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Why are Japanese warships the only ones that are beautiful waifus?
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because American warships are actually functional and won a war
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>>100690989
>>100690926
Americans don't love their ships as waifus. Don't forget that. Most Americans don't really know even half of the modern ones.
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Kongou is ugly and annoying.
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>>100691199
>annoying
Well, kind of.
>ugly
I'll rek your shit m8.
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>>100690989
As someone who serves on a aircraft carrier. They are beyone waifus. You don't know your craft until you have seen her.. nude
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>>100691383
D-did you visit her e-engine?
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>>100691383
How big is an aircraft carrier really? I can't wrap my head around physical numbers.
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>>100691614

in America, we measure our carriers by football fields
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>>100691614
It's like a giant anthill in such a way.
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>>100691383

They are called the Queens of the Ocean
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>>100691614
Nobody can, anon. Humans cannot into things like imagining 40,000 feet or 500kts. Fighter jets are probably a lot bigger than what you think they are though; see cockpit size for reference.
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Because the idea that a physical thing has a governing spirit is an animist idea and is a sin in Christian doctrine.

Do you want to made God sad?
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>>100691614
Aircraft carrier is easily the size of a city block. A cruise ship is taller than a carrier in comparison, but the flat top is much more imposing to me.

Here's the length one one.
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Here's the Queen Elizabeth class. The tonnage is around 7/10 of the US supercarrier (70000 tonnes), and it's already the size of Palace of Westminster.
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>>100691994
Even after playing Kancolle for months, I never really thought of how big actual carriers and battleships are. I can't even use your city block comparison for reference because I live in a rural-suburb area and hardly ever go downtown, this shit's incomprehensible.
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>>100692214
You really should visit one of the surviving battleships and/or carrier museums. Midway Museum at San Diego would give you a good idea about what a supercarrier's dimensions may be like.
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>>100692183

The Queen Elizabeth class is a VN?
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>>100692214
a km takes about 10-15m to walk so use that to your imagination
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>>100692385
MOOT!
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>>100691529
I've touched her reactor,
>>100691614
If I am running for drills, I can run from end to end in like 5 minuets, and I'm decently fit
>>100692214
As someone who works on one, and who has visited historical carriers.. they are tiny compared to modern ones.
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>>100692356
I was actually hoping to visit the USS Texas in Houston a few months ago, but ended up not being able to because reasons. And even then, that's a century+ old dreadnought ship, which still isn't even as big as WWII carriers.

>>100692410
That's quite a walk. Crazy how we can make shit that big that still floats somehow.
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>>100692183
There we go.
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>>100692590

why are Brit aircraft carriers ramped at the end? why not just put in a CATOBAR system?
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>>100692580
It floats because it displaces more water than it weighs.

SCIENCE
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>>100692666

>the British government had intended to purchase the F-35C carrier version of this aircraft, and adopted plans for Prince of Wales to be built to a Catapult Assisted Take Off Barrier Arrested Recovery (CATOBAR) configuration. After the projected costs of the CATOBAR system rose to around twice the original estimate, the government announced that it would revert to the original design on 10 May 2012.
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>>100692774

The next step is:

>hey, why the fuck are we even building an aircraft carrier at all
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>>100692774
Isn't it sad? Little F-35-tan?
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>>100692774
To be honest it's a poorly planned project.
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>>100693220
Because you can't have a blue-water navy without a carrier task force.
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>>100693317

I won't argue with you. Its a sad era when the UK is building naval assets specifically to compliment US fleets.
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>>100693375
There's a graph somewhere for the number of ships in the UK navy, it's pretty fucking depressing.
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>>100693325

The carrier task force doesn't require a super carrier. The French still manage to do things around Africa with that ferry that they call an aircraft carrier. A super carrier is specifically to park an airbase in someone's backyard until America damn well feels like moving it.
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>>100693458
>>100693505
Doesn't the UK still need enough force projection to sail to the Falklands and win against the Argentinians? I recall that the British was cutting it really close during the Falkland war...
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Will the JMSDF ever build another Nagato or Yamato, and will they be "destroyers"?
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>>100693829
Probably, back when Argentina was trying to make its population forget it's a 3rd world country and trying to claim the Falklands as their own, there were quite a lot of talk about another Falklands battle breaking out, along with talk of whether we could actually defend it.

Not sure if we could do it now, I'm not exactly a military expert to be honest.
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>>100694219
By comparing currently active ships for each... I doubt Argentina could do it.
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>>100694144
Kongou got the name because she's the first of the Aegis system destroyers in Japan, and she's based heavily on the Arleigh Burke flight I. This is in the spirit of Kongou class being ordered from Vickers in the pattern of the Lion class Battlecruisers that the Royal navy was launching.

