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The other thread was removed, probably because of OP advertising his own torrent, but let's have a Spice & Wolf thread. LNs, manga, anime, anything related to S&W here!

Interested in buying the LNs? Want to know where to pick up after watching the anime? Just ask!
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Or not. What happened with the activity in the other thread? ;_;
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Do the LN's talk about korbo's past in more detail?
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Just finished vol 6 and I have to ask, what was the trick behind the copper chests? I mean my thought is you stick something flat in there and it makes it look like there's more coins or something but that isn't complicated enough for it to fool anyone the moment they open the box
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>>100783171
yes, there is more dialogue and introspection for both lawrence and holo. the story is told in third person for both lawrence and holo. the books also go way past the anime and are already over.
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Is it safe to skip the first few volumes or should I be reading from the start? I finished watching it recently so it's still fresh in my mind and it's making the reading kind of boring from the start.
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>just finished season 2 of the anime and found out there won't be a season 3
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>>100784154
They explain later; keep reading.
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>>100784154
Placements of coins. They should explain it later
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>>100785946
>>100785842
Ah, I see, I just felt that since the next volume was sidestories they might just not mention it by the time we get back to the gang in 8
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>>100785597
It's safe to skip the first few volumes, however s1 and s2 covers book 1, 2 - 3, 5 so you might want to read novel 4.

That said, there are some differences between the books and the anime, so it might be worth it reading all of them anyway. Chloe doesn't exist in the light novels for instance.
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>>100786153
I'll read them all then. Thanks.
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I watched the dub and I liked it.

And you couldn't stop me.
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It'll be fucking years before they catch up with the novels. They do like what, 1-2 a year? It'll be at least 2017 before the English novels are done. Baka-Tsuki would already have been done years ago if they hadn't licensed it.
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>>100788393
Dub is not bad, Holo's voice is good but imo it lacks something that the original japanese voice has.
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>>100790790
I think John Michael Tatum did an excellent job as Lawrence as well.
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>>100790790
Having seen only one or two episodes of the dub, I think it's the playfulness, she certainly gets the Wise Wolf Holo voice down, but whenever she teases Lawrence it just feels off compared to the subs, not as coy
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Holo is the definition of a drama queen.
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>>100791535
Are you kidding? Dub Lawrence is way better than sub Lawrence, unlike Jun, Tatum is actually able to put emotion into Lawrence's voice instead of just speaking louder or softer.
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>>100792489
When did I bring up Lawrence, Lawrence sounded fine, it's Holo I had an issue with. I heard emotion in Jun's voice just fine by the by, you must have missed it
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>>100792604
All I heard was Ledouche.
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>>100792489
Tatum's the saving grace of like half the dubbed stuff I've watched.
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>>100792726
>Not watching Code Geass dubbed
I feel sorry for you
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>>100792878
I saw it subbed and dubbed.
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>>100792604
Jun didn't have as much range as Tatum, and he played the role a touch more abrasively. They end up subtly different.

>>100790790
Palencia did a good job with Holo, she came across as older and wiser, just a bit stilted (though Amisuke's version of Holo was a bit stilted too in places).

I can understand liking Ami's version a bit more, though. I'd love to have a performance more like Tatum's to match Ami's.
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I just got volume 3 in the mail like 15 minutes ago!
But if you really enjoyed the series I would definitely recommend reading the books.
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>>100794145
Nice anon, myself I got all the volumes this week as well. Got 1 & 10 today, 2-9 this tuesday.
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>>100794593
Neat, I'm just buying them as I read them. There are only 10 volumes so far that are published in english right?
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>>100795004
Yeah, volume 11 is coming out in 90 days or something like that.
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In retrospective the only good books were volumes 1-5. Pretty much what was covered by the TV series. The rest went full retard. Another Wasted potential the series.
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>>100795428
Can't speak for the rest since I haven't read them, but 6 was quite good
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>>100795428
10 and 14-16 were fine, too (and 13 was a decent side stories volume). Not perfect, but they live up to the first 5 at least.
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>>100795428
What wouldn't "waste potential"?
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>>100794593
I really wish I didn't have volume 1's softcore porn cover. I should pick up 2 soon
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>>100796032
Softcore porn?
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>>100796080
The American one
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>>100796136
You mean this one or what?
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>>100796230
yeah that one, looks like something from the romance section of wal-mart
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looking a horo figure
100$ budget

any links?
no chibi tho.
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>>100795004
Here's a pic of my S&W collection
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>>100796397
>Holo figure
>$100 budget
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>>100795532
Wait, so 6-9 were terrible?
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Wait, so 6-9 were terrible?

>>100780638
What WAS that torrent? Suddenly I'm interested.
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>>100795947
Skipping books 6 through 15 and completely rewriting books 16 and 17. Actually show us the Yoitsu forest, as that was the fucking point since the beginning, skip the stupid stuff with mercenaries. Make Lawrence into an adult he is, not 15 y/o kid. Make their relationship advance further faster. Seriously, reading about holding hands got old and cringeworthy quickly. Or at least bring back the tease, which, if I remember correctly, got lost somewhere along the way. Something like that.
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>>100796606
It was just a reupload of the drunken wolf fan translations of the 17 novels.
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>>100796589
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>>100796397
>100 dollar budget

I hope you like bootlegs
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>>100796032
I thought the 3dpd cover was just a dust cover on top of the real cover? On that note, the books cost pretty much nothing anyway, so you could just buy it again for like 7 euro or something.
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>>100796776
They are now, but they used to be the actual cover
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>>100796747
Nice
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>>100796589
I, uh.. what am I even looking at?
>>100796829
Oh, that sucks then. Again though, could just buy it again.
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>>100796939
Angry Otaku's with combat training and guns
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>>100797017
This
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>>100796939
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>>100796776
>you could just buy it again for like 7 euro or something.

From where?
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>>100797404
Wrong image
Meant this one
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>>100796939
Spice & Wolf -> S&W ->Smith & Wesson
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>>100796751
i don't actually... mind that is
only ones i found were unpaited resen kits.
and one painted one for 70$ and its disgustingly ugly
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>>100797535
Where can I buy Horo in a mug?
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>>100797463
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Spice-Wolf%3A-Novel-v-1-Isuna-Hasekura/9780759531048
Is where I bought mine, I know it's the 3dpd cover on the website but you get the original anyway. Not sure what the price in euro is, since it says 70 SEK for me as I live in Sweden, but 70 SEK should be maybe 7-8 euro. They have free delivery worldwide too unless you live in some mega third world country.
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>>100797572
The same place the BDs for Season 3 can be bough.
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>>100797535
>Facebook

Come on, it's not that hard to rename the file to prevent people from writing >Facebook.
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>>100797619
>Not just walking into a bookstore and buying them
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>>100797702
That reqires going outside.
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>>100797702
>go into a book store
>sold out

They're cheaper online most of the time anyway
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>>100797702
This, seriously.

Most major bookstores carry it, and after you add in shipping usually the price is about the same.

