You wouldn't have sexual intercourse with Asuka, would you?
Where do I sign up?
Just when you think Asuka can't get better, we're graced with 3.0.
But she has no real curves.
Still sexy as fuck.
O-Of course not...
Movie Asuka a shit I'd rather the manga Asuka, anime Asuka or Apocalypse Asuka.
Nah, while Rei is definitely curvier (and as of Rebuild, noticeably bustier) Asuka still has a grade a ass.
She's already been fucked enough by the 2.0 & 3.0 storyline, let's not overdo it
If by "sexual intercourse" you mean brutal rape, then yes. Yes I would.
You had your change Toji. Ya blew it.
You had your chance Toji. Ya blew it.
No, I would just masturbate over her comatose body. Because I'm just that much fucking alpha.
No, I'd be afraid to get a rash or something.
>generally unpleasant to be around
No thanks. At this point, anyone is better than Asuka. Even Fuyutsuki would be kind enough to offer tea or play shogi with you afterwards, or something.
She's 110% perfect
100% bitchy, 10% cute?
No, I'd make love to her
Of course, who wouldn't?
You guys just don't understand
Her flaws only make her that much more perfect
More sexually arousing Asuka picture please.
What kind of monster would even consider it?
I can accept flaws, but not being a bitch. That's not a flaw you can work with, that's being terrible on fundamental level.
I don't think you understand that to be perfect, it means that you don't have any flaws, otherwise you're not perfect. Please lrn2english.
You guys are all picking the wrong Eva girl anyway, Rei's easily the best girl in the series and go ahead and say she has social problems all you want, because 99% of the people on this board are even more autistic than Rei is.
I'm sorry anon but you're wrong and that's all there is to it
You're terrible on a fundamental level.
greetings from the front page, please kill yourself
It's like you don't even understand her character even though you love her so much.
>implying tsun is somehow a good thing
Don't bully Asuka you guys
No anon, you don't understand her, otherwise you'd come to that logical conclusion that she's perfect
I'm not bullying her, I'm just saying she isn't perfect. However, that would probably make her think I was bullying her or being mean to her because she's also incredibly insecure, unlike Rei who only cares about whether or not she's being paid attention to.
Something about this picture, I dont know what it is but it just makes my dick so fucking hard. It's either that slight peek at the vagina or the subtle way she carelessly covers her breasts, fucking great
>implying it isn't
Preferably without the eye patch.
But I don't like Rei, she's scary
It's not my fault you don't understand her
The best part is, Soryu shows you how these characters act without being a caricature. Irrational mood swings, unintentionally killing self esteem from someone trying to be their friend out of boredom no less, being shallow and ditching a date before giving it an honest chance, terminal inferiority complexes, and being mean spirited towards people in general.
Shikinami, on the other hand is a shallow caricature, and by default a terrible character.
Any understanding of her character should lead you into the direction of "this person is unpleasant, destined to make people hate her in a short period of time"
I'm pretty sure I have a decent understanding of Asuka. She wants to be useful to others, because she has low self-esteem, and craves for anyone around her to give her tons of praise and attention. This is because her mother basically abandoned her for a doll, giving her the self-esteem issues and instilling a need for validation from others (due to the rejection by her own mother). In general, she's closed off, because she's afraid of getting hurt (again, because of her mother), so she acts like a bitch to try and push people away and not allow them to get too close, but also acts like a bitch because she has trouble expressing her emotions and is very hormonal (as she is a teenage girl).
It doesn't have anything to do with me not understanding her character. I get her fine. The problem is I don't want someone to act like a bitch around me, especially when Asuka is hardly ever nice (as we can see by watching the anime and counting how many scenes where she's not being a cunt to Shinji or someone else). This isn't exactly her fault and is more a problem of the emotional damage she's suffered in her life as well as being a hormonal teenage girl, but I don't want to be around people like that in general.
With Rei, she's just extremely afraid of being lonely or being considered worthless, so in a lot of ways, she's pretty similar to Asuka but she chooses not to express herself and isn't actually a bitch.
She is a slut, so sure thing?
But I greatly Prefer not-Asuka. Better girl.
And a pianist to boot.
Here's the real question..
and if she is then why didn't she
like the rest of 'em.
>the rest of them
Gendo only fucked Ritsuko and her mom, and of course Yui. Also probably some Rei dolls, but hey, I'd do it so maybe I'm just projecting.
Gee I finally see the light anon guess I'm not allowed to like Asuka, all I needed was for someone to make me see the error of my ways
It has nothing to do with you seeing the light. You said I didn't understand Asuka, so I gave you what I believe to be my understanding of her character which I think is relatively accurate.
I was implying that Gendo fucks all of the geniuses- like Yui, Dr. Akagi, and Ritsuko. So if Asuka is a genius, then what's the problem with Asuka? Or is Shinji, whom she's qualified as "baka" whether lovingly or descriptively, serving as the genius extension of Gendo- it would be a vicarious sort of fuck.
Sorry, I prefer the bitchy girls in general, especially the ones who do it out of insecurity.
Oh shit, you're right. Man, Gendo knows where to put his penis into. Except Ritsuko, that was kinda a bad idea.
>Gendo fucks all of the geniuses
Including Fuyutsuki, right?
Well... not consensually anyway.
>Anno thinks Asuka is strong because she's his favorite
>reason? she's cute
>doesn't even understand his characters
>can't see that Asuka is by far the weakest of the three
He's just as shallow and delusional as the rest of the Asuka fans.
Shallow and delusional.
Go fap to your doll reifag
Am I shallow if I like her because she's weak and I have the overriding urge to protect weak women?
Nah, that's fine. Like her for whatever reason you want to like her, it doesn't really matter in the end.
You should see her as more than just something to protect but that can be part of it
You know what Misato and Rei have? Determination and a sense of duty. Willing to sacrifice themselves for the safety of humanity. Compassion, Misato more than Rei. Asuka? Frail attempts to stave off the sinking feeling she's worthless. Don't confuse her desperation to not be the worst with the kind of determination that Misato and Rei have.
Compared to the others in this thread? No, but also don't delude yourself into thinking you are in the majority. Take a big old look at this thread and tell me it isn't people just wanking over her for being cute while completely ignoring the fact that she's selfish and bitchy.
It's not as if you're ever gonna MEET Asuka anyway...
Gendo likes them young and Fuyutsuki's too old. Not only that, Gendo like rubbing his bangbuddies in Fuyutsuki's face.
Only rape and for impregnating her so she goes nuts.
I don't think I would be the problem, but her.
Dear lord I think I've finally beheld 100% concentrated autism
Please, Misato is basically an adult version of Asuka who's matured a bit (more compassionate, yes) but otherwise is very much the same. Granted, she also has the distinction of having an overriding goal in life (killing as many angels as possible to avenge her father) but this really just masks the problem that she doesn't want to be alone, feels insecure, and wants praise and human contact.
Rei is also very much like Asuka with regards to motivations, but she's introverted and not extroverted. Some would say "At least Rei's not a bitch" but she's definitely a cold and unpleasant person unless you get to know her- if she lets you get to know her.
Me love Misato long time!
You can't even say that; the only real linking factor between Misato and Asuka is that they're both very insecure. Asuka has almost none of the traits that Misato does; all Asuka cares about is being praised and having her ego stroked and she gets depressed and starts fucking up her job (which could end the world if she does fuck up badly enough) when she doesn't get any recognition because she's not doing a very good job. Misato can actually function without input from other people (though her pride does get wounded pretty significantly).
Asuka's main problem is that she doesn't want to be worthless. That's pretty much her character. She even tries to commit suicide by lying in a tub like a vegetable when she realized she isn't good and wont be good again.
Rei isn't like Asuka at all. She isn't proving to herself and others that's she's not worthless. She has identity issues and basically is struggling with human interaction.
Misato actually has multiple motivations, and revenge for her father is actually overcome and is replaced with helping others. She already knew the angels were dead, and still sacrificed herself to save Shinji. Both to help him and help save the world from 3rd Impact. Being insecure is a common theme for all characters, but in Asuka's case it's her only problem, and happens to be crippling even though Misato and Rei overcome it well before EoE.
If by sexual intercourse you mean punching her face, then yes I would.
