So is this worth actually finishing? I got about half way through a while back before I got bored and stopped watching. Destinctly remember the amazing opening tracks. How about watching the original period? Diehard fans hate it, but there was a thread a while back where you guys said it was better than the reboot.
Also, FMA general.
usually if you hate one you'll love the other
What makes the two different? I read antagonist and general character progression (or lackthereof in the reboot) mostly.
03 anime has better technicals
the third act is completely different
the homunculus are different and are treated differently
brotherhood is a lot more optimistic
and much more
joke's on you I hated both FMAs
for me between the two I only liked the manga
I only watched Brotherhood, which seems the better of the two, and yes, for a 'fight shounen' it is good.
Dubs any good for 03 any good? Feeling lazy/not that interested in just watching the screen.
>I only watched Brotherhood, which seems the better of the two
Since when was this accepted?
If you want to ask a question, ask it, not try to ask question while having a entire series wrapped around your question
i think both are alright in their own rights
the first anime did a lot of the 'emotional' scenes a lot better (like for example when Hughes dies).
brotherhood was pretty bad at that
>trying to do an important scene
>winry comes in for lol xD anime randomness
This, more or less. 2003 did drama much better and had some pretty interesting fight scenes. Personally, though, I fucking hated the ending and some of the filler stuff.
Brotherhood is a lot more lighthearted and I liked how the cast developed in it, despite the butchering of certain scenes. I would recommend it if you plan on watching only one of them but both are quite OK, despite dragging quite a bit early on.
I watch the original anime incarnation and read the manga. Brotherhood is redundant.
It's an example of shounen done correctly (or at least better than most other shows of this genre), so it's probably worth watching just for that.
Brotherhood is better, and worth watching. Watching the first is just if you want to or not.
The plot falls apart in the first series, and then divebombs into the ground with the movie (the series ended on a cliffhanger of sorts). That said, some people enjoy the art style / mood of the first series more.
Don't comment on which is better if you have only seen one...
Dub is fine for both. I prefer the sub, but the dub isn't cringeworthy.
>like when spoiler dies
This. If you are a shounen fan you will probably really like it. If not, there is still a good chance you will like it anyway.
>I watched half of brotherhood
>Something that happened in episode 10 of 64 is a spoiler
Well, didn't think of that. But still, it's not hard to do spoiler text in case lurkers. That said, I can't really feel bad for anyone who has not seen either FMA and are on /a/. So you're right, my bad.
I finally got Brotherhood off my backlog.
Hated the first 36 episodes but the 2nd half was good. Ed's moral compass was annoying as fuck, he was my least favourite character.
This is almost the best shonnen in the last years. Go for it champ.
Same. This should happen at least once to every "b-but killing is bad" MC.
Forgot the image/10
Read the manga.
Ed is suffering heavily from shonen moralfaggotry.
There is also Sol J Kimbley is that damn amazing of a psychopath. You know he's sick bastard but damn if the guy doesn't have style.
I liked the 2003 series better than Brotherhood even though the 2003 series got bad in the end. Brotherhood just didn't seem as good because of the way everything was delivered. The Homunculuii as far as I can tell exist just because. Ed is also fucking retarded in Brotherhood as well and Al didn't have the good sideplot of him wondering if he was ever really real.
You didn't really pay much attention, did you? There wasn't any mystery. They spoonfed you the goals and purpose of every important character. Even the Dwarf in the Flask explained his reasons for everything and they turned out to be very straightforward and believable.
More likely you just stopped watching a third of the way through.
He's something like 13-15 with only a housewife growing up, a psychopath as a mentor and severe emotional baggage.
Did you expect a well rounded philosopher?
>Brotherhood just didn't seem as good because of the way everything was delivered
I wonder if Irie even read the manga before working on the adaptation. Felt like the guy was reading stuff as production went on. Which raises the question about how that spoilerific first episode came to be.
>He's something like 13-15 with only a housewife growing up, a psychopath as a mentor and severe emotional baggage
You usually DON'T end up as a moralfag under those circumstances. Quite the opposite.
Top be honest I stopped paying for cable about halfway through the series and stopped watching it. I didn't like it or really anything else on real TV. As for the Homunculii there's the 7 sins ones that exist just because the main badguy Father needed henchmen and that's all they are.
So kids with daddy issues who grow up knowing their mother's almost absurd kindness, love, and understanding grow up to discard human life?
Someone who matures into a young man who holds mothers to a higher standard than all the science currently understood becomes a cold murderer?
How edgy can you get?
I liked both
It's true though that both have their own interpretation of homonculi and the series as a whole, and you might like one more than the other.
Holy shit yes. One of the best anime of our time. The first half was only a set up for the finale.
>Ed is also fucking retarded in Brotherhood
>Al didn't have the good sideplot of him wondering if he was ever really real.
Yes he did, they just didn't drag it on for a dozen chapters pointlessly. 2003 did that because their Al was completely useless baggage so they had to fill his screentime with something.
>Diehard fans hate it
Even though it better fallows the manga plot? Even so that would also be a reason to no longer watch it with other people.
Both are good and have different strengths.
By dint of the material they had to cover, the original TV broadcast had more time to flesh out the characters and dwell on some of the beginning arcs (which were really quite dark). In many ways the first half of the original series is the strongest, and for an anime original ending, it's not half bad.
