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Good god, this is so awkward, I can't watch.

This entire show is a satire of the exploitation in the idol industry, right?
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>>100722298
It's not satire.
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>satire

You mean "painfully realistic".
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>Child bearing hips
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>>100722372
>realistic
It's not realistic. Horrible, dumb scene. I will probably drop this show soon.
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>>100722298
It's Yamakan saving anime. This will be the future of idol shows for years to come. Showing realistic idol careers is the future of anime.
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Why is Ms. Giantbackpack Eatsalot so red?
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My first and last idol anime.
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>>100722298
Wake up, girls! You have to wake up and realize you are being used!
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>>100722476
You're missing out on some good idol shows then.


The first two episodes and the movie have been pretty good, All the characters are nice and what you would expect from an idol show, I'm sure Yamakan will make it different to Idolmas and LL though.
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Yamakan is a pretentious idiot if he wants to make us think his show is a balanced representation of the idol industry. He started well with turning them all into almost sex slaves, but he ruined everything by showing the "good fans" at the end of the episode. It was a laughable attempt at showing both sides of the coin, and it feels like he wanted to teach the viewer a (very retarded) moral lesson. Yamakan is devoid of any talent.
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>>100722298
I was having trouble watching until the president came back
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>>100722580
The movie was boring and that last scene with panty shots was awkward and embarrassing to watch.
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>>100722617
Every other idol show isn't like Wake Up, Girls.
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>>100722580
Is the movie about the idol selection?
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>>100722640
I don't like idol culture so I'm not planning to watch other idol shows.
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>>100722687
Idol anime isn't about 3D idol culture.

Except AKB0048.
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>>100722298
>ood god, this is so awkward, I can't watch.
>>>/ann/
>>>/mal/
>>>/out/

This is a wrong reaction. You exposed yourself as not /a/non. Correct reaction would be your dick feeling awkward. I bet you cant even fap over necrophilia. Normalfags like you dont belong here.
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why do they all look exactly the same?

is this japans idea of diversity? a slight difference in bust size and hair length/style?

or are the animators incapable of drawing more than one type of body.
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I still don't want to watch this.

If it gets better i guess i'll pick it up though.
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>>100722298
>Good god, this is so awkward, I can't watch.

Watch a few idol videos. The reality is worse than that.
They put 12 or 13 year olds in video in which they rub each other with lotion all over their bodies.
It feels like they are crossing a border there, that shouldn't be crossed.
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>>100722734
>why do they all look exactly the same?
They're asian.
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>>100722718
There are too many characters and I don't like Japanese pop.
I really can't get into it. I don't appreciate their work and I feel deep contempt for idol fans.
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>>100722734
>that one shot in the OP where the camera pans down a still where they all stare at your with those same eyes
It's only getting creepier with time.
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>>100722778
You're talking about underage Junior idols, not normal, pop idols.
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>>100722731
Wow that's some serious edge, good sir *tips fedora*
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>>100722298
Oh, mama.
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>>100722731
You're such a fool and you don't even know this. Thanks to people like you /a/ is such a bad place for real discussion.
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>>100722298
>This entire show is a satire
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>>100722423
>its not realistic
You have no idea. You`d be better of dropping yourself out of window instead. With that kind of naivity life should be hard for you.
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>>100722596
Eleven, please contain your autism.
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How can you say if it's realistic if you don't work in the japanese entreteniment industry?

What's your idea of "realistic", anime?

AKB0048 was dangerously meta and nobody complained.
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>>100723202
I'm not naive. This whole situation was ridiculous and extremely badly written. Not only it's a violation of Japanese Child Welfare Law, it portrays the girls as incredibly stupid and naive. Even Mayu who was one of the most known and renowned idols.
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>>100722858
>normal pop idols
Idols are different from the normal musical performers. They are talento that do everything. There is really no difference etween Junior, JAV, TV etc. Idols. You dont instantly become popular music idol either - you`ll have to go through multiple stages and even then you`ll still be doing everything - from TV roles, gravure shots to events in restorants. Idols are basically slave property of their agencies.
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>>100722867
>edge
Its nice to be young, pure and naive.
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>>100723348
And one more thing. Scenes like that really clash with the overall feeling and tone of this anime, which is mostly optimistic and, yes, idealized.
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>>100722919
For "proper discussion" for people like you there is always ANN. Meanwhile /a/ can still keep a proper discussion while continuing to fap in same time.
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>>100723444
>There is really no difference etween Junior, JAV, TV etc. Idols.
There clearly is.
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>>100723534
Yes, you're just an idiot. I will not waste more time on a juvenile moron like you.
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>>100723348
>violation of Japanese Child Welfare Law
No it does not. You once again talk out of your ass and has no idea what you talk about. I see another deluded Idol obsessed "purity" fag with no clue about real world.
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>>100723648
I'm not an idol fag, see: >>100722802