>she gets depressed and starts fucking up her job when she doesn't get any recognition because she's not doing a very good job
Or you know, PTSD from being mindbroken by an angel
She was depressed and frustrated before the angel.
Your chronological order is mixed up. She was already fucking up and doing a poor job many episodes before she got her mind raped. Remember the episode where Ritsuko talks about how shitty Asuka's synch scores are and how butthurt she gets?
Of all the girls in Eva, I want to rape Asuka the most. Seriously, I'll only enjoy it if she doesn't.
>captcha: persistent rwasxa
I'm thinking "rwasxa" means to rape is German.
I didn't know this.
I should play the Ys games some day.
Why do you care about this subject so much? Does seeing people like a character you don't like really bother you so badly?
That's funny, I feel the same why about Rei. That cute face of hers is just begging to be degraded to the point where she's in tears.
>implying you could actually effect Rei emotionally
I would like to love her and protect her from suffering more Although nobody can because of her personality and have a family with her.
I declare my self an Asukafag, and I mostly agree with what you say. We can't entirely blame Asuka for bitch around as you wouldn't blame a person who lost a hand in an accident for sucking at videogames.
What kind of monster are you?
Don't tell me you're not turned on by the thought of tears streaming from those crimson eyes as your roughly run your hands through her short, cute hair and have your way with The Rei.
>implying I think of mai waifu in impure ways and that our relationship hasn't transcended past normal human physical relations
The only Eva girl I would not have sex with is Hikari. She's just so fucking bland
That kinda made me grin
Asuka's my waifu. I would make sweet, sweet love to her in a heartbeat. I'd also holdher hands while doing it.
Fucking disgusting. People actually get off to that?
Because she's a doll, right?
Yes i would rather fuck Kaworu than Asuka
>just barely touching
You are the sickest kind of person I've met. I hope you get what's coming for you when you die.
That's so lewd that my dick just threw up a little.
Something less lewd.
Asukafag's best dream -- Reifag's worst nightmare.
Re-Take is canon.
Sick fucks, making hands-barely-touching canon like that.
I'd hatefuck her if that's what you mean
Where are you going with this?
You're retarded just stop
I was in that thread, at first it was full of Reifags and then Asukafags won the battle. Also many explanations of Asuka's psychology.
>Asuka's entire existence and sense of self worth is hinged on the perceptions from others
>inferiority complex so bad she's reduced to a mumbling potato in a bath tub when she realizes she can't be number one
>"s-she's a stronk character, seriously"
I'll go kill your mother, then I'll substitute you in every single way of your life. Stole your job, hobbies and do them all way better than you. I will leave you no reason to live.
How would you feel?
What he meant by strong is bossy and not sheepish. She won't just be quiet and do whatever she is told.
There probably could have been a better translation for what anno said.
I think i saw her seiyuu on the bus last week. She lives in melbourne right?
I want to hold her and tell her that everything will be okay; that she doesn't have to pilot or do anything but be herself because she is already loved.
Of course not. Who would ever want a ginger slut-bitch with no soul? Empty cunty doll of no use to anyone.
>implying Misato's charater isn't 1000 times more tragic and yet still more compassionate and determined than Asuka could ever dream to be
That's too cute.
Anon, being a strong character has a lot of meanings, but being loud and obnoxious as "strong" is probably the worst of the definitions, let alone least flattering.
BAN THIS SICK FILTH
Well that's obviously what he meant. Do you even japan? They love their submissive doll-like girls and can't handle an Asuka or Misato
Well, two things. One, Misato isn't like Asuka in that respect, so saying they're both strong under that definition is silly.
You also seem to keep thinking Rei is submissive. You do realize she grew as a character since episode 6, right? The one hijacking EVAs to explode nukes, going behind the backs of everyone to keep an eye on Kaowru, and the one that gave Gendo the ultimate fuck you in EoE. She was basically a rogue devil child doing as she pleases at the end.
>implying Misato has more than one trauma
While Misato's only trauma is the second impact, Asuka has been having problemas all her 14 years
Yeah, that's kind of a big trauma.
The actual trauma kicked in when her mother committed suicide, before that it was frustration.
They both suffered truama, and Misato's is by far the worse of the two.
>being before anyone
Maya > Misato > Ritsuko > Nadia > Kaworu > Shit > Asuka = Rei
No, I wouldn't She is an old hag
Why do Reifags get so buttmangled in Asuka threads?
>implying it's only reifags that get infuriated by asukafags being faggots.
Second Impact is very traumatic, but all the things that happened to Asuka are worse. Her mother's suicide, her step-mother's threats. That Kaji stuff, that Shinji stuff, the suicide attempt..... Is obviously worse.
Better like this, Anon?
I'm sure it is
The assblast is reaching critical levels; deploying emergency measures.
>That Kaji stuff, that Shinji stuff, the suicide attempt
That stuff doesn't count because it's her unable to cope with the fact that not everyone is going to love and adore her. All you have is her mother's break down and her step mother being a cunt.
Misato had severe daddy issues and then witnessed hell on earth, with billions dying. Unimaginable despair hitting hard from misplaced hate and survivor's guilt of her father and from the everyone else dead even though she was so close. Asuka is an absolute cunt with no excuse.
>implying everyone isn't annoyed with both Reifags and Asukafags in general
You can dislike Asuka, but instead of spouting like an autist when an Asuka thread is up, go make your own thread and ignore it if this gives your ass such a big bruise.
Why would someone turn Asuka into this?
Do people actually like this?
Asuka is a slutty hoe, but would fuck.
>still assuming everyone that hates you faggots is a reifag
>make a nice NGE general or misato thread
>asukafags invade being faggots
>"why you so mad?"
Yeah no, if you insist on being faggots in every thread, don't expect for everyone to play nice in yours.
Does this mean Asuka is no longer a redhead or is it just shitty shading?
So basically you're shitposting on purpose. Got it.
Okay then, so what are you?
When do Asukafags "invade" Evangelion threads anymore than any other group? Aside from Misatofags, because no one likes slutty used goods.
>witnessed hell on earth, with billions dying
After she was rescued she spent a couple of years without talking, in secure installations.
Asuka received militar training since she was just a kid, everybody treated her like an adult so she started to believe she didn't need anyone because she was the best. Then she meets Kaji, and for the first time a person starts worrying about her not as a soldier but as a person; and she finds what she thinks it's love. Mcuh time later Kaji reunites with Misato and starts getting cold with her, and then he dies. All this while her possibly new love (aka. Shinji) destroys her emotionally. And then she's mindraped by a motherfucking angel.
I seriously think her life is worse in 14 years than Misato's in 29.
>NGE general/Misato general
>getting invaded by Asukafags
For starters, when was the last time someone even made a Misato thread that didn't die?
Nor have I seen any recent NGE generals get taken over by Asukafags and become a waifu thread.
There's no need to grasp at straws this hard, anon.
That's not trauma for excusing her cunty behavior. She was a cunt before, during, and after all of that. Everything you mentioned is stemming from her inferiority complex, her not being able to cope with the fact that she's not number fucking one.
>"why you so mad?"
That's a good question. Why are you so mad, anon?
Have an Asuka.
Go check yourself.
The answer is never.
Asuka definitely has some emotional trauma. Misato, however, witnessed what she probably thought was the end of the world and probably lost a large majority of the people she knew, including friends and family, and her own dad. It affected her, as you said, to the point where she wouldn't even speak because she was so traumatized by the event, and remember that we just get a condensed version of it (I'm sure the real thing was even more awful). It affected her so much that even many years later after the Second Impact she's still completely and totally focused on getting revenge for her father. Misato is just a stronger character than Asuka is and could overcome more. Sure, Asuka was emotionally abused by her own mother, but I don't really think that's as bad as the total package of what Misato had to go through during the Second Impact. Of course, this is a completely subjective conversation because there's no sliding scale of trauma that we can use; only approximations, especially since neither of us have actually been in the situations we're discussing.
At least you delusional faggots never change. The only shitty part is you get worse with time because you're so delusional.
>MFW people are actually arguing over which made up character in a giant robot anime with forced drama made by a sweaty neck beard otaku is the best girl.
You wouldn't blame a man who someone cut a hand to for sucking at videogames. It's sort of like that.
