Will I be able to solve all math problems
fuck was meant as thread reply, can someone delete
this doesn't even make sense
are you allowed to go diagonally or something?
otherwise it's obviously impossible
Only with the 0 seems impossible.
The second rule 1 is obviously part of the second line of rule 2.
Chris you guys are retarded
>You can use any mathematical symbol as long as it does not break rule 1
It's all one line you fucks
(0! + 0! + 0!)! = 6
(0!+0!+0!)! = 6
(1!+1!+1!)! = 6
square root of 4 + square root of 4 + square root of 4 = 6
Don't have the rest yet
/ is not a mathematical symbol
that's like adding an extra two loops to a 3 to make it an 8
this is either impossible or the person who made it doesn't understand math
>/ is not a mathematical symbol
Unless higher math states an ! is something entirely it's own thing. I'm assuming you're just adding a variable in, such as x or a. In which case your scenario still equals 0.
Well damn, thanks.
Why you gotta be so negative?
it means factorial
Underage faggot detected.
Are you serious?
Exclamation points in upper-level math means you shout the number, which gives it a higher value.
This site is 18+, and since you've obviously never done high-school level math I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
nice research faggot
Learn math before returning to the math thread.
somebody never made it past alg. 2
>/ is not a mathematical symbol
(0!+0!+0!)! = 6
(1!+1!+1!)! = 6
8 - sqrt(sqrt(8+8)) = 6
(sqrt9*sqrt9)-sqrt9 = 6
hope nobody beat me to it
>|2-8| = 6
i was talking about it in the context he used it faggot
not as a division symbol
also, this is doable. I misread it and thought square roots weren't allowed
He's got bars for absolute value around it mate.
Absolute value, bro.
I'm sorry breh
This thread is attracting faggots like there's no tomorrow.
Adding a slash to a = isn't a valid answer, though.
Pack your bags.
Thought they were badly drawn parentheses, sorry everyone.
He did the thing. Whatever it's called. Those lines. I can't remember. It makes it positive
Nice thread to find underage faggots.
hahahahaha it means factorial lol these posts are going to kill me
well, I'm glad for what it is. we differ in 8 but it's the same result
>being this retarded
Absolute value you mongoloid
inequality IS a mathematical expression dofus lol this thread
Wow you people are insecure
I bet half of you people shitposting "HURR HE CANT DO MATH" probably sucked ass in high school/college, and are bandwagoning to feel better about yourselves
I like how you try to sound smart with your stupid bullshit.
But I learned factorials six years before sucking in college.
Hurt your feelings, faggot?
Math is gay
Wow dude do I really have to explain this to you
The question states "YOU CAN USE ANY MATHEMATICAL SYMBOL"
It doesn't say that you can alter pre-existing mathematical symbols
Hence, drawing a slash through an equals sign isn't allowed by the rules of this game
I didn't even post the original comment bro
Plus I'm probably better at math than 99% of this board
I just don't feel like being a douche to people because it isn't there strong area
How high of a level are we talking here? Didn't see it all in high school. Does Canadian education suck that much?
OK, bro ;)
The rules didn't say we can't superimpose two mathematical symbols.
Not underaged, just uneducated
Welcome to /a/
math threads are that way.
This made me chuckle!
nice damage control bro.
but the fact 0! = 1 and 3! = 6 is common knowledge for the sophisticated users of this board, even for me who does mediocre in math
This is the first time ive used this
If you shout a number with an exclamation marks, it is equal to 10. So 0! = 10
If you add another exclamation mark, 0!! = 10 x 10 = 100
And so on, and so forth.
Meaning 0!!!! = 10 x 10 x 10 x 10
Thank you that's an acquired talent. Fake it till you make it.
/a/ is quite faggish about sharing math solutions
>babbys first complex analysis
What a fucking dumbass
/a/- Science and Math
>/a/ - Science and Math with za zombie; no, asistant; no, Kuristina
That's not that advanced, it still has numbers.
/a/ - Let's face it, we're bored, and I've just watched anime two minutes ago
I really dislike the square roots in 8 and 9 is the a way to do them without them?
aren't roots not allowed?
>mfw I don't understand any of this shit
That's what I initially thought it meant, but it means squaring, as in, to the power of two.
How young are you ?
I'm still thinking about a way to solve the last two ones, so meanwhile have this programming derp
yep, I did it with arcsin and arccos.
He probably still sucks on your mom's boobs so, pretty young.
Cube roots aren't allowed because they require you to write the number 3 which would break rule #2.
How does the exclamation point work anyway?
Would constants like e or pi count?
3! = 3*2*1
wat are good anime comic torrent websites
That's a number.
Get on my level noobs
I'm not really willing to proceed with saying wrong stuff just to mess up the thread, so... nofunallowed.
It's a factorial. Probably the following sequence will explain:
>0!= 1 (don't question, that's the way it is)
>(-a)! = youbrokeitman (with a being a natural number)
No thank you.
dude, he'll never learn, just give up
I don't get it
Can people post more of these now that this one's been solved?
but has it really? I'm not seeing solutions to 8 and 9
Well. I learned something new today.
This integral doesn't even have any discontinuities for the given curves and you don't have to do a prime factor decomposition yourself, literally baby's first complex integral.
wait, you can't square a number, but you can square root it? what the fuck?
meh... "draw any numbers"; might as well just have written it
Just for you anon
You can't see a number with the square root symbol
You already solved that what would you want me to do?
there's nothing to solve, 0^0 is essentially a convention and for most purposes you should assume it as undefined
It's ok. I already switched it to english. I don't see what this has to do with factorials though.
I think the distinction is that ^(-1/2) has a defined symbol. Squaring, or taking the nth root is disallowed because that requires explicitly defining a number, but a square root should be okay.
you inverted and negated the number, but your point was made
I'm going to go with 28cm^2.
It's already equal to something and you gave the correct answer, there's nothing to solve.
well factorial is nothing compared into what we use it, it's just one a the basics for the real fun.
How did you come up with that?
What formula do you use?
But how do we explain it in reality ?
It's really obviously 28 cm^2
lol m8, you can do that in the blink of an eye
you should be able to solve this
Your answer will not be accepted without a proof.
In e.g. combinatorics it's useful to have 0^0 so the binomial formula, amongst other things, doesn't need special cases for 0. However when you take the limit of exp(-1/t)^t for t -> 0+ you get 1/e, which is obviously not 1, although lim t->0+ t^t = 1 and lim t->0 exp(-1/t) = 1.
Basically, as long it's discrete it's reasonably safe to assume 0^0 = 1 (exception would be d/dt x^n = nx^(n-1) which obviously doesn't hold for n=1); otherwise consider it indeterminate
ITT: OP gets anons to do his math homework
others reduce to problem solved above
2nd last line, the x in 2x isnt the same x as the other x right from the equal sign
how does x^2 divided by x make 2x equal to 1
Or did you want a specific proof
Since it's only a draft and you can't see any circles, it's no solvable. It could be anything.
