Just finished this SHAFT masterpiece. Now I understand why everyone loves Shinobu so much. Are there other girls like her in the animeverse? I doubt it.
She's my least favorite Monogatari girl and I don't even know why.
SHAFT really likes straight lines.
But she's a cute loli that likes donuts, what's not to love?
But you haven't even gotten to the good part yet, as far as character is concerned.
Summoning Kinomod who is Redwood's buttbody
Just wait for Kizu.
I just want to pat her head.
What is this Redwood you talk about? A new show that I missed?
A redwood is what you get from watching Shinobu bath scenes.
The mod that deletes on topic discussion about lolis/if it contains loli/if it shows nipples
>waiting for Kizu
I'm afraid you need to be immortal to finally see it.
I hope you're excited about seeing Shinobu in almost every arc now.
As long as there are no nipples it's fine, right?
Shinobu is too pure too have nipples.
I think the new PC term for people of color is negro.
Exactly! And she's voiced by Sakamoto Maaya, to boot. I should like her, right?
I really don't get it but I can't bring myself to give a single fuck about her and it pisses me off she takes up screentime that could've gone to the girls I like more.
TECHNICALLY nudity is allowed, if it's from a source material that's non-h. But mr.oversteppingbounds likes to ignore the rules. Because fuck the rules if you have power right?
Nah, you didn't. Did you? Announcing your report is a no-no. You just want to watch the world burn, right?
That's not only technically, moot literally said that once when /q/ was still around.
Look closely at where her nipples should be and you'll see something.
Shinobu is really great, the best girl among a cast full of good girls.
She's going to win the Monogatari. It's fate, if you know what I mean.
I...is...is that a nipple?
Looks more like some sort of artifact.
Shit, that was the wrong screenshot.
Feels like one of these images where you concentrate on one point and then quickly look away or something.
>She's going to win the Monogatari. It's fate, if you know what I mean.
Well duh, she'll outlive all the other girls ten to one.
Just SHAFT QUALITY. The animator's hand shook while drawing it.
Nah, she wouldn't have only one, or? It's a drop of water, or some foam.
Just an animator having a giggle.Tee hee.
>inb4 >SHAFT >animators
Nope they're banning over censored images too. You can't even post the archive link to the thread anymore or you get autobanned
WHOA WHOA you guys haven't heard? Loli isn't allowed on /a/ anymore. I would delete this thread if I were you.
A blonde towelhead, now I've seen everything.
That's the first time I hear about that. Nobody would ban loli on /a/, right? That would be stupid. What's next, deleting a Yotsuba thread?
That one is my favorite shot. That area just above the thighs and below the belly button. Hnnngh.
What episode is this?
>delete this thread
Sound like you're the uninformed one here, buddy.
>loli isn't allowed
>implying this isn't allowed
screens taken directly from a Non-H anime. This is allowed entirely.
>Loli isn't allowed on /a/ anymore.
That "anymore" pretty much reaches back to the time when /a/ split away from /b/, doesn't it?
>You can't even post the archive link to the thread anymore or you get autobanned
Now that's some weird shit going on. I don't feel safe anymore. Hold me, /a/. Hold me tight.
well about that
>What episode is this?
Fuck you stop this shit, go back to /co/
loli is not loli pornography but I'm sure you're just trolling or one of the IRC trying to stir shit up
Just becuase he was banned, doesn't mean it's not actually allowed.
Sounds like you're trolling to me.. I was in a handful of loli threads from the past week alone.
I don't see any problem with that image, it's perfectly censored. If someone deletes it, it's obviously a fag and deserves stripped of mod powers.
>WHOAH WOAH you guys haven't heard? Anime isn't allowed in non-anime boards anymore
This is what you sound like
That collarbone. Heavenly.
Tell that to the mod deleting any thread that has that screenshot from Crime Edge
Sorry. Failed attempt at humor. Loli threads have always been part of /a/ and deleting your threads was also something you used to be able to do.
But what you just said is actually an extremely hot topic.
I hope nobody gets pissed off when I say I want to bath with Shinobu and wash her back. There are no nipples on her back so it's not pedo, right?
>Those shoulder bones
You make Shinobu blush like a slut, shame on you.
What kind of monster would be attracted to a young girl's nipples? There's literally no appeal. Only a truly sick person would find something sexual about that, or find it as decent grounds to ban someone.
This thread is making me realize how small my Shinobu folder is. It's a sin.
If this thread goes down this board should go into rebellion mode and spam NSFW loli.
Ignore the retard in here. He's trolling or is LRD.
Calm down. Everything's gonna be fine.
You should have a shinobu hard drive
>Only a truly sick person would find something sexual about that, or find it as decent grounds to ban someone.