And yes, it is a violation of CWL.
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Seriously?
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>>100723593
>obviously 14yo edgy teen trying to be "mature"
>calls other juvenile
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So was the restaurant part real or a dream scene? I watched the livestream, to hell if I'm downloading this piece of shit just for the subs.
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>>100722298
Which wake up would you fuck?
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>>100723802
Yamakan likes Nyaruko-san because he has shit taste.
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>>100723693
It is not. Prove me wrong. The only thing questionable there at all is underage teens working at all, which is avoided by having guardian permission.

Hell, Japan even cant raid teen brothels properly since has no real law base for that and has to make up reasons to raid and close shit.
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>>100723348
> Children thirteen years old or older, however, may be employed if the labor is light and not injurious to their health and welfare, and if the employer obtains permission from the local Labor Standards Administration office
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>>100723648
>Article 34 No person shall commit an act listed in any of the following items:
>(v) Cause a child under 15 years of age to engage in such money earning acts as entertaining at an alcoholic party;
>(vi) Cause a child to commit an obscene act;
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>>100723896
If I remember rightly, it's because the person that did the music for nyarko-san is doing the music for Wake Up,Girls! as well.
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>>100722298
No, it's regular exploitation in the idol industry.
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>>100722298
Why do all their body shaped look the same except for height and tits?
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>>100723873
Answer me you pieces of shit.
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>>100723873
None of it was a dream.
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>>100724085
That makes animators' work easier.
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>>100724085
Japanese women all look the same.
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>>100722298
Picked up.
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All you idolfags deserve to rot in shit.
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>>100724129
So you people are arguing on the feasibility of what was just some guy's dream?
Wow, /a/...
You're getting more and more retarded lately.
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>>100723873

the first half of this show is a dream

1. no one goes to bathhouses and get drunk during daytime... patrons should be slaving away as salarymen during daytime

2. Green-Leaves' manager level of incompetence is too make-believe

the only real part is the second half of the show... in a much more positive light
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Why don't the WUGs ever lift?
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>>100724458
Yamakan is just incompetent.
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>This entire show is a satire of the exploitation in the idol industry, right?

No, it's your usual shit anime aimed at hikkis to make some money.
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>>100722298

no

it's an attempt by Yamamoto to push NTR on idolfags
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>>100724491
Lift this

*unzip pants, is 400 pounds*
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>>100724458
1. The Yakuza did it
2. Bad writing
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>>100724540
>madoka
>...For Adults
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>>100724491
See, Hatsune Miku will save all the idols from exploitation.
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>>100724667
I'll find a way to exploit Miku.
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>>100723288
>How can you say if it's realistic if you don't work in the japanese entreteniment industry

Because there are various documentary shows in the past about various aspects of the japanese entertainment industry or even of otaku activities. There are also less salacious documentaries such as "Akihabara - A Story at the End of the Year" which was fansubbed by [doremi].

If you've not gone to any of the commercial entertainment shows, then Anthony Bourdain has an interesting one in season 2, episode 7 of his "Parts Unknown" series. Most of it doesn't pertain to anime/manga, but it does offer some perspective.
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>>100724599

Sudo does sure feel like a Yakuza
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>>100722298
What the fuck? What happened to saving anime? Is he giving up?
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>>100724897
The only way to save it is killing it.
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>>100724897
Have you been living under iraq? This is the chemo for the cancer sapping away at the life force of the anime industry

>captcha: omatzifo necessary
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>>100724769
>Yakuza
Of course. We need yet another cliche. And knowing Yamakan's shitty directing skills it will be a very awkward and uncomfortable reveal.
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>>100724536
People like to say that, but the fact is Yamakan is probably the only actually competend director in anime there is. He does not just make up things, he investigates and researches.

