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What do you think will happen in the future chapters?
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>shinigami start losing battle
>zaraki/fullbringers bust in and kick some ass
>quincy secret weapon makes shinigami start to lose again
>aizen
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It's kind of silly that he's named YHWH.
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>>100808847
I agree with you
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>>100808686
>yfw Unohana's soul is inside Yhwach's belly
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>>100809245
>implication implying that she's actually dead
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>>100808971
He's not exactly; he was referred to as a god when he was born because of his gift, but chose his own name as something of an offshoot of that name when he could finally speak.

Not the same meaning, but more taking the syllabus and rearranging them a bit, although not quite.
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>>100808686
Would take Yhwach's soul to fix my chronic hiccups
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So who was Yach before he died and was reborn in Soul Society?
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>>100809704
>making shit up
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>>100809875
From the way I interpreted the chapter, I think he was born in the living human world. It makes sense if you consider that most quincy were "alive" at one point.
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>>100808686
He looks like that pirate king in OP.
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>>100810239
imb before juha bach is gold d roger
imb before epic crossover
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Bretty good chapter
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I liked it except the part where is revealed that the war is just so that Bach can live on.

I thought it was about revenge on the Shinigami.
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>>100811472
Having more than one motivation makes him a multidimensional character.
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Young Bach and Rukia look similar. They also have ties to ice. Coincidence?
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>>100808971
>>100809704
You're both right.
This is why you're not allowed to pick your nickname: you'll always pick something ridiculous and arrogant.
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>>100812993

>His name is literally Jehovabach

Gesundheit
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>>100813058
Sternritter G: The Gesundheit
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>>100812452

No, that's his only motivation.

This war isn't any different than lets say the next one because the only purpose is for him to gather the essence of others so he can live.

I bet the other Stern Ritters don't know this.
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>>100813452

You are now fucking realizing that YHWHbach is Bleach's answer to Armstrong.

>People fighting for ideals they actually believe in
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>>100809966
Turns out Manga Panda wasn't the best translation to listen to in a sense.
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>>100813452
>No, that's his only motivation.
So says Jugram Haschvald, who clearly has his own agenda.
People can do things for multiple reasons, you know. Kill two birds with one stone: he continues to live at full power AND gets revenge on those shinigami sumbitches, that soul society aint right, I tell ya hwat
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>>100808686
Ichigo will abosrb ZnT and continue Yamato Geryyusai Shigekunis will of destuction and rape culture, while making children with his noble wife Rukia.
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>>100813988
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Does that mean he has all the powers of every shinigami that a quincy has killed?
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>>100814283
>When Bach is killed, all the souls of the ones he absorbed are set free.
>All the shinigami that were killed in the war come back
>All the quincy that were killed comeback albeit powerless

Watch this happen.
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>>100813988
Shit it really is too late here.
I fucked up the name.
>Yamamoto Genryuusai Shigekuni
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So thats why when a quincy kills a hollow they dont go to SS? they go to bach?
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>>100809245
what? How?
the souls of those he embues with his power can capture the souls of others
but unohana was struck down by kenpachi
kenpachi can't infect others, cause juha didn't directly empower him
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>>100816440
Yup.
Imagine the power boost from Uryu's dick-measuring contest.
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>>100816440
>quincys and shinigami would have no reason to fight if it weren't for bach
>he orchestrated it all just to keep his senses
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>>100816707
they only killed a bunch of low level hollows. doubt it was that much
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>>100816754
quincys wouldnt exist without bach
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>>100816440
SS arc and Mayuri actually prove the opposite.
Remember that Mayuri let nearly all remaining classic Quincy die to get examples to experiment on.
This chapter is a huge fuck up on this part.
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So wait, couldn't the shinigami simply touch Bach to get stronger? I know it would be hard as fuck to get close to him but what if they simply touched him out of luck. Would they get shit load of spirit power?
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>>100808971
He's obviously Jesus.
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>>100817077
On does not simply touch YHWH
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>>100816707
Eh, those were normal Hollows, and a Shinigami captain should be worth like 10,000 of them.
Assuming that YHVH lost all his power when he 'lost his heart' for 900 years and now he's starting from scratch, he's got the power of Masaki and 12 or so Sternritter plus Yamamoto for the more significant boost. There are still some 30,000 Hollows, 2 vice captains, 3000 or so Shinigami including several seated officers and some random people he must have killed. And add Driscoll's "Overkill" ability back to YHVH and his power might have increased even further. I won't be surprised if his power is rivaling Aizen's or Ichigo's.
>>100817077
Haschwald explained that only touching him improves health and other relatively minor powers, YHVH himself must grant them greater power by giving them a letter, and the Shinigami would risk dying and making him even stronger by getting close enough to touch him.
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>>100816595
>you now realise that's why she wasn't allowed to fight
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>>100809740
>Having to touch the person to give them powers
Is this why Chad and Inoue have powers? Because they keep touching Ichigo?
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>>100816440
>>100816707
>>100816754
>>100817018

