No such matter is known to exist though, and H2O certainly does not fit that discription
>this so much. How can you even retrieve something from a black hole, when even light cannot reach the escape velocity needed to do that?
Read the article mentioned here:
Also, there's Hawking Radiation with the older way of thinking - so you do get something back from it.
>not a homo
Yes. Programmer. Like Dennis Ritchie.
Note the difference between "programmer", "coder" and "developer"
Programmers are the guys that do all the interesting hard stuff, coders are those guys in India and developers are the homos
It depends on what kind of multiverse theory you mean, but in most of them what you're saying does not happen.
In the more traditional multiverse theories what CAN happen will happen. Not that everything will happen.
I love this one.
I get the feeling you don't watch much anime, OP.
I don't watch much science fiction in general.
I don't give a fuck about fucking mahou shoujo 5 year olds flying through the air with 5 meter long swords shooting lasers through the earth. What I care about is things that are somewhat realistic, in a somewhat realistic setting, with some real science in it, and then just complete bullshit like this
Programmers are fags.
Coders are code monkeys.
Developers are the real geniuses.
There's a reason they call it file compression /a/non,
Most first world countries have to rely on outdated file compression factories from the 1990s, developed shortly after Al Gore invented the Internet. They rely on a simple steam-piston and lever setup to reduce file size.
Comparing that technology to the singularity compression techniques utilized by SERN is like comparing a console to a PC; one is simply better.
That anon was talking shit and in VVV the dyson sphere was around a tiny artificial 'sun' and after the reactionface.jpg posts of other faggots who weren't paying attention the thread was largely about OP being wrong.
No you switched developers and programmers around.
Developers are the people that make apps. The people that generally write smaller or simpler software.
A lot of people that identify as a developer also refer to their software as "apps".
Programmers, on the other hand, are the people that deal with algorithms, AI and generally more advanced stuff.
>OP is concerned about how the compress stuff
let me remind you, they use a fucking microwave and cellphone to travel in time
>tfw I discuss anime on /g/ and computer science on /a/
I've already adressed that issue somewhere in this thread
But singularities are the ultimate information compression, solid matter goes in, hawking radiation goes out.
So what they do is throw 3TB of data into a black hole, and, like, take that radiation and make it time travel and shove it back into someone's head or something. And the brain is like: I have brain cancer.
By the way, why didn't they just go back in time and murder the family of all people that would ever be associated with CERN? Wouldn't that be fucking easy?
Programmers are the code monkeys of developers.
Developers create the idea, programmers "program" it and coders fix the stupid shit programmers don't want to fix.
After playing Chaos;Head I'm pretty sure they are both part of a genre that should probably be called "retard science" rather than science fiction.
You have just turned a silly sci-fi romance into a silly sci-fi deranged murder flick.
I never saw Chaos;Head, but my impression was that the MC in that series is insufferable?
Also, I'm pretty sure the series are about romances with the most ephemeral pretenses towards science to frame the plot.
yeah but can you tell what solid matter went in based on the hawking radiation? If not, then it's not compression.
>clearly doesn't know how it works
Developers make up ideas, coders write it out and programmers are somewhere totally different doing totally different stuff
kek, it's not murder if it saves the world
Not the biggest but:
>Yuri knows nothing about english yet alone programming
>If I type some english it will turn into some code!
Exactly, especially in Steins;Gate it is very clear that it doesn't matter how any of it works, it's just trying to tell a story and the science parts are just plot tools. Still retarded science, though.
And yeah, Taku is pretty insufferable, I don't mind him being a hikki or being basically /a/, but he makes you really wish it was a game where you could make choices... since his are usually really bad.
>yeah but can you tell what solid matter went in based on the hawking radiation? If not, then it's not compression.
The example Stephen Hawking used was that the information transform between matter entering a black hole and hawking radiation coming out was analogous to taking a dictionary, setting it on fire, and sifting through the ashes.
So uh, chances are no, -unless-, you can travel back in time to before the dictionary was burned.
>I'm a programmer guise!!! I'm a special snowflake!!!!!
No, you're not.
And the microwave time machine bit didn't bother you at all?
Then it's pretty useless. I can make a program that takes an arbitrary value and returns a random number between 1 and 10 too, but that wouldn't be compression.
Dude you called me a homo because I was a programmer.
