The more important question: Rukia when?
thiss week. i hope
Sorry, Kubo's sick, two weeks break.
source or bullshit
Rukia's turn to completely outclass a Stern Ritter.
theyre going down too easily for me. i think an impending gotei massacre is due
Plenty of Stern Ritters left and the Gotei only has a handful of Captains left.
Renji is powerful but he's most likely done for now and the same will be with Rukia.
wasnt it 2-3 chapters ago we saw 2 captains and 1 vices get their shit kick while in bankai?
yeah but i thought it was going to be rape
Why are the Vizard so shit?
Why don't they go bankai whilst donning masks?
there must be a reason they havent used them thus far. plus we havent seen them all fight. Lisa intrigues me - she wasnt a captain but certainly acts like one. she took the lead holding down ichigo and generally seems to be one tough bitch
Kubo fucking them over obviously.
Shinji was taking out in seconds.
right in front of a healer. Momo. he will be back
16 Stern Ritters left, not including Bach/Uryuu.
Gotei captains left: Kyoraku, Ukitake, Kenpachi, Mayuri and Byakuya (Still in Royal Realm)
Other Shinigami: Rukia, Renji and Urahara.
Can't wait to see Shunsui bankai.
I'm anticipating the volume release of the Chapter where Kyoraku doesn't have his eyepatch to see if he fixed it.
makes me wonder if we will see some successful quincy/hollow hybrids
actually... i dont think weve ever seen a vizard go bankai with mask, with the exception of ichigo. maybe he was the only one that could do it? and the vizard captains have more faith in their bankais than a forced upon hollow ability by their hated enemy aizen
Ichigo is The Soul King
Well, Ichigo is technically not a Vaizard - they were failed experiments when Aizen was still fucking around with Hogyouku in hand.
Ichigo is an unexpected result of new wave of experiments done a century later and even Aizen was surprised by the direction his Whitey went.
Been rereading the thousand year blood war arc from chapter 480. It feels good for some weird reason.
thats because it is good. its very good.
Unless they also fix his offering of tea, I'll still believe Aizen was involved.
Spoilers are up on manga serpent.
Volume 61 came out in December. It covers chapters 531 to 540.
Volume 62 will cover chapters 541 to 550 and should come out in March.
Volume 63 will cover chapters 551 to 560 and should come out in June.
Chapter with Shunsui is 559.
Also there are no scans for 61 yet, so additional patience will be required.
I like to read the crazy theories you guys come up with, so does anyone have any that they would like to state?
Rukia gets jobbed
Rukia has been useless since SS
Spoilers from Baidu.
Lots of words this chapter, maybe another explanation of the background of the Quincies and Yhwach.
Only three three who speak: Yhwach, Uryuu, Haschwalth - Uryuu and Haschwalth have some dispute.
这一话只有三人：友哈巴赫 雨龙 哈斯沃德，雨龙和哈斯沃德有些争执
Lots of words this chapter, maybe another explanation of the background of the Quincies and Yhwach.
Only three three who speak: Yhwach, Uryuu, Haschwalth - Uryuu and Haschwalth have some dispute.
Don't let LoN read this chapter, God knows what he's going to come up with if he does.
If we could stop LoN from reading chapters don't you think we would have?
I keep seeing this everywhere. Can someone please tell me what it means?
>God knows what he's going to come up with
I for one can't wait for heated debate foretold here: >>100617630
this post is dedicated to
That was one of the funniest dreams I ever had. But to think that LoN has gotten into my mind to this extent... is a horrifying thought, and not something I would wish for even my worst enemies.
Forgive my tripfaggy vanity - how did you picture us?
I wonder when byakuya is going to show up.
You looked like moot, but for some bizarre reason I knew who you were as if your tripcode was floating above you. LoN... he made a very elaborate infiltration and entrance while wearing some tight ninja/spec ops suit and then suddenly he was wearing some exercise clothes showing his biceps and his face wasn't recognizable.
You two made some sick moves in your breakdance rap battle and the lyrics were things I recalled from your website and some others about Whitey and the Quincy but in rap version.
>You two made some sick moves in your breakdance rap battle and the lyrics were things I recalled from your website and some others about Whitey and the Quincy but in rap version.
So basically we read aloud Mangastream's Bleach translations?
Kinging like Kong and shit.
> People caring about Bleach
Sort of. Ridiculous shit you often read on these threads.
>even Aizen was surprised by the direction his Whitey went
So that's what he calls it
I can still recall the laughing fit i had when Stream called him Whitey
There are a few more captain class Shinigami than that, although they're not all on the battlefield
Shinji took one hit and Momo is healing him, I'd bet on him being back for another round + Bankai reveal
The living world Vizards could show up after they finish the job Mayuri/Shinji gave them, including Love
Hisagi getting a Bankai and not using it seems weird to me, he'll probably be back somehow or other
Yoruichi and Tessai are both captain level and could help out, although their complete absence from this arc so far is odd
Plus there's the Fullbringers, of which at least Ganju is captain level
Of course this is all assuming Kubo remembers those characters, which he probably doesn't by now.
This chapter is has loads of words, probably explains the background of Quincy and Yhwach again. There are only 3 people in this chapter: Yhwach, Ishida and Haschwalth. Ishida and Haschwalth have some arguements
Not bad. I am interested to see what ishida and haschwalth is arguing about.
>>This chapter has loads of words, probably explains the background of Quincy and Yhwach again. There are only 3 people in this chapter: Yhwach, Ishida and Haschwalth. Ishida and Haschwalth have some arguments
Not bad. I am interested to see what ishida and haschwalth is arguing about.
Maybe executing their own?
I hope we go more into Ishida's mind in this chapter, maybe even find out why he decided to go with Juha instead of Ichigo.
Muh quincy pride
Got to love trash talk in bleach
My personal hope/theory is that they lost their edge in battle while in hiding and have become afraid to use their trump cards too soon, thus they've been saving the masks. After all jobbing and getting saved by the usual jobbers (Komamura, Renji, Rukia) they will finally learn to go HAM from the start with mask and bankai without spilling their secrets.
The shiba family are like captain planet. Isshin=Fire, Ganju=Earth, Kaien=Water, Kuukaku=Air, Ichigo=Heart.
>Not reading Bleach at its peak
I feel pretty confident that after Renji and Rukia clean up there will be a little downtime which will allow the jobbers to be allowed. Sacrifice them early for hype, then bring them back for the next wave of fights.
I want Renji to job after beating the insanely exposed and powerful Machoman who beated the vizards (who kubo made job) just to hype some Sternritter, hopefully someone unexpected like the girls (Lilotto?) or that Nanananananananana jamaican
>Nanana still hasn't done anything
I fucking hate you, Kubo.
Look at what this anon said. what if he proves very OP, like, top 5 SR?
The later into the fight they appear, the more likely to be strong.
The later they appear, the more likely they are to be jobbed by Kenpachi or Yachiru.
well he appeared early altogether with the bankai stealers which are precisely the ones that have got offed more recenlty. only As Nodt hasnt reappeared.
I wonder, will Rukia or Rukia/Renji battle As? Or perhaps Byakuya will deal with it personally? Rukia could be a contender with the fire mohawk guy to show how her ice is now potentially better than Hitsugaya's ice by beating him.
Rukia fights As while Renji sidelines and watches.
Yachiru fights Nanana while Kenpachi sidelines and watches.
So I asked you guys on Friday if I should re-read all of Bleach (Left off near the end of the Aizen arc)
I'm glad I did, shit got fucking cuhraaaaaaaaaaaazy.
After seeing Rose's fight, I listened to the pieces of music he referenced.
I liked all of them, specially Ein Heldenleben. Great piece of music.
Which bleach opening is your favorite?
Ranbu no Melody
I like ichirin no hana
OP A SHIT
ED A BEST
NOBODY KNOWS WHO I REALLY AM
I NEVER FELT SO EMPTY BEFORE
MAYURI/NEMU BEST CONCEPT COVER
I like all of them except for 8 and 10
Ah also alones
Life will forever be the best ending for me.
and Houki Boshi.
>MAYURI/NEMU BEST CONCEPT COVER
Seconding as best ed and concept cover.
So it's 2014.
What will happen this Valentine's Week?
AKFG, After Dark.
And best version of best ed:
Haruka Kanata > any other OP/ED
kenpachi solos the rest of the stern ritters
Juha and Ichigo compare mullets for 10 chapters
Ukitake finishes his bath
another cover featuring Rukia and Orihime that has almost completely nothing to do with the chapter
I mean, why Orihime in the hotsprings?
