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How can anyone take the Black Organization in Conan seriously at this point? When is the last time in the manga these guys succeeded at carrying out ANY of their plans? Just as a reminder:

-They failed to kill Shinichi and are still completely oblivious to Conan's existence.
-They fell for the FBI's Rena trap.
-They're unaware of Eisuke's existance
-They failed at capturing Sherry. Thrice.
-They couldn't piece together that Ai is Sherry despite the video evidence of her rescuing the kids in her teenage body.
-They failed to assassinate that one politician.
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Oh, and they let Jodie get away and have gotten 3 of their own guys killed over the course of the manga.
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What's their deal anyway? What is the BO's criminal field? Human Trafficking? Drug dealing?
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I don't watch Conan because I'm not a faggot.
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>>100849912

Now that you mention it, we rarely see them do anything besides assassinating people to keep their existence a secret.

I guess they sold incriminating evidence in the first episode?
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>>100849921

No one cares, faggot.
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>>100849556
>-They failed to kill Shinichi and are still completely oblivious to Conan's existence.
Who would believe that a killer drug would make someone a kid?
>-They fell for the FBI's Rena trap.
Traps were made for that. Also she had strong helpers
>-They're unaware of Eisuke's existance.
His sis worked hard for that.
>-They failed at capturing Sherry. Thrice.
She always had an hidden ace, even when she didn't knew it.
>-They couldn't piece together that Ai is Sherry despite the video evidence of her rescuing the kids in her teenage body.
Like the first. It goes against the logic.
>-They failed to assassinate that one politician.
Well shit. You can be always successful.
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>>100849912
Among many implied things, assassination and information dealing. The existence of Sherry highly implies either drug or chemical weapons manufacturing.

>>100850085
We know that there are different sections. Most of those we know are killers, some are spies and they at least have a small team of scientists.
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>>100850085
>they're so secretive that their only proof of their existence is to send people to remove proof of their existence and failing to do so without actually reveling the proof.

I swear.
I think they wanted to create an immortality drug or something. The drug that Conan took was an experimental drug that didn't work out so they just said fuck it and used it as a poison.
I think they were working on getting people to live forever in some way and turning back into a child was one of the solutions but it didn't work out since the morality rate was too high.
Or it could be a case of evil dolphins where no one found alive after the drug is taken because they turn into kids and run away, who knows.
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>>100850226

>Who would believe that a killer drug would make someone a kid?
Heiji, Ran, Yukiko/Yusaku, Vermouth, Eisuke....

>Well shit. You can be always successful.

thing is: they're NEVER succesfull. man, you just know Gosho is going to pull an Akai revival out of his ass.
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>>100850555
Well I don't remember much about Vermouth, but all others had much more interaction with Conan and Ai is much more discrete than him.

>thing is: they're NEVER succesfull. man, you just know Gosho is going to pull an Akai revival out of his ass.
You have any doubts?
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>dat art in the OP

Conan looks like shit these days.
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>>100850367
>they're so secretive that their only proof of their existence is to send people to remove proof of their existence and failing to do so without actually reveling the proof.

In a way, that's the BO dealing with fuck-ups too. Why is everyone, especially Ai, so scared and impressed by these fuck-ups?
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>>100849556
Damn, sounds they encounter Shinichi / Conan and his friends every week. They must have some kind of meeting on Saturday to play detectives.

No seriously, this is becoming ridiculous.
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Why are the Heiji episodes so boring? I can't quite place my finger on it, but I really dislike the episode where you have him teaming up with Conan.

I don't even dislike the character, and I don't mind him when he tags along as a side character, but for some reason I'm always bored and frustrated with his cases and tend to skip them.
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>>100851874
They just pale in comparison
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>They failed at capturing Sherry. Thrice.
Is Conan worth picking up again?
I dropped it somewhere around episode 330
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>>100852402

If you're in it for the story: No.

Surprisingly enough, though, the mysteries are still pretty clever for the most part. So if that's what you watch Conan for, it's still worth watching. Just be sure watch it with a filler-guide.
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What bums me out the most about this series is the soundtrack change:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf1BavMheR0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58AAug3lmWQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxmoUmTbl4U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPK2YUOYJFo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYNqeRNNcbw&list=PLqfGPdqrc75XaVgy-HdT4GAtbAyMxtfX6

The music in the first couple years of this show was so good. Now everything is this stupid RPGMAKER2000-esque midi bullshit.
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>>100852402
Im at episode 500 right now. The overall plot is still moving at a glacial pace. I say just watch the metropolis love story episodes at least, takagixsatou is always nice (dat marriage episode)

Other than that its not really worth to watch for the story and there are still too many of the japanese wordplay episodes that basically suck since you cant guess along without knowing japanese. And even the ones that arent are very formulaic, "something happened next to us, three suspects, watch conan pull shit out of his ass that we were never shown/solve the crime due to coincidental mistake made by culprit in front of conan 5 minutes before the murder". I guess once you get to that many episodes there will be a lot of turds.