0+0+0 != 6
1+1+1 != 6
2+2+2 = 6
3+3+3 != 6
4+4+4 != 6
5+5+5 != 6
6+6+6 != 6
7+7+7 != 6
8+8+8 != 6
9+9+9 != 6
What do I win?
nope because it's the right answer
Kurisu is pretty damn good if she can draw that with a black marker.
Has science gone too far?
the second derivative of x^2 is 2, not one
This guy gets it.
What geometric formula is used though?
who's talking about second derivatives?
>implying 0 0 0 are all the same symbols on the same system
square root should not count, since you're just using a different symbol to represent x^0.5
<what is derivative
Drawing a line from the median to the vertex to turn each of them into halves, then proceed to substitute.
tl;dr do it faget.
here if you are too stupid
There is no way to know that these are really halves.
wait shit I fucked up
I don't know. I just googled it and some russian formula says it's 28.
work on your fucking notation
anyway you're basically ignoring the (x times), write out the stuff in proper notation and you'll see it
shit, I'd really like the formula
do you have a link to it?
>mfw never knew people on /a/ could be this smart
Welp, might as well kill myself
they are because triangles.
didn't fuck up btw, just pretty ugly.
>not knowing m/ɐ/th
>they are because triangles.
You don't know how big there are with the graph given. You're just assuming how big they are.
Thank god I learned to call it "confront theorem"
I still can't believe this stuff is more easier than it looks like.
There's an easier, far more simple solution.
Rule #1 and #2 do not preclude MOVING numbers from row to row, nor does it state that all 10 rows must use 3 elements to create 6. Simple as hell to rearrange everything to always equal 6 with basic (+/-) operands.
>Not squeeze theorem. Which is what it is.
different countries, different languages, etc.
some people call it sandwich here too.
My teacher used to call it "sandwich theorem".
fuck, google can't translate it and most seem to have different answers
I live in Canada and I still saw this in high school.
>Mfw I learned the squeeze theorem in class yesterday
faget you want me to do math? fine. First of all they are triangles, therefore if you draw a line from the vertex to the median they'll be split in halves. I did not make this shit up, go take some geometry.
second, do it faget.
A lesson of humility for me. I can't do all of that. m/ɐ/th is too strong, I go fuck myself in /sci/ right now.
Is it really true what they say about the Canadian educational system .
Let's make this more /a/ related
Can you assume that the intersection point is in the bottom left quadrant of the figure and that the side lengths are integers?
Am I seriously the only one who was taught what ! was in middle school? It was at an american public school. Not to mention I live in SC where the education is supposed to be terrible.
Sure thing bro
I went to an american private school and I never learned that.
(D(0)+D(0)+D(0))! = 6
(D(1)+D(1)+D(1))! = 6
(D(2)+D(2)+D(2))! = 6
(D(3)+D(3)+D(3))! = 6
(D(4)+D(4)+D(4))! = 6
(D(5)+D(5)+D(5))! = 6
(D(6)+D(6)+D(6))! = 6
(D(7)+D(7)+D(7))! = 6
(D(8)+D(8)+D(8))! = 6
(D(9)+D(9)+D(9))! = 6
D( ) is the Dirichlet Function which will, in this case, always equal 1, since there are no irrational numbers involved.
Since he's a cunt, here's how someone else did it.
We'll it's 28 so follow one of the methods that reaches that answer.
What does the "e" and hollw "n" mean?
I live in brazil and I was taught what that is in high school
People here often talk that in america they teach derivatives and integers in high school, is it true?
Learned it in AP Statistics.
Didn't some japanese guy supposedly find the solution for this that's currently under evaluation?
Holy shit thats awesome.
You know there's a reason why I hate this bitch. This is one of that reason. Someone's already answered it though
That you're not going to be able to solve this
Let a = b = 1, c = 2^(1/n) (this works for all n in N). Try harder anon...
I never learned in even in High school, then again I never took calc.
I don't think that's solvable unless you give me some values for a b and c. Like If I made them all = to 0, then n can be any number you want.
I assume you meant integrals, and yes, depending on what math classes you take. Not everyone takes the same high school curriculum.
If don't even know this you won't be able to solve it anyway.
How do you know it's 28? How do you know the other answers couldn't be correct?
you don't seem to get that you don't get two triangles with the same surface if you just connect two corners of a trapeze
It depends on the school and if you are in one of the more advanced programs. I learned calculus in my junior year of high school
I am not answering your problems until you answer my question.
Why does worse girl always win?
tfw bad at math
Sadly over the head of people here.
Not Japanese, although part of the proof relied on a technique some Japanese person invented I believe? It's already been proven years ago.
>People here often talk that in america they teach derivatives and integers in high school, is it true?
Depends on what math classes you take. I took Calc my sophomore year of high school, but I was on an accelerated program. My sister, meanwhile, never got further than algebra while she was in high school.
You learn that in grade 9 math. You won't understand this if you're that young.
Oh whatever, I was thinking of the abc conjecture.
That it sucks? No.
Fuck my life.
-People with good taste like best girl.
-People with bad taste like worst girl.
-Companies want to make money
-They make money by appealing to the most people
-The number of people with bad taste > the number of people with good taste
-It follows, then, that companies will make more money by appealing to people with bad taste
-Therefore, worst girl wins so as to appeal to those with bad taste
I-isn't the result 0?
There are 5 mathematicians, 5 engineers, and 5 artists. How many distinct ways can they arrange themselves if all the mathematicians come before all the engineers. You may leave your answer unsimplified.
You can't be this retarded. A median does exacty this, split a triangle into two smaller triangles with the same area.
Did you guys know that if you differentiate the formula for the area of a circle you get the formula for the circumference?
Like, woah, that should be so obvious.
You have a long way waiting for you
The artists wouldn't attend.
Is /a/ full of engineers?
You seem to misunderstand which triangles share surface area. This should help you out.
The factorial of 0 returns a value of 1.
Yeah, I just remembered 0!=1
But I can't understand why.
But even if that was the case what about the arrangement of the 5 mathematicians and 5 engineers?
Define your a,b,c. Fermat's last theorem only applies for a,b,c in Q; in R >>100808502 happens and you look like an idiot (you are define your fucking variables)
the post linked in the post is deleted
I hate permutations. It'll basically be total number of ways you can arrange them divided by the total number of ways you can arrange mathematicians before engineers I believe.
Why else would we like traps?
don't worry, if you're not a mathematician, you have no reason to.
Nope but you are on the right track
because of the position that is cupping 0
It's just defined as such.
So, how dou you know, that the lines of the trapezes are the medians of the new triangles?
I think that is one way. I'm thinking of another that is much easier though.
