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>Teacher: Ok class, settle down because we have a brand new transfer student joining us today!
>Class: EEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHH?!
Bonus points if...
>Cute girl: Hajimemashite! Watashi wa (insert name here) desu! Yorushiku onegaishimasu! *bows*
>Guys: *faces turn red with steam spouting from their noses* WHOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAA!
>Girls: *swooning* AAAAAWWWWWWW! KAWAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!
>Teacher: Ok why don't you take that empty seat next to MC-kun?
>*seat is located near the far right corner next to the window*
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>>100739863
>Dry your hair when you get home or else you'll catch a cold!
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>>100739863
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE! REE! REE! REE! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>A main cast of 4 or so girls who all fit a different stereotype and don't do anything that doesn't involve fan service.
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>afterimages with mass
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>>100740069
cicada cicada cicada cicada cicada no coke pepsi
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>someone says something unreasonable/not SUNAO, so another character slaps them
>slapped character apologizes

When they slap back it's okay, but god I hate this trope. It's almost always girls getting slapped, too. Which is nonsensical, because if anyone tried that on an actual woman in Japan he'd be on the ground with a loafer or high-heeled shoe embedded in his face inside ten seconds.
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>>100740069
>>100740282
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSWDEXZdSoA
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>>100739863
>*hot spring/beach/group shower scene with a bunch of girls*
>girl with biggest tits walks in
>Friend of big tittied girl: Ara ara Titty monster-chan! I think your chest got even bigger!
>Titty monster-chan: W-what?! Really?!
>Friend of Titty monster-chan: Here! Lemme feel!
>*proceeds to molest the ever living shit out her*
>Titty monster-chan: AUGH! Y-YAMETE!
>Friend of Titty monster-chan: Sugoi! These are really...
>Titty monster-chan: KYAAAAAAA!

Are we supposed to believe that girls actually do this shit to each other IRL on a regular basis?
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>>100740681
Fanservice.
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>>100740681

>Are we supposed to believe that girls actually do this shit to each other IRL on a regular basis?

Because anime has always been about realism, right?
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>>100739863
>stating the obvious in greentext
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>I guess I'll have to use... THAT.
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>>100740681
Funny you bring this up since Nisekoi, the champion of cliches, ended up pulling that card two weeks ago.
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>>100741014

Is the Geyser supposed to be the MC cumming with the force of a thousand suns?
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>>100741092
No. Nisekoi's fanbase.
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>>100739990
My parents actually say similar shit as well so it's twice as annoying.
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>objectively best girl gets rejected by MC and is left alone and crying uncontrollably
>MC hooks up with objectively worst girl in the end
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>>100741277
Every harem anime ever. Though I'd rather have that then:
>Harem anime or manga has an open ending where...nothing changed from the start.
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>>100741277

Childhood friends never win.
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>>100740481
Is it saying "SHIKATA GA NAI DESSSU" over and over?
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>>100741370
I'd rather harem anime not exist in the first place. The only good harem anime are Tenchi Muyo and the Monogatari series. THAT'S IT.
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>>100741436
>I've seen 10 harem anime
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>>100741436

>Monogatari
>Harem

No.
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>>100741436
How can you not like Host Club.
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>>100741277
Pic related.

I think Nagisa's okay, but Tomoyo is still better to me
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>>100741398
Dammit Google
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>>100741513
Well to be fair, it is a supernatural occult detective fiction series DISGUISED as a harem comedy.
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>>100740918
This is awesome/hilarious when properly used, though.
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>>100741277
Still mad
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>>100741659

>DISGUISED as a harem comedy

No it's not. Not even close. Jesus fuck how new are you to anime?
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I hate how if there is a cute girl, all the passersby will stop, stare, comment, make noises etc etc
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>Character takes large amount of damage
>Close-up of their face as they cough up blood

>Female character gets punched in the stomach
>Drops like a brick

>"If I kill him, I am no better than him"
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>>100741761
>Female character gets punched in the stomach
>Drops like a brick

Like real life?
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>>100739990
>catch a cold

You mean "catch cold"
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>>100741649

>Imasugu Onii-chan ni Imouto da tte Iitai.

Only three chapters out so far though Anon.
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>>100739990
clannad colds are a very common thing in fictional japan
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>>100741779
No
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>>100741777
The problem is that it's always a girl
Also the fact that they become a damsel in distress afterwards
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>>100741561
Because Ouran High School Host Club is typical bishounen bullshit made to pander to fujoshis and yaoi-obsessed landwhales who frequent tumblr.
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>>100741841
Ok?

Thats what girls are for
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>>100740348
>Japan
>Implying the men wouldn't apologize for the woman's behavior.
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>someone dies in the first episode
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>loud as fuck stomach growl
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>harem anime
>mc is a naive faggot
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>>100741910
Have you never been hungry?
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>>100739863
>NEET somehow outwits government and military
I'm fucking looking at you Outbreak Company.
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>>100741968
That anime is great though. And its not like he was by himself he did have a magical kingdom on his side
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>>100741842
I wasn't aware tumblr was around in 2003.
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>>100741436
Haganai is good though

>>100741513
It has harem qualities but isn't a harem
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fanservice
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>>100742033
Keep in mind he's the one who came up with the damn idea in the first place. Shit like that just grinds me the wrong way. I must be a shill of the government or something who can't appreciate the successful struggle of the common underman.
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>>100741436
Kill yourself
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>>100742151
It's also just the Eleven government
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>>100742218

And they were really dumb.
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>>100742244
>were

Are
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When a male trips or falls into a girl's breasts CLEARLY by accident and he apologizes, is obviously sorry about it, but they proceed to beat the shit out of him..
Actually, that's something in anime that I hate in general. Women beating the shit out of guys for NO fucking reason. Like, holy shit, why would someone expect me to like a girl who abuses their partner and is a total cunt?
Are we supposed to find that attractive? Endearing? It's annoying and sexist.
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>>100742325
>sexist

tumblr pls
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>>100742325
>Women beating the shit out of guys
that just their way of saying "give me the D"
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>>100742218
>It's also just the Eleven government
I must have forgot to turn my "stop thinking and enjoy the cute girls damn it" button off. I can't help but think too much.
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>>100742325
I don't even mind that anymore.

