AWWWW SHIEEEEET its that time of when ever again!
Horo is Love
Korbororororororororororororororororororo is Life
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I actually went back recently to watch the anime again after reading the books, despite the VA change from S1 to S2, I still enjoy it and it didn't feel repetitive or boring watching it a second time through
Why is it that when I see her I'm totally ok with the wolf/human thing but when I see touhou or some shit its like fucking furry ass idiocy?
Because emotional investment.
so touhou is shit to me because theres nothing to its atmosphere?
daily reminder of who the best character is
It's popular because the characters are mostly blank slates, but that's not always a good thing.
man I wish he was my dad
then why is it so popular if its literally nothing but furry high pitched defenseless wapanese animus?
Like I don't see how its attractive at all, its like its just eye candy like no one actually reads the subs or anything just to look at some shit
My copy of Vol.9 is coming today. Can't wait.
volume 10 came out in december
i hate to break it to you, but 9 was awful. you're better off skipping to 10.
Right on time pal.
I just ordered first 2 volumes of LN from yenpress.
How do you guys rate their translation? I can't wait until i bite onto that juicy lecture.
10 is Side colors 2
Its a cute short story book but doesn't contain any canon or progression in the story
And yes I'm a slowfag, but living in shitass central european country will do that to you.
when do they mate?
>from the book's context they get it on just before the book starts if I remember the implication correctly, holo gets morning sickness which is sign to say she's been preggers for a few weeks
That's 11 moron
whoops, I remember the story well just not when everything happens in the book number
the official translation literally isn't far off from the fan DWT translation
certain things are spelled differently, like town names and shit but they don't tell the story very differently from one another, you don't miss anything
ok so im reading the LN (up to vol 10 now) and i gotta say it's gotten really boring. i mean i can only deal with these merchant shenanigans so much but i really want to see it through to the end.
is it worth it or should I just give up?
you can see her legs folded sideways
book 10 is a dry one, it gets really good after 12 (13 is another Side Colors)
side colors like that one about the kids in the deer's woods?
her legs are folded around lawrence, her pussy is clearly over the D
and 13 was the best side stories volume, two of them were adorable as fuck.
yea kinda, little side stories that either delve into extracurricular topics, like the kids in the deer's woods or just cute little cozy stories about holo and lawrence
some stories take the main book's perspective from their eyes.
I believe one story is explicitly from Holo's view, another is strictly from Cole's view and another is even from the view of Enek, Norah's dog
by that time in the book, holo is already pregnant
will we ever get a harvest 3?
Harvest 1 and 2 non-canonically tells the story of their marriage and just before finding the hotspring
and unless you want to read about that 5 year gap in between book 16 and 17 I doubt there'll be one
>will we ever get season 3?
That feel when Kraft and Holo get married and have a daughter.
That feel when they live happily until Kraft dies of old age.
you know I've read the book in its entirety but not everyone has
spoiler that shit
it's not confirmed or denied if he dies. or if she lives and stays young.
He's not immortal
So he dies.
they never even get married in the books. the author is a shit.
yes they do, its implied at the end of book 16, although thats such a shit way to end it, its a good story
maybe he is immortal and they just don't know. he could be a time lord who locked himself in a pocket watch that korbo opens one day.
Is Holo's daughter immortal like her?
Do demi gods age?
it's implied that it's more of a baby shower than a wedding.
the author is also a shit for not describing lawrences proposal in sweet detail, and instead making korbo bite him in the neck to get him to ask. author can suck my dick for that
if you look at other mythologies like Half blooded gods/humans like hercules they're given a choice to live like a god or live like a human
Holo does age, shes not a "god" in that sense, shes a supernatural being, holo makes many references to her age and how she does and what not, she just lives exorbitantly longer than anyone else
I love Spice and Wolf!
You are now thinking of a cross-over.
they aren't always given a choice. usually they just have special powers.
and they aren't demi-gods. they're ancient alien breeding experiments.
I'm the guy you're responding to and I 100% agree
it should have been an explicit event, not some implied one with "well we finished one contract how about another "contract" hint hint wink wink
She's a Pagan deity.
pagan deities are ancient aliens.
therefor, holo is alien.