Hint: Figure out where the artists go first
question: is it actually a square or is it a generic rectangle. if it's a square this is easily solvable; for a rectangle not so much
Fuck it. The answer is cat. The answer is always fucking cat.
That's why we have an archive, anon.
>if all the mathematicians come before all the engineers
Can they go for a second round?
Welcome on board .
>oompa loompa of science
Physics major here.
Change of subject
Engineer are Math drop outs.
It has to be a square since the hashes on the perimeter indicate identical lengths.
Jesus, I was curious to know it, but all that pure math scare me, thanks god I'm an architecture student
There is a reason.
How do you know they share the same surface area?
it's not going too well though
Each pair of triangles share a common base and height. A=(1/2)bh, that's elementary-school math.
Don't wake up the sciencefags, before this turns into a science vs. engineering battle.
>mfw I wanted physics, but in my country a physicist isn't even considered a profession
and I wanted the dosh
Katana cuts through everything. Being folded 1000 times makes it 1000x sharper and stronger than any other metal.
Here's one that stumped >>>/b/ for a while, but I'm sure /a/ can get it.
Why the fuck math threads are so much better than anime and manga thread here? Should I go to /sci/ if I want a decent anime thread?
The samurai, with one hit
nope, they just indicate that it's parallel
Computer Engineer and Math dual major here. Engineering is harder.
Yeah, that's why I was confused; saw similar markers to indicate omission and I'm not an engineer so I didn't know that's a convention.
This is /a/ discussing anything not anime related.
The samurai will perform the senpoku
Haha, no. You have to take context into account; in this case, they indicate equal lengths.
No, parallel lines are marked with arrows. Identical lengths are marked with dashes. You pretty clearly can't have a quadrilateral with all sides parallel to each other.
You are also correct.
We should trade with them, they sure will like what we have.
Even harder than diamond, I can assure you
I'm starting my degree in Comp engineering this year.
have fun, don't let the math crush you
How many are on the plane total? You never told us.
well for me it's electrical engineering
This is where the problem lies, seems like different countries have different conventions on this.
Here parallel lines are marked with dashes.
Is this before or after they collide with the twin towers and the pentagon?
5!^2 * 15!/10!
Hooray, going for second year of mechanical
This next semester, differential equations shall rape my angus
>Middle school fag
You chose more wisely, then.
Both of you should study up on complex numbers, though.
Fucking lel at the people who try to make themselves better by insulting other people who made stupid mistakes
Let me guess, failed high school algebra so you wan't to feel smart about yourself by picking on people at your same level online?
Engineering major btw, I could probably wreck your autist ass at math any day
So am I the only chemistry MSc here in a math thread on /a/?
I've literally never seen any English source not use tick marks for parallel and hatch marks for congruence.
I'm glad we know now. Thanks!
Rule 1 was violated.
I wish I could suck an /a/nons dick.
One thing is to be ignorant, but he went out of his way to try to sound smart without knowing high school math.
this thread is a fucking gold mine.
>Engineering major btw, I could probably wreck your autist ass at math any day
As a third-year engineering student, I'm going to have to say that you're full of shit. A bit of calculus and diff eq is nothing compared to what actual mathematicians do. Unless you were really just bragging about being able to beat a middle-schooler, no, you're not that good at math.
Not sure if I'm the first one who thought of this
Yes. Good job! I'm impressed.
Is this hard for you?
Well we speak german in the part of Switzerland I live. And here it has always been that dashes indicate parallel sides. (Even now at University level).
>wondering the whole time why people just assume lengths in the thread..I felt so stupid
Hint: picking on people who aren't good at math in a 4chan thread doesn't make you appear smart
It just makes you look insecure and autistic
Knowing the user base here, most of you barely passed the bare minimum of high school math
Hey thats me.
False. The Boeing 747 has 18 wheels. So the real answer is 54.
Here. If you still don't get it, I tried.
That was actually right?
I Learned it my third year of high school.
underage plz go
>Knowing the user base here, most of you barely passed the bare minimum of high school math
This isn't /v/, smartass.
>doesn't make you appear smart
This is a math thread, you can't just say something without definite proof.
That's some real projecting.
I've taken courses on advanced linear algebra, complex analysis and real analysis, and quantum mechanics, and I'm an engineering major.
Why do you think they're mutually exclusive?
mods please ban under age.
Thank you. But my problem was this:
So why do ou subtract the (B+C) part though? Rest of it makes sense
That prove that we have a good taste.
Yes. Now try it to where there are still 5 math, 5 eng, and 5 art but they arrange themselves so directly after every artist comes an engineer.
Squeeze theorem is a first semester university topic here in Germany.
Wow, so much math and physics. You probably don't even know measure theory, stop trying to sound smart.
English major here, I don't know what I'm doing in this thread.
I just like Kurisu
Nope, 58 is the answer.
One Boeing 747 has 22 wheels for some oddfuck reason, but the others have 18 wheels.
So, it'd be 58 in total.
Are all the engineers still behind all mathematicians?
No one's trying to look smart here. The ones who got picked were mostly the one who did so and failed terribly.
Just because you know the name of an area of math doesn't mean you're smart either faggot
That's a grad level course, and I'm only 21
I bet you haven't even taken college math yet, and are just naming random shit to sound smart
no, different problem.
Because (A+B)+(C+D)-(B+C) = (A+B)+(C+D)-B-C = (A+B-B)+(C+D-C) = A+D
So I do Computer Science but it's a an MEng, as in Engineering.
I'm so confused.
If you really like than become a engineer and build a machine that make her real.
>implying you aren't doing just that
Please tell me what linear algebra is then anon.
Give me an example of the kind of things you do in it
Mother of god...
At last I truly see. calculus is love... calculus is life.
And quantum mechanics which is basically applied linear algebra, easy as fuck.
I'm 20 and I'll be taking an exam on it next month. It's an undergrad course for math majors.
compsci is taught in the college of engineering at my university
Matrices are easy only as long as they're full of numbers, and not arrays of other matrices. I swear that was the worst course I've ever taken.
It really depends on how deep you're willing to delve.
>use your linear algebra knowledges to express the following conic equation (x^@ + xy+ y^2 + etc)
>prove that given this specific subspace, the existence of a zero can also assure that the following... etc. etc.
>prove the existence of the zero in a vectorial space
Find the null space of a set of equations.
I would give you half credit on that one for creativity
>mistyped everything in the first one.
If you really like then become a engineer and build a machine that make her real.
(0! + 0! + 0!) = 6
(1 + 1 + 1)! = 6
2 + 2 + 2 = 6
3 * 3 - 3 = 6
sqrt(4) + sqrt(4) + sqrt(4) =6
5 + (5 / 5) = 6
6 + 6 - 6 = 6
7 - (7 / 7) = 6
8 - sqrt(sqrt(8+8)) = 6
(sqrt(9))! + 9 - 9 = 6
Do I win anything?
