Nobunaga the Fool thread: loser edition.
Please don't bully Jeanne!
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Tarot card of Nobunaga the fool in several design steps. First, ep 1 - The Star. pic.twitter.com/57RC2O5K6w
I really like the ED.
So there's going to be 22 episodes right? Since the name episode follows Tarot cards.
24, I think.
She's got the cutest giggle.
If Jeanne's middle name is Kaguya, then is she part Japanese>
>Futurepast Joey Wheeler activates his trap card.jpg
No. They obviously just tacked it on her because she's likened to the proverbial princess-from-another-world-bearing-gifts.
>anime for real men
wow that's trippy
I want to lick her shiny legs
Glorious Mamoru Miyano.
And yet, girly MitsuHide is like the straightest man around.
Can't wait for the backstabbing cunts to join together.
He is totally after Nobu's dick.
No. He wants Ichi's V.
Is this show worth picking up?
You know, I'm okay for some Sengoku Jidai Yugioh.
The next season is about a boy using a vegetable deck of all things to use.
Those tarots look very nice, I hope they'll make a deck of it and sell it.
>Sengoku Jidai Yugioh.
Might be pretty cool to watch, Daimyos fighting each other through a cardgame instead.
Mitsu X Brutus OTP.
Depends if you like stupid things and robots and boobs.
No, it's shit.
>Those tarots look very nice, I hope they'll make a deck of it and sell it.
Someone said they are going to sell those with the BD (not sure of how many for BD, though).
>Those tarots look very nice, I hope they'll make a deck of it and sell it.
They're coming out with the BD's
These guys are smart, now I'll have to buy the damn BD just to get those cards.
The second pic has a distinct 'art nouveau' style the final product doesn't.
It's pure crap and everyone agrees the mecha is the worst part of the show
Why did they change the number on the top of the card?
How much for a BD, and how much episodes in it ?
At the same time I don't feel like buying any of it before making sure it won't turn to rage inducing shit like EVOL did.
Just watch Break Blade if you want a mecha show that isn't Gundam and doesn't have beam spam.
Nobunaga is a disgrace to mecha shows.
Last episode was bullshit.
In less than 3 minutes, the power balance of an entire nation changed with just a simple bow and arrow.
You might as well treat all the mechas in this show as cardboard cut-outs.
Illustrated box (for four volumes)
Three tarot cards (random from 24 kinds)
Tarot card case
Introduction novel vol.1
Application card (valid only in Japan)
>Three tarot cards (random from 24 kinds)
>random from 24 kinds
This is the biggest kind of dickery right here.
But Nobunaga is the hero that fate has decided will fulfill Jeanne's destiny. Of course he's going to be incredibly OP.
Nobunaga the Fool is, by design, not supposed to be realistic at all. It's the same "Generals/plot characters are the only ones able to fight properly" type of thing you see in lots of shows. Break Blade is exceptional in that it's actually well written.
Nothing wrong with Nobunaga the Fool if you don't go in expecting something it's not.
I think the "random" because you won't get I-II-III with the BD, but maybe I-V-X and II/III with the following volumes.
It makes sense, because maybe you might be interested only in one particular card (maximum autism, but you never know who is buying your stuff).
So you admit he's a Gary Stu?
He never even piloted a mech before yet can kill 2 experienced soldiers that served under Magellan.
You think the faggot would vomit from running and jumping around in his mech which even Muv Luv made a point of emphasizing.
He's a Gary Stu but I like him.
I guess I made an overdose of uncompetent whiny beta MCs, and I now fully embrace OP characters.
Well he is the "Nobunaga"
Forgive my newfaggotery, but what is a digipak ?
And I guess the booklet is full of illustrations ? Hopefully. The character design is really good when it doesn't suffer from the QUALITY plaguig this anime...
I can't wait for the horsebot.
I wonder who'll pilot it.
> but what is a digipak ?
Something like pic related, but a bit taller and probably 2-sides and not 3.
>And I guess the booklet is full of illustrations ?
Depends. I think it will have screenshots, interviews, comments, part of storyboards and maybe one of two genga.
You mean this? I'm pretty sure it's Caesar's.
Probably Arthur, because it has that long sword.
Well the one in the OP has the same sword, unless the two of them have similar war armour with just different regalia.
I find those armoured robots incredibly cool, but I'm by no mean a mecha connoisseur.
I really do like the setting, but I think they might have gone overboard with the historical Western figures. I couldn't stop giggling when Caesar left Sector 15 to Brutus.