In hot hot something only Rukia was there
I'm not a shipper but it was only logical for Rukia to be there
perhaps Kubo added Orihime to prevent discussions
>not Mayuri - Life is like a Boat
TOOK THE VERY WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH
AND THE NOSTALGIA
>not Zaraki - Tonight tonight tonight
So here's a question.
Why doesn't the 0 division attempt to train the rest of the Gotei 13 like they did for Ichigo and Renji?
I can understand them wanting to train Ichigo, but does Renji get special training because he was just there because he nearly died and needed special treatment? Why can't they do this with more people, what made Renji special?
>What will happen this Valentine's Week?
Yoruichi appears to help soifon, apologizes for leaving her behind.
Grimmjow's Break is the best song by VA though.
Because ichigo friends and they don't really care about soul society
damn after watching this Haruka Kanata compilation of EDs, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-p0U1eWz-M
I feel like watching the Bleach anime again ;_;
Is there any list that list the non-filler episodes?
because its mc pal
its like asking why ppl bother to resurrect yamcha in dbz
Thats not really their jobs and they don't want to just hand out power ups for free. This also could be considered an emergency situation, or the soul king could have something planned.
Just look up a regular episode list, itll be easy to tell whats filler if you've read the manga (which I assume you have).
calling it now, Kempachi's bankai will coat his body in a field that reflects reitsu.
I imagine that the powerup is temporary. The "Royal Training" is not a training at all. Remember that Kirinji replaces damaged reiatsu with clean one, Hikifune fills them to the brim with reiatsu through her food and Ichibei just has them sitting around in a reishi dense area. Eventually they get used to the normal atmosphere of Soul Society and their extra reiatsu is spent over time.
His reiatsu becomes a field in which everyone's reiatsu is neutralized.
Every fight becomes a test of raw strength and skill.
I think there might be some connection that hasn't been revealed yet. Like that they're all part Quincy or something.
I fucking hate my brain. last week on thursday had some kind of prediction/theory which in my own reasoning is one of the most clever things I've ever thought and have read nothing like it, me, being a bleach obsessive that stays all night long (1:39 AM here) in the waiting thread and in the release thread, but wanted to wait until the next wanted thread to try discussing it
and now I can't remember shit.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaah I like that.
The idea is too broken for Shikai, and it's not flashy enough for Bankai.
Would never happen.
Speaking of shikai, does Kenpachi even have a primary shikai ability at all?
>work in uni radio station
>not really paying attention to music
>girl doing show goes to commercial and runs to bathroom
>then dead air
>run into production suite
>need to play anything
>this comes on
>my fucking face when
well wasn't Tousen's Bankai some field that nullified senses?
I think that a reiatsu nullifying field is great
Kenpachi's is in constant shikai-mode, but since he didn't know it's name, he could not activate its abilities.
But he just learned it, so we should be getting shikai abilities soon when he appears.
>Kenpachi's shikai is kidou based
>Unlike yumichka, his sword is in constant shikai
>Can't hide the fact he has a kidou based zanpaktou
>Rukia will never get a Bankai
>Chad will never be useful
>Inoue will never go full blown berserk
>Aizen will never team up with Ichigo to fight some big bad
>Nothing interesting will ever happen with Karin, and Ichigo's friends.
>Kenpachi's shikai is kidou based
>Unlike yumichka, his sword is in constant shikai
>Can't hide the fact he has a kidou based zanpaktou
That would make Yumichika stop hiding his broken as fuck Shikai and beat some Quincies. Speaking of which, there's a drawing with Yumichika and Toofsy in Vollstandig and both are sucking the same energy beam. Does anybody have that image?
Nuburo is out, Bleach should be out in one hour or less. Get hype!
>The Real End
Is it over?
>implying chad won't get his one fight to shine again where he goes full body hollow and beats a lower quincy.
What the fuck
Also damn, those are some detailed bots and armor. More than Kishimioto usually does.
I like this idea with one modification. I don't want to say their reiatsu is quincy, but it's changed because of Ichigo's reiatsu leaking around him. This would be almost like a shinigami version of what happened to Ichigo's human friends. It would also be a good explanation as to why only Ichigo's friends were permitted in the royal realm.
About damn time.
What if the reason Royal Realm will turn up to be bad (at least a villain in Ichigo's eyes) is because they are about to use Karakura to feed the Spirit King?
I mean, the thing must do something to stay alive, and that could be eating a ton of souls, or a soul-rich area.
The reasons why Quincies rebelled was because many hundreds of years ago the Spirit King went on to eat some spirit rich area, more rich that any area ever (perhaps Yhwach being the only survivor of that and the reason why he now is nuts again SS and why every Quincy 'descends' from him). If Yhwach does his Auswhalen, why couldn't the Spirit King do the same?
I like this idea, you should save that.
And then proceeds to get rekt, AGAIN.
my sister is a shipper
found this on her computer
dates way back to 2011
I didnt even know she read manga
Your sister has good taste.
Nice blog. You know what to do, anon.
also, what do?
isn't there some Color Page of Yamamoto saying 'FEED ME MORE SOULS'
was like this but the 'FEED ME SOULS' text
thank you lab member
curiously I went to your site for getting >>100704741
and didn't see this one there. in what section do you have it?
Theories. They aren't all serious ones.
perhaps thats why the Zero members are too young. they also feast on whatever keeps the Spirit King kicking, he sure needs his personal bodyguards to be young and fit (assuming they are contemporary with Yama and they are indeed not fucking old)
The first OP is the only one that matters.
Number One is the only one song that matters.
Oh god is that a spider on Orihime's hair?
This shit is Nadia tier.
Is your sister called Nadia?
yo 011, what is your current time zone?
why the 011?
have you ever seen a big image of the Fake Karakura Town fight where Aizen beats everyone by trolling them mentally as in "Soifon: Stop it, I can't breath" "Aizen: Since when were you under the impression that you needed to breath?"
And it's actually the number that matters. not LM. 11 is kind of my number. Na magical/psychic bullshit, just favorite for various reasons. "Lab Member 0" was easiest way to incorporate it meaningfully.
And no, the only picture I know that has "since when" an "breathe" is that one with Sasuke as Porky.
weird. I remember having seen it once and never again. I remember also having sent you a zip with images for the site, long time ago, which I recently found on a USB, I extracted it and also didn't found that image there.
its been exactly one hour since Nibiru
>lots of words
thats it, its not coming before One Piece.
I wonder if this will be what prompts Ishida to go out and wind up kicking Renji's ass.
>Who are you?
>Just a bystander...who hates Shinigami.
A rematch with inverted results would be glorious.
mark my words, Kira is not dead, or at least it was not the last we'll hear of him. The quincy took his body to force out his bankai and take it or have zombified him or something.
sup LoN, hisashiburi.
Aah, as great as it would be with the inverted results, it'd really suck to see after their bond in the Szyeal fight.
what if the bond is still there? and Ishida doesn't want to fuck over with SS, at least directly, but he is indeed against the Squad 0/King because of >>100703759
not wanting them to eat Karakura or any other living world city? maybe Bach's genocide is nothing compared to the genocide that the RG carry out regularly
At best, Ishida is trying to fool Ywach to get revenge for his mother.
Worst case scenario, he's gone full DARKNESS.
whats the meaning of your name?
good night guys
It's a wrestling term. To job is to out and lose to another wrestler as part of the business, and a jobber is someone who has to "do the job" a lot.
Basically, Rukia will fail/get her ass kicked in an almost mandatory fashion.
Abuelo = Chad's grandfather
Zommari = 7th Espada
By pretending to ship them together as a couple, I make fun of the idiotic shippers who plague these threads from time to time. Plus, you get the occasional retard who believes I ACTUALLY ship them.
Back on topic, looks like the chapter isn't gonna be out for a few more hours at least. Damn.
i just want to go to sleep fucking one piece men
imma dump some poems while we wait
well one piece is out, so...
ahh what I meant is the reason for the pairing, I know who they are but seeing them paired like that seemed so fucking odd/random
dammit anon I made that and wanted to do a classic switcheroo for 05 (chad) and then continue as if nothing happened to see if someone notices
I am convinced Kubo must be high off his gourd when he writes those poems.
some are stupid
some are forced
some are beautiful
but wanshit is piss why did it come out firsT?
>wan piss gets translated before Bleach
maybe because bleach had lots of text, or difficult to clean
also happened last week
There's dialogue in the part of the page where they usually put their watermark, so they can't push themselves to release the chapter without the mandatory 3 watermarks per page.
Bleach has never a lot of text
>lots of text
Oh boy. The Panda translation is going to be an absolute clusterfuck.
Maybe Bleach has lots of epic backgrounds this week and it takes ages to clean.