It's when the girls expose themselves to the guy and they still get beat up that bothers me.

Sometimes it's lolparody but it's not like that makes it better.
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>>100742325

It's just cheap slapstick comedy, nothing to take so seriously.
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>>100742356
>i dont ahgree with what you said, so you're from tumblr xd

I don't even go on tumblr. Actually, I hate that place.
But saying that I dislike when females exploit the double standard that permits them the right to beat other up other people doesn't make me from tumblr.
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>>100742433
I'm just saiyan that its just a bunch of orientals dressed up in suits. Nothing special
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>>100742325

It's exaggerated for comedic purposes. Relax.
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>>100742325
That's always bugged me too, and why I dislike tsunderes unless done VERY well. It's demeaning to both women (SHRILL VICIOUS HARPIES) and men (CLUELESS CLUMSY RETARDS), and it very quickly ruins an anime for me.

>>100742356
To be fair, he might've been talking sexist against guys, which I don't think tumblr is even capable of comprehending. They have that retarded doublethink privilege thing so they probably don't even think it's possible.
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>>100742522
Its drawings, tumblr, chill out
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>>100742470
>>100742559

Yeah, I get that. I guess I just hate slapstick in general.
But it only seriously annoys me when it's obviously hurting the guy and it goes beyond cheap slapstick and just straight up abuse.
Like that Louise bitch from Tsukaima-whatever it's called. holy SHIT do I hate her.
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>>100742603
>Its drawings
You do know where we are right?
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>>100741277
This is why I will never pick up Aquarion EVOL, despite recognizing what great waifu material Zessica is.
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>>100742639
Yes, so you should know better
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>>100742613
>2006
>Still mad
that series was obviously aimed for an M audience

theres even a screenshot of him naked with whipmarks and lousie straddling him in a lewd manner
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>school festival arc
>beach vacation arc

if I had a nickel...
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>>100742603
This thread is about bitching over what we hate in anime. I have the right to get as butthurt as I want.
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>>100742061
But it's true. It still attracts that particular fanbase, and that particular fanbase usually frequents tumblr.
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>>100742699
But I'm not him, babe.
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>>100741277
Shuffle! was one of the fucking worst for this. God damn that ending was garbage
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Quick question.

If you guys hate all these cliches, why do you still purchase the series that unironically include them?
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>>100741597
Yeah Nagisa is too pure but not even near as good as Tomoyo/Kyou
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>>100742812
>/a/
>actually buying anime
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generic shit
>male protag
>surrounded by bargin bag "attractive" female characters who obviously wants to be fucked
>protag is oblivious to this fact while his male friends (who are only seen for 20 seconds every other episode to express the following) are very jealous and the next scene implies that protag is getting buttfucked or smacked around by said friends
>silent girl with glasses saying lewdest things without expressing anything
>ditzy girl who never stops smiling and blushes when people hold hands which is the lewdest act, and shes always late cause overslept and has toast in her mouth
>strict senpai with bigger tits than most, angry eyebrows
>tiny tsuntsun with blonde hair and angry eyebrows
>childhood friend who makes every other female character jealous
fuck i hate anime
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>>100742754
>right

No you have the privilege
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>>100742745
They're meant for fanservice. Japs love them some yukatas.

It can't be helped.
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>>100742812
>buying anime
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>>100742812
>purchase
I think most of these people that find these cliches shocking are to young to buy anything
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>>100741936
Not everyone's a poorfag who can't afford a grub, anon.
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>>100742812
>purchasing anime
I'm afraid you're on the wrong board, friend.
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>>100742812
I don't.
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>>100742812

Nigga, if we could easily leave things alone once we started to hate them, none of us would still be here posting on /a/.
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>>100742812
>implying
The only anime-related thing I've ever bought was the KnT LN, and it was a used copy. Anime BDs and DVDs are for Nips and weeaboos who buy overpriced goods.
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>>100742812
>purchase
>anime
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>>100742854
>>100742899
>>100742910
>>100742922
Fine. Why do the Japanese keep buying them, and you keep watching them?
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>The entire concept of a harem anime
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>>100742976

>implying i didn't drop the series after i saw that
>implying japs don't have shit taste
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I fucking hate shitty harems where all the drama stems from simple misunderstandings
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>>100742976
Elevens have really bad taste
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>>100742812

What if having a few shit cliches didn't necessarily making the show itself shit? And they aren't really that big a deal anyways?

Mindblowing I know.
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>>100742976

>Why do the Japanese keep buying them

It's well established on this board Japan has shit taste. Lurk moar, faggot
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>>100742470
>>100742559
But isn't ending the scenario with uppercuts and kicks every single time unimaginative writing and just parroting every Rumiko Takahashi work she has done for the past 35 years? At least in Urusei Yatsura when Ataru was beaten up, it was because he was a morally deplorable pervert who treated women like garbage and didn't give a fuck. Once you make the male NOT a huge prick, it rips out the heart and soul of the slapstick and makes the girl out to be an impulsive violent bitch and the male to be a pussy.
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>>100742976
Japanese, or more accurately socially awkward otaku, keep watching them because they have shit taste and no standards. We keep watching them because we get a kick out of trainwrecks, but when cliches become to prominent and unbearable we drop them.
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>Girls talk to MC for no particular reason every single day when he replies like a faggot everytime
That's not how life works
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>B-BAKA HENTAI!

Every tsundere ever.
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>>100743059

Any show that drags out a conflict over a dozen episodes when it could be resolved in a ten-minute conversation is awful, that isn't restricted to harems.
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>>100743008

people watch those?
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>>100742913
Not everyone's a fat as fuck americlap with diabetes
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>>100743145

>it rips out the heart and soul of the slapstick and makes the girl out to be an impulsive violent bitch and the male to be a pussy.

