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Weekly reminder that you will never be able to physically meet you're waifu.
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We'll one day be able to travel to any dimension we want.

And since there are infinite, you could in theory have a K-On! universe that's exactly the same (duplicates CAN randomly occur in a random sequence) for Anon currently browsing 4chan.
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>>100696732
In such a scenario, it'd also be possible for there to be a universe where YOU are one of the Crayons.
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>>100696732
I wish I had your optimism, anon-kun.

Best thing we can do in our lifetime is stare at pixels and daydream about the time we will never meet.

;_;
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>>100697118
Oh yeah of course that'll never be fucking possible within our lifetime :^)

The closest thing would be AI. Which, at the rate it's currently advancing, would take about just after you die for it to be any good.
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>>100696352
Interdimensional travel here we come!
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>>100696352
>meeting Ritsu
Soon, soon.
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>0 dimensions
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>>100697242
>The closest thing would be AI.
I would do anything to cheat death in my retirement complex to have a cute meido-bot help serve me my medication.
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How the fuck can you have more than one time dimension?

And this is coming from a guy who took Advanced Quantum Mechanics in grad school.
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>>100697443
>Asking an Anime board about Advanced Quantum Mechanics.
Bump for interest.
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>>100697443
this
from my understanidng time was the fourth dimension wasn't it?
This coming from a guy who took Ever17 in grad school
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>>100697443

technically we only go forward in time, perhaps the second would be being able to go backwards as well?
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>>100697242
On another note maybe if every anon on the board stopped being a lazy shit and started studying intra-dimensional travel we'd get it much sooner
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>>100697527
>Not studying the basics of quantum mechanics, general relativity and astrological physics before browsing /a/

Get out newfag.
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>>100697563
No, the second would be going left in time.
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>>100697443
Look up a guy named 'Max Tegmark' and ask him.

The sauce for OP's image sort of came from his site.
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Why can't there be dimensions that are neither temporal nor spatial?

I imagine they'd be inconceivable to us, though, given that we imagine every object as something spatial in time.
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Anime Physics thread?

Anime Physics thread.
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What is a tachyon?
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>>100696352
http://www.timecube.com/
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>>100696352
/yys/ told me we're in a simulation.
If so, then there might not be multiple dimensions.
However, they might exist a level up, where the computer that we reside in physically exists.
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>>100697816
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>>100697816
anti spiral energy is spiral energy
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>>100697893
It's an old space-shooter game for the PC.
Try it sometime if you're not afraid of games a few decades old
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>>100697893
>A tachyon /ˈtæki.ɒn/ or tachyonic particle is a hypothetical particle that always moves faster than light

Do scientists have fun having hypotheses that are literally impossible to prove?
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>>100698381
Somebody probably faps to these sorts of things.
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>>100697563
No.
>>100697693
Maybe?
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>>100697693
What if you go right?
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>>100698488
It'd be like going backwards as opposed to forwards, except instead going the opposite of left anon.
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>>100698552
Why am I backwards and he is forward? You're being a bully
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Relatively, we're kind of close, aren't we?
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>>100698439
I would fap to these things if I could find porn of them.
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I prefer to think of our imaginations as a way of perceiving alternate realities, so there may be some way to communicate across dimensions if we already have a connection established.
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>>100698681
And yet so far.
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>>100699106
You're not implying what I think you're implying, are you?
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>>100699182

How would I know? I'm not a mind reader.
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>>100699238
Tulpas.
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>>100699282

Nah, that's dedicating a piece of your brain to becoming its own separate consciousness.
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>>100699393
Some anon put it best -- you're deliberately making yourself schizophrenic.
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>unpredictable
>unstable
>too simple

Who the fuck made that chart?
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>>100698381
But the existence of Tachyons would have real implications.

A hypotheses that is genuinely impossible (as opposed to impractical) to prove would have no real world effect and therefore be worthless.

A large portion of physics cannot be directly observed, but if you assume that it is true you can make useful predictions (ex every computer ever).
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>>100696732
Actually you're wrong.

Even if infinite simultaneous realities existed, it's likely that your anime character isn't in any of them. It is generally assumed that physics are universal. The gravitational constant here is the same as everywhere else. This likely applies to all realities in the multiverse, and so all realities would be 3d, use similar physics etc. The only difference would be the seed (starting point) of each universe.