Man. Brings me back to when Bakuman was running.
Those motherfunkers could dialogue.
most of the times, but when a chapter gets in explanatory mode, text is abundant.
bleach, instead of explaining some things along the way, prefers a bunch of action, then a bunch of condensed explaining, then a bunch of action
Personally i kind like this style. This Nuurutu war is boring as fuck because after each jutsu there's a unecessary long-ass explanation about a lot of uninportant shit.
i kinda like*
Holy shit, in 3 weeks this arc will be two years old. are we halfway through? 2/3rds in? just the beginning of the 1000 kubo years arc?
IT HASN'T EVEN BEGUN
two years? already?
exactly a year ago, Ichigo and Renji were thrown inside Niemeyer's shack of love, to fight the Asauchi which were really hollows
>Sword was 65 chapters ago
Wow...that feels like 3 months ago.
When I first marathoned Bleach and caught up to the translated releases, the newest raw chapter was on 142 (Byakuya releasing Ban Kai against Renji). I think it was April 2005.
>Holy shit, in 3 weeks this arc will be two years old. are we halfway through? 2/3rds in? just the beginning of the 1000 kubo years arc?
Look at it this way.
ICHIGO HAS NOT YET HAD A SINGLE MAJOR FIGHT YET.
Unless you count Quilge. Okay, one semi-major fight.
Anyway. Three more years minimum.
do you have the screenshot of some random 4chan thread where Bale was compared repeatedly with Kermit?
Look at it this way.
Deicide took 5 months.
>The ride never ends
and that wasn't even Aizen's final fight.
meanwhile top 3 espadas fights went fast and fraccion got too much damn exposure.
WHY ISN'T IT OUT YET
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUT TWO HOURS AGO
any minute now
because One Piece.
expect to wait at least another hour.
last week it was like 6 I think after OP.
Look at it this way.
Guts set sail on 11 August 2006.
>I kill Apostles and Apostles accessories.
>I sell Eclipses and Eclipse accesories
>I sell eclipse glasses, prosthetics, and sexual accesories
Lot to translate probably.
Which is good for us, I guess. Contentful chapter is contentful.
imagine buying all those chapters
I sell ships and ship accesories
damn if I had the chance I'd buy all the volumes.
You know, there have been a million jokes about what would happen if Berserk was taken over by Kubo, but it's mostly visual. Now I honestly wonder what the story would be like if he was in charge.
>Guts was evil all along.
>Griffith was also evil all along.
>Casca never actually went full retard and was just pretending.
>She was also evil all along.
>Isidro had magical powers all along.
>Isidro was evil all along.
>Puck was evil all along.
>Schierke was evil all along.
>Farnese was evil all along.
>Serpico was evil all along.
>The rape horse was the real and only good guy.
I'd read it.
>half the content is obscured by pandas
>toofsy has panda badge in uniform
>machoman has panda logo in wresting belt
any other blatant faggotry from them?
>there are so many speech bubbles they still have to figure out where to place them
>there are so much white backgrounds that placing them in there would make them easily eraseable making it difficult to choose where to put them
but two of those are true
also, Miura has completely forgotten Berserk, he is just Idolm@ster now.
Well yeah, obviously Guts is evil and rape horse was the good guy. But the rest on top of it would make it something else.
THOSE MANGAPANDA FAGGOTS REEKING IN AD MONEY WHILE WE DESPERATELY REFRESH THEIR SITE
Naa just kidding, i don't have them, sorry anon-kun! Also, you should try /r/, surely they'll deliver.
Now that's just cruel.
Fake Karakura took like a year though.
While the chapter don't come out, post fanart.
I'd like to get down now...
So, no Rukia this week?
How (or WHY) is she keeping up the released form with those injuries? Grimmjow's vanished with far less.
>upside down Aizen
>DAT upside-down Aizen.
Always get me.
Grimmjow canceled it to conserve his power. I don't think that Resurrection auto-cancels like Bankai.
That's... That is not my pic.
FUCKING TENSA ZANGETSU
Nah, Grimmjow had deep gashes all over the fucking place. Tia just has some scratches/burns and a spike in her heel.
>with every defeated enemy he gets stronger
What a twist.
>YOUNG BACH IS BASICALLY TENSA ZANGETSU BACH
Like many have speculated. Yhwach is a power source whenever a quincy died their soul return back to him making him stronger. Great he is going to be very overpowered by the time this war is over. Probably even more overpowered than aizen.
So the whole point of this shit is because Bach needs to keep eating peoples souls or he goes back to being Hellen Keller?
What the actual fuck, Kubo.
>Bach touched Aizen
>if Aizen dies. Bach will get his power
Good thing Aizen is immortal
so does this confirm that Machoman was actually James all along?
I mean, all that 'while I'm alive you will live too' and Bach just welcoming James back
And Bach is basically Father from FMA. Originally black thing. Takes pieces of himself and gives them to others, then absorb them back.
... and that's about it.
Although it explains quite a lot about Quincies in general, his longevity and confirms origin of his name.
Still, I'd really like proper secondary panels rather than fangirl orgasm fuel.
Good thing Bach didn't touched Zaraki Kenpachi.
He wasn't actually a black thing, that's just flashback vision.
Oh great. Nothing happens the chapter again. Fuck you Kubo.
what part about spreading part of his soul all around you didn't get? or, what if the Bach zaraki fought is THE Bach, then went on to Aizen after switching places.
I didnt quite get the Mask of the Ruler thing. What do you got from that?
incorrect, he also gets the souls of those who his stern ritter touch
This week on Bleach: Metroid Other M.
>I didnt quite get the Mask of the Ruler thing.
I reckon it was Hachwalth's fancy way of saying "I'm in charge of this shit while he's busy absorbin' souls"
The ride never ends.
so he's basically the Anti-Quincy
you must be trolling
just saying his is the regent for when bach is dormant
He has the power of the whole alphabet! somehow this should be scary in context, but said like that he sounds more like a reading book mascot.
Ohh but the one to eat souls is actually Juha
what if the reason why the part of Bach soul in Ichigo looks younger while in Bankai is because Bankai being a Shinigami skill gives his real zampakuto spirit a lot more of power so it is harder for the Quincy part to restrain it?
This chapter also explains the lunacity of how the quincy waged this war like apparent retards and Haschwalds previous talk about the scales of the war.
I don't like this development it means that Yhwach will be nearly unbeatable by the end of this battle. Guess only the soul king and ichigo is strong enough to stop him.
So as predicted, quicies don't really "destroy" hollows, they just store their soul and send it to their leader.
Gonna be fun to fight him, when his death probably is more dangerous than his life of war, because of the soul explosion it could release.
we literally found out why Juha is so powerful, why he kills off those who fail him, what the purpose of the ancestor power is, and that Ishida is likely to die very soon.
Oh, and that Juha is not the christian god, but literally a bastard using the name.
He's a cult leader.
Dr Toofsy needs to kick some shit in.
So Haschwald and Bach switch places between "Father of Quincy" and "Mask of the Ruler" during the night when Bach sleeps. So:
1. The reason Bach called Haschwald back from fighting Shunsei was because the sun was about to set, and he needed him to take over while he slept.
2. Haschwald's comment of "the scales tipping the other way" wasn't a reference to his own power, but rather to Bach falling asleep and Haschwald becoming the new king. Cang Du said he would only die "by His Majesty's hand." But since Haschwald became the ruler, he was able to kill Cang Du.
3. The reason why Haschwald seemed so concerned over Ichigo's assbeating at the hands of Bach was because at the time he was "Father of Quincy", and so naturally was concerned for his son. The father has empathy, while the ruler is a cold bastard. Ishida noted in this chapter that Haschwald's expression was much different than usual.
>Bach absorbed Kira
>Bach absorbed Sasakibe
>Bach absorbed Yamamoto
>and thousands of random shinigamis
>No stern ritter M
>what if while Bach is Asleep, Toofsy's "[B]alance" switches to "[M]ask of the Ruler" ?
you high son? he does everything that jesus is purported to do
Also yfw the soul king is in fact the first Quincy
Kenpachi is not there with other characters when Jugram told Ishida some shinigami could touch the piece of his soul. I bet they will have rematch either way so it doesn't matter.
>I didnt quite get the Mask of the Ruler thing. What do you got from that?
I'll wait for different translations to form proper theories.
Except everybody dies for his sins, not he for theirs.
So, spirit king is also name Juha baha, right?
I hadn't even figured that out.
THAT'S why the souls don't enter the cycle of rebirth.
So, wait... WAIT A SEC
If they kill Juha, either all the quincies will lose their power
Quincies will finally be free to kill hollows WITHOUT taking their souls.