>Japan's greatest hero
>not being a Gary Stu
This is the part of the show where the enemies are cardboard cutouts. Until somebody important comes along don't expect him to lose much, ever.
BREAK IT DOWN
What part of anything related to the show made you think it was going to be realistic at all?
The ED visuals are really awesome
Well I expected it to be stupid and nonsensical. It's that plus bad. Don't know if the kind of bad of so-bad-it's-good, but it's bad.
>Himiko won only by title, in the end it will be a loveless marriage
>Nobunaga can never be in love with Jeanne because despite being Ranmaru in the past life, this "Ranmaru" is now a woman.
>Nobunaga can now prevent Mitsuhide's betrayal and have gay sex all day everyday in Honnoji
and the music.
Too bad that Mitsuhide isn't into men.
He is going to betray him for Ichihime
Mitsuhide wants the V.
Take that landwhales !
It has the shittiest opening of the season, that's for sure.
Don't worry, anon. It's Himiko that's going to get her ass devastated by Kawamori.
Did she have 2 sets of eyebrows?
I think the purple dots just make-up.
She's very cute.
No fanart general.
Just letting you know.
Well, since we are now prepare to deal with her inevitable defeat, the shitstorm should be minimum this time.
I don't know why people think she has a chance, first episode already showed us Nobu X Ranmaru OTP and we already know who Jeanne is a reincarnation of.
She already won da Nob Unaga, by title only. She'll never win his heart
Can they keep the stupidity for 22 episodes without going full trainwreck? I mean, it's a trainwreck already but I don't want this to turn unto a bad kind of one like the last time. I think it was better when it was just 12 episodes.
But what about imouto?
> not knowing what the bear means
But the Ranmaru now is a woman.
Nobunaga will touch no bitches
I hope they have learned from EVOL and keep the silly train running at full speed 'til the end, and not trying to make the show "more seriously" or anything like that.
That's why it's love rectangular, anon.
Goddamnit. I know she's going to lose. ;_;
Yeah, that was nice one.
I thought the 3rd episode was a huge improvement to the first two dull episodes, Now he has got a fast track wife by his side I'm sure it'll be even better.
>inb4 the twist this time is that the best girl wins.
I have the feeling that they'll try to make things serious when they run out of ideas towards the half and shit will go down. I mean, I can see them not wanting to be repetitive with the stupid fights and silly snipers. I think shit will go down when Mitsuhide betrays them and the show will go full angst and all that shit.
>that crazy bitch
She is so worse that it hurts. Even worse than Jeanne.
Well, Kawamori was the one who tried to convince everyone that magical dogs and bestiality were serious business...
Things can get seriously without having to be boring like the 2nd half of EVOL, you know.
Which is what I meant when I said they should keep the silly train running at full speed no matter the cost. EVOL suffers once it stops being crazy & over-the-top.
>magical dogs and bestiality were serious business
I must be the only one who loves that "twist" in EVOL.
Definitely one of my favorite reveal.
I didn't mind so much because I didn't watched Sousei anyways. What it pissed me off is that they tried to make it look serious and dramatic when it obviously wasn't. In fact, Fudo being Apollonius didn't bother me at all, the rage comes when he walks free at the end. They could have punished him or something.
Why would you want Fudo punished?
Dude's the living incarnation of troll. He's awesome.
Yeah, as long as they don't bring terrible drama, it's all good. Even some retarded plot twists are fine since The Fool doesn't isn't a sequel, so it doesn't have any previous story to shit on. I can see historyfags being mad all over, though. Good luck I'm not one.
>I can see historyfags being mad all over, though.
But that's the joke.
I have difficulty picturing Himiko as best girl.
>puny little body : will never be able to bear you healthy and stronk sons
>will have no prob forcing herself on you, doesn't give a shit about your free will
Only positive point as a waifu is that she's rich.
That said she looks like a fun character. I liked Ranka too but I never shipped her with Alto.
He's the despicable kind of troll. Being a horrible man and responsible of pretty much all the shit that happened, deaths included. That murderer shouldn't be revered as a mentor.
>I liked Ranka too
Don't tell me that Jeane's VA is...
The dog twist explained a little bit Kagura and Amata's insane behaviour and faithfulness to Mikono.
However it made Fudou an horrible cunt. Letting poor Appollo who was just a kid die in his place because he didn't want to take repsonsabilities and settle things with his former BF.
>However it made Fudou an horrible cunt.
Yeah, I know what you are talking about.
Though he "amend" for that by receiving Touma into his heart/soul/whatever.
Let's consider this: both Himiko and Jeanne are not best girls. But one is less shit than the other. Then the question here would be: who is less shit?