Hell, he went to highschool and stalked/interviewed highschool girls to see what they talk about, how act, and from what side eat chocolate cones before directing Lucky Star. He is this based.

Before starting WUG, he actually went and researched Sendai and Idols too, interviewed local Sendai idol groups, researched on famous and popular idols and their histories, scandals etc, talking with prominent people in industry.

He knows what he is doing. You just dont like it, but its not because he is incompetend, but your shit taste or denial.
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Can we talk about how Yoshino is the most beautiful WUG instead?
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Which WUG would you kidnap and keep as a rapekitten?
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Needs more rape, underage prostitution and bald idols. Especially bald idols
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>>100724747
>I'll find a way to exploit Miku.
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>>100724972
Don't you mean Kaya?
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>>100724747
That's okay, AI doesn't have rights. Virtual singing programs even fewer.
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>>100724897

You know Yamamoto's studio for WuG is shit-tier when they can't handle Adobe Photoshop to save time.


source for studio not using Photoshop?
http://www.bestofnhk.tv/?show=Imagine%20Nation%20-%20Japanese%20Animation%20-%202014-01-22%200830.flv
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Uwe Boll : Cinema = Yutaka Yamamoto : Anime

WUG at best will be Postal
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>>100725065
Fuck photoshop, sometimes the oldskool is the best school.
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>>100725042
>AI doesn't have rights
You discriminating against my future android waifu?

Because I swear to god I will fight you.
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>>100725025
Kaya is good, too but not on Yoshino's level.
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>>100724602
>didn't pointed Evangelion as well
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>>100724897
>giving up
What? The opposite - it shows he is up to a challenge. Otaku Idol fans are raging and speving saliva breaking they keyboards and going mental over someone showing their "pure" idols in realistic light.
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>>100725118
You best be joking. It's all about quality and efficiency. If you go out of your way to use something that isn't, you're just being a pretentious asshole who wants to be 'different'.
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>>100724962
Great. Too bad that he doesn't know much about telling a story, pace and tone. You know, things important when you make a film.
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>>100725090
>Yamakan is like Uwe Boll
This fits so well, it's scary.
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>>100725122
She better not have rights, otherwise what will you do when she runs away?
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>>100725042
Except Hatsune Miku passes the Turing test.
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>>100724944
Sudo is not Yakuza. Director is however.

also
>Yakuza in entertainment bussiness
>cliche
How big is your denial really? Bigger than the moon?
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>>100725205
>"pure"

They seem pretty pure to me in this show.

>>100725241
Given that the average teen texter does, I'm not surprised.
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>>100725250
Don't mind him, he doesn't know about the AV industry.
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>>100725232
Android waifus don't run away silly Anon, they are programmed not to.

And you can always discipline them within the confines of the law~
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>>100725196
I'm usually a DFC lover, but Kaya's kayas are too strong.
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>>100725314
>having a phone that can't run
what fun is there in that?
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>>100722298
everyone has *exactly* the same body figure.
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>>100725065
1) Japanese anime industry does not use photoshop or the likes. They have own developed and distributed software for most graphic and video editing purposes.
2) Who needs photoshop when you can just draw in photorealistic quality?
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>>100725250
Of course it's a cliche.
>How big is your denial really?
I'm not in denial.

>>100725296
How is this related?
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>>100725118

at least some XXI-century level techniques like automation is needed so the artist is not too stressed (see the artist's hand on the NHK clip above... it's all wrapped up with medical bandage) and we won't have to hear Yamamoto begging for more body to come to his art studio to finish his project.

and this is coming from someone who hates seeing anime use CGI liberally
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>>100725090
Fuck off, /v/. Yamakan is Scorcese
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>>100725314

Hmm, that raises an interesting question- what will the laws about AI rights look like?

