Spoilers for the final chapter of A-drei's manga are out.
This reminds me of L-elf being the miracle of universes
This smile is worth protecting.
Some BD/DVD/tanko info.
I sure hope the wait for raws will be short.
This smile is just unfair. I'm surprised Audrey didn't jump him right there.
Info on BD/DVD bonus drama CDs:
-Vol 4- the time at Karlstein when Hitler Youth killed F-sechs
-Vol 6- takes place half a year after the final battle with Cain, L-elf and A-drei reunion
>Hitler Youth will be getting focus in the drama CD's
>It won't be full of shenanigans
>L-elf and A-drei reunion
Will they explain how L-Elf became a priest?
He's not a priest. He was just wearing regalia.
Just in case anybody was interested, episode 29 of the web-radio is up.
>L-Elf genuinely smiling
Too bad they didn't have time to put this stuff in the anime.
>-Vol 6- takes place half a year after the final battle with Cain, L-elf and A-drei reunion
Jesus. With all the things in the epilogue that needed expanded on, this should have never even been considered.
It's clear they care nothing for filling in the holes and are just desperately begging for fujobucks.
There's probably going to be more than one track, so we can hope they expand on other things as well. Probably.
>Looking for the light
>Let's fight along aside each other, comrade
Damnit, why don't you use 友達!
Because they were already homodachi's.
It's L-elf discussing the aftermath with his remaining friend. If they're going to expand on bits of what happened after the last battle, this is an appropriate setting for bringing it up.
Would being a "war buddy / comrade" be considered as an upgrade or downgrade to being a homodachi?
It's going back to this. Same line and everything.
L-Elf is the main character now that Haruto is dead as well, the other characters will be involved somehow I bet. Wouldn't put it past this happening before the wedding.
This show will never let me move on.
Unconfirmed rumor, but supposedly A-drei's manga implies the wedding was 6 months after the final battle, so that's probably the occasion they're reuniting for.
The ride never ends.
And here I was foolishly hoping one of them would be used for Shoko and better explain / bring actual closure to her drama.
At least having it announced early I know not to expect anything.
There's still a chance they'll cover it, not like A-Drei and L-Elf will chat for the entire drama cd.
Maybe Undertaker or the LN adaptation will fix that. I just hope Valkyrie of the Maiden patches the Saki's "I'm so happy that you'll be losing your memories, Haruto" line the same way it fixed Haruto's words are more serious.
I doubt the 4koma is even set in the same universe as the series.
Dorssia confirmed as ally to L-Elf's nation. L-Elf confirmed as leader.
Would be nice if they did a director's cut for the final BD and included all of this, very doubtful though.
Kriemhild is calling him Your Royal Highness. It's possible he's the Crown Prince now. Not the King yet though.
Nobody cares about Shoko. They already admitted they don't know how to write her and leave it at it.
Since the Royal family is back in power he would have regained his status, makes since she'd refer to him like that now.
She's still calling him A-Drei though, guess they never bothered to think of a real name for him.
The title used is a touch higher than regular prince, but as a crown royalty that isn't sovereign yet. It wouldn't surprise me that his involvement in the last coup and royal restoration got him higher on the succession.
>in b4 that anon who complains the non L-Elf characters should have run the country and would TOTALLY have Dorssia support
I find it interesting all the CD dramas contain L-Elf (even in a minor role) but Haruto's missing in half of them.
They probably will. The bodyjacking CD had multiple tracks, but only one scenario. I'm sure if this one was going to have something else it would have been mentioned.
The idea of Audrey and L-Elf discussing the futures of their countries and L-Elf casually bringing up starting a galactic empire with some students is amusing though.
Shoko isn't even hard to write for. That was just a bullshit excuse they came up with because they didn't want to admit they screwed up hard.
All she needed was a quick back and forth in her mind, struggling with herself if the safety of the entire student body was worth the cost of Haruto. Also show her considering the possibility of ARUS lying, but ultimately giving in because she saw no other option to save people and had the blind faith in Haruto she was clinging to shattered.
She also needed at least a short scene in the epilogue with her apologizing to the others and admitting her mistake. Instead of it never being brought up again and brushed aside like a case of spilled milk.
>The idea of Audrey and L-Elf discussing the futures of their countries and L-Elf casually bringing up starting a galactic empire with some students is amusing though.
From what I can tell from the manga >>100699304 is that A-Drei is fully on board with creating a world where humans and Magius can coexist, their friendship and alliance between the two countries is probably what made the Empire possible.
>She also needed at least a short scene in the epilogue with her apologizing to the others and admitting her mistake.
Hell, even just having her repeating "sorry" over and over again while she sobbed into Haruto's helmet in front of Akira would have helped.
>that short skirt
>that glimpse of legs at the top of the page
So he truly married L-Elf and Doctor Tokishima made them a child.
Is that his child or that is just shota-Drei?
Wow, so they give 0 fucks of the other characters. They should have made it clearer from the first episode instead of trying to pander to all possible kind of watchers.
Truly one of the worst planned anime.
Her body was built for breeding
Shota A-drei flashback.
You're fucking retarded.
You again? Are you not tired of wasting your time calling everyone retarded?
Me again what? I only called you retarded personally. There are already 3 drama cds exclusively for the Sakimori students. One mixed. Go and listen to them rather than whining because the Hitler Youth got 2 dedicated to them.
I see only a retard, and that is you. You know Haruto and Shoko are two of the few characters who has no fucking past, right?
You know that's because they likely never got one established? Like A-drei's name. It wasn't important, so they didn't think about it.
Yeah, because the real name of a secondary character has the same relevance as the past of the supposed protagonist and main heroine. It is not like their bond was supposed to be one of the main themes of the anime. Not explaining and focusing on it is not caring at all of it, considering almost everyone has a past in that anime.