Forever causing peace between them.
>In the end bach will become a babby again
Now all we need is a flashback explaining why is aizen so strong.
Well... yes, it sure seems like it.
and Orihime will adopt him and raise him properly so he's an ally in Bleach GT.
>Bach touches someone
>Gets their power when they die
Does this include people he touched?
>Bach touches Fred
>Fred touches 50 people, kills himself
>Bach gets Fred + 50 other people's power
And I guess that's why he did it to Ishida? So he can absorb Ishida's shit?
Inb4 Ishida reverses it somehow 'cos Ryuuken keikaku'D
not only his demeanor changes
but there must also be a switch in his powers
So how was he living during the time the Quincies were thought to be extinct? And what does he plan to do after he annihilates the Shinigami?
imo, it's because the king likes to have fun and put some anormal pieces in his game from time to time like urahara or Kempachi. I think the King is the same as Juha in the end, all shinigamis are some spawns of his power, and the zampakutous work the same as the blood ritual, it plugs your soul to a different power. the "iner world" of shinigamies are an interface mini universe between their soul and the king's.
They probably killed a lot of stuff before SS before nearly facing annihilation.
>So how was he living during the time the Quincies were thought to be extinct?
Barely, probably reverted to his baby-stage until they managed to grow in numbers again and provide him with necessary power.
Should take about, say, 1000 years.
>So the whole point of this shit is because Bach needs to keep eating peoples souls or he goes back to being Hellen Keller?
>What the actual fuck, Kubo.
Not quite. Remember that Ishida is his chosen "successor".
He's probably planning to die and migrate his spirit, or at least his will, to a body that doesn't shut down if it isn't constantly sucking up other people's souls.
>everything jesus purported to do
Jesus didn't start performing miracles until he was an adult
Furthermore, Jesus had a name first.
In addition, people were not dying horribly around jesus simply because of their miracles
Lastly, Juha clearly states that he adopted the name of their god. Jesus clearly did not.
Besides, Jesus never refers to himself as God.
This chapter pretty much confirms Bach's fate worse than death in the end.
Maybe Ishida will take over and become benevolent quincy god?
he went back to baby mode for 900 years, remember the legend of the quincy.
Now we know Yamamoto didn't kill Juha in the first war because he became a baby and as a cold bastard yamamoto was, he couldn't kill a defenseless baby.
Mayuri would have done the job all right.
by hiding in the shadow realm and giving his power out to a bunch of nobodies
Juha Bach is the evil Jesus
>And what does he plan to do after he annihilates the Shinigami?
It's a battle of survival for him. He probably wants to anihilates the shinigami so he can acquire enough soul power to go toe to toe with the biggest guns, aka the King. Or maybe he just hope that at a certain level of soul, he will get a buffer of soul big enough to live without the need of war.
>implying aizens bankai won't specifically be he eats all the life force of a person with whatever his sword hits so when bach thinks he can take aizen aizen straight out eats his life force and goes god mode again.
Second coming. dur
>so does this confirm that Machoman was actually James all along?
>I mean, all that 'while I'm alive you will live too' and Bach just welcoming James back
I think so. How sad. His only fan was himself.
you die, I win
you kill them, I win
they kill you, I win
they kill them, I win
I kill them, I win
I kill you, I win
What's Aizen gonna do now?
You don't really think Uryuu is with the Sternritter because he supports them and wants their plan to come to fruition. I mean, if they win, SS and the real world will collide and the world will end. I can only imagine Bach has some way to ensure the Quincy will be able to survival, but SS at least will be completely fucked. Uryuu wouldn't even kill Cirucci - do you really think he'd be fine with helping the people who are trying to destroy the world?
He also must know that Orihime and Chad will support Ichigo. So even if he fought Ichigo for real because he's a Shinigami, is he going to fight non-Shinigami who are his friends, one of whom he once nearly died (twice) trying to save?
Oh, then there's the fact that Bach killed his mom as such as if he stabbed her in the chest. Bach probably knows that Ishida is only feigning support for him in hopes Bach shows an opening or a weakness since he knows he can't fight him directly as he is.
The question is, why is Bach, even if the idea that Ishida could be his successor and surpass him is legit, invited someone who, whatever his grievances against Shinigami, would obviously have a huge grudge against him and would only agree to join him for the purpose of subverting him from within. I can only suppose that having Uryuu close at hand has some kind of benefit for the Sternritter that Uryuu doesn't know about and wouldn't anticipate. I'd want to say it was the thing about him surviving the Auswählen meaning that Uryuu could potentially pose a large threat if he discovered his potential while fighting the Sternritter, and so by drawing him in without him knowing about his potential, he was able to neutralize the threat. The problem with this is, why tell Uryuu about that potential, which he did, if you brought him in to avoid that very thing. So it might be something completely unforeseen.
nope. nope. nope. no. i wont accept it.
Is it weird that I want to have a threesome with these two?
And so he could finally.... die.
That would be glorious, the villain fighting a war for the right to die, while the SS prevents him to do so because they are dicks.
I wonder if that's actually his plan to keep the quincies alive.
by giving them a leader that won't be plagued by his illness.
So does that mean Yhwach added Yamamoto's power to his own?
And then you could be with Rukia forever inside of Bach when you die.
We saw cang du die
and we saw Juha acknowledge james
but he never acknowledged bambietta
I like the allegory. Christians exist because Jesus and God gave them what they were seeking in return for their souls
are you ever gonna stop talking to yourself? This crap hasn't gotten so boring the way you sit here and keep yip'yapping... It's enough to put a person to sleep!
More like the evil Yahweh
But Ishida, like all double agents in fiction, will probably wind up having to fight his actual allies to maintain his cover.
She's dead Jim
What do you think here friends did to her?
spirit power, yes. Zampakutou, no.
She was absorbed into the slut squad
>better at being a hollow than hollows
Sauce on gif? I know its fate something.
He did capture his bankai though.
>Also yfw the soul king is in fact the first Quincy
Naw, he's the Shinigami counterpart. The dead soul who passed his power to other deal souls.
Weren't the Yourselves born already with powers/letters?
Inherited/regular powers are the ones quincies like old ishida and ryuken had, but the very specialized powers are the ones the Stern Ritter with letters have.
perhaps the Yourselves are more special than what we know, adding to the fact that they pulled of good fights with Zaraki/Yamamoto
but this was explained this chapter, they all knew Uryuu went to the sternritter with plans to avenge his mother, but yuha fucked him making him drink his blood.
cause he gets a power boost the stronger they are, he couldn't give a singular flying shit about the other sternritters, as long as he doesn't die.
therefore, he may as well make him stronger because this could also be an arrogance thing where he may not actually be able to die, ever so its not like ishida can actually beat him so he may as well power level his ass before he eats his energy.
>in b4 you gotta kill toofsy and bach and the same god damn time to kill them both and thats aprt of the bullshit.
>Juha's powerlevel is now 2x Yamamoto plus everyone who died so far
No amount of Royal training is gonna make Ichigo this fucking strong.
He doesn't LITERALLY become a baby
he just reverts to a dormant state.
I actually wonder if that was the thing. Yamamoto did't defeat Juha because he wiped out his entire army first, meaning the following day Juha was super powerful from all the returned souls, and Yamamoto couldn't defeat him. However, at the end of the day, he had used up so much power and there were no more quincies dying that he went into hibernation mode.
>yfw it's revealed that the quincy massacre 200 years ago was actually a set up by juha loyalists attempting to revive Juha early
He got better at targeting/crafting powers. Probably he made their mother drink his blood or something.
You underestimate the power of plot armour
Yeah which means he can kill ishida anytime and gain his powers
So when Renji and Rukia arrived it was turning night and now it's turning day. Ichigo said it would take him about half a day to get there so we can assume he will be arriving sometime soon. Right?
fuck you kubo
Ichigo is half juha, and I can alraedy smell Kubo telling us that his inner juha proportionally grow as the original grows
this is kubo dipshit, also he may have aizen helping him on this one cause fuck bach.
Now the whole 999 years recovery makes sense.
I wonder what would happen if Toofsy died and Juha had to go to sleep.
>Ichigo is half juha
Based on this chapter, every Quincy is.
he gets shanked by aizen and aizen gets some bullshit plot powerboost.
Seal away that mofo
Maybe that's the key to defeating him. Killing Haschwalth first, then killing Yhwach in his sleep.
Ishidas fw he just fucked himself in the ass
also, whats up with the mythos of the king being asleep for 900 years, an idiot for 90, and not fully powered for 9?
did he create the yourselves while he was an idiot? because for sure they werent born in the last 9 years.