Even if this were not the case it's still likely that your waifu doesn't exist.

How many numbers are between one and two?
Infinite of course.
Does that mean that three is between one and two?
Of course not.

tl;dr: I'll never get to compile gentoo with my beloved Lain ;__;
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>>100699558
http://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark/dimensions.html
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>>100699558
Somebody who thinks there are close to an infinite universes out there, duh.
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>>100699661
Well, aren't there?
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>>100699647
What does that even mean
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>>100699746
it means that 4D is too complex for orbits or atoms
2D is too simple for gravity
divergent timelines are too wacky and unpredictable
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>>100699645
Unless of course your waifu comes from a show that follows 3D physics.
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>>100699647
>Voltaire was right
IT WAS FUCKING LEIBNIZ

VOLTAIRE DEDICATED A FUCKING BOOK TO DISSING THE WHOLE IDEA
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>>100699746
As a physicist, I can tell you that we like to make stuff up and see who will believe us.
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>>100699746
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>>100699837
>2D is too simple for gravity

But I thought we didn't understand gravity as much to say something like that, besides there are a lot of physics problems in 2D that use gravity so fuck me I don't know shit.
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>>100698381
>Do scientists have fun having hypotheses that are literally impossible to prove?
Everything in science is literally impossible to prove.

The whole point is in coming up with disprovable notions.
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>>100699647
>Lucky stars
It's like they're trying to mock us!
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>>100699647
>we live in a world with only 3 spatial dimensions
>strings vibrate in 26 dimensions

I'm not following.
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>>100699901
2D wouldn't allow for mass, which wouldn't allow for gravity.

We might not understand a whole lot about gravity, but we understand that much.
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>>100699901
>But I thought we didn't understand gravity as much to say something like that
it's that the math doesn't work. A lot of spatial math requires three dimensions.

You can't cross product two vectors in 2D. Shit doesn't work.

Also we do simplistic stuff in 2D because it's easier to visualize, but gravity works in 3d as volume masses and 3D vectors.
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>>100699731
If there is, then my waifu obviously has to exist in one of them.
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>>100699876
I don't know why, but that made me laugh.
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>>100699974
Look up "string theory"
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>>100699976
>>100700020
I guess what I'm trying to figure here, is that it wouldn't exactly be gravity, but there still can be some kind of force between the masses, you can make a model of that in a 2D space, it would be different from gravity, of course, because it's not in 3D, the equations would be different, but the implications wouldn't as much, it would be an equivalent with one less spatial dimension.
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Are we all just conveniently forgetting that anime is simply a 3d world being viewed through a 2d medium?

Its like pretending that you are viewing an alternate 2d universe by going to the movies...
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>>100700144
>Are we all just conveniently forgetting that anime is simply a 3d world being viewed through a 2d medium?

Yes, we always do that.
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>>100700112
gravity might be able to have an analogue in 2D, but you're absolutely screwed with electromagnetism and nuclear forces.

Also if gravity has a negative, then you're also fucked for gravity.

If it's only positive enjoy a really boring universe where things just collide and crumple for eternity
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>>100700144
I struggle to imagine how my waifu would look like in 3D...

.. which leads me to conclude I'd just pick an universe where she's literally just a 3D model of what she looks like in 2D.
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>>100697443

How do we define time? Technically speaking, anything such that incremental changes in leads to irreversible changes in the physical state of a system can be considered time.

Assuming you accept my definition of time (if you don't we can argue that point first), we move to the observation of spontaneous (and often statistical) atomic decay as caused by the weak force.

If we assume that there exists a time dimension perpendicular to the time dimension we know of, then we can say that, instead of a spontaneous and often discontinuous statistical force, we have a continuous and predictable force that displaces space not just with respect to our time dimension, but also with respect to another time dimension, we can arrive at a theory of quantum mechanics without probability.

TL;DR: Existence of alternate time-dimensions can eliminate statistics from QM
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Fucking nerds everywhere on /a/, as to be expected.

If Einstein had grown up with us, his waifu would've been Kagamin, and we'd still rag on him on /a/ for having a shit waifu.
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>>100699645
It actually isn't assumed physics are the same across all parallel universes, in fact a lot of parallel universes are duds because things like gravity never showed up so nothing ever bound together to make planets or any of that fun stuff.