No, remember that hollows are poison to quincy, the quincy exterminate them so that they don't go to juha bach and poison him to death.
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>>100817536
Bach's power is like the opposite of Hollows. They get their power from losing their heart, he has the power to fill the missing hearts of others.
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>>100817587
Oh man.
Remember, he's got Harribel (whose hole is in her uterus) chained up.
I'll bet he filled her hole, alright.
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>>100817469
That's nonsense. The entire 4th Division was ordered to remain at their barracks to aid the injured as soon as the battle ended.
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>>100817536
That is why it is a pretty bad retcon.
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So I guess this whole "distribute his soul thing" explains why he was inside Ichigo posing as Zangetsu.
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>>100809875
Jesus

Shinigami crucified him that's why they had that giant cross to execute rukia on. it was ywachalkdjfla or whatever's
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>>100817656
I'd engrave a letter on her soul, ifyouknowwhatimean
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>>100818209
I bet I know which one
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>>100818424
Who does his majesty inscribe his D onto?

No accounting for taste.
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>>100811472
>I liked it except the part where is revealed that the war is just so that Bach can live on.
>I thought it was about revenge on the Shinigami.

It is for the survivors of the Quincy extermination war.
It's about glory for the new Quincies that don't know the details.
It's about food for Bach. And maybe a tiny amount of revenge in the sense that he may be annoyed that they beat him last time.

random thought: why didn't Yama kill him last time? I am thinking he had some idea that it would backfire. Not the kind of backfire that would only hit Yama; something worse.

>>100808686
>What do you think will happen in the future chapters?
Shinigami appear to be making a comeback, but continue taking wounds. All of this further strengthening Bach while weakening them.

If he kills the right Shinigami, they'll be too disorganized to wipe his side out, and he can keep a low grade war going indefinitely.
If he leaves the right Shinigami alive, they'll be able to keep generating powerful souls for him to eat later.
He may attempt to get others with Quincy blood on his side (Ichigo and his sisters).
Aizen, Mayuri, and Urahara are all up to something. But all those somethings are different. Urahara's chunk of that may have something to do with the dead Fullbringers.

Not sure what Bach's top level reasoning for invading Hollow Mexico was. We know the low level stuff about getting some to fight for him. Above that? Maybe interfering with aspects of Aizen's plotting that we aren't aware of yet.
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>>100808686
Holy shit, when did Gold Roger show up in Bleach?

Is Ichigo going to search for One Piece?
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>>100819002
>random thought: why didn't Yama kill him last time? I am thinking he had some idea that it would backfire. Not the kind of backfire that would only hit Yama; something worse.
He's the Soul King's son maybe?

I'm willing to bet that the two are related somehow, even if it's only resemblance.
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>Still paying attention to Bleach.

Just let it die. Kubo doesn't care, and neither should you.
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>>100819178
I am still looking forward to seeing shunsui, isshin and urahara bankai.
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>>100817882
>So I guess this whole "distribute his soul thing" explains why he was inside Ichigo posing as Zangetsu.

I figure it's how he made the original Quincies. He gave them a bit of his soul, something in between healing them and giving them a letter, using people who were strong enough to escape the death curse. It breeds true. I don't think he's in much communication or control of the distributed pieces until the bearers die and the pieces return to him.

The thing about stealing Ban Kai from people is almost certainly related to Bach's powers.