>b-but people will see me buying manga!
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>>100797619
Yeah, it's 8 euros. It's so cheap, my Jew senses are tingling!
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ok 150$ is max i can do
for a figure

most 300+ 400+ 500+
>:(
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>>100797702
It's more expensive that way. I bought book 3 and 6 in a bookstore in Stockholm, costed me 120 SEK per book, meanwhile when I bought the rest online they were around 70~ SEK per book.

So why should I?

the cashier girl flirted with me though which was nice but fuck real women
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>>100797702
>bookstore

But they only sell things like Death Note and Vampire Knight there. Bought them anyway.
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>>100797702
Oh, I'd love to live in a country where the english books weren't marked up by 70%.
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>>100797832
Not if you go when they have a sale, I went during Christmas time and bought volumes 6-10 for about 40$
>>100797885
>Not having entire stores that sell only manga and anime stuff
Son I feel sorry for you
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>>100797954
They're not exactly on sale often though, if at all which they really never are, and even if they were it'd still be more expensive than buying them online.

And I'd have to go outside.

So... again, why?
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>>100797954
>Son I feel sorry for you

Me too. At least animu fans and merch increase in numbers every year. If we keep up this pace we might be like Finland in in a few years, with K-ON being sold even in little kiosks.
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>>100798205
>If we keep up this pace we might be like Finland in in a few years, with K-ON being sold even in little kiosks.
You... wait, what? Seriously?
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I have to say that I'm preferring the manga to the LN.

The reason I enjoyed the anime so much was the character interaction. To me, the narrative value of the series is almost nil, but the dynamic between Holo and Lawrence is just so outstanding, and it's a shame that it just doesn't show quite so well in a narrative driven medium like a Light Novel.
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>>100798303
Yeah. I remember last year I went to Helsinki and they were selling Naruto, Tokyo Mew Mew and such even in the train station. The problem is that they translate a lot of manga, I'd rather read them in English.
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>>100798494
I haven't bothered with the manga yet, heard that it's supposed to be the worst out of the three.

I might still end up buying it though eventually as I want to support S&W as much as I can.
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>>100797832
4, 6, 8 were sold out when I went to buy them.
Naturally, I did the logical thing and bought books 3, 5, 7, 9. Stupid even numbers, who needs 'em...
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>>100798939
Waitwaitwait. So apparently either A: The bookstore thought it was a good idea to not stock an equal number of each book, or B: Some OTHER customer only bought books 4, 6, and 8.
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>>100799050
Bookstores rarely stock the same amount of each book, they usually have it skewed to have more of the first and last in a series from my experience
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>>100799050
I fucking hate it when a random single volume disappears from the store. It's like, why? Is there some manga-hater who does it on purpose?
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Did anyone actually try the visual novels for DS by the way?
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>>100799403
No, but I have the soundtrack (which I can't songs of because YouTube doesn't have any).

Straight out of Dark Cloud 2.
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>>100799403
I tried one. It was a kinda confusing trading sim. I don't think there is any way to beat it if you don't speak moon.
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>>100799522
And Chrono Cross, too.
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>>100799403
I saw pictures of the second. It looked like harem shit. every copy should be burned
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I tried watching Spice and Wolf a year ago, but I just couldn't do it. A mix of too much text, information and tiredness.

Then I tried the first LN, I loved it. Already bought volume 2, 3 and 4. I also watched the first half of the first season, and I found it much more interesting to watch now.

Can someone tell me what LNs the 2nd half of the 1st season covers? I'd like to read them first. Volume 2 seems bigger than the rest, so if I had to guess I'd say the rest of the season only covers the 2nd volume, but I'd like to be sure.
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>>100799962
Season 1 is volumes 1 and 2, season 2 is volumes 3 and 5
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Volume 1
holo turning into a wolf and almost leaving

damn you feels
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>>100796434
Forgot to mention I got this from rightstuf in the dollar blind box.
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>>100780638
OP of those threads you're talking about

I never advertised any torrent, I never advertised DWT's fan translations, only when people ask did I tell them where to find it

I don't make the threads every day, plenty of people said not to ruin a good thing by having it all the time

at least I'd make the threads every other day, at most maybe 4 days

They're popular because spice and wolf is a great story

the activity died in the other thread probably because it had been 6 hours since I made it, and it fostered well over 350 posts with a plethora of pictures and things behind it as well
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>>100798494
I prefer the manga too

I think its because since the LN obviously has little pictures, my mind becomes picture hungry to the extreme, the book describes their feels but I can't see their faces when they make them

I'm a very visual person, I'd rather read the manga or watch an anime than read the book, but the book was still amazing
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>>100802065
Well there's your problem, you can't visualize, when I read a book I often see the facial expressions just fine so long as it's adequately describing how the mood of the conversation is. If it isn't obvious I prefer the LNs
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>>100802170
I do visualize, I just strongly prefer having the visuals there too

sometimes its hard for me to just picture scenes, I can visualize just not well enough

also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8nhlBv_GjY
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>>100802242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkXwFw9hdUo

Such good music.
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>>100802065
>I think its because since the LN obviously has little pictures, my mind becomes picture hungry to the extreme, the book describes their feels but I can't see their faces when they make them

are you so devoid of creativity or imagination that you can't recreate a scene in your head using text from the novel? there's SO much left out by the manga and anime. not just inner monologues/thoughts but subtleties in interactions and scenes that are described by the author with so much detail that they automatically become lost in the adaptions
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>>100802346
I'm a chemistry and mathematics graduate student, yes its very hard for me to be creative

I can "see" their faces but I can't "see" their feelings even if it tells me blatantly

I loved the book, it was a real adventure, I made an emotional connection just not a "metaphysical" one if that makes sense
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>>100802460
mathematics requires a fair bit of imagination and inner visualization. what you lack is empathy if you cannot judge players moods/emotions based on the context of a written dialogue
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>>100801456
Hey, I did too, a few months ago. Unfortunately, volume 4 was already sold out before it even arrived.

And not even the prospect of a boxset on the horizon.
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where can i get a good copy of the ost "torrent" with a cover for itunes? any help would be much obliged
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>>100802346
What is it when you can live and feel through their emotions and acts, but fail to visualise them?
My imagination keeps clinging to scenes from the manga and the few picture in the LN.
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>>100802660
Google it, m8.
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>>100802603
>mathematics requires a fair bit of imagination and inner visualization.
Well, not entirely, what mathematics requires is understanding through inferences of logic

this is kinda synonymous with creativity, to infer a logical pattern, algorithm or process is effectively creativity to create the next step, but we're not really creating the next step, we're inferring it

I understand holo ALOT like no kidding I get her inside and out, I feel their emotion, I feel their actions, I get that so deep down, I'd write you an essay on how much holo is, what shes worth and how deep she really is

what my problem is is physically illustrating scenes in my mind or creating a link through visuals, I feel like I'm very well acquainted with lawrence and holo inside out and every which way, but to put a picture on it is difficult for me, its a physical picture I lack, not an emotional or empathetic one
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anyplace where I can read them online/download .pdf/not pay for them.

