I hear some people (especially in the last loli thread) here say rumors that "loli" is pretty much dead. Their compl/a/int is that:
>1. loli-service is pretty much removed from (late nite jap) TV
>2. lolis in manga/doujin are censored like never before...
My response to this is:
1. Could it be that anime studios are now looking for better source materials to animate? Could it be that too much showing of "service" affect their bottom line? I think studios are just reacting to market forces in Japan because prospect buyers of the franchise want wholesome entertainment without getting too "kimoi~". Also I think anime studios are now trying to get in line with Crunchyroll's taste because of the vast, VAST viewers going to that site.
2. loli manga/doujin may be a bit more censored this time but I'm sure this sub-niche won't die because there's still lots of loyal and repeat customers buying these (i'm sure it's like hard drug to these people... they'll still consume if it's a little weak). If someone like Quzilax can stir the hearts of m/a/ny with his work here and call the loli sub-niche dead, then the rumors of loli is dead have been greatly exaggerated.
It's the fucking queen of Sweden.
I'm not joking, she complained to the Japanese government about all this pedostuff and misogyny and whatnot.
Somebody needs to nuke Sweden quick.
They are ruining the world.
The same thing is being said with Giant Robots or Mecha, yet we have something like Robot Girls z parodying it.
We've have several lolis.
And if I'm not mistaken, more are coming. these are just people who don't properly research their stuff.
I dunno about you guys but i (heart) last year's loli lineup.
Queen Silvia is co-founder of World Childhood Foundation. It purpose is to help and support children around the world. I find it good that she try to help poor children but at same time it hurt lolicon...
I had read somewhere that it is legal to read or draw anime loli in Sweden so long you keep it to yourself and not spreading it around.
I just quickly googled and found this, not where I originally read about it, though:
Yeah, they tried to jail a mangaka for producing child porn, but recently the Supreme Court overthrew that. So far, the Swedish courts seem to have some sanity left, but holy shit, the social justice warriors up there keep trying and trying.
One state in Aus has already banned Loli.
>the Swedish royal house
>any political influence whatsoever
But i still laughed at the title.
I want this now to be the rise of Christmas Cakes and MILFs in anime
We need more of this
Well, it looks like you've been listening too much to LRD. You shouldn't. He may be right at some things, but he's mostly overeating.
Also, the censored thing is due to some shit that went on with a company the police closed or something. Everyone is being extra careful, not only with loli.
>Crunchyroll having any pull
How does it feel being retarded?
You should all pray that the future emperor of Japan's daughter isn't next in line if some law gets passed allowing her to. A female figurehead will surely get loli banned fast.
>international home of the turbofeminist cryptomovement
>Swedish queen sez: ban loli, injest muslim semen
>Princess assassinated for sleeping with an Arab
>rest of royal family fap to loli
BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES
>You should all pray that the future emperor of Japan's daughter isn't next in line if some law gets passed allowing her to.
Fat chance. Japan is still a really sexist country.
Ur aware they indirectly influence quite a bit of policy through NGO's and what not?
Still, shitkaku source, so you have a point.
Isn't loli banned in britland?
And by "banned" of course I mean "have a law against it that isn't enforced", because I've never heard of Brits arrested for it.
I'm surprised her pictures don't get posted on 4chan
Japan is our last bastion of hope.
Who cares if they have influence? I would laugh into the queen of Sweden's face, sure. But someone did something and at least regionally they start to fight loli in Japan.
I think that's the original source (form 2007 and not on the Japan Times english website anymore):
It's probably an EU thing.
Yeah, you're fine unless you insult a horse or "revv your engine in a racist way", then it's off to jail for you.
Pls define LRD
She's just spouting the regular old platitudes about how CP needs to be stopped. She says nothing about loli, it's just the site speculating.
>have any power whatsoever
Nope. In Sweden our general feeling towards the monarchy is something like: "oh yeah, they're nice to look at and have around, I guess. They're not really necessary though, quite a waste of money, maybe we should get rid of them."
They're basically just celebrities, so don't take any they say seriously, we don't.
It's a guy. He's called Lolis R Dead or something like that. LRD for short.
Give America a reason.
Don't worry, Crown Prince Naruhito and His son, Prince Hisahito of Akishino will lead Japan for 2 more eras.
Don't worry, Crown Prince Naruhito and Prince Fumihito's son, Prince Hisahito of Akishino will lead Japan for 2 more eras.
No, they consider loli CP. They even prosecuted people for it, like that one mangaka. The Supreme Court dismissed that only much later.
It's all about the rights of fictional underage characters.
But cartoon children != real children.
Fuck, half of the time they aren't even children, they're 1000 year old vampires.
You're too far gone, Uncle Sam. You're one of them. The only hope for a purge of Sweden lies in Russia.