See, that's what I think as well. There's no reason to feel sexually aroused by a pre-pubescent girl or boy. By the way, are boy's chest bannable as well? Would only be fair, as a girl's chest differs in practically no way from a boy's.
You don't seem to understand, they're trying to rile up the entire board. Not that the mods and janitors actions are really helping to calm everyone.
>He's trolling or is LRD.
Those aren't mutually exclusive.
Shinobu is my fourth favorite. I used to hate her but after reading Kizu I love her.
>You don't seem to understand, they're trying to rile up the entire board.
At least I don't try to rile anyone up. I just like the art. The gentle, caressing strokes with which some experienced man draw her body, the tender lines, her delicate frame.
Nothing sexual here.
It's true, only a sexually deviant pedophile could get aroused by Shinobu's smooth flat chest, or her perfect round face and plump butt.
Who do you like more anon?
Correct. I admire her form, everything about her body, but only in a non-sexual way. Only a sexual deviant would find that perverted.
You're right, but the latter is a special kind of troll.
Exhibit A, Your Honor.
captcha: amoreW you
Stop stirring shit up.
I managed to figure out that LRD is obviously a tripfag, probably "lolis R dead", right? Is he pro or contra loli, and why would he be in this thread? Lolis are very much alive here. Well ... technically Shinobu is dead, I guess, but you get the picture.
How is this filthy pedophile thread still here?
Shinobu thread?! Shinobu thread?!
God it's been so long. Dump images? You guys might have images that I still don't have yet.
It's actually just one certain mod.
Because uber shit taste.
So can I post this picture?
>Are there other girls like her in the animeverse? I doubt it.
You mean haughty blonde loli vampires? because there are a ton of those.
Fu, fu, fu. There are no pedos here. Just people who appreciate the art of a drawn character. So unless SHAFT uses real life references with great detail, no children were harmed in the production of these images.
Hurt feelings of social justice warriors might be something different, though.
To whom it may concern,
Based Maaya Sakamoto
As SHAFTgirls don't have nipples, they are perfectly fine to post and fantasize about to your heart's content.
>Fu, fu, fu.
I'm platinum mad, anon.
pics or it didn't happen
No, really, feel free to contribute with similar artwork, but make sure it's non-h anime and the evil nipples are somewhat obscured. We doN't want to make a mod cry.
Never have a best girl been so obvious and dominated over the other girls so easily.
>being this new to anime
There's MH's Arsene.
I'm sorry, I guess my blood is somewhere else than my head. You know, in some lower regions of my body. Due to posting all those adorable pictures of this little loli vampire. I mean I'm sitting here at my desk and all the blood drops to my feet. I have such a weak blood pressure.
>missing the point this much
Is your dad a pedohphile if your mom suddenly turned into a 500 year old vampire with an 8 year old body?
Are you an italian, /a/?
Those are the kind of profound questions that philosophers debate for centuries.
No, I'm Casanova.
ITT: Neo-/a/ morality warriors enforce their thought laws.
Haven't seen that episode, what was this all about? Did she swoon over some gigolo?
Araragi kisses her.
I never got this
Ararararararararararararagi is quite well hung apparently.
Yes. The biggest one of them all.
Italians are known for having some of the largest sausages in the world, often sold by themselves without garnish or other sides in restaurants.
woah, now there's something to self-insert.
Ah, so he is Salami-san.
Italians tend to kiss people or something like that.
No thought laws here, anon. Just free spirits and free love and other free stuff.
In this case, he even kissed a loli. Look how she struggles at first but then surrenders, she obviously wants it and enjoys it. I bet it was one of those very wet kisses, she probably sucked on his tongue as if it was a thumb.
She's a murderer isn't she? I've seen those eyes before. It's the one that would stab you 34 more times after she makes a smile on your throat.
I want that bath.
That's one of the wisest quotes I've ever seen out of animu.
>Jodi Arias - The Anime
I'd watch that.
That bath is two or three times bigger than my apartment, if not more.
Look at those feet. 500 year old feet. Nothing even remote loli here.
Bitch please she isn't even best loli.
Now, now, I don't want to be accused of being age-discriminatory. These social justice warriors are so confusing sometimes.
Redwood bait, enjoy your incoming ban
Shinobu really comes into her own character I think during the alternate universe arc and made me respect her more than vampire fanservice
I want to say you're wrong but I love snail, too as much as I love shinobu.
Kiss-shot > Shinobu
Mayoi's ending secured her place at the top for me. Shinobu has taken second. Karen comes in for 3rd.
Are there even nudes of her? At least post that fingersucking gif, please.
That arc was where the point in the anime where Shaft hit you over the head with Shinobu's character. I though came through pretty well since Nise, but not in the obvious way it did then.
It's shinobu's fault, all girls are really great.
Is this something new? I've been gone for a month or so.
Why would you want to sexuallise mayoi? Only lolicon would.