Also how many volumes have been translated?
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>>100803379
All the volumes have been translated via Fan Translation

Google Drunken Wolf Translations and you'll find what you're looking for
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>>100803379
All 17 are translated, 6 and on were decently fan translated and available in PDF and ebook formats. Download them from the Internet.
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>>100801947
No man, you're probably not the one I'm talking about. There was a thread earlier today with the OP simply linking a torrent with the DWT translations that he just had made. I know what threads you're talking about, I'm a regular in them. This wasn't one of them.
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Finally got my hands on the first five volumes. It's a good day.
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>>100780638
>Want to know where to pick up after watching the anime?
Basically.
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>>100803517
>>100803449

much thanks to you both
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>>100802946
Like Holo is fairly complex, I'm not going full autism mode to say she has the "epic deep ultra EVA deepness" or what ever, but she has her own depth as if she emulates a real person which is what makes her so attractive to readers is because she acts so human as opposed to other animes, mangas, LN's what have you.

>>100803538
Oh thats good then, I actually took offense for a few moments

I should at least put on a common tripcode to differentiate myself
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S3 confirmed in the next five years
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>>100803571
Anime ends where novel 5 ends, so 6 would be a start, however the anime skips novel 4 so you might want to read that. Personally I would recommend you to read them all though as the anime and the novels differs quite a lot.

I'm the guy that finally got all 10 books delivered today, just read the first chapter of the first book and my god they're really covering the conversations between Lawrence and Holo brilliantly. It really was a treat to read.
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>>100803736
link nigga
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>>100803937
Noted, I've got some time so I might as well start from the beginning. I assume you're talking about the LN's, not the manga, right?
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>>100803991
>>100802869
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>>100804003
Yeah, I haven't even read the manga myself.
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>>100803571
Don't skip 4. Characters and ideas from it are referenced in 14.
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OP here, I'm off to bed anyways. Good night fellow anons with superior taste!
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That's is it, I'll buy the LNs. About time I start reading something else than Terry Pratchett.

>>100804410
Good night!
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>>100803678
Picking up where I left off... Holo is a sort of character where her feelings are just more than "I feel sad" or other simple nuances. Her emotions stem from a long lasting reason where she was effectively lonely, chasing and playing with a friend far from home. She followed and adventured with her friend until he died. Since then she lived among the wheat, lonely, cold not from the whether but from an empty spot in herself. For hundreds of years she lived to the people for which she grew wheat. But over time she became ousted by rapidly spreading christianity and a town whose elders had passed on and Holo's legend slowly faded from time, she had forgotten where her home was but remembered its name. It wasn't until she met lawrence did she finally find a belonging. Even in the beginning she didn't want to be left alone and any people in town on their first plight would be her first interaction with people in centuries.

All that loneliness suddenly lifted, even if they were strangers. She slowly clings to lawrence because he was the only name she really knew for the time being, that void was still a void, not even the wisewolf would be able to expect what comes in the future. Their casual contract to repay lawrence for exchange a guide to the north seemed rather simple but with other reasons. Holo didn't want to get attached to anyone she had a life outside the circle that involved all those she cherished in Yoitsu. In general, she had a positive outlook being able to go back.
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>>100802460
what >>100802603 says is true. I'm a pure math grad student. I felt so many feels reading the LNs
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Just saw this
http://www.amazon.com/Spice-Wolf-Complete-Series-Blu ray/dp/B00HXEWFWM/ref=pd_sim_sbs_mov_3
Anyone know anything about this version?
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>>100805337
see
>>100802946
where I explain myself
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>>100805588
I get that, but how'd you manage to get through organic chem having all of that trouble visualizing? Or do you need visuals for feels?
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>>100805935
3d models, legos, kinex, drawings
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>>100804662
It slowly comes to the point that Lawrence and Holo bond, they spend nights and days together and they become more and more informed about one anothers tastes interests and peeves.

What you'll find early on (not really apparent from the anime) is that holo wishes not to bond too much, she wants to have a mutual agreement that one day they'll just say good bye and it'll all be on happy grounds. Suffice it to say from a readers point of view, thats dismal and otherwise ridiculous, how could a possible 'deal' ever work out.

Holo is not easily impressed but easily humbled albeit she makes preposterous demands usually ending in a price tag all on lawrence's behalf. She often struts her pride as a wisewolf and the expertise all things. She'll show this superiority through vague and obfuscating metaphor like puzzles for lawrence to juggle often leading in his demise. She doesn't like to solve lawrence's economics puzzles or even participate in conversations involving economics, and yet she dislikes being left out or her opinion not being heard. Despite this, Holo shoos off economics related topics with arrogance as if they were petty and childish compared to her wits and wisdom even though she knows little about them. Holo uses masquerades like these to more or less hide her true feelings even though she becomes more and more into lawrence with every passing day.

Lawrence however grows tired of traps and games, he soon began using subtle sarcasm and smugness to avoid conflicts he hated enduring. Holo can't or has a hard time detecting sarcasm in this way, Lawrence doesn't even give her ammo and often times he just plays dumb and simply pretends not to understand what shes saying.
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>>100805363
it's a cheaper reissue and more space saving if you need it
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>>100806891
Oh ok, I thought maybe there would be some extra features or something.
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>>100806602
Your interpretation of Lawrence is very interesting, and I don't see it that way at all. Aside from the bizarre volumes 8 and 9, where he's basically another character entirely, he spends most of the series after volume 5 trying to figure out what his role is in a relationship with Holo, which is increasingly confused because she can't spit her feelings out.

He really DOESN'T know what she's going on about most of the time, and gets upset when she doesn't help him figure it out, precisely because it feels like she's both trying to be in a relationship and not be in one at the same time.

I think a lot of people can immediately identify with Holo, but can't figure Lawrence out at all. Part of this is because the author himself doesn't have a handle on Lawrence in several volumes, but it's also because people idealize Holo just like Lawrence does. Hell, I rarely meet someone who got the subtext in volume 3, they usually just take Lawrence's self-deprecative view of himself at face value.
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>>100806602
Holo falls for this simple sarcasm and becomes angry at how dumb lawrence is pretending to be, this gives lawrence the perfect opportunity to turn the tables and effectively call her a fool for taking such sarcasm so seriously. Eventually Holo becomes angry to the point she throws on a mischievous smile and either toys with lawrence relentlessly through humility and disdain or simply stops talking to lawrence entirely and plays with Cole and vents to him or something of the sort. Lawrence knows this anger whenever he sees it and can't really do much but attempt to quell her or wait until shes not upset anymore.