Which makes it easier for male otaku to self-insert.
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So did harem series cliches spread to other genres such as action/thriller/drama etc or were them taken from these and assembled into the thing we know as 'harem anime'?
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>>100739863
>school idols
>any idols at all
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>>100741779
Both are correct.
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>>100743308
Harem genre is crafted entirely from the ground up to sell merchandise

You can pack 6-12+ girls in one show, hit all the tastes of the customers and almost guarantee there will be at least one girl they like
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>>100743288
>can afford his food
>must be fat as fuck with diabetes
Hue
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Bland ass MCs.
See: every fucking show with a clear MC.
Very few exceptions exist. Nanoha is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.
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>>100743200
So how come nobody has dropped Nisekoi yet? Or Bleach? Or any of the other dozens of shitty anime that only get by through fanservice (like anything produced by XEBEC)?

Hmm?

Hmmmmmmm?
HMMMMMMMMM?
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>girls bring up romance and sex all the time
>each and every anime girl goes into "stop raping me" mode anytime a guy mentions sex or liking them
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>>100743424
Only a fat cunt would be this obnoxious
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>MC shows the slightest bit of human decency
>acquires harem
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>>100739990
Actually, some people do get colds like that pretty easily. It's the same reason why you don't soak in the rain without drying yourself off.
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sdfgsdg >moyes test
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>>100743436

>Very few exceptions exist. Nanoha is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.

So you admit that you're new to anime.
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>>100741277
inverted trope with haganai
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>>100743584
>doesn't have shit standards
>YOU MUST BE NEW

Another one just came to me, Hibiki from symphogear.

I've watched over 200 series, not counting second/third/fourth seasons.
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>UMI DA!!

>MC opens unlocked door
>KYAA HENTAI
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>>100743663
>200 series
>impressive
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>>100743663
How do you define a "bland ass MC?" That kind of category is subjective.
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>>100743470
O omnipresent anon, will we ever get S&W s3?
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sfgvsdgsdfg >moyes
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>>100743663
That's not a lot. You're new in spirit by being predictable and swinging your 4-inch dick as though it's impressive.
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>>100743663
>over 200

Watch out everyone.
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>>100743746
>>100743801
>>100743844

It's not supposed to be impressive. I'm not bragging, I'm just saying that I'm not new to Anime, fucking retards. Reading comprehension.
>>100743749
If I've seen him two or three times before in other anime.
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>>100743494
>he's fat because I say so
Poorfags are truly the most retarded.
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>>100743897
But you still act like you are new.
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fgsdfgsdfgsdfg >moyes
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>>100743897

>If I've seen him two or three times before in other anime.

Are you really trying to complain about archetypes?
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>>100743983
>having standards is acting new
lel
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>>100743423
Yeah but I'm trying to understand the chronology behind harem. Were they created as we already know them or did they take many of its known cliches from other series that weren't an harem but had romance/sabisu?
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>>100744044

Being a retard autist isn't having standards.
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>>100743897
>not new
>If I've seen him two or three times before in other anime.

You sure?
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>>100743527
No shut the fuck up. You literally have no idea what you're talking about and just made that shit up.
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>>100744043
No, I'm complaining about carbon copies, which vary only in appearance.
>>100744122
>look I've consumed so much generic shit
Good for you buddy. I drop shit shows.
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>>100744105
What if they evolved together?
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>>100739863
I'll just leave this right here.
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>>100740348
>so another character slaps them
I liked how they dealt with this in Tiger & Bunny. Barnaby just got confused and even angrier when Kotetsu slapped him, which is how I think most people would react to being slapped in real life.
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>>100743663
I can't even begin to put into words what a huge faggot you are.
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>>100744197
How do you drop shit shows yet have watched over 200 series?
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>>100743663
>>100743436
Are you saying that only females can be good MCs?
There's plenty of bland female ones too.
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>>100741787
14 are out if you can into Chinese
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>>100743470
The fuck are you talking about, anon? I never picked up Bleach so how can I drop it?
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>>100744197
How the fuck does not dropping shows equal more exposure to non-generic MCs? Your arguments are petulant and bizarre. Just stop. Go away for today and watch a good anime.
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Vibrating eyes.
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>>100744208
>because you don't have friends
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>>100743897
>>100744044
>>100744197

>I've watched over 200 series
>having standards
>drop shit shows

So if we take what you're saying as is true, that you drop shit shows, but you've seen over 200 of them, then what you're saying is that you have shit taste.
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>>100742325
Well, it's better than sitting there awkwardly
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>>100744325
That's because you're retarded.
>>100744354
If I didn't drop shows, my count would probably be far over a thousand.
>>100744364
Oh of course. There are good male MCs too, and shit terrible female ones.
>>100744412
>non generic MCs
Let's sum up the argument so far.
>you're new because you only see the same MC two or three times
>i drop shit shows so I don't see same MC 30-80 times
>ur stupd
Why do people lack reading comprehension?
>>100744508
Still better than yours.
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>character says "hambahgah"
>subs say "salisbury steak"
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>>100742805

Shit pissed my 13 year old self off to no end.
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>>100744608
How about you name some examples of the bland MCs that you hate so much instead of just being a namecalling retard.
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>>100744608

>Still better than yours.

Clearly it's not if you consider that there are around 200 animes out there worth watching.
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>>100744608
Wait, you are him in the flesh?
>>100743844
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>>100744702
Noticed how they're eating Salisbury steak and not a hamburger, though?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salisbury_steak#Around_the_world
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anego, aneki etc = sissy
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>>100744746
But there are so many and I don't remember all of their non memorable names.
>>100744778
Just because I watched it doesn't mean I consider it to be worth watching.
>>100744782
Shit, you caught me. How did you know?
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>>100744746
Not that anon but
MC of Fate/Stay
MC of Angel Beats
MC of EVA
They all look so forgettable
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>>100744608
>If I didn't drop shows, my count would probably be far over a thousand.
Are you bragging now?
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>>100744875
You're full of shit if you can't name examples.
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>>100741512
Name a good harem then. And don't embarrass yourself like the retard tripfag.
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>>100744890
>MC of EVA
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>villain dies by one ridiculous hit
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>>100744915
No, stating a fact. It's less than what I would like.
>>100744949
I'd be full of shit if I could, because if I remembered their names, then obviously they weren't bland and forgettable.
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>>100745041
We are still waiting for your example of a good everything, dear Gilles Poitras
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>"i-impossible!"
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>>100745007
Shinji is well known because EVA got pretty big
But if this was at the time when EVA was first released, I wouldn't be able to pick him out from a line-up
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>friendship punch
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>>100744890
>>100745041
You're basing it solely on appearance? You're damn shallow. I bet you think this is Kirito.
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>>100740481
I hate lol so randum xD shit like the end of this scene.
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>>100744875

>Just because I watched it doesn't mean I consider it to be worth watching.