> so they didn't think about it.
There are the sketches with them, just like there are the sketches with L-Elf and Lieselotte and they tried to put a flashback without giving you any other info. It was important and they did not care, that is it.
She barely had over one minute of screentime on average this cour. A-drei seems to be far more important than she is, specially because he helps to put the Empire on motion according to his manga while Shoko quietly says crying hugging Haruto's helmet. Heh.
Haruto's past wasn't important or even interesting. You saw a glimpse of it when his memories shattered. It seemed a normal and boring childhood.
Because that is his manga, not Shoko's manga and you have only part of the chapter. (But just in case you forgot: in the anime you see Shoko trying to befriend the alines and Saki fighting. Shoko is supposed to be important, but they give 0 fucks to make you feel her important).
>It seemed a normal and boring childhood.
And still in that past there should be his love with Shoko, which was like L-Elf's love with Lieselotte: the main reason they acted.
Boring or not, that was important.
>CD 1: all cast before episode 1.
>CD 2: filler before Saki's performance with L-elf's snarky commentary.
>CD 3: Focused on Satomi during the elections, co-starring Kyuuma, L-Elf, Nanami and Shoko.
>CD 4: Focused on the pilots jacking thing. With L-Elf and all the Neo Jior cast.
>CD 5: L-Elf's past in Dorssia.
>CD 6: L-Elf's future in his nation.
>(But just in case you forgot: in the anime you see Shoko trying to befriend the alines and Saki fighting. Shoko is supposed to be important, but they give 0 fucks to make you feel her important).
That's 200 in the future. When maybe she gets a brain surgery to be intelligent. Right now she's a fucking kid who knows shit and spends her screentime freezing and crying.
You're getting the picture: Shoko's past and present are irrelevant. Her future is important but nobody cares about that.
>And still in that past there should be his love with Shoko,
There's a track in CD 1 already covering why he's attracted to Shoko: he envies her.
The scripwriters want to write about L-Elf. Not about Haruto and Shoko. Wasn't this clear to you? They are dedicating a CD drama to his past and another to his future.
> but nobody cares about that.
And Shoko was supposed to grow like the others since she was relevant. Your point being? Because so far you are not pointing out why I am a retard thinking they give 0 fucks of her.
>There's a track in CD 1 already covering why he's attracted to Shoko: he envies her.
Which is nothing on their bond. That is like L-Elf's: Lieselotte is my light. That monologue doesn't give them a past, like almost any other character got one. Even Yamada has more past than those two, and his relationship with Nobu wasn't relevant or interesting at all.
Did you read my first post?
I did. I'm pointing out L-Elf is the other main character and the fan favorite by the writers and the fanbase. Why would they waste time to force themselves to write about Shoko when they obviously didn't want to?
>Which is nothing on their bond.
Haruto has a monologue of why he fancies Shoko. His description of her on present tense. There's nothing about 'falling as a child' as L-Elf did (which was love at first sight) but seems recent.
They don't need some intense backstory. All the things he said she were, were show briefly on those pictures and her s1 behavior. Their backstory wouldn't add anything about the world canon as say L-Elf's would because it shows Karsltein more deeply.
>Why would they waste time to force themselves to write about Shoko when they obviously didn't want to?
Because they wasted time on her back in S1?
If they are going to ignore the main heroine of the story, there is no need to make her look important or a likeable character for an entire season, they could just kill her in episode 1.
And your point is moot, Satomi was nobody's favorite character, yet he got plenty of focus with a good part of a drama CD on him.
You are going in circles.
They did not care to show anything on their past, but they made you catch there were important moments, like the promise in the cave. Not expanding those moments is not giving a fuck of your heroine.
For the sake of the story.
Valvrave is a mess because they had wrong priorities.
>Story is a mess because they don't focus on my waifu and my self-insert
Shoko was never my waifu.
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Looks like there will be another event and a BD will have a ticket.
I hope it will be a flop.
Please don't hate Valvrave.
The way you want her to be relevant says otherwise. Also, heroine means MC's love interest in Japan and with the way the love drama was handled, you're an idiot if you hope Shoko's role will be anything but a 'heroine'.
You don't have to be a waifufag to ask for a better conclusion of her arc.
Got my copy of Valvrave Modelling Guide.
Fucking Jews. There is nothing in that guide.
DHM pages are way more interesting, there is a kit of manned and unmanned Waffe Gigant + a kit of Jin's Kagerou with its special equipment (I thin they used a piece of Hito's shield to make the blades on its arms, and those look really awesome... too bad those pics are not included in the Modeling Guide, way to make that booklet useless).
What story? It's more important we know of L-Elf's past and his future than of a dead guy who forgot his past and an important fodder girl nobody likes anymore.
>And your point is moot, Satomi was nobody's favorite character,
That's wrong. He was one of the favorites of the other main writer.
I know, and that is called incompetence and not being professional.
So, he fucked l-elf?
Yes. Good end.
This will be the cover of the 2nd A-drei volume.
BD/DVD vol. 8 top image is up.
BD/DVD vol. 9 cover is up as well.
Both are fine.
Make your bets for the remaining covers.
Next cover will have Lieselotte but I don't know who else. Amadeus?
Lieselotte and Kriemhild?
Sure. Next one will be Thunder and Q-vier. Last one will be Cain and Prue.
Lieselotte, Kriem and then Cain with Prue.
Lieselotte for volume 10.
Inuzuka and Thunder for volume 11.
Cain and Prue for volume 12.
Inuzuka already has a cover. It'll be Q-vier and Thunder.
Inuzuka has already a cover.
The only ones who got individual covers are Haruto L-Elf, A-drei and Akira. Is there favoritism going on?
I don't want to think they see Q-vier as a relevant character enough to steal a cover from a volume he barely shows up but I wouldn't put it past them.