Regardless, mine's from a reality not so different from ours, so it doesn't particularly matter for me, somewhere I found her, just not this one.
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>>100699102
Let's go ask the drawfags to draw some cute tachyons having vanilla sex.
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>>100700295
No his waifu would be Haruhi because she never played with dice.
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>>100700358
>It actually isn't assumed physics are the same across all parallel universes
I never said that. It's true throughout this universe, and so it's likely true throughout all others.
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>>100700471
Actually, tachyons are all virgins, because their dicks are imaginary
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Drop me off at (4,4).

Thanks.
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>>100700536
Says you, fag
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>>100700503
How is that different than what I said besides you tacking on a "but I said likely" we have no idea how other universes work out, and if I'm remembering this correctly physics as we know them were made during the big bang (since there was nothing before it) so if the big bang happened differently in another universe physics would be different there.

You say likely, but heck, we don't know, and even if it is likely, it means it's still possible there are ones where they're wildly different, which in turn means somewhere some anon's weird magical waifu might be there
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masturbating to mental images will never be enough
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>>100700475
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Parallel universes, by definition, don't exist.
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>>100700821
I'm sure we've all seen the video with the occulus rift and the force-feedback onahole. The future is coming.
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>>100700475
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>>100700968
What, are't parallel universes just electrons going "Am I going left or right? Guess I'll hedge my bets and do both!" That doesn't sound impossible to me really
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All this quantum mechanics discussion stuff is great but is there a reason you used my waifu in your chart?
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>>100700144
I was wondering about that too.
Life can't exist in two spacial dimensions anyways. The question should be whether or not we can manifest an alternate reality.
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>>100701159
Mio is the best crayon anyway.

Also why do I find this o creepy?
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>>100701211
Yes?
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>>100701233
*so.
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>>100701159
Maybe because Ritz's unusually large forehead is also useful for scientific experimentation
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>>100701130
It's tautological. The universe consists of everything that can be observed. If something is outside of the universe, then it can never be observed and, for any real purpose, does not exist.

Parallel universes are nothing more than a thought experiment. You could never prove or disprove them.
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>>100701801
To my knowledge, just because you can't observe something doesn't mean it doesn't exist, even if for practical purposes it doesn't, dreaming isn't practical
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so imagine a point.
that's 0 dimensions

lets add another point
then we join the two points to make a line
that's 1 dimension

let's add another line
then we join the two lines to make a square
that's 2 dimensions

lets add another square
then we join the two squares to make a cube
that's the 3 dimensions

lets imagine a point in time
it's a static point, like a photo in 3d
still 3 dimensions

lets add another point in time
then we join the two points in time to make a time line
which gives us a 3d movie
this is the 4th dimension

now lets have another timeline
we join the two timelines, to get a bunch of multiverses
5 dimensions

more explanation here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4Gotl9vRGs
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>>100701970
Wouldn't that mean everything you aren't seeing (i.e. everything outside of your room) doesn't exist.
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>>100702101
Can be observed != are currently observing.
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>>100702172
Okay, what if everything you aren't currently observing doesn't exist?
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>>100702231
Then I don't have to go to my lectures tomorrow so that's nice
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>>100701461
>Ritz
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>>100702658
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>physics, physics everywhere
>all pointing to my waifu and I not meeting anytime soon
Well, shit.
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>>100700706
Our "multiverse" is really a simple 4 dimensional construct with infinite size. Universes always form from the same "big bang" style events in locations where mass density is below a certain threshold. Universes end after a few hundred billion years or so, when every atom can no longer maintain cohesion. Every universe has the same universal laws.

There may be other infinite multiverses with infinite variations of our laws, but big bangs never happen in well over 99% of them.
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>>100703570
That 1% is still infinite, though.
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>>100703219
The closest thing we got now is paying some girl to cosplay as your waifu and have her act just like your waifu.
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>>100703570
Still means some of them work out and end up differently, good enough for me
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>>100703642
Yes, but that 1% is comprised entirely of multiverses that are very similar to our own. It's hardly meaningful, and cross-multiverse travel is totally beyond any realm of possibility.
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>>100703694
Strangely enough, I did meet a cosplayer of mai waifu. Didn't do the trick.