Mitsuhide, of course.
But seriously, Jeane is the best girl and she should win.
>inb4 Jeane wins as a Ranmaru
>Kagura and Amata's insane behaviour and faithfulness to Mikono.
Nah, Amata was just literally pushed to obsess over Mikono because she was Kawamori's favorite and also main girl. There's literally no explanation as to why would Amata choose her, other than he constantly overlaps her with his mom and makes him relive his childhood trauma. But it's pretty much Kawamori pushing him to choose her despite all (it was even said in the interviews). Pollon really doesn't have any influence on this, story-wise. It's the law of first girl winning, nothing less and nothing more.
It's also worthy of comment that when talking about Pollon, it only makes focus on Kagura, not Amata. Pollon is literally overlapped with Kagura, this never happens with Amata.
Why the fuck do people even bother making threads about this show?
>But seriously, Jeane is the best girl
> and she should win.
Why not? And don't tell me 'because the show is shit', most of the threads on /a/ are about shit shows.
Who are you rooting for?
You don't like fun anon?
Because we like it, anon.
Just learn to tolerate people liking differnt things than you.
Well, this show is not shit, but barely anyone cares because it's boring. I know, last episode was crazy and a huge improvement, but by then everyone stopped caring, even more when there's better shows airing currently.
No one. I don't like neither Jeanne nor Himiko, and it's obvious Jeanne is set to win anyways, so it's not worth cheering for anyone.
Yfw the ED starts playing during one of the battles
I don't think she's that bad for a main character. She's not afraid to respond to Nobu, she's starting to understand him, isn't afraid to jump into a war despite her inexperience, not to mention she's starting to learn how to use a weapon, seems good. She's still a damsel in distress but she's changing.
>wub wub wub
All i want is for her to not get stuck as a damsel the whole show. She has a sword in the opening and she should use it.
I will be pissed if she never use that sword or ware that outfit again.
>inb4 she is stuck in Ranmaru's outfit forever.
Himiko seems more fun as a character, but Jeanne is a better match for Nobunaga. She's the head on the shoulder which makes her more dull but at the same time more likely to keep Nobunaga in check when needed.
Jeanne a shit, where the fuck is Voltaire?
No one give a flying shit about that ugly old man, tripfag, just deal with it.
Can someone tell me how this meme started, I've seen it several time with Zessica, but I never watched Evol or been in a Evol thread.
From what I heard, it started in /sp/.
yfw da bears win the superb owl
And then I think it spilled into here with Kanna from Ano Natsu.
Ranmaru look > cheap whore look
She really looks cute in that outfit, but I don't think she'll wear it for long. She's still wearing the slutty armor in the OP.
Makes me wonder what weapon will she really be using, a bow or a sword?
Yeah, Kanna from Ano Natsu was when that picture was first used.
Well, since she is carrying a sword in the OP...
But she's learning to how to use a bow, did she gave up?
>/a/ can't tell the difference between a tripfag and a namefag
I want the peasant dress back...
Let it go, anon.
That ship has long sailed.
But it was so cute without being a boob torturing device....
she never stood a chance, did she
It's a question of how much Kawamori wants to fuck with her now.
So, who's the guy that is gonna die?
De Vinci or monkey.
Nah. He's the Fudo, he'll outlive everyone.
It's either the monkey or Mitsuhide.
monkey is gonna die and mitsuhide is going to the betray them
I guess it was inevitable. He won't have much to do if Nobunaga isn't betrayed by Mitsuhide.
But nobody will care if he dies. Mitsuhide on the other hand.
Yeah, that's why I agree that he'll be the one to die. Mitsuhide wouldn't be the one to die unless they do some Kircheis stuff and have him be the reason Nobunaga decided to invade the Western planet.
Speaking of invasion, I'm curious how they're planning to pull that off, the Eastern mechas need some serious upgrade to even go against the Western one.
Ichihime. So Mitsu can betray them.
Oda's siblings, both of them.
>no one remembers Kakizaki
His half finished steak remembers.
Racist scum, please go away.
Are you ready to follow him to the ends of the Earth?
Totally. I can't wait for him to kick that faggot Arthur's butt.
I'm looking forward to Caesar's Regalia, it would be awesome if it something not fit for hand-to-hand combat.
>Makes me wonder what weapon will she really be using, a bow or a sword?
None, the most convenient one at the time. But since Nobu seems to be doing the fights and she's acting like his personal bitch I doubt she'll do anything but help him when he needs to.
Only works if you like stupid crap and dubstep.