Why do you just decide that those things are equal to each other? The As and the Bs and the Cs
IIRC, if you integrate the formula for the circle area you get the formula for the spherical surface
Not quite but you are close.
Quantum mechanics goes way beyond applied linear algebra
I fucking hate it when people generalize like that
It's a hell lot more interesting than linear algebra
And also, linear algebra is still an area of research to this day
It can become a lot more difficult if you don't just skim the surface of it
Simple, because (A+B)+(C+B) can also be written as (A+D)+(B+C). So for it to equal (A+D) on both sides you have to subtract (B+C)
Someone post the Ika thing please.
But who do I side with in the arguments between Science and Engineering?
Also finding eigenvalues and eigenvectors.
Guys, guys you are all fucking intelligent. I don't care if you guys know the surface area of your mom's vulva or the volume of the breast of the girl from the last doujin you fapped to. I came here to solve, not watch you guys show off how intelligent you are.
Can we just please go back to solving stuff?
>linear algebra is about matrices
>engineer level linear algebra
zero is in a vector space by definition; even if you have to verify that axiom's consistency it's really trivial
I was being flippant, i know it's way more. In the undergrad course I was taking it was basically some complex analysis with simple-ish linear algebra.
I'm on my to you right now to give you the sloppiest blow job ever given.
>mfw probably going for the robotics field, probably
I'll make waifu robots whose hips move on their own and advertise them on J-list
4chan likes to flex it's STEM knowledge since it's not good at anything else
I'm an artist, why am I in this thread? I haven't taken a math beyond algebra 1
Because that's how geometry works you mouthbreather.
Oh and the first one is missing a factorial at the end, obviously.
Compsci is a lot more practical than physics or chemistry
99% of the research performed by your average physics professor is completely useless in the real world, and is only used to discover trivial things
>4chan likes to flex it's STEM knowledge since it's not good at anything else
Don't bundle us in with the rest of the 4chan faggotry.
You said give an example. It is one of the most simple ones.
because you, like each and every one of us, is bored as fuck, otherwise you would be doing something else
we watch obscure chinese cartoons all day every day
if you're here you're bored beyond watching Lucky Star
And you have to be pretty bored to watch Lucky Star
At least you can draw kuhwhy anime girls.
You haven't taken geometry?
Isn't that like a middle school requirement?
You posted the answer.
> basically some complex analysis with simple-ish linear algebra
My first course was like that too for the first half.
Did you get to solving the hydrogen atom?
That was by far the coolest part
What is this, the shinigami realm ?
>>>linear algebra is about matrices
Well? My shit-tier professor told me so, but then again, he was so bad at teaching that I think our section never scored above 50, average, on any exam.
Finite-dimensional linear algebra is usually pretty easy, sure. But quantum mechanics involves a lot of functional analysis, which is a whole lot harder.
>haven't taken math beyond algebra 1
Isn't algebra 2 and geometry required to graduate?
confirmed for underage or retard
>Picture rules explitly says no squaring a number
>Ppl using square roots
>Y-yeah I totally did it guys
Stop blogging about your courses and how are you so smart for taking them. Post problems or solutions or go to >>sci/
How do you know they are not magnets?
compeng can do it too.
Didn't mean to quote OP
No adding numbers. When you write squares, you add a 2 superscripted.
Square root signs don't have numbers.
>I don't know what squaring a number means
Squaring is raising by the power of 2. There is no accepted symbol for it. What the rule says is that you can't write a small 2 above a number in order to square it, because that would be writing a number.
A square ROOT has an accepted symbol and can thus be used. A CUBIC root can't.
There is a thread on /a/. What is the percentage of anons that are total and complete repulsive assholes.
How do you know they are?
They obviously have the same base length and height. Which was what I was trying to show with that picture.
A=a*x holds true for both triangles named A.
That wasn't me.
Uhh hold on let me find my lecture notes
in applied physics we got as far as molecule approximations, in theoretical physics we went about as far with some stuff about entanglement etc. towards the end.
this post is retarded and I feel retarded for having read it
How else would they work?
>blaming the professor
I fucking hate faggots like you
Even if the dude is the worst in the world, at least try learning it.
Also, linear algebra is about vector spaces. Not fucking matrices
I highly doubt that the dude said that
Sounds more like somebody who went to class twice and stopped showing up
Basic geometry yeah
>implying I didn't drop out to get a job doing CA
Tho, I wish I learned more advanced geometry and trig because oddly enough it goes hand and hand with art. So I am struggling to learn some things about art because of this.
Did you even understand the rules? There were only 2 you know.
>No draw number
>draw symbols but no draw numbers
No fucking shit, take a circle with radius r and a circle with radius r+dr, the difference in area for infinitely small dr will be equal to the circumference times dr, meaning that A(r+dr) = Circ(r)*dr+A(r), dA = Circ(r)*dr -> the circumference of a circle is the derivate of its area. Because for circles and spheres the direction of expansion of the higher dimensional quantity is always parallel to the lower dimensional quantity.
Spacecraft engineer checking in.
>blaming the professor
well, there are times in which we can't really help it
at least here there are teachers that are only teaching so they can have the university fund their project
you can try learning for yourself, but teachers are needed for a reason, otherwise books would be enough.
Linear algebra is about vector spaces and linear transformations. A matrix is just a representation of a linear transformation in coordinates, and multiplying two matrices corresponds to applying the two linear transformations in succession. If you only view matrices as arrays of numbers, you miss all the geometric intuition. (Plus, coordinate-free proofs are often much more conceptually clear and satisfying.)
Computer engineers and comp sci yes
Who else is this pathetic?
I don't even have that much of a problem with off-topic, but this became a dick measuring contest.
I see. In all seriousness what are some of the more advanced features of linear algebra as to why people think it is so hard. I'm just minoring in math but i've take a few courses related to linear algebra and all of them have been pretty easy.
Idk could be a trick question
Then you probably did the hydrogen atom. That usually gets covered right before approximations begin.
Approximations are alright but they aren't that rewarding.
It's fucking cool when you find the wave function certain n, m and l, and your plot looks exactly like the stupid orbitals they discussed all the time in high school chem
Spherical harmonics are also legit
Who besides engineer and natural science majors are pathetic enough to spend their evening talking about waifus with random people on the internet?
Is it me or does this board seem to attract STEM majors to it?
Mayuri was the best girl
Me, I have nothing else to do. Waiting for death.
Physics and astronomy major coming through.
I should probably take engineering courses so I can not waste my time on theoretical physics.
Eat shit liberal arts majors
Oh god, please stop. I can't handle that shit; I don't even know why the course was a requirement for CompE in the first place.
Yeah; we worked with infinite dimensional spaces but never had to do anything particularly complicated that'd require a functional analysis course.
I found this out the hard way. Go to the damn class, even if it's bad or you fall asleep or get distracted. The only class where self-study really worked was where I understood the concepts by myself, which were like 4 out of 20.
