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Why do people like this again? It's basically Gary Stu the high school student who can kill everything meets Mary Sue the Vampirefu and their "emotional" (see: cliche vampire shit) relationship.

Dare I say, Twilight for weaboos, minus werewolves and shit.

No I'm not watching the nonexistant anime.
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>>100760199
you clearly didn't read it, did you?
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>>100760605
I think I do. Pretty sure I did.
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>>100760715
it was not the best VN but it had it's good points.
/a/ mostly liked it for incest route.
but nobody on /a/ gives a shit about what /a/ thinks.
you can consider it as a good prelude to F/SN.
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>>100760199
>Gary Stu the high school student who can kill everything meets

I guess he never met a Servant then
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>>100761243
No I don't think he did.
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>>100760199
>Gary Stu
you know his only redeeming quality is his singularity
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It's just nostalgia. Tsukihime was one of the first big VNs that got an English patch.
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>>100761243
Yes he did. He met two of them and he raped them
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Why do people like anything TM? Waifus. It's been so many years and the best they have is still spitting up those dogshit Grail War III stories.
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>>100761159
>you can consider it as a good prelude to F/SN.
Tsukihime>F/Stay Shit
>>100760199
Going for worst girl? You brought it on yourself.
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>>100760199

You clearly have shit taste. moving on
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>>100760199
You really don't know a damn thing, why make a thread?
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>>100762569
This is a definite possibility. What shall we move on to?

>>100762627
Enlighten me.
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>>100760199
Why is there no sensei route?
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>>100762653
When is there ever a sensei route?
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>>100762650

I don't know, talking about which routes/characters you hated and why, or maybe any questions that you have unanswered about the series?
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>>100762743
Other porn games.
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>>100762813
This isn't a porn game.
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>>100762650
You straw manned the hell out of it, so why should you deserve a half way decent explanation.
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Smug is love.
Smug is live.
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>>100762850
No I didn't straw man it, I just said I thought it was really fucking lame and described the characters as I saw them.
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>>100762832
But it was. Just because it read like ass and the MC was half out of his mind didn't make it feel any less of a dating sim.
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>>100762889
ーーーーーー(゜∀゜)ーーーーーー!
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>>100762949
>dating sim

Please use the term Eroge or Visual Novel. these aren't dating sims.
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>>100762889
Her route sucks though.
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>>100763043
Every route sucks.
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>>100763008
>These aren't dating sims

mega kek
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>>100763062
Chair lost it's life for nothing?
'no'
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>>100760199
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>>100763079
Not the guy you're arguing with, but do you even know the definition of a dating sim and what sets them apart from "normal" VNs?
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>>100763220
That's the first award I've ever won. Thanks.
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>>100763266

Doing such a thing would kill his mind canonically.
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>>100763266
His knife isn't a conceptual weapon, so it wouldn't even 'touch' the servants.
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>>100763062
Why were all the grills so much better outside their own route?
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>>100763266
>implying he would be able to see the lines of beings like servants without almost killing him

These are beings that have their entire existence tied to something beyond the world. They aren't like tables or some shit.
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>>100760199
>Why do people like this again? It's basically Gary Stu the high school student

He's not a Gary Stu. The literary term for "Mary Sue" (and thus Gary Stu) has a number of conditions that must be met. It's actually fairly difficult to have a Gary Stu or Mary Sue. Simply being high-powered or over-powered doesn't make a character into a Gary Stu. Example of universally-accepted Mary Sue or Gary Stu is Asuna or Kirito of Sword Art Online.
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>>100763353
Arcueid thought that too...
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>>100760199
You know, this came along WAY before twilight. Just because in your culture it isn't big doesn't mean it isn't pleb chuuni shit in its place of origin. In fact, this is THE pleb chuuni shit starter set on a convenient VN.
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>>100763568
Oh boy, is it time for Gary Stu arguments again?
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>>100763629
She isn't a servant. She's a fairy.
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>>100763697
Shiki can kill servants.
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>>100763734

How can she kill servants if she can't even kill a buddha?
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>>100763734
Which Shiki?
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>>100763725
She too, can't really be harmed by anything except for conceptual weapons. Eyes of death perception ignore this entirely.
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>>100763353
It's not touching the servants. It's touching the lines.
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>>100763353
The idea is that the lines themselves are conceptual, and those lines can be interacted with regardless of the target if they can be seen.
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>>100763353
>>100763542
>>100763725
>>100763815
>>100763842
Tohno can in fact kill servants.