Maybe. It'd have be a pretty darn special ship to give a ship the name "Nagato" though, and that goes without saying for Yamato.
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>>100694475

Argentina could do it if they hired a cyborg PMC
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>>100694475
It goes a bit more than that, like the French supplied Argentina with some pretty good anti-ship missiles or something during that war.
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>>100696355
The exocet waifu killer.
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>>100696355
Exocet. It did take out the HMS Sheffield.
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>>100696453
>>100696424
I laughed when I read about how they jury rigged it to be attached to a car trailer.
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>>100696424

Someone needs to draw fanart of one of the kancolle girls using an exocet as a marital aid.
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Kongou/Haruna and her class don't deserve to be the face of KanColle. They look too bland.
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>>100696864
You look bland, nerd.
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>>100696864
It's Shimakaze and Kongou. According to the tons of art and porn those two get, anyway.
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>>100690926

>there will never be another actual historical WWII war drama anime besides Grave of Fireflies
>if there is it will be filled with retarded, waifu bullshit like this is

fuck anime. FUCK JAPAN. IM FUCKING MAD.
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>>100697610
Thank god.
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>>100690926
I wouldn't mind seeing a Missouri and Enterprise waifu.
They would be great waifus, even.
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>>100697249
methinks the face of Kancolle is better if it's Shimakaze + Taihou + Takao or Shimakaze + Zuikaku + Takao.
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>>100697785

Enterprise is ded nigga
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>>100698330
You have a problem with Fubuki?
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>>100698433
She looks like an Aki Eda character, which multiplies the blandness.
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>>100698330
Out of all those, I'm fairly sure the only one that secondaries would know is Shimakaze. Maybe Tenryuu too. The face of a series is usually the most popular, that's the whole point, and Kongou fits that bill no matter how much you don't like it.
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Missouri
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>>100694144
Japan has helicopter carriers if I recall correctly. They don't need a Blue water fleet though.
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>>100698403
So are like 99% of the ships in Kancolle? Muh Kantai Kessen doctrine.
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>>100699456
I do think that Japan will possess blue water projection capabilities in the coming decades. It's just not feasible for Japan to not project into South China Sea, and the fact that US cannot provide the security on its own anymore would translate into Japan forced to foot the bill itself.
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>>100693325
Just get russian missiles and make arsenal ships.
Carriers are way too vulnerable nowaday.
Buy some of those supercavitating torpedos and toptier subs from the Nazis too.
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>>100699516

Don't mind me, I'm just bitter that we put the Enterprise out to pasture with no hope of safekeeping its glorious form as a museum.
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>>100699300
>Looks more Japanese than the Japanese ships.
Outside of the sword, which isn't a superior Katana.
I don't get Japan.
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>>100699456

They're also commissioning a new line of "helicopter" carriers that are pretty much huge aircraft carriers in disguise.
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>>100699795

Would you like your American ship waifus to be drawn up as /co/mic sluts traced from porn videos instead?
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>>100692214
you should see how big Cruise ships are. Basically an entire city on the sea. The Oasis of the Seas and its sister ship requires the same amount of crew (just crew memebers) as the titanic could hold total.
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>>100699720

The only people that want to sink carriers are the Chinese and terrorists. Sinking a carrier of any nation invites total war. Its partly why nations that can afford them want to have them - carrier fleets are free to pick on smaller nations all they like.
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>>100699880
Are you implying that The Japanese characters are based of JAV videos? I could behind that.
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There's potential in a Kantai'd CV6, CV65, and CV80, as a retired old lady and her expecting daughter. The nicknames and history write the characters by themselves.
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can anyone identify this carrier?
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>>100700518
CV6. EXCEPT IT LOOKS NOTHING LIKE IT. WHERE'S THE FUCKING GREY?
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>>100700584
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, ONLY AREN'T THE NUMBERS ON THE DECK WRONG?
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>>100700621
No it says EN, though who knows how many times that could have changed. Maybe during wartime.
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>>100700621
wait, nevermind. I've been looking at different pictures of it
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>>100700698
They could have changed the letter so it doesn't stand out as much, as EN is pretty obvious.
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>>100700687

Man it must suck to be the one taking inventory for warplanes after every engagement.
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>>100700621
YES - IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE "6". AS IN "CV6". NOT "EN". NOBODY EVER REFERS TO BIG E AS "EN".

WHERE'S THE GREY?
WHERE'S THE BIG E?
WHERE'S THE POLTERGEIST MOTIF?