As the son of a Quincy pureblood, Ichigo's bit of Bach has been passed down and subdivided for over a thousand years, so it's not surprising that the personality of the one in Ichigo isn't identical to Bach Prime.
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>>100809875
He can't really die you know.
There are 2 conditions for him to die:
>Body dies
>Not enough souls in circulation to respawn
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>>100819063
about 11 years ago.
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>>100819621
I wonder if he's also in some way literally the father of the pure blood Quincy. Guy's lived for thousands of years, easily could have had a few wives in that time.
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>>100819002
>random thought: why didn't Yama kill him last time?
He did. Remember the prophecy?
Bach entire power has one large advantage: so long there are people that give birth to children, and said people have been "blessed", the blessing spreads.
Said blessing will eventually return him to life.
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>>100817509
huh
that's an interesting idea
that the ability to put a bit of his soul in other people is something Ichigo can do to, but without Juha's negative side effects.

And that's the canon reason he changes the life of everyone he touches.
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I have to say that fullbring arc was crap but this one is delivering so far.

I just hope they hurry up with the jobbers so we can see some good stuff start happening otherwise with the pacing it'll take Kubo 4 years to wrap this up.
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>>100820065
>but without Juha's negative side effects.
What negative side effects? The problems the humans had is that they got burned out.
He is not eating their soul, merely reclaiming what they nurished.
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>>100819149

I think at this point it is safe to assume that the Soul King has a similar power to Juha's in the sense that he feeds off his underlings in some way by first distributing power, then getting more of it back.

It is also possible the soul king created Juha so he has an opponent, thus giving his underlings someone to fight (and die fighting against), increasing his power in that way.

that way the entire system is rigged that no matter what happens the soul king increases his power or stays alive more
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>>100819922
Mayuri said to Yamamoto "you failed to kill that man 1000 years ago"
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>>100820432
Depends on what killing means.
To slay, or to prevent respawn and slay.
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It'll turn out that the Spirit King is some prehistoric form of Yhwach, and that Yhwach was the Living world's counterpart to him.
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>>100819922
bach is basically immortal as long as a shred of his soul is still alive in someone who can have kids, who in turn create a whole generation of quincy that he can eat to resurrect
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>>100820500

I think you can assume that by "kill" they meant permanently dispose of/kill. Otherwise they would say "seal".
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oh boy look likes it time to read some blea-aw fuck
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>>100820587
So he's black?
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>>100820120
>fullbring arc
>crap
This is what shonen faggots actually believe. What, was the psychological fuckery too deep for you? Go back to reading Fairy Tail
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>>100820120
I liked the Fullbring arc for the most part. The ending felt really rushed and Chad didn't get to do anything.
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>>100808686
So he has a thirst for souls, aye?

I'll handle this.
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So Ichigo said it should take him half a day to get there. Now considering when Rukia and Renji arrived it was turning night and now it's turning day. I'm guessing we should see Ichigo pretty soon right?
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>>100821196

Pretty soon in Bleach's time measurement of kubits means half a year to two years.
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Why hasn't this shit ended?
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>>100821023
Not exactly.
He is basically giving you his limbs, so when you die, he can reclaim them.
While you have his limb, you feed that limb.
So when you die, he reclaims the limb, and its now healthy.
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>>100819922
>>100820432
>>100820500
>>100820580

Bach is like a spirit parasite monster. Kind of hard to kill him completely when your weapon is a sword.

Maybe Ichigo will soulsuck him or something.
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>>100825016
ichigo will become ywach
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>>100817018
Yhwach doesn't take their entire soul he only takes back his soul that he put in them.
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Does this mean that when someone dies, Bach gets their abilities as well?

Because that would be some bullshit on top of the ridiculous amounts for power he already has just from them dying.
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>>100825182
No, it states that he gets the fragment and their soul.

It reminds me of the whole "sell your soul to the devil" thing. Bach is literally the Devil parading around as a God.
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>>100820587
Someone needs to change that to

>The infant was...
>A...
>A...
>A nigger...
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>>100825455
Yeah he gets the fragment he gave to them back, but just with a few extra stuff. He doesn't get the persons soul.
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>>100825644
Oh I misread that.
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>>100825383
I guess. Damn his ability is soo fucking broken. It's a good thing nobody dies in Bleach.
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>>100826114
bach has experienced menstrual cramps
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>>100808686
Hopefully we get Aizen or at least Grimmjow returning sometime soon.
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>>100828183
grimmjow is a shit character
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So basically Bach lends a part of his soul, and that empowers people at the cost of shortening their life span. Slap on a piece of his soul and it improves you for a bit, but it absorbs life energy to do so. So when you die, he gets back his soul with interest. His piece of soul absorbs energy and gets improved, but doesn't consume your entire soul. So he only gets back what that part of the soul managed to absorb. So it's an inefficient process and he has to do it with many people. This is how he makes his quincy hollows.
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>>100828905

tl;dr: He's a jewish demon, the nazis were the jews all along.