THIS IS NOW A BRIT THREEAD
POST IN THIS ONLY IF YOU'RE NATION IS PART OF THE GLORIOUS ANGLO-SAXON COMMONWEALTH
IRELAND GO HOME
Normalfag and moralfag mentality. Anybody who likes something like pic related is just a ticking time bomb ready to start a child raping spree, I suppose.
>tfw you like nothing more than when quzilax when he draws stuff like the first 50 pages of loli to bokurano, but shit like 3 fat fucks or some old guy raping girls is just gross and you can't fap to it
Please stop Quzilax-sama. You are wasting your vast talents on filth.
More like we assume they are already raping and molesting children and the loli is just part of a larger CP folder they have stowed away on their computer.
Yeah, I know. It's stupid. But that doesn't faze them.
It's overpopulation and the information age. People need something to do. So they fight for social justice, either for money in NGOs or as a private crusade. That means it must get worse, what else would all the people do? They must find more and more stuff to justify the ongoing fight. Everything will be rape, everything will be CP etc. So there are more occasions to fight, there's an urgency, and there are more people to arrest, prosecute and jail, more people to therapy, more jobs secured. The more people are out there, the worse it will get.
>insult a horse
Funny enough in every case but one in which a citizen was arrested in the US for possession of lolicon they actually did have other real CP on their computer.
Aren't pedostuff and misogyny 2 separate issues?
The law was made way before anime and manga became popular in Sweden, and was made to stop stuff like slapping a Photoshop filter on real CP. As soon as that case happened, pretty much everyone realized how retarded the law was.
Unlike what would happen in, say, Murrika, both the media and the general public were protesting against it, not to mention even the chief of the police's anti-CP department himself.
And wasn't the one exception convicted under a guilty plea?
No, all misogynists are pedophiles.
>borrowed government property
>uses it like he owns it
>no concept of computer security
what a total pleb
no wonder he deserves prison
Yeah he was. I think he was just trying to get it over with as quickly as possible.
If you have real CP odds are you also have loli,
but if you have loli odds are you do not have real CP.
On one hand I find that fucking stupid. But considering the costs involved in a prolonged court battle it's almost understandable.
Oh, just one state?
I was wondering because I was over there and I found a bookstore with a bunch of manga and they had Kodomo no Jikan.
There's also the publicity he'd probably receive if perverted justice or another similar group caught wind of this guy getting the charges dropped. They would drag his name through the mud in a pretty brutal fashion and he could pretty much say goodbye to ever getting a decent job again so yeah, understandable.
I can't actually recall his name off the top of my head and most people probably don't know this case ever happened so I guess his strategy worked.
what rock are you living under now?
Crunchyroll is very influential now.
Also, the beauty of CR is they'll never take down a series because jap studios want to keep their anime there eke more cent out of it even though the show was long over.
My girlfriend is a seiyuu. I met her by talking to her on her Twitter account. I can't tell you who she is because it wouldn't be good for her career. I don't speak Japanese but she speaks English and she flew to the US to meet me. Now she wants me to live in Japan with her. I don't know how that would even work. It's all true and I'm not lying.
I'm pretty sure it's just NSW.
Fucking Australia of all places has kodomo no jikin?
Hell the US publisher dropped it after soccer moms complained.
US has more people that get pissed off at small things.
Australians have more problems with real problems like spiders the size of your hand, the natives and a horrible, horrible school system.
>There's also the publicity
Hmm yeah, that too. Fucking normalfags/moralfags would turn it into crusade.
My information may be off, but doesn't CR pay only a single fee for the anime they host? I didn't think the companies got anything else after that regardless of views.
CrunchyRoll is not influential enough to have studios pander to them. The vast majority of sales still come from otaku.
>Australians have more problems with real problems
You must be joking m8
I found it in Sydney.
It was untranslated, so they probably imported it instead of getting it through a publisher.
it was /ANN/ that pushed KnJ to drop it
The shop had all of the volumes of the manga except vol1. This happened a few times when I found something i wanted. It wasn't nice.
They had a fanbook though, so it was okay.
yeah but you get your computer confiscated and searched if you troll someone on facebook over there so there's that....
Maybe someone remembered it's illegal to possess child pornography let alone air it on television.
Maybe someone remembered it's illegal to possess child pornography let alone air it on television!
These words don't belong together.
Well that explains it.
>it was /ANN/ that pushed KnJ to drop it
look at these pedophiles trying to defend their kiddie porn
ANN is full of social justice warriors that want to save lolis from exploitation. They represent all western fans of anime and manga
>Maybe someone remembered it's illegal to possess child pornography
Not in Japan.
you keep using that word, i don't think it means what you think it means
>Zac Bertschy of Anime News Network took up arms
>Zac's long scathing OP-ED got to Seven Seas (official translator)
>At the same time Seven Seas was having hard time getting big book retailers to stock Volume 1.