"that ancient alien mayan guy with the shit hair doo" pls go
complete with lawrence's feels described in detail, so i could fap while reading
Pagan deities are deities.
STOP THE PRESSES!
Motherfucker didn't even try and described when they first fucked.
Deities are gods.
So Holo is a god.
the book's target audience is 14 to 15 year olds
you think they're going to go over that? thats what Harvest is for!
Gods are deities but not all deities are gods
In the manga she literally SAYS she isn't a god.
unlike lewd fucks like you I fap to endearing wedding proposals and feels the groom has during the wedding. that was all i needed to be happy, and i got none of it.
So the target audience is /a/?
You know man I really get a vibe when I read it too I totally feel the feels going on and all that shit
but I don't know that feel when you fap violently to it, thats lewd
>he actually bought the divine comedy
It's fucking public property
is gunslinger girl any good? I remember watching a few episodes, it was neat, is it a good read or should I keep watching the anime (if I can find it)
>anon is eating alone in a restaraunt
>suddenly a commotion is heard
>a man is on his knee asking a woman to marry her
>she says yes
>anon stands up, knocking a plate of spaghetti over in the process
>the couple looks at him
>anon pulls out his dick and starts profusely masturbating to the scene
>he cums on the two fiances within five seconds
>puts his dick away
>proceeds to attempt picking up spaghetti
I wanted a physical copy. Digital a shit.
Great read, I heartily recommend it. Action isn't common but when it is done, it's done well, which is good for a change.
What novel does the anime leave off of?
Anime S1 is 1-2
S2 is 3+5
daily reminder that s3 never
Is it worth starting from the beginning after watching the anime?
Sure, why not?
it's not like that, I just wanted to live vicariously through korbo when lawrence popped the question.
yes, be wary though the anime skipped a plot line from the book, its book 4 but if you start over you'll hit it good, if you make the mistake like I did and started at 6 after the anime ended you'll get to book 15 and wonder "woah I don't know what the fuck is going on"
I wanted to live vicariously through korbororo when she popped the I'm pregnant to lawrence, like that gave me such a fucking rush of feels I read it over and over like 20 times and still got amazing feels
I think so but it's not necessary. As you might have noticed, other than their relationship there's little overall 'story'.
However, seeing their relationship develop again from a slightly different perspective helps- you get to see things moreso from Lawrence's point of view in the book.
The adaptation is pretty faithful so you won't miss much, but there's some stuff which is only in the novel ( it explains stuff a bit better too). I did read them after the anime and I don't regret it, but it's up to you.
Either way don't miss vol 4.
you don't mean vicariously through lawrence?
why did you say vicariously through korbo?
because I meant Korbo.
Why do we do anything?
remember, we're all little girls here, anon
what if I meant korbo too?
I mean the book really does describe her emotion well
>I want to know what it feels like to be Korbo's vagina right now
~said every /a/, trap and weabo ever
yeah, getting to see Lawrence lose his composure then sure would be fap worthy
shes already preggers here, I think this is during her morning sickness part
Is it possible to have a dick SO big, you poke the baby you were trying to make?
doesn't mean she can't still fuck him. i mean look at that godly merchant body, who wouldn't tenderly plow that all night long with a strap-on??
It'd be interesting to get a rewrite of S&W now that it's done. There's a lot of cruft and junky stuff in there, especially to do with the author clearing struggling to figure out the main plot. Shame it was a light novel, frankly.
I don't think you did too well in anatomy class anon...but I suppose anything is possible.
Whoro a Holo.
best ending is best ending
I think it'd be good if you rammed it into 3 books
like 3 big 700 page novels or some shit
I think it should have been written better, books 1-5 were cool, 6 was kinda slow but they meet cole, otherwise it was unproductive, 7 and 8 was really neat but it was more about lawrence and less about lawrence AND holo, I felt like holo was left out a lot
the books leading into the Winfield kingdom was neat, everyone learns more about everything and more is revealed about the characters personalities and thoughts
I really fucking enjoyed book 14 through 16 + epilogue, although I think 14 could have been written different to be integrated to 15 or into the end of 12
that was 8 and 9, and it was about eve, not lawrence. those two volumes need to be killed with fire.
