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Just finished this SHAFT masterpiece. Now I understand why everyone loves Shinobu so much. Are there other girls like her in the animeverse? I doubt it.
Shinobu thread.
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fuck off
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>everyone
She's my least favorite Monogatari girl and I don't even know why.
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>>100673621
SHAFT really likes straight lines.
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>>100673703
But she's a cute loli that likes donuts, what's not to love?
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But you haven't even gotten to the good part yet, as far as character is concerned.
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Summoning Kinomod who is Redwood's buttbody
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Just wait for Kizu.
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>>100673621
I just want to pat her head.
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>>100673821
What is this Redwood you talk about? A new show that I missed?
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>>100673890
A redwood is what you get from watching Shinobu bath scenes.
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>>100673890
The mod that deletes on topic discussion about lolis/if it contains loli/if it shows nipples
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>>100673822
>waiting for Kizu
I'm afraid you need to be immortal to finally see it.
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>>100673890
Butthurt niggermod.

I hope you're excited about seeing Shinobu in almost every arc now.
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>>100673956
>nipples
As long as there are no nipples it's fine, right?
Shinobu is too pure too have nipples.
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>>100674010
I think the new PC term for people of color is negro.
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>>100673777
Exactly! And she's voiced by Sakamoto Maaya, to boot. I should like her, right?

I really don't get it but I can't bring myself to give a single fuck about her and it pisses me off she takes up screentime that could've gone to the girls I like more.
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>>100673956
>SHAFT
>Nipples
You wat?
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>>100674022
>>100673956
TECHNICALLY nudity is allowed, if it's from a source material that's non-h. But mr.oversteppingbounds likes to ignore the rules. Because fuck the rules if you have power right?
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>>100674070
Nah, you didn't. Did you? Announcing your report is a no-no. You just want to watch the world burn, right?
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>>100674152
That's not only technically, moot literally said that once when /q/ was still around.
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>>100674121
Look closely at where her nipples should be and you'll see something.
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Shinobu is really great, the best girl among a cast full of good girls.

She's going to win the Monogatari. It's fate, if you know what I mean.
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>>100674158
I...is...is that a nipple?
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>>100674199
Looks more like some sort of artifact.
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>>100674199
Shit, that was the wrong screenshot.
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>>100674199
Feels like one of these images where you concentrate on one point and then quickly look away or something.
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>>100674206
>She's going to win the Monogatari. It's fate, if you know what I mean.
Well duh, she'll outlive all the other girls ten to one.
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>>100674253
Just SHAFT QUALITY. The animator's hand shook while drawing it.
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>>100674209
Nah, she wouldn't have only one, or? It's a drop of water, or some foam.
Just an animator having a giggle.Tee hee.
>inb4 >SHAFT >animators
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>>100674158
Nope they're banning over censored images too. You can't even post the archive link to the thread anymore or you get autobanned
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>>100674302
Twice?
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>>100674253
WHOA WHOA you guys haven't heard? Loli isn't allowed on /a/ anymore. I would delete this thread if I were you.
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A blonde towelhead, now I've seen everything.
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>>100674394
That's the first time I hear about that. Nobody would ban loli on /a/, right? That would be stupid. What's next, deleting a Yotsuba thread?
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>>100674392
That one is my favorite shot. That area just above the thighs and below the belly button. Hnnngh.

What episode is this?

>>100674394
>delete this thread
Sound like you're the uninformed one here, buddy.
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>>100674394
>loli isn't allowed
>implying this isn't allowed
screens taken directly from a Non-H anime. This is allowed entirely.
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>>100674394
>Loli isn't allowed on /a/ anymore.