On a scale of 1 to 10, how proud are you that you weren't able to protect her smile?
I love all Monogataris (well except Snake, who is merely okay). I'd put Hachikuji third and Shinobu fourth. They're both adorable and fantastic characters but the competition in this series is fierce.
haha, I have that gif and a ton of lewd...but I'm not posting any because best girl is bat
Let me guess, monkey and bee on your first and second?
Agreed. But I like Hachikuji because she ironically has the most adult eye-to-eye relationship with Araragi. Underneath the wordplay and banter, there's more mutual respect than any other character in the series.
Man, now I want a bath and a complimentary loli so bad.
And finger sucking! But >>100678472 won't post it, dammit.
She's 23 and is one of the few character who don't have some obvious major personality flaw. It makes sense that she has the healthiest relationship with Araragi.
Nope, neither. I'm a Crabfag. Cat is my second (I wasn't too keen on her at first but after Kizu and Neko I really warmed up to her). Then Snail, then Bat, then Bee and Phoenix tied, then Monkey. It's all relative though, because even though I Money pretty low I still love her character. Then there's Snake, who is easily my least favorite. I don't exactly dislike her or anything, she's merely okay. She's definitely far below the others though.
Can this be wrong? Surely not.
Google search not that hard.
This oppai monster has some sneaky fingers.
Took me 10 seconds to google it
Crab and Cat a relative shit, but I can let that slide in light of the fact that we agree there are no bad girls.
>Cat on second
Well I assumed based on what most a wants if it isn't snail or bat. Glad thoguh that there are still people who has her on not-bottom or not-second-bottom. I personally like cat. I'm okay with crab.
Yeah I'll just agree to disagree on that first part. There isn't a single bad girl in this series as far as I'm concerned. Hell, I can't think of a single character that I dislike.
I still can't pick a favorite girl
Fuck I can't even pick a favorite boy, or a favorite oddity
why are these characters so great?
>tfw can't access grieving panda gallery since too low mod power
Never heard of Green Ketchup [Zhen Lu]. Is it banned or something?
There's always snake. She's objectively okay but she gets dislikable.
Because nisio, he makes a girl for everyone.
>tfw you're apparently the only phoenixfag on /a/
bat and snail are good though
Leaving aside that statement that's pretty controversial (since there should be nothing wrong with posting anime pictures in other boards as long as you're not trying to derail anything, yet people call you out on it like you're posting CP), posting anime characters that happen to be lolis on /a/ shouldn't make you afraid of getting banned.
Always remember, loli != loli porn.
I don't understand the hate she gets. She seemed generic at the beginning of Bake but by the end it was clear she had a lot more going on than it seemed. And after watching Neko and reading Kizu I couldn't help but love her. And the whole Tsubasa Tiger arc? I don't see how people can dislike her after all that.
Phoenix is my second favorite
snail is _____
She just got a shit ton of screentime all in a row dealing with pretty much the exact same issues and her banter skill is relatively low. This bred a general attitude of 'when the fuck is cat going to get off screen so something interesting can happen?'
At least that's my take on it.
She had the best op for Nise
I listen to the full version regularly just for the vocals
Vamp (not bat, fuck you people that say bat) > Snail > Bee = Cat > Snake > Phoenix = Monkey = Crab
I hated crab until Koimonogatari, the same way I hated cat during most of Bake.
Vamp is Koyomi though
Both are vamps.
Yes but it's a bit dumb to call two characters the same thing
Koyomi is rapist.
Arararararararagi is Arararararararagi
>implying I don't mean both when I say it.
>implying people even call him that.
wouldn't you be one too?
I didn't hate her during Bake, but she got pretty annoying on the few scenes she had on everything until Koi.
Not that I need excuses to call your taste shit, though.
No one calls Shinobu Vamp either
Not for Peace Peace.
I'm correcting people because calling her bat is wrong.
Why is it wrong
Vampires in Monogatari don't have anything to do with bats.
Kanbaru didn't actually have anything to do with monkeys get that's what she gets called.
Snail's death was the first time I really felt emotional in this show.
I don't hate Cat. I love Cat. I said earlier she's my second favorite.
I finished this too just a few days ago. I think it's my favorite thing SHAFT has done. I really liked the OP's too, and all the characters are really well done.
I was not ready for those feels when Hachikuji passes on. ;_;
Also Kaiki is best character. RIP.
That's because the arc is called that way. There's no mention of bats anywhere in Kizu or afterwards.
Will Tsukihi be important ever?
Are the LN's translated, and are they any good?
Kizu's translation is pretty good.
Can't say anything about the others, I've yet to read them.
you must really hate monogatari to post that in a thread almost 200 posts long
But Koyomi is called Vamp in Kizu so Vamp is Koyomi
You can't have two characters with the same name anon
No one calls the fire sisters Araragi, for instance
A few of them are, and if you liked the anime you'll like them
If Araragi has any say in it, no. He doesn't want to burden his family
Somehow my imouto never said this to me.