Town of Strife, 1 and 2, which book #'s were they because I felt of all the plots in the entire story this one was the most out of place
don't knock it 'till you've tried it.
No! absolutely, just, NO! Like I'm not into that shit NO!
Theres no possible way how I could describe to you how much I don't want that at all
you don't start off with a DD, you start off with fingers or a small object. a DD was used in the story for humor. but you will cum further and harder than ever before. don't deny your prostate.
Hey everyone, I'm guy from a few threads back that was wondering about buying the light novels and stuff. I'd reckon that at least OP is the same guy.
I got the books today, except froom book 1 and 10. The cover on book 4 was indeed the original japanese cover despite bookdepository showing the 3dpd one.
Will probably get book number 1 and 10 tomorow, looking forward to it a lot!
Holo is olev
I love you Holo.
I love you.
great news you'll low them all alot
there's a part 2 to that fanfic btw
3 light novel length volumes? Nah, it needs to include the relationship bits from 1, 2, maybe 3, 4, 5, 10, and 14 on, some of the cuteness from the side stories, and an actual narrative about the trade wars going on to tie it all into a proper narrative. Get rid of the kid or use him as an errand-runner so he's not always in the way, give Lawrence an arc that lets him find his actual merchant calling while earning his goddess, and give Holo an arc that gives her old-school god-powers modern relevance. The pieces were all there, more or less, but I remember volumes 6-13 being more or less mediocre, except for the stuff with the Golden Sheep and a couple side stories. But then it was Isuna's first work, so I'm not complaining.
oh god no please hraesvelgr no!
Hope so, getting a bit discouraged by reading this thread to be honest but considering how much I loved the anime I'm sure I'll like it.
Even then having the books up on my shelf is good enough. They look so sweet.
Just ordered novels 8-10. Couldn't wait, had to overnight that shit.
When Yen Press started releasing the novels, I remember the 6 month per novel deadline and thinking that there'd be no way I would make it to novel 21. But we're halfway there!
you know you want to
Y-you wasted how much money on those and you'd be fine with not even reading them?
there's only 17
Obviously I'll read them, anon! Just not sure that I'll like them all after reading the opinions in this thread. But I'm pretty sure I will.
They didn't cost that much anyway, it's very cheap from bookdepository.co.uk.
Do you think the baby came from normal sex or strap-on sex?
you'll like them all except 8 and 9
Look, I don't want to be a partypooper or anything but getting spoiled like this kind of sucks. Spoilertags please?
then why are you on 4chan?
that picture is fanart for all you know
Because I like talking about anime and stuff that I like. Considering the majority that has any experience with S&W only watched the anime it'd kinda make sense to not spoil it for those of them who's interested in the light novels.... specially when the translations aren't even officially released yet.
It's like being on dial up, but in book release form.
Go ahead and read it, it's fine. It just gets a bit slow in the middle, but that's such not a big deal that you can't make it to the end.
it wasn't fan art, the author drew that but never continued beyond book 17
You s Britbong too? I get mine off Amazon/book depository amazon account
If you are, where're you getting book 10 from? On Amazon it says it's not released until April or some shit.
Don't mind everyone here, this thread has slightly more shit posting than last one, and thats saying something
the fan trans of 17 has been out since the end of summer... if you come on 4chan, you will get spoiled. if you think you've been spoiled, tell yourself it's troll posts, or people making shit up like they always do. it's the only effective remedy besides complete abstinence.
I've read everything, who the fuck is nagisa?
The LNs capture more of the talking and some parts that couldn't fit into the anime. You get more story than the anime can convey. It's a good read.
I know, I'm simply trying to help the spoiled. the author didn't draw it, jyuu did. and it appeared in a dengeki magazine. it's not part of the series
This PLEASE This
These threads despite however how much I use spoilers is a bane for those who haven't finished it
Nope, I'm swedish. Bookdepository has free shipping pretty much worldwide.
I already ordered book 10 and it's dispatched already, should get it tomorrow. Bookdepository has it in stock:
Yeah, I think most people finished Clannad by now.
Keyword right there. Look, is it really that much of a bother having to use spoiler tags? I think you're ruining it for a lot of people by not using them.
The ideal solution would be to finish it and THEN post in a thread.