That "anymore" pretty much reaches back to the time when /a/ split away from /b/, doesn't it?
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>>100674367
>You can't even post the archive link to the thread anymore or you get autobanned
Now that's some weird shit going on. I don't feel safe anymore. Hold me, /a/. Hold me tight.
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>>100674022
well about that
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>>100674511
>What episode is this?
4, IIRC
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>>100674585
Fuck you stop this shit, go back to /co/
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>>100674558
loli is not loli pornography but I'm sure you're just trolling or one of the IRC trying to stir shit up
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>>100674585
Just becuase he was banned, doesn't mean it's not actually allowed.
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>>100674394
Sounds like you're trolling to me.. I was in a handful of loli threads from the past week alone.
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>>100674585
I don't see any problem with that image, it's perfectly censored. If someone deletes it, it's obviously a fag and deserves stripped of mod powers.
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>>100674394

>WHOAH WOAH you guys haven't heard? Anime isn't allowed in non-anime boards anymore

This is what you sound like
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>>100674704
That collarbone. Heavenly.
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>>100674535
Tell that to the mod deleting any thread that has that screenshot from Crime Edge

>>100674511
Sorry. Failed attempt at humor. Loli threads have always been part of /a/ and deleting your threads was also something you used to be able to do.
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>>100674703
But what you just said is actually an extremely hot topic.
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I hope nobody gets pissed off when I say I want to bath with Shinobu and wash her back. There are no nipples on her back so it's not pedo, right?
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>>100674920
>Those shoulder bones
Very yes.
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>>100675013
You make Shinobu blush like a slut, shame on you.
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>>100674920
What kind of monster would be attracted to a young girl's nipples? There's literally no appeal. Only a truly sick person would find something sexual about that, or find it as decent grounds to ban someone.

This thread is making me realize how small my Shinobu folder is. It's a sin.
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If this thread goes down this board should go into rebellion mode and spam NSFW loli.
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Ignore the retard in here. He's trolling or is LRD.
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Calm down. Everything's gonna be fine.
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>>100675105
Shinobu folder?
You should have a shinobu hard drive
Filthy casual
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>>100675105
>Only a truly sick person would find something sexual about that, or find it as decent grounds to ban someone.
See, that's what I think as well. There's no reason to feel sexually aroused by a pre-pubescent girl or boy. By the way, are boy's chest bannable as well? Would only be fair, as a girl's chest differs in practically no way from a boy's.
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>>100675269
You don't seem to understand, they're trying to rile up the entire board. Not that the mods and janitors actions are really helping to calm everyone.
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>>100675269
>He's trolling or is LRD.

Those aren't mutually exclusive.
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>>100675352
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>>100673703
Shinobu is my fourth favorite. I used to hate her but after reading Kizu I love her.
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>>100675352
>You don't seem to understand, they're trying to rile up the entire board.
At least I don't try to rile anyone up. I just like the art. The gentle, caressing strokes with which some experienced man draw her body, the tender lines, her delicate frame.
Nothing sexual here.
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>>100675492
It's true, only a sexually deviant pedophile could get aroused by Shinobu's smooth flat chest, or her perfect round face and plump butt.
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>>100674095
Who do you like more anon?
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>>100674694
This.
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>>100675573
Correct. I admire her form, everything about her body, but only in a non-sexual way. Only a sexual deviant would find that perverted.
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>>100675369
You're right, but the latter is a special kind of troll.
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>>100675573
>butt.
Exhibit A, Your Honor.

captcha: amoreW you
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>>100674585
Stop stirring shit up.
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>>100675369
>>100675705
I managed to figure out that LRD is obviously a tripfag, probably "lolis R dead", right? Is he pro or contra loli, and why would he be in this thread? Lolis are very much alive here. Well ... technically Shinobu is dead, I guess, but you get the picture.
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How is this filthy pedophile thread still here?
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>>100675767
Shinobu thread?! Shinobu thread?!