Snake got good when she went full yandere psycho. Before that I gave no fucks about her
we can only hope
She's adorable and all, but I still prefer molluscs and crustaceans.
You're just going in circles. Regardless of anything else, calling Shinobu Bat is wrong.
Thinking about watching the the series.
but what order should i watch the monogatari series in? is there any connection between them?
New season when? And when is the movie supposed to come out?
Snake's always been good, and she's always been hated because >HanaKana and out of context LN spoilers.
She can't say it if you put duct tape over her mouth.
Snail a qt and her banter with Muraragi was just amazing.
Bake, Nise, Neko Kuro, Second Season
Read Kizu in between
Kizu comes before Bake, so it's impossible to watch them in a proper order for a few years to come.
>he still believes in kizumonogatari
Son, just give up hope now like we all did.
How the fuck do the Araragis have such a nice bathroom anyway
Also do we see their parents
>Kizu comes before Bake
But it's supposed to be watched afterwards.
>watching chronologically instead of release date
Guess you're delaying Hana 'till the third season is over?
Hana this year
Third Season when Nisio releases last book probably
The mom appears briefly.
>That large loli belly
Doesn't Arararagi mom show up in Neko?
Why is Tsukihi so happy
>Kisshot literally gives herself huge bat wings at a part in Kizu
>Third Season when Nisio releases last book probably
So never too.
Remind me which episode and when and I'll rewatch, I fell asleep during Neko
She's a 12 year old who gets to go with her sister beating up bullies and giving love advice
Wouldn't you be happy too
Neko Shiro 4 iirc
>i broke an antenna!
>How the fuck do the Araragis have such a nice bathroom anyway.
It isn't cannon. Shaft fucks with the environment depending on the mood/narrator. During that scene they were going for a surreal feeling, so they had a giant magic bathroom.
I have nothing against Shinobu, but Kabuki and Oni (except the last episode) were quite shitty.
I bit your tongue.
That's not Kaikikiki-san.
Kaiki deserved it
He deserved a statue.
Wait. Is Hana the next season/series, or is it a movie? And it takes place after whatever will be covered in Season 3? Were the novels released out of chronological order (outside of Neko Kuro and Kizu, which I already know were released as prequels) or is this Shaft just being retarded about what to adapt?
Objectively the cutest and best girl.
Wrong picture anon
>Is Hana the next series
>Is SHAFT being retarded
Novels were out of order
Bake -> Kizu (first chronologically) -> Nise -> Neko Kuro -> Neko Shiro -> Kabuki -> Hana (last chronologically, at least for now iirc) -> Otori -> Oni -> Koi -> then others
I like her best when she's being a bitch
Hana will be OVA, probably 4 episodes like Neko Kuro was
Third Season if there is one will be a bunch of books just like Second Season
Best arc of the second season?
Hitagi End > Nadeko Medusa > rest
Can't disagree with you
Just rewatch it all, it's like an hour.
Why is Ougi so ugly?
>you will never have a vampire loli always watching your back and helping you fight the supernatural
Murderers usually are.
Hitagi End > Shinobu Time > Nadeko Medusa > Tsubasa Tiger > Anything else I'm forgetting
It's the souless eyes
>mfw watching all 10 hours
Meme got all the handsome genes. Also she's a monster. Also I think she's kinda cute.
What was left anyways?
I know the last two are Owarimonogatari and Zokuowarimonogatari, none of which have been released as books, at least last time I checked.
>Forgetting Mayoi Jiangshi
It's like you hate time travel and Shinobu.
Owari was released in October, at least the first volume was
There's also Tsuki and Koyomi
Koyomimonogatari (short stories)
Owari volume 1-3
>3 volumes of Owari
So, last season by 2020 I see.
>if there is one
I thought Shaft already said they would adapt them all? Plus it's not like the series isn't popular. Unless Shaft decides they hate money I would think a season 3 is inevitable.
end of Shinobu arc made us all cry even without subs so that was objectively the best scene
first volume came out last october and the second will be released this month if I'm not wrong.
They could do it some other way instead of a "Third Season" though
Like give a full season for Owari and Tsuki be released as an OVA
Then later have the finishing book as a movie or something
I didn't like Karen cutting her hair.
Shaft does hate money. What they don't realise is that wasting all their money on adapting shit only makes them more money.
Welcome to Nisio
You're clearly beside yourself
Oh, I see. I thought you were suggesting they'd drop the series. Honestly I think I'd prefer if they avoided combining books into a single season again, as a lot of stuff was cut from Season 2.
I thought all the haircuts were good except Crab's.
Is this a bathing animu?