But nobody ever does that.
>got banged by wolfspack
Finished book 10 last night. One of the better ones, I'd say.
because the books if you read it like I did take at least a month to go from 1-17
like no fucking joke I read this shit religiously
no body really wants to down a month on a book just to gain access to not being spoiled by this thread
Again, that's not really something you can expect when the offical translations only have covered 10/17 books so far, meaning only a minority of the fanbase read it all. That's usually when you're expected to be careful to not spoil it for others.
People will not use spoiler tags on 4chsn for 'old' series.
Shit's inevitable, sorry anon. I agree people should in this case because plenty of people are waiting for official trans, but it will happen.
Yeah it's listed as currently in available for me (vol 10) but I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks though Anon, cya.
>Keyword right there. Look, is it really that much of a bother having to use spoiler tags? I think you're ruining it for a lot of people by not using them.
Think of it this way
Yen Press won't finish releasing the books until late 2016
Spice and wolf's anime concluded years ago and the LN's even longer than that ago
any community that still exists by then will have dwindled even further, don't count on it
if you're on book 10 now of the official release don't count on knowing what everyone is talking about until you hit at least book 16, otherwise everything is a spoiler and you'll hate it
DWT translated all 17 books, I would give them a go if you're currently waiting
>Look mom I'm trolling! No hands!
...wouldn't you want to read the books because you enjoy them?
I know, I know
nagisa dies in episode 16 of clannad afterstory
I haven't watched this show but feel the same as the anon you quoted
>Not Trenni Silver Coins
Step it up sempai
I read them all in a month and I loved every single word I read in all of them
I can't possibly tell you how much I related to this story and how much it made me feel involved in it. Holo is by far the most independent character I've read about ever.
She has a personality, unlike other animes, books and stories I've read they just don't hit me as hard that Spice and Wolf did, it hit me like a train and then lulled me back to earth.
I could write you an essay on how much I love this story you wouldn't even believe
>Spice and wolf's anime concluded years ago and the LN's even longer than that ago
Yes, the anime finished almost five years ago now, I know. I'm not complaining about talking about that stuff. That's totally fine with me, really. I've watched it already after all. I get your point with the light novels and stuff too, but even then I still think it wouldn't be too much of a hassle for you to discuss anything spoilerrelated above book 10 while using spoilertags with the few people that already read it all. Loads of us didn't because we'd rather read the official releases.
On that note though, I will probably read the fan translations once I'm done with book 10. Don't think I'll want to wait until 2016.
he didn't have much of a choice. can't you find it in your heart to forgive him?
New to non-anime Spice and Wolf content, are you guys reading some fantranslations from Bakatsuki or are there official english releases?
there are official english releases, but its only on book 10 of 17
fans have translated the entire series, google Drunken Wolf Translations if you're lurking
There are official english released, however it's only covering 10 out of 17 books so far.
There are fan translations that are supposed to be good, drunken wolf or something, I don't know.
Official Yen Press translations are out up to volume 10 as of now, and there are reasonably decent fan-translations, just not hosted on Baka-Tsuki.
Thanks, gotta check that out.
hahaha what the fuck
Never really liked the ED much to be honest. It's not bad, but the opening is so much better.
I mean, listen to this
thats it im fucking buying the dvds
man Hashiru really gives me that middle earth feel
>not the BDs
>you will never cut yourself a slice of sunshine pie
The entire fucking thing's middle earth-ish. Which isn't really surprising.
they sure knew how to capture it well
now for something a little different that gives me a rush
there are sixteen ro's now. last time it was 11
Once I had a dream that Tolkien wrote Spice and Wolf originally. They were background characters in The Hobbit who carried on while the heroes were off on adventures. I was so excited to discover it, and Tolkien's version was immensely better... then I woke up.
It was so sad.
The ride on this carriage isn't going anywhere but onto forever, the journey is the destination
When I finished the spice and wolf anime, I had a dream that I was a knight who had also followed them on their journey around the world, my name was bjorn and I had fallen in love with Norah and lived with her in town and tended to her sheep while she opened up a store for dresses. Lawrence visited me sometime later to tell me that Holo had died and I was really sad and I woke up with tears in my eyes
norah is a qt too
Pretty sure anybody in this thread would a Nora without a second thought.
not before a lawrence
Norah is like way too innocent man like she wouldn't do that, that'd be rape and like you know like that'd make norah sad
It wouldn't be very romantic, because JRR would rather go into even more detail about the history behind the various currencies and demigods. But there would be a fun song or two, at least 200 characters, and conceptually terrifying but utterly ineffective villains.
