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My favorite part of this anime is when two trained military personnel assigned to a high security mission decide to betray their country, throw away their careers, and risk their lives because a 12-year-old boy spent 5 minutes lecturing them about how Killing is Wrong. 10/10 GOAT series.
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He never lecture them about "killing is wrong", he actually ask them why they work for someone who don't care about them and would easily kill them at any second, which was legit, considering how usually such evil characters are evil for no reason and following their boss despite him being asshole.
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>>100760069
Oh okay, that explains everything. Too bad there weren't any 12-year-old boys around to try that with Stalin's troops eh?
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>freaks of nature
>military careers

Good joke.
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My favorite part of your post is that you don't even following what you are speaking about, you probably only read about it somewhere or heard about it from someone.
>GOAT
/v/, pls.
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>>100760174
You're looking for realism in a series where characters repent for killing innocents by saying sorry and feeling bad.
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What is it about Kimblee that made him so goddamn charismatic?
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>>100760174
you're looking for realism in a series where characters can shoot fire out of their hands thanks to magic circles
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>>100760373
The antennae
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>>100760373
The fact that he was the only character in the series who wasn't a nauseatingly idealistic dipshit?
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>>100760069
>>100760298
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>>100760373
He dresses properly.
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>>100760298
> you don't even following what you are speaking about
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These are the guys that Kimblee himself collapsed a fucking building onto, right?
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>>100760174

You're looking for realism in a series where a deadbeat dad tries to atone for abandoning his family by preventing the ascension of the anti-christ
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>>100759862
>throw away their careers
What career?
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>>100759862
Thanks OP, I'm gonna reread fullmetal.
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>>100759862
It probably didn't help that he dropped a bunch of shit on them, they're considered inhuman test subjects and expendable.
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>>100760558
Man, I loved 2003.
It's just a shame Shambala wasn't as good as the original ending.
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>>100760647
>>100760422
>>100760467
I hate this argument. It does no favors to the story you're trying to defend.

Also it confuses realism with plausibility and internal consistence.
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>>100760632
yes
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>>100760311
Doen't Monster and 20th Century Boys touch on that kinda subject too?
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>>100760830
I rewatched Shamballa and all I could think is how crap it was and wondering why I didn't remember how crap it was.
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>>100760069
>>100760632
>>100760799
You're thinking of the other pair of interchangeable chimera cronies, these guys get converted by Alphonse just because he and Scar were able to kick their asses.
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>>100759862
It really bothers me that there are NO state alchemists defending the capitol in the last few episodes.
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>>100760174
Stalin's troops didn't consider Stalin evil (or even that much of an asshole) by and large, and believed in the cause they were fighting for, regardless of their leader, that being the survival of their fucking homeland and families.
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>>100760669
Careers as disposable meat shields with no chance if ever doing anything else.
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>>100760977
I stopped watching Monster after the episode where Dr. Gary "Tenma" Stu convinces the terrorists to turn themselves in because he's just such a great guy.
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>12-year-old boy
Wasn't Alphonse like 14 by that point in time?
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>>100761107

Who the fuck cares its a troll thread
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>>100760892
But... >>100760311 and >>100760647 are shit for plausibility too.
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>>100760997
They're all dead.
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>>100761029
Isn't that usually how dictatorships usually work?
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>>100761185
I dunno, I think I'd forgive my dad if I found out that he left because he wanted to stop the anti-christ from coming back instead of dodging parental responsibility.
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>>100761029

Stalin's troops blamed their superiors, not the man in charge. How could they when they were all just farmers and laymen that never knew the reason why Russia got their shit pushed up to the outskirts of Moscow in the first place was because Stalin thought it was a great idea to purge all his senior commanders and subordinates.
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>>100761225
How?
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Top husbandos of FMA
1: Kimblee
2: Hughes ;_;
3: Greed
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>>100761406
Alchemy
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>>100761029
Stalin's troops were also fighting a demonstrably dangerous and nasty invading force as opposed to running around for really unclear reasons with a former war criminal who was released for seemingly no reason, on top of having been turned into were-animals against their will

I personally liked that so many of the peons in Fullmetal Alchemist seemed to have enough of a brain to think for themselves. The disposable henchman cliche is is so taken for granted that anything that flies in the face of it is kinda neat.
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>>100761406
Fuck, I dunno. I was just assuming. It is true that everyone was knocked around the country when he did that thing with the thing to get the God body.
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>>100761406
Scar was picking off a bunch of them.