And the fact that I've answered this question 3 times already didn't bother you at all?
>Then it's pretty useless. I can make a program that takes an arbitrary value and returns a random number between 1 and 10 too, but that wouldn't be compression.
To be honest, I was just playing around with how stupid the idea is, hence the spoiler in the original post.
OP, they took a microwave and turned bananas into green goo with it. And you're upset that they took compression to a surprisingly literal extent?
Anon, they took a variant of that exact same question and they asked it 4 times already. And you're asking it again?
>the time machine can only go back in time
Welp, fuck science everyone.
(NB: IRL we HAVE actually done time travel forwards in time. It's possible. There's no fucking reason why a time machine could go BACKWARDS in time, which is hard as shit, but not forwards, which is easy as shit)
You know what a time travel machine that goes forward in time is? Entropy, I fucking do it every day without thinking about it.
If you're talking about a longer span of time you just need to freeze the dude, it's functionally the exact same.
this, but you can also just speed up the rate you travel forward in time relative to everything else, due to the fuckin' relativity theory made by my homie alberto einstein, bitch.
You could also slow down your time relative to everyone else and live longer, but reversing time is probably impossible
They make guns out of dirt. They are literally the gods of their world.
I think the only good news about forward time travel is that I think they've postulated that as you get closer to the speed of light the less entropy affects you? Which might be good news for interstellar travel, if we ever get to that point.
At least, for the people on board of a vessel traveling some appreciable fraction of the speed of light. As it would seem to them that it would take less time moving between two points.
So a 20 light year distance might be functionally 10 light years for the people on board.
TBH I don't exactly know how relativity works again, but general relativity is the one that says that time slows down the faster you go, right? And then special relativity is something about gravity, right? I thinkt he higher gravity is for you, the slower time goes (but it might just be the other way around)
Time dilation isn't just a postulate, sat-navs have to account for it.
Steins; Gate is the anime version of The Big Bang Theory, why are you fucking surprised
>bikes don't rust if you let them stay outside for 10 years
steins;gate - retard science
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Aluminum doesn't rust.
Aluminum oxidates like any other metal
>inb4 
Here's your citation cunt:
Bare Aluminum metal will oxidize to Al2O3 in a fairly short time. You can verify this by taking a pen knife and scraping the Aluminum oxide off of a lawn chair, seeing the bright bare metal, and coming back the next day and seeing that a hard layer of the oxide is now covering the bare metal.
Unlike iron oxide (FeO) or rust, Al2O3 is NOT soluble in water and so it does not flake off like rust does. Therefore the process of oxidizing stops as soon as the hard layer of Al2O3 is formed. Iron oxide flakes off, exposing more bare iron, continuing the rusting process, which is the oxidation of iron.
>Unlike iron oxide (FeO) or rust, Al2O3 is NOT soluble in water and so it does not flake off like rust does. Therefore the process of oxidizing stops as soon as the hard layer of Al2O3 is formed. Iron oxide flakes off, exposing more bare iron, continuing the rusting process, which is the oxidation of iron.
I'm glad we agree that Aluminum does not rust.
Well it doesn't "rust" because only iron rusts. Still, aluminum is not fucking magical adamantium mithril holy shit Captain America's shield material, it does get fucked up if you leave it to the elements for 10 years.
Time slows down for you relative to everything else the faster you go. Gravity and acceleration kind of are analogous to one another in their own way.
You get a hard external lair of Al2O3
Biggest bullshit you read on /a/ today?
Someone trying to prove himself by making a meaningless distinction between ‘developers’ and ‘programmers’, likening himself to the co-author of one of the most influential computer languages and operating systems.
It gets a harder external layer and the process doesn't penetrate, it really isn't the same level of fucked up at all, if it even counts as a level of fucked for a machine with as high tolerances as a bicycle.
fuck off, try leaving a fucking bicycle in front of your house for 10 years and see what happens you fucking cunt, I'll fucking beat you up you little shit, just you wait.
I've left a bicycle in a shed with a broken window for 10 years, just needed new inner tires when I took it out.
>try leaving a fucking bicycle in front of your house for 10 years and see what happens
Nigger steals it.
Fuck this anime makes me want to buy an IBM5100
>inb4 John Titon was the same person that made this anime and owns 90% of the remaning IBM5100s
>/pol/ was right again
We know what you are