These metaphorical traps and games she plays with her wise words is really an attempt to cover her true thoughts and emotions for lawrence. She tries so hard to remember that she doesn't want to face the hardship of death purely because she outlives anything living by leagues at a time. She also hates to feel lonely, Lawrence is all she has for the most part, she hasn't cared for anyone or anything in centuries and shes hungry to fill the void stabbing her soul at every step she takes, and yet, every step she takes she falls more deeply in love with him. Two infinitely pulling forces in opposite directions with holo tied at the middle and yet both directions lead to the same place. Holo knows that if she cuts off her love early when they hit yoitsu that she'll be lonely and sad again because losing lawrence at any time during this quest is no different than him dying outright. And yet she yearns to feel love that she never had before. She has a deep existential crisis she has a hard time coping with, everything she has ever known slowly dies before her.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JaWgayhYeY
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>>100807513
Manga Horo > LN Horo > Anime Horo
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>>100807181
It isn't until her and Lawrence explore the Winfield Kingdom across the ocean to learn of the region and its people. Holo truly doesn't understand what Lawrence is or how the world rotates beneath her until the Shepard deity tells his story to Holo that he at one time had lost everyone to the same demon that destroyed Holo's home and the Shepard had suffered far longer than Holo did. Holo learns the final moral lesson that she can't do anything about Lawrence dying, she can't do anything about Yoitsu or anything, she can only press forward. However it still conflicts inside her even after speaking with the Shepard, she still doesn't know how to convey the feelings she feels to lawrence outright, not because she doesn't love lawrence but because she doesn't know how to manage them in herself to accept the fact that Time is a terrible way to die, its a disease, a curse, a bane.

This festers and boils inside Holo for about another week until in volume 14 when She finally comes clean that she loves Lawrence very very much, she completely disregards her wisewolf speech and metaphors to blatantly tell Lawrence what Lawrence was begging inside himself to hear since he confessed his love to her way back in Book 5, in the same town no less.

she held these masquerade feeling so long, she didn't want to be hurt and yet she didn't want to be lonely, she didn't want to fall in love and yet she did love him, pressure finally boiled over and she accepted it for what it was
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>>100807999
manga korbo's boobs are too big. but dat peddler is god tier. i can't tell you how badly i want to touch dem abs
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>>100808099
Holo's overall personality doesn't change much, but her outlook and understanding on life changes a great deal. Holo's attitude on things is still largely the same, she likes to toy with Lawrence's mind with the same classical traps except she doesn't use them to hide behind any realization anymore, just pure entertainment. She still pouts and whimpers when she wants to be pampered, she holds an evil smile when shes angry at lawrence, she plays coy and cute when she wants attention and she stares at lawrence like the beautiful stars of the sky when she shows her love. Her quest in Spice and Wolf wasn't to get back to Yoitsu, it largely never was, it was just a ploy to go back to times she can't relive and to nostalgia at memories. She wanted to be apart of something that was more than just a traveling entourage across the country. Through ups and downs, time and time again she wanted her pain to disapear and the cure was Lawrence and his casual journey across the land, there was no destination, the journey IS the destination

And that is how the famous legend of Holo and Lawrence would be told.
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>>100807999
I like LN Holo more, the human structure is just more human
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>>100808703
and she's flatchest masterrace
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>>100807012
Yea, Lawrence doesn't really understand Holo at all when she plays her games and stuff, he eventually just gives up because hes sick of being clueless and he'd rather not listen than be clueless, anyone would be

what happened in 8 and 9? I can't remember entirely, like I know the story front to back just not where what part of the story is in particular book numbers
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>>100808802
I don't really look at it as a regards to her boobs at all really.

I look at it as a way because I think her personality resonates well with that kind of face, theres so much going on on her face, even in that picture I posted theres just this plethora of humanism and emotions like shes a real person

the author captured her personality well and consistently at that, he knew how to make a character well
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really? I think she looks high in half of them.
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>>100808996
I just don't think you're feeling me anon
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>>100809027
She looks weird in this one.
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I guess that drawing was a little crude
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>>100809240
but anon

shes already preggo in that scene
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>>100809316
doesn't mean she can't still fuck him
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>>100809396
yea I mean that totally wouldn't cause a miscarriage or something
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>>100808837
>he eventually just gives up because hes sick of being clueless and he'd rather not listen than be clueless
In fact I can't remember him giving up unless he wanted to let her win or she was too angry to listen to him. He's sick of not knowing what she means, yes, but he still tries to figure it out. It's just that Holo doesn't casually flirt with him as much, and they enter the realm of relationship bickering instead.

8 and 9 was that bizarre story in Kerube before they go to Winfield Kingdom, where Lawrence turns into some strange panicky idiot who forgets all that he's gone through with Holo and saves Eve for no real motivation besides "well, he's a Gary Stu".
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>>100809482
Actually it won't if it's gentle and she's not too far along. http://www.babycentre.co.uk/x536429/is-it-safe-to-have-sex-during-pregnancy
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>>100809482
She can fuck him with a strap-on bro.
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>>100809566
What I meant by "giving up" is that playing dumb thing I described in >>100807181 Where lawrence pretends to not know right off the bat because he knows he wouldn't be able to understand right away anyway, he waits for her usual response and it goes from there

And yea, that shit in Gerube, that entire story arch could have been done better, Holo wasn't involved very much in the proceedings and when Eve got caught there really wasn't any purpose for lawrence other than to be a messenger boy, why lawrence wasted his time was ridiculous he wasn't making anything from it at all
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>>100809590
If I remember right

This is the part or near it where she gets morning sickness, the book describes how she got sick and couldn't keep anything down besides bread and water, she sits in the hotsprings a lot to help curb the sickness. This implies that Holo is a few weeks along in pregnancy at least to as long as 5 weeks into pregnancy, Lawrence makes some crude jokes about her being fat
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>>100809906
see >>100809734
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>>100809772
Do you have a concrete example of this? I don't remember him playing dumb that much until maybe volume 14 at the earliest. What he DOES do is begin to hide his feelings from her, partly because he's ashamed of her always poking fun at him for them, and partly because he's worried she's going to leave him (for whatever reason that happens to be at the time).
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>>100809951
>>100809734
No! Absolutely fucking not this is ridiculous I shouldn't have to work under these conditions this is bad wrong and lewd I'm not having any part of it, this is stupid, you're stupid
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>>100810027
As far as I'm concerned, that baby came from strap-on sex.
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>>100809987
I make it sound generalized, he doesn't start this tidbit until later in the book where she tries to ruse him casually like in 14, but I think his earliest foul play is around 10 where Holo makes a faux paw reference to Lawrence about the economic situation revolving around the bones that lawrence actually saw it coming but didn't know why she was saying it so he played dumb to see if she'd tell him outright, he doesn't like not knowing what she means
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>>100809906
He doesn't know what llness she has, but he doesn't joke about it from what I remember. IIRC he thought she had grown taller and fatter over time, but figured he was just seeing things.
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>>100810237
I thought the she had gotten a little taller and fatter was the first joke he had made, I think he makes this joke twice. Of course he doesn't know she has morning sickness just that she was sick and he didn't put all the pieces together until the last like paragraph of the epilogue anyway, THEN the reader knows why Holo was sick, she was pregnant and as a precursor she had gotten sick from something which was morning sickness caused by the pregnancy

Also

the second time he makes a fat joke is just as they're standing outside their new inn

and I quote

Seeing that wolf-like look on her face was increasingly rare, so rather than being unnerved by it,
Lawrence felt it made her look even more beautiful.
“You seem happy to be fatter these days.”