Volume 11 could also be Haruto with Shoko while volume 10 could have Lieselotte and L-elf.
>cover from a volume he barely shows up
A-Drei was sure relevant in episode 9 and 10.
And we are still missing Satomi and Takhi BTW.
Considering that Haruto is included in that list I highly doubt it. Then again they were obligated to give him his own since he is the MC, right?
Favoritism? In my fujobait anime? Impossible, anon!
One is a girl.
33,3% vs 66,7%.
That's why I said "relevant character". A-drei is more relevant than Q-vier, relevant enough to steal a cover. Looking back using A-drei for that volume makes sense, he wouldn't have gotten one cover otherwise.
Satomi and Takahi should have gotten volume 13, I doubt they'll be getting one of the missing covers.
>he wouldn't have gotten one cover otherwise.
Seems a bit of contraction, if he is more relevant of other characters, but whatever.
Two are the MCs.
So 50% and 50%
Favoritism: L-Elf, A-Drei
Akira because she was included in the OP-pilot sequence after the original broadcast.
Anon, it is not favoritism if the anime is fujobait and they use characters to pander.
The episodes where he's relevant overlap with more appropriate cover-characters. Aina's death vs reunion with L-elf, Akira taking unit 6 vs Module invasion, Marie's past vs Karlstein days, Cain and Prue vs teaming up with L-elf. He got the only cover he could have.
>L-Elf, the other MC
>not Akira, who is even less important than A-drei
>less important than A-drei
Why do you claim that she is less important than A-Drei?
I want to cum inside Kriem.
I want to cream inside Eruerufu.
Whose hand is it?
Why do you claim she is? Akira is X-eins tier.
L-Elf, that is the scene where he puts his old uniform on from the PV.
Now let's hope to see Cain facing Saki in the manga.
Unless they change the background that's not possible.
She isn't, she actually got the character development who conveyed the most the message of the anime: kids must learn to talk.
And as a soldier she accomplished more than A-Drei and X-Eins put together, since she saved the Module, saved the shuttle, helped in the scape and hacked the TV stream, meanwhile X-Eins and A-Drei just waited days before realizing the truth, killed three regular soldiers (fucking wow, I was looking to see how strong they were and we got nothing) and destroyed part of Cain's weapon and Yamada's arm (shit, sure it is hard to fight a monkey).
A-Drei is relevant only in the epilogue, which says a lot about his real relevance since the staff was clearly not interested in it.
>broadcasted Haruto's first fight
>saved the day in episode 12
>broadcasted the big reveal in episode 23
Even the background here >>100715462 is changed though.
That never had a background in the preview.
Looks like the dialogues in the drama CD will be written by Okouchi and there will be Saki too.
>in the drama CD
So did X-eins. He went from a Cain fanboy who was a sticker-to be calculating to a hothead who wanted to kill Cain. He had a backstory revealed too.
She is X-eins tier. Deal with it, waifufag.
X-eins was one of the smartest enemies they confronted who kicked them around in numerous situations if it hadn't been by L-Elf and had the information that let L-Elf actually have SOMETHING to broadcast about. His distraction in the Cain battle saved Haruto's life twice and eliminated Cain's major weapon.
Again, what are you trying to point out huh?
Waifufags are so in denial she was as relevant as A-drei? A-drei and Saki are on their own tier with their own manga spin off. Thinking Akira, who is one of my favorite too, is just as important is completely and absolutely delusional.
A-drei = Saki
Q-vier = Thunder
H-neun = Jewbro
X-eins = Akira
L-Elf = Haruto
Are you doing it on purpose or what?
Last one. Also A-drei is the leader of the royalists.
What do you mean? I'm only saying the uniform scene didn't have a background while the Cain and Saki scene were set in one of the palaces. Saki and Cain are in a space ship during the execution so they would have to change the background.
So did Akira, with the detail that Akira did not die like a moron because of muh revenge and she played a major role in the battles, unlike X-Eins. He was only relevant in the battle where he died and he got one of the lamest death of the 2013.
Deal with it fangirl.
Nobody is denying Akira did shit, smartass. Did you even read what I put or not?
>hurrr dying means he's less important
Shoko is more important than Haruto then? Are you fucking kidding me?
That scene had a background too: it was a generic polychromatic one not this one >>100715462
Same for Saki: generic background of a place related to Cain.
Just like the redraw H-Neun's scene from the PV or the background where Hito used the Impact Booster.
>mad neckbeard detected
It's ok. A-drei is getting cd dramas with his manga while Akira didn't get shit.
Just like we pointed out: Akira did more than A-Drei. It is your denial that is strong, not mine.
It's set months after Cain's death, A-drei has become the leader of the Dorssia rebel faction (the royalists) and he meets Saki and L-Elf. During the reunion, there'll be exploration of their thoughts/feelings for the bond that unites them.
>Shoko in charge of being relevant
This is set 6 months after the battle with Cain when L-elf and Saki visit A-drei. I think. Curiosity: the title is similar to one of Haruto's lines in episode 8 during his sugar and coffee comparison ("tastes just fine" or "the right flavor").
He's the leader of a rebel army but it doesn't specify if it's the royalist faction.
Akira did more than Shoko, but Shoko is more important. Lielosette did more than Shoko but Shoko is more important.
Being important doesn't mean "actions." Akira acted like a plot device except in the latest episodes of the first cour.
The rebel army are the royalists...or perhaps a new faction with royalists+new defectors.
I think you should rewatch the anime since Shoko did a lot. And a lot more than Lieselotte.
Lieselotte saved L-Elf. Without L-Elf, the plot wouldn't have happened as it did.
Then we should thank Lieselotte's mom. She did really a lot for this story.
Different anon here. If you're suggesting X-eins was the one who handed over info for L-elf to broadcast, you might be mistaken. L-elf shared a magius list, not the earring audio.