>you are now imagining Deana in Kumerson droning on and on about the story of Tom Bombadil
I'd a holo in your lawrence while norah watches if you know what I mean
If they got the Beren and Luthien end it'd be worth it. And Korbo could be a skin changer like Beorn, Tolkien didn't give much detail on his background, just that most of his kind was gone.
and like 199 characters would all just die deaths of all sorts
it'd get made into 3 movies then fucked up the ass and milked dry by 3 prequels
and then Disney would get a hold of it and make a number 7
Well, at least we'd finally get the story of that poor traveling merchant who had to haul the Hobbit's Pipe-weed to Saruman's domain.
2/10 needs more strap-ons
I guess you can say we Sarum comin!
This is tasteless
man this is more than love, this is like ultra love or some shit
what do you call it when you love someone more than love so far that its beyond what mere love could describe?
some one make this a doujin
NO SWEET HRIMFAXI PULL THE SUN DOWN FROM THE SKY LET IT NOT HAPPEN
>you will never hold a holo the way lawrence holds his holo
you have it reversed. pic related.
Oh, you wanted an actually tasteful S&W fic posted on /a/? There's a couple on fanfiction.net, for instance https://www.fanfiction.net/u/2091338/BashZeStampeedo.
Anime Holo looks fuckin stupid
why couldn't they just draw her like this
fuck that art, you can barely see lawrence's hand.
is this better?
how about this
why are they so fucking adorable?
Because you have taste and this story is better than any anime ever
You guys just gotta understand, shes just a cartoon, she'll never be real. What you can do is get up off your sorry asses and make something of yourselves. In reality, theres a Holo out there for everyone, one whose heart screams your name and all you gotta do is follow that echo about the glass mountains and blue skies of pain. Her soul bleeds every day you're not there filling the void and she won't live without you. I know you can do it if you set your entire life to it, you can't give up, you can't cry, or pity when you're down. Nothing and no one will help you get there but you, yourself and your soul.
Take haste and flap your wings, you're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl year after year. Running over the same old ground, but what have you found? Your same old fears, and you say "I wish you were here". You can throw away your strife, your hate, your disdain and your misery, just take it and burn it to ashes. Wolves are known for their pride, their courage, their wisdom, what do you have? Ask not of what you can receive but what can you provide, what fills that void between pride, wisdom, and courage? Is there even a void? Don't be pessimistic, your key is your strength, your confidence and your endurance because nothing will keep you from finding her and unlocking that door to her heavens, and he said that all will prosper in those snowy silver fields, rejoice his blessing and he bestows it unto you.
Take haste anon, take a stride and just keep on walking, the journey is the destination and it'll take you where ever you go and I assure you, you will find happiness.
umm, >>100691082, I think >>100689318 wasn't looking for Korbo to be real
Needs more Koume Keito.
So, does anyone have any conclusive results from operation Holofarts?
what the fuck is a koume keito?
describe the operation in detail and we'll let you know
that is by far the hottest manga cover
Nice copypasta. If you're actually serious somehow, learn to be like us and enjoy the little things in life a bit more. Trust me, life needs a little levity once in a while, otherwise you start to say silly things like this as though they're profound ideas people have never heard before.
No man like you don't understand this is like cancer except the cancer got cancer and made everything 10 times worse
like if this were my little pony faggotry this would literally be fluffy ponies
That was original
pix or it didnt happen
A week or so ago, latenight /a/, /k/, and three other boards convinced a girl to consume only beer and apples for a day, and tell us what her farts smelled like. We asked /an/ and /out/ about whether or not we could give a dog/wolf/some canine a large portion of apples and make it fart (spoiler, you can't).
Not quite sure why I like that look so much.
Also have the update.
its a fucking shitpost (no pun intended) about how holo eats beans and farts everywhere profusely
http://pastebin.com/HidTgW4k i think this was it
The artist for the manga adaptation.