His evil reply earned his foot a fierce stomping fit for him to yelp in pain.
“Fool!”
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>>100810212
I don't remember that instance at all. I do remember him hiding his feelings from her, but that was because he was ashamed of himself for not being capable of solving the problem for her, but being too scared to tell her so because he didn't want to risk her finding someone who could. I take it that's not the part you're talking about.
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>>100810448
and the first time

He walked into the living room and saw the chestnuts Holo had been shelling. Her face was still
the same as always; she looked a bit taller (and maybe even fatter), but he swore that was just
his imagination. In truth the only thing that had probably changed about her was the amount of
space he occupied in her heart.


I interpreted this as casual sarcasm, this is the first time he meets holo in this book, early on as usual

but in other regards I don't think she was pregnant here yet, however the book doesn't really describe when they had copulated and I don't really expect it to, but its kind of out of place, which is why I sort of think she was pregnant before the book started. I think this because in the end Holo said "you seem not to be confused as to why I wanted everyone to come here" when she reveals that shes pregnant, which means this big party was planned and was implied before the book began which is why I think she was pregnant
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>>100810448
Ah, then you're right. But at least he got what he deserved right away when he made the actual joke.
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>>100810647
Yes, her behavior in that story seems to imply that she was, for the entire story. Kinda sad that she kept it from him, though, so I can't really fault him. Especially since it obviously took them five years to conceive, and by then he might have given up hope.
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>>100810570
No, not particularly, I might be thinking of another time, I know lawrence still wants to find out what she means, he just doesn't like the rigmarole he has to go through to learn it, rarely does holo tell him blatantly. I don't want to come off like an idiot, but I seriously don't want to go through the place I'm thinking of in the books, its really long and tedious, not that I'm lazy. I hope you know what I mean that lawrence does in fact want to know what shes talking about but hates the process right?
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>>100810782
I feel the opposite

I thought he wanted to keep it a secret until they opened their new inn and everyone had come for the party, like a really big happy ending, Lawrence was very happy in the end, I don't think its sad that she kept it from him for a few weeks, not that she could notice the first few weeks if she was anyway. Maybe they hadn't had a plan to conceive until their inn was built and ready to open

I wish I knew what they did in those 5 years, like christ that bothers me, I don't mind time gaps but the situation makes me wonder, what did they do in the time? The implication at the end of book 16 was that they would start another contract, hint hint wink wink, it was totally indirectly implied that Lawrence would propose to Holo and by this they would easily be already married, so they had been married for 5 years and then what? what happened in those 5 years? did they travel the world or settle down temporarily or what?

Literally no contextual clues of what they were doing, not even in book 17's intermission had they given ANY clues what so ever to it they only talked about what had changed with all the side characters (albeit I don't expect them to talk about holo and lawrence in a part designed for side characters) but no hints or clues what so ever! not even obscure indirect inferences can be drawn
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>>100810787
Yes, I do think I know where you're coming from. I just don't think I agree that it's as general as you stated, that's all. It's not like Holo didn't also do some.. questionable things, at best.

More to the point, I think that in v10 Huskins was simply a manifestation of all of her fears, and she suffered a character breakdown facing them all at once. She wasn't powerful anymore, she couldn't even do what Huskins had done. She needed to rely on humans just like Huskins now, if she wanted to find a new home. And of course, that made her worry that Lawrence might not stay with her having seen the creature that truly hid behind the masks she wore.
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>>100811204
I completely agree. We need volume 16.5 to make up for Isuna's fuckery.
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>>100811379
The only thing that can get close to a 16.5 is Harvest I and II which I detest because I dislike Holo Hentai, but I think it at least tries to tell a story there, even if the author of those comics didn't do a very good job capturing Holo's character
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>>100811443
That was the only good Spice and Wolf hentai. I wouldn't call it Holo hentai because it showed more Lawrence than any other damn doujin.
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>>100811443
>>100811509
There are also a couple of fanfics that aren't half bad.
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>>100811204
I don't know.. she hid it until she was a 3 or 4 months into the pregnancy.. although maybe she just had an early bulge because she had a litter, and not just one pup. It's not sad in a melodramatic sense, but in a "really, after 5 years of trying you're going to play games with him?" kind of way.
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>>100811560
DWT had some neat ones but the long ass one that talks about their daughter isn't that great
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What the fuck is this horseshit?

I but the fucking LNs on amazon and get this garbage.

Why did the switch the covers from 2D to 3DPD?
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>>100811783
take off the slip covers
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>>100811783
>those cheap-as-shit fake ears and tail

Can't stop laughing
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>>100811675
she had morning sickness, which is evidence of being only a few weeks pregnant, 3 to 4 months is actually quite extreme, lawrence wouldn't be that dumb to call her far in that regard

book 17 describes that on a certain holiday they would gather and have their big grand party, I believe it also says that this particular holiday is in early spring and that spring was rapidly approaching which tells me that it couldn't have been more than 5 or 6 weeks at most to go from the near end of winter into spring, regardless of the snow they're living in nyohira which is a far northern town, places like Lenos and Sovereign were snowed in a majority of the year especially when Holo describes yoitsu as a land of silver, implying snow, and since the beginning of 17 describes that nyohira (along with the map) is very much close to yoitsu, I can infer that the seasons are largely covered in snow even in the spring time
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>>100811691
Didn't the same guy make one recently about Holo and Lawrence? I heard that one was better. Anyone know where it was?
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>>100811971
If she's getting fat (ie, showing visible signs of pregnancy) then she's probably more than a few weeks in, no? Or are you saying that he wasn't talking about her baby bump but just being a jerk about her weight in general?.
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>>100811982
Oh, nevermind. There was a link to it on the DWT forums, just had to dig around for it.
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>>100812151
m8 if you're doing this on purpose I swear
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>>100811783
That's unfortunate. I got literally the exact same 5 books from Barnes & Noble today. All 2D.
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>>100811971
but if she's so early along, why have a baby shower when she could still potentially miscarry? isn't that a bigger risk for them if it took 5 years?

Don't tell me that was a fucking wedding because that was not a fucking wedding.
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>>100812097
I'm saying she was at a sort of midway that lawrence wasn't thinking she was pregnant, and called her fat as a mistake, truly a mistake of his own unknowing, she had morning sickness, ergo he was being a jerk because she looked fat, particularly why she was so pertinent and quick to call him a fool
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>>100812338
semantics really, not something the book would be in a position to answer no it wasn't a wedding, book 16 implies at the end that lawrence proposes look
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>>100812514
Normally baby showers aren't held until the woman is at least noticeably pregnant.