Lieselotte's body was irrelevant.
L-Elf didn't know hitler was a magius. Cain said that X-eins was the one who had the infiltration which allowed L-Elf to do shit. L-Elf STILL had the contacts and organized it.
It wasn't, because L-Elf could be saved only by the princess.
>>100715961 x >>100715875 OTP
Are you saying the ACTION of saving L-Elf isn't the most relevant action anyone did in this show?
The show ran on L-Elf. Shoko could have stayed quiet and L-Elf would have carried on his plan in episode 4. Her only real important action was the Akira one.
But Lieselotte did far more like giving info about the Phantom and the Magius existence info dump with the Council one and saving the Earth Team with the cost of her life.
Shoko saving grace was Akira moment inspiration.
And then even her death had positive ramifications. Not only she inspired L-Elf for his vision and the royalists uprising.
Shoko inspired jackshit. Haruto reached to his conclusion because of his own inner self and nothing Shoko related, ironically.
Are they still not in charge of Dorssia?
There was a fight for control in Dorssia. It's a civil war.
Probably old regimen/controlled Council puppets vs rebel faction led by A-drei.
Everything Shoko did was irrelevant though. If she didn't call independence, didn't run for president and didn't act like a president nothing much would change. Maybe less students would have died.
>L-Elf would have carried on his plan in episode 4
Have you perhaps missed the fact L-Elf didn't know at all what Cain was and proposed an alliance with ARUS? Have you missed how without Haruto and the students Hitler Youth would have been jacked by Magius without any effort?
Shoko did a lot: she was the motivation people like Haruto and Marie fought and it was thanks to people like them that they were able to uncover the truth.
Even Saki was influenced by her words. People like Satomi grew thanks to Shoko too.
She was one of the most relevant character in the anime, but the staff clearly gave shit to stress the concept a little more, but still she is.
>Haruto reached to his conclusion because of his own inner self and nothing Shoko related
That inner self was the Magius, who was born thanks to Shoko in episode 1.
Friendly reminder that her whole old life was destroyed.
>That inner self was the Magius, who was born thanks to Shoko in episode 1.
3/10 made me read and take your post seriously until the very end.
The inner self is black color we know represents the curse and asks why he is born.
Totally not intended to be the Magius part.
Shoko was a good cheerleader.
Too bad that she stopped doing that in S2.
I wish he was in charge instead of the loser we got.
>who was born thanks to L-Elf in episode 1.
So... you have nothing.
Don't bully Haruto.
S2 Haruto deserved it.
I wish Q-Vier had lived. It would have changed literally nothing to the outcome of the anime, such a fucking waste of a cute boy.
You are saying it as if Haruto was a problem.
Stuff like the shit here >>100717402 was a problem.
Q-Vier did nothing wrong.
Out of all the people L-elf took to meet A-drei, I wonder why he took Saki? I would have thought he'd take someone like Satomi. Maybe she's going to thank him for releasing her.
Because she's the First Lady.
S2 Haruto was better than S1 Haruto who was fucking annoying except in two episodes.
Because Saki was the only JIORian pilot who "worked" with and knew A-Drei.
And? Satomi and Takahi are even less relevant than Q-Vier. They won't be getting a cover.
Besides, they already wasted the epilogue on their wedding which is far more than they deserved.
He might have taken someone else along with them. The particle used between L-elf and Saki (や) could imply there's more.
That makes sense. He probably took all the ministers with him.
Hopefully. Saki is just the only one they need to specifically mention by name because BUY THE BDS.
Though I wonder if that would include Shoko too.
I wonder what the twist will be.
Saki was jacking L-Elf
There is already a twist: Satomi has a descendant.
amiami preorders include ticket events
Yes, the ticket in inside the covers.
thanks, preordering it right now
the event is on Easter so I might go
At the end L-Elf will mention he has to hurry home because his wife was making jelly bars.
L-elf can't hide his pregnancy anymore.
Reminder that Iketani said they needed two cour to expand the plot and develop the characters.
Your discussion about how relevant/not relevant Shoko was is pointless because the staff made her the heroine of the story promising you to give her development.
You don't need 24 episodes to develop (badly) your characters if your main cast is made up only by 4 characters and if your plot sucks dicks and is just a Gundam with alines. Unless your staff is made up by retards, that is it.
So she jacked L-elf, and then took her unconscious body with her to visit A-drei? Sounds like something she'd do.
Reposting the two samples for the last chapter.
>the anime ended but there's plans to continue expanding "Valvrave" in the future
I'm not sure if it's happening.
S3 with Shoko as the new protag confirmed. Also she and Saki have a slap fight at one fight.
at one point*
Shoko = MC
Saki = cool rival
Akira = love interest
I'm not sure if I want more.
It's only Saki because MUH PANDERING and the three most popular characters together.
Then Saki will become A-Drei' waifu while he still has a secret steaming homo relationship with L-Elf.
I wouldn't mind; however, get another writer (maybe an assistant or something) to control Okouchi.
Maybe I'll be able to enjoy it now that Haruto is dead.
I am if it means more backstory coverage, silly dramas and moon festival.
Ikeya sure is a delusional producer.
Haruto...had a hard life.
No one wants Saki though. Even Akira still has Shoko.
He had a normal, happy life. He just had it shitty during the series because he didn't want to share the curse.
>No more L-Elf.
Shoko is third most popular though.
He was only doing his job.
He just happened to do it with a smile.
She was during S1. It obviously changed during S2.
I worded that very poorly, it doesn't literally mean they're going to expand the future setting but that they have plans to work with Valvrave again in the future.
Don't get your hopes high, I bet it's another spin-off like Undertaker.
>Shoko was third most popular
Fixed. They need to make a new poll.
That is the same thing they said for MJP. It is only a possibility.