WHY AM I SO MAD ABOUT NAUTICAL MOE?
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>>100700361
I want more kantai'd american ships
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>>100700761
Not if your Japanese, Most of them don't come back. ohohoh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_off_samar
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>>100700847

British ships would be cool, too.
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>>100701149
The have introduced some British ships in Arpeggio manga. HMS Repulse and HMS Vampire, and alluded to others (Prince of Wales and the rest of Force Z).
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>>100700518
Bows are so outdated, why not trade them in for some of these new AR-15 receiver converted crossbows? You can even attach your pretty holo sights and PEQ boxes on them.
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>>100701247

I know I can't get enough of British meido ships
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>>100701149
hell yeah
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>>100694144
>Will the JMSDF ever build another Nagato or Yamato, and will they be "destroyers"?
"Yamato" is just too sacred. They won't use that name again unless and until they truly built something that is world-class, unique, and downright frightening.
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>>100701463
But no one going to build a huge ship like pre WW2 dreadnoughts for naval warfare. It is a sitting duck.
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>>100701463

I wonder what most of Japan's young think of Yamato. I mean it really turned out to be a money sink, and even sank like one.
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>>100701534

But you forgot something ducks can walk on land
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>>100701546
Still did more than the Mushashi. I don't even thing it engaged in combat with another ship.

>>100701627
Oh shit.
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>>100701627
America strikes back.
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>>100701546
Most kids think it's cool looking. Although the older ones will start to think about how poetic the whole shit was... with her construction, being out of date right away, sitting there as Yamato Hotel, and dying that useless death on that hopeless sortie.

Most major naval power have that "one" sunken flagship which they fondly recall. Swedes have the Vasa, the British have Mary Rose and Hood, the Spanish have the Santissima Trinidad...

I can't think of a good equal in US. The Arizona simply isn't as laughable a death as any of the other ships listed above.
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>>100701924

The USS Indianapolis
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>>100701986
That's worse than the Arizona. The incompetence of few affects way too many.
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>>100701986
>Indianapolis

She's not exactly state of the art except for her cargo. Not a serious pride of the USN, unlike the Hood and Yamato.
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>>100702167
If she had radar assisted gun sights that made her more advanced than all of the Japanese Navy.
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>>100702327
There were better prestige cruisers than her in the USN. Alaska class for one.
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>>100702167
How about Yorktown?

Scrapping it out till the bitter end at Midway. Being repaired back to battle ready so fast that the Japanese thought she was a whole other carrier they hadn't hit yet.
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>>100701463
Still, it would be amusing if they built a Yamato with the same tonnage as the old one while officially calling it a "super heavy destroyer" or something.
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>>100702881
>the Japanese thought she was a whole other carrier
This is a summary of the Pacific front. US ideology was to throw away only what couldn't be saved, and there was a huge unskilled labor force looking for work. So numerous ships which were worn to a level that Japan would have scrapped them were brought back in a short time. Gave the Japanese a surprise with the Yorktown, and earned Enterprise-6 the nickname of "Grey Ghost".
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>>100703121

A future Yamato would either be a super carrier or a space ship. The name alone would place great expectations on the ship.
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>>100702881
Yorktown died gloriously. It's a shame that US didn't see carriers as the preeminent ships of the navy until Midway really.

I don't know. US doesn't really think that a ship can embody the prestige of the navy and the nation. The Constitution is the only ship that the average Joe would appreciate (like the HMS Victory and the Misaka)
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>>100703272
>>100703121
Well, they won't name a supercarrier "Shinano." for it is bad omen.

The Japanese may never use that name again. I am not sure if the Japanese can think of anything that will be worthy of that name. The name means too much, and even if Japan were to pour its heart and guts out on one ship, they would opt for some other name.

Nagato is more likely as a new flagship for the Japanese fleet in the future. Japan can happily christen a state of the art vassal by that name.
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>>100703208
An Enterprise in Kancolle would have to have ludicrous luck.
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>>100703446
>The Constitution is the only ship that the average Joe would appreciate
Depends on the coast. East, maybe. West is CV70 or CV74 for hometowns, or the E lineage for their WW2 reputation. West seems to have modern preferences in ships, probably due to the Pacific being the place for naval battles in the latter half of the 20th century. The US is big enough that there are state favorites, but no national pride.