Also, why are we being so damn considerate with the spoiler tags today?
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>>100812372
Yeah, I see. He was [spoiled]intentionally take a shot at her weight in the second instance you mentioned, not realizing WHY she was fatter. That said, she was also a bit on the jerky side for not telling him sooner, given how legendarily thick he was about such things (and how happy he was to hear it).[/spoiler:lit]
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>>100812709
Just to troll the people haven't read them yet, I guess?
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>>100812709
I spoiler endings like this because Spice and Wolf is a REALLY long story, not everyone devotes the time to getting all the way to the end, especially the American readers who don't have official releases and who haven't delved into the fan translation
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>>100812742
its not [spoiled]
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>>100807397
my feelings on the end of the light novels exactly.
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>>100813014
spoiler not spoiled fugg
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>>100813014
>>100813110
Bound to happen eventually. Sorry.
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>>100794593
How many sheckels did you put out?
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>>100812709
I suppose thats just a little discrepancy, maybe its not a baby shower, its just a surprise party especially for lawrence
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>>100807397
>the party was supposed to be their wedding

what? where was this implied? I think the video has it backwards

it was implied at the end of 16
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>>100813520
I think it's Holo's way to show off, especially in front all the girls she felt might have been her competitors, had Lawrence genuinely felt that way about them.[/spoilers]
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M8

Ctrl+S
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>>100813784
yea I just don't know where people get that they weren't even married until the party, like I thought it was directly implied at the end of 16, not that this party was a fucking wedding at the very end

that means that the baby is out of wedlock or some shit
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>>100813973
Who cares if it was out of wedlock? Neither of them are even properly religious, it took them five years to make one, and it's not like they're too irresponsible to have kids.
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>>100814136
that wasn't really the point, the point was the interpretation that they weren't married until 17 is ridiculous, I'm pretty sure that at the end of 16, its directly implied that lawrence would propose and in 17 it goes over a little bit how and why it happened and in a far past tense tone as in way back in 16's reference

and it wasn't even that it took them 5 years to make a child not about them being religious, I think its quite obvious shes been pregnant only like a month which means they fucked like 4.5 weeks ago
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>>100814676
Ah, ok. Still, they must have fucked more than once in 5 years, married or not. Also, if she's visibly pregnant, then it would have probably been more like 12 weeks ago or more, not that it matters.
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>>100814895
We already went over this

she just got over morning sickness she can't be any more than 1 month pregnant
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>>100811783
dude you got fucked over hard. It's like god just opened up his ass and shit on your entire life.
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>>100814982
and that lawrence made a joke calling her fat but he didn't know she was pregnant
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>>100815043
Those are just book covers, if he takes them off the real 2d cover is on the inside
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>>100814982
Clearly you're convinced, but women don't generally go from morning sickness to noticeably fatter in a week. Are you saying she was fatter from non-pregnancy, or that Holo's physiology is just that bizarre?
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This anime was weird, the soundtrack reminded me of the kids show Little Bear, and the plot reminded me of some novel I read ages ago.

It was about some man destined to become a world conqueror travelling into a desert and finding some woman who was the God of Trials, and warriors across the world came to try and defeat her in battle, but he won her over through love and thus earned her loyalty to him through the end. It was quite moving.

I don't really like how romances are usually portrayed but I think they can be fucking brilliant when applied properly, they really make you give a shit about the characters. To the point where you're still thinking about the show/story long after you finished it.
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>>100811783
>even the fucking cover girl is laughing at you
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>>100815297
No, she had an ever so slight bludge that lawrence probably took as her being fat

I suppose because holo is such a slender and lanky girl that any sort of "fat" would be easily noticeable especially by someone like lawrence


no fuck this we already went over this now I'm just over analyzing things I we already went over

please read

>>100811204
then>>100811675
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Lazy anon, here. Would some kind person tell me which LN to read to continue the story from Season 2 of the anime?
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>>100815469
This is one of those romances

I like everything about S&W except book 8 and 9, they could have been written better, actually if they didn't make lawrence such a different character in that it'd been fine

and except the end, it could have been WAY better, it was a good ending it was just written bad
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>>100815691
No.
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>>100815577
Alright, alright. I couldn't win an argument with you even if I actually cared, so just feel free to believe what you want. It's a free 4chan.
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>>100815746
Pleeeeaaaaaaaase?
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>>100815691
the anime ends on book 5, meaning you should pick up on book 6, but you NEED to go back and read book 4 because book 4 isn't in the anime and characters in book 4 come back later and you'll be really confused if you don't know who they are
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>>100811982
I just went ahead and updated the download page on the forums to have both fanfics.

If anyone would like to do art for either of them and submit it to us, we'd appreciate it.
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>>100815745
I'm only on book 12, didn't read you spoiler so I'm hoping the ending isn't too harsh on them both, I know good endings are lazy sometimes but I genuinely hope they have a happy ending.
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>>100815776
4, then go to 6 and continue on.
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>>100815773
but this isn't just a believe I'm making logical inferences, morning sickness comes only a few weeks after the pregnancy starts, she wasn't 3 to 4 months pregnant
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>>100815910
>game

SOURCE?
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>tfw my hard as fuck football hooligan uncle came to my house while I was watching the anime
>was skeptical at first but then ended up watching like 5 episodes

I love how he rationalized it with 'that lad knows his money, aye'. We all know who he was really watching
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>>100816005
Sigh. In the story she had morning sickness, and also a bulge visible enough for Lawrence to joke about it. She started off in one state, then time skipped to where she was in the other. Pretty simple stuff, and no point arguing endlessly about it. But go ahead, I'm done.
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>>100816217
Lawrence didn't make that joke because he knew, he made it to be insinuating because he literally thought she was fat
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>>100816217

From the book
I thought the she had gotten a little taller and fatter was the first joke he had made, I think he makes this joke twice. Of course he doesn't know she has morning sickness just that she was sick and he didn't put all the pieces together until the last like paragraph of the epilogue anyway, THEN the reader knows why Holo was sick, she was pregnant and as a precursor she had gotten sick from something which was morning sickness caused by the pregnancy

Also

the second time he makes a fat joke is just as they're standing outside their new inn

and I quote

Seeing that wolf-like look on her face was increasingly rare, so rather than being unnerved by it,
Lawrence felt it made her look even more beautiful.
“You seem happy to be fatter these days.”

His evil reply earned his foot a fierce stomping fit for him to yelp in pain.
“Fool!”
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>>100816338
So Holo has some wolf babies and NTR'd merchant man?
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>>100816285
>>100816338
None of this changes the fact that women do not get noticably fat from pregnancy until quite a ways after the morning sickness phase. So either she WAS getting subtly fatter as she lived with Lawrence (before she got pregnant) or Isuna doesn't know how pregnancy works, or he's implying that Holo has bizarro pregnancies, which are all fine.
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>>100816423
unfortunately, anything beyond this is not canon

This ending could have been written 50 times better like seriously and we wouldn't have to argue over fucking metaphors, inferences and interpretations, granted theres a time and place for all this just not when your entire ending requires biblical scholars to find out what the fuck happened

>>100816495
This is why I hate it so much, I loved the fuck out of the ending its a good story and a good ending it was just written like shit.

obviously the author doesn't have a clue, or another stupid inference is that holo is skinny and lanky and she'd show easily
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>>100792871
>>100792489
>>100791014

When I watch stuff with folks I know, it's dubbed because >casuals
But whenever we do watch something, we play a game called "Find J Michael Tatum".