Sasuga kubo-sama.
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>>100828902
No he wasn't he was entertaining.
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>>100829451
Mask was far more entertaining, but now he's kill
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so currently whats the most popular theory on what YWACH is?

personally after the last chapter im startin to think he's something like the first fullbringer ever born
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>>100830081
He is actually from hell.
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>>100830081

I think he's related to the spirit king somehow. I mean come on, the ability to manipulate souls? That seems like something the spirit king would do.

Perhaps the spirit king made him to give the Shinigami an enemy, and this way he's controlling both sides, or he just made the "game" and this "game" favors him in some way.
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>>100825383
Only if the shard he gave out was large enough in the first place, and its well used.
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>>100830156
Like Kubo remembers Hell. Guy forgot to give Ichigo's friends power-ups even though he clearly planned that they would play an important role since chapter one. They didn't.
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>>100830561
didnt he write the 4th movie himself.

you know the movie centered on ichigo invading hell.
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>>100830614
pretty sure he just did the character designs for that
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>>100830614

The staff ignored kubo, kubo got mad, he said he had nothing to do with the movie, and that's why we'll never see hell in the manga again.
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>>100830614
He did at first, but the anime team lost his script and Kubo got really mad and had his named removed from the movie.
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>>100830614

Kubo removed himself from the movie after the movie staff ignored his script.
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>>100809245
Nah, Kenpachi's shikai already absorbed Unohana. It will act like a partnership in Shaman King.
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>>100830429

>the entire universe of bleach works the way it works because it's a keikaku of the spirit king
>this is why aizen hates him because it's the only keikaku larger than his
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The Quincy are the good guys and the Shinigami are the bad guys. Prove me wrong. Pro tip you can't
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>This chapter

Anyone notice the quality difference between the more story-driven things he writes and everything action-driven? I think that Kubo's talent doesn't lie within choreographing battles; he is capable of working out interesting powers and abilities, but then falls short on using them in interesting and innovative ways the great majority of the time with the greatest exception being Shunsui's shikai.
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>>100831585

>the quincy leader is a bloodthirsty asshole that wages war and endangers the cosmic balance of the entire universe just so he can live forever

Don't think so mate.
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>>100821023
No he's more like the Furtive Pygmy and the Dark Soul. Except he takes it back.
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>>100831585

Juha Bach isn't evil, he's a force of nature much like hollows are, except that while hollows are a natural part of the bleach universe, bach is artificial. He was made by something or someone.
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So where was Bach born? Europe during the Roman Empire?
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>>100808686

Wow, Bach's dialogue on Niggastream was fucking horrible.
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>>100831849

Well, he's a jew. Since everyone around him worshiped YHWH, so, wherever there were jews around 1000+ years ago.
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>>100810567
The hogyoku is the one piece.
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>>100831849
Middle East or Towards Egypt.
I seriously doubt Turkey or Greece.
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>>100831712
But I enjoy most of the fights in Bleach. I like the way Kubo draws fights (except for the obligatory "i'm behind you panel" and always cutting off arms) the problem is that there is too many fights. Like for example Mask de Masculine vs Kensei and Rose sure it was entertaining, but it was pretty much pointless and didn't need to be there.

>>100831915
>i can't help but...
>pat myself on the back
Yeah it was pretty awful, but the scan quality looked better.
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>>100813058
>His name is literally Jehovabach
No. It's Jehova, Jahwe etc, This is not how semitic languages work.
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>>100832237
>>100831923
>>100831849

Well he's white and has black hair too. Doesn't really look like an arab if you ask me.
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>>100831849
Canaan. Israel probably.
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>>100832290
There are plenty of Arabs and Jews that are white, and I mean natives, not mixed bloods.
As for black hair - that's the most common hair color outside of Europe.
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>>100831718
>the quincy leader is a bloodthirsty asshole
Except he isn't he said he doesn't like fights.