He (she?) also does hentai.
Norah is too innocent. I just want to protect that smile.
Call it a quirk, but all dem eyes.
Shes like one of those blossoming flowers that once shes open I bet shes twice as beautiful on the inside.
one you just wanna protect from the outside horrible world
Fuckin image size limit.
I dislike it that he draws her with such big boobs
she doesn't have those big of boobs
archive link or it didnt happen
She does have a pretty nice butt, though.
Alas, not all versions of Korbo are DFC.
You know what I got from making this thread?
Pink Floyd and Spice and Wolf just go way too great together
Can't find /a/'s link, but here's /k/'s.
Just noticed I never updated the number. Fixed.
This is so fucking stupid
Ah, I want to mofumofu that fluffy tail~
Yo, guy that wrote the holo fart fetish fanfic here.
If I had known about this whole operation my gf would have gladly done the experiment. We're both huge S&W fans and I am open about my fetish to her. She thinks it would be hilarious.
We've even done holo/lawrence cosplays.
ignore it and hope it goes away
man, shes got the best face going on and he looks concerned about something
Oh man there is like no lawrence in this thread
best character in the series, hands down
It would have been better if he afterwards had wrote it but from HER perspective this time.
yeah, i wonder what amati said that pissed her off so much.
My guess is he shittalked Lawrence and that made her mad.
He probably told her that he'd get her a nicer tail as a gift so she could throw out that flea-infested one.
you guys remember that holo was in it to force lawrence to sell that she didn't defect from lawrence the entire time right?
She was actually there because Deana forced her to go. Holo had to watch and wait for Lawrence to make a move, that was all she was there for. If Holo did something dumb, Deana would give Lawrence the pyrite, and Holo's efforts (to help him) would be wasted. Deana wanted Lawrence to make up his mind, and to give Holo a reality check (because she fell in love with a human who couldn't accept her, but Holo had a guy who loved her).
I actually chuckled
I guess that actually makes a lot of sense
Diana losing her own husband because he himself couldn't accept Diana for what she was, a bird, and she didn't want to see Holo suffer the same way she did. But Diana in the end seemed more mysterious and obfuscating on purpose to keep her pseudo power in check that she was the one in control, I don't think she actually had any real say in it beyond using the pyrite as leverage for her clause
Diana a QT
I dunno man
shit bird shit crazy
Then Why did Holo sign some paper with her Korbo signature?
To piss him off.
She talked of being upstairs waiting for him to burst in and yell at her all angry and outraged.
what did the paper say exactly? if I remember right (its hazy) she signed some paper saying that amati gave her assets of some sort
Well, Deana held all the cards. Whoever got her pyrite would end the game. Holo ended up getting the Pyrite, and then had to wait for Lawrence to figure out her clues so he would sell his pyrite. Holo didn't even realize what Lawrence was really thinking until he told her in the end. She then put two and two together and realized that Deana had set the whole thing up so Holo would get a clue herself, but that in the end Lawrence nearly gave up on her entirely. Reading/watching that final scene with those things in mind is pretty telling. Holo can't even blame Lawrence, but she still doesn't come clean, and lets him take the blame. Remember that she bit his hand, which can be seen as affectionate/possessive behavior as well as her just venting.
She was irate that he was being dumb, and didn't consider WHY he was being dumb. She wanted him to know that Amarti was ready to make a move and so he had to work fast. If she was truly wise she wouldn't have left the marriage certificate at all, but she was either panicking herself, or she completely missed the point about why Lawrence was being stupid, right up until he told her in the end. Note how she reacts when Lawrence is telling her how he saw the situation at the end.
There were two things; one was a list of Amati's assets, the other was a "signed" marriage certificate. The first was enough, but Holo just had to try to get him angry "for balance to be restored to the universe", and that made him think she was challenging him to win her back, like the "proper male" she always tells him he should be.
I legit thought she was angry because lawrence didn't tell her of yoistu being dead for over 2 days I mean really like thats some serious shit
I'd have to go watch or reread what lawrence told holo exactly at the end to see it myself, of all parts in S&W anime that part got me all riled up and excited the most
This story just makes me disgruntled at how crappy reality is.