In an ideal world, Yuki Onna are real, and with all the monster girl stuff being made, japan recruited them for the winter olympics.
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>>100703778
>entirely of multiverses that are very similar to our own
Not necessarily there can be ones with wildly different laws that still managed to big bang, and even if they are simply our own world with different people shuffled around that still means one of 'em has what I'm looking for
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>>100703975
>Not necessarily there can be ones with wildly different laws that still managed to big bang,
You do realise how incredibly complex a big bang is, right? It's not something that can be generated under anything but ideal conditions. You'd be far better off searching our own multiverse, which already has infinite universes capable of supporting life in it.

Of course, searching through all those universes would take forever. Not to mention you'd be restricted to only taking a snapshot of a certain moment in time.
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>>100704223
Let's be extreme and say we ARE able to travel to another universe...

How would we be able to pick which universe to go to?
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There's always virtual reality, you know.
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>>100704356
Virtual 2D reality?
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>>100704223
sure it's complicated, but since when are we so knowledgeable about the big bang and what happened then to be able to say that there's literally only one way for it to happen? Until we can say that it can always make things turn out differently
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>>100704466

Any dimension you want, anon. With computer science, you can do anything!

I wish I was born in the future.
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Guys all we need is a 4th dimensional Apple to knock us into flatland
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>>100704343
It'd be total pot luck, and a lot of trial and error. If we're lucky, universes are fairly uniformly spaced apart, and a few jumps can generate the data needed.
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>>100704356
>virtual reality
Visual novels are so great.

I just wish I had special glasses so that all I can see are the static characters and text.
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>>100704812
Why don't you just go to a hub universe where everything's listed out and sorted for you :^)
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>>100697816
I fucking love this picture.
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>>100697816
>The objective of seele was to become the anti-spiral
I shit a brick.
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>>100704576
With SICP, we can become wizards of the dimensions - like on the cover
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>>100704842
>Virtual reality visual novels
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>>100696352
2D in the sense of anime isn't really 2D anyway, it's a slice of three dimensional space projected on a 2D plane.
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>>100707108
So, does that mean it's still possible to hold their hands?
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>>100707195
No it means they aren't real even in 2 dimensional space
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>>100704356

This. We might not get to live to see getting into physical contact with you're waifu, but we're sure as hell gonna live to see VR becoming a thing... So far, it looks magnificent and my hopes are up high for waifu simulators in the future.
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>>100697443
I don't know if you're still here but in that chart when they say time-dimensions they mean timelike dimensions. The assumption is that there are three bidirectional dimensions and one monodirectional dimension at work in the world as we know it. Incrementing the time dimension side wouldn't necessarily be going a new direction in time, it would be adding another dimension to the universe that only proceeds forward rather than being able to be navigated in both directions.
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>>100707360
My prediction - the VR device will just be a bed.
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My head

Stop
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>>100697904

what the fuck
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Before worrying about how to get to the 2D universe you should worry about how to turn fiction into reality.
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>>100707524

I reckon it will be a comfy chair, a masturbatory toy, a robotic arm and the goggles.
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>>100708514
I wish holograms would come out soon.
The ones that you can feel would be nice
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How the hell do you have multiple time dimensions?
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>>100696352
It's only a matter of time.
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>>100699974
>we live in a world with only 3 spatial dimensions
>strings vibrate in 26 dimensions
Isn't that but mathematical model for which there is no real evidence yet?
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>>100708860
>Time, Dr. Freeman? Is it really that time again...?
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>>100708813
It's like having an "x" and "y" on some graph, which would indicate a 2D plane/space.

You can probably think of time being the same thing - that is, two dimensions of time as having an "x" and "y".

Same thing with more dimensions.
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>>100697443
Multiple time-like dimensions are very hard to imagine for us. Think of a creature living 1D+1T, they couldn't easily extrapolate higher-dimensional space mathematics, trigonometry, rotations and the like. They only know forwards and backwards.

We live in a universe with a single time dimension and a lot of our laws and understanding of physics are actually based around there only being 1 time dimension. The arrow of time appears to be fundamental in many processes. If you add multiple time dimensions that goes out of the window and you actually have to deal with ? itself being a composite term.