I dont think they have fedoras at East Planet for him.
Why is Jeanne such a terrible character?
Why does Kawamori have such terrible taste in female leads?
>Why is Jeanne such a terrible character?
OP said: don't bully Jeanne.
She deserves to be bullied.
The whole show is crap, honestly, it only redeemed itself a bit in the last episode.
>Why is Jeanne such a terrible character?
> Why does Kawamori have such terrible taste in female leads?
He won't rest until you like passive damsels in distress. Good thing is easy to ignore her.
You know, I was almost starting to like her because she was useful and not annoyingly submissive.
But then this happened and for some reason it pissed me off.
I have the feeling she is, by default, mean to be some girl Nobu has to save and shit, but they pull these convenient situations as some half-assed attempt to convince people she isn't useless like Mikono. I mean, come on, those kids stood there with a bit of fire just so she could come and save them, even though they weren't exactly trapped? Jesus christ those scenes look so damn elaborated and shallow I can't even take them seriously. Reminds me of all the scenes specifically build so Shoko could show off with her stupid friendship logic, even though there were some other better alternatives.
Shoko's friendship power is real anon. On the other hand, Jeanne is just as you said.
Shoko a shit
Worst girl of the forever
I hope the aliens killed her
> so she could come and save them, even though they weren't exactly trapped?
I would add: even though she is a foreign and there are native warriors who don't give a single fuck to save children from their own nation.
>Shoko's friendship power is real anon.
Untill S2 happened.
Shoko did nothing wrong
Okay I can't type that without laughing
> I would add: even though she is a foreign and
Yeah, yeah, she's such a kind and pure soul, saving children who magically stay in dangerous places (even though the fire wasn't that close to them and they still had a wide road to escape trough) against all common sense so she can show off and prove the audience she isn't like Miss Useless. Except only an idiot would fall for that.
> there are native warriors who don't give a single fuck to save children from their own nation.
Yes, but were there shown any soldiers who outright refused to save those children? No. That's just your assumption that she had to do it because no one else would.
>Implying he doesn't want both.
At least Shoko is pretty. Long hair would do wonders on her.
>Yes, but were there shown any soldiers who outright refused to save those children
Mitsu and Monkey.
How long until Mitsuhide and Brutus did nothing wrong?
Are you implying they did?
>Implying the blood thirsty soldiers would notice children.
> Still mad at Shoko.
Too bad for you, the aliens are her tomodachi now.
I just noticed, weren't Nobu and the rest feeling sorrow for the dead soldiers in episode 1? Why don't they give a fuck about deaths now, if Nobu even cried when he saw all those corpses? Wouldn't they want to avoid more deaths by saving people? Wow, fuck character consistency for the sake of plot (and Jeanne), too?
>Someone said they are going to sell those with the BD (not sure of how many for BD, though).
It seems each volumes of BD/DVD comes with 3 tarot cards so there are 24 altogether. I wonder how does it even work since Major Arcana is only 22 tarot cards.
>if Nobu even cried when he saw all those corpses?
Because there is tweest: he was scared because he had no weapons.
But what does it mean?
1st is pure white.
24th is pure black.
It means what it said.
You know, they didn't have to make the first scenes of episode 1 completely pointless for the sake of highlighting Jeanne...
It means not blood related
It means it's time for Himiko to get on the loser train.
And hey, if she and Nobunaga actually marry, but Nobunaga goes with Jeanne instead, we actually have the correct form of NTR.
Jeanne is set to win, okay.
> first girl
> Mikono's granddaughter
> destiny and reincarnations on her side
> Nobu already gave her the D in her past life
Anyone rooting for Himiko is either a masochist or delusional.
Pointing out actual character flaws =/= bullying
Your character has flaws, get over it.
Shoko was nice, until PRIORITIES and DECISIONS and AS PRIME MINISTER, I MUST MAKE A CHOICE.
Too bad it went down the shitter.
You're all terrible people.
Give me a brofist.
I don't know why people say any girl is gonna lose the Nobunaga.
Monogamy was an alien concept for nobility or warlords in ancient Japan and polygamy didn't get outlawed in Japan until after World War 2.
Historical Nobunage took plenty of women in his life and didn't just stick to only sticking his dick inside only one woman.
In fact, it be downright unusual and impractical for a prince or potential Emperor to only stick to having one wife.
In those times, you can't be sure how many of your kids will have a chance to grow to adulthood so the more wives and kids you have, the less chance your blood line will die out from war, famine, disease, etc
But Kawamori is doing it, he doesn't do multiple characters winning
Historical harems and polygamy doesn't stop shows from love drama, even when based on time periods where it was acceptable.