Now you're back to contradicting yourself. If it's not worth watching, then it's a shit show. If it's a shit show, then like in your earlier statement, you would've dropped it.

You can't even keep your own opinion straight, let alone your sexual orientation, faggot.
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>>100745171
I guess that makes sense.
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>>100745171
I don't think many anime directors had the balls to make the male MC of a 1996 anime a complete opposite of the man up and break shit stereotype. Even if not the best MC, which he isn't, he is basically the first popular faggot.
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>>100741277
>murican doors
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>repeat slapstick from a different angle multiple times
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>>100745352
nice one, good meme :)
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>"Ok group of female MCs and F cup extras you must do erotic poses in swimsuits today/something that will fanservice"
>kawaii desu sugoi chans: "HAIIIIIIII"
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>>100745138
>Rozen Maiden MC
>All shonenshit MCs (big 3, blue exorcist, etc)
>All haremshit MCs (Fate/, Rosario vampire, shuffle, that one shitty magic kingdom bullshit from last season)
There's more, but I really don't care.

>>100745281
Solely on personality.

>>100745289
You know, when I started out I was like everyone else in that I didn't know what was shit and what was good.
This much should have been obvious to anyone who's not a retard.
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>>100745397
Thanks, it's oc so don't steal please :D
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>>100745489
>can't remember the names
>Fate/ is a VN mate
You aren't Gilles Poitras you faggot
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>>100745489
>All shonenshit MCs (big 3, blue exorcist, etc)
>All haremshit MCs (Fate/, Rosario vampire, shuffle, that one shitty magic kingdom bullshit from last season)
He said GOOD examples.
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>>100745489

>You know, when I started out I was like everyone else in that I didn't know what was shit and what was good.

And you still don't.
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>>100745489
pervert MCs are the worst.
Bland character coming with free extra second hand embarrassment
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>>100745613
Says the faggot who can barely read.
>>100745611
GOOD examples of BAD MCs.
>>100745604
How could I? They're so bland and boring.
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>>100745751
>bland and boring.
Why? You're not explaining yourself fully.
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>>100745824
Cookie cutter MCs that are a dime a dozen.
Also, being beta and retarded doesn't help.
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>>100745751

>Says the faggot who can barely read.

Says the tasteless pleb.
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>>100745751
I asked for good examples of what you think it's good you Poitras faggot impersonator
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>Character says something kind of dickish but not really
>Every character and their mom lashes out at him/her tells him what a horrible person he is
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Haremfags are so fucking defensive.

Yet I don't think I've ever seen them give examples of "good" Harem MCs.
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>Attractive/cute girl gets character development
>Marks it by cutting her long hair short
Bonus: She's massively less attractive/cute with short hair
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>>100739863
Transfer student introduction is so glaringly overused I'm surprised how people can continue to use it unironically.
I keep waiting for a transfer student to show up and then be completely irrelevant for the entire story. The only time I remember seeing that was Makai no Ossan.
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>>100746026
Yamato the Tactician
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>>100745909
Better no taste than shit taste like yours.
>>100745934
Oh no, my cover is blown.
Kraft Lawrence was pretty good.
Houin Kyouma was decently funny.
Lain, of course.
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>>100746026
Who said anything about harems.
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>>100742325
Shit, there is nothing fucking funny about this I don't even know why they do it anymore.
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>>100745907
Being beta doesn't entail or preclude being bland. Neither does being alpha.
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>>100746203

>Better no taste than shit taste like yours.

If you have no taste, then your opinion is worthless.
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>>100746026
There are only enjoyable harem leads, usually the ones that play around with his harem. They're still shit, just watchable.
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>>100746203
Okabe Rintarou is based on a Visual Novel.
Come on Poitras you saw 200 series, you HAVE to be a little less retarded than that.
Lain? Explain.
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>>100746029
Hanekawa looks so much better without those gaint braids and the giant glasses.
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>>100746243
True, but bland and beta MCs piss me off more than just bland MCs.
>>100746258
Then what's your opinion worth? Less than nothing?
>>100746323
I'm well aware of that. What's your point, Spice & Wolf is an anime too.
Lain from Cereal Experiments Lain.
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>>100746213
Sorry, carry on.
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>>100746350
There are exceptions to everything.
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>>100742805
I believe I had shit taste when I watched Shuffle! >implying I don't still have shit taste, but I don't remember hating the ending too much. Was it that bad? I liked Asa, who was supposed to win in your mind?
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>>100742325
In Working! (manga, I've heard the anime portrays it differently) the girl who keeps hitting people basically has mental issues and it actually makes her life more difficult.
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>>100746385
Light Novel you Poitras faggot.
I know which Lain you are talking about, but since it's the only Non-Other source material and actual anime-only personality I want to know how you reached that conclusion
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>a squad of enemies to fight
>name and design taken off Four Gods Seiryu, Suzaku, Byakko, and Genbu
alternatively
>modern take on the Three Kingdom/ Sengoku Period
>character take on historical figure's name but are girls
get some fucking creativity Japan
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>>100746469
Stop mentioning Poitras. You're sullying his good name with this faggot.
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>>100746385

>Then what's your opinion worth? Less than nothing?

Who's the one with reading comprehension problems now? Obviously my opinion is worth than yours, this has been an established fact since we've begun conversing.