Even what we know as "causality" would have to be replaced with some more complex concept.
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>>100700112
>force between the masses
That's the point.
There cannot be any kind of mass in 2D
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>>100713151
Hidamari is timeless
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>>100697443

Easy. You have two timelines you can freely move between. Just like here we have 3 spacial dimensions we can freely move between.
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>>100697654
Hey man, at least some of us are actually learning Japanese.
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>>100719936
Just found out my local college has TEFL-centered courses, as well as japanese 1+2.

Here's hoping she's out there.
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But isn't anime usually supposed to be interpreted as 3D on a 2D surface anyway?

I mean, if Hatsune Miku can be 3D, what is preventing your wafiu from being rendered in actual three dimensions?
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>>100703570
How do you know?
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>>100720178
Uh, you can just learn Japanese on your own for free. We have the Daily Japanese Thread(s) for a reason, and at least some /a/nons are able to get a decent level of proficiency from it.
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>>100720238
Some people do better in a classroom than self taught.
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>>100720220
How good is your background in theoretical physics?
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>>100720343
0
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>>100720369
I don't think I'd be able to explain it to you if I tried.
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I will be OK with an AI powerfull enough to emulate human behavior and also my waifu, then put that AI in a robot and bam! there you waifu is real and you can actualy give and get love
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>>100720238

I can't self-teach for shit. I've tried to self-teach myself Japanese several times but it all ends up with me having learned a few more words and a few more grammatical concepts and that's really all.
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For everyone talking about AIs in this thread, that's actually what I'm majoring in Computer Science for. I'm at a community college right now, but I'm transferring to one of the best schools in the country for artificial intelligence in the fall, where I intend to get my Ph.D and work as an academic researcher.

What I'm saying is waifubots in less than 20 years, fellow waifufriends.
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Don't our 2D waifus actually live in a 3D world but we just perceive them on a 2D plane?
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How can the universe be real if our dimensions aren't real?
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>>100713151
Ah, I see, I see. 
Fascinating
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>>100720289
And some people do even better if they parachute themselves into Tokyo and ask for directions.
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>>100721474

Yes, but we're talking about the spatial dimensions from our perspective, not from theirs.
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>>100721283
You'll be our hero just as long as you don't accidentally build waifu terminators
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>>100700144
2D is just a name we ascribe to the "perfect" world where anons wished they were. The point is that it's a fantasy that can never be reached.
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How has this not been posted yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjsgoXvnStY
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>>100697443
For example, take position. Position can be defined as function of time f(t). With multiple time dimensions, the t becomes a vector. So when you want to get speed, you have to derivate against a multi-variable function instead of single-derivative.
The math behind it explodes.
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>>100723210
And how didn't someone say this is bullshit?
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>>100723474
>it's understandable without a PhD in string theory therefore it must be bullshit
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>>100723536
Something that's understandable doesn't mean it's true.
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>>100723536
But even those with PhDs continue to debate the subject and still call it bullshit
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>>100723536
That's because it is wrong, its so oversimplified it might as well be nonsense. I could just as easily say that the moon is no different than a orange because both are round.
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>>100722951
Unless you self-insert, that is.
Imagination defies dimesions
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>>100719495
that's not how manifolds work
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>>100703570
>Universes end after a few hundred billion years or so, when every atom can no longer maintain cohesion.
spacetime does not magically dissolve just because there's no baryonic matter
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>>100724118
Universes are like a man blowing a bubble. They grow in size over time, and eventually "pop". All of the spacetime is still there, it's just not occupied by anything at a sufficient density to prevent the formation of new universes. That's what it means for a universe to end.
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>>100697443
Idiot.
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>All these people talking about multiverses like they have Ph.Ds in physics

For fuck's sake people, really? No one thinks you're cool or smart for spouting a bunch of shit you have no idea about.