God it's been so long. Dump images? You guys might have images that I still don't have yet.
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>>100673956
It's actually just one certain mod.
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>>100673703
Because uber shit taste.
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So can I post this picture?
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>>100673621
>Are there other girls like her in the animeverse? I doubt it.
You mean haughty blonde loli vampires? because there are a ton of those.
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>>100676047
Fu, fu, fu. There are no pedos here. Just people who appreciate the art of a drawn character. So unless SHAFT uses real life references with great detail, no children were harmed in the production of these images.
Hurt feelings of social justice warriors might be something different, though.
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>>100676058
To whom it may concern,

Fuck you.

Love,
shinobufag
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>>100673621
KA KA

Based Maaya Sakamoto
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>>100676198
As SHAFTgirls don't have nipples, they are perfectly fine to post and fantasize about to your heart's content.
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>>100676243
>Fu, fu, fu.
>Not kakaka

I'm platinum mad, anon.
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>>100676226
pics or it didn't happen
No, really, feel free to contribute with similar artwork, but make sure it's non-h anime and the evil nipples are somewhat obscured. We doN't want to make a mod cry.
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>>100673621
Never have a best girl been so obvious and dominated over the other girls so easily.
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>>100676366
>being this new to anime
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>>100676425
There's MH's Arsene.
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>>100676300
I'm sorry, I guess my blood is somewhere else than my head. You know, in some lower regions of my body. Due to posting all those adorable pictures of this little loli vampire. I mean I'm sitting here at my desk and all the blood drops to my feet. I have such a weak blood pressure.
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>>100676435
>missing the point this much
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Is your dad a pedohphile if your mom suddenly turned into a 500 year old vampire with an 8 year old body?
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>>100676580
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Are you an italian, /a/?
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>>100676684
Those are the kind of profound questions that philosophers debate for centuries.
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>>100676742
No, I'm Casanova.
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ITT: Neo-/a/ morality warriors enforce their thought laws.
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>>100676742
Haven't seen that episode, what was this all about? Did she swoon over some gigolo?
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>>100676929
Araragi kisses her.
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>>100676929
Yup.
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>>100676742
I never got this
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>>100676929
Ararararararararararararagi is quite well hung apparently.
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>>100676929
>some gigolo
Yes. The biggest one of them all.
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>>100677012
Italians are known for having some of the largest sausages in the world, often sold by themselves without garnish or other sides in restaurants.
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>>100677000
>>100677010
woah, now there's something to self-insert.
>>100677064
Ah, so he is Salami-san.
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>>100677012
Italians tend to kiss people or something like that.
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>>100676904
No thought laws here, anon. Just free spirits and free love and other free stuff.
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>>100677221
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>>100677184
>kiss people
In this case, he even kissed a loli. Look how she struggles at first but then surrenders, she obviously wants it and enjoys it. I bet it was one of those very wet kisses, she probably sucked on his tongue as if it was a thumb.
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>100677324
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>>100677485
She's a murderer isn't she? I've seen those eyes before. It's the one that would stab you 34 more times after she makes a smile on your throat.
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I want that bath.
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>>100677485
That's one of the wisest quotes I've ever seen out of animu.
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>>100677574
>Jodi Arias - The Anime
I'd watch that.
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>>100677644
That bath is two or three times bigger than my apartment, if not more.
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Look at those feet. 500 year old feet. Nothing even remote loli here.
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>>100677905
Fucking gentrophile.
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>>100676425
>best girl
Bitch please she isn't even best loli.
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>>100677935
Now, now, I don't want to be accused of being age-discriminatory. These social justice warriors are so confusing sometimes.
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>>100673777
>>100673814
>cute loli