And they are expanding it beyond the TV series: we still have two drama CDs.
Nothing more, they are just trying to not lose more people interested in the title, but I hope they stop working on that because only a reboot can fix that crap.
>only a reboot can fix that crap
Isn't that from the discarded S2 PV?
It wouldn't be the first time.
It looks like it.
I don't know you're too feel when I think that that's Audrey's hand.
Final chapter spoilers translation attempt.
>Even if what lies ahead is different
>The heartbeats are connected with each other
>... Just like I thought...
>[ The one who shot me was not L-elf― ]
>... I suppose you do
>Your Highness A-drei
>Module 77 has appeared on sight
>The communications have been dealt with, proceed to land
>No matter how many years it takes, I...
>Will take Dorssia's proud soul back
>And return it to my country that once was full of peace!
>You're still the same as always
>This time I'll cooperate
>I want to see it too
>The “world where magius and humans can coexist” you wish for
>I'm counting on you
>Our respective “light”
>Let us battle together, my brother!
>The one who betrayed
I thought the homodachi scene was cheap, but this is kinda worse.
Minor nitpick, but I would go with comrade instead of brother.
Well, they did live and work together for 10 years, so he has an excuse.
Other than that, I do agree with >>100730085
children with mental problems due to abuse go to heaven even if said mental problems cause harm to others
It is still cheap and fujo-pandering of the worst level. I hope they enjoy their OTPs, but if Sunrise/Okouchi wants to depict strong bonds like friendship and brotherhood they/he needs to learn a lot, because that is just pandering nothing else.
There's nothing off about them being comrades.
Again, the way Valvrave used is not the right way to depict scenes like these >>100699410 >>100699471 if they wanted the viewers to enjoy the characters growing up and their development - or whatever Okouchi said in his interviews. That is just tossing random scenes that should have happened at 3/4 of the anime, so the viewer could enjoy and understand the development. Those are just pandering and a big "now we will let you imagine whatever the fuck happened later because we can't into characters".
Brother(-in-arms) sounded more fitting than comrade for this particular page but I think I'll be following your advice. As a non-native English speaker I didn't realize it could be misread this easily.
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At least he can understands how fanservice works and is able to make good scenes.
Even worse: Mari Okada
It is still better, at least we can hope for a new AKB0048 or Simoun.
This truly saddens me.
These smiles are the miracles of the universe.
I am waiting for Kriemhild to appear in Symphogear.
Even better that she's wearing this >>100699191 skirt.
I hope someone will rip the summit DVD soon.
And apparently they didn't include the live part...
I promised I would have ripped it ASAP, have a bit of faith in me, anon ;_;
Okay, I'll wait.
>you'll never be a pretty prince with Kriem following you around in a slut skirt calling you "your highness"
I want to cum all over L-elf's ahoge.
I want to cum all over L-elf's back.
I want to cum all over L-elf's cravat.
I don't want to cum anywhere on L-Elf because I am not a faggot.
This. Get away from threads, fags.
I want to wipe all the cum off L-Elf and throw him into a warm bath.
I want to cum all over L-elf's warm bath.
I want to cum in Saki's hair.
>Not being little girls
You guys have to try harder.
Get in line.
I wish Shoko was my wife.
This is not a shitposting thread.
The only shitposter here is you.
What's your favorite episode and why?
Mine is episode 8. It has cute Liese flashbacks, a touching scene with Mother Land, Haruto taking the contract while making coffee and sugar puns, Audrey and his boat, Satomi trying to do something, L-elf piloting a Splicer and doing god mode things.
>I wouldn't mind; however, get another writer (maybe an assistant or something) to control Okouchi.
There were already assistants working on this project, if you read the credits, and it's a bit silly to lay the blame only on him for that exact reason.
Episode 11 because it has the best character interactions.
>Again, the way Valvrave used is not the right way to depict scenes like these >>100699410 >>100699471 if they wanted the viewers to enjoy the characters growing up and their development - or whatever Okouchi said in his interviews. That is just tossing random scenes that should have happened at 3/4 of the anime
I disagree. From what the show established, although this is clearly separate from the show, it wouldnt' be that difficult to imagine how they'd do that. I don't think it's random.
Maybe it would have been better if he didn't try to end every single episode with a twist. It would have helped since characters wouldn't have had to act out of character for the sake of drama.
I was searching Animesuki for the rumored Ikeya interview and all I found were vague comments posted by that one retard who keeps spreading fake info, so don't trust any of it.
The rumors are more or less the same on /a/, unless there are new ones: Shoko is hard bla bla bla love triangle from nowhere with L-Elf, we would like to do more Valvrave.
How was S1 Haruto more annoying than the MUH CURSE guy from S2?
Shoko should be already Hito's third pilot.
The only thing confirmed here was the triangle. The Shoko being hard to write thing came from Animesuki or at least I never saw a scan here. From what I see this user uses japanese site rumors as source so yeah, I'm not trusting any of this bullshit.
>The only thing confirmed here was the triangle.
I still haven't seen a translation or the full page and I am still calling it bullshit until someone posts a valid source, since there was nothing similar to a triangle with L-Elf in the anime.
Shoko hard to write comes from here too, as the triangle, those rumors were posted more or less in the same days.
IIRC, it was actually the same day that appeared.
I'll look for it in the archive right now.
Maybe the same retard posted those over here. I can't believe how many people believe in this shit without confirming first.
I think it must be the same retard who posted them here. I can't believe how easily people believe in this shit without confirming first.
Thanks moot now I feel like a retard myself.
There was this scan that popped up in the same thread the Shoko stuff started. Supposedly it pretty much confirmed L-Elf x Shoko or something.
Is there a translation?
This is the only one I found in Animesuki and it looks like the same page as yours.
>Is there a translation?