If they allow spanking Miku's delicious rump I'm okay with it
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>>100725480
Exactly, right now he is Scorcese. Maybe one day will evolve into Scorsese.
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>>100725480
>Anyone who disagrees with me is either from /v/ or /jp/
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>>100725250

Sudo sure looks like real low level street gangsta trying to get up there
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>>100722596
The only good idol fan is the dead idol fan.
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>>100725372
A bit of irony
>New Yakuza sim "Yakuza 5" allows you to play a role of Idol Producer
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>>100725520
It would be a crime against humanity to outlaw something like that.
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>>100725373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEeUXPDstC8&hd=1

You are just a pleb.
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>>100725571
Since you mentioned /jp/ without need its likely a freudean slip and thats where you are actually from.
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>>100725602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldPxadNKkaE&hd=1
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>>100722617
Whoa, do you live in the bible belt or something Anon?
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>>100725680
Nice guess but I'm from /int/
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>>100725752
It's a shame that you aren't from /a/.
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>>100725752
You're quite a ways away from /int/. Why the hell did you come here to talk about idolmoeshit? Won't that ruin your image?
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>>100725639
Seeing somebody spending so much time and talent in Tamako hurts.
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why is Minami so best girl?
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>>100725752
This is even worse. Far worse. And infinitely worse if you are actually nip - since INT nips are all right wing morons.
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>>100726000
Hold on a sec, I don't really want to get into /pol/itics here, but what exactly do you think a person on the right is? Because there are very few things worse than being a left winger. I can think of one, being a left winger and an anime nerd.
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>>100725841
Get taste faggot. Tamako Market is a masterpiece.
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>>100726138
Stop with US definitions of left/right. In the world Right means nationalist. Itt Japanese right wing on int - Netto uyoku. Litterally faggots claiming Japan is victim of WW2 etc.
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>>100725880
because slut
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>>100726221
Among other things like their occupation of Manchuria not being as bad as everybody says
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>>100726138
>I don't really want to get into /pol/itics here
If there are any words uttered after making that sentence then its clear you were fucking lying.
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>>100726389
>their occupation of Manchuria not being as bad as everybody says
and they are right
fuck off chink
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>>100726389
MANCHURIA BELONG TO RUSSIA
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>>100726468
Nothing about that sentence implied an opinion either way
Force mseflf
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>>100725373
>see the artist's hand on the NHK clip above... it's all wrapped up with medical bandage
>being this stupid
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>>100726468
Yeah, and Okinawa LOOOOVES japan for 100k volanteuraly assisted suicides to awoid being slaugthered by evul US barbarians that eat children
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>>100726221
There is no consensus on left-right politics that says right wing is about nationalism. Nowhere on earth. If you want to single out a group that you consider to be right leaning, then do so by pointing out what they are (theocrats, nationalists, monarchists, capitalists, whatever) and without mentioning that they are right wing because that is ambiguous and pointless. How the fuck would anyone know which of the many right leaning groups you mean? Right wing contains literally every single political group that is hated by some socialist magician.

Only the left wing is unambiguous in that it is commonly accepted to contain only socialist ideologies, thus you can point out someone is a socialist by calling them a left wing moron.
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>>100725747
Some of us aren't pathetic perverts who need their urges satisfied every moment.
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>>100726754
>only socialist ideologies
In japan Liberals that are for free market etc are actually left wing? You have no idea, really. Typical amerifat.
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>>100726870
Did you try ANN?
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>>100723348
But most girls are incredibly stupid and naive.
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>>100722298
>This entire show is a satire of the exploitation in the idol industry, right?

It appears to be, except for their depiction of idol otakus.
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There are two classic taboo rumors about the Japanese entertainment industry. The first is that organized crime runs the artist management business. There is a lot of evidence to back this up — convicted tax-evading jimusho bosses claiming the need for “underground financing” in the courtroom, bullets fired into management company windows, a well-known historical precedent for entertainment being a yakuza racket, Misora Hibari’s manager being a member of the Yamaguchi-gumi, etc., etc. But if you are a television network or publishing company dependent upon the very same entertainment companies to provide celebrities to attract viewers and readers, you are not exactly going to start blabbing about anything sinister. The entertainment companies are not dumb either, working at all costs to preserve the “wholesome” image. Who would think that the mob runs an industry where smoking a cigarette at age 19 can end your career as an idol?
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>>100727082
The other persistent rumor is that model agencies — especially for gravia idols — prostitute their employees off on the side. A lot of the lower-ranking and newer idols must pay for their own dancing and singing lessons and are allegedly introduced to possible “buyers” by management company employees to secure an extra source of income. There are also apparently hostess clubs directly managed by the modeling agencies where up-and-coming talent can meet television executives and other powerful figures. In the past, there has been a lot of “Marxy, you are paranoid and crazy” in regards to my belief in this gossip. (And not just on this blog. My friend was pounding me on this just yesterday evening.)
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>>100727050

Darnit, I wanted to see idol otakus being exploited!