And then you get infinite dimensional vector spaces and your matrices vanish or become really unhandy
Yeah I just said that in my post.
Once the stuff you get is no longer intuitive. There's just different degrees of intuitiveness for people.
Not the guy you responded to.
To me, quantum physics only really starts getting interesting when you start discussing interaction of light and matter, effects of observation, and generally multiple-particle Hilbert spaces. Not that the Hydrogen atom wasn't interesting, but I didn't find it all that fascinating and spherical harmonics are just annoying.
books are more than enough for anything, honestly
It might not be as efficient, but if you put the time and effort in you can honestly learn anything.
Sure, some people pick up things faster than others, but the people who say "I hate math, no matter what I do I just can't do it :(" are full of shit.
They're just lazy assholes who don't even want to try learning it, and then pin the problem on something out of their control
If they just tried to fucking learn it without be
to be honest, this whole realm of the internet, in specific 4chan
>Eat shit liberal arts majors
Hey man, somebody has to draw the h-manga.
>You have an egg
>You are tasked to drop it somewhere two stories high
>One storey is 25 meters high
>You are given a bundle of straw, a bucket of water and a kilogram of flour
How do you make sure the egg doesn't breaking after the fall from said height?
You'll need it. Linear algebra and calculus are huge parts of comp eng and without knowing at least those you might as well stop being in college.
Math major here, I don't know what half of this stuff means
I make a keeki with it.
but anyone can draw.
Because STEM is predominantly men in the age range that 4chan appeals to?
They have the same demographic.
Finite-dimensional spaces are pretty straightforward, but when you get to infinite dimensions and add extra structure (topology, norm, inner product, etc.), stuff gets complicated (and interesting). Read up on functional analysis if you're curious — it's a cool field.
>interaction of light and matter
>effects of observation
Aren't those really fucking simple?
Like that's what you cover in the first week of class
And also, a "multi-particle hilbert space" isn't a real thing. Are you trying to say something else?
Why didn't you just say 150 feet or 50 m?
You didn't specify bucket size, I'll just assume the bucket is 150 feet tall so I'll just drop it into the bucket.
You don't need $100,000 in education to draw dicks
Aren't most h-manga artists drop outs?
I mean did a guy like fatalpulse go to university to better draw his mindbreak doujins.
Even then actual artist majors despite being 90% fags are still superior to the other spectrum of liberal arts.
Thanks I will look it up when I have the time. I'm a computer engineering major anyways so there is probably some way that it may end up relating to it.
Break it before it falls.
That's all fun and well until you get into differential equations with linear algebra. I haven't met anyone yet who completely understands the derivation of the extended Kalman filter (which is commonly used in GPS applications). This miracle of linear algebra is pretty damn difficult to understand, and Geometric intuition really doesn't cut it here.
I've just got in CompSci and I can't even get past the first math course (Analysis)
This shit is so fucking hard
Are you stupid or trolling? Interaction of light and matter as in the Jaynes-Cummings model and other related models, lasers etc. They are not simple (well they're not that difficult, but certainly harder than the H atom), and are covered in more advanced classes.
A multi-particle Hilbert space is a simpler (and admittedly slightly less accurate) of saying that you're operating in a tensor product of multiple hilbert spaces, such as for multiple spinors.
>You'll need it.
I haven't yet; literally none of the material covered has shown up in any other course. Most of what we do is actually practical, or at least grounded in the real world. Calculus has many uses, but abstract, higher-dimensional mathematics? Why?
holy shit guys
I mean, holy shit
>/ is not a mathematical symbol
>Unless higher math states an ! is something entirely it's own thing
Is /a/ full of retards?
I need it, but I've got some economy courses
He probably doesn't know what's he talking about. Effects of observation are the very first thing you have to learn in order to understand quantum mechanics. And he probably meant product hilbert spaces or however you call that in english (particle 1 in hilbert space H1, particle 1 in hilbert space H2, total hilbert space is H = H1 (x) H2)
what were you expecting? no one to be autistic?
Planning on going somewhere in the computational areas.
What's the hottest thing right now?
Computer Science? Computer Engineering?
And for those who are in this area, is it fun and/or satisfying?
What about money income?
No but you, for picking the two worst posts in a 420 replys thread.
I cant tell if you are impressed or disappointed.
I was expecting that the discussion would just keep itself to fallacious math problems coupled with a troll fest
not algebra and quantum mechanics
You have a balance beam, the kind of scale that tips from one side to the other, depending on the weight on each side. On each side is a beaker, half-filled with water. The sides are in balance. Now, on the left side, you submerge a ping-pong ball suspended by a string. On the right side, you submerge a steel ball of the same volume as the ping-pong ball suspended from a crane.
Challenge: Does the balance beam tip to the right, to the left, or does it remain unchanged?
>tfw you've reported it several times but it made no difference
Not that guy, but just be more careful with your terminology. Way too many anons here who just say stuff they read on wiki without actually understanding it to sound intelligent and inaccurate terminology is one of the signs.
Proofs are the road to enlightenment, and geometric intuition is your lantern.
I like these threads, it's impressive to see how I talk with such capable people on daily bases, you guys are the best.
I still remember when some guy donated 10,000 to Little Witch Academia in some thread here on /a/.
Fuck that was pretty genius.
This thread never happened. I don't want to think I'm sharing this board with this mathematically inept retards
Same. Displacement etc.
Tips to the left, the steel ball doesn't actually have an effect on the balance beam.
Do CS and study AI so you can make our waifus real.
I do know what I'm talking about, and I mean 'effects of observation' in more technical terms rather than just the "intro to QM" way of teaching "it collapses the wave function and we're left with an eigenstate of the measured operator". As for the Hilbert space, yeah, that's what I meant. See >>100811718
I didn't want to start talking about Hilbert product spaces because I honestly wasn't sure everyone would get it.
>tfw I know the material and do well on exercises but can't take exams/study for exams for shit so I have way too many courses I gotta retake.
I have never understood and will never understand people being elitist about their undergrad/masters majors.
Not sure, but really, be prepared at a fuckload of math. They're not there to teach you the basics of programming or something, get ready for things like graph theory, Turing machines, network theory, etc. I've seen too much people drop out of their engineering students because they didn't expect their second and third years to be filled with abstract math.
tips to the left, ez
I'm in computer engineering. Go to Comp Sci if you want to do application programming. GO to computer engineering if you want to learn how computers work and lower level programming.
if i do remember good, higher-dimensional mathematics is mostly used in encryption and all things related to it, which amke it of great important to comp eng .
tip to the left
because the ping pong ball and string have weight, unless they're ideally of no mass whatsoever
now, which is heavier, 2D waifus or dreams?
Tip to the right. The pingpong ball has air inside and will pull the beam up.