Redwood bait, enjoy your incoming ban

Shinobu really comes into her own character I think during the alternate universe arc and made me respect her more than vampire fanservice
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>>100678001
I want to say you're wrong but I love snail, too as much as I love shinobu.
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Kiss-shot > Shinobu
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>>100678001
Mayoi's ending secured her place at the top for me. Shinobu has taken second. Karen comes in for 3rd.
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>>100678001
I stuttered!
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>>100678001
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>>100678206
Are there even nudes of her? At least post that fingersucking gif, please.
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>>100678075
That arc was where the point in the anime where Shaft hit you over the head with Shinobu's character. I though came through pretty well since Nise, but not in the obvious way it did then.
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>>100678001
It's shinobu's fault, all girls are really great.
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>>100673956
Is this something new? I've been gone for a month or so.
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>>100678280
Why would you want to sexuallise mayoi? Only lolicon would.
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>>100678206
On a scale of 1 to 10, how proud are you that you weren't able to protect her smile?
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>>100678178
I love all Monogataris (well except Snake, who is merely okay). I'd put Hachikuji third and Shinobu fourth. They're both adorable and fantastic characters but the competition in this series is fierce.
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>>100678280
haha, I have that gif and a ton of lewd...but I'm not posting any because best girl is bat
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>>100678433
Let me guess, monkey and bee on your first and second?
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>>100678433
Agreed. But I like Hachikuji because she ironically has the most adult eye-to-eye relationship with Araragi. Underneath the wordplay and banter, there's more mutual respect than any other character in the series.
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Man, now I want a bath and a complimentary loli so bad.
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>>100678555
And finger sucking! But >>100678472 won't post it, dammit.
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>>100678280
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>>100678555
>ironically
She's 23 and is one of the few character who don't have some obvious major personality flaw. It makes sense that she has the healthiest relationship with Araragi.
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>>100678520
Nope, neither. I'm a Crabfag. Cat is my second (I wasn't too keen on her at first but after Kizu and Neko I really warmed up to her). Then Snail, then Bat, then Bee and Phoenix tied, then Monkey. It's all relative though, because even though I Money pretty low I still love her character. Then there's Snake, who is easily my least favorite. I don't exactly dislike her or anything, she's merely okay. She's definitely far below the others though.
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Can this be wrong? Surely not.
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>>100678657
Google search not that hard.
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>>100678687
This oppai monster has some sneaky fingers.
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>>100678657
Took me 10 seconds to google it
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>>100678790
Crab and Cat a relative shit, but I can let that slide in light of the fact that we agree there are no bad girls.
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>>100679049
Thanks.
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>>100678790
>Cat on second

Well I assumed based on what most a wants if it isn't snail or bat. Glad thoguh that there are still people who has her on not-bottom or not-second-bottom. I personally like cat. I'm okay with crab.
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>>100679153
Yeah I'll just agree to disagree on that first part. There isn't a single bad girl in this series as far as I'm concerned. Hell, I can't think of a single character that I dislike.
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I still can't pick a favorite girl
Fuck I can't even pick a favorite boy, or a favorite oddity
why are these characters so great?
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>>100678687
>tfw can't access grieving panda gallery since too low mod power
Never heard of Green Ketchup [Zhen Lu]. Is it banned or something?
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>>100679479
There's always snake. She's objectively okay but she gets dislikable.
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>>100679482
Because nisio, he makes a girl for everyone.
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>tfw you're apparently the only phoenixfag on /a/
bat and snail are good though
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>>100674703
Leaving aside that statement that's pretty controversial (since there should be nothing wrong with posting anime pictures in other boards as long as you're not trying to derail anything, yet people call you out on it like you're posting CP), posting anime characters that happen to be lolis on /a/ shouldn't make you afraid of getting banned.

Always remember, loli != loli porn.
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>>100679315
I don't understand the hate she gets. She seemed generic at the beginning of Bake but by the end it was clear she had a lot more going on than it seemed. And after watching Neko and reading Kizu I couldn't help but love her. And the whole Tsubasa Tiger arc? I don't see how people can dislike her after all that.
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>>100680263
Phoenix is my second favorite
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>>100680263
snail is _____
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>>100680275
She just got a shit ton of screentime all in a row dealing with pretty much the exact same issues and her banter skill is relatively low. This bred a general attitude of 'when the fuck is cat going to get off screen so something interesting can happen?'