>Oh, you came here for the event?
>I, um, uh, just
>Oh, you want to shake our hands! I can tell!
>Um, uh, no...
>Ohohoho, girls, we'll all have to shake his hand- SHAKE IT A LOT!
>n...no, help, stay away!
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>>100727142
Kohinata Minako Komukai Minako’s recent confession to these practices, however, is a huge leap forward for anyone wanting to pull back the curtain. I seriously doubt the story will get any legs — any talk of prostituting idols is still a massive taboo in the media, and almost no one has any stake in making the cheery idol business look seedy. Idols are the public face of many respectable businesses and government bureaus, so exposing the dark side of the industry is not just a hit for the management companies, but a hit for the entire Japanese national tatemae.
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>>100727142
>My friend was pounding me
Gigadi
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>>100727191
Many people often think, who cares where the money comes from? These revelations, however, show exactly why organized crime probably should not be free to hold the reigns to the pop cultural industries. They have too much temptation to milk as much money from their employees in any way possible, with basically no chance at legal recourse from their labor. And when the guys who run artist management companies and the guys who run brothels are in the same “fraternal organization,” crossover seems like an obvious occurrence.
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When will KyoAni and Yamakan make amends and finally make the idol anime of our dreams?
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>>100727224
i read that back when gay nightclubs were illegal in the US the mafia ran a bunch of underground gay clubs despite the. despising homosexuals
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>>100726893
Liberals are around the center of the left-right spectrum. They can be left leaning (social liberals), but surprise- surprise, those are less extreme socialists. Stop spewing shit you don't know anything about. Please.

Being from outside of America does not make you superiour, you're just as retarded.
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>>100727499
>Being from outside of America does not make you superiour
You certainly are not making a convincing case for that.
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>>100727381
>when gay nightclubs were illegal in the US the mafia ran a bunch of underground gay clubs
Gays confirmed for criminals.
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>>100727572
I am, for several reasons. First of all, you're saying retarded shit about things you know nothing about.

Left-right spectrum is about social inequality. The left is for social equality, which is synonymous with socialism. Right is about social inequality, which can be anything ranging from free-market to theocracy.

Secondly, I am not an American. So even if you did think that I am wrong and uneducated on the subject, you're working against your own bigoted belief of non-American superiority (European I guess?).

Thirdly, given that neither of us is apparently American, and you're making obviously retarded statements while being bigoted to boot... Maybe non-Americans really are fucking morons - given the sum of our opinions, this thread has 2 morons from outside of America and none from America.

Mathematically, you've lost.
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>>100727499
Where I live, social democrats are considered less extreme conservatives.
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>>100726943
Just because your a sexually active youth does not mean your views are shared by everyone. Forcing them onto anons on an imageboard is just your attempt at fulfilling your ego. Anyone who is different is obviously not in line with your ego and that threatens you.
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>>100726389
Manchura was an empty country, Japan's settlement only improved their condition.
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>>100728088
Sasuga trolling aniki!
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>>100724602
this picture had so many iterations i'm not really sure which was the original one
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>>100724540
>only 1 out of 15 series in that picture is actually good
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>>100728060
The goal of social democrats is establishment of democratic socialism. They are a socialist party. (thus left-leaning)

In America, conservatives are right-leaning, but conservative is another one of those ambiguous terms.