Brotherhood really picks up in the second half, though, and has the Xing characters as well as the Briggs guys, making for some impressively animated fights.
It feels like none of you ever actually read the manga or watched Brotherhood and are just going by what others tell you. Ed never never once bitches at other people from killing. He just refuses to do it himself.
Man, I remember Japan-kun.
I hope I got the name right
>Ed never never once bitches at other people from killing
The only thing the 2003 anime does is stretch out the beginning up until the mid-point, at which point it runs out of plot and turns into a nonsensical succession of dark and tragic stuff that happens just so there can be dark and tragic stuff happening, plotholes out the ass, plot threads that make no sense at all in-universe and clearly are there just to have more tragedies on screen, a finale whose grand reveal requires that every Alchemist ever be a giant moron and generally seems crafted to be ridiculous enough that you don't notice the glaring plotholes that are piled one over another by the end.
Every translation I saw had it as Zolf. Is Sol the official one?
You didn'' actually watch it did you?
Read the manga. Skip both anime series. I would probably watch Brotherhood if it had FMA's music.
It is generally considered one of the best shounens by /a/ from what I've seen so I guess that says something, considering most of /a/ don't like shounens at all.
It is one of my personal favorites, although I haven't watched the original.
It had elder god tier openings, I'll give it that.
That subplot almost ruined the series. "Ugu I might be a doll nisan created because some random retard told me so, even though I have been treated as nicely as humanly possible so far." And that's to say nothing of how he worked with LINA'S DAD later.
Pic related and 63 were the best thing to ever happen to Al.
>tfw the original was all we had back then
It was fucking awesome back in the day. That it goes in a different direction than the manga is often cited as a fault, and I agree that's sub-optimal. But honestly, I think apart from the ending, it was excellent.
Of course I did. Which is why I know what a terribly hamfisted mess it is.
How much of the late drama revolves around a revolt instigated by the villains for absolutely no reason? They just took that plot thread from the manga, completely forgot to reveal the part where it served anybody and hastily hacked something together at the end to give it meaning while hoping you wouldn't notice there was no fucking way Dante could have known this would happen years prior when she started the revolt in the first place.
In fact, the entire frame plot of Dante trying to "guide" someone into making a Philosopher stone is the series' biggest plothole. They had the knowledge, they had the resources, they even had secretive installations whose only purpose seemed to be existing in the hopes Ed would stumble onto them and do their work for them. And all the while this was all dictated by an age-old alchemist who's so skilled she can open a gate for shits and giggle via baby magic. She could have made a stone any time she wanted with the shit they had in the laboratory, or led a squad onto an empty plain where they had pre-drawn a circle, or anything. She's effectively the same as the King of Xerxes, except her stone requires a lot less work and people to make yet she's pointlessly roundabout about making it.
Why is Ed so hot?
The first one is one of the four or five openings I really like, not because of the anime it reminds me of, I really like the song.
Riza had better taste.
It always seemed weird that everyone recognized the Ishvalans because of their characteristic red eyes, but nobody even notes Ed has golden eyes even though him, Hohenheim and Al are the last living members of Xerxes' race.
>He just refuses to do it himself.
That was my problem with him. Things could have progressed much faster if he had been willing to bend his morals for certain circumstances. It's not about telling others not to kill, although his shouting was annoying too.
Arakawa likes 'em manly.
You both have shitty taste
Can I get any FMA feelin from Gin no saji?
>That scene where he goes apeshit and burns the shit out of envy
I had an erection
> although his shouting was annoying too
>bend his morals
If you bend your morals then you might as well not have morals at all.
Envy is the only character in 03
Brotherhood made him such a loser.
i think you mean lust
he went apeshit at envy for pretending to be maes hughes and riza hawkeye, but he didnt kill him, that was done by scar's team with doctor darth sidious and chinese loli
Ehhh kinda. The only similarity obviously is the look. Other than that it's not the same.
>That one doujin where Riza and Mira double-team Ed's penis
A lot of Amestrians were blond, though, which probably helped.
What can I say, I like morally ambiguous characters.
This one. Best MC for you: not shouting and not bitching without killing and morals.
And what's wrong with it?
I think your memory is kinda fuzzy, anon. Envy survives the loli coalition because the loli was really dumb sweet, gets his body back and then Roy burns the living fucking shit out of him.
Oh. But isn't s2 supposedly shit? That's why I haven't watched it
Season 2 doesn't exist.
Please don't remind me
>It had elder god tier openings
That's some pretty low standards here.
I want to point out that Mustang's abs are anime original.
Those are not.
Are you seriously telling me Mustang's aren't canon.
>still hasn't read the manga
Brotherhoodfags truly are the worst.
Read the manga
I blame my seemly self-aware, ever expanding backlog.
Not him but luckily FMA was my first manga ever. And I'm glad it was because it meant I skipped the Naruto/bleach/other shounenshit stage
>I skipped the Naruto/bleach/other shounenshit stage
This is an important stage though. You need to see real shit to establish proper standards.
Well, I tried reading them and thought they were shit straight away. I managed to avoid the disgusting weeaboo phase where you think they're good.
>Well, I tried reading them and thought they were shit straight away.
Considering Naruto only became actual shit after the timeskip (otherwise just mediocre) and same thing happened to Bleach when it started the Soul Society arc (again just a mediocre manga that became shit) that just goes to show that you have no idea what you are talking about.
It says solf in the dvds