>Inability to find decent retailers, Seven Seas conveniently dropped KnJ (maybe for good?)
I'm too scared to have physical copies of doujins and I'm not even into loli. I'm not taking any chances and use full disk encryption.
Good, loli is disgusting anyway. If you are aroused by juvenile bodies without any developed sexual features to speak of, you are either a gigantic faggot or a gigantic beta who can't handle the sight or idea if a grown female. Or mentally ill.
Was this the same guy who bashed nanoha in a review?
Reminds me when I bought a few loli illustration/fanbooks when I was on vacation. Pretty awkward at the register but I'm glad that I have them.
>gigantic beta who can't handle the sight or idea if a grown female
3D is disgusting including 3DPD children. I can't handle the repulsion.
I'm from Sweden and I agree with this post.
Nuke us before we're taken over by islam and no1 can watch lolis or even half naked women in sweden anymore, END US NOW GLORIOUS AMERICA!
you can have your lolis back once islam takes over
Another program attacks the firmware in hard drives manufactured by Western Digital, Seagate, Maxtor and Samsung, all of which, with the exception of latter, are American companies. Here, too, it appears the US intelligence agency is compromising the technology and products of American companies.
Good thing i use Toshiba, sasuga based Japan.
>NSA are openly hacking and creating viruses and getting away with it
For fuck sakes America stop thinking you control the world.
The Sankaku article is lying. The queen of Sweden isn't talking about lolicon, hentai or chinese cartoons. Japan has the most lenient CP laws in the developed world. Possession of CP is not a criminal offense but distribution and creation of it is. This is the most rational approach to CP in the world. But white countries can't stand this because they are caught up in the fervor of a pedo witch hunt. There's no logic to it, it's just pure emotional zealotry.
That's what it's about., Not lolicon. White countries are going to come full force on lolicon one day. It's just not happening right now because it's under their radar.
That's fine. I use dmcrypt
The fuck you're talking about, like each season each 8 of 10 anime are focused on lolishit or at least have a loli in the regular cast.
Personally, I would be glad if we moved away from the loli/pedo side for a bit.
Lets have a mid 20s older experienced girl phase for awhile.
This season has only two loli shows.
OP is proving loli is not dead and its so-called demise is greatly exaggerrated.
>2. lolis in manga/doujin are censored like never before...
The manga and doujin censorship has nothing to do with loli specifically. There was some raids and arrests so everyone is freaking out and going full overkill with the censorship. The place that got hit was one of the cowtits magazines. It's nothing to do with loli specifically, everyone is equally effected.
the moral witch hunting brigade is more of a puritan/western thing than specifically "white"
Not everyone under 21 is a loli.
I'm telling you that not everything has a loli main cast or character focused loli.
What that somewhat means that the 'loli genre'' is dying?
Islam is worse plague than 2D lolis IMO
click here to listen to some youtube faggot complain about loli
It has two shows with a major loli character. They aren't really loli shows.
do you think this will encourage artists to seek out digital distribution models?
Why do people keep posting this?
It is, the loli in Unbreakable Machine Doll had a one second pantsu flash from last season, the loli from Sekai Seifuku is hardly sexualized, and the PuPiPo! girls, forget about it.
Isn't he the same guy who whined about how waifus and /a/ were bad because it was abnormal and weird, and if you didn't want to go bang drunken sluts on weekends you were a freak?
Isn't he also an unattractive fat guy?
most mangaka go to DMM... and they have to abide to JPN laws. If you're not on DMM you're unknown
Digitally distributed hentai is typically heavily censored.
I don't even like loli,but it will never ''die'', it's like the biggest fetish amongst jap otaku, as long as there's search there will be offer.
People like to make a fuss over nothing.
>the loli from Sekai Seifuku is hardly sexualized
Do people even know how to bait anymore?
Really? I swore that they sound the same.
I'm not going to dirty myself by finding out, so I guess I'll take your word for it.
Unlikely. The digital copies of works are generally more heavily censored than their physical counterparts.
Hard to say whether this is a ploy to increase physical sales, an attempt to slight pirates or a response to the increases exposure and availability of digital copies. Regardless of why, it doesn't seem like they will attempt to push less censored copies digitally.
Having a skimpy costume is not sexualization.
>and they have to abide to JPN laws
I mean do what 2ch does to avoid the law and have it all hosted overseas
What more do you want?
Nothing really, I'm just saying loli is slowly dying.
Don't respond. The faggot thinks that every loli, regardless of setting, tone or genre, should be parading around naked for most of the show and getting high detail, close up panty shots every five seconds when they aren't.
Reasoning with them is impossible.
I didn't say that at all, loli fanservice is done for.
>should be parading around naked for most of the show and getting high detail, close up panty shots every five seconds when they aren't.
I not saying that should absolutely happen
I'm just saying it would be nice if it did.