There were a few responses to the original post >>99890458, but it's hard to tell if anyone responding could actually read moon or were just assuming it was related the previous rumors. This one >>99891203 seems the most reliable.
The part you can read completely talks about Shoko was/is a difficult character and that they changed her.
The text that's cut off below mentions Shoko and L-Elf.
Thanks, it looks like everyone was making guesses.
Basically talks about how it was difficult to decide how Shoko would be (visuals, etc.) in planning.
Asked to say something to the viewers hoping for more. Basically "the two boys' story came to a close, but there's still more that can be done with the world".
>Basically talks about how it was difficult to decide how Shoko would be (visuals, etc.) in planning.
>q: were there any particular snags or hurdles?
T: the hairstyles. many of Hoshino's characters have hairstyles that are difficult to put in motion (laughs). Shoko gave me the hardest time; her design took a long time to finalize. she's the main heroine after all, and she's the character she is today because we put that much thought into her.
So if it depends on this guy we won't be seeing Haruto or L-elf again and have Shoko as the MC doing other things?
I'm sure L-Elf will still be around regardless of what direction they go in and who takes Haruto's MC spot. The staff have proven themselves completely incompetent with S2, but even they should realize a theoretical S3 would bomb without him.
Hito's pilot should not be the MC anymore.
But then how will they sell the toys?
So it's just talking about her being difficult visually? Nothing about her being difficult to write for?
Share the MC spot between the main pilots.
>Shoko as the MC doing other things?
Of course. It's pretty much confirmed that the writers love her so much.
I doubt they'll do anything without Haruto. Maybe something about the undertaker guys. Bleh
What's wrong with the Undertaker guys (and girl)?
>I doubt they'll do anything without Haruto.
Haruto is pretty replaceable, actually. Anybody in the show could have taken his spot for the series and it wouldn't have made much of a difference.
>all pilots share Hito
>all pilots feed on L-elf because they take Haruto's deal
>they all end up jacking him for a couple of hours every week
>or everyone picks a human jack victim from the named cast to feed on when it's their turn to pilot and jack that one instead
Godamn it Haruto, why couldn't you share?
That would be the best. As a toy advertisement, VVV was pretty shitty. Hito was the only mech allowed to do anything after the initial appearance unless it involved dying in the process.
Nothing. There's nothing good about them either.
They hate fun.
For the writers, making an entire season without Haruto would be admitting that he was a failure.
He is dead. There is no reason to bring him back.
I get the feeling they wanted to take Haruto out but L-elf wouldn't let them.
>they plan Haruto's suicide
>when they're done writing they realize L-elf talked him out of it
>they plan to have Haruto quit piloting because he's scared
>when they're done writing they realize L-elf talked him into piloting
Sasuga Eruerufu. The only way they could stop him was to have Haruto jack his body and kill himself in it.
VVV never really did touch the jacking ability that much. Drama CD 04, at least, showed how things could have been.
Just imagine the potential wacky spinoff that could make.
>Thunder jacks random Module 77 girls like Iori
>Jewbro, tired of stopping Thunder on a regular basis, tires to rope in him to some money making scheme
But they already admitted he was a failure and he died for it. That was the entire point of his character.
I'm finding pics I never saw before when shuffling through my VVV folder.
So we Katanagatari now?
That's adorable. Did you save the source?
Why isn't this canon?
That would be giving Haruto far more credit than he ever deserves.
Sorry anon I didn't. IIRC it was in the background of a pixiv account, I don't think you'll easily find it.
One's lusting after a corpse's dick, while the other is lusting after Dorssian dirt.
Damn, no luck in that case. Thanks anyway.
I don't know but it should be
What do you mean, "isn't"?
But that's wrong.
Saki is so pure she stays faithful to her first even after 200 years
A-Drei only wants L-Elf's dick
Keep the hope alive anon
Because they only met in the 3/4 of the story and both of them have a different person they're interested in?
It's still cute
A-drei loves Dorssia. Possibly even more than L-elf.
A-Drei does not love dirt. It is too dirty.
Dorssian clay is okay, though.
Did Shoko, L-Elf, Pino, or Saki "win" the Harutobowl?
No he does, don't let the fujos tell you otherwise.
Besides pic related is L-Elf's one and only true love
You wish. The staff doesn't even care about her character and popularity. Why would they pair her with best boy?
They won different parts.
Shoko won psychologically
Saki won physically
L-elf won metaphysically because Haruto forgot the previous two
He considered him a good friend, so it was still love. This doesn't mean it was romantic though.
There were others in L-elf's life too, you know.
You talking shit about Yokan motherfucker?
You forgot Pino who won his runes.
Haha, disregard my post >>100749916. I really need to sleep.
Truly the only OTP.
And I though fucking with yurifags was fun, fujoshits are on a whole other level
Doesn't count as a win because most of the runes are spent in the robots
I want to have sex with Pino
No, you're right. They completely ignored yokan-chan after shoving it down our throats.
You don't love your friends? I'm sorry to hear that.
Don't be jealous just because Gun-chan has always been there for L-elf.
It's way out of your league.
I wanted to see all of them wear their earrings.
The brim of light in L-Elf's darkness.
What the fuck is that anyway? Shit with lettuce and half of a lunchables?
It only looks cute on L-elf.
Look at that, it's unacceptable. Sitting outside the door without a single interaction. Good job, Okouchi.
Yeah, L-elfxYokan forever.
Come on, we were never seen L-elf make up with Yokan-chan. At least, we still Gun-chan and Knaifu is with L-elf during the Attack on Fuhrer.
Curry without the rice, a piece of lettuce, two slices of tofu and a chocolate cookie stick. Plus yokan-chan.
Completely wasted in S2. All that development in S1 and they think showing it once on a plate is supposed to be closure?