I wonder if, instead of losing the bankai when the shinigami dies (as it's heavily implied) if the shinigami actually has part of their soul go back to juha, if juha has the bankai then he can still use it.
>Juha is fucking Darth Nihilus
Does this explain why the hollow essence is lethal to quincies?
also could that mean that whatever happened 1000 years ago returned him to babby state and thats why Toofsy knows it can happen?
it specifically says that he gives the initial of the power in THEIR soul
in other words, the individuals must have the powers already, and he amplifies it with his own.
Wait... so if Ichigo dies, his power returns to Yhwach? Good thing he didn't die like 3 times already.
Sorry but they're Ichigos bitches anon
and why can't the quincies have a stolen bankai AND use voldstang at the same time?
>Christian god is evil, eats worshippers' souls for surviving
I always knew something was foul with that thing...
Quincy God Final Hogyouku Transformation Aizen with glasses mode
Is today's chapter worthy of adding to "HOW MUCH MORE REAL CAN SHIT GET?: THE ARC" sheet?
They will name him
The only way for Ichigo to win is to use Rengoku-Musou-Bakunetsu-Hadou-Hou.
Not specifically, but I can see why the nature of hollows, that seek and devour souls and assimiliate it for themselves, would disturb the quincy power, that is like a soul implant in the end.
there's only 8-10 hours of night per day, and Renji and Rukia arrived after nightfall, so Ichigo's still got a couple hours
Sure can't wait for the epic Bleach Hearts 3 fight with the 26 Juha Bachs versus the 15 Ichigos
It's as worthy as it gets, imo.
> Bleach GT
WHAT IF Bach is the Son of the Spirit King, to complete the Jesus Parallel.
And he plans to kill his father to take his place?
How come the people who touched bach died quickly?
I'd kill my dad too if I was created as a paralyzed baby with no senses.
>implying Ichigo didn't stop tot he demon strip club on his way back
I mean come on, it's like THE attraction to do when you do that trip.
Living conditions 1000 years earlier?
>Is today's chapter worthy of adding to "HOW MUCH MORE REAL CAN SHIT GET?: THE ARC" sheet?
EVERY ALLY/FOE DEATH MAKES YHWACH STRONGER
URYUU DUN GOOFED
TRADE YOUR SOUL FOR ILLUSORY SALVATION
Is Toofsy already half Bach?
because voldstandig is likely the same as the letters
power that juha is giving them.
Considering juha's comments and the simultaneous activation of multiple stern ritters.
I'm assuming he can kill them at will once they take in his power. As soon as he realized what his power did he started taking it back, only he couldn't kill them all at once or they'd stop feeding him, so he took it slow and they continued to give him more souls.
What would be the key aspect?
"YHWACH WAS A NIGGLET"?
Remember he can recall his power from those he deems unworthy?
If you know that much then why even ask?
Someone please do this
maybe not fit to handle that power
His spirit pressure grew inside them, and sense it wasn't their own they got crushed by it.
I think he just sprung that on Uryuu today.
That's not the allegory
they are literally selling their souls to the devil
juha is the antichrist.
The more Bach needs to live, the harder his borrowed soul parts try to get back to him after being borrowed?
and what the fuck happened during the whole night? only james died? what about the rest of the shit going on?
Now I can see why aizen distorting time perception can be a HUGE problem to Juha.
Because they were not strong enough to handle the soul of another individual in their body.
It's why all the Sternritter are strong. You need to be at a certain level to not die quickly from his soul.
something about Uryuu fucking up
Bach paralelling christian god where people 'gets' salvation in exchange of their souls
Something about Bach powering up NO FUCKING MATTERING WHO DIES ON WHAT SIDE
So didn't the Shinigami like, monitor that kid?
This make the most sense.
>mfw I just noticed Juha's mustache is way bigger due to him having absorbed Superstar
This chapter was just stupid
Juha needs his beauty sleep.
How can hope be real if our eyes aren't real
Don't worry Kubo is going to get back to him in a few months and he and Urahara and the rest of the gang will have already been jobbed by the hidden final boss Quincy.
We need a comparison picture now
Yhwach confirmed for jew.
Wait, fuck, listen guys.
If Juha becomes father only during his sleep wouldn't that mean that all the remaining time it's Toofsy who absorbs souls and power?
Probably that's what started the war.
Hey guys, I just thought about something. Juha's quincy power are bestowed through letters. But the zampakutou stealing device has a cross on it. Could that cross actually be a *. You know the character you use to replace any letter in a computer search. Basically the medaillon powers allows quincy to tap into the swords because they are using a wild card to let their soul interface with it. Since the symbol allows to interface with letters and symbol you don't even know.
What do you think? too nerdy?
SOYLENT QUINCY IS JUHA
>would his bulge grow too?
also Superstar confirmed for being one with James. In the end only he rooted for himself.
not if they are touched by a quincy that has drinked juha's blood.
right after we have seen Kenpachis shikai (and Zaraki has been KO'ed) and Ichigos new swords being shattered.
Grimmjaw comes in and starts kicking bubblegum and chewing ass with his NEW SUPER HOLLOW FORM or whatever
>that mythos about soul society women sleeping for 10 years for regaining beauty
kubo was right all along
what if juha didn't absorb yamamoto's soul? I think he destroyed it before yamamoto was completly dead.
>More like the evil Yahweh
isn't that redundant?
That is actually... Pretty sad.
>MFW I can relate to that.
So we can be sure Bambietta and the Bambiettes are alive as long as Juha doesn't grow a pair of tits? What a relief.
that said it would make sense that a spirit that give and create would be a female figure. And he's quite an androgynous bishi in his youth.
maybe they tried genociding the people surronding him so he would not keep powering from their souls
or tried trapping him in soul society, unaware of him leaving traces around and that making place for his hideout
SOUL KING IS ACTUALLY SOUL QUEEN AND IS SLEEPING TO GET SUPER BEAUTIFUL
Soylent Juha is Quincy?
Considering the shinigami currently only have Shunsui, Ukitake, Kenpachi, Mayuri, Rukia, and Renji at their disposal, with an obvious incoming Ichigo and Byakuya, versus 12 or so quincies?
And also presuming that Rukia will get into a fight that will culminate with byakuya saving her...
that's not good odds
so likely we'll see the hueco mundo crew within a few months
He's one evil god, that Yahwe. Not just an arrogant jerk like Zeus, or a bastard like Odin, no, he's outright evil.
Why is almost everything regarding quincies 'lightful' in nature, but everything regarding yhwach 'shadowful' in nature?
no, soylent green is people means the product soylent green is revealed to secretly be people
So the product quincy is secretly juha
Soylent quincy is juha
1000 YEARS DONT COME IN CHEAP
HURRY TO REGAIN THAT BISHIE LOOK
to maintain the Balance...
actually I wouldn't be surprised if it's revealed the soul king is similar, and purposely sleeping because he absorbs souls constantly.
Ichigo will have to mercy kill him in the end.
>blah blah blah bach is bitch nigga who gets stronger when his nazis die
Such originality kubo. Now kill yourself.
So Bach is YHWH.
And more importantly, should I convert?
I bet "quincy" are literally JUST fullbringers that juha's power corrupts.
Bringer light sound familiar?
oh shit. infanticide
Ichgo, Renji, Rukia, and Byakuya could sweep the rest of the quincy.
Also what happened to Iba and Kommamura, did it atke an entire night to walk to the castle?
doesn't work, traces of hollows are enough to damage quincy powers.
so in essence Yhwh is a black hole for souls?
Jawach isn't bad. He's just following his nature, he didn't chose to be born that way, and behaving like he does is the only thing he can do to stay alive.
You can't blame a tree for drying the ground of nutrients while it's growing.
[1:1] In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth,
[1:2] the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters.
[1:3] Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
[1:4] And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness.
[1:5] God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.
>So Bach is YHWH.
That surprised nobody, though.
>hitler did nothing wrong
yeah but if a tree starts extending it's roots into my basement, it's time to cut it down.
soul king will be the creator of souls, juha is like a black hole of souls.
Sorry, I should have been more specific
I didn't mean literally the fullbringer themselves. Obviously that couldn't work since quincies have bloodlines.
I mean that the quincies are basically descendents of fullbringers that juha's power heals.
Remember, his power heals. It's different from other quincies.
>I wonder what would happen if Toofsy died and Juha had to go to sleep.
The manga would end very anticlimactically?
hitler was a shinigami
I want Gaga to leave.
>manga ends with Juha going to bed and snuggling into his pillow
and what the fuck are Ukitake, Urahara and Mayuri doing?