There is no reason so far to think Jeanne, Himiko, and Ichi will be fine with sharing Nobunaga together. Maybe Himiko would say fine as long as the other girls are secondaries, but a Kawamori show and the current set-up just screams some love melodrama at one point.
Star of the East =! Sengoku Era
The big clue is the giant robots, but the blonde with massive tits, the Caesar invasion and MC's ridiculous hair is also a fairly obvious clue.
The best part of the show is Jeanne and her reactions to the shit around her.
No, ep3 was fucking awful when you could feel her panties flooding when >>100792019
>There is no reason so far to think Jeanne, Himiko, and Ichi will be fine with sharing Nobunaga together.
>Implying women have any sort of choice when it comes to marriages especially during that era.
>Implying upper class women were not just tools for their families' economic and political benefits
And why is that bad?
I think whoever wrote >>100792415 >>100793779 explained it pretty well.
She's a faux-useful damsel in distress.
It´s not Shoko´s fault that the writers shat all over her character
Anon, we have been through this a thousand times, Kawamori doesn't give a single flying fuck about historical accuracy. Stop trying to apply logic to something that lacks it on the first place.
A blank stare with a worried face is not very amusing, I think.
This anime is so retarded.
Why does Nobu need a mech when he is already hax enough to take down giant war mechs with just a bow and arrow?
Even if an archer is not as good as Nobu when it comes to shooting arrows, a platoon of archers would be able to spam enough arrows that at a couple of arrows would be able to reach the cockpit of an enemy mech considering how laughably wide and plenty the air vents that the giant war mechs have which make it an obvious weakness.
That shit was retarded. He could do it from the top of the hill and from below too? Who the fuck would design a giant robot where you could fire an arrow inside it that would hit the pilot without resistance as it approached you from any angle?
>Why does Nobu need a mech when he is already hax enough to take down giant war mechs with just a bow and arrow?
Because Taked's robot is not pants on head retard and has the cockpit covered.
I have but one thing to say to this thread.
Fuck you Japan... fuck you.
But this is correct.
ä mustard race
Next thing your going to say is that they are mispronouncing it.
It would be far more economical and practical for Nobu to stick to being a hax archer because the cost and time required to maintain a giant war mech prior battle and after battle must be very time consuming and pricy and rather than risking expensive mechs getting destroyed, I would rather have broken bows and arrows instead if I was Nobu or Nobu's dad.
Like see how Nobu destroyed perfectly good mechs by slashing them in half with his mech?
When he was shooting arrows as an archer, he risked the least damage to enemy mechs since only their pilot got killed while the mech remained relatively undamaged which means that Nobu has secured undamaged spoils of war that can be used to further increase the offensive capability of his father's army.
However, when Nobu starts using his mech, he unnecessarily damages the enemy mechs he is fighting and damages them so much that the cost to repair them is likely not worth it.
So yeah, taking all this into consideration, Nobu should just stick to being an archer.
In fact, it would make him look more like a hero if a legend started being made about how a simple archer like hime was able to bring down so many mechs with just his bow, alone.
Nobu could become a legend far more faster this way.
A bunch of kid's houses are on fire this episode.
Somehow the smart thing for them to do is continue to crouch down next to their burning homes.
The fuck? No kid should be this retarded.
A home during that era wouldn't be so far away from a local well or river. The least these kids could do is hide next to their family well or local river to escape from a fire.
While that is undeniable,
A: You can't archer closed mecha (i.e. giant war armors) into submission
B: It looks cool.
You guys need to be reminded of who wrote this show.
Do you think he specified that Nobunaga could kill any mech by shooting an arrow from any angle?
We already discussed it, that scene was fabricated to make Jeanne look sympathetic. Even more, they butchered Monkey and Mitsuhide's character to favor Jeanne and make her look good or whatever. I was retarded, yes. See >>100798930
If dogs can reincarnate into humans and getting naked is a legit combat strategy, why the fuck not?
You know what is funny.
Monkey is driving around a rather large giant truck that can likely fit around 30 to 50 people max yet no one thinks of having their foot soldiers hitch a ride and make them run on foot to the battlefield instead, wasting precious stamina.
Also, everyone is going Oohhhh and Ahhhh over Nobu's new mech instead of the fucking hanger hybrid car which should be more impressive instead since we also saw it drive down a river.
For once, this actually was explained. Their military leaders are fucking stupid, hence why Mitsuhide wanted to change it up somehow.
Nobunaga's bro and father.