At least that's my take on it.
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>>100680617
forgettable.
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>>100680726
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>>100680799
>the joke
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>>100680263
She had the best op for Nise
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>>100680870
I listen to the full version regularly just for the vocals
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Vamp (not bat, fuck you people that say bat) > Snail > Bee = Cat > Snake > Phoenix = Monkey = Crab
I hated crab until Koimonogatari, the same way I hated cat during most of Bake.
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>>100681821
Vamp is Koyomi though
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>>100682031
Both are vamps.
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>>100682110
Yes but it's a bit dumb to call two characters the same thing
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>>100682031
Koyomi is rapist.
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>>100682031
Arararararararagi is Arararararararagi
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>>100682162
>implying I don't mean both when I say it.
>implying people even call him that.
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>>100682166
wouldn't you be one too?
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>>100681821
>hating crab
>ever
Disgusting
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>>100682518
I didn't hate her during Bake, but she got pretty annoying on the few scenes she had on everything until Koi.

Not that I need excuses to call your taste shit, though.
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>>100682405
No one calls Shinobu Vamp either
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>>100682489
Not for Peace Peace.
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>>100682778
I'm correcting people because calling her bat is wrong.
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>>100682841
Why is it wrong
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>>100682875
Vampires in Monogatari don't have anything to do with bats.
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>>100682518
>hating crab
>disgusting
>hating cat
>okay
Crabfags, people.
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>>100682911
Kanbaru didn't actually have anything to do with monkeys get that's what she gets called.
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Snail's death was the first time I really felt emotional in this show.
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>>100682518
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>>100682969
I don't hate Cat. I love Cat. I said earlier she's my second favorite.
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>>100673621
I finished this too just a few days ago. I think it's my favorite thing SHAFT has done. I really liked the OP's too, and all the characters are really well done.

I was not ready for those feels when Hachikuji passes on. ;_;

Also Kaiki is best character. RIP.
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>>100683007
That's because the arc is called that way. There's no mention of bats anywhere in Kizu or afterwards.
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Will Tsukihi be important ever?
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Are the LN's translated, and are they any good?
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>monogatari series
>good

itt fags
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>>100683193
Kizu's translation is pretty good.

Can't say anything about the others, I've yet to read them.

>>100683232
no u
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>>100683232
you must really hate monogatari to post that in a thread almost 200 posts long
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>>100683232
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>>100683162
But Koyomi is called Vamp in Kizu so Vamp is Koyomi
You can't have two characters with the same name anon
No one calls the fire sisters Araragi, for instance
>>100683193
A few of them are, and if you liked the anime you'll like them
>>100683191
If Araragi has any say in it, no. He doesn't want to burden his family
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Somehow my imouto never said this to me.
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>>100678433
Snake got good when she went full yandere psycho. Before that I gave no fucks about her
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>>100683191
we can only hope
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She's adorable and all, but I still prefer molluscs and crustaceans.
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>>100683325
You're just going in circles. Regardless of anything else, calling Shinobu Bat is wrong.
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Thinking about watching the the series.
but what order should i watch the monogatari series in? is there any connection between them?
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New season when? And when is the movie supposed to come out?
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>>100683400
Snake's always been good, and she's always been hated because >HanaKana and out of context LN spoilers.
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>>100683372
She can't say it if you put duct tape over her mouth.
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>>100683435
Snail a qt and her banter with Muraragi was just amazing.
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>>100683545
Bake, Nise, Neko Kuro, Second Season
Read Kizu in between
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>>100683545
Kizu comes before Bake, so it's impossible to watch them in a proper order for a few years to come.
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>>100683555
>he still believes in kizumonogatari

Son, just give up hope now like we all did.
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How the fuck do the Araragis have such a nice bathroom anyway