Time to kill myself.
Post pics of the suicide.
Unrealistic fluff and platitudes. Reality can never be as perfect as the idealized stories we can think up for ourselves.
I would but I have a feeling I won't be able to.
She was mad, but she realized that she had gone overboard right away (which is revealed at the end). She just doesn't think to turn to face Lawrence, so he panics and leaves the room.
Hmm? We're discussing a silly story here. Sorry if it's a bit too silly for you to grok or something.
cole worst character
He's got stiff competition from Eve and others, though.
he bangs Elsa in the end its ok
Eve actually did something other than be captain cockblock though.
She started off that way, then became a cockblock. Cole started off a cockblock, then eventually became one of the things that brought Holo and Lawrence together.
as far as I'm concerned or cared about Eve, she should have died by her shit antics the first time they met either that or Eve should have Died when she started fucking around with Rowen Trade Guild in Kerube, and if all that fuck failed she should have died in the dungeon at the bottom of the church, no one would have ever known De Jean company wouldn't have to worry about the exploiting being exposed anymore and he would have been able to get the narwal
Like I legit don't know why with Rowen Trade Guild being so powerful couldn't just easily kill off Eve or chase her out of town on the spot
I never finished reading the LNs. I was two LNs away from the ending and then I just went into a deep depression and loneliness.
>you will never fall in love with a self-reliant woman who is also a complete fucking bro
if you read the last two you'll be so god damn happy its not even funny, its a really good ending (although written like shit, its not shit, it could have been done a far better way) and it'll make you really happy I promise
I felt the same way when Holo met Myuri's mercenaries and that her best friend Myuri had been gone for upwards of 200 years and all that was left was Myuri's claw and some ancient language written on it
speaking of ancient language does the LN ever say what is inscribed on the claw?
Nope. Nor what Amati said to piss Holo off, or if she even got honey-pickled peaches in the end.
she got a pickel in her peach if u kno wat im sayin ;)
then is it fair to say that amati never said anything to piss her off anyway? or is it implied whether directly or indirectly that he DID say something bad and pissed her off besides?
It seems clear-cut that he DID say something to piss her off. See >>100696561 and >>100696630 for a couple theories.
I thought the point was that he never needed to have since Holo wasn't actually planning to side with him anyway.
I really doubt that holo would take offense to him shit talking lawrence
maybe, but would holo really flip out entirely over her tail? maybe... but I don't think so, just based on my feeling
yea this is what I thought, Holo left because lawrence was dumb but was never going to defect from him anyway
I think I'd have left too, she was pretty damn pissed in that scene.
He apparently still said something to piss her off anyway.
is it directly implied or is this a reader's inference?
Holo was just using Amati to win Lawrence some money, but the clues she left Lawrence over the story made it seem to Lawrence that she might have changed her mind. It can be argued that she was being pretty dumb as well.
Horo the Wise Wolf is NOT dumb you subhuman scum.
So from what I gather from all this is that Amati DID say something, regardless of what it was, it offended holo to the point that holo didn't want to be with amati
like from above, diana controlled holo and lawrence because diana basically had the same situation where holo wasn't going to be accepted by amati for being a wolf and what not
Holo was never going to defect at all, it was all an elaborate ruse to win lawrence some money and in the same process make lawrence jealous as fuck besides
Holo left for amati, holo was being unwise and quite dumb of herself but she didn't want to admit it so instead she never admitted to being dumb until the end where it just so happens that it wouldn't be revealed publically that she was dumb to begin with
In the anime she flat out tells Lawrence so. In the books it's mentioned that he "evidently" said something she "couldn't abide". In the anime she also says she wanted things to end more badly for Amati, but I don't recall her saying that in the books.
Holo has made some unwise decisions which in turn can be synonymous with being "dumb" or simply uneducated about a situation
Remember, holo doesn't like solving lawrence's economics puzzles, she feels they're petty and below her despite her knowing nothing about them too begin with. She especially doesn't like using her wisdom to solve lawrence's problems unless its entertaining her where she can toy with him and set him up for her traps with metaphorical basis
Who cares, hes still a faggot
Whatever you say. No one's telling you to be smart, either, Korbofriend.