You who knows nothing is worth less than I who understands where my tastes, and opinions stand.
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>>100746469
Nigger what's your point? It was made into an anime. Does having source material make it unsuitable for an example? Are you going to ban series based on manga too?
I liked Lain because she was fucking different.
>>100746568
But the established fact was that I have no taste, and you have shit taste. Assuming good taste would be an opinion worth a positive value, my opinion is worth nothing, and your opinion is worth less than that.
Don't tell me you're retarded in both math and english.
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>voice over goes Last Name First Name
>subtitle goes First Name Last Name or uses the First name when the voice clearly says Last Name
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>>100746558
>>modern take on the Three Kingdom/ Sengoku Period
>>character take on historical figure's name but are girls
>get some fucking creativity Japan
I liked Oda Nobuna no Yabou
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>>100746097
I'm pretty sure ONE makes an active effort to subvert most of these. The only one I can recall him using is getting a cold for being out in the rain.
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>>100746558
>Samurais and turning everything into little girls
>Two of Japan's favorite shit combined into one

You rike it? Because you're going to be seeing it for a while.
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>>100746690
You claim to know your shit yet the only thing you say is that you liked characters who people already KNEW they were decent before the anime showed up.
Poitras, get a grip, a dictionary, a couple balls, and go home and be a family man.
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>>100742976
Usually if I see some of these things I drop the series.
I don't know what the fuck is wrong with Japanese people.
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>>100746690

>Don't tell me you're retarded in both math and english.

Not everything equates to numbers you autist.

Let me spell it out for you more clearly since clearly it's too much for your brain to analyze.

Someone that understands the medium enough to realize where his tastes stand, has an opinion worth more than a person who doesn't understand anything.
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>>100746707
I LOVED it. Goemon is a qt
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>Arbitrary RPG stats

I really wish they would stop this.

And not to mention the recent popularity of that archetypal Dragon Quest shit with the Hero and Maou and shit. It's getting old.
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>>100746794
And why is that relevant to this conversation?
A good character is a good character.
>>100746877
That's true, so logically my opinion is worth more than your.
I don't see how you're pulling this bullshit out of your ass. If you're this much of a dumbfuck, you clearly don't understand anything, let alone the medium.
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>>100739863
>fanservice every chance it gets
>you're a virgin aren't you MC-kun?

>MC: huh?
>JUST PRESS THE BUTTON MC
>MC: wah?
>THE RED BUTTON, MC PLEASE PEOPLE ARE DYING
>MC: Is this a dream? This must be a dream

>MC is a extreme SJW
>MC has no real set personality so people can "self-insert"
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>You're 100 years too early to challenge me!
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>>100741841
Girls in anime are always OP compared to dudes. Just look at all the beta MCs and stuff like D-frag.
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>>100746981
Go get em Poitras
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How about we list some good MCs?
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>>100747256
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>>100746981

>That's true, so logically my opinion is worth more than your.

If you want to go back and argue in circles with that terrible comeback that a 4 year old could come up with, then please do enjoy yourself: >>100745613

I'll be going now seeing as you clearly have nothing better to say. Try again after you grow a brain, and your opinion is worth something. Tootles.
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>>100747256
My waifu, for one.
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>>100746982
Buddy Complex 2 had a bit of the second one.

>Activate the coupling Aoba! Just say "Dio Coupling."
>Huh? Wait, you're Dio aren't you?
>Do the coupling already we're getting our shit ruined out here! Just say "Dio Coupling!"
>Hinamori said you'd be waiting for me! Just who are you Dio?
>JUST DO THE COUPLING YOU MISERABLE TWAT. "DIO COUPLING"
>How do you do it again?
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>>100741277
Ichigo 100%
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>>100747193
Thanks brah.
>>100747371
Bye. Next time then. Try not to leak butthurt like you did this time and we'll have a great time.
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>>100747256
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>>100741398
Wrong
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>>100747256
Watashi is objectively the best female MC
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>>100739863

Girls that sing and bring alien races to a screeching halt

Beta-tier guys

Harems

Cute mascot animals

Lolis

Sparkles

Catgirls

Script armor

Moronic villains
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>>100747490
I can agree with this.
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>>100747426
See, now I'd agree with you, but Nishino isn't worst girl. That's Toujou's spot.

Fucking hell though Manaka, how could you not get with Satsuki you prick?
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>>100741777
That's not necessarily true, Anon.
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>>100739863
>shit I hate in anime
Either Overly powerful characters with extreme weaknesses or mary sues
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>>100743663
anon, you should know that you have pleb, shit, awful taste if you don't watch half the shows every season.

On /a/, taste is established by watching lots and lots of truly awful shows.
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>>100746029
>>100746350
Hanekawa does look better with her hair short, but Senjougahara cutting her hair made me REALLY sad. Her hair was so long and pretty.
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>>100748098
Agreed completely, and the worst part is that the long hair was pretty much the only thing that separated her in looks from Suruga.
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>>100748226
Huh.

Well that was easy
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>>100741761
>If I kill him, I am no better than him
Do they still do this in battle shounen nowadays?
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>>100748311
Not in Bleach anymore, it's just straight kill your enemy.
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The thing in anime I despise with a burning passion is when a female character catches the love interest in a awkward/cheating/whatever situation that can actually be easily explained. But instead of just explaining the circumstances the guy just doesn't say anything. PRIME EXAMPLE: The familiar of Zero episode 30 something, MC goes to ball looking for his girlfriend. He doesn't know that the ball involves everyone using magic to change their appearance to other people as a game, he kisses the wrong girl because she is disguised as his girlfriend. Magic soon wears off, surprises all around. His actual girlfriend sees him kissing some random girl, promptly freaks out. Later she asks him to explain what the fuck happened, but instead of telling her the disguise thing he just fucking sits their like a tard ass...WHYYYYYY
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>>100747772
The only thing that's worse is overly powerful characters with no weaknesses.
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>>100747256
Zwei from Requiem for the Phantom. Any other niggas feel me?
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>>100748686

Why are you hating on strong independent MCs who don't need no women?
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>>100748486
You've clearly never tried to explain anything to an angry women. Logic, truth, facts, NONE of it has any effect.
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>>100746029
Just a reminder that long hair Aika a shit
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>Huge cast of interesting characters
>MC ends up with worst girl
I don't even know why I watch anime, cause this is pretty much all of them.

also
>full, interesting season of anime
>season ends without really having any closure or ending
>no second season

I have become more a of a manga read in recent years for this very reason.
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>>100745002
Love Hina
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>>100744269
Fuck, I might have to download this just for that.
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>>100746026
Araragi
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>>100747256
Pic related
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>>100739990
My mom always said I would pneumonia if I had wet hair.