Also do we see their parents
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>>100683586
>Kizu comes before Bake
But it's supposed to be watched afterwards.
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>>100683586
>watching chronologically instead of release date
Guess you're delaying Hana 'till the third season is over?
>>100683555
Hana this year
Third Season when Nisio releases last book probably
Kizu never
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>>100683646
The mom appears briefly.
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>>100674199
>That large loli belly
So wonderful.
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>>100683646
Doesn't Arararagi mom show up in Neko?
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Why is Tsukihi so happy
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>>100682911
>Kisshot literally gives herself huge bat wings at a part in Kizu
pls
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>>100683701
>Third Season when Nisio releases last book probably
So never too.
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>>100683719
Remind me which episode and when and I'll rewatch, I fell asleep during Neko
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>>100683736
She's a 12 year old who gets to go with her sister beating up bullies and giving love advice
Wouldn't you be happy too
>>100683787
Neko Shiro 4 iirc
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>>100683582
thank you.
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>>100683578
>i broke an antenna!
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>>100683646
>How the fuck do the Araragis have such a nice bathroom anyway.
It isn't cannon. Shaft fucks with the environment depending on the mood/narrator. During that scene they were going for a surreal feeling, so they had a giant magic bathroom.
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>Never forget
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I have nothing against Shinobu, but Kabuki and Oni (except the last episode) were quite shitty.
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>>100683973
I bit your tongue.
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>>100683973
That's not Kaikikiki-san.
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>>100684050
Kaiki deserved it
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>>100684109
He deserved a statue.
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>>100683973
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>>100683973
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnLGWph0VZ0
>>100684109
>
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>>100683973
>>100684044
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>>100684109
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>>100683701
Wait. Is Hana the next season/series, or is it a movie? And it takes place after whatever will be covered in Season 3? Were the novels released out of chronological order (outside of Neko Kuro and Kizu, which I already know were released as prequels) or is this Shaft just being retarded about what to adapt?
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>>100684128
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Objectively the cutest and best girl.
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>>100684286
Agreed.
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>>100684286
Wrong picture anon
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>>100683973
>>100684044
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>>100684248
>Is Hana the next series

Yes

>Is SHAFT being retarded

Yes
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>>100684248
Novels were out of order
Bake -> Kizu (first chronologically) -> Nise -> Neko Kuro -> Neko Shiro -> Kabuki -> Hana (last chronologically, at least for now iirc) -> Otori -> Oni -> Koi -> then others
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>>100684286
I like her best when she's being a bitch
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>>100684248
Hana will be OVA, probably 4 episodes like Neko Kuro was
Third Season if there is one will be a bunch of books just like Second Season
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Best arc of the second season?

Hitagi End > Nadeko Medusa > rest
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>>100684482
Can't disagree with you
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>>100683787
Just rewatch it all, it's like an hour.
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Why is Ougi so ugly?
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>you will never have a vampire loli always watching your back and helping you fight the supernatural
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>>100684567
Murderers usually are.
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>>100684482
Hitagi End > Shinobu Time > Nadeko Medusa > Tsubasa Tiger > Anything else I'm forgetting
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>>100684567
It's the souless eyes
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>>100684161
>mfw watching all 10 hours
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>>100684567
Meme got all the handsome genes. Also she's a monster. Also I think she's kinda cute.
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>>100684455
What was left anyways?