Also, if the shinigami know of the nature of juha (yamamoto and que RG should've know), why do they keep fighting him, instead of avoiding him like the plague?
Yes he was
I got the reference. It just doesn't slip off the tongue nicely. There has to be a better way to word it.
So is that why Vollstandig doesn't burn out the Stern Ritter? Because they have Yhwach's soul in them?
How does the hollow tainting Quincy soul work?
Hollow reiatsu was what got Masaki in such peril, and made the Quincies lose bankai
Yet Quilge absorbed a hollow to use it, hollows can be given Quincy power (not the other way around) and it seems Juha can feed from hollows normally (hollows killed by quincies not following the flow of souls, him killing Ivan perhaps to get his memories from his encounter with Ichigo)
Also perhaps this is how Bach got the Daten
No infiltrates, he just killed some random shinigami and started assessing their memories regarding the weak spots of soul society and the powers of its members.
So Bleach will end with Bach turning back into a baby like Pride from FMA?
>and what the fuck are Ukitake, Urahara and Mayuri doing?
since SS is holding a siege I'm not too concerned. However what are the 10 surviving Quincies doing is more important imo. If they only deployed to hunt down shinigamis they are doing a shit job. I raelly hope they aren't all actually seeking for the guy they stole the bankai from, this would be ridiculous.
I'd say the Soul King is probably more like a tree and Ywach would have been the Quincy equivalent had he not developed a personality. Aizen did refer to the SK as "it" after all.
4 of them were busy stalking bambietta until she died.
>implying Juha is the final big baddie
since when were you under the delusion I was >implying that?
Haha holy shit, what's this from?
after all this I suddenly got some existential shivers
I don't want to die anons... ;_;
because the hollow will try to eat the soul and incorporate to themselves, and turn it into more hollow, therefore efectivally fucking up jawach and diminishing his original soul for real?
>hollows can be given Quincy power
Not exactly. Arrancars can be given Quincy powers. Arrancars are self-made hollow/shinigami hybrids.
then why Kirge?
>The manga would end
>implying the manga will finish if yuha/toofsty are defeated
>not wanting to become a badass hollow with tons of half naked sluts around you and a delicious brown queen to serve
>not wanting to serve Juha sama in his glorious quest for perfection
>not wanting to end up randomly in some shitty japanese slums worse than Brazilian favelas where good looking samourai have total control about you, your acts, your possessions
well, 2/3 isn't too bad, right.
Quilge absorbed the hollow Reishi he shouldn't be effected by it. I think you need to reread on how Quincy and Reishi work.
Because of his ability.
Reverse image search.
but I'm nice it's from Koizumi, but I'll let you find out which sites have the complete scans and which randomly skip over entire arcs for some reason
>not knowing koizumi
out with you.
Kirge was going all out and lacked of other options. It was probably a short term power up ending up with his death.
Cause it looked cool as fuck screw consistency
Well this chapter made me realise one more thing.
Despite this insane power, he still lost to a non serious Yama way back then.
What a sore loser.
Anyone else think Yhwach will revert to bishounen age when he's fully powered up?
I dunno. Remember that Yhwach made several Arrancar into Quincies and then killed them himself, which should result in him getting a bit of them. Not to mention draining the lifeforces of *all* the Hollow-contaminated Quincies to regain his strength. He's probably resistant or immune to Hollow contamination himself, but Hollow power causes problems for lesser Quincies like Masaki and jams up their new Bankai-stealing technology.
he "wore" allon, it was over him, not incorporated in his soul.
The Spirit King is like Bach except for everything that exists. Bach isn't even a threat it's just that the SK is greedy and doesn't want to share.
Well Looks like Tsukishima or Rukia's real brother.
maybe because when his soul is together he can effectively counter the hollow, but when it's just a small part of his soul it can't?
Also arrancars are not exactly hollows anymore, they were almost shinigami iirc
Was Gin in a totally different league from Tosen or was Tosen really weak?
guys remember sklaverei?
Mostly the first, a little bit of the second.
I think that.... >>100712620
Also, fullbringers showed us that objects have souls too, so, if a quincy drinks wiskey, doe sjuha get the wiskey's soul and get's drunk?
Well Yama must have fucked him pretty hard.
Also there seems to be a Limit to this power.
yama lived more than a thousand years after coming into contact with him.
tousen was weaker than soifon
So Mayuri is MVP now?
Thanks, Anon. I'll look it up.
I shall hang myself as a form of penance.
Strange how ichigo has been granted powers by the soul king in the same way yhwh grants powers...
yama didn't got a part of yawach soul within him.
>mfw the peice of yawach soul went to the asauchi's, as they only touched the zanpakutous and not the shinigami bodies, and that's why they can steal bankai.
Well, but from the chapters Explanation it works like an infection that spreads on contact.
So this means that the whole "Quincies obliterate souls" thing was bullshit after all and it was always about keeping yhwh from getting strong.
from the point of view of the shinigami the souls got destroyed, msot of them, except maybe the top tier, didn't knew shit about the quincies or juha.
he absorbs the souls
He actually does seem to care in some way for his men.
I think I figured it out. Hollows are THE HEART, shinigami/fullbringers are just strong people with weaponized hollows, and even the hogyoku's "wishes" are granted in the form of hollow-derivative powers... it all leads back to hollows. But Komamura's doggy people seem to be a bit different. They somehow change into ordinary looking (size aside) animals because of their emotional/mental state, and got their own power set out of it.
What if Yhwach is the same situation, only becoming a literally selfless miracle baby because he was born abnormally selfless and altruistic?
only when he's the father.
>So this means that the whole "Quincies obliterate souls" thing was bullshit after all and it was always about keeping yhwh from getting strong.
more like it's to keep him from constantly being fed disgusting Hollow reiatsu.
He's just a spiritual mutant. He's the Professor X to the Soul King's Magneto. Or maybe the other way around.
I wonder if Aizen knew about this. He wanted to kill the soul king. Was he oblivious to Ywach (shit i dont even know what to call him anymore) and his powers? He must have known about him but maybe not his true power revealed today.
So what was the point of Aizens plans?
- He didnt think ywach would ever come back, so his plans was as "simple" as explained in the manga. Kill soul king because Aizen believes he is bad, and take over SS himself.
- He knew ywach would come, and soul king would do nothing, so he wanted to replace soul king and fight back.
- soul king plays a role we do not know yet, and killing soul king could perhaps weaken ywach, or do something that would distrupt his plans.
- the theory some anons have, that it was all a plan to force SS to power up because he knew ywach was coming, and nobody would have believed him anyway. Personally i dont believe this theory, as what Aizen says to uruhara (only person aizen see's as an equal in intellect, that says a lot about uruhara) right before being captured, was his true intentions.
- Aizen just wants to watch the world burn.
>- Aizen just wants to watch the world burn.
I'll pick this one.
- Aizen knew about the prophecy and made sure it would come true by somehow beginning Yhwach's recovery process, because he wanted to take down the Soul King no matter what and was going to use Yhwach as a contingency plan in case he failed.
>this fucking chapter
>yahweh wanted the shinigami to take back their bankai
>yahweh wanted his quincy to fall in battle
This chapter's revelations puts a whole new spin on this. Did Bach completely destroy Yamamoto because by touching Bach he would have been completely healed? Does this mean that Bach now has Yamamoto's soul as well as his Bankai?
Well shit, looks like the speculation was right.
Aizen refusing to co-op with ywach, AND mess with his sense of time, says quite clearly he does not want to work with Ywach or use him.
I dont think Aizen forced the recovery, because that would make killing soul king harder with the quincies running around. Perhaps he wanted to kill soul king before quincies come running, and now that they are here he is sitting the war out.
>Does this mean that Bach now has Yamamoto's soul as well as his Bankai?
I'm not sure. It sounds like Bach's plan was to take their souls by allowing the bankai to be stolen back; I interpret it as they stole the bankais so he could "carve" his initial into them, so when they returned to the shinigami, they became "his" forever. Yama-jii was killed without his bankai, so I assume he only gets to keep the bankai and not Yama's soul itself; or maybe the bankai itself can't exist with Yama dead? It's still a bit ambiguous.
Yamamoto must have known about Ywach's true power. He must have.
He must have thought the only way to defeat him was utter brute force.
So if Yamamoto knows of his powers, touching ywach have to be deliberate.
If not? Well fuck.
Aizen is actually benevolent but lacks human empathy and sensitivity to understand that the sacrifice he needs to achieve his goal have a price.
No, remember that the Bankai stealers were supposed to kill the original owners? That's exactly what Yhwach did to Yamamoto. There must have been some benefit to doing that. The Shinigami being able to reverse the stealing was just an eventual counter that he was prepared for.
