Even all these years later, is there a single Shonen that has surpassed or even come close to DBZ? Everything before and after just doesn't have that spark that made DBZ unique, special and the most innovative shonen (if not anime/manga) of all time.
Yes. But I'm not going to spoonfeed you. Fuck off.
maybe one piece
One Piece already beat DBZ in the most bought manga and the most watched anime if I remember correctly
oh and One Piece has that "spark that made One Piece unique" yadda yadda yadda.
why hello rip-off series
Want to explain? Dragonball was just journey to the west #524, and DBZ was screaming and powerlevels. Neither of these things were special or innovative.
Stuck between DBZtards and Wan Piss faglords, good grief
Someone call me?
oh you mention One Piece 1 time and you fly off the handle.
I'm hoping this is bait.
Dragon ball remains popular mostly out of nostalgia these days. Prove me wrong.
HxH is a ripoff of DB like how DB is a ripoff of HnK.
nah DB is genuinely good
DBZ is nostalgia-based though
DBZ was trash. Dragon ball was the good one. DBZ, isn't even one of my favorite shounen.
Even SnK is better than DBZ. DBZ isn't even good. Take off your nostalgia goggles.
HnK wasn't any more innovative than DBZ was.
Frankly, DBZ was kind of shit.
Take off the rose-tinted glasses.
That is objectively false. Your own opinion on it aside (though what kind of fag dislikes HnK?) the series influence on Shonen and beyond is indisputable.
It's alright but the fanbase is pretty shitty, almost as bad as the DBZtards. Also fighting shounen anime existed before HnK, like pic related.
Why are people even responding?
You're gonna start complaining about 'moralfags', aren't you.
What? Anyway Goku is a bigger moralfag then Kenshiro so I don't know what you're getting at.
Ha ha ha no.
Can anybody tell me one thing that DBZ did better that wan piss
While HnK may have had a lasting impact on shounen and manga in general, it wasn't entirely original either. It borrowed more thana fair share from the likes of Mad Max movies and Go Nagai manga, particularly Violence Jack.
It was One Piece's primary source of inspiration.
Be more descriptive
Of course it was, that doesn't make it better. Just makes it earlier.
You must be from /v/ if you think DBZ is even remotely good. DBZ is god awful with some of the laziest writing ever seen in battle shounen.
Dragonball, however, stands as one of the best adventure/battle shounen series of all time. It had the right mixture of upbeat adventure, comedy, and mystic kung fu action with robot armies and dinosaur people etc. It was the inspiration for everything great about One Piece.
DBZ just gets forever jerked off by nostalgic 90s kids who can't get over how awesome it was when they were 12 years old. Yeah, lots of dumb shit was cool when you were 12, but it's still stupid shit.
Pretty much this right here.
Did anything do more damage to the anime industry than Toonami?
>still using the "we hate anything popular" meme
The actual fights, the Villains (most of them have god-tier build ups) and the music.
The only thing One Piece has over DBZ is world building, balancing a cast of characters, and the characterization. Worth noting however, is that the last 2 points have been slipping ever since post time-skip. Hoping Oda turns it around soon, because half of the straw hats have become gag characters with less depth than Yamaha
I could have sworn I have read this exact same thread last week.
>Having an impact on the anime industry at all
And no, the Watamote anime doesn't count.
The music in one piece is pretty good. And the fights, while smaller in scale, have alot more creativity. (Exclude Anime Luffy's kamahepunch on ceasear)
>hurr you only hate DBZ because hipsturr
No. Fuck this shitty argument. /a/ revels in popular anime. NGE gets more traction here than anything else ever and it's one of the most mainstream and celebrated anime ever. /a/ slavers over flavor of the month waifus and follows popular trends and currrently airing shows. You think it's a fucking coincidence The super popular LN adaptations have an enduring presence here?
So no, just because people hate your favorite show (and god help you if your favorite show is honestly DBZ) does not mean /a/ hates everything popular. Popular shit is 90% of this board.
>continuation of ripoff of journey to the west with added filler and garbage thrown in
>OMG so innovative!! xDD
you probably still dress up as goku when you
ride the short bus to school in the morning
That pretty much sums it up
invalid argument. DB was as popular as DBZ here in sudacaland. Still, I can see DB being better than DBZ.
Yu Yu Hakusho was better than DB. FMA is the best shonen ever written.
>Shit taste: The thread
I agree it's better overall but is it a better shonen when it actually subverts a lot of shonen tropes?
Hunter x Hunter is the pinnacle of battle shonen, OP.
That's an excellent argument.
One Piece by a lot. Likely several others.
Yeah. It still shares many tropes and characteristics with other shounen anime (particularly One Piece and the original Dragon Ball) so it can be classified as shounen anime.
Saitama of OPM
I watched DBZ for the first time 3 years ago and a loved everything up until Buu Saga which I couldn't bring myself to finish.
If only the battles weren't so fucking bad. Literally 75% of them last 1-2 minutes and are completely one-sided.
DBZ is at the same level of Naruto or Bleach, but because we watched it as kids we dishonestly give it a pass based on nostalgia
>special and the most innovative
So copying chinese novels and then slapping stupid puns everywhere is special huh? I guess for westerners it's unfamiliar but still for someone who's at least a little bit versed in the asian culture it's pretty basic stuff.
Oh geez a one piss fangirl, how cute.
wan piss is better
Scryed is objective better.
Deal with it nerd