>Gun-chan and Knaifu is with L-elf
Truly the best OTP.
Aren't you dead?
She's just in a coma.
What does "do you believe in human beings" mean
think char aznable vs. amuro ray
Only if you consider half of the cast dead as well.
It means the writers are laughing at us for watching their shitty show.
>Do you have faith in humans?
= do you believe humans are good and won't do you any harm
At least, the manga portrayed Yokan-chan better.
>inb4 bullshit about manga not being canon to sink this ship
I don't care if you call me a delusional faggot, this is my OTP.
Non-canon manga meant to pander to Youkanfags.
inb4 Youkan-chan is with L-elf in the last Drama CD
At least Gun-kun actually got to do something in S2.
Get out or you will be purged.
Youkan-chan didn't do anything in S2 but she always did her job in S1. Gun-kun couldn't even lay a scratch in S1.
>Gun-kun couldn't even lay a scratch in S1
Confirmed for not watching the show.
So the hand is either L-elf or A-drei's. They sure have feminine hands.
That's an exaggeration. Just because Gun-kun isn't shown onscreen doesn't mean she left L-elf's side. I mean, she was with L-elf when he and Shoko talked to notTomino and Shoko's father.
I want to touch Gun-kun's trigger.
Please, even Youkan-chan could do that if he threw it with enough power.
Get in line.
Are you saying that Youkan-chan is at the same tier as that one-shot character Screw-san?
Screwbro was too OP and on a whole new level, as if he was a completely new tier. L-elf would become a new magius generation vampire if he spent more than 5 seconds holding hands with him.
So basically, Screw-san is a Gary Screw.
Glass-chan was pretty OP too.
It's by this artist.
These threads feel empty without the Haruto hate.
At least he's finally dead.
You have amazing search powers. Thank you very much.
Better empty than filled with Haruto bullying.
God this show was shit.
I just happen to recognize their artstyle.
Bid on the auction. I want to but I don't know how much new concept art is in there compared to the booklet included in volume 4 of the BD.
I would if the current price wasn't over 9k.
Didn't they admit they don't know how to write Shoko? She'll be a side character at best.
>Didn't they admit they don't know how to write Shoko?
I'll buy it and scan it. Do you have a link to the auction?
You'd be really based if you did that. It's the only Valvrave result on Mandarake auction.
I keep getting outbid :/
That's what I was afraid of. There's still two days to go too, I bet it will go even higher tomorrow.
Wait until the last seconds to bid.
They extend the auction time if someone bids last second.
>make good looking artwork
>only use it during an exposition no one gives a fuck about
They're not allowed to act surprised when it doesn't sell.
>Saki holding mini-Haruto
Who's holding mini-Elf? Jewbro?
get a job
I have one thank you. Enough to dish out around 20000 yen on this. What about you?
So besides Drilltits and Satomi, which are the OTPs that are pretty much confirmed or can be just guessed besides not having get a real confirmation?
inb4 homo pairings, i'm asking a real question
A-Drei x L-Elf
And you know it is true because FukuJun spoiled in the radio program the yahomo was going to marry L-Elf sooner or later.
He's trash talking.
Someone posted bits of the radio program episode on /a/ when it aired. But keep denying the OTP.
I think so.
Looks like the novel got interrupted, right? Volume 4 is going to be last one and is out in March.
>Looks like the novel got interrupted, right?
Interrupted? Not really. What that tweet is saying is that initially they planned 4 volumes for the novel but because of reasons they were forced to reduce it to 3. Volume 3 is out in March.
>that initially they planned 4 volumes for the novel but because of reasons they were forced to reduce it to 3
Yeah, that is the definition of interrupted.
My definition of interrupted means they went for months without publishing anything.
>stop the continuous progress of (an activity or process):
They stopped it forever. A bit useless to argue about it, when it is clear what happened.
>inb4 homo pairings, i'm asking a real question
>implying homo pairings aren't a real answer
But they didn't stop it, they ended it one volume shorter. Interrupted would be ending it on volume 2. For all we know volume 3 can cover up to episode 24.
Look, if it was planned to be 4 volumes long and now it is 3 volumes long it means they won't publish a volume. If 3rd volume was going to be published in March it means the author is already writing the volume and will have to write the ending (that was going to be in the 4th volume) in the 3rd volume. That is interrupting the serialization of the novel.
It is a bit useless to sweeten the concept.
You're making it sound as if volume 3 doesn't offer any closure which you can't be sure. He's making this post now but can you confirm he didn't know about it before he started working on the volume? Because interrupted in novel publishing means the story doesn't end. One volume shorter can be many things, but if it ends the story it doesn't interrupt anything.
You can't spend what you don't have...uh unless it's on a military.
Which is a good thing because we uh fulfilled our mandate to stop the Dorssians.
>You're making it sound as if volume 3 doesn't offer any closure which you can't be sure.
I'm not. The volume can have a closure, but said closure was supposed to be on the 4th volume, which won't be published, so the author will have to change the contents of the novel to be able to have the ending there. That is because the serialization got interrupted.
>the serialization got interrupted
No. It got shortened. Interrupted in publishing is supposed to imply they never got back to finish it. But think whatever you want.
>It got shortened
We politically correct now!
You keep using words that don't mean what you think they mean.
So it's pretty much confirmed that we won't even get a glimpse of shoko's thought during the last episodes.
Why do they hate S2 Shoko so much?
These threads just weren't the same without you.
That is not funny
Picture drama stuff.
Finally got to see that maid A-drei I heard about ever since the Summit event.
I wonder what if Lieselotte sees this
Audrey is really the best girl.
Password site: o57t
Password RAR file: date of this event
Don't direct link baidu files.
Password site: o57t
Password RAR file: date of this event
What kind of training was Cain doing at that time?
thanks for the link anon
what's the date format?