Sure Misato has lived a highly traumatic childhood. Her entire world changed in an unimaginable way. She had one single and very intense trauma, while Asuka had many moderated traumas in her ego, that is where she builds her entire world around, all of this in her childhood and puberty that are main phases fro the human mind development.
As you said either of us can know their pain as well as the isn't any way to measure it, but in my scale and way of thinking I still believe Asuka suffered more.
Yeah, and you get to pick on what subject. That your waifu isn't an unbearable piece of shit, that you aren't just as bad, that any opposition to your faggotry is directly from reifags only, that it couldn't possibly be from a someone who doesn't participate in your waifu wars. Take your pick. I got some more too
You had be going until this part.
See me after class.
I would. She can easily convince me she's 18+ simply because she looks and acts it. Thanks dumb character designers in japan, for giving obviously mature minded and ovulating women ridiculous ages like 14.
Why the fuck do you do this?
Is he not?
>Implying anno-san isnt a sweaty neck bearded otaku.
>You wouldn't blame a man who someone cut a hand to for sucking at videogames. It's sort of like that.
Funny you should mention something like that. Best friend broke his right hand, still moped the floor at a Street Fighter tournament before reconstructive surgery.
It's not a matter of suffering more or less, as what they experienced were different events at different stages of their lives, so they'll naturally react to them in different ways.
Misato was older than Asuka when Second Impact occurred, meaning that any damage was less likely to be as deep-rooted as Asuka's, which was a childhood event. Childhood events have longer lasting effects.
The nature of the events also differ, in that Misato lost her father, but also in his last moments affirmed that he cared deeply for her, regardless of any neglect he previously displayed. Kyoko, on the other hand, died as she lived: not caring about Asuka.
Give that man a cookie
>I've got some more too.
Lets hear them. This should be good.
You don't like that counter example? Okay.
Doesn't change the fact that you have Misato, someone who experienced THE worst trauma in NGE, and still became reintegrated into society. And here you have Asuka, sure traumatized in child hood, still acting like a cunt and making her social integration worse even though she knows proper etiquette. And she has no excuse at all.
Rei a shit.
But Misato's matured as adult and Asuka's isn't even 16 yet. I don't see why you're trying to make the comparison.
>Do people actually like this?
Misato barely experienced Second Impact; what caused her trauma was the death of her father and mother and discovering that her father actually cared about her. It's the same kind of trauma as Asuka's but Asukas was more intense. If Asuka is a """""""cunt"""""" is because she is still being traumatized with
>Kaji and Shinji stuff
while Misato's problems disappeared long time ago.
That you guys don't ruin threads. That other characters aren't or could possibly be better than Asuka. That you don't strangely insist that Rei is an emotionless doll when ever you see her in a thread, even if it's not relevant. That moot liking her some how gives more meaning to you liking her. That you don't like her for shallow reasons. That you don't actually understand her character. That you don't have an ill placed hatred for the foil to Asuka.
Again, take your pick, you're bound to suffer from at least one, and others suffer from even more.
I don't recall Asuka's problems happening too long ago, considering her age.
Give it time, anon. I'm not sure why you expect her to act like someone Misato's age already.
Because she still recovered before she hit maturity.
But you can't blame the "Kaji and Shinji stuff" on anyone but her. She's still choosing to be a selfish person who is bitchy, even though she knows proper social etiquette.
I'm defending her. She's my angel
>Because she still recovered before she hit maturity.
You mean Misato? We don't see a remarkable recovery until we see her and Ritsuko meeting for the first time in college.
>If Asuka is a """""""cunt"""""" is because she is still being traumatized
That means tha each day her traumas get a little deeper or new ones appear.
I want to heal Asuka.
That last part was actually directed at the other anon. I guess I should have made that clearer.
We're told by Ritsuko that she handled it in a couple years.
But she's not. No more than other characters. And they aren't acting like selfish cunts who breakdown the moment they aren't "the best". Rei found out she's a piece of meat, cloned and mass produced to be an object, not a person. Yet she sacrifices herself for the world and shinji multiple times. Shinji's entire relationship with his dad and friends is mind fucking him, yet he still manages hold himself together better than asuka. You really telling me Shinji and Rei don't have it worse than Asuka?
Each one reacts their own way to their own traumas. Shinji keeps being a sociallly-inept person. Rei keeps being a dandere. And Asuka has that superiority-inferiority complex. They are all the same, just Asuka's is more difficult to deal with.
Do you think that if she had a chance she would pick living her life, she would want to have a normal teenager life, she didn't choose to be like that. She doesn't enjoy. She's not a bad person.
Not that anon, I only recall Rei sacrificing herself two times; one of those times only occuring because she was given others. Rei barely had a grasp on humans emotions, so you can't really expect her to act in any way when she comes to her realization. Can't really argue with Shinji, though it's not like he still didn't have his breakdowns like Asuka did.
>You really telling me Shinji and Rei don't have it worse than Asuka?
I'm not saying anybody had it worse than anybody. I don't even see how that's important when at the end of the day, they've all suffered.
And here it is, the point where we completely miss the point. She isn't a pleasant person, she isn't good, she would be very undesirable as a character if she weren't "cute". She's weak at her own expense, she's selfish, she's unsympathetic. And she does it knowing how to be a decent person. How to not be a cunt. Yet she still is, then when she has her precious worldview broken, she's a fucking potato in a tub. And she could have stopped it, it didn't have to be that way, she doesn't have an excuse.
>she would be very undesirable as a character if she weren't "cute"
So would every other moe character in Eva.
You kind of missed the entire beginning and middle of the conversation. Asuka isn't a strong character, or even likable when you start thinking about it. They were arguing that she had the worst trauma and she deserves sympathy point and excuse her cunty behavior, even though she didn't have the worse trauma, and the ones who did still managed to integrate into society as a "not an unlikable bitch" pin on their coats.
Fuyutsiki isn't cute, yet he's still likeable and moe as fuck.
I don't think you have a very good understanding of the series in general. For one, you're just listing some aspects of the character's issues and then not giving any justification as to why Asuka has it worse, you're simply saying "she just has it worse." Can you elaborate on how she has it worse vs. Shinji? Shinji and Asuka are actually pretty good to compare.
Asuka's mother went insane and abandoned her for a doll. Shinji's father has neglected Shinji since Shinji was a child and only even talks to him when he needs Shinji to do something, and even then, is nothing but business. They're both issues of neglect; however, Shinji still has to deal with his father neglecting him, intentionally, on a day-by-day basis, while Asuka can blame her mother's insanity on it. How does she have it worse again?
Shinji oscillates. Rei developed into a likeable character. Misato was great pretty much the entire time. If you made them plain looking, you could still like them.
Asuka is a fictional character, and she's moe. Logic doesn't apply.
Asuka is a bitch and a shitty person, but she's not real and so she's safe. She's not hurting anyone, and is instead fetish fuel.
So I've gone through Rebuild, Retake, NGE, and EoE, what's next?
>she didn't choose to be like that. She doesn't enjoy. She's not a bad person.
She was born that way, a bad person.
But they are still arguing she's a good character, when she's actually not. You may admit that she's pretty much there to fap to, but they aren't. And seeing them struggle and ignore facts is also fucking funny.
>deserves sympathy point and excuse her cunty behavior
That's liking saying Shinji shouldn't be excused for being such a "whiny pussy."
Forced to pilot a giant mech at age 14 that causes you physical and emotional issues while still juggling the traumas of childhood is a pretty plausible excuse. It just affects them differently. I honestly can't imagine Asuka being any other way without bringing down the show a bit.
You can join the rest of us and wait for 4.0
Alternatively there are manga spin offs and a couple of games
It's the vagina bones that get me.
I also never understood why she was all angry in 3.0, you'd think any woman who found out that she was forever stuck in a 16 year old body would be on cloud 9.
Those are even more shit
Don't forget Super Robot Wars.
Yeah they're all terrible, though. There are some decent ones, though.
>Those are even more shit
its like i am really on /v/
No, Asuka still knows better. She's seen it what it means to be a normal person in society, she's even faked it. Yet she's mad that "you wont even hold me" to Shinji when she treated him like shit yet knew better? That people would be adverse to her abrasive actions? No, there's no excuse.