Let f(x,y,z) = 6 for all real values x, y, z
f(0,0,0) = 6
f(1,1,1) = 6
f(2,2,2) = 6
f(3,3,3) = 6
f(4,4,4) = 6
f(5,5,5) = 6
f(6,6,6) = 6
f(7,7,7) = 6
f(8,8,8) = 6
f(9,9,9) = 6
What do I win?
didn't think someone would reply with my name but fuck off
I've heard that CS is bland and hard as fuck. Keep in mind that it doesn't really have anything to do with computers.
CE is fun though, as long as you're prepared to cover a huge range of topics. And yes, you'll bring in the dosh as long as you can find a job.
factorials wouldn't count either then.
also you can solve every line with the same method
write each line as
where x equals the lines number.
you do have to shove your fingers in your ears and keep repeating 0 is not a number for this to work.
0 is a number, damnit.
Remains unchanged, both ball exerts a net force of 0 on the balance
How much programming is there to be done in CE? I'm great at physics and math, but I only did an entry level programming course and was shit at it.
Did you drop school at 10 or something?
no it tips to the right the steel ball adds weight in the right
It really depends on the University and the courses you take.
WRONG, 0 is just a symbol and can be associated with any number.
>A couple of retards fucked up
>The whole thread is inept!
There is a fair amount of lower level programming. Don't do it anon. Go to electrical I would suggest.
It happens, some advice though, don't try to do too much at the same time. If you only have the time to study for a set number of exams, postpone the ones above that number, and ace the ones which you can do.
None of us are being elitist; we just talk with likeminded people about stuff we enjoy or at least study.
I know what they're for, I know what they do, but goddamn they weird me out every time. Not having sufficient background before getting those dumped on you sucks.
Wait, isn't it the other way around? In that case, poster i quoted above take compeng.
So be it, I will do it for you.
I never had any problem with math, so I could probably pull it off.
I would rather do application programming, but if what >>100812120 this guy said I'm not so sure anymore.
I will do a little more research on it.
Also, by low level programming you mean stuff like drivers, and native processor language?
Could I develop H.266 on the future for Daiz?
This really depends because some universities do CS like Software Engineering and others do more on the low level side.
I'll just finish my CS bac and do graduate studies on Electrical engineering to actually be able to build things from scratch.
Hey, still can't hurt to have a good geometric intuition for basic linear algebra. Sure, it'll only take you so far, but that's better than nothing (or viewing matrices as merely "arrays of numbers with a weird multiplication rule" or something).
Walk two stories up, set the bundle of straw on the floor, then drop the egg onto the straw from a couple inches up. This is "dropping it somewhere two stories high"; there was no requirement that it fall the whole distance.
No dude, the steel ball has mass, attracts the beam, since there is no gravity whatsoever, and gravity is generated between their own masses
I'm high dude
Proofs are, like, the opposite of intuitive.
That sounds more like CS, or some kind of informatics, than CE. At the very least, it's a specialist field of CE, and not one that I plan on tackling.
Consider a square ABCD with a diagonal AC, creating two equal triangles ABC and CDA, calling the base and height of the two triangles BC,AB and CD, DA respectively. Now shift point A slightly to the right, keeping AB parallel to CD. This slightly shifts diagonal AC as well.
Now, anon, the height and base of CDA remain unchanged, but the height of ABC, which is AB, has decreased, reducing its area. Place this example into the lower right region of the trapezoid, and you realize you need to fuck off.
Go study physics or math then. Pretty much any engineering study will have some programming in it still, but CE does have the most.
But the pingpong ball and the steel ball has the same volume.
Are right, the rest wrong
ChemE here, but I'm forced to take a circuits class, and I don't know jack shit about anything about circuits
How hard are they/how fucked am I?
Here's a picture of a question from one of my professor's midterms.
Some of the people in this thread are. But I'm referring to 4chan in general.
>0 is both a number and the numerical digit used to represent that number in numerals. It fulfills a central role in mathematics as the additive identity of the integers, real numbers, and many other algebraic structures. As a digit, 0 is used as a placeholder in place value systems.
Gonna have to disagree with you there, anon.
Numbers aren't even real, you faggots.
It's less of an issue with the quantity, although I had that issue too. It's just I get lost in all the material and then forget something trivial that really just takes a moment to look up in the lecture notes when doing exercises and you lose 20 out of 100 points on the exam because of it. I tried tackling it by redoing the exercises without looking at lecture notes or at least writing down what I have to redo but it's very time consuming (course in question was calculus 3, submanifolds of R^n, some measure theory, integrals in R^n)
>I can't into math past basic calculus
How do you not go nuts learning higher math?
The only force being exerted on the scale would be the displacement of the liquid correct?
The neither the steel ball held by a string nor the ping pong ball suspended by the string should be exerting any direct force on the scale.
Therefore there shouldn't be any change.
And here I am having barely made it through HS at 21. This makes me genuinely sad, I wish I was smart like you guys.
Answer this hoe.
what does the triangle mean?
How can math be real if numbers aren't real?
why did you even quote the second guy
Oops, meant to quote >>100812233
Thats just an OpAmp question. Remember, you can assume the current going into each enterence of the OpAmp is zero. You should be able to use nodal analysis to figure out the rest of the values.
That's pretty easy... if you know how Op-Amps work (assuming they're ideal).
90% of people in this thread are lying/bullshitting about the amount of knowledge they actually have
For some reason people here believe that they gain magic internet points for bragging about their intelliegence
Don't worry, you're probably as good as most of the people ITT
No computer engineers have to learn about computers from the circuitry up. Including the programming. The CS majors don't go into circuits at all.
We have to learn machine code and stuff like that. Learn how to program micro controllers and stuff like that. The languages the CS people learn are easy to learn on your own if you are in computer engineering in my opinion. They learn more theory stuff, but once again that is easish to learn on your own when looking at it the other way around.
Basic op-amp, piss easy if you just pay attention in class. In fact, circuit analysis in general is just a few formulas used over and over.
Proofs are the hardest part about university level math. If you can't get an intuition for it, work with a tutor; that helped me a lot. Practice and look at our lecture notes to see how the prof did it. After that it's usually enough to look at the definitions of whatever you covered and you'll figure something out.
>believe that they gain magic internet points for bragging about their intelliegence
it's more about self assurance
Yeah, misquoted that, sorry.
I haven't even started learning anything yet, I was just curious as to how complicated something like that was.
So if I just understand how each individual component works, and do a bunch of practice problems I'll be good?
How can science be real if math isn't real?
He meant / as in the =/= does not equals sign
Of course, of course, it helps a lot with understanding things which are relatively easily intepreted as actual dimensional spaces, and particularly in attitude control it's applicable when you start getting into fun things with the orthonormal quaternion transmuted matrix (who the fuck invented that term), but it has its limits once people start linearizing and differentiating things like crazy.
How can computers be real if science isn't real?