Audrey x Kreim
Shoko x Akira
Saki x Prince
>still waiting for the edited chapter 7 of the Saki manga
Have patience, anon.
Remember when Valvrave was fun? Yeah, me neither.
Speak for yourself, anon.
Anyone manage to get the Summit downloads to finish? Looks like I'll have to wait patiently for a mirror.
What's with all the gay shit on the left?
I'm sorry ;_;
This time I wanted to make them look better, less like shitty magazine scans and it was only later that I realized doing it takes way too long.
Volume 2 should be coming out in 4-8 weeks, someone will be able to provide higher quality scans, meaning that this shitty mag scans are only temporary and so I should stop trying to clean them so neatly.
Currently there's 7 untouched and 4 that need burn/dodge left. No typesetting has been done at all, but that takes less than half hour to do.
I'll stop taking so long in each page, stick to leveling and doing blacks only with a tiny amount of burn/dodge just to balance it a bit.
What matters is to make them readable while waiting for volume scans, Y/N?
And if anyone wants a certain panel cleaned up properly, I'll do it as requested.
>What matters is to make them readable while waiting for volume scans, Y/N?
Well, this is implying we will get scans of the volume, there will be threads up and you will notice the raws being available. A lot of stuff, at the end, do what you think it is the best for your time, I don't think we are too quibbling as long as we can have better scans than those on mangareader.
They were already gorgeous before, Anon!
> @ValvraveUSA 2 h
>Only 19 more likes to get to 4000! Thank you very much Valvrave the Liberator fans. http://fb.me/W5fd2M5s
Help this guys, /a/.
Try using a download tool like DownloadThemAll.
I was going to help you out, but facebook isn't sending a confirmation e-mail so fuck it.
Checked the spam?
Picture related was also a bitch.
There will be scans and threads so I'll be in those too. I mean, is there anyone that successfully got out of the Valvrave ride? People are unable to leave.
But in case that we don't, I can make a prettier v.2.
For now, I'll simplify the burn/dodge on the remaining .psd(s) and >stick to leveling and doing blacks only with a tiny amount of burn/dodge just to balance it a bit. for the untouched ones.
Although I'd only use "gorgeous" for the third page of ch.7, I'm thankful for your support.
Those eyes are too sad, spoil it next time!
Have a smile.
I was unable to protect it, I'm not worthy ;_;
Don't let it bother you too much, anon. Nobody's smiles got protected.
But Shoko was smiling in the ending.
Only on the outside. There are no smiles left in the heart.
/a/ sings boku janai when
She was probably smiling because she'd forgotten all the bad things that happened.
>Shoko has forgotten all her old friends
They're all dead anyways. It wouldn't make much of a difference.
I'm impressed, you're doing a good job.
Her face is kinda disturbing.
That's even worse.
It means that the old Shoko is also dead.
Geez, that seems like a ton of work. Is there some filter that allows you to fix that, or are you doing it all by hand?
I never truly appreciated how much work is put into this stuff before I saw this
My heart wasn't ready for this.
Can't wait for the HQ versions of this.
Hopefully based ReinForce will deliver.
I guess Q-Vier really was aiming at Thunder.
>q-vier pointing at thunda
>dat look on his face
>A-drei's hover hand
>Thunder looks being forced to be in the group pic by Jewbro
>Satomi playfully rustles Akira's hair
>Saki and Kriem smiling
>Aina, Marie and H-neun
>X-eins actually showing some emotion other than being a stuck-up and/or Cain worshipper
VVV Hijinks spinoff (similar to Vandread Special Stage) when?
Jesus Christ, anon, stop!
That's too much! It's okay if the other page bleeds through! They're magazine scans, it's okay! ;_;
Take your time to perfect them.
The bleeding can be prevented, though. I wish the scanners were a bit more careful.
Well, some magazine paper can be pretty shitty, so it's not entirely their fault.
B-but they look so much better.
I said I wouldn't post it but since we are at it, page 3 is my masterpiece.
I-It does look really nice.
Anyways, my eyes hurt just by imagining you fixing all those bleeding pages by hand!
Will you update the scanlation when the volume versions come out?
>I just hope Valkyrie of the Maiden patches the Saki's "I'm so happy that you'll be losing your memories, Haruto" line the same way it fixed Haruto's words are more serious.
I liked that line. It was pretty ghoulish from her to think, but very humane at the same time.
Half of them are dead.
When I used to scan stuff the easy way to avoid it was to put a piece of black paper on the other side of the page when scanning. Add time to the whole process though.
If the anon who did Vol.1 isn't planning to do it, maybe.
I'm still here ;_;
If it gets scanned, I'm willing to do it.
Only the shitty half + H-Neun.
I'm glad you are still around, senpai.
I still can't leave these threads.
It's a fence of Sakis!
That's some love you have there, Anon. May it never burn out.
>It's a fence of Sakis!
Oh god, cannot unsee.
It's implied. It seems more like they may have over-thought the whole thing; right down to her visual appearance. That would explain why it seemed like they didn't know what to do with her.
>no idea what to do with her
>just have her do illogical crap and let the fans bullshit a reason for it
I'm not sure if this is lazy or genius.
So many backs to stab, so little time.
Check this thread in the archive.
Where? We have been over this in this thread too.
see >>100745964 >>100746941 >>100747298
That was the same thing the character designer said in the booklet IIRC.
Yes, they are saying everything about Shoko down to her design was difficult for them. She was the character who gave them the most trouble because they seem to have had many conflicting ideas on what to do with her.
>they seem to have had many conflicting ideas on what to do with her
Glad to see they picked the safest route not writing her at all in S2. Really professional.
They should just admit they changed plans after seeing how popular L-Elf was, but they failed because L-Elf isn't a new Kira or Lelouch and a generic show like Valvrave can't base its success only on a single character.