Same thing in aero, with Skunkworks, Fairchild, Boeing, etc, being the favorites of their region.
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>>100703878
As lucky as the Yukikaze. I think the Big E is the outstanding ship of the war.
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>>100703878
More tenacity than luck. Like a strict 'anego' girl with a large, loyal gang backing her.
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Enterprise should be the E7 reward for Midway.
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>>100704135

On a national level, I think the US is far more attached to personalities than hardware. The Abram is the best MBT ever, but its not like the Abram itself is a source of national pride. The nation is more acquainted with aerial drones than it is with fighter planes in service.
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>>100704227
The tension between her and CarDiv1 + CarDiv2 would be very explosive. Enterprise lost a sister in Midway after all.
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>>100704404
There's a fair amount of hardware attachment. BB63 and the E lineage are pretty famous; SR71, B2, and A10 are all well-known; and the M16 is iconic after Vietnam. Hardware fanatics are more knowledgeable than Joe Average, since Joe isn't interested in war (counter to stereotypes). All Joe knows about drones is that they're out there, but he's probably been to museums or read about specific retired ships and planes.
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>>100704464
Sounds almost as bad as getting the IJN girls to get along with the USN's sub arm.
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>>100704830
The Americans would see the supercarriers "in general" as the extension of American might and prestige. The sentiment towards hardware is not as intense as other nations.

For example, if you ask a typical John Smith about the dreadnought in UK, he would know that it was THE thing that the Royal Navy was tied to, and asking about Spitfire would immediately make him think of the battle of Britain.

Hans would immediately think of the Tiger as THE TANK of the Wehrmacht. U-Boats are THE SHIPS of the kriegsmarine.
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Visiting the ships is fun. I wanted to do kongous pose at a photo intel spot on the Iowa but refrained from doing so.
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>>100705214
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>>100704464
I don't think there'd be open hostilities, what with 6's daughter 65 being good friends with Japan. Though 6 would bitter towards Zuihou, Hiryuu, and Iku.
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>>100705277
I loved my trip to the Midway.

A gentleman was wearing a flight jacket with this on the back, and I can't forget the precious look on the guy's face when I translated the thing on site, with the man telling me that he knew that he's bound to run into somebody that really knows what it was all about.

Those folks were men with balls of steel. No amount of thanks would ever be enough for the shit they put themselves through.
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>>100705747
>what it was all about
Tell me more.
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>>100705747
Please do explain.
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>>100705825
>Tell me more.
Different Anon here. That looks like a flight-jacket intended for those who emergency-parachuted and landed in territory held by the Taiwanese. The idea being that the airman would be identified as an ally even though he doesn't know a word of Chinese.
The traditional thing is that the airman would be lead to safety and the local military command would reward the civilian that helped out.
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american ships would be funny sounding. it's hard to imagine having a waifu named south dakota or john c butler.
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>>100705825
As I could remember, the gentleman said that he volunteered to the Flying Tigers. They flew in Burma theater and it's a pity that Clarie Lee Chennault wouldn't be recognized for his contribution by Red China because of politics. It is fortunate that Red China didn't banish the memories of the flying tigers altogether.

Then again, I am speaking as a Taiwanese.
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>>100705825
>>100705970
That's a formal sign that either commemorates or designated him as a western ally that assisted the Chinese during war (based on the flag, it was issued by Taiwan)
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>>100706031
Rough translation is along the lines of "Westerner sent to to help the ROC war effort"
"Both soldiers and civilians should aid this person."
"Signed: Air force Command":
"Document Number 0407"
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>>100705747
>>100706106
>>100706112
I will explain. This is the blood chit that the pilots to the Flying Tigers would've carried with him.

(This is a) Foreigner that have come to China to aid in the war. (insert nationality)
May the people and the army personals assist him.

Committee of Aviation.

The nationalist were in power during WW2, so as you can see, it's not the 5 pointed star PRC flag.
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>>100706082
They have nicknames and identification numbers that work fine. 57 could be "X" or "Dako-chan" (dako/deko). 339 could be a reverse trap in butler attire.
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>>100706106
>>Flying Tigers
Holy shit, my grandfather (still alive btw) was an engineer for that team
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>>100706436
Doing that work in mosquito infested Burma... and then having to deal with the bad fortunes of war. They went into China when things were at their worst! I have nothing but respect for your gramps and those folks.
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>>100706436
Lol actually my gramps was one of the chinese member of the team, and he served as a base engineer.

But yes he's had a positive view of the Americans since. He encouraged my father to go study in the US.
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>>100692580
The holds contain air and they frequently ballast and de-ballast water to maintain draft. Anything containing air will float. Also wider surface area creates buoyancy.
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>>100706031
For some reason I don't understand, Kaiji goes around wearing one back in season 1.
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>>100708640
His jacket has the blood chit for the Far East Air Force (Korean War.)



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