You may as well be the Time Cube guy, like >>100724237 for all of your so-called "knowledge".
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>>100724295
Are you implying that Dr. Gene Ray is anything but a genius and revolutionary of our time?
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>>100724234
>to prevent the formation of new universes
how would a locally inflated bubble of spacetime impair the formation of others in different places in the compacted underlying structure?
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>>100724562
>>100724234
>>100724118
>>100724034
>>100723755
>>100723696
>>100723623
>>100723536
>>100723474
>>100723424
>>100723210

None of you know anything about physics like this. Stop discussing it like you do.
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>>100696352
This was made by a person who has no understanding of the higher dimensions
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>>100724632
How do you know they don't? Do you?
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>>100724632
what qualifies you to judge whether we do? Btw, I am not against expertise (unlike certain other countries), but on an anonymous imageboard anyone can claim to be one.
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>>100724692
>>100724717

No, I don't, but unless you've done graduate work in physics you really shouldn't be talking about this stuff like you know what it's all about.

Please, please, please, please stop throwing around big words you learned from a YouTube video like you know what they mean, or like you know any of the underlying math and physics behind it. You're just embarrassing yourself.
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>>100724772
What if they do know what they're talking about and you're just some idiot rudely interrupting them?
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>>100724562
Spacetime doesn't impair anything. It's the vast quantities of matter at relatively high densities that prevent further big bang events. Our universe is one of many on an infinite region of spacetime, I'm using universe to refer only to the area occupied by matter from our own big bang event.
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>>100724796

You can tell they don't know what they're talking about because they're just throwing around smart sounding words without actually knowing how to use them or what they mean.

It's the same thing a lot of people who discuss philosophy do.
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>>100724842
you are on /a/, have you forgotten that already?
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>>100723210
I lost it at infinite infinites.
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>>100697443
Business major here. Doesn't String theory has 10 dimensions, later upgraded M-theory has 11.

u wot m8?
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>>100724898
space-like dimensions, not time-like. not to mention that they're compacted
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Instead of having stupid, pointless Internet arguments, you could be using your knowledge of these things to bring waifus into our world. Why are you still here? Why aren't we all living the dream right now?
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>>100702025
>Jesus Christ how ☆Dandy ED
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>>100724883

Being on 4chan or being on /a/ isn't sufficient reason for being a complete ignorant psuedo-intellectual trying to discuss concepts outside of your knowledge. Despite what some people think.
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>>100724991
Can't wait for the full version and for the translated lyrics of it.
>Ichi Jigen
>Ni Jigen
>San Jigen
>Higashi he Nishi gokareru choushisei.
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>>100724842
Nigger you quoted people who simply said that one side of the argument was wrong, and then quoted the opposite side who said it was and said they were both wrong. logically speaking one of them has to be right
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>>100725016
Being on 4chan or being on /a/ isn't sufficient reason for being a complete ignorant psuedo-intellectual trying to stop other people to discuss concepts outside of your and their knowledge. Despite what you think.
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>>100725016
>psuedo-intellectual trying to discuss concepts outside of your knowledge
Either you know the matter of discussion better than them, disproving your own case of uneducated people discussing
or you're just spewing bullshit yourself.
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>>100724980
But I think that's how it is in the real world - even those smart PhD people turn into little anons when their personal beliefs/theories are put to the test and scrutiny by those who disagree.
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>>100699974
According to string theory, there are A LOT of dimensions (I read about eleven of them, but who cares about the number). Among these, only one is a temporal dimension (time), three are the spacial dimensions that we all know, and the other ones are too little to be witnessed, and they are needed to allow strings to vibrate in many possible combinations, giving birth to every fundamental particle in the universe.

So basically the whole universe is created by different modulations of the same strings, much like music.
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Fuck alternate universes. Virtual reality is the way we'll finally meet our waifus. ;_;
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>>100725332
Forgot to say that the little ones are spacial too. So our molecules move in a lot of dimensions but we can witness only three of them.
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>>100725332
>So basically the whole universe is created by different modulations of the same strings, much like music.
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>>100725363
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>>100725312
>>100725315

Have either of you actually studied theoretical/quantum physics outside of YouTube? Be honest here.
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>>100724980
>to bring waifus into our world
That would be cruel.

We would be like some eldritch abominations dragging things down into our dark, twisted realm
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>>100725463
yup, but it's irrelevant anyway since >anynymous claims on 4chan
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This man is absolutely crazy.
http://youtu.be/UTtGcNk7Rhs?t=4m20s
Bees traveling through 6th dimension? Really now?
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>>100725463
>Ignoring the point
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>>100725540
>>100725517

The point is you should stop talking about things you don't know about. It makes you look like a damn fool.
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>>100725613
Not that anon but
>are you educated in it?
>Yes
>Then you don't know about it
The fuck?
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>>100725613
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>>100725613
good thing you're not talking about reading the discussion you take part in.
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>>100725658
>>100725681
>>100725691

Look at this guy: >>100725332

How is it not obvious that he's full of shit and just regurgitating things he learned from someone who knows how to make himself sound smart?