As for this thread: that shit where they stick one of their arms out all dramatically as their sort of falling.
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>>100752330

He is worst than a naruto character.

All he is made off is "Hurr durr am doing every trope backwards i am so alpha look at me beta huur duur"

Thats all he is, same shit kenshiro, just a faggot who people think it is something because it reverses a trope.
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>>100741277
I read School Days after i finish any harem manga.
It helps.
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>>100745021
One Punch Man is great man, I don't know what the fuck you're thinking
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>>100752727
Who do you think wrote the comment? Saitama is pissed that everyone dies in one hit when he doesn't hold back.
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>>100742863
dont forget
>lewd sister
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>>100752921
Being the strongest being in the universe is suffering.
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>Girl confesses to guy
>He didn't hear her
>"What did you say?"
>"N-nothing!"

I'm fucking looking at you Nisekoi.
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>it's totally impossible to defeat him, he has no weak point
>except...that weak point!
>OF COURSE!

>one character is all broody
>"you can't live your life defending the weak if you never brutally kill a criminal who is on his knees begging for his life, you're far too weak!"
>"no I am not, I have friends."
>proceeds to defeat broody edge-master in battle
>"maybe you're right, my incredibly flawed philosophy that I have lived my entire life by has been changed in just this moment because you smacked me on my ass so hard I fell down."
>he proceeds to become the MC's friend

>MC spends 6 years not being able to tell a girl he loves her
>she automatically returns his love full force when he finally does
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>>100742910
>find these cliches shocking
So the only way to hate something is if it's new and shocking? Got it.
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>>100742976
Nippon make great cartoon, but Nippon enjoy bad cartoon.
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>>100753091
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>1-cour anime thats meant to have a complex plot
>Shitty pacing and rushes the ending
Happens far more often than it should. I wish Japan would learn that complex plots need at least 2-cours to allow for breathing space. Hell sometimes they need more than that.
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>>100753210

No, it's feasible if you manage time

Maybe they should stop wasting screentime in a 1-cour with scenes of characters talking about nothing, drinking tea, or loitering
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>>100753112
>normal shitty girl MC has had a crush on since yesterday
>his childhood friend has a great body, tomboy personality, and tries to help him confess to girls he likes
>finally meets and becomes friends with bland-shit girl MC has crush on
>turns to her, tears in her eyes but smile on her face, telling the bland-shitgirl "I won't lose!" before running off into the sunset
>bland girl doesn't know what she is talking about
>best girl childhood friend loses hard

>filler episode about side characters
>they're the most boring shits
>entire episode is terrible

>MC has stupid hair and stupid glasses and acts like a little retard
>acts like a rude fucker to everyone and whines and cries like he's four
>people still hang around with him despite literally the only thing he does is whine and bitch and be stupid
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>>100753364
I don't think you understand what I meant by complex plot....
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>Great chinese cartoon season
>No follow-up season
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>>100739863
>Teacher: Ok why don't you take that empty seat next to MC-kun?
You know, I imagine that every time they do this in a series, when they hear they have a new transfer student, about 5 minutes before the new student comes in, the teacher would go over to the person sitting next to MC and tell them that they have a cute new transfer student coming in in 5 minutes and she has to seat next to MC-kun.
This person is reluctant and looks like they's about to protest, but they know better than to occupy the seat next to MC when a cute new girl just transferred. So they pick up their stuff and drag their feet across the floor to the other side of the room.

This person will later turn out to be an antagonist and they will wonder just why would they ever have a grudge against such a lovable new transfer student.
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>>100742325
I'd like to see a role reversal of this.

Shame it never happens.
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>>100753594
It would have been good if he knew all along and he was just trying to train them to fucking repeat what they said.
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>>100753622
A female MC falling into a man's dick?
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>>100753679
Yeah and boys always beating up the girls.
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>Beach episode

>school festival
>"Should we do a haunted house or a maid café?"
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>>100753364
No, hes right. Most times a story driven 1-cour has had good pacing, it was because its story wasnt that complex or demanding to begin with.
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>>100753679

If a girl headbutted my dick, i wouldn even be able to fight back, the thing is sensible yo.
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>>100753198
I only watched 10 episodes of this shit show and I knew what was going on this scene.
I nearly lost my shit when he opened that door.
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Anyone mention the awkward bath scene where the MC ends up getting slapped for no reason yet?
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> Panty shots
> Pointless innuendo that has nothing to do with plot
> Slice of life
> Character's being randomly oblivious to others feelings/intentions
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>>100739863
>Teacher: Ok class, settle down because we have a brand new transfer student joining us today
>Class: Ok
>Teacher: Not excited or surprised?
>Class: Not really
>Black guy: Sup niggas, name's Omar. *throws up sign language*
>Teacher: Ok why don't you take the empty seat next to MC-kun?
And thus begins the story of how MC befriended a gangster from the hood to learn to become streetwise.
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>>100754606
>And thus begins the story of how MC befriended a gangster from the hood to learn to become streetwise.
So... Durarara?
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>>100754783
Did Durarara teach you how to break into cars and steal shit?
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>>100746948
>Arbitrary RPG stats
Fuck you, those LOG Horizon threads are fun.
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>>100754861
No, but it teaches you how to deal with street punks and beat the living shit out of them.
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>>100753112
>It was a ruse all along with the villian pretending to be friends to learn more about MC's weaknesses.
>Towards the end of the series he betrays them and proceeds to kick the ever living shit out of MC after studying his ways
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>>100741513
>several girls want to bone MC
>not harem
Whatever the fuck you say.
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>>100747654
Yeah, I agree. Fucking hell. Satsuki was so best girl it hurt. Like seriously, what the fuck. I'm so mad now. Fuck everything. The wound is still deep.
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>>100744208
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>Little sister was a Demon/witch/alien/whatever the series is about all along yet the MC never knew those things existed
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>Parents punishing their kids in ridiculous ways, like locking them outside at night and letting them get harassed by wildlife.
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>>100744208
He then proceeds to befriend the villain, who will job seriously hard for the rest of the series.
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>harem
>girl X is practically begging for the D
>MC starts acting so beta it hurts to watch