Still no excuse for why they weren't there though.
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>>100761468

FMA is one of the few series where the rebelling army unit didn't end up as mincemeat cannon fodder. Everybody mattered to some extent.
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>>100761305
All troops in all wars blame their superiors for anything bad that happens to them, in and out of combat. It's just natural.

Still not grounds for treason.
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>>100761504

Well theoretically, its better to have a trained platoon on the field than a novice alchemist that could just cause even more chaos and property damage. And the only reason why alchemists became such a big threat in the first place was because of the holocaust gems - take those away and they become sniper food.
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>>100761563
More like
>HorribleMom.jpg
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>>100761504
By the end of the series every State Alchemist that had been featured was either dead or working for the good guys. And there was like, less than twenty in the first place. There's a reason they were treated like elite super soldiers.
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>>100761620
>holocaust gems

heh

>>100761742
I keep getting the bones anime and the manga facts mixed together.

I keep forgetting how few there actually were.
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>>100761562
Also when soldiers do commit treason, the catalyst usually isn't being lectured by a prepubescent boy.
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>>100761563
>you will never be a father like Hughes
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>>100761504
>one state alchemist certified per year, at most
>Scar goes around killing them off

>those white coats working underground? not alchemists no siree
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>>100761862
Good. I like being alive.
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Did you literally miss the whole part where Kimblee more or less turned them into horrible mutant freaks of nature and then proceeded to treat them like underling trash?
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>>100759862
>12-year-old
Wasn't Ed 16 at the time?
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thats just the RULES OF NATURE
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>>100761860
What about being the subject of inter-species experiments and then having having a war criminal collapse a building on top of you?
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>>100761860
the catalyst was actually them almost dying.

>>100761862
Speaking of fathers, boy did I feel like an asshole for misjudging Hoenheim.
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>>100761860
Most soldiers haven't been unwillingly turned into genetic freaks either.

unless that shit i read on the internet once is true
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>>100761908
>those white coats working underground? not alchemists no siree
Wasn't there only that one dude with the lazy eyes left after they turned the other scientists all into stone fuel?

Also they weren't army alchemists anyway.
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>>100762062
>the catalyst was actually them almost dying.
Almost dying isn't a good reason for treason either.

Now, intentional friendly fire is a bit more compelling of a reason.
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>>100762034
Fuck you red sun is better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbUHfbnDr_4
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>mfw I accidently switched from brotherhood to original somehow
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>>100762155

There was nothing friendly about that fire.
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>>100762155
Intentional friendly fire coupled with the fact that at the end, Ed was trying to warn and protect them.

With Al, I think it was that Jerzo and Zampano were working for the military because they saw it as the only way to get their original bodies back, whereas Al offered them the alternative and also enlightened them that the military is super corrupt and why would they de-power an animalistic soldier or something like that. When faced with proper evidence, you might switch sides based on who really stands for what you stand for.
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>>100762332
Holy shit I got so confused too.

I finished Tucker's arc then stopped watching for a while so I decided to start over from the beginning.

Got confused as to why Tucker was in the first episode.
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>>100763856
What? Tucker isn't in the first episode of either series.
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>>100764379
Ah my bad. It's been a while.

But he did show up earlier so that threw me off.
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>>100759862
Well, what's your favorite anime? I'm sure we could talk shit about it too.
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>>100766030
I dunno, hopefully there wasn't a part that was so cloying and dumb it made you want to stop watching!
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>>100759862
>country which experimented on them and made them freaks
>lol what career
>they were left for dead by Kimblee

Seems like it's just you who didn't understand stuff.



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