I honestly believe that most "knowledge" about quantum/theoretical physics that most people have is just bullshit shared between psuedo-intellectuals that want to make themselves seem like they know a lot about high-minded subjects.

Every time I hear some idiot on the internet start talking String Theory like he's got a Ph.D in physics I get this much closer to a heart attack. Like fucking honestly.
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>>100725741
>Every time I hear some idiot on the internet start talking String Theory like he's got a Ph.D in physics I get this much closer to a heart attack. Like fucking honestly.
So you're saying if we keep doing it we might be rid of you? Sounds like a plan to me
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>>100725741
>I don't know about the subject
>That must mean it's all bullshit people say to sound smart.
Okay
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>>100725741
it's more like regurgitating simple english wikipedia. It's not really that wrong what he's saying, it's just very superficial.
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>>100725741
First things first.
You're taking it way too seriously.
You're taking something on /a/ that isn't anime (that would be excusable) way too seriously.
And is he saying anything meritorically wrong? Just asking, sinc you seem proficient in classifying things as bullshit.
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At least htis thread isn't as bad as the early gargantia threads.
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>>100725835

Even if I don't know about the subject, it's still easy enough to tell when someone's spouting bullshit just to sound smart.

>>100725836

And the problem occurs when these people think they have some in-depth understanding about how the universe works, rather than just a very superficial understanding.
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>>100725893
So let me summarize:

You actually know jack shit about the subject being talked about -- however, you are quite adept at seeing somebody elses' bullshit-talk. In turn, you're mocking them for having a very superficial understanding of the universe -- when you yourself have such an understanding.
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>>100725893
Have you considered that some people might actually be interested in the topic and want to talk about it even if they know that their knowledge is fairly limited and superficial?

At work I have the habit of including almost all the caveats that come to my mind when I communicate with management because they otherwise take even the most terse statement verbatim instead of being an approximation of the actual state of things. And that really inflates my arguments quite a bit, but it's neccesary.

If you're discussing theoretical physics on 4chan you can basically take 10 lines of IANATP disclaimlers as baseline assumption. Nobody wants to type out "according to what I've read in scientific american [...]" or "this is far from consensus, but one toy theory recently in the science news discussed [...]" in every single fucking post.
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>>100726098

>You actually know jack shit about the subject being talked about

Yes.

>however, you are quite adept at seeing somebody elses' bullshit-talk.

Yes.

>In turn, you're mocking them for having a very superficial understanding of the universe -- when you yourself have such an understanding.

No. I'm mocking them for having a superficial understanding of the universe while acting like they have a deep understanding of the universe.

There's nothing wrong with being ignorant. There is something wrong with being ignorant and thinking you're wise.

>>100726160

>Have you considered that some people might actually be interested in the topic and want to talk about it even if they know that their knowledge is fairly limited and superficial?

That's fine, but don't talk about it like you already know everything about the subject.

>If you're discussing theoretical physics on 4chan you can basically take 10 lines of IANATP disclaimlers as baseline assumption. Nobody wants to type out "according to what I've read in scientific american [...]" or "this is far from consensus, but one toy theory recently in the science news discussed [...]" in every single fucking post.

And if you don't type it out then you're making it look like you think you know a lot about what's being discussed.
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>>100726227
So from now on people needs to put a disclaimer "the purpose of this post is only to share the little knowledge I have on the subject and not because I want to sound smart or wise"
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>200+ post thread of engineering and compsci students talking like they know a shit about physics
every time.
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>>100726227
>thinking you're wise
Who says that they're thinking that?

You *perceive* them as *acting* as if they think they are wise. What very well may be simple laziness of spelling out their exact level of knowledge and simply typing out short, sweeping statements.

I can only talk for myself, but I often make statement that I know is not exactly accurate simply because making a more nuanced statement would be too verbose.