>equating your opinions to facts
>implying anyone's denying she's a bitch
Being unlikable to you doesn't mean she's a necessarily bad character or if she's unlikable to anyone else. You should stop trying so hard to force your opinion on others.
In episode 15, Asuka and Shinji kiss, but due to their personal traumas it goes awfully wrong. Asuka wanted to kiss Shinji but she did not want to look interested, in case of he rejected her, so she told she wanted to kiss him because she was bored. Shinji wanted to kiss her but he could not believe she was interested in him, so he initially resisted. They went forward with the kiss but Asuka held Shinji's nose the whole time to pretend it was not a big deal in case of he turned her down. And right because she was pretending it was not a big deal, Shini did not dare to do anything, and he remained motionless and unresponsing. And precisely because he remained motionless, Asuka thought he was turning her down and she ran off. Cue Shinji's self-esteem getting another blow and Asuka giving another step towards her mental breakdown.
Please do not link to that excuse of a website
Even Pen Pen thought it wasnt worth watching
>didn't read the thread
>"stop telling people they are wrong"
When they just want to admit that it's just personal fap preference, that's okay by me.
>Yeah they're all terrible, though. There are some decent ones, though.
That makes no sense
pls stop bully
Well I wouldn't say she's a bad character, but it's obvious people are into it for the fapping.
Have you not read all the lies they have to tell themselves to justify wanking over Asuka?
So what going on here is you throwing a bitchfit and officially your fanwanking and opinions are right even if they haven't been proven compared to the opposing fanwanking and opinions that haven't been proven.
Are all Reifags and Asukafags this autistic?
no please tell
They've been arguing the same arguments for almost 20 years
You be the judge.
I wonder if you also believe Reifags are sophisticated and dignified fans who aren't in for the fapping as well.
Why do you two fight when you're basically the same.
Maybe if you weren't such a dumb fucking nigger, you'd have the meager comprehension skills needed to deduce that "strong" is referring to Misato and Asuka's more forceful and outgoing personalities.
Here's the thing. I'm neither. Asuka is a cunt. Unjustified in being a cunt. And I've already explained why. The funniest thing is that people always assume a "red vs blue" thing about this. "If you hate one, you are automatically on the other side and I must ignore you.
>unjustified in being a cunt
There goes that fanwanking again.
And I guess this proves whether you're red or you're blue you're still apart of the crowd of idiots that tries to declare their opinions as the truth.
Asuka is one of the most well-written characters in anime.
Again, I don't associate myself with either side like you insist on. You think she's justified in being a cunt?
I never said I did nor did I ever say I didn't. But it's pretty ridiculous you're being retarded enough to try to compare your opinion to a fact when others say they believe she is justified.
Sounds like you have a harder time accepting differing opinions than they are.
>forgetting the 3
oh shit nigger what are you doing
No Micheal, you have no reading comprehension. And the fact that you don't care about actually participating in that conversation being had means you should probably go away.
Go deal with your gambling problem or try to kick up your baseball career again.
You're the one without reading comprehension, bucko.
He's not saying you're a part of either "side," he's calling you a faggot because you treat your opinions as facts.
>And seeing them struggle and ignore facts is also fucking funny.
You can't even read your own posts and yet you try to accuse me of not having reading comprehension.
I wonder how new you have to be to not be able to seperate personal opinions and fanwanking from facts. I would participate per request if you didn't have such self-righteous logic.
What type of question is that!?
Of course I would.
>forgetting the six
nigga you can't count for shit
And you guys are confusing facts and opinions. There were facts. Like Misato recovering from trauma. That Shinji wasn't a potato in tub after failing a mission. That Asuka is know to fake being polite. These are facts. You draw conclusions from facts and premises.
Micheal, please, go work on your batting average or something. It'd be less embarrassing for you.
I would if I was Mari.
Cap: Gaylord oultnly
Uh, no. Look kid, "justification" is wholly subjective.
>Toji in that deleted live action scene
Why does Asuka have such shit taste? Kaji's a great husband but she never does get to fuck him and she is left with trash
I'd love to read whatever old text had "Gaylord" in it.
>left with trash
>implying shinji isn't best waifu
Is there a reason why you're pulling things out of you ass, because nobody ever denied that happening.
For your sake I sincerely hope you don't believe that Asuka being unlikable or is unjustified in being a bitch is a fact just because you believe it. That's sure what it sounds like.
Here's a 10
How about you check out MY 10
Gaylord is also a somewhat common surname.
>Implying the franchise bicycle matters
no, check this 5
Not him, but it is unjustifiable.
It's explainable which is good, but unjustifiable.
There's noone that actually gains from what she does, except the viewer who may or may not have an interest in watching bitches.
Fuck you and your shit taste.
I know the irony is beyond reason, but I honestly got that.
So given the facts presented, your opinion wouldn't be "She's a cunt and her actions shouldn't be tolerable out of sympathy"?
How do you know that :^)
>implying the franchise doesn't revolve around him
No, it wouldn't. Time to grow up and realize that your perspective isn't universal.
How can you not consider Asuka being a bitch etc... a fact?
There's no way you can justify it without wholly ignoring the other side of the equation, whoever she's being a bitch to. There's no reason for her, other than her own ego, that makes her act like a bitch right? No purpose, no goal, nothing, it's purely to sustain her own pathetic sense of self-worth.
How is Karl relevant besides that one time they met?
I don't hate her, she just needs more characterization. And she's not Kaji
That's pretty naïve since it's pretty clear that none of the main cast can properly adjust in society. Gendo's a neckbeard whose obsessed with getting his wife back, and has a plan to kill 3 billion people to get her back. Misato's an alcoholic, and finds a 14 year old sexually attractive. Shinji is a self-hating loser, who falls apart at the first sign of trouble who killed 3 billion people because someone said no to him. Asuka is abrasive as fuck, and can barely function in society. And, Rei has a billion year old soul stuffed in a 14 year old body who really wants to die, and killed 3 billion people because a 14 year old told her too.
That 03 will never stop bugging me regardless of how many times I've seen that picture
Karl is almost always relevant.
>No purpose, no goal, nothing
>it's purely to sustain her own pathetic sense of self-worth
That sounds to me like a purpose, a goal, something.
Karl fucks everyone
>she just needs more characterization
I can agree with that.
>she's not Kaji
Saying that like it's a bad thing.
>That's pretty naïve since it's pretty clear that none of the main cast can properly adjust in society
I call bullshit on that. Even Gendo's insanity has some rational founding; i.e that the world will end anyway so let's try ending it his way rather than SEELE's or whoever ends it according to the dead sea scrolls.
Don't underestimate people.
>ablooblooo mommy hold me that lady is mean abloobloo blooo
Maybe I didn't make it clear, but I did mean any purpose/goal except sustaining her own ego.
I didn't say she wasn't a bitch. Everyone knows that. I said I hope you didn't think her being unjustified for being a bitch wasn't a fact. Then someone who thinks she is justified comes around, shit happens, this thread is in the state that it is, and we should stop because I'm running out of crops.
Well it was the test suit for unit 03. Although the movie just had it say test.
Heres the thing, Mikey. I've stated my opinion, I backed it up with facts, people disputed facts to the point of denying them outright. And then the conversation continued. You jumping in at the end and stating that everything I said was "100% only factual" when the conclusion is obviously an opinion backed up by facts is cute. Seriously, stop embarrassing yourself this much. Come out of basketball retirement again, that'd be a little less degrading to your reputation.
Kaji's one of the greatest secondary characters in the franchise. He's better than an attractive girl with a bare bones personality
>Karl and Toji
>Implying Toji has any time to be seduced by some gray faggot
They are pretty chummy and they have something in common
Both are dead
He's too busy banging loli rei and having a robot arm
I like how you went from "you guys are confusing facts and opinions" to "w-well I never said I thought it was a fact, i-it was obviously an opinion". Hopefully this isn't just backtracking and you actually learned your lesson.
Well wait a moment, I joined the discussion now.
Let's say this person comes in then, and thinks it's justified. Well, he'd be wrong then wouldn't he?
Isn't it that simple? In his own justifying process he forgot something or willfully ignored it.
Waifufags are generally blind.
You can argue it'd be hard to talk sense into someone who drops every single moral and ethic to defend their waifu, and I'd agree, but that doesn't change that waifufags i.e Asukafags are retarded when they think her bitchiness is justified.