Best sudden plot twist ever.
Monkey doesn't have that disgusting long hairstyle in Hanamonogatari, does she?
Nah, Crabs hairstyle looked really cute in Koi.
What I should have said was that I thought all the cuts were improvements except Crab's. It was still good.
Crab's hair in Tsubasa Tiger was pretty bad though.
IMO Karen was better with long hair.
>Hitagi looks best with long hair
>She cuts it.
>Tsubasa looks best with braids
>She cuts them.
>Karen looks best with her ponytail
>She cuts it.
>Suruga looks best with short hair
>She grows it out.
>Tsukihi looks best with short hair
>She grows it out.
Shinobu will be bald before the series is over.
You just wait til Ep 8
Why this hasn't been mentioned yet ITT
>>Tsubasa looks best with braids
Nice try, bad opinions guy.
Feels good to have the same shitty taste as Nisio
Tsubasa is the only one who looks better now.
where the fuck is the bd release of nise on nyaa?
It looked too "boyish", almost like Kanbaru's during Bake. Good that her hairstyle changed after Tsubasa Tiger.
>Tsubasa looks best with braids
But you're wrong. Braids are disgusting on anything other than lolis.
Cat getting her hair cut and losing the glasses (and the subsequent tiger hair) is the only appearance change out of all Monogatari that I can get behind.
good god, this fucking scene. Based.
I'll admit that out of all of the hair changes Hanekawa's looks the best. I still miss the long hair and especially the glasses, though.
Shaft got better at drawing human faces in their TV releases.
actually nevermind ill just go bakbt
This is truth.
I look forward to celebrating the anniversary of this scene with you next month /a/niki
animebytes or bakabt
You can debate the others all you want but on Hitagi long hair is best.
Probably raising his incestbaby.
Short hair looks great on her too, but long was just amazing.
Ponytail best long hair
Why aren't you watching Ep12 of Bake
I don't really know why but Shinobu got a lot less likable for me in the most recent season.
I'm still fascinated by what she has to say but somehow she feels a lot less powerful and world-wise. I was kind of hoping that we'd get to see her do actually evil things in Shinobu Time. Will we ever see her purposefully act out, or are all of Kisshot's stories being misunderstood and lonely?
Rewatched it dozen of times already.
because i've already cried and felt miserable today, anon.
>10 more days until Shinobu Mail
Hold on to your butts /a/. The OTP is soon.
I don't think its possible for her to not look great.
It comes with the territory of being best girl.
whats going on with this torrent? I'm doing something wrong, aren't I?
Agreed. Kisshot x First servant OTP!
>the massive shitstorm on /a/ when Shinobu gets killed off
It's going to happen eventually. The tears will be delicious.
You can completely, totally, blame every single bit of that on SHAFT.
It's like Shinbo decided just said "FUCK IT, SHE'S ONLY THE MOST POPULAR CHARACTER IN THE SERIES, LET'S NOT EVEN TRY NOT TO FUCK UP EVERY SINGLE SCENE SHE APPEARS IN."
It's a bit too obvious that she'll die. Not sure what Nisio is planning.
I believe you anon kun
Will Kizu help this?
If First Servant was even remotely relevant Kissshot wouldn't have revived a complete stranger like Araragi.
Shinobu Mail is about the job Araragi does for Gaen. If she dies it's not unless it has a time skip at the end like Shinobu Time.
I'd recommend reading Kizu instead. There's not really any way the adaptation can surpass the original, but it will be worth watching.
S2 just made it really fucking obvious that you need to take everything in the anime with a pound of salt, because SHAFT isn't above destroying context, cutting characterization, and completely changing scenes because of their own poor planning.
Karen is hot.
Owari volume 2.
I fucked up my reply somewhat. I don't expect it to happen in Shinobu Mail, but I'm confident it will happen eventually. Which sucks because she's one of my favorites.
One of the last 3 volumes of the series comes out on the 31st. The story for it is called Shinobu Mail. All signs suggest that it's also a really crucial point in the series.
Google isn't turning anything up as far as announcements go, where's the sauce on dis?
Posting wikipedia assuming you can't into moon. Just follow the citation if you can.
Non sono nato o cresciuto ma sono cittadino da 6 anni.
A gentleman and a scholar.
I like Hitagi. She's very good at staying offscreen.
Why is she so perfect.
Nishio is Japanese Martin.
He'll kill any character you love.
Then you're in a superposition of having taste and not having taste.
She's a blonde loli vampire that's actually written well.
I love this gif. She looks so bro; even more-so than kanbaru.
Everyone leave? Shinobu over?
There are at least 2 other gatari threads going on right now.
It pains me to know I will never have a blonde loli vampire living in my shadow.
Her braids are fine, and she only needs a new style of glasses. Hell Koyomi still keeps the braids in his room even now.