When he killed Arcueid, 17 cuts landed in "an instant".
This is on the same level as 5th grail war Asassin's Tsubame Gaeshi. This is in fact canon. Non only that, but Arcueid was not able to notice she was being followed, nor feel any killing intent from Tohno until the blade already killed her. This is on the same level as asassin servant presence concealment.

In the official Tsukihime manga, Shiki was capable of slicing and killing lightning shot at him by Roa. A low estimate of the speed required for this would land at 96,000MPH, which is the atmospheric discharge of lightning at denser levels (closer to lower altitudes.)

Tying together presence concealment, Zelretch level ability (flash sheath), and A class speed, Shiki could in fact stand a chance against most servants. His trump card that would place him above anything summoned under asassin card would be that he essentially has an instant kill move if he ever gets near, making him a very deadly oponent.

To use concrete evidence of Shiki proving himself time and time again, we can look at who in fact he has killed.

Nrvnqsr Chaos the 10th apostle. In one attack Tohno managed to kill all 666 of his lives.

Michael Roa Valdamjong, said to be immortal by traveling between Akasha and back, "reincarnating". Tohno severed his connection to Akasha, erasing his existance.

It's good to take note here, that Servants are tied to the Akashic record in the throne of heroes, which is what allows them to be summoned in the first place. When shiki kills a servant, they can no longer be summoned. Sounds like just the kind of person Archer was looking for.

In the "Talk" side story for Tsukihime, Tohno manged to kill the forest of Einnashe, the seventh dead apostle. He also managed to kill Einnashe's reality marble.
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>>100764061
Can Akiha beat a servant?
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>>100763994
Then why does he need the knife?
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>>100764061
>>100764061
>When he killed Arcueid, 17 cuts landed in "an instant".
>This is on the same level as 5th grail war Asassin's Tsubame Gaeshi.

No it allows him to attack Extremely quickly not instantly. it's so fast that it seems like a instant, but it isn't a instant.
>Nanaya: Flash Sheath (閃鞘, Sensa?), the ability to attack extraordinarily quickly

Also Servants > the 27 Deadly Apostles (except for primal murder and Arc's Sister)

Servants are more of a difficult concept to understand than Arcuied. His mind can't comprehend servants doing so would kill him

>When shiki kills a servant, they can no longer be summoned. Sounds like just the kind of person Archer was looking for.

No, because the original person is still stored at the Throne, he just kills the copy that is summoned, this does not prevent them from being resummoned.

>>100764306

He can use any sharp object, including his fingernails apparently.
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>>100764306
But he doesn't. He just use it because it was something his father gave him.
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>>100760199
>Gary Stu.
>Loses his mind when he uses his Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.
>Twilight was released in 2005
>Tsukihime was released in 2000
Plus the Vampire Waifu is only relevant in two out of five routes.
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>>100764061

I've never seen so much fanwank in one post. good job
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>>100764061

This is nice and all, but to begin with he can't see any lines on the servants and trying to do so would kill his mind.

Also you have a couple of Bullshit points in there you might want to fix.

>When he killed Arcueid, 17 cuts landed in "an instant".
>This is on the same level as 5th grail war Asassin's Tsubame Gaeshi. This is in fact canon. Non only that, but Arcueid was not able to notice she was being followed, nor feel any killing intent from Tohno until the blade already killed her. This is on the same level as asassin servant presence concealment.

>In the official Tsukihime manga, Shiki was capable of slicing and killing lightning shot at him by Roa. A low estimate of the speed required for this would land at 96,000MPH, which is the atmospheric discharge of lightning at denser levels (closer to lower altitudes.)