For as long as there have been people that enjoy things, there have been other people that like to tell them the things they enjoy are dying. LolisRFine.
There are specific genres for that, ecchi and hentai.
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
theres not much animated hentai for loli for some reason
and even less that are good.
That's exactly what you are saying though, even if you're too stupid to realize it.
When you complain about 'death of fanservice' using those shows you are asserting that there is supposed to be fanservice in those shows that is missing.
Hentai is niche. Loli is niche. Good quality is niche.
Good quality loli hentai is a niche in a niche in a niche.
It's not surprising that there's pretty much none.
boku no pico, pico to chico, pico x chico x coco
were gay shota animated which is just as niche if not more and it was a fairly good quality job
so what gives?
>even less that is good
this implies that good ones exist, and if you could point me towards them that would be great
BnP and co. was the once in a lifetime product of the stars aligning. Good staff, good material, good studio.
Maybe one day loli will experience the same good luck though it's seriously unlikely with that Tatsumi faggot killing all the adaptions.
I've been hearing BnP and all that on the internets for 7 years and mostly ignored it.
Is it a good watch if I decide to finally download it?
>Is it a good watch if I decide to finally download it?
if you consider yourself mostly straight now be warned it may turn you gay
You haven't watched it in all this time yet? Get to work, anon.
It's one of the most high quality hentai OVAs ever produced. For that reason alone it's worth a watch.
If you happen to like shota then it's even better. And if you don't, you probably will by the end of it.
I just wish it was straight shota
I guess there's always brandish
>this implies that good ones exist, and if you could point me towards them that would be great
Suki de Suki de, Suki de The Animation
loli done in the type of style of mizugi kanoko
it was doing fine until the whole turns into man and turns the tables on her thing happened
then it sucked
The Suki de adaption was shit.
Slobbering and sameface everywhere. Tits on all the lolis. Disgusting faggots in the place of Okada Kou's manly onii-chans.
You might like that shit but by no measure of quality is it good.
Man it was so way back, I think in 2007, but I remember reading TIME Magazine coverage about BnP and they even covered the people who watched it in private screening
didn't read the source materiel but I thought it was pretty good.
>Posting that fag who did it purposely for views
At least post something entertaining, even if it is cringe worthy.
You sound like a niche H connoisseur.
How would you rate Hitoriga The Animation? I read the tankobon though.
not the guy you are responding to but the 1st and 2nd episodes sucked and downplayed the hypnotism aspect of it I could overlook making the girl look older if the mind control stuff was good. episode 3 and 4 were pretty good even if they strayed pretty far from the manga since they did fulfill my mind control fetish.
the loli fellatio cult thing wasn't animated at all though.
My understanding is that it's not banned anywhere in Australia but there was one court ruling in NSW which (I believe) charged a man for possession of cartoon pornography which depicted Lisa Simpson. This was able to happen because the law was vague enough that the Supreme Court could consider a cartoon to be a "person" within the meaning of the relevant state and Commonwealth laws.
So while it's not against any particular statute to possess cartoon pornography, that case could be used as a precedent for future cases because we have statute law and common law. Statute is the legislation passed by government, common is the reading / precedents decided by the courts.
Because the Supreme court is the highest in New South Wales I believe all lower courts in NSW would be bound to follow that precedent and other courts in Australia have the option to use that ruling as extra weight when making their own decisions (but they aren't bound to do so).
quality wise... is hitoriga anywhere near BnP?
i usually stay far away from H because shit quality i've encountered
btw, did BnP have fujoshi fanbase?
>quality wise... is hitoriga anywhere near BnP?
no where near
Just dump the loli, you assclowns.
It may also be worth noting that
>The man was convicted and fined $3,000 and placed on a good behaviour bond.
>could consider a cartoon to be a "person" within the meaning of the relevant state and Commonwealth laws.
I wonder if anyone ever tried marrying their waifu using that technicality.
Something like http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9r8w3_needless-ed_shortfilms, I guess.
I think I left out animation quality...
so you're saying it's no good?
>queen of Sweden
>being able to talk at all
Fuck off. Only very bored Germans and 90+ grannies care about our royal family.
Hitoriga was okay. Quality wasn't amazing but it never is. As usual the tits were bumped up a few sizes which isn't great. Other than that it was a pretty good adaption.
Likely the only reason it was allowed in that context is socially-acceptable sexuality discrimination.
You take laws too seriously. They were going to hang this guy whether there was a possible vague interpretation some sophist could concoct to use against him or not.
did the studio anticipate Hitoriga would be licensed to America or something?
WHO invented the internet?
right, that's what I thought
>bad because it's abnormal and weird
I'm going to wipe it's entire bloodline out singlehandedly starting from ancient times.
You should be ashamed to BUY that type of manga. Think of the children! Think of the trees! Think of the shotas, they need love too!