Holo wasn't paying attention to Lawrence, and jumped to conclusions. She realized in the end that all of her clues to Lawrence were easily misinterpreted, and that he'd misinterpreted her from the start. In short, she wasn't being particularly smart herself, let alone attentive.
She even flat-out tells him that she "acts" wise for his sake, but that doesn't mean she truly knows everything. That becomes abundantly clear as the series goes on. One can be wise and smart but still make poor and uninformed decisions, especially when they're being too emotional.
I think she doesn't want to lose any sort of pride of herself
instead of her saying "I don't know" which she rarely does in anything significant, she'll pass it off as petty things that she is simply too smart to solve when really she has no idea what its about but refuses to come off as clueless, she preserves her pride by being wise or in this case pretending to be wise
Lawrence envy's Holo's wisdom whether it be fake or not, Lawrence often strides to be more wise because he hates it when he misses out on things ESPECIALLY when he misses out on what holo says and what she really means as a trap, he hates her traps, often times he'll play it off as "I give up" or "I'll pretend to be dumb to see where this goes", However, holo can't or has a hard time picking up on subtle sarcasm or smugness, so she literally falls for the bait of "I took your sarcasm seriously" which has literal implications from what sarcasm is supposed to be, causing confusion in holo, she HATES being confused especially out in the open, it gives lawrence the perfect opportunity to see this and it gives him the power to turn around and basically call her a fool for such a simple notion
This usually leads to some sort of fight, heated argument or what ever where Holo will attempt to retract to her position of wisdom and either toy with his emotions or simply not talk to him at all with her mischievous, greedy smile
It's not that simple, but yes, in general she does act that way. For instance, she got him into trouble in volumes 1 and 2, and didn't realize why he was being stupid in volume 3. I don't even think she saw the solution to the problem in volume 4 herself. And in volume 5.. well, she went off the rails entirely.
Basically, she's written as a person, not a perfect waifu (though that doesn't stop people from pretending otherwise). Emotions can mess up her logic and pride, and they do. Repeatedly. She's frustrated by that, and isn't shy about telling Lawrence so (or pinning the blame on him even when it's not warranted).
>its not that simple
I know its not, I only have 2000 characters and I think my general description of the average holo/lawrence conversation captured them quite well
Who says I don't want my waifu to have a full range of realistic traits?
>For instance, she got him into trouble in volumes 1 and 2, and didn't realize why he was being stupid in volume 3.
I think they were just getting to know each other, anything that came from these events was all informational towards the both of them
>She's frustrated by that, and isn't shy about telling Lawrence so (or pinning the blame on him even when it's not warranted).
I don't think shes not shy about telling lawrence her feelings
I think she has a hard time describing her feelings because she (up until like volume 12 or 14) was covering them up because she didn't want to get too attached to lawrence because they would split once they hit yoitsu even though it was quite evident that she had already fallen in love with him a while ago, she didn't want to say it or acknowledge it
thats why in book 14 she finally says that she loves him, 9 books after lawrence did in 5, I personally think she fell in love entirely and finally accepted it in the Winfield kingdom when she began to understand the Shepard deity's position that time is a curse on everyone and theres nothing she can do about it to save lawrence or curve her pain
she held these masquerade feeling so long, she didn't want to be hurt and yet she didn't want to be lonely, she didn't want to fall in love and yet she did love him, pressure finally boiled over and she accepted it for what it was
Volumes 1-5 will be waiting at my door tomorrow morning. This is like Christmas. As well as the first time I'll have read a book in like 3 years.
get cozy anon, grab some tissues (you might need them, I dunno)
one last holo bump before bed, hopefully its still here in the morning
I don't have anything to say, but I think that this is a very good post and that you should be acknowledged for it.
I don't see many people say that and I'm glad it perked someones interest so much that they posted about how good of a post I made
thank you anon, have my favorite picture of holo
Aww shit, Horo thread.
Slutro a slut
Now you show up.
You missed out.
Thanks OP for always making these threads
Wait, there are people who havent got their volume 10 yet? I got mine in early January from Bookdepository and I live in a third world country for christ's sake!
Sorry I work at a job now that I literally like so much I stay five or so hours after I have to. I'm salaried too.
What/where do you work?