And this pulls
How can 4chan be real if computers aren't real?
Couldn't you just mix in letters with + and - in there?
Turn it into algebra?
But numbers are both real and imaginary
Drop it from three stories high. That way it would travel two stories down and stll wouldn't have been broken yet.
This is why I love CE, despite its including some shitty courses, too.
>from the circuitry up
*Good* proofs are intuitive. Like the picture in >>100811960 — that's a proof of the Pythagorean theorem right there. Or Euclid's proof that there are infinitely many prime numbers (sketch: given any finite list of primes, multiply them all together and add one; the result isn't divisible by any of the primes on the list, so its prime divisors aren't on the list). A good proof makes it clear why the statement has to be true.
What sort of proofs are you talking about, anyway? "The opposite of intuitive" sure isn't what comes to mind when I think of proofs. (Unless you're referring to those awful abominations known as "two-column proofs"? Those are a disgrace, a pedagogical disaster, and unworthy of the name "proof".)
Pretty much, if you can do algebra
Yeah, i think the best would be electrical engineering. They go up from scratch to how to make a full functional circuit with it's own programming language.
It's an opamp, in this question probably an ideal one, the idea is that it'll generate any voltage and current at its output port in order to force the difference between its input ports to 0. Very elementary component in amplifier designs, though I'd advice starting with nullors first.
Which course are most likely to build robots anyway? That's what I'm interested in.
I couldn't imagine doing compsci/eng
I mean, I already spend all my free time on a computer
If that was my job, I would spend 100% of my waking hours on a fucking computer screen
My eyes would fall out of my fucking head
Being a systems engineer is the best job ever
I just get to walk around a college campus all day and make sure that everything is functioning properly, and force dirty laborers to do all the repair work for me
0 + A + 0 + 0 = 6 (A=6)
1 + 1 + 1 + B = 6 (B=3)
Sorry if that's retarded, I literally got 0 on my national mathematics test.
>mfw i'm reading posts that don't actually exist
Tips to the left very slightly due to gravity between the crane and right side creating a slight upward pull.
The forbidden cooperation of a mechanical engineer, a chemical engineer, an electrical engineer and a computer scientist.
No. A number isn't both real and imaginary (except for 0 depending on how you define the space of imaginary numbers which is a silly thing to do anyway). It's both real and complex, though.
What's a two-column proof? In any case, he probably thinks that finding a way to prove something is counterintuitive which certainly is so until you practice it.
I've already taken thermo, mass/heat transfer, chemical separations, physical chemistry and kinetics
I think I'm good lel
That's usually MechE stuff. Also possibly EE.
right answer is >>100807708
Yeah, I understood your image. A proof of something basic like that is fine, but a proof of something you don't even know to be true in the first place is just painful, for me anyway, especially if it's something that can't be represented in two or three dimensions. And then you're shown how it's supposed to be done, and the solution just looks like a bunch of blind leaps. Maybe I give up too easily, but it's a feeling like, 'What the shit, how did you expect me to guess that?'
Like he said
did you just not learn algebra or what?
not being rude just curious
I did Information systems. The only part I use my Computer is to check my mails ones a day.
You forgot the +C.
I'd really go for extracurricular activities on that one. That's where I got most of my mechatronics experience (amateur rocketry is pretty cool, and we've got a bunch of aerospace and electrical engineering students).
Aside from that, Electronics and CS have the most chance to encounter robots during their courses.
Decartes please, you don't actually exist.
he deserves the shame.
I have no idea why it would have anything to do with it
and mechatronics exist don't they?
Not all facts have a *good* proof though. The proof of the Theorema Egregium is pretty shit...
But be prepared to be massively disappointed
To get to building robots you need to go through years of solving differential equations and CAD modeling
not an integral
You had one job.
There is no integral there you fool.
I know this is old, but 16 + 32 - 20 = 28, which is the answer. This works because every side is equal.
What do you mean information systems?
My kind of "systems" Is like water, HVAC, heating/cooling, and chemical treatment shit
I'm a Chemical Engineer
Microcircuitry and things like a synthetic skin in a humanoid one.
Dont forget the matrices...
Unless your program is shit and they have you playing with Lego Mindstorms or Vex shit.
Computer Information Systems? If that's it I ran the hell away from that one.
Achieving the goal is worth everything, even if it's worthless and not full optional.
It's half ComSci/Eng half economics.
I played with that once
Man the software you use to program it is shit
"Visual fluxogram programming, because why not?"
Arduino is better on every regard. My folks also have a raspberry pi, but I haven't played with it yet
Well, it's in Switzerland and I had a lot of courses which I could choose from and was literally asked by 3 banks to work for them while still beeing in University.
I wish I had a goal. Right now I'm just studying phys/math for the sake of it and missing motivation is pretty annoying. At least education is free here (I wish it weren't, small classes where you have to attend and actually converse with the prof are way better than the 150-300 person lectures with small group exercises that don't go anywhere) (I know I'm being delusional)
Criminal Justice masters and Astrophysics Bachelors, working on Masters in physics.
Yeah, a bunch of graduates working in banks came to lecture about their successes and implementations of X security standards but the whole thing was too much BUSINESS and too little substance for me.
>150-300 person lectures
>What's a two-column proof?
A terrible idea taught in many high school geometry classes in the States. Instead of writing out an actual line of reasoning that makes it clear what's going on, students are forced to use a "two-column" format with a formula on the left and an axiom justifying the step on the right. It's a completely inappropriate level of rigor for the course, and it drains all the intuition and beauty out of it and encourages formal manipulation of rules without understanding what's going on. (Pic related. Yes, it's really that bad.)
True. But that's often because no one understands it well enough yet to come up with a nice conceptual argument.
Yeah, coming up with proofs is hard, especially before you've developed a good intuition for the subject. (But writing lots of proofs is a big part of building that intuition, so it's tough starting out...)
>small classes where you have to attend and actually converse with the prof
This only works if the professors are interested in teaching. At my school, smaller classes just mean that you get a bigger slice of shit. There's no winning.
I've had 500+ person lectures. Just depends on faculty size.
What so surprising about it ?
aren't most universities like that ?
We have a lecture room for 500 or so people. I'm so glad that at my uni (RWTH Aachen if anyone wants to google) the physics faculty isn't as huge as the ME/EE faculty.
They make their own programming language? I've never heard of that. That is more of the CS and CE stuff.
Electrical or computer engineering. Both majors are required to by the end of undergrad
My university's compsci lecture last semester had 1250 students enrolled
Back in my school days I thought I wouldn't ever need math if I have a calculator.
Any comp sci people out there? How necessary is math to programming? I know some linear algebra, and a couple courses worth of calculus, but I don't know them well. It's the kind of thing I could figure out how to look up, but can't do off the top of my head. Am I fucked?
>Course: Business Administration 1
>4 rooms with showing live recording of the room where the prof was
>half of the people failed
Not in the US from what I heard.