>It's good to take note here, that Servants are tied to the Akashic record in the throne of heroes, which is what allows them to be summoned in the first place. When shiki kills a servant, they can no longer be summoned. Sounds like just the kind of person Archer was looking for.

>Nrvnqsr Chaos the 10th apostle. In one attack Tohno managed to kill all 666 of his lives.
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>>100764445
>>100764583
>>100764817
You guys are joking right?
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>>100764471
Which is the true end route.
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>>100765023
That's not what Nasu said.
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>>100764445
>Servants > 27 Dead Apostle Ancestors
Close, but not exactly right. They're roughly considered equal for the most part. The 3 knight classes should have an advantage against DAA that rely on superior numbers. Likewise, you also have some DAA with such ridiculously high HP and defense that they can tank Excalibur. It should also be noted that the top 5 Dead Apostle Ancestors > Servants.
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>>100765216
What the fuck does he know? The TM-universe is better left to the community.
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>>100760715
>>100760199
If you actually read the VN there's really no way you'd be making that comment, you've clearly misjudged the tone of Tsukihime by trying to extrapolate from later TM.
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>>100764817
Killing all 666 of Nrvnqsr's lives isn't exactly an amazing feat given how the MEoDP works.

Stabbing the dot effectively revokes the existence of the target, losing all his lives was the result of Nrvnqsr essentially being deleted . Not the other way around.
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>>100765656

Did you quote the wrong person? i believe that was the one of the points that person was trying to get across?
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>>100765543

Word of God >>> Your shitty fanwank
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>>100765656
>>100765729

Providing context?
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>>100760199
Twilight didn't have people killing corridors with a frit knife grabbed off a nearby table, for one.
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F/Z
>War... War has changed...

F/SN
>Oh no, someone is trying to kill me! And the prom is tomorrow! What do I Doooo?

Seriously, even after reading the VN, I don't see why people prefer the story more than F/Z.
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>>100765920
Nasu can't write romance for dick, and the awkward trrn sex doesnot contribute to the story.

The idea of king arthur having sex with a teenage boy is the dumbest plot ever, and penis worms are a fucking joke.
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>>100766079
Nasu wrote the majority of F/Z you know?
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>>100765920
>>100766063

Le epixx bait maim xD
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>>100766100
And it wasn't romance for once, which is why it turned out well.

F/SN, however, was like an awkward first attempt of what the grail war should have been like, and by zero, he realized what he was doing.
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>>100766079
>>100766216

Debatable.
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>>100764817
He can see lines and dots on Gaia herself, an archetype and people directly connected to Akasha. He would definitely be able to see them on a servant.
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>>100765425
Nrvnsqr, who Shiki beat, was estimated to be able to tank any blow that wasn't strong enough to destroy a continent.
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>>100760199
>Gary Stu
You know that I actually want to reply seriously, but you should really know the actual meaning of that said word. Anyway, disregard anything OP said, OP still a faggot.
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>>100760199
>Why do people like things
Who knows.
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>>100760199
10/10 I mad
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>>100763260
Have another one.
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>>100767569
You're confusing that with Soil of Genesis. Nrvnsqr himself doesn't actually have that kind of durability.
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Dat mango ending.
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>>100760199
>Why do people like this again?

It doesn't really matter whether Tsukihime is shit or not. Anybody interested in the Nasuverse will probably end up reading it, if only for the world building aspect.
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Why do people like Nasu's works so much anyway?

He's a hack, and the only reason people defend him is because they still think people haven't read the VNs. As though reading VNs is obscure in 2014.
It's nothing more than POWERLEVELS and waifu faggotry. Allow me to simulate the Nasu experience.

>She was a perfect cook. Even though she was never warm to me, her eggs benedict betrayed her emotions.
>Her vagina was like a snail, climbing an eager tree.
>Surely, there was no way he could do this impossible task before him. But then he looked deep inside, and somehow he did.

And that's nasu in a nutshell.
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>>100779531
Now that, is a cool story bro.



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