Okay Hikari whatever you say
While that may be true, it's also not yuri. So it's objectively worse.
Plus, I'd rather not see Misato get NTR'd.
>any purpose/goal except sustaining her own ego
So every character in Evangelion is unjustified in their actions, or do you not understand Evangelion/basic psychoanalysis?
Which in no way makes him or his end goal any better than that of SEELE's, who are arguably the only people that are even worse humans than Gendo.
Is this supposed to be an actual argument, or a shitpost?
>I don't know how conversations work
You ARE still confusing facts with opinions. People were denying the facts presented, while also saying my opinion is wrong factually. So it's also cute that you aren't ragging on them for your mistake in reading comprehension either.
/u/ please leave
>Well, he'd be wrong then wouldn't he?
Just because you find something offensive doesn't mean everyone else will. Just because you find something unforgivable doesn't mean everyone else will. Just because you find something immoral doesn't mean everyone else will.
You're free to think that they're retarded for not sharing your opinions, but until you stop conflating your opinions with fact, you're every bit as retarded as they are, if not more so.
>I backed it up with facts
Is this the new excuse when you're too embarrassed to admit you're fanwanking?
Something like Misato overcoming her trauma didn't have anything to do with the conversation in the first place. It's a fact, but it's not relevant to your half-assed comparisons. You've barely supported your opinion correctly in this case.
I'll get right on that basketball career when you stop shoving baseballs up your vagina.
But we love /u/.
Everything is done to sustain the ego. Even altruism. Even suicide.
I do too for the most part
Hey now, I was just messing around
I made the assumption that the third impact would happen if Gendo sat idly by and did nothing. The force pressing down on them is inevitable after all, and even when he's a high tier player and can influence a lot, he still has to consider the survival of mankind first, and when it comes to the end, whether or not he should continue.
So by the time Gendo is at NERV, it's already inevitable, since the gears are in motion and the schedule in the dead sea scrolls is perfect.
To take an analogy, everything is already tumbling down and in free fall. Gendo has the means to save his wife, by taking the plan that already exists that's bigger than him and any one person combined.
Gendo isn't a good person by any stretch, but it can be rationalized to a certain level. Not by much.
If Gendo for instance wasn't at NERV, and he knew nothing about those plans, then he might have been better, depending on what happens. As long as he has the hope that he can reunite with Yui, there is only one way for him to go.
Did you grab Psychology 101 thirty minutes ago or something
oh /u/ rapscallion
>about sustaining the ego
>People were denying the facts presented, while also saying my opinion is wrong factually. So it's also cute that you aren't ragging on them
And? All this post is saying is "stop picking on me!" This isn't about the previous argument, it's about you being a sanctimonious idiot. I don't care if there were other idiots earlier in the thread, they're not here now. You are.
I loath /u/, but love yuri.
People from that board are beyond saving.
>Just because you find something offensive doesn't mean everyone else will.
Not about finding it offensive, it's about justifying it. Not to forgive. Forgiving is a different concept.
If you bank on morality you also fall into a trap because then you make it subjective, instead you run with what effects you're shown. Otherwise you're "that guy" who just denies everything and contributes nothing whatsoever, and that guy, he is a faggot and don't be that guy. Nobody respects or cares about him.
This isn't merely an opinion, it can really just be reduced down to a logical set of questions with yes/no answers.
Oh, Mikey, you're killing me. You seriously don't know how an arguement works? Someone says, "It's okay that she acts that way, she traumatized". So why is that an incorrect conclusion to draw? Because Misato was traumatized, and recovered enough to be a functioning human. See how it works? Facts.
I almost started preferring blue over red, but now I am reminded of the truth
I'd figured the whole of /a/ and /u/ would get along more due to the similarities.
I'm pretty sure a majority of /a/ loves the hell out of yuri as well. Plus the people who come here are also beyond saving.
We don't need to save them, we just need them to keep doing the heavy lifting.
>see lewd asuka
>expect lewd asuka
Liked it till I read it.
>Askua crying over Shinji
Well then, good job providing a non-argument we could all have been without. Next time, just don't reply.
No, it's saying it's funny how it's hypocrisy. Complaints going one way. When you make it out to be that everyone needs to stop it, yet only bother the people on one side of the argument. It's cute.
Guy from earlier in the thread here. We were originally discussing Misato's trauma because we wanted to compare who had the roughest time in Evangelion. People wanted to argue that Asuka actually did, and that's the justification for her bitchiness, but some people disagreed and we brought up Misato, Shinji and Rei's past and what they've had to deal with and compared their behavior in the series to Asuka's, to summarize. So, that's why Misato's past and reaction to it is still being brought up, because of people using Asuka's past as justification for her cuntiness.
It DOES have to do with the conversation is my point.
but wow, you're a faget.
Are you seriously saying that patronizingly in an Eva thread? Eva kind of is Psychology 101, if you didn't realize.
Yeah. Are you an idiot? That's pretty obvious.
What, make OOC fanart of girls fucking?
Too bad Shinji's going to win the Asuka
>Plus the people who come here are also beyond saving.
That's true, but we need a different kind of saving altogether.
Pretty much. I have the "recent releases" thread showing and every other one is filtered.
I'm not really sure how I see him being an idiot really. Sanctimonious or not, I find the people who shout "It's not a fact it's an opinion!" at everything far worse.
They're cowards, wimps and people not really worth talking to since they'll never really discuss as much as just endlessly defend until they go "well you have your view, I have mine.".
Why, exactly? Because it implies something you don't like?
Probably, but I don't care enough about the franchise anyone to let that bother me.
I'll still ship these two.
Misato a functioning human being, really? Someone wasn't paying attention.
Don't use words you don't understand please. I know you're a pseudo-intellectual dipshit, so it's hard, but at least try. Singling you out is in no way hypocrisy.
Just leave. The moment you revealed your idiocy regarding the subject matter your posts became worthless.
>You seriously don't know how an arguement works?
And you don't know how opinions work, because there are still plenty of ways to interpret whether Asuka is justified in acting that way or not. Misato shouldn't even be relevant considering their age difference. Were you sheltered away your entire life so you weren't able to see many kids in your childhood or something?
And a completely retarded comparison still doesn't prove your opinion to be the most valid, as much as you'd like to push it, which was my point in the first place.
Suicide is the result of jettisoning the self, aka the ego. If you have an attachment to the ego you aren't going to be suicidal.
Not the ship I'll sail on but it's a pretty good one.
Why wouldn't you?
Don't you have some crack to smoke.
>What, make OOC fanart of girls fucking?
Yeah and other stuff, but mostly that.
>tfw Kaworu and Shinji can basically qualify as gay lovers but the same will never happen with Mari and Asuka
Justification is subjective. This isn't a difficult concept.
What's up with their eyes? Did they both have malaria?
Have this instead then
Actually, Khara has been supporting this crack pairing somewhat if their merchandising is of any indication.
She was functioning to me. At worst she has a few kinks, but holy fuck you need to grow up if you don't think most have one or two.
Think about what "functioning" means. She's not flawless and she could have a few erroneous decisions here or there, but she's still functioning.
Not him, but
>because there are still plenty of ways to interpret whether Asuka is justified in acting that way or not.
Like, how? You said it, now you need to elaborate on it for it to have any sort of value.
You're appealing to a sentimental value perhaps, but even doing that you're ignoring one side of the equation, the one who's on the receiving end.
It's simple to me, if the receiving end hasn't done anything to deserve said bitchiness, provoked or attacked, then the bitchiness is unjustified. The personal background of the bitch in question (here Asuka) doesn't matter, since this is a one or two-way transaction and you have to consider the relation with the receiving end.
I want to have hate-sex with her and then leave without a word while she cries herself to sleep.
Goddamn, I hate this whore, but she's so hot.
Oh, you see. This is how conversations about things are supposed to go. Never mind I'll address these for a third time. He we go. Misato was also traumatized, it was also while she was a child. She recovered in a couple of years. Asuka was traumatized as a child, and still hasn't recovered, years later. And here's the next part that's tricky: Misato's was severe, one of the worst. Now this is a junction were we talk about the comparison. The opinion is that Misato had it worse, but the facts are that she recovered more or less quickly. If we agree that Misato's trauma is more damaging to the psyche, then Asuka being a cunt should be unjustified.
she's a kid
While it may be subjective, the goal behind arguing these points is to convince the other person of your viewpoint, so they agree with you. Whether or not it's subjective doesn't matter and is irrelevant to the conversation at hand. What does matter is the actual argument, and whether or not you'll convince the other person of your opinion. Thanks for saying nothing!