I swear to god, that fabulous bastard is in everything.
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i didnt wank 4 weeks after finishing the anime and novels

everytime i went to do the deed a wash feels came over me and i couldnt do it. how sad is that
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>>100816815
Its like many video games too

every low voice character is either morgan freeman, barry white, steve blum, or mike rowe
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>>100816822
That is called the transition period, moving between the planes of 3D to 2D. Soon you'll be to gaze on nearly any real women you want without feeling the slightest hint of desire, because deep down you will always have your 2D beauties to come home to.
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>>100815910
GAEM? sauce?
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>>100816919
u fukin nerd lol
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>>100816919
she aint real man

none of them 2 dimensional things is real
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>>100817140
>>100817085
>look I samefagged again.
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>>100797077

I was reading the light novel in my mess once, and someone recognized it. I can only assume he was from /k/.
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>>100817273
Posting those things is actually worse you know?
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>>100817336
just to prove a point, its worth it
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>>100816886

I think the winning find was when my buddy found him in Borderlands 2. That was entirely unexpected.
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>>100817461
found who? michael?
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>a total of 45 minutes in paint, 30 of which were spent toking a vape
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Why is everyone saying Holo like a Jap, is it a joke or can you pronounce it different ways?
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>>100817929
this might be more of it, not sure.
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>>100818010
Holo is the official way its spelled in the american translation

but real katakawabunga translates it literally as Horo

Korbo is just an american anime thing where holo signs her name and its in shitty cursive so it looks like Korbo instead of Holo
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>>100817538

Yeah. He was Sir Hammerlock.
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>>100818010
It's just how it was originally translated (by sub groups and baka-tsuki people) before the official translations came out.
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>>100796589
Always makes me smile

>>100796939
Started out as a Smith and Wesson joke
Now its the bromance of /a/ and /k/
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>>100795428
Sadly this.
People that want a season 3 dont know how bad it would be, since the novels themselves are very weak and have snail like glacial pace. They have their moments, but those moments are hidden in a pile of uninteresting shit. Just give me an OVA about the first story of volume 17
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>>100818255
too bad the author is a lazy fuck not doing anything at all right now
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>>100818255
The novels aren't that bad if you skip the 3 side stories volumes, though 8,9 and 12 are pretty weak compared to the rest. The story had a pretty glacial pace from start to finish, though. I'd say 17 is actually the weakest volume after 12, though.
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>>100818400
Except Magdala de Nemure and getting his VNs onto Stream, that is.
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>>100818457
literally fucking nothing, he did so well with SnW and then tripped at the end

like this magdollar de name thing isn't anything I'd even spit in its general direction

fucking VN's, he should just write a REAL spice and wolf 2
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>>100818400
Doesn't have some kind of sleep disorder that causes him to only be awake for a few hours a day?

Or maybe that was just a joke.
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>>100818579
I'm blind and even I can see why kids love agihogiaheogibnaovnaoieng
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>>100818534
Magdala's not that bad. If you dislike it then I'm surprised you'd like anime/manga/etc enough to even hop onto /a/ in the first place
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>>100818726
the only anime I liked was SnW

literally almost everything else makes me cringe, I'm so fucking picky if anime were food I'd die of starvation
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>>100818746
norah such a qt

we should have a thread just for her

who would norah fall in love with? or will she a be a lonely fart forever?

OR is enek a god and she can mate
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>>100818840
Well, if you liked Sora no Woto that much, I'm sure you can find other anime to enjoy.
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>>100818996
I like FMA brotherhood

I liked G-gundam

I liked gunslinger girl, kinda

I liked Big-O

is IGPX an anime?
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>>100818911
That's a good question, I have no idea off the top of my head.
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>>100818996
What about other romance-inclusive anime, like Nodame Cantabile or Banner/Crest of the Stars?
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>>100819111
they're all shit
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>>100819145
I see. Well, that's a pity.
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>>100819258
>you will never find a character like Holo whose personality, attitude and thoughts are emulated well into a character you can identify and understand

like shes the best character I've ever read about, her persona just dwarfs everything else like I was contemplating watching EVA but I thought that'd be pretty gay because its just not the same

Holo isn't my waifu, its just nothing else comes close to her, its like I'm reading a character out of a history book, shes like hitler in many ways, she cared about her people, lost them all and she was lonely in the end
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>>100818911
She thirsts for the knot.
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>>100819430
thats slightly erotic, I'm disgusted but I'm OK with that

literally mfw
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>>100819470
I need someone to take that scene in Evangelion where sinji masturbates over asuka's comatose body and comes into his hand and turn it into a spice and wolf reiteration EXCEPT Lawrence is in the coma
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Holo and The Boss are like my top two females ever
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>>100807397
Words of wisdom hitler, words of wisdom. Spending 17 volumes expecting some kind of decent resolution was not a wise choice. Fuck the author, fuck japan
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>>100808208

I'm certain he would let you touch them. For a small fee, of course.
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>>100811783

I'm so glad I live in Canada and I was able to get mine with the real covers.

I should probably order the rest before we start getting that horseshit here.
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>>100820835
Idk man, I think the 3dpd covers are pretty much done for.
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>>100823137
They are. The only one that ever even had it as the standard was the first printings of volume 1. The others are all just slip covers. With the later volumes they haven't even bothered with slip covers.
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I only own the LNs, not the manga.
I feel bad.
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>>100824324

I only own three LNs and I think six of the manga. I'm little better.
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so tell me again why we can't get a season III?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT7HLnT83c0&list=RDN4SjivMja_o
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What novel is the manga at?
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It was probably just intended for promotional purposes anyways, get enough people to watch the anime and they'll go read the books. There's no other reason for it, the show had a big fanbase growing around it and there really wasn't any reason NOT to make other seasons.
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>>100825880
at>>100825404
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>>100825880
interesting thought
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Man, I just want doujins of passionate lovemaking between Holo and Lawrence. So many doujins are nothing but rape and NTR or pointlessly contrived sex plots. Spice and Wolf is one of the few series that I think can really get away with genuinely romantic hentai.

Also, is Lawrence's full name Lawrence Kraft, or Kraft Lawrence? I have no idea if they're following Eastern or Western naming conventions.
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>>100828358
It's Kraft Lawrence.
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>>100828398
I personally prefer 'Craft' over 'Kraft'. I like Kraft to be the label on my mac and cheese, not my Spice and Wolf.
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>>100828487
Okay.
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Anyone have a link to Volume 10 scan (yenpress) ?

It should be available but I can't seem to find it
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>>100828487
Agreed, kraft just makes med think of somethng german.
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>>100813778
the damn wedding dress on the cover
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>>100814982
how can you make these judgments? she's a wolf not a human remember.
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>>100828487
But how do you know he didn't go into the mac and cheese business?
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>>100828358
Harvest 3 when?