To programming what?
>To programming what?
it depends very heavily on the types of things you plan on making. Writing a 3d modeling engine? You are in trouble. A vast majority of software engineering and problems? Think logically and you are fine.
The most at my US university is about 150 person lectures, well besides the sex ed class which has like 350ish.
>yfw you realize microwaves have microcontrollers in them
This thread is suddenly making me glad that my school has lecture sections of about 30 people each.
How successful are you in life?
>half the people failed
yeah, i'm calling bullshit on that
they wouldn't even do that at the most backwards school, unless the students are complete retards
where was this at?
Depends on what you want to do. 3d graphics is like 90% linear algebra. For most programming you'll probably be fine though.
I don't do things like that, I just have meetings all day mostly negotiating and consulting with clients.
Really large powerful universities are like that.
The itt tech of Hoboken NJ
University of Zurich
First year is about filtering students.
>ending a sentence with a propositional phrase
well from a scale of 0 to 10 i would say 100
let's say you want to make a photo editing program from scratch that can remove background, adjust colors and brightness and so ..etc
you will get surprised how many math theories your gonna need.
are you autistic?
You need a fundamental working knowledge of what they do. You're not in engineering to reinvent the wheel, just know how to search for other people's ideas and hope they aren't protected.
Nyaruko is the new Hitler of Grammar, or I'd say that if I didn't lose respect after that retarded tearful bed scene middle of S2
Eh, I've had worse.
We had this course where only 25% of the people passed.
Now to make it even more fun, this was the last course in the bachelor. And you have to finish all your bachelor courses before starting your master.
This course fucked over so many people, and the teacher didn't give a fuck.
This happened in a global top 100 university.
There was a season 2?
link to an official grade distribution?
my school has all theirs online.
Isn't this pretty common?
>about 200 started information systems with me
>only 17 finished got their bachelor degree
Pretty much this. As long you don't actually have to write algorithms (and then wonder why your shitty O(n^2) algo for traversing a linked list is slow) or actually do graphics stuff you'll be fine.
wait a moment, I'll look into it for this year
You have to factor in everyone who realized their degree would have been just as useful as a journalism degree and jumped ship.
inb4 you started at 7 figures
If you mean "preposition", English syntax has worked like that pretty much ever since it transitioned away from the Old English case system.
Can you please prove it with a grade distribution like I said in >>100814226
I refuse to believe myths like this
At my school (which is one of the most competitive in the world) I'll always hear people saying "OH MY GOD MY PROFESSOR FAILED HALF THEIR STUDENTS ONCE, I'M SO FUCKED", and then check out the official grade distribution, which shows only 5% Fs
People over-exaggerate way too much
In engineering at least most programs wont pass you with anything less than a C.
C- is failing...
seems like it has gotten better the last few years, but "Informatik I"
note that you have to pass all courses here to go further
At my physics course pretty much every course had a 33% failure rate for the first exam except for a few. BSc Math was higher, Physicists's Math was lower. I won't post a distribution because I'm lazy and would have to anonymize but I actually calculated it because I failed a few courses and wanted to know how many others failed
Remember for some people A- is failing.
They don't post it online at mine, but I can access them. x out of 10 European system, 6 and above is passing. This study starts with 500+ people in the first year, in the end 160 or so graduate each year. It's considered the most difficult study at my uni.
It's one of the degrees where you statistically get most payed after graduation in this country.
But people most likely drop out because they don't know that you will get raped in this degree at my University.
To elaborate, failed means failed the exam and has to retake it. You get 3 chances of doing a written exam (with am mark between 1.0 and 4.0 best->worst) and after that you can do an oral exam which is either 4.0 or fail. If you fail THAT you completely fail the course and can't take it ever again in Germany, which means you most likely will be expelled unless it's an elective or so.
No, an F is failing
Failing means you don't get credit for the course
By definition a C- and higher is NOT faililng
Anybody who tries to argue otherwise should be shot
Except you're wrong and throwing a tantrum wont make you any less wrong.
It's similiar here, I'm this guy:
First year "assessement year":
11 exams, you have to pass all. Not passed Exams can be retaken the next year. If you don't pass it then, you're are banned from that degree for 10 years in the whole country.
At maximum you are allowed to fail 6 exams.
To pass you have to get a 4, worst grade is 1, best grade is 6.
You didn't even explain why I'm wrong
Now then, how is anything I said incorrect
Holy christ that's strict. If it were like this over here I'd be expelled long ago. Then again, I'd probably study harder and not post on the internet at nearly 5AM.
>/a/ - Anime & Manga
I was right, Christina, you are perfect. You understand. Let's stand together with hands in our pockets.
>By definition a C- and higher is NOT failing in the eyes of the school.
The educational system failed a long time ago in most countries, because of the rising population in the world, the only reason it still exist after they couldn't keep fixing it is filtering, they don't care anymore about if you understand or not they only want the few of the best and getting ride of the rest.
El psy congroo
It was really sad for a friend of mine. He passed all exams but one which he failed with a 3.75 (remember, you have to get a 4 to pass).
He literally failed because of half a point and lost 2 years of his life for nothing.
Netherlands here, I'm this guy: >>100814656
Exams for courses are usually only given once per year. Then 2~ months later during the next exam period there are resits for the exams of last period. If you fail both you have the opportunity to retake them next year. The main problem of failing is that you'll get delays due to required prerequisites for projects. Most simple courses don't have entry requirements. Exams are graded on a scale from 1 to 10, where a 6 or above means you passed. Most professors just make the scale linearly to questions answered correctly on exams, with variable points available per question.
No, that's technically what a failure is.
I can personally believe that I'm god.
Does it mean I'm right?
If you believe that you failed with an A-, congrats.
But that's completely wrong, because you passed the class, and can't retake it for credit.
I am in my second year in university and still can't see the point of using credits, anyone mind to explain.
Yep, I'm the guy you quoted. Pretty similar here; I can't take Theoretical Physics 4 since I couldn't finish 3 last week (failed the first try due to a too busy schedule, got ill for second one).
To graduate, you need to amass a certain number of credits. At my school it's 120.
Say you're taking 16 credit units in your last semester of school. You have 105 units total.
You end up getting an A, B, C and an F.
Every course is 4 units, and you get 4 units for every course except the one you failed.
Thus, your total units become 105+12=117, which isn't enough to graduate.
You would be stuck taking summer courses in order to graduate your school
Great anime thread.
Don't know what crap school you go to, but at any decent university if you get a C- in a class for your major, you don't get credit for it. You may get university credit, but you don't get credit for your major, so you'll have to take it again regardless. Non-major classes are different, those you can scratch by with a D and still get credit, but only to a certain extent.
is your Physics 4 about moment of inertia and inertia matrix and so, if yes i can insure you it's really simple, not that much but with practice it get really simple.