By definition it means that they are adverse to change and want to leave things as they are. Which could point toward your country already being democratic socialism or close to it in terms of policies.
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>>100724540
Really? Who trolls Minami-ke nowadays or ever?
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>>100728111
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP3.HTM

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.TAB3.1.GIF

It seems 2 nukes were not enougth, seeing shitpostes like you exist.
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If one of the girls shave her head as a apologize for having a boyfriend, this will be a 10/10 masterpiece
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>>100728479
>やっぱり指原莉乃も好きですし、峯岸みなみも好きなんですよ。ああいうスキャンダルを起こした、汚れたとファンから思われた後もアイドルをやりぬくところが僕は好きなんです。

Do you realize Yamakan actually appreciated her strong will, right?
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>>100728342
Just going to intrude in
Where I live at least, there is a difference between Social Democrats and Democratic Socialists.
Technically, Democratic Socialists are working in the very long run to implement socialism through democratic means, as an alternative to capitalism.
Social Democrats lean left, but aren't always socialists who want the means of production to be in the hands of the workers, and are quite happy with capitalism provided there are regulations and limits on the market so it doesn't fuck the poor over.
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>satire
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>>100728479
Did she keep the boyfriend?

Idol's start to sound like modern priest virgins dedicated to the care of their god, the consumer.
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>>100728679
>strong will
>mindless puppet of an old perv and yakuzas
Inb4 collectivism, not even Japan supported this crap. The mainstream opinion was terrified for this scandal and even the video was removed from youtube because it was a big shame for Japan that the rest of the world know how its music industry works.
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This is one of these anime that will make me cry in one of the episodes, that's why I probably will drop it halfways
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>>100728777
Please, dont talk sense into american pretending not to be one. He does not know that "right" stands not for "capitalism, freedom and liberty!" but for Fascism
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>>100728811
>Did she keep the boyfriend?
I doubt it.

>Idol's start to sound like modern priest virgins dedicated to the care of their god, the consumer.
That's how it works, an underground cult for ronery nerds. And just like any cult, the gimmick is to give all their money to the cult for a stupid lie that not even the cultists really believe but they close their eyes for pretending it's true because real life is too hard.
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>>100728839
Wow man so cynical and anti-comformist, you sure did a lot of research and I appreciate your deep understanding of Japanese.
The video was removed upon fan's request.
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>>100728994
so is this shit at all like perfect blue? I'd downloading but I'm suspicious that /a/ is blowing shit out of proportions as per usual
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>>100728994
>Idol's start to sound like modern priest virgins dedicated to the care of their god, the consumer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestal_Virgin
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Idol = a false god. It literally means worship something that it isn't what it makes itself to be.
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>>100729007
Are you not tired shitposting in every topic?
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So, when will the sex scandals begin?
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>>100722372
More like painfully boring.
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>>100728777
Both of these are left leaning groups. The way you describe your social democrats, they rely on central planning to regulate industry in order to eliminate social inequality and to protect the "poor". This is textbook socialism.

This is obviously less extreme than actually socializing industry like the far-left ideologies, but they don't need to.

>>100728945
You may stop your damage control, this is an anonymous image board. You don't need to save face. In a day, nobody will remember the stupid shit you said.
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>>100729069
If you mean the Yamakan anime, it's nothing like Perfect Blue
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>Yamakan saving loli sexualization in anime
Other shows, are you even trying?
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>>100728994
I wish I had that png where everyone inside of a train wagon thinks of each other as mindless automas who'll never be as enlightened as themselves because it perfectly describes your post.
Unfortunately I can't find it.
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>>100722298
>not a single blowjob in the entire contest
realistic my ass
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>>100723348
>>100722423
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv163034676
Click "timeshift" to watch.
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>>100729126
Apparently pointing out that someone is talking out of his ass is shitposting now.
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Who is entering the CrunchyRoll WUG costume contest?

>http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-835849
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>>100729311
>edgy because its true
Stop deluding yourself.
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>>100729114
>overthinking wasei eigo

Now please do the same with "albeit" and "cunning", because Nips sure know the intricacies of English language
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>>100722298
I felt pretty guilty masturbating to this scene but I managed to cum anyway which is all that matters.
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>>100729594
>People outside of my in-circle are ALL SO STOOPING OH GAWD
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>>100729260
A Science called politology exists. This science defines such terms as "right-left" political spectrum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics

Like a typical american you are calling everyting not Tea Party "communist/socialist" like idiot.

More over there is not single spectrum for economical, social and nationalist aspects. There cant be.