It's like expecting legal advice in a tweet from a lawyer.
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>>100726416
>200+ post thread of anime fans talking like they know a shit about physics
FTFY
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>>100725534
Reminds me of a similar dissertation that I watched
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1GadTfGFvU
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>>100696732
>>100699645
>>100700358
>>100700706
>>100703570
>>100724118
>>100724234
>>100725332
>>100726160
>>100726160
>>100726227

Enough with the jargon. Give it to me straight up, will i meet my waifu when I die?
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>>100726227
>I'm mocking them for having a superficial understanding of the universe while acting like they have a deep understanding of the universe

That's only your perception though, which is very subjective. Just because they don't understand all the intricate details of the mechanisms the "complex" words they're using describe doesn't mean they can't try to communicate using their limited understanding. After all, why would you not use a word made expressly for the purpose of describing the things in question?

They might sound pretentious to you but maybe they're trying not to appear so already? If I wanted to add an insult here it would be something about your opinion not mattering.
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>>100726605
>will my soul lose a dimension when I die?
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>>100726605
No. On the plus side, you won't really be conscious of your own non-existence, so it won't be a big deal for you.
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>>100726605
No.
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>>100726605
No.
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>>100726658
How would you know?

Kore wa zombie death ka
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>>100726696
There is nothing that would suggest otherwise. Information loss is established, afterlife isn't.
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>>100726605
Depends
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>>100726894
on what?
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>>100697893
A particle that is hayai
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>>100726929
If you're pure of heart
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>>100726605
Why wait?
http://exhentai.org/g/659176/62187dc3b2/
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All those spouting multiverse theorems, for a start, how is the existence of the other universes to be tested? To be sure, all cosmologists accept that there are some regions of the universe that lie beyond the reach of our telescopes, but somewhere on the slippery slope between that and the idea that there are an infinite number of universes, credibility reaches a limit. As one slips down that slope, more and more must be accepted on faith, and less and less is open to scientific verification. Extreme multiverse explanations are therefore reminiscent of theological discussions. Indeed, invoking an infinity of unseen universes to explain the unusual features of the one we do see is just as ad hoc as invoking an unseen Creator. The multiverse theory may be dressed up in scientific language, but in essence it requires the same leap of faith
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>>100726951
We're already there, dude
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>>100727036
good point, however, as skeptical as I am, I think the contemplation of the multiverse is an excellent opportunity to reflect on the nature of science and on the ultimate nature of existence: why we are here… In looking at this concept, we need an open mind, though not too open. It is a delicate path to tread. Parallel universes may or may not exist; the case is unproved. We are going to have to live with that uncertainty. Nothing is wrong with scientifically based philosophical speculation, which is what multiverse proposals are. But we should name it for what it is.
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>>100726652

i'm 2d on the inside
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Hey /a/, can you help me fill this chart?
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>>100698381
Well it's really neat to think of lightspeed that way: nothing can accelerate to it or decelerate below it, so as long as you started out above lightspeed in the first place, you fit in the model quite snuggly.
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wow /a/ is fucking terrible today. Just looking at the first two pages made me think I was on /v/ or something.
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>>100727036
Fuck if I care, if other people are allowed to beleive some bearded dude is in the sky I can beleive my waifu's out there somewhere
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>>100727036
It's a neat explanation based on our current understanding of the universe. It'd be far more bizarre to escape our own universe only to find nothing out there.

Methods for detection are probably tough, because anything capable of crossing into our own universe would likely be almost zero energy remnants of previous universes that occupied the same space. Background radiation is already orders of magnitude higher, so detection is impossible. Instantaneous point to point travel is the only way to find out for sure, until we learn more.
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>>100727370
I thought the universe was expanding faster than the speed of light? How does that work then?
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>>100727405
>not using Catalog
Get with the times, grampa
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>>100727473
It isn't
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>>100727473
it's not expanding faster of the speed of light, but close to it
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>this show talking about the 'anthropic principal'
Haruhi was edgy for its time, gotta admit that
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>>100727243
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>>100727036
>how is the existence of the other universes to be tested?
here's one attempt: http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/1108/110802-first-test-of-multiverse
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>>100727441
>escape our own universe
>nothing out there
That's not how it works.
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>>100696352

I think this is where we are heading. The future looks grim when it comes to waifuism
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>>100728532
You graph that as if that was a bad thing



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