>wages war
Shinigami deserve it they slaughtered all the Quincy. Mayuri also warned Yamamoto that this might happen, but he ignored it. The Shinigami did more than enough to the Quincy to justify them going to war.

>endangers the cosmic balance of the entire universe just so he can live forever
Shit happens it's war. Also Mayuri fixed the balance by killing 28,000 people.
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>>100832524
Mayuri for Captain-commander.
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>>100832524

>Except he isn't he said he doesn't like fights.
>picture related

The nigger loves wars and battles, did you forget when he fought Ichigo? He was smiling like a bitch and even Toofsy said if he had said they were out of time he wouldn't have listened.

>Shinigami deserve it they slaughtered all the Quincy

Yeah, 800 years after the original war and only because the Quincy refused to heed the Shinigami's warnings about balance.

>Mayuri also warned Yamamoto that this might happen

I don't see how that's relevant, Yamamoto being incompetent doesn't make the entire soul society organization evil.

>Shit happens it's war.

Nigger we're talking about the fate of the entire fucking world, soul society, hueco mundo and possibly hell.
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>>100832524
Fuck, what a load of bullshit.

Quincies and their actions continuously endangered the very balance of worlds. They also, most of them at least, refused to cooperate in any way.

Shinigami did what they had to do.

Bach's vendetta is entirely personal, at least when he is in his Ruler persona (which seems to be most of the time).

>Shit happens it's war.
Well, Quincies waged war on reality. So they get annihilated. Shit happens, it's war.

As for people killed by Mayuri - they most likely reentered the cycle of souls, so minimal harm done.
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>>100831849

Well, considering the trees, my first call would be Europe.

Although it's interesting that he already lived in an Ice structure when he was a teen.
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>>100832524
>Except he isn't he said he doesn't like fights.

Before merciless dismembering and killing 2 arrancars with a smile on his face
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>>100808686
>mfw All quincy are dead.
>mfw Ichigo v/s Yhwach : Final Battle.
>mfw Yhwach loses and dies.
>mfw His soul attaches to Ichigo's soul.
>mfw Ichigo becomes Soul King.
>mfw KUBOOOOOOOOO!!
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>>100832872

Maybe it's just very very cold and he walks around naked because he's magic and shit. Maybe Russia? Are there jews in russia? He has clear eyes, black hair, and he's very white.
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>>100832971
This look like a eroge i played where the last boss died and another guy absorbed him and become the last boss and this happens twice.
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>>100833050
There were, at one point. Probably not many now.
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Seriously guys, the entire quincy army, skills, names, everything is german. He's german.
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>>100819178
>Kubo doesn't care

Since when were you under the impression that Kubo isn't the master of trolling everyone?
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Yhwach will not die he will put his entire soul into Uryuu making Uryuu the king.
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>>100832524
Inconsistent and interesting, you seem like you have a lot more to share, please do.
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>the first time we see the Soul King he is waking up.

Yhwach confirmed to be related to the Spirit King.
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>>100836026
>that was more than a year ago.
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>>100820198
YOU DONT UNDERSTAND


Bleach is all about The Heart:

-Hollows are about the Hole that's left in one's Heart.
-Shinigami put their Heart into their weapons (their actions, their way of life)
-Quincies use their god to fullfill the Hole in their Hearts

-Ichigo fills the Hole in his Heart (dead mom, which ironically (KUBO) is the one who passes him the hollow...) by helping and PROTECTING people he cares about
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>>100836151
Still waiting for H - The Heart - Sternritter.

Come on, Kubo. You know you want to.
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>>100817429
Maybe the Overkill power was based on Bach's own power?
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>>100818209
>By consuming the very essence of his Majesty, you consummated the initial in-soul writing ritual

You are now aware that this is literally the Holy Eucharist


captcha: His fansfui
SUPERSTAR!
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>>100819621
>Bankai stealing medallions have a piece of Bach's soul
>You are now aware that Bankai stealing on Ichigo failed because his own piece of Bach (NotZangetsu) refused to come back
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>>100836436
sasuga kubo
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>>100832678
>LETS CELEBRATE DEATH
OH FUCK
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>>100833050
>>100833221
ashkenazi jew?
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>>100813452
it's not a motivation if it's survival.
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SO what does all that have to do with his way of attacking?