The motherly air she had was diminished by losing her long hair, but still going strong. And it'll be even sexier with stripes.
You and me both
I liked her before she started talking. Really not a fan of the whole omnipotent, arrogant vampire archetype.
It's a really flimsy facade. Watching it break down easily in front of Araragi only adds to her charm.
She's supposed to be weaker and more childish. Oshino's "apparitions exist because people believe in them" speech in Neko explains that.
That pic made me cum instantaneously from a flaccid penis
What is that the cover of?
No! Bad anon!
Braids are bad and you should feel bad.`
Which means we're short of our quota
I'm going to be sick.
Shinobu Heroine Book
I was actually wondering what was up with that image size, but I don't think it's streaming.
Unless there's some player that lets you take screenshots and save it to your computer, which would be pretty advanced for streaming standards as far as I know.
stop sperging out mang
It's a pretty nice book. It's got some nice Shinobu pictures, I can do a small image dump the book is about 10 pages.
I think its longer than that, this gallery is 10 pages and it says incomplete.
I wish that link said how many pages there were
Oh it's incomplete? I have the book downloaded and it's only 10 pages.. I was considering buying a physical copy too. Oh and thanks for posting the link.
I have the book and it's actually 48 pages.
Yeah me too, for some reason I really want to run my hand over a physical copy of the cover to feel the golden font.
Awesome, buying right now
Okay, me too.
Kissshot was never "evil." I'm not sure where you got that image of her. She was extremely powerful, and extremely free-spirited, but not malignant. She ate humans out of necessity, her seeing humans as "food" is not a trait of evil but a simple matter of course. You do not weep for the death of something that lives a fraction of your lifetime, that serves as your one food source, that you have watched build and destroy entire civilizations in (to your eyes) very short time. Most people don't even care about those that aren't personal friends or family of theirs.
Honestly, Kissshot had a pretty playful personality herself. I honestly doubt that the childishness entirely comes from Araragi's perception of her.
Pretty sure that a picture of Nadeko Snake
Honestly, that's something that anyone who hasn't read Kizu misses out on. Shinobu didn't just turn "nice" because of being transformed and/or the way Araragi sees her. She pretends it is, just like she pretends she turns evil if she turns vampire, and just like she pretends that was the reason she destroyed the world. Kissshot was/is a total bro even as a vampire.
I didn't mean the literal image, silly anon.
How many are written badly? This may be me not being exposed to enough of them but I think they're generally well written
God damn i want more Kissshot but doubt we will get that.
At least i hope next LN has teen form.
I've never seen her the same way after seeing that one frame in bakemonogatari ep15 bd where her vagina was covered up with a band aid
Trips don't lie
Quiet and cute Bakemonogatari Shinobu > Lewd Nisemonogatari Shinobu
I didn't know taste could get this bad
>bakemonogatari ep15 bd where her vagina was covered up with a band aid
I want Shinobu to shit talk me while she masturbates
Well, there are others that are written okay but Shinobu is written very well. If I had to give some concrete reason about how well she is written, I can't really think of her in terms of an archetype like I can for most other characters. For example, Shinobu doesn't do things because she's the wise old character who likes helping out the younguns, or because of one single plot device. Shinobu has layered motivations, where she honestly wants to help out Araragi because she cares for him, but then she is super emotionally dependent on him but is trying to reconcile it with her pride as one of the most powerful kaii ever. Then there is the whole bit where what she would probably like the most is for her and Araragi to become full vampires and go off together, but she knows Araragi doesn't want to leave his friends and family behind and isn't trying to force the issue. I could go on, but I think you've probably gotten the point by now.
>Suffering and seething with anger. > Lively and playful, if not completely content.
Well yeah I got the point, because I never questioned that Shinobu was well written, I was questioning that other blonde loli vampires weren't, they're usually among the best characters in their series
It's not that they're written badly, but more that Shinobu's written exceedingly well. The whole mind-meld symbiosis thing makes for an incredibly interesting relationship between her and Araragi, especially because Nisio didn't go overboard with it and take all individuality from the characters, meaning they can still interact and develop a real relationship.
Fuck when is Dance in the vampire bund going to continue again?
Exactly the sort of example I was thinking of, and didn't they say this year or is that just me repeating some anon?
I don't think she really cares to become a vampire again at this point. Araragi has had a profound enough effect on her that she probably caught his case of the moralfaggotry and won't enjoy going back to eating people.
I think it's kind of similar to how Mayoi didn't want to go back to making people lose their way, even if it meant passing on. Hopefully Shinobu's fate won't be the same way though.
Well Shinobu still sucks blood from time to time, even if it is Arararagi's usually, so I don't see why she would
Most people who like shinobu are attached because they read kizu. You just like her because shes a loli
What about this one?