Economical liberalism is free market. Conservatism - protectionism.
Social liberalism is freedom and no regulations. Conservatism is tradition and state.
Sociaoeconomic left with is equality, right wing inequality.
National liberalism is globalism/internationalism - conservatism is nationalism.
Ideologically - Fascism is right, Capitalism is centrist, while Socialism is left.

US, EU, Asian etc. scale are not comparable, should not be either as they only make sense in regards of local relative political spectrum. Any other use is being a fool and misnaming things.

Plus, you are not fooling anyone claiming you are not american - only amerifats are as dumb to call pretty much everything liberal - socialism/communism. Remnant of cold war brainwashing.
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>>100729758
I would be ashamed of such bad shitposting too.
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>>100729594
>People outside of my in-circle are ALL SO STOOPID OH GAWD
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>>100729817
Nice typo. Calm down on that shitposting man. Might hurt yourself.
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>>100729311
D-dawg they're called Idols. The industry isn't being coy about selling a lie, everyone knows that what they're selling isn't true. It's not edge to say that cults prey on the desperate, those willing to throw away reality.
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>>100726870
I hardly found it sexual or arousing, I just thought it was interesting that you found arousing enough to make you feel awkward, so I proposed the question that you might have repressed sexuality because you're devoutly religious.
There may be other reasons, obviously, and I apologize for making an incorrect assumption if that's the case.

But being that repressed is kind of weird.
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>>100729921
Keep in mind that most people who watch it are only doing so for sexual gratification.
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>>100729311
That's an xkcd comic.
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>implying idols are herbivores
>implying a strong woman can't have sex with other men
>implying strong women using sex as weapon against higher ups is not a good, feminist thing
>implying the only reason to keep this under cover is because if it came out, all the retarded virgin fans who'd go all MUH PURITY and stop giving the idols money
You're all sexists.
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>>100729912
>D-dawg they're called Idols.

Great argument but >>100729627

Also, all life is a lie and escapism.
You read a book or watch a movie, it's escapism.
You read news or listen to a politician, it's escapism.
You shitpost on the Internet trying to convince me of your opinion knowing I'll forgot this discussion ever happened by tomorrow, it's escapism.
The only non-escapism in this world is working a blue collar job for years every day. I hope you'll start doing some productive factory work and face the harsh side reality one day instead of wasting bandwidth pretending to be a world-weary armchair philosopher.
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>>100729311
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>>100730247
>comparing normal hobbies to pathetic otaku
Just stop
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>>100730398
>People outside of my in-circle are ALL SO STOOPID OH GAWD
>And act accordingly to my own pre-established opinion
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>>100729802
This more or less, my understanding is that left/right actually has more to do with social policy then it has to do with economic policy.

Social conservatism and by extension xenophobia and fascism is what defines right-wing politics. Social liberalism conversely is what defines left-wing politics.

I'm also from the United States, I'd appreciate it if you didn't stereotype all of us.
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>>100724540
I love Madoka, but I don't see what distinguishes it from "manchildren" anime.
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>>100725365
>They have own developed and distributed software
Why does Japan use their own software for everything? It would be such a pain to do any computer-based collaboration with a Japanese artist.
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>>100729802
You do realize you're contradicting yourself, and reaffirming several things I told your arse, right?

Not only that but you're continuing your bigoted tirade against Americans.

Stop making a fool of yourself. I don't even understand what the fuck you're trying to sell me at this point or whether you're agreeing with me or not.

>Like a typical american you are calling everyting not Tea Party "communist/socialist" like idiot.
I have never claimed this, which points toward deficiency on reading comprehension on your part. Nor do I get how you equated socialism to communism. Yes, communism is a far-left socialist ideology but these words have different meaning.

>More over there is not single spectrum for economical, social and nationalist aspects. There cant be.
Never said there was. If anyone implied this, it was you by claiming that right wing means nationalist when the left-right spectrum is generally used to refer to social equality.

>US, EU, Asian etc. scale are not comparable, should not be either as they only make sense in regards of local relative political spectrum. Any other use is being a fool and misnaming things.
Why the fuck are you telling me this? You're the one who went around "misnaming" things in the first place by making ambiguous statements which could hardly be understood even in context. If you see a horse, call it a horse not "4 legged mammal".