Why use a sword to create an energy bow that fires an energy sword to attack your enemy with?
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>>100817977
but the soukoku was weak as fuck now that we know the real powerlevels.
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>>100819632
>ichigo defeats him by using his super speed or whatever to wipe out every single quincy at once, including uryu and ryuken

>bach instantly becomes a babby again and gets stabbed
>yfw nel is related to bach
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>>100825016
yamamoto's sword was perfect for killing him, as ryujin jakka absorbed the souls burned by it's flames, so yamamoto actually got a lot of the pieces of yawach soul with him.

Yamamoto was actually the only one capable of completely defeating yawach.
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>>100836742
That's probably most likely. He wouldn't be sephardic and certainly not mizrahi.
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>>100831828
aizen again?
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>>100832678
>mfw the time limit to go back was for bach to go to sleep
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>>100832277
If it's ancient Hebrew, there are no vowels. Jehova is a mistranslation btw.
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>>100808686
Basically genie for your soul
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>>100832872
Except Pines are more common in northeren Europa, too far north for Ancient Jews.
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>>100839658
It's probably Germany, since Kubo went there for inspiration for this arc

Anyways we don't know how fast Juhabach ages, so it may not be his birthplace.

Only thing we know is his folk adored YHVH so it's likely to be either jews or the tribes before jews that had YHVH as a god of war
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To be honest until they explained this was Bach I thought it was Soul King backstory. Would've made so much more sense
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>>100840201
Yeah, I thought the same too. It was a Spirit King-like thing to do after all.
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>>100840201

I get the impression that the soul king is going to have a similar story.

>Soul king lays his power across the world, all things that pass through the cycle nourish and empower him
>Bach, a mere human, has a similar power. This causes him to steal from the cycle that feeds the soul king, causing the soul king to move against him.

The soul king is going to be the final villain, it's just a matter of why and when it happens.
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>>100840552
>The soul king is going to be the final villain

It's probably going to be Aizen or at least Urahara I doubt the final villain of a series wont be introduced until the final arc.
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>>100840823
>I doubt the final villain of a series wont be introduced until the final arc.
but this is final arc
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>>100840979
How does that change the point?
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>>100830821
>mfw realizing the Soul King's eyes are blind and he's only waking up after the Gotei 13 massacre because he's the same as Yhwach
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>>100838718
>mistranslation
Mistransliteration, possibly. There are few reasonable ways of reading tetragrammaton, and Jehova is still considered one of major ones, although considerably outclassed by Yahweh.

Also, there are vowels in hebrew, arabic etc. - ancient or not, either as vocalisations or long variants. It's just that short ones are generally omitted in written language with few exceptions (like Koran, where they are compulsory to prevent any misreadings).
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>>100841380
Do you happen to be theologist in real life Lab? Your profile fits with that of an academic and you possess knowledge beyond the scope of moderate religiousness.
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>>100841838
That or wiki.
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>>100841838
No. I studied semitic languages as a secondary course out of sheer curiosity. I learned basics, but that's enough to understand some of the more accessible research papers.
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>>100841914
So what's your field then? Linguistics?
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>>100840823

The soul king was introduced at the defeat of Aizen, as something so terrible that Aizen couldn't stand the idea of living in a world under such a creatures rule.

Pair that with the fact that Aizen has been raising Ichigo as a mad science project, still has a Keikaku going on, and has been said to still have a large part in the ongoing plot.

I'm pretty sure that "losing" to Ichigo was part of his plan to drive Ichigo further, and that he intends Ichigo to kill the soul king for him. Still just a theory though.
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>>100842311
>I'm pretty sure that "losing" to Ichigo was part of his plan to drive Ichigo further, and that he intends Ichigo to kill the soul king for him. Still just a theory though.
I believe he saw Ichigo as yet another way to slingshot himself to the level of power required to conquer Royal Realm.

>>100842181
Media and communication. Enough about me though.
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>>100842311
Yeah, but still in 565 chapters all we have seen from the guy is this >>100836026 page. He doesn't seem final villain worthy in my opinion. He has potential to become a villain, but I doubt he will be the final one.
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uh oh guys... he's Humanised the 'enemy'.