Well, let's look at Eva from Negima as an example:
She fits pretty squarely into the harsh teacher archetype, with her personality for flavor and a background with her student's father. Yes, she is interesting, but I can still predict her actions based on her archetype.
If some of the summaries I've read are correct, Shinobu's preferred outcome is both her and Araragi becoming vampires together, but being together with Araragi is the most important thing.
That's out of necessity, isn't it? And sucking blood from Araragi is kind of the best of both worlds for her.
>She gets to drink her husbando's blood on a regular basis
>She doesn't have to kill people to feed herself, because doing so would make her husbando sad
>She gets to straddle his lap and snuggle against his musclebound chest every time she feeds from him
You need to remember that vampires eat people weekly. An unstoppable raging hunger that Araragi was about to kill himself over in order to stop himself
Kizu is important for fully appreciating her character, but Shinobu has a very likeable personality even if you don't get deep into her story.
That's really the kind of series Monogatari is. It manages to both be enjoyable at face value AND have a solid plot for those willing to do a little digging.
I'm honestly only started to really like her in a second season, in Nise she was too much of a "cool" character aka never dropped her arrogant attitude and show some of her weak side, which makes her more human/lively.
Is this some tu,blr influence?
Should of been last year but maybe will be this year.
Don't know of it, like I said underexposure perhaps since off the top of my head I can only really name Shinobu, Rachel, Mina and Eva, might be a couple others but they're not coming to mind
I woudn't say predictable is quite the same as badly written myself, she reads believably enough, she has an interesting personality and she had some neat backstory, what else does she need to be at least decently well written? Is she as developed as someone like Shinobu? No, but she's not exactly bad either.
Necessity or not I'm pretty sure just sucking blood is the only real "job" vampires have so the darkness should leave her alone
Aside from Kizu being animated its not going to happen unless Araragi somehow gets killed or changes his morals and allows Shinobu to return them both into vampires.
if shinobu was a beer she'd be shinobrew
Yes. Which is why she isn't forcing the issue. She's already spent enough time with a thrall who hated being a vampire and doesn't want to put Araragi through that or go through it again herself. But if somehow Araragi could grow to be okay with it, as he ages and watches everyone except Shinobu wither and leave him behind, she would very much like for them to be vampires again. Well, that last sentence is just based on my analysis of her character.
I'll agree that predictable does not mean badly written, but predictable based on an archetype starts to detract from the quality of a character.
ooooh I see, nvm
I'd have to reread Negima to be sure, but I could have sworn that there were a couple moments where she goes and does things outside of the harsh teacher archetype, specifically thing relating to Nagi come to mind, irregardless, I'm mostly looking to go for "not bad" as opposed to "amazing" seeing as she wasn't even really one of the main characters so it's hard for her to get too much time devoted to her quality of character when you have that many others to focus on
If shinobu was a beer I might start drinking beer.
I already acknowledged that she had some fairly significant personality of her own that goes outside her archetype, but it's still nowhere near as deep as Shinobu's myriad of motivations. Also, I'd say that Eva was a pretty central character, considering that she was a key figure in most of the major events and is currently the only holdover in the sequel.
If you had read Kizu you would have gotten to see a bit of her weaker side. I loved her portrayal in Nise though, she had a very otherworldly charm throughout the season. I think that was intended by Nisio, as Shinobu as a character is meant to start as the very personification of "living legend" and through the series develop to becoming "human".
This is less significant depending on the strength of the vampire though. Shinobu says she went for like an entire year without eating humans when she lived as a god.
What's with this disgusting circlejerk here?
Well perhaps, maybe she is central enough to be considered a main, regardless, Negima isn't Monogatari with it's focus on characters and no fighting, so with the time she got she wasn't going to be more developed than Shinobu.
You'll notice however again, that that was never my contention, my contention was originally with the post "she's a vampire loli who's well written" and wanting to know what vampire lolis were badly written as a result, since the ones I'm familiar with are decently/well written even if not quite the same as the Monogatari characters. I'm not asking about if Shinobu's better, yet it keeps coming back to this
Doesn't matter. Araragi was Shinobu's full subordinate and got hungry before the end of spring break. If he gets hungry, its all over.
try pressing print screen on your keyboard, then going to paint and selecting the big dotted square tool then hitting paste on the blank white part of the picture.
Eh, I saw it more as her trying to keep her reputation as a living legend in front of Araragi while also trying to help him out as much as she could, slowly discarding it as she realizes that she can't really fool him that consistently.
But she was living as a god. All sorts of vampire things weren't happening as they should have at that time.
I just came here for Shinobu bath images
Weird how Araragi is actually becoming more a Kaii though out the series.
That was just an offhand comment. I generally find loli vampire characters to be some of the best written in their own series, but they still pale in comparison to Shinobu.