Here's why that argument of yours won't work, and never will:
Let's say it truly is subjective. Not taking a position on either mind you.
So what do we do? Since we're two, three or even five people, we just consider the objective part of it. It's that simple, since it's the only way we can communicate on a common platform.
Discuss things first objectively, then provide some subjective input if the situation calls for it, which it doesn't at the moment.
All you end up, is with idiots (Asukafags in this case) desperately not wanting to accept that their waifu is a bitch and her actions not justifiable other from their own, egoistic point of view (again another unjustifiable action!).
That one's pretty good, actually.
I know it's false hope. Which is why I won't care about till I see it happen.
There's nothing wrong with having sex with kids.
Which pilot would you hug
>See how it works?
You don't. You're missing the part where you prove how Misato "recovering" necessitates Asuka "recovering". People are different. Why don't you go to a traumatized rape victim and tell them what a shitty, weak person they are just because there are rape victims who were able to move past it?
You also are conveniently ignoring several facts. Like how Misato was mute for years, and was much older than Asuka by the time she "recovered". Or how Misato still acts out sexually as a way of coping with her issues. Maybe you find slutiness less offensive than bitchiness, and that's fine, but there are certainly those who don't.
>if their merchandising is of any indication
At this point it's worth more than the actual events in the movies.
Except it isn't one or two. She's a terrible guardian who leaves two 14 year olds of the opposite sex alone in her house while she goes on dates. She's an alcoholic. The only way she can get any form of intimacy is through sex. Finds a 14 year old sexually attractive, and tries to have sex with him. Did I mention she really hates angels which causes her to gamble with her pilots lives on statistically improbable odds just so she can get on over on them. Much like the rest of the cast they all fall to shit the second bad things happen.
>You're missing the part where you prove how Misato "recovering" necessitates Asuka "recovering".
Not him but you're actually missing out here, like you suggest, it doesn't. However, this also means, that not recovering does not necessitate anyone else not recovering either. Because of this, we get these differences, and so far you're with us.
But, why ignore the difference? We can take two victims that went through the same ordeal and make a conclusion which is stronger, alternatively weaker.
>Maybe you find slutiness less offensive than bitchiness, and that's fine, but there are certainly those who don't.
In your honest opinion, which is worse and what kind of person would find sluttiness less offensive than bitchiness?
You'd have to have some preference for harmful acts, you'd have to be a sadist.
Sluttiness is good in itself, bitchiness isn't.
>A few Mari scenes were allusion to Kaji scenes from NGE
>A handful of Asuka scenes on 3.33 were allusion to Misato scenes from NGE
Just you wait Anon, Mari is going full suave mode on Asuka after she sees that puppy boy is more interested in a certain albino.
>So what do we do?
We don't do anything.
"I like Asuka."
"I think she's a bitch."
Boom. There's this entire "debate" in two sentences.
One of the better arguments I've seen for Asuka, sadly. She is really young, and she's a hormonal female who had a tough childhood. Honestly, just think about yourself at 14 and how you acted; I imagine we all have tons of embarassing memories and it's probably relatively similar. It doesn't help that we didn't have to do shit when we were that young. Meanwhile, Asuka has to deal with the pressures of a life-or-death situation for herself, Shinji and Rei, and on a greater scale, all of humanity. She also has her inferiority complex which is a really bad mix for that situation, as she doesn't want to feel useless or normal. She wants to feel special, so in general, she was a pretty bad person to pick for a pilot. Regardless, she is a human who makes mistakes.
I don't see any evidence that suggest that. If you get hammered once, or twice, that doesn't make you an alcoholic. If Misato had problems staying away from alcohol, which I don't see any evidence to suggest she has, she's not an alcoholic.
You can shame Misato any way you want, but she's still functioning, more functioning than you I'd say. Whether or not she's successful isn't what makes her a functioning human being.
You may be confused about what "functioning human being" means. Which is here used as well a buzzword so maybe that's the problem.
The two aren't mutually exclusive though.
Case in point earlier posts in this thread of the kids defending Asuka's actions. I didn't say I agreed with her actions being justifiable or if they weren't. My entire point was how the guy believed his opinion to be the absolute truth in the first place.
There we go with the "it's unjustifiable because I say so and I'm completely right!" again.
All of them except Karl, Mari and Toji because they are bros, Shinji and Asuka because they need it, Rei because she deserves.
>But, why ignore the difference?
You're free to draw your own conclusions, just like anyone else is.
>We can take two victims that went through the same ordeal and make a conclusion
which is stronger, alternatively weaker.
They didn't go through the same ordeal, but you're free to do that. Recognize though, that your own cognitive process is not universal. Others will come to separate conclusions.
>Sluttiness is good in itself, bitchiness isn't.
Sure thing, you cuckolding faggot.
Well, the Asukafags are pretty much revealing themselves to be wrong then, if all they can justify their "justification" with is that they like Asuka.
Can we wrap it up and basically end this whole thing with agreeing Asukafags have no argument but "I like asuka and I don't want to accept her wrongdoings"?
>You're missing the part where you prove how Misato "recovering" necessitates Asuka "recovering"
Because they both were treated. They aren't anymore, so you would assume they were deemed "helped".
More fun facts: Misato is only known to sex Kaji. All we know is that her romance with Kaji is what helped her feel needed, not that she's slutting around with others. Misato's years of being mute were said to be few, not many. To be "helped", in Asuka's case, is showing she knows how to be integrated into society. No completely, not 100% normal, but that others exist and have feelings too. Either she was helped, faked it, or faked it as a sociopath. Any of the possibilities, and she still isn't to be tolerated as a bitchy person just because.
Anon, Misato is coming home every night and getting smashed. Her apartment is a wreck and she has zero social life. Misato is a textbook functional alcoholic.
>Not hugging the bro pilots
That's what all the paragraph posts are about?
Shouldn't this just be an image dump thread?
the one who the real hero of evangelion
You're actually are the only one with tastes in this thread.
>Case in point earlier posts in this thread of the kids defending Asuka's actions.
No, that's not an argument, nor is it what you said. You need to define these views and explain why they're suitable as methods of justifying something on an equal, rational and "just" basis.
other post was mine:
>There we go with the "it's unjustifiable because I say so and I'm completely right!" again.
I don't see that in my post anon. That's a suggestion you'd need to back up too. At least refer to it.
>You're free to draw your own conclusions, just like anyone else is.
Drawing a conclusion is one thing, but making the observation of difference and which way it goes is another.
>They didn't go through the same ordeal, but you're free to do that.
In the hypothetical scenario I provided, they did. It was an example.
>Recognize though, that your own cognitive process is not universal. Others will come to separate conclusions.
Yes, which we can communicate to each other. The more mature they are, the more able they are to learn from others by discussing instead of merely defending their position since they're too immature to accept they're wrong.
>Sure thing, you cuckolding faggot.
Then it becomes cuckolding, and not sluttiness. Non-sluts can cheat in a relationship too. But it's hard to argue with defining insults, so unless you provide one that works we'll get nowhere.
We do accept Asuka's wrongdoings. That's the entire point. We see her bad actions, understand the issues that drove her to them, and forgive her for them. Asuka isn't an unforgivable monster, she's just a bitchy teenage girl.
I will not let you post a qt in low res.
Why isn't this a Gendo thread?
So what do you like about Asuka, then? What makes you want to forgive her and all that jazz?
>wanting to objectify purity
Because there is no justice in the world
This thread went bad fast.
I'd rather talk about crack shipping than this nonsense.
>We can take two victims that went through the same ordeal
Except they didn't go through the same ordeal. They both had to live through shitty, yet entirely different, set of circumstances so there is no valid comparison to begin with, and that's not even taking into account of their age differences.
>Sluttiness is good in itself, bitchiness isn't.
That's your preference.
>In the hypothetical scenario I provided, they did. It was an example.