Soon enough we will find that Yhwach was a true Patriot ;_;7
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So why is Bleach much more popular here than Naruto?

Both are sort of enjoyable but not really great shonens, what separates them?
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>>100843639
Their inherent madness. Naruto's is the kind that dwindles down into a sobbing mess while Bleach's is the kind that only grows deeper the more you struggle with it.
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>>100843639
Bleach is more serious and has better wiritng. naruto is basically god.
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We know Ganju trained, but how strong do you guys think he is going to be? Assuming the theory of Kukaku being a former member of the Royal Guard is true he might have some serious training.
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>>100833053
Monster Girl Quest?
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>>100844681
hes done pretty well anyway. he beat up yumichika
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>>100844681

He's carrying his brothers broken sword, he may be able to use it? Seeing Ganju uses Kain's Shikai could be cool. He still has his crazy Kido that he uses, and you can bet good money on the fact that he'll be flipping Getsuga Tenshous all over the place.

I think he'll do well. Kill some Sterritter, be a total bro, and probably get off some good one liners in the process.
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>>100845911
thats not even kaiens zan retard.
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>>100845853
I thought no one was gonna get that reference.
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>>100846025
Come on, you're in /a/.
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Has it been confirmed yet?

>Ichigo Dies
>Absorbs his soul
>Part Hollow
>Hollow is poison to him
>He dies
>Ichigo is reborn from science and or magic
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>>100846259

>>Ichigo is reborn from science and or magic

I'd go with Orihime.
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>>100846259
Well Yhwach is pretty much anti-Quincy so i'm pretty sure the Hollow wont effect him. Also no it won't work considering Yhwach doesn't absorb their soul and only absorbs the portion he put there.
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>>100846467
did u even read it? he absorbs their soul too fuckwit
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>>100846569
Well, it's debatable. What's been said was that Bach's soul fragments copied the essence of the subject into itself and that came back.
There's not really anything about subject's soul itself being affected.
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>>100846569
No he doesn't. Get some reading comprehension retard see.
>>100825644
Only his soul returns, but with a few extra stuff like knowledge, experiences, and talents of that person.
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>>100846772
Not him, but it would also tie into why hollows are completely destroyed when killed by Quincy.

Although all of this makes me wonder.

How did Ishida's grandpa + numerous Quincy make it Soul Society?
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>>100846911
>How did Ishida's grandpa + numerous Quincy make it Soul Society?
By dying.
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>>100846911
Hint: Maybe juha bach isn't a quincy.
Actually, he's probably not.
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>>100847049
why did juha took out a sword, which he used to summon a giant bow, which fired an arrow that then he picked like a sword to attack yamamoto?
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>>100830776
>those arms
>those horns
NNOITORA CONFIRMED

NNOITORA RETURNING
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>MFW BACH IS VOLDEMORT
>ICHIGO STILL HAS PART OF BACH SOUL IN HIM


KUBO NO WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
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>>100847049
didnt u read it? hes the anti-quincy
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>>100847156
Maybe Nnoitra was her brother? She passed on to Soul Society, while he regressed into Hollow?
And died not to ever come back.
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>>100847157
really sherlock? havent you heard of Bachgetsu?
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>>100843639
Bleach has constant kuboing which makes it somewhat interesting. Naruto just really needs to end.
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>>100846911
They got taken there by the Shinigami.
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>>100847216
Maybe the royal guard are natural-born hollows that had their hollow taken out and Nnoitra is her hollow half or some shit?
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>>100843639
Bleach is entertaining. Naruto is past it's expiration date and just drags on.
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>>100847369
Prisoners of war.

Yeah ok, guess that makes sense.
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>>100843846
They both sound like my sex life.
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>>100843639
Naruto doesn't have Rukia in it.
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>>100848587
Naruto doesnt have waifus. it just doesnt. ugly art style
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>>100847775

In the case of Souken, Uryuu's Grandfather, it was corruption in Shinigami ranks.

Mayuri paid some Shinigami soldiers off, so that instead of giving Souken a proper soul burial (thus sending him to SS) they just kept him there, and then gave his soul to Mayuri for experimentation.