Eh, why not. I haven't cracked open the folder much tonight.
So what you're saying is we could have avoided all this
Yeah. Sorry. I thought you understood that I was being flippant. Long arguments over stupid remarks are kind of par for the course here.
Perhaps, but shit slinging is just as par for the course so I was checking to see if it was that too
Well, the thing is that while she started off as a "living legend", she was always a human. (Or rather, a former human.) It's just that the perspective of her changes throughout the story, making her more humanlike as Araragi learns more about her on a personal level.
In Nise it wasn't just her acting with Araragi not buying it, Araragi still had a lot of awe for her, especially in the early parts of Nise. Even in the more recent novels there are times where he sees her as Kissshot, and it drives him nuts.
most threads on /a/ are huge circlejerks / some fag talking to himself hoping someone else will eventually post
I think if anything Araragi is becoming a specialist. It's pretty blatant in Bake, Kizu, and Nise that Oshino set Araragi up to become one.
Don't forget waifuwars
I remember when this wasn't the case. /a/ is really disgusting these days
[x] and this time I mean it
>Discussing our interpretations of a character's motivations.
Isn't this shit your literature professors were always asking you to do?
it's a rhetorical question to get you to think dumbass
there is no interpretation of a fictional story, author intent should be clear and inflexible
and fictional characters aren't live people
and this is a silly children's animation meant for entertainment
You were doing pretty good for a bit there. Then you got complacent.
Ya but his vampirism is consistently counted on and is becoming much more dominant in his body through out the story. Let us ignore Hana.
I'll generally agree with you there, but one nitpick: I don't think that seeing Shinobu as Kiss-Shot drives him nuts. He generally sees them as the same person, but in the scene you posted he's going nuts over the thought of her suffering.
I guess i came late to the thread.
Kind of, yeah. Well, have this for effort.
This waifu shit is not healthy for me but i can't stop.
Sweet i am not alone dumping.
stupid sexy shinobu
Our love for shinobu can revive dead threads.
Or let us circle jerk in peace.
I would not be surprised if Kissshot raped Araragi one point in the future.
I fucking love this picture.
Circle jerking is justifiable if its Shinobu.
>you will never be Araragi
>implying she hasn't fucked her unconscious savior during the minion transformation phase in kizu
She is voiced by Aya Hirano, wonder what the filthy otakus had to say about this
>That pot belly from all the doughnuts she's been eating
We need more Kissshot doujins.
>voiced by Aya Hirano
Are you baka?
She was before Nise at least. I think it was the Drama CD.
Read Kizu if you haven't.
My Jappango isn't strong enough.
Its translated on baka tsuki.
Then get fucked,
I'd rather go without food than eat shit. Translations are horrible.
Because she's not even a person.
So you only watch raws as well? That's pretty neat
Translated manga is the equivalent of dubs. Subs are not complete butcheries of the original message, just an overlay.
That is a really stupid reason for two things: One, all her arcs usually have character development and interactions with many characters, and two, her issues were in fact different. Her issues were that her situation couldn't be solved, and the anime cut out all the really good internal dialogue that helps you understand how fucked her life was and is.
To elaborate on the screentime part, let's look arc by arc.
Tsubasa Family: Tsubasa didn't even have much screentime in first part, most was talk with imoutos, the "family" theme had lots of stuff with Araragi and his sisters. Even if it is her arc, it is about Araragi's development and how Hanekawa taught him compassion, since he was pretty much edgemaster deluxe tapering off from Kizu, and that is another knock for not having Kizu first, which showed their bro-tier relationship before the descent, so to anime watchers, its the same type of arc. Especially since they took out the important theme which I'll point out for Tsubasa Tiger, which was Hanekawa creating the hero she never got inside herself.
Tsubasa Cat - usurped to focus and develop Hitagi and Koyomi's relationship, and was also showing development for Koyomi and Shinobu and the fatal flaw of Araragi's savior complex, which, again, Hanekawa helps him through Black Hanekawa even through her own issues. Not showing Tsubasa Song before Nise also hurt things, as we don't see her trying her best to change or her nobility. Nor the vow in Nise she made with Araragi to watch each other's back.
Tsubasa Tiger - showed Hitagi's development and many new characters and opened up the overarching plotline. Showed Tsubasa's noble spirit and how her advice in Bake was genuine, and she always wanted the best for Araragi and Hitagi even with the envy. Also Shaft cut out how she did in fact confide in people before meeting Koyomi, so her situation was more complex than anime watchers think.
Hanekawa really got screwed over if you look at things objectively.
bump for Shinobu
That's probably because someone at Shaft understood that she's a boring monogatari.
If shinobu were a ghost she'd be shinoBOO
Is someone streaming the BD version? I took the shots from a comparison website, don't pee yourself, anon.
Don't be stupid! She's a girl!