Aizen was actually using hollows, the other beings that absorb souls, and making them stronger.
The fight with the soul society was not to conquer it, but to test the hollows agaisnt the captains,b ecause if theywe re not fit to beat a captain, the could never hope to beat quincies.
I'm pretty sure this is going to be pretty much EXACTLY like Full Metal Alchemist.
Someone is going to keikaku a lot of the souls out of Juha and then everyone is going to just gang up and beat the power out of him.
>No, remember that the Bankai stealers were supposed to kill the original owners?
Nope. They may have been ORDERED to kill the shinigami, but Bach expected the bankai stealers to die. It was all part of his plan. Get off the 1st level, anon.
>So if Yamamoto knows of his powers, touching ywach have to be deliberate.
Nah. Yamamoto got touched by Yhwach pretty damn bad right before that.
you really trying to count grabbing his cloak as touching?
So that's what Haschwalth was taking about when he said that Ishida didn't knew what Bach did to him. He's already included on Bach's soul menu.
Good to know that the Sternritter have Ishida's info on him and just don't assume he wants to join in out of the kindness of his heart.
There is a Limit to this power obviously.
Yama fought and beat Bach without even going seriously at him, but despite the contact he lived at least 1000 year aftr that.
Yamamoto's banaki can burn and desintegrate the soul, and incorporate it to zanka no tachi... oh fuck.....
Yamamoto was the only fucking one that could defeat yawach, because ryujin jakka got hold of the souls of the ones killed by them.
The dead quincies he shows to the yourself... oh fuck oh fuck....
fucking kubo. Yawach recovered WAY more when he got yamamoto's banakina dkille dhim.
Well thats true, he would have been absorbed the first time they fought.
i dont even know what the fuck you are talking about
Well now this is interesting.
Could explain why Yama alo was not already living his life in royal realm.
If this kind of power posses a threat to Soul King.
Also could you imagine a royal realm buffed up OMG.
>ichigo steals the bankai back
Remember, they dont absorb bankai's, only steal them, and they cant use both bankai and quincy powers at the same time.
And that powers is yama's bankai power, not his own.
So someone gaining yama's bankai is possible. As you explain, it is the perfect counter to ywach.
Maybe when a quincy is killed by a hollow, the quincies soul will go to the soul king?
holy shit it fits
yes I fucked up the grammar, but you get the idea.
Ryujin Jakka, when killing someone, grabbed his soul, and when in bankai, zanka no tachi can call the souls of all it has killed, so in the fight with yawach, yamamoto actually weakened him by burning and consuming his soul bit by bit while killing other quincies.
When yawach killed yamamoto and stole his bankai, he recovered all those souls lost 1000 years ago.
the skeleton army means Yamamoto bankais keeps the sould of the defeated for itself. which prevent the power lent by Juha to come back to him. So in theory it's the only way to deal with Quincy properly without making their leader stronger.
>When yawach killed yamamoto and stole his bankai, he recovered all those souls lost 1000 years ago.
>ichigo steals the bankai back
OH GOD I CAN SEE IT HAPPENING!
yeah but yawach has his own counter now, so he most probably got all the souls back.
>ichigo getting yama's bankai in addition to his own
it's just so retardedly over-the-top it's going to happen now
Stored souls or not, the power is still there. So whoever posses the bankai, can slowly chip away the souls pieces and storing it in the bankai.
He trained them wrong. As a joke.
shit is getting way more real than we even imagined.
STOP GIVING KUBO IDEAS
Anyone remember when quincy where a specilized tribe of Magic hunters?
So wait, does that mean that everything we thought we knew about Quincy powers was a lie? They don't actually obliterate what they absorb, but instead feed it to Yhwach?
yeah, and I think the lethalty of hollows to quincy may be the same, they retain the souls effectively weakening yawach for real.
Update version when?
>bambietta is one with ichigo and ishida's moms
excuse me i have to go fap
Anyone remember when Uryuu was the last one left, so he carried the pride of a dying culture?
So Yhwach refers to YHWH (i.e. Yahweh)? I don't think Kubo quite understands how that word works. No one who believed in a Judeo-Christian system would call a magic baby that. A Jew wouldn't use the word at all, since that's the first commandment, and a Christian would call that blasphemy.
they were like that because that was the only way to e free of yuha's curse, and be really free.
Maybe the quincies that killed hollows that way really destroyed teh soul, while yuha's quincies sent it to his king?
Film sensing that the soul kings power = hollow power which trumps Bach's abilities. Or something.
So in the end the Bankai stealing part was all truly just developed by Bach to have even a possibility at beating OMG.
I think this has been speculated several times now.
Some even said: what if Yama is actually the founder of the Shiba clan or some sort of ancestor to them
Remember Yama's power is the sun, Getsuga is a fire based ability, Ichigo's past power is sometimes symbolised by a black sun.
I believe it was also updated last week but I never got that version either T.T
maybe there's a part of truth in it >>100714348
Why won't you update it?
You realize there's like, a million fucking different sects and cults of christianity, and you can't claim to know what every single one of them would think based only on your own narrow biases, right?
Sure looks like it right now.
Know shit about editing. You update it.
But that's EXACTLY what christians did. They took a mortal and decided to start calling him God 40 years after he died
>symbolised by a black sun.
a black moon
I don't have any good idea.
What with Ichigo having an incarnation of Yhwach in his head, this puts a different spin on the way Ichigo's allies got powers just by being near him.
>YFW Ichigo has the same powers as Yhwach does, and, upon learning that, gives all his power to those close to him.
>And then they all kill the shit out of Yhwach.
Could be that they were just praising god while being healed.
Not your personal photoshop monkeys. If you want new content get off your ass and start contributing.
>So in the end the Bankai stealing part was all truly just developed by Bach to have even a possibility at beating
the medallions were the same as wonderweiss, a way to seal only yamamoto's zanpakuto.
It only shows what a real badass yamamoto was, and how exaggerated and retarded it is when they say hitsugaya's zanpakuto is it's equal of ice.
Ichigo is Black Sun. Zangetsu is Black Moon.
>Ichigo is, by a stretch of definition, the spirit-child of Aizen and Bach.
>There will never be a My Two Dads slice-of-life spinoff
>Ichigo gives everyone his power
>they all die because of it
what if the hyougoku absorbed a bit of yawach soul?
No it just means Kubo retconned everything. The man is a terrible writer but I can't get off the ride.
Zangetsu isn't shit.
It's Ichigo/Black Sun and Rukia/White Moon
if this is true then the conservation of souls is maintained and what eventually occurs, at some point, is a God (Soul King) vs. God (Bach or equivalent human capable of soul distribution) showdown to decide the next Soul King and the whole cycle starts again.
>how exaggerated and retarded it is when they say hitsugaya's zanpakuto is it's equal of ice.
Hiyorinmaru has its own history. While Hitsugaya is a kid, it's highly possible one of its former wielder achieved way more with it than what we saw the little punk do.
for once that thing with putting his opponents in Ice coffins is just as powerful as Yamamoto's skeleton to prevent Bach from getting his power back.
I don't think Soul King and Bach are equals in competition, more like diametric opposites. Soul King may be the "source" of souls or spiritual power, basically a well churning them out, and Bach is a "black hole" that sucks them all in.
Yeah, well, no.
Look at the hilt of fake bankai zangetsu again!
>son of God /= God
Christians are irrationally touchy when it comes to that holy trinity shit. They argue until you say "I dont understand" then they smile smugly and give you a earful on "faith"
Well played. :/
hyorinmaru doesnt have its own history
Its just the most powerful ice type zanapkatou in existence
and the only other ice type zanpaktou we know of is rukia
Looks like you don't know shit about Christianity, son. Back to catechism with you.
remember when there were only 2 dualwields in all of soul society?
>Bach: James died.
James was a weak pudgy little man.
His Majesty's power allowed him to transform into a super star. A masked hero.
... Right now?
actually it's a trinity, since eventually, the strongest hollow will also have absorbed enough soul to become on par wit God, too.
I had to study it in school actually, until grad, among other religions.
I agree to this.
I think you do nothing about how shit works.
Also Captain Lazy Pants said that in a hundred years shota might be as powerful as he is now, maybe even reffering to his Shikai state.
This sure is strong but far away from OMG levels of broken.
>hyorinmaru doesnt have its own history
It does. Since zampakutous are created, they come and go and their whereabouts are documented in SS libraries.
I think the reason it is exaggerated is because of its potential. Hitsugaya is the youngest captain, and the youngest to achieve bankai, and thanks to Renji we know there is like a "true bankai". So all in all, that bankai is maybe at 20-40% power right now.