i think its suppose to be funny but it just makes me mad.
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>>100755818
To be fair, Momo's power is the hardest one to notice and her mundane weirdness actually exceeds her supernatural weirdness.
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>>100756056
Doesn't make it any less bullshit
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Has there ever been an oblivious faggot MC that gets NTRd in non-h?
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>>100739863
>first season antagonist is defeated effortlessly at the beginning of the second season by new antagonist even when he was the bestest of the world before being defeated by MC
This shit is ridiculous and just makes me lose interest in a series for its lack of decency.
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>>100747490
Coincidentally, Watashi is also objectively the best male MC.
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>>100741597
wow, you have very common tastes
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>>100741277
>implying spontaneous combustion end isn't the true end to Strawberry Panic
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>Every student in the school has normal black/brown hair color
>The main cast coincidentally has bright and noticeable pink, green, blue, orange, blonde hair

I completely understand why they do it, too, but it still annoys me somewhat.
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>>100758500
>Utena
Though this may be a matter of perspective in-universe.
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>>100758500
What I hate is when a show not only does this, but pretends like their hair color is a completely ordinary color.

Don't bug me about the quality of the screencap, I just looked up a youtube video really quick.
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>>100741926
To Love Ru in a fucking nutshell
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>>100742883
That file name
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>eeetooo annnoooo etoooooo annnnooooooo eeeetoooooo
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>>100761157
>That file name
You best be trolling nigger.
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Watch Nisekoi. It has everything I hate about anime. Every single horrible and overused cliche.
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Comedic violence.
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>>100761408
Who hasn't been exposed to the garbage that is Nisekoi at this point?
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>It can't be helped.
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>recap episode
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>all fight scenes composed entirely of stock footage from previous episodes
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>>100762344
>skip recap episode
>next episode starts off somewhere that doesn't make sense
>the recap episode has relevant clips every five to ten minutes so you don't skip it
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>>100748226
ah haaa what anime is this
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Extremely dense MCs when the girls are throwing themselves at him.
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>>100762555
>HEHE I'VE GOTTA GO NOW!
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>Call me just Hanako, instead of my family name.
>A.. ohh.. ehh... ettto... anoo... eh... ha...ha ... MURIMURIMURI how about Hanako-san

>Incest ... errhm, nope, we're just cousins/adopted so it's awwwright.
>parents approve

Also, engrish, and any portrayal of gaijins in general.
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>>100762505
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>it's always obvious what girl is going to win

>it's usually the first main girl shown

It's safe to assume no other girl has a chance most of the time. Fucking lazy writers.
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>MC in a shonen series goes berserk and transforms into some crazy monster
>beats the shit out of the big bad and his minions at the cost of his humanity
>lead heroine stops him by hugging him while saying "That's enough MC-kun!"
>MC goes back to normal
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>>100762555
But he knew those bitches wanted the d but he just wanted friends and to ensure that the club stayed together.
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>MC drinks from a water bottle
>sexy, flirty, slutty love interest takes it and drinks from it too
>other girls look at her mortified
>"I-INDIREKUTO KISSU?!"
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>>100762899
I'm almost 100% sure you were thinking specifically of Kill la Kill when you were typing this.
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>>100763179
>implying Kill la Kill is the only series to pull that card
So, you've only watched like ten series I take it?
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>>100763179
No, I think it was Bleach.
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>fighting
>stomach grumbles
>"I'll cook you a meal"
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>>100763179
>>100763241
Actually I was thinking Blue Exorcist.
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>>100763235
That episode was like a month ago. It was the most recent example in memory, and the scene goes word for word how you described it, so I figured that was what you were thinking of. My mistake, then.
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>>100763436
>the scene goes word for word how you described it
>beats the shit out of big bad
That doesn't happen.

And Mako made a speech instead of a half-assed "That's enough!"
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>Fucking pervert ape
>Does nothing worth of praise
>Does not real effort or its very mediocre and such powerup it not deserved
>Not event his power, it's borrowed from some legenary shit
>Get shit done after his party is wrecked
>Females throw theirs asses at him, and their families see nothing wrong with it
>Never stops to think how almost everyone could have died and instead acts like some horny chimpanzee
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>>100762555
DID YOU FINISH THE SEASON? Kodaka best MC
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>>100761840
Actually that comes from "shouganai" which is very prevalent and an relatively important part in Japanese culture.
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>I want to protect that smile...
THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?!
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>>100763619
It means you want to do everything in your power to keep that person from becoming sad or upset, you fucking baka.
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Any cool anime where the protag is a badass like Rance?

Note I say like Rance, not like Kenshiro. Kenshiro is a different type of badass. I'm talking more like the borderline-edgy wisecracking sort of badass.
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>>100741698
This. Holy fuck, why would he choose the girl with 0 screen time. It makes no sense.
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>>100754930
I'm sure they were anon. But that's justified considering LOG Horizon is about a game.

I'm talking about those stats charts showing up when it makes no sense. Like in Code Geass.
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>>100763179
>post specifically states MC is a him
>must be klk since it has a male mc

on topic
>MC getting ass kicked
>hit multiple times by attacks or magic shit
>keeps standing up and the only injuries you see are those black lines japs use and that he has one eye closed
>speech, asspull powerup or friendship
>defeats enemy in 1 shot
i dropped fairy tail every single natsu fight was this shit
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>>100763791
But the desire to protect something is, at the same time, none other than the wish for something to violate it.
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>>100752600
You're trying too hard.
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>>100763791
>You fucking baka
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>>100763505
Highschool DxD?
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>>100739863
> not
>> Protag-kun: HEY THAT'S THE GIRL WHO BUMPED INTO ME ON MY WAY TO SCHOOL
>> Class: EHHHHHHHHHHHHH???
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Green hair.