Am I the only one who wants a 15 page doujin consisting entirely of lawrence eating out korbo?
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>>100835036
We should pool kawakami rokkaku money to draw more spice and wolf stuff full time
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>>100835080
how can we make kickstarter work for that? and how can we guarantee we don't end up getting more korbo pinups? I need that vanilla wolf/merchant sex.
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>mfw thread is still alive

here, listen to the greatest song ever made by humankind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yPo0CUHwAs
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>>100835856
>goes to youtube link
>not whistle low

you disappoint me anon
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>>100835947
>>100835856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEHyPtlVzlk

Both of you disappoint me.
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>>100835856
I was pretty surprised too when I woke up after 8 hours and it stil was up. Not only that, I had a job interview and came home 5 hours later and it was still up. I'm so proud, /a/
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>>100836146
Best thing I've seen. Ever.
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Is it normal reading the LNs on the train and stuff? I mean reading is fine but the covers might think I'm reading some hentai or shit. You don't know with normalfags.
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>>100837873
then make a paper book cover for it like your teachers made you do in elementary school.
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>>100837873
How can you people manage to get into the story while reading it on the train or bus or any uncomfortable situation compared to your home etc.?
these kind of series/books have been all about getting in the mood for me and I couldn't do it in any other place.
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>>100819752
B-bro...
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>>100839138
When you have an hour and a half train ride to work and a seat you can.
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>>100839138
I don't find much trouble with it, although they're often 20~ minutes long as well. I skip reading on the shorter trips.
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>>100836146

>filename

Pfehehe.
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What is your favorite Evangelion episode and why is it "Both Of You, Dance Like You Want To Win!"
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>>100785733
I feel you brah
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Just finished season 2, and I remember seeing a while ago that a season 3 was announced for this summer? But I can't find any such announcement, did I just misread something or should I commit suicide now?
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>>100844923
You should commit suicide. As far as I know, no announcements of a new season has been made. It's not very likely that it'll happen either unfortunately, as it's been four-five years since season 2 aired.
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>>100845013

Well shit, guess I'm rolling the reincarnation dice, thanks anon.
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I read the first 5 volumes in less than a month.
I've spent 1 and a half month to finish the 6th one.
This is really getting bad. I hope it becomes more interesting afterwards, but for what I'm reading here I doubt it. I don't understand why this series goes on so many volumes, but well, I'll carry on reading anyway.
Holo best girl of all times
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>>100845206
You could just pick up the manga or light novels though.
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>>100780638
Not so long ago I read 6th light novel and like barely anything happened. While it is not a bad series I sometimes have problem with Holo and her acting like a bloody baby. And Lawrence being so dense, I mean, you can guess the plot and reasons behind stuff miles and miles ahead, why does author feel the need to make him stupider than he needs to be?

> because he would be eaten by Holo if he had more backbone oh god
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>>100845965
I have only read the 6 first volumes, but I think that the author should just stick with romance interactions and economy. Whenever he tries to describe things like harbors, boats, churches, etc, he fails hard. In volume 6 everything is retarded (all this boat and festival thing, mostly), I don't think it can be worse than that.
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Do the LNs have a happy end?

Is it satisfying?

I don't mind spoilers.
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>>100845965
Because then, Lawrence and Holo would end up together sooner than expected, like they should have, and the series would come to a close in the sixth novel. Why would it end up so soon? Because japanese cant write romance for shit. Sure they do a good job at the courting part, but they have tons of trouble showing how being on relationship really is. The author probably knew he couldnt do a decent job so he just makes those wonderful characters act like full retards until Holo confesses. And then she blatantly cockblocks him again. The Novels just go on and on, and add more and more filler, the sense of relationship progression that was felt in the first 5 novels comes to a halt. Reading 11 novels of just holding hands doesnt cut it. Less novels, less money, it just shows you how the author is like Lawrence and he just maximizes profit at the expense of quality
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Does it ever reveal who those names were to her when she tells Lawrence how lonely she feels when she wakes up and "them" not being there?
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>>100846662
Her wolf friends. Its explained in more detail in volume 15

>>100846607

Yes they do get a happy ending, its very rushed though, and somewhat badly writtenas they leave tons of things in the air. It has its moments though. Also the volume that has the epilogue in it is 2/3 sidestories.
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anyone know about that cross board operation?
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>>100844923
>>100845013
>hey guys I heard this rumor I think
>JUST KILL YOURSELF
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So this theoretical child they have at the end. Is he/she immortal and will he/she have ears and a tail?
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>>100848299
it just ends that holo is pregnant and that is all
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>>100848708
My heart just exploded from cuteness
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>>100848708
Where did you get that?
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>>100848826
its not canon ;_;

>>100848863
on the internet
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Does Lawrence snort some narwhal horn in the end?
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>>100848884
Fuck. It looked official
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>>100848896
No, I believe they expose the dejean company or what ever for money laundering with the copper coin chests basically they weren't stacking the coins properly and by there fore shipping 60 cases "full" instead what was really 58 and then collecting on the shipping difference

I can't remember what exactly happened to the narwal
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>>100848708
inb4 Lawrence starts a race of wolf people, causing mass problems in the future
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>>100848966
I think the illustrative artist for the book itself made it but it went no where
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>>100849131

Also this; I think from volume 17?
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>>100802660
lurk more fgt

tried nyaa.eu?
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>>100849373
oh man can anyone translate moon runes?
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>>100848708
Anymore fan art of Horo/Lawrence family?
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>>100849373
I wish I could find a few pictures of her pregnant
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>>100849542
Wedding night
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>>100849542
Not that I have

strangely, I guess many people didn't finish book 17 or were simply disgusted with the ending, as I imagine many people were and not much fan art of the end of the book came from any of this, either that or its just lost in time because this book series finished like 5 years ago
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>>100849373
That is from the artbook.
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>>100849840
I require this book for my collective purposes

have a holo as payment
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>>100850749
Pretty sure there is a torrent out there. Too lazy to find it right now.

The original Japanese one is decently expensive. I think it was released in French for fairly cheap though, if you're looking to purchase it. There is hardly any text, so language isn't really an issue.
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>>100850749
I really like that picture of her
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>>100851036
God what a shitty ending, none of this shit ever fucking happened and its hardly implied
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>>100851036
last fucking page in that story
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>>100851331
I still don't see how people thought it was a wedding party, only the cover had a picture of them in wedding outfits, I didn't get any implication they weren't married, I thought it was quite explicit that lawrence had asked her long in the past
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>>100816104
>>100817062
It's a cameo when you use a high-level wind spell in the Disgaea games.
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>>100852013
So the game doesn't actually mean anything to do with spice and wolf?
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>>100852607
NIS games have a lot of cameos. I think you can play as Holo in Zettai Hero Project.
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>>100852778
>Zettai Hero Project.
thats pretty neat, even if it is just a costume change
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If this thread dies by like 6:00EST should I make another one later tonight for this weekend or just say fuck it since this is a pretty well off thread on its own?
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>>100855444
OP here, there'll be a new thread eventually whenever someone feels like talking about S&W, but you should create one anyway, why not. This thread will reach page 10 soon enough when we get too many replies anyway. It's amazing how it's been up for well above 36 hours now though.
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>>100856098
Yeah S&W threads'll do that.
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>>100856325
Not usually.
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>>100857646
I disagree
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>>100858232
Not really alive. Just not dead.
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>>100858232
Kind of. Not much S&W-talk going on though.
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>>100859914
Smells like we need a refresher
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