Then Ishida shot Mayuri. A lot.
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>>100848823
but failed to kill him. even with letzt stil
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>>100849199
>mayuri
>die
It's impossible. Uryuu couldn't do nothing about it unless he destroyed his entire body Mayuri still got fucked up though. Also I guarantee that Mayuri already figured out that he has a piece of Yhawch's soul in him and probably magically removed it by using bullshit science.
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>>100849687
>implying Mayuri won't deliberately let his soul be taken by Bach then take him over from the inside
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This was a good chapter.
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>>100849687
we've already had Nemu tell Ishida that to kill mayuri you aim for the head. thats a deathflag if ever i saw one
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boemp
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>>100850495
id hate to imagine a bleach without mayuri and his science...
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>>100849851
For the last time Bach does not take their soul he only takes his portion back.
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>>100820432
So if all of the quincies were exterminated for real in the first war, Ywach would cease to exist?
What exactly woke him up from his slumber?
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>>100846911
>Not him, but it would also tie into why hollows are completely destroyed when killed by Quincy.

Or here's a different eyebrow-raiser: normally *anything* that kills a hollow destroys it. Zanpakuto are an exception. An exception that is forged inside the royal realm, not far from the Soul King, and instead makes the souls go to Soul Society. Hmmm.
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>>100853231
he doesnt cease to exist. just reverts back to a pupa state
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How the fuck does one pronounce Yhwach?
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>>100854823
Hashem.
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>>100854823
Yuhrmom
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bump
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>>100809245
>mfw i just realised Unohana, Kyraku and the other old ones may have fought Yhwach at some point.
Shit, Bleach will be a lot more ridiculous than Naruto could ever be.
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>>100858070
i doubt it
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>>100858070
Unohana yes. but kyoraku and ukitake? nope
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>>100858070
flashback of the original holocaust when?
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>>100831828
>except that while hollows are a natural part of the bleach universe, bach is artificial.
Hollows are artificial beings created by the earliest generation of Soul Society and used as tools and research material to aid in their domination of the worlds. Hueco Mundo was once a vibrant, fertile land destroyed by their hubris and greed.

Bach is the universe's natural response to correct the imbalance created by the shinigami and their monstrous "soul king"
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>>100854823
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh
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>>100854044

close, but not quite. When any kind of spiritual being dies it breaks down into lesser parts, like any kind of living creature does. It still feeds back into the world, it's delicious nutrients get reused and the world keeps on spinning.

Quincies take it out of the cycle. Anything they kill, is gone forever. It doesn't get reused, it doesn't become something else, it's gone forever. THAT'S why they all had to die, since the system would bleed out of all resources if Quincies were left to their devices.
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I found the ywach.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw5NnXcXESc
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Where do you guys go to read back issues? I haven't read this series for a long time but I'd love to catch up.
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I personally believe the series will continue to diminish in quality. Seriously, I have had enough of nonsensical reveals! Some make sense and I like( Unohana being the 1st Kenpatchi) but some I despise(Old Man Zangetsu isn't Zangetsu, Hollow Ichigo is! Wait Aren't Hollow Ichigo and Old Man Zangetsu one and the same?). Some rely far too much on shock factor and actually contradict established facts or create logic errors.
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>>100863631
I see someone still believes Soul Society's propaganda.
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So there's something special about this guy, right?
http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Mizuiro_Kojima

Is he part of the Soul King, or what? He's obviously above the Gotei 13, and we've seen the Royal Guards, so what else is there? Or maybe he's even a Quincy?
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>>100866000
batoto
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Ishida definitely has the same power to imprint on souls as Juha Bach.
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>>100869514
how do you figure?
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>>100869571
It's the only way he won't die and he has plot armor.
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>>100869514
Probably not. Ywach probably wants to take over his body. He might just really hate war, but want is afraid of losing his senses. By taking over Ishida (one of the last Quincy) he can prevent that from happening.

He could have used Ryuuken, but only Ishida is dumb enough to think he can outsmart Ywach
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>>100869982
>taking over Ishida

This needs to lead to a three way fight in Ishida's inner mental landscape. Ishida vs Ishida's internal Bach shard vs external Bach trying to bust in and take over.

You'd think it would be a trivial one-sided beatdown, except that Ishida has been hyped up as being very strong, and Ishida plus Ishida's personal Bach were strong enough to not be recalled back when Ishida was a kid.
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>>100866038
>Some rely far too much on shock factor and actually contradict established facts or create logic errors.

Give one actual example, then.



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