There are some chicks I like that have green hair, but for whatever reason, it just breaks immersion anytime I see it. It definitely stands out.
Not trying to diss any waifus of course.
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>>100741968
But the government was acting on those tropes without even knowing, of course MC would have the upper hand.
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>>100753594
Is that a PS Move Controller?
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>someone is tied up (hands, chest, ankles)
>MC grabs both sides of the rope and pulls in order to free them
>the ropes don't snap their bones or crush their bodies in the process
This always bothered me. An equal force perpendicular to the direction of the saviors hands is going to be applied to both sides of the victim until the ropes are parallel with each other (think of a rectangle). The perpendicular force is enough to snap bones and easily cave in rib cages.
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>>100766946
why does mc have two left hands
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>first minute of first episode spoils the final
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>>100765617
Oh goddammit I forgot about that.
Bonus points if girl is "YOU'RE THE PERVERT WHO LOOKED AT MY PANTIES!"
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>i accidentally touch this other gurls private parts
>gurl that likes me sees this
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>>100739863
So you hate pretty much just hate anime then?
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>>100768767
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>>100740681
>>100741908
>>100742103
>>100743436
>>100743495
you guys must hate HOTD
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>>100747435
Poitras you got a lot of time on your hands
you could've stopped half way through and at least pretend you had better things to do
but instead you decided "i think i'll be an insufferable pleb"
anon....... im am dissapoint
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>a nation/facton's elite forces are all comprised of teenagers with colorful hair and really stupid, unique clothing.

Pic related, it's basically the same idea.
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>co-ed school
>90% of the students are girls

I can understand this when it's explained that the school just turned co-ed, but it happens all the fucking time.
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>MC is in berserk mode
>love interest begs and hugs MC to calm the MC down
>MC realizes the errors of his/her ways
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Since when is *action* acceptable on /a/?
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>two characters talking two each other
>one of them is a new character the viewer has never seen
>the other character calls him/her by his/her full name, complete with profession

I'd rather they'd just used popups with the character info written on them.
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>>100753091
>trains runs by
>fireworks explode
Every time.

>>100744269
Not to mention Kotetsu did it because he himself was wrong. It was a defensive reaction that just made everything worse.
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Romance scenes
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>>100763995
>i dropped fairy tail every single natsu fight
>every single natsu fight
>every
You're aware that dropping a show means to stop watching it right?
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>>100742325
Pic related. This shit is only acceptable if the guy is portrayed to have obvious mental issues and zero self-esteem and the girl is batshit crazy.
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>>100739863
>MC sees, hears, thinks, or does something accidentally
>MC apologises
>Girl(s) become hysterical and attack in mass
>No-one even bothers to hear him out
>MC feels guilty and takes said beating anyway

I guess in Japan the old thing of "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't exist. Also, what the fuck is up with the prudishness of characters? Does Japan even have sex education?
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>>100753091
reflects reality
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>he loves her but she doesn't know
>she loves him but he doesn't know
>25 eps of MISUNDERSTANDINGS

even worse
>MC and FeMC hate each others' guts
>they still keep spending lots of time together, fighting and insulting each other
>side-character "I see you're getting along well as usual!"
>they "Get real!"
>they get together in the end
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>>100739863
>MC thinks something
>he somehow says it out loud
This bothers me so much, how is that even possible?
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>>100773771
>I dropped fairy tail
>every single natsu fight was this shit
Do you understand now? Finish reading the whole sentence before you act like a poncey fagboy
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>>100774098
Nisekoi. Easy.
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>>100741597
Seconded
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>>100773114
I don't know but it needs to stop
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>>100763179
Inuyasha seems more analogous.
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>>100773090
If dat image refers to Attack on Titan, then you're a fucking tard..if you watched the episode Eren tries to SUPER MURDER Mikasa, and it's actually Armin that makes him come to his senses, buy latching onto his back and stabbing him through the arm with his sword to wake his ass up.
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>>100753091
>he hears her
or
>she repeats it

So much anime, and absolutely none of them do either of the above.
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>>100775885
He said nothing about Mikasa, he specifically said that the love interest does it.
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>>100742755
Except Ouran existed long before Tumblr was even dreamt of, you moron.
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>>100753737
Somehow I knew that's what you meant.

Die.
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>>100740681
women do actually compare bust sizes, just with eyes though. they don't grope each other, but do talk about it
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>Something significant is said, such as "It's ok MC, we can get through this together"
>Close ups of each individuals face where they don't say any words they are just smiling and make some sort of breathy confirmation

This happens in stressful scenes as well, like right before a battle. I'd be fine with the close ups, but the noise coming from each character is awkward.
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>gulp
>gulp
>GULP
>GULP
>FWUAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
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>>100755837
when does this ever happen
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>>100741779
>catch cold

nobody says that
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>>100740681
women dont do that... the look at each other and think hatefull thoughts, then give each other compliments with that fake smile....

all of them
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>>100778396
Its a regional thing
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Not sure if posted
>beach episode
>one girl's tits appear larger
>flat chested characters glare
>"Jiiiiiiiiiiiii"
>"w-what?"
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>>100741779

No one ever fucking says "catch cold". I don't know what part of Russia you're from, but here in the Anglosphere we have these things called "articles", which we use in our English sentences as they are part of English grammar.
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>>100745227

Um... I- I actually like friendship punch/brave punch... S-sorry...
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When a character is obsessed with food
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>Be the maker of the OP pic
>See someone else usee it to make a thread
I LIKE IT!
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>>100754091

I don't remember Joseph getting slapped by his mom though.

Probably because esidisi came to ruin the party
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>>100769865
Yep. Teenagers saving the world is just too fucked up. And it happens all too often. Sure, the MC's are usually teenagers, but why oh why are the adults much less powerful than them? They were once teenagers too you know. lel.
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>>100778338
The only thing I can think of is Mirai Nikki but they locked her in a cage.
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> My name is (INSERT NAME),
>I am a normal MC with a normal life, I attend a normal High school.
>suddenly shit happens (2nd MC appears, massive explosion, SUPA POWA REVEL)
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>>100780781
What do you mean both? All I see is Kyon looking away from a pile of shit in disgust.



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