A flawed example for the reasons stated above.
>Why don't you go to a traumatized rape victim and tell them what a shitty, weak person they are just because there are rape victims who were able to move past it?
No, really. One of you faggots "justify" this. This is essentially what you're doing. I want you to admit that you're sociopaths. You hate Asuka for being petty, mean and spiteful, but you're just the same. Is that why you hate her? Does she remind you of yourself?
This thread went bad way early on.
But yeah, I agree.
be careful what you wish for
Crack ships are shit because they are unbelievable and if they did get together their relationship would be bland as hell
Just kidding, I find most of them cute and intriguing
What in the hell is going on in that picture?
It's not sociopathy, it's simply just one part of the fanbase shitstirring with another for liking something they don't like.
Her fiery passion.
That's not really a good argument. I'm petty to a degree, and very mean to people. But I love Asuka.
But she's so fucking fine
>In the hypothetical scenario I provided, they did. It was an example.
So then why bring it up in the first place, fuckface? It's totally irrelevant.
>The more mature they are
"Mature" people wouldn't harbor grudges and spite toward a child.
Well then it's another thing. Forgiving is not justifying. You can forgive unjustifiable acts.
>Except they didn't go through the same ordeal.
Oh shut the fuck up already you moron. Why do you keep falling into some stupid shit that has nothing to do with what I wrote?
They, who, what? Is this another example? Then say so, but first either agree.
>That's your preference.
Not preference, justifiable fact. Preference comes after that.
>A flawed example for the reasons stated above.
It's not a flawed example since I use it to prove a point you're conveniently ignoring. Refer to that point, then come back to me. If you want to move on with the discussion, having agreed with what I said, do so.
I wish for stuff like that
Don't worry anon. It is all going according to plan.
Is mariasu still considered crack shipping after 3.33?
>No, really. One of you faggots "justify" this. This is essentially what you're doing. I want you to admit that you're sociopaths. You hate Asuka for being petty, mean and spiteful, but you're just the same. Is that why you hate her? Does she remind you of yourself?
Yeah, you're a retard basically. Let's keep your strawmen out of this,yeah?
This has nothing to do with telling a rape victim anything. Keep your shitty false equivalents out of this thread, you're just making Asukafags look more pathetic.
>That's not really a good argument.
That's just my speculation. The argument is the stuff before that.
Using mean words on the internet and dissing your favorite character isn't the same as acting like your character.
Asking to kiss you, then making it out to be the worst thing I've ever done? Never would have crossed my mind.
Degrading anyone I saw as competition, even though it's a collective effort to save the world? Never would have crossed my mind.
Treat you like shit and insult you every chance I get, then wonder why you despise the sight of me? Wouldn't do it in the first place, but sure as hell wouldn't be surprised if I did and you hated me.
>asuka is only 14yrs old
>new eva movie turns her age 29
i can now fap to this!
Because in the end, she gets up every day and saves the fucking world. Even when she's beaten down, busted up, and goddamn mind-raped she keeps fighting. Asuka may have her flaws, but underneath it all she's a good person.
I was trying to speak on behalf of the Asukafags. I'm really just one anon though.
>So then why bring it up in the first place, fuckface? It's totally irrelevant.
It's not relevant to the point I was making, you may not be in the mood to argue seriously because your waifu is on the line and you're defensive, but that's how it is. It's demonstrating a simple thing that you apparently find hard to accept.
>"Mature" people wouldn't harbor grudges and spite toward a child.
Then why do you?
I never fapped to yuri before but this one was buckets.
>no LRS pics
>Yfw 4.0 ends with Kaworu and Rei having sex
>"Mature" people wouldn't harbor grudges and spite toward a child.
What if they don't, but you're desperate and looking for something to attack back with instead of talking to them?
My you sound just like that bitch Asuka don't you? Hear something you don't like, BAM bitch reaction.
>not being disappointed at no Cake Asuka
It's like you want to have shit taste.
>Slutiness is good
Jesus Christ. Didn't they teach you in fucking kindergarten that "good" is an opinion word?
Don't post on this site until you've gone through this for at least an hour.
I'm trying to determine whether this is the beginning of b8 or if this entire thread's been b8 the whole time.
Only a little over a hundred posts left.
We should really have a couple of Gendo threads from time to time.
Barely-finger touching is the most boner-inducing thing, because you know it leads to hand-holding as the fingers wriggle their way into a grasp.
Considering the whole ship is based around the four lines they have together, I'd say so.
>Implying Toji won't come down and save the day, NTRing Shinji
You wish, anon.
There will be sex, but not with Rei.
Not with Rei at all.
>Didn't they teach you in fucking kindergarten that "good" is an opinion word?
When I got older and learned the actual definition, I learned that a lot of the things I learned in Kindergarten should stay in Kindergarten.
So unless you want to literally bring this discussion down to kindergarten level, I suggest you take your shitty waifu and get the fuck out since this site is 18+.
Well, I personally disagree. She started going downhill and not really doing her job properly when her synch scores started going down. In fact, her getting mind raped was due to her own negligence and poor emotional state (though I'm not blaming it on her, she had a lot to burden). After she did though, she really didn't do anything in the series until EoE where admittedly she did go pretty ham.
>I'm trying to determine whether this is the beginning of b8 or if this entire thread's been b8 the whole time.
Consider this, he says one is worse or better. What makes it so? Without any reasoning, he could just as well be saying that green is purple or other inane shit.
Official arts tells me otherwise.
as to be expected of the master
Last crackship picture from me
>Because in the end, she gets up every day and saves the fucking world. Even when she's beaten down, busted up, and goddamn mind-raped she keeps fighting. Asuka may have her flaws, but underneath it all she's a good person.
Holy fuck these Asukafag lies.
That's exactly what she doesn't do. She doesn't get up, she barely even tries and just gives in to how much of a failure she is. That's her entire character in the TV-series.
Then EoE comes along, and basically gives her a magic push through EVA therapy into fighting one final pointless battle so she can die.
Please. Asuka has it bad, but she's not great.
>They, who, what? Is this another example?
Your example. You know, the one where you quoted another Anon by saying how he "missed out" on how you can come to a conclusion on who is stronger between two characters based on who recovered the most?
>Not preference, justifiable fact.
There's that word again.
>since I use it to prove a point you're conveniently ignoring
I'm not the one conveniently forgetting what I typed two posts ago.
You're harboring spite toward a victim for not dealing with the circumstances well. It is every bit the same as the hypothetical scenario.
If you were a mature, empathetic human being, you would pity her. But you're a petty, mean and vindictive child, so you hate her for being a petty, mean and vindictive child. I pity you.
>can't synch with Shinji, but Rei can
>tantrum until she's consoled
>hissy fit and goes to her "friend's" house to play video games
>fails a mission
>tries to suicide in a bath tub in ruins
>"she keeps fighting no matter what!"
>can't kill shit or survive by herself
>"she's the best, she's the one saving the world!"
I'd let Gendo circa 1999 fuck me
EoE was magic feel better medicine for everyone. I think there's something in the LCL.
It looks like she's farting.
>Then why do you?
Sorry, what? Where am I doing that? Are you the child?
>Even when she's beaten down, busted up, and goddamn mind-raped she keeps fighting.
It's your fault for liking the least popular ship.
They ain't dead.
Get that shit out of here, I like my Rei pure and virginal
>Your example. You know, the one where you quoted another Anon by saying how he "missed out" on how you can come to a conclusion on who is stronger between two characters based on who recovered the most?
I have an inkling you misread my example then, since I make it very clear in the example that we assumed equal trauma, i.e the same thing happening. Check for yourself: >>100747314
Please make an effort to read posts from now on.
>There's that word again.
You don't like it something?
>I'm not the one conveniently forgetting what I typed two posts ago.
You misread it as explained above, and I await your apology.
>Well then it's another thing. Forgiving is not justifying. You can forgive unjustifiable acts.
Asuka certainly has reasons behind her actions (namely immaturity and severe emotional trauma). I wouldn't quite call them justifications in that they make Asuka's actions right, but they do show she's not just doing this for shits and giggles.
I could get on board with this ending.
>I learned that a lot of the things I learned in Kindergarten should stay in Kindergarten
And you're one of the things that should have stayed there, clearly.