I basically only watch it for takagi and sometimes Ran, because she is the perfect faithful wife waiting for her husband.
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>>100853130

>Other than that its not really worth to watch for the story and there are still too many of the japanese wordplay episodes that basically suck since you cant guess along without knowing japanese. And even the ones that arent are very formulaic, "something happened next to us, three suspects, watch conan pull shit out of his ass that we were never shown/solve the crime due to coincidental mistake made by culprit in front of conan 5 minutes before the murder".

There are episodes/chapters like that, I guess, but just as an example the most recent 3 murder case weren't like that at all.
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I read Conan for the plot.
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>>100854735
That must suck since the story moves forward an inch once every 3 years.
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Haven't read or watched this in ages. Any developments in the story in the last 5 years (I'm guessing no)?
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Holy shit i just read the last chapter, Ran just confirmed it hasn't even been a year since Shinichi disappear... Even so i love me some Shinichi Action.
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>>100855896
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I still can't believe how nobody points out Mouri doesn't flap his mouth when he "solves" a case.
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>>100849912
They're hinted at being some kind of organization seeking immortality behind the scenes and they focus heavily on stealing particularly valuable precious stones because one of them has some kind of immortality serum hidden within. You learn this if you watch Magic Kaito.
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>>100849912
I always assumed they were some type of illuminati like group. No one really knows about them, and if you do you wind up being assassinated.
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>>100858631
Aw man, seems so long ago that she appeared. Everyone on /a/ (including myself) was flipping out over what a great reverse-trap she was
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>>100850742
The manga too. I prefer the earlier art.
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>>100849556

They just want to draw more loli.
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>>100853130

even the girls would have Ran if she wasn't already taken.
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>>100852891
A thousand times this. In about ten years when they are gonna be finishing the series they should return to these soundtracks for hardcore fans who started the neverending ride 15 years ago.

Also some of the best openings, we need more like these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09lja-M_M8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shcm-einLiM
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>>100852402
>330

Hmm, I'm actually on episode 328 after over 2 months of trying to burn through on my Saturday.

At this point I'm wondering if I should just start skipping to the end of the episodes and just watch Conan's recap/solution rather than burn 20+ minutes.
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>>100852891

Add to that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szVHp9KcWpc

One of the best chill bgms ever.
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>>100864244

ran a shit. haibara strong.
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real talk, motherfuckers: conan's english voice is lightyears better than his japanese VA. he actually sounds like a kid in the dub.
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ITT: series that need to fucking end
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>>100857348

no one will be left in the city by the time it ends.
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>>100865600
I liked his adult voice too
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>>100849556
They're up against a god of a man.
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>>100851874
Heiji chapters use to be some of the best, but there's no thrill anymore. They're all to familiar with each other. It use to be fun to see Conan pair up with his equal, but now there're a dozen of his equals running around.
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>>100853130
>and there are still too many of the japanese wordplay episodes that basically suck since you cant guess along without knowing japanese
It's just Japanese laziness. You don't need to be a talented writer to do kanji play. Even battle shounen authors pull that garbage.

I miss the days when there were actual mystery fiction style murders each week.
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>>100870731

How many dopplegangers do the characters have already?

So far Shinichi has Kaitou, Heiji and the

Ran looks like the princess

Kogorou looks like the leader of the Black Organization

and Sonoko looks like a slut.
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How many dopplegangers do the characters have already?

So far Shinichi has Kaitou, Heiji and the kendo club ace that fought Heiji

Ran looks like the princess

Kogorou looks like the leader of the Black Organization

and Sonoko looks like a slut.
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>>100852891
Most of that music still plays though
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Is it time for recent spoilers for people behind?

Bourbon is Amuro
Subaru is Akai
Sera is a childhood friend of Shinichi's
Sera's tiny relative probably ate the shrinking poison too
Vermouth has officially given up on sherry
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>>100872560
>Subaru is Akai
Everybody already knew that.

That's why Gosho added another onii-chan for Sera. She had no real mystique when she was just Akai's sister.

>Sera's tiny relative probably ate the shrinking poison too
I hope not. But it's pretty obvious it's a boy and not a girl, if for no other reason than Conan thinks it's a girl.
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>>100872948
Well Sera has two older brothers, and the kid has the Masumi eyes
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>>100850555

It's well known that Akai is Suguru in disguise.



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