>>100730525
That's what we are talking about. Socialism isn't an economic policy, it's an all encompassing ideology which covers both economic and social policies.
Implying that socialism only refers to economic policy is an American construct, because they want equality from socialism but are afraid of being called commies.
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Whoever posted that Yamakan's interview on Yahoo News, thank you. It's a blast.
From start to end he does nothing but praising idol fans and bashing anime otaku for being fickle as fuck babies. Ahahah.

Once again /a/ can't be relied upon for shit.
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Worry not, friends, the im@s movie will save us from the evil of Yamakan.
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>>100725065
I can see the guy just thinking WTF Japan the whole time.
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>>100727082
Isn't this need to cover things up partially why Japan's crime rate is so low? I heard a lot of crimes that would usually be reported get swept under the rug.
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>>100722298
No, it's a show about the exploitation of a group of idols. By Yamakan.
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>>100725065
>Ideally I want to follow the group from formation to dissolution

My god what is he going to do!
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>>100722372
it's more of a deconstruction
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>>100730525
>This more or less, my understanding is that left/right actually has more to do with social policy then it has to do with economic policy.
>I'm also from the United States, I'd appreciate it if you didn't stereotype all of us.

Your amerifat Republican Party stereotypes everyone else.
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>TFW based Kaya is the only one expendable enough for a scandal arc and that is why she is not being fleshed out so much yet.
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>>100731299

im gonna give it a good read, but first i need to install these add-ons

>- furigana inerter (mecab japanese must be installed
>- rikaichan
>- html ruby
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>>100733045
>Kaya
>expendable
Say that to me, faggot, not online and see what happens.
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>>100733238
Rikai.com and Hiragana Megane already serve both purposes and are all server-side.
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>>100731299
Apparently he's pretty damn serious about forming an idol group that can appear on Kouhaku like MM and AKB did before, lamenting that this is not the place for standard seiyuu idols to appear.
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>>100733710
Yeah she's done for. As an 18 year old (disgustingly old by Jap standards), most of the obsessive fan market already assume that her hymen has been irreversibly damaged, and that is why when Yamakan wants to save anime with a realisitc scandal, she will be sacrificed.

Screencap this.
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>>100731855
It's one of the reasons. Consider the following: Japans murder rate is comparatively low, while its suicide rate is rather high. Hmm, interesting..

Now, of course we know Japan is a shithole with lots of reasons to kill yourself, but I don't doubt for a second that a significant portion of those "suicides" are labeled that way because investigation is too inconvenient for whatever reason
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>>100734355
Kaya is the purest.
The scandal won't be about her for sure.
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>>100734577
that guy already touched her bum bro. You into NTR?
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>>100734657
Not her fault she's got the sexiest body.
That doesn't make her less pure.
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>>100730902
Because it keeps them independant, which is a good thing.
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>>100722298
None of the characters are interesting, the animation is only decent some of the time and otherwise subpar. The story itself isn't very compelling either. It is probably an attempt to show the idol industry in a more 'realistic' light, but it really would have been better as a documentary.

I think there's an interesting concept, to show a side of the industry that isn't just fluff or intentionally cherrypicking for the sake of sensationalism. The problem is that Yamakan is just a really bad director who comes up with some decent ideas, but has no real vision and his shows all up end being terribly scripted snooze-fests. If it was an informative documentary that wasn't just trying to elicit a gut reaction I'd be more interested, but right now It's just a bunch of bland drama padding and hasn't been all that informative.
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>>100736601
Nice pasta.
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>>100736601
I disagree with all your opinions except "has no real vision". This I don't know yet, because I've not seen enough to make that judgment.
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>>100728312
>1/15 hit rate

Your issue is you don't like anime
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WHY Sendai...
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>>100741797
What am I looking at?
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>>100724540
There are at least 2 series in the wrong place in that pic.
Quite accurate apart notheless.
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>>100741862
He explains why picked Sendai as setting for WUG.
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>>100722476

Don't forget diva-idol anime like this currently out right now
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>>100722731
Edgy as fuck holy shit
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Their future is so bleak.
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This whole fucking thread reeks of shit.
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>>100724085

Contrary to what you may have heard, there is only one attractive female body shape and if you lack it, you won't be scouted as an idol.



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