>pure and virginal
>doesn't even care when Shinji touches her breast
All of you are wrong because waifufags are the shame of the Eva fanbase. Keep throwing shit and enjoy living in squalor.
>You're harboring spite
Wrong. Got anything else for me?
I pity Asuka, but I'm still not deluded enough to tell right from wrong. Waifufaggotry in combination with Asuka is a dreadful thing.
You harbor hate for other characters. I'm saying you do. I must be right, right?
Don't say things you know nothing about just to feign some kind of moral superiority. I don't hate anyone in this show, it's a cartoon. Some fans maybe, but not the cartoon. I don't hate MLP, but I've met a few bronies IRL I could not stand because they were horrible to themselves and others.
>implying they weren't killed in the "third impact"
>implying the weird red evangelions aren't dead
>I wouldn't quite call them justifications in that they make Asuka's actions right
Well, that's what level we're on. It's not for shits and giggles, but all wrong all the same.
wow, such butthurt
such ad hominem
How can this idiot die and his shirt remain intact? It's obvious he lived, became a Eva pilot and Gendo stole his shirt because he lost Shinji's school uniform
It isn't crack if it's official.
Would you eat a cake that Kaworu and Shinji made for you?
>since I make it very clear in the example that we assumed equal trauma, i.e the same thing happening
A faulty assumption from the start, since the characters in question did not undergo equal amounts of trauma nor should we care to discuss about a hypothetical scenario where two entirely different individuals do.
>You don't like it something?
I don't care much for people who deliberately adopt a separate definition for a word simply for the sake of their argument.
Asukafags, everyone. Not exactly the most mature of people.
You are now realizing that 3.33 is the most contrived, dumb pile of crap you could summon up. Next Misato is going to pick some item belonging to Kaworu in 4.0 she magically picks up just to remind him of his failure and crush him even more.
maybe he had more than one shirt
It needs to be unofficialized ASAP
We'll never see it translated and bear witness to it's horror
>inb4 "b-but Asukafags are the only ones that abloobloobloo!
>inb4 "b-but Reifags are the ones that abloobloobloo!"
Sometimes I wonder why I still participate in Eva threads on /a/.
It's not official. Relax.
I enjoy the waifu discussions because both are sweet girls
I just wish there was more talk about Gendo
>gendofag superiority complex
Yui was in control the whole time
>you will never have these space glasses
Nah I like Toji/Loli Rei.
Whether you like it or not, there's no better representation of the state of Evangelion than /a/.
Now that Rebuild is pure waifu-crap, that is what you get in threads. /a/ isn't deluded enough or dumb enough to think there's any real meaning behind all of this than the portrayal and selling of waifus, according to the whims of the writers.
Yes, they both are sweet girls.
But after two decades, the shitflinging and the elitism's ridiculous, man.
It's an official spin off published by Khara.
>I pity Asuka, but I'm still not deluded enough to tell right from wrong.
I find it hard to believe that you've spent an entire thread arguing that she's a terrible person and her actions are in no way justifiable from a totally neutral standpoint, without a lick of contempt or dislike.
But, if this is truly the case, okay. We're done here. I'm not going to get back on the train of trying to educate you on subjectivity.
You're really scraping the bottom of the LRS barrel.
>Implying he's not into the entire battalion of clones
Seriously, one of the may or may not be true stories is that he does lewd things with two of the older ones. Shit is insane
>I find it hard to believe that you've spent an entire thread arguing
Well then, check your bad ideas at the door. I actually came in recently, and I'm not the guy with the similar sentiment.
You're only making a lot of bad posts you know
Why don't you guys have a tulpa yet?
It's truly a wonderful thing/
What exactly does LRS stand for? I know it's the ship name.
L___ Rei Shinji?
>So unless you want to literally bring this discussion down to kindergarten level, I suggest you take your shitty waifu and get the fuck out since this site is 18+.
Yeah, because the guy I was responding to was "oh so mature." Nice tumblr meme, by the way.
I prefer not being schizophrenic.
Tulpas can get you killed you know.
He's right though, you are literally using a kindergarten ad hominem, and then you got told pretty hard.
This is on you m8.
>Well then, check your bad ideas at the door. I actually came in recently, and I'm not the guy with the similar sentiment.
Okay. You replied to an argument that wasn't directed at you. I'm not sure why you responded.
>hack art teacher explains tupla
>shows some gay painting
>implies it's artistic representation as seen in painting
>years later, someone mentions tupla
>"let me see, take a picture"
>learn real definition
>never see them again
If the idea of tupla weren't so retarded, I might have been embarrassed.
>I suggest you take your shitty waifu and get the fuck out since this site is 18+.
This sounds more like the other anon getting butthurt than the anon you're replying to "getting told."
Also pretty suspicious of you to refer to him instead of you just samefagging your childish insult.
Not exactly the same boat, but they both belong in the mind. Schizophrenia is generally and usually very negative and depressing.
Having a tulpa is upliting, it builds empathy, hope and it brings happiness.
>inb4 artificial happiness
Having a tulpa is a long, miraculous process. I understand its not for everyone, but really, it poses no harm. If anything, she's been whipping me into shape these past few weeks and encouraging me to go back to university.
A tulpa is a beatiful thing
>I don't believe in it
>thus, it is stupid
He has no reason to expect maturity when he himself wasn't being mature to begin with.
>and then you got told pretty hard.
I take it that quoting doge is what passes for a rebuttal for you then.
>"good" is inherently subjective
Yeah, I sure got told "m8".
you wouldn't download a waifu
>making an imaginary friend you think is real
Are you really sure you should be on this board?
>thinks someone not being able to tolerate that someone likes a fictional character they dislike has just "told" someone
You're either very young or replying to your own posts.
My little anon can't be this devastated.
Assuming it's real, it's still MK Ultra tier mental conditioning.
It's like you want to be mocked and ridiculed.
In the long run, having a tulpa will come to bite you in the ass. But if having a tulpa is what's getting you out of the house, I guess there are worse hobbies you could be taking up then.
Not even ironically.
>grab image off website with images
Next time I'll change it to a 4chan filename just for you
Please do. You'll save time and trouble for both you and /a/
There is nothing but low quality images on tumbler.
But the larger problem is you go to tumbler itself, and the fact you don't see anything wrong with it makes it all that much worse.
I was never into femdom before I met Asuka.
I suppose the real debate here is "Did we have a right to expect more from Asuka?", or maybe "Should we have expected more from Asuka?". On one hand she's one of 3 guardians of humanity, our last hope for survival. Asuka should represent the best in us as human beings. Her rudeness, tantrums and emotional breakdowns are unacceptable behavior. On the other, she's an immature, traumatized 14 year old girl forced into a role whose importance she's barely capable of understanding. In that light the fact that she last as long as she does without totally breaking down is impressive.
The comparisons to Rei also tend to drive things. Outwardly Rei seems so perfect, so serene. Ayanami seem much more like what we'd expect from our hero. Even Asuka seems to realize this, which is why "wondergirl" always sets her off. But in many ways Rei is just as damaged as Asuka, if not moreso. And she has her own breakdowns before the end.
But I'm just a idiot Asukafag, what do I know?
Its not like I crusade for social justice or make shitty 4 second gifs. I just like pretty pictures.
Now let us not fight, and make peace due to our mutual love of mentally damaged 14 year old girls
thanks for showing me the light anno
Not really. Rei is a cold, emotionless lump of wax compared to the blindingly hot wildfire that is Asuka.
I'll take your word for it and give my preference to the less damaged guardian of humanity.
Asukafags never refer to Rei as Ayanami. Gayanami Gei on the other hand has a much nicer ring to it.
I'm an Asukafag, and I can call Ayanami whatever the heck I want.
Right, and I'm a Kaworufag and I think Kawoshin is the end all, be all for everything that is EVA.
>Sex with a female
heh, good one
>Auska will never force you to wear a dress, whip you until you bleed and then grab your hair, bend you over a table and make you her woman with a strap on
All of that would hurt less than having to live knowing that I would never experience anything of what you just described.
Thread's past bump limit bro
I know that.
I sure would
Pic very related
Not sure myself.
its either that or pastels and water, I would bet
I'll take your word for it but god, I love the way that guy draws Asuka.
Yeah, he's one of my favorites