I think its mentioned somewhere in the manga, that he has the potential to be the next captain commander (when he has fully matured).
And Renji now knowing the "true name" of is sword, isnt so far fatched as who else could do this? Old bad ass himself, Yamamoto. His bankai had several "levels" so to say, and it was just crazy powerful, no way could he achieve that without knowing the true name.
Did the one eyed captain and the white haired guy die already? I haven't caught up in a while..
James before meeting Yhwach
No, they're still around.
Oh yeah, Ichigo is a dual wielder now. Fuck, I actually forgot that.
Yeah, no. WHere did you get that? From the non canon bleach movie?
This i dont get. So the super star james, and tiny james was the same person?
Source. Canon source.
Hisagi isnt a real dual wielder.
I think hollows might have some form of natural limit.
They transform and at some Point the Transformation turns backwards until they become fully human again, but there is no knowledge of them being able to go past that.
The most human hollow we ever saw was Barragan.
The asauchi or base form is created, the actual forming of a true zanpaktou happens by the asauchi existing within the Shinigami power and slowly forming out of a part of the shinigami.
What is created is a blank paper, what becomes of the paper depends on the shinigami writting on it.
It seems traits can be inherited in a Family, but there was no previous Hiyorinmaru.
Or he's commenting that James must have died because Masque did.
It doesn't really count as dual wield if there's shit connecting the blades, if it did you might as well add Kensei and Hisagi and even Ikakku's shikai when it splits. The only dual wielders are Kyoraku and Ichigo.
>WHY WOULD BACH KILL HIS OWN SUBORDINATES?
>GREAT WAR PLAN, MAJESTY. TYPICAL I'M SO EVIL VILLAIN FOR THE SAKE OF IT
>KUBO JUST DOES SHIT RANDOMLY AND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S WRITING ABOUT
Of course he is. He has two weapons that which he holds in one hand each.
No Lab we are not getting in this debate again. He isn't a dual wielder.
It was said that shota could be as strong as Kyoraku was in a hundred years or so.
Only shota wankers make that to be he is the next Yama.
Considering Mask said exactly that 2 chapters ago, that would be a yes.
His original name was probably James though, before he got blessed by Bach.
He is and none of the arguments you already brought up hold their ground.
Ukitake was explicitly stated to be a dual wielder.
They called him God, but they didn't call him Yahweh, which is a proper name.
There's no meaning in discussing it any further though. I don't even own a fedora.
Kubo is a millionaire.
Triwielder transcendent megaboss confirmed
because no character ever interpreted things wrong when he didn't know all the details, especially in Bleach
That was essentially filler though. Did not happen in the manga.
That would hold more water if it wasn't fucking Yamamoto who said it.
You know, oldest shinigami around, saw Ukitake and Shunsui grow up and taught them everything they know. I think it's safe to say he knows all the details.
But it was Yamamoto who said that.
I'd expect Yamamoto to know his shit.
>Haschwalth when Ishida was announced as successor: I don't even care
>Haschwalth this chapter: YOU PIECE OF SHIT QUINCY. YOU'RE BARELY ONE OF US.
Oh, he mad. Askinn Nakk le Vaar spotted it immediately and the "poison" comment is still up in the air.
As I said - Sternritter B: The Butthurt.
No he isn't and all you say is hurr durr he holds 2 swords therefore he is a dual wielder. Hisagi's zanpaktou is completely different from Ukitake and Shunsui's zanpaktou's.
I want the D to D things up
Yeah. And they're completely different from each other. You still have no point.
>he holds 2 swords therefore he is a dual wielder
That's the definition. HOLDING TWO WEAPONS.
>B: The Butthurt.
>How can hope be real if our eyes aren't real
Kubo is running out of upgrades to handout to his main. The end will be in the next 300 chapters when Ichigo becomes the soul king.
>The Tensa Zangetsu "cameo"
>Main villain is directly based off Abrahamic God, who is nothing by itself, but when he gets followers(gets touched by them), they heal and go to him after they die. His followers even drink his blood.
I love how Abrahamic God is the main adversary of the Shinto/Buddhist themed Death Gods who seek power from within.
>The end will be in the next 300 chapters when Ichigo becomes the soul king
That's pretty much what I'm expecting. Or Ichigo dying in the end as an Ultimate Getsuga sacrifice.
Not him, but do you know the strict translation of OMG's line?
in story they don't say dual wielding is the rare part. Having twin swords is.
>wanting Renji to job
What's wrong with you?
I think that was more for hyping that battle than anything like when the ice kid explained vasto lords and arrancars and everyone took it as word of god even though he didn't know shit and was wrong about pretty much everything. Characters are wrong a lot in Bleach and taking what they say at face value is the cause of many shit arguments about the manga.
fuck I quoted wrong, that was for
The universe wants him to job.
I just prefer to be on the winning side.
>I think that was more for hyping that battle than anything like when the ice kid explained vasto lords and arrancars and everyone took it as word of god even though he didn't know shit and was wrong about pretty much everything.
He was right though.
Yama was Buddha!
Hell Verse OST goes pretty well with this whole Arc.
he was right about stuff that had nothing to do with their situation
Wow, Kubo doesn't even bother being subtle about the whole YHWH thing anymore.
So, the reason the Sternritter can use special abilities is because they have special pieces of Bach's soul. Whereas run of the mill Quincy just have reishi manipulation. But actually, how does having part of Bach's soul let the ordinary Quincy manipulate reishi? And if getting that power makes you die more quickly, how did Ishida's grandfather live so long? Actually, it seems like Quincy power is transmitted from parent to child, but originally it was just by touching him? But how does that happen if Bach never touched most of the Quincy?
Also, why is Hollow reiatsu poison to Quincies? Is it poison to Bach as well?
...Shit like this is why I still read Bleach.
Damn you, Kubo. Damn you.
This. Lots of people have two or more swords when they release. But only two shinigamis have more than one sealed sword.
I can see the ending.
Ichigo suicides and Bach absorbs him and the hollow part, thus killing Bach.
See, Ukitake has one. Only Kyoraku has two.
No. Normal Quincies also have part of Bachs soul. This is how Bach could recall his soul from all the impure Quincies and kill Ishidas mother. The stern ritters are special in that they have recieved more power from Bach than normal Quincies and they have also gotten it directly from Bach, as opposed to, from their parents.
Now the interesting thing about this is actually something we learned a long time ago. That is to say, that Ishida and Ichigo are the only two "tainted" Quincies that survived Bach trying to recall his soul from them with their powers intact. This means that these two might be immune to Bachs powers to an extent. And thus the only ones who have a chance to fight him.
This thread is dying, new one here >>100711252
Repost because there are too many damn threads.
One of my major theories is shot down.
>Yhwach transfers bodies.
Two minor ones are confirmed.
>Yhwach/YHWH is God
>Tensa is younger Yhwach
Also lends credit to my Hougyoku was based on Yhwach theory.
The Hougyoku only grants power that was originally within the reach of the holder, thus it can be said that it 'makes them complete'.
And a new one is born.
So Yhwach can grant powers, make a being wholesome and each of his soul fragments embody an aspect of him along with a power?
That sounds an awful lot like a certain other Quincy I know of.
It'll be interesting to see what happens if Ichigo's friends start dying off.
Hmm. Looking again I see you are right. I guess it was just bullshit from the get go.
Only FGT Ichigo could save us now.
oh god this
>putting his opponents in Ice coffins is just as powerful as Yamamoto's skeleton to prevent Bach from getting his power back.
if the opponent dies, the soul goes to yawach, no matter if it's on an ice coffin.
Threadn about to die, lets take over this one:
Yama also shad on him despite that power.
No this one is better
Nows with the name thing of last week I get why training with your zanpakuto an get the real bankai takes hundreds of years.
It's to get to know yor asauchi.
OK, didn't see that one.
Too bad, hoped we could turn that other one into a full fledged Bleach discussion thread.
one eyed captai appeard without the eye-patch a few chapters back and it was a shitstorm, because he even offered tea to haschwald instead of sake.
mayuri said it no so long ago.
So who is more old man genocide now, yamamoto or yawach?
now only ichigo, because ishida dun goofed when he drinked directly from aywach blood.
yes, because his sword is the perfect counter to yawach, as said above in the thread.
so in the end is whitey, Aizen creation, that kills yawach?
We can only hope.
You realise that it was implied that Yama let him go back then, that Yama pitied the young boy/men?
You realise that we know that Yama didn't even use his full powers back then.
You realise that yawach if you take those abilities from both of them Yama would still fuck him over.