I know the last two are Owarimonogatari and Zokuowarimonogatari, none of which have been released as books, at least last time I checked.
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>>100684639
>>100684482
>Forgetting Mayoi Jiangshi
It's like you hate time travel and Shinobu.
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>>100684753
Owari was released in October, at least the first volume was
There's also Tsuki and Koyomi
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>>100684753
Tsukimonogatari
Koyomimonogatari (short stories)
Owari volume 1-3
Zokuowarimonogatari
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>>100684877
>>100684836
>3 volumes of Owari
So, last season by 2020 I see.
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>>100684455
>if there is one
I thought Shaft already said they would adapt them all? Plus it's not like the series isn't popular. Unless Shaft decides they hate money I would think a season 3 is inevitable.
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end of Shinobu arc made us all cry even without subs so that was objectively the best scene
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>>100684918
first volume came out last october and the second will be released this month if I'm not wrong.
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>>100684924
They could do it some other way instead of a "Third Season" though
Like give a full season for Owari and Tsuki be released as an OVA
Then later have the finishing book as a movie or something
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I didn't like Karen cutting her hair.
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>>100684924
Shaft does hate money. What they don't realise is that wasting all their money on adapting shit only makes them more money.
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>>100685087
Welcome to Nisio
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>>100683508
You're clearly beside yourself
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>>100685035
Oh, I see. I thought you were suggesting they'd drop the series. Honestly I think I'd prefer if they avoided combining books into a single season again, as a lot of stuff was cut from Season 2.
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>>100685087
I thought all the haircuts were good except Crab's.
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Is this a bathing animu?
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>>100685087
Best sudden plot twist ever.
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>>100685087
Monkey doesn't have that disgusting long hairstyle in Hanamonogatari, does she?
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>>100685270
sometimes
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>>100685241
Nah, Crabs hairstyle looked really cute in Koi.
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>>100685363
What I should have said was that I thought all the cuts were improvements except Crab's. It was still good.
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>>100685326
picked up
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>>100685363
>>100685412
Crab's hair in Tsubasa Tiger was pretty bad though.
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>>100685412
I see.
IMO Karen was better with long hair.
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>>100685087
>Hitagi looks best with long hair
>She cuts it.
>Tsubasa looks best with braids
>She cuts them.
>Karen looks best with her ponytail
>She cuts it.
>Suruga looks best with short hair
>She grows it out.
>Tsukihi looks best with short hair
>She grows it out.

Shinobu will be bald before the series is over.
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>>100685427
You just wait til Ep 8

Why this hasn't been mentioned yet ITT
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>>100685550
>>Tsubasa looks best with braids
Nice try, bad opinions guy.
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>>100685550
Feels good to have the same shitty taste as Nisio
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>>100685550

Tsubasa is the only one who looks better now.
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where the fuck is the bd release of nise on nyaa?
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>>100685462
It looked too "boyish", almost like Kanbaru's during Bake. Good that her hairstyle changed after Tsubasa Tiger.
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>>100685550
>Tsubasa looks best with braids
But you're wrong. Braids are disgusting on anything other than lolis.

Cat getting her hair cut and losing the glasses (and the subsequent tiger hair) is the only appearance change out of all Monogatari that I can get behind.
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good god, this fucking scene. Based.
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>>100685616
>>100685771
>>100685841
I'll admit that out of all of the hair changes Hanekawa's looks the best. I still miss the long hair and especially the glasses, though.
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>>100685931
Shaft got better at drawing human faces in their TV releases.
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>>100686007
Add Koi.
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>>100685969
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>>100685804
actually nevermind ill just go bakbt
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>>100685841
This is truth.
Tiger>Short>Braids
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>>100685969
>mfw

I look forward to celebrating the anniversary of this scene with you next month /a/niki

OHB where?
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>>100685804
animebytes or bakabt
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>>100686007
You can debate the others all you want but on Hitagi long hair is best.
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>>100685969
>really bad
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>>100686403
>OHB where
Probably raising his incestbaby.
>>
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>>100686432
Truth.
Short hair looks great on her too, but long was just amazing.
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>>100686432
Ponytail best long hair
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Why aren't you watching Ep12 of Bake
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>>100686518
>>
I don't really know why but Shinobu got a lot less likable for me in the most recent season.
I'm still fascinated by what she has to say but somehow she feels a lot less powerful and world-wise. I was kind of hoping that we'd get to see her do actually evil things in Shinobu Time. Will we ever see her purposefully act out, or are all of Kisshot's stories being misunderstood and lonely?
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>>100686648
Rewatched it dozen of times already.
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>>100686648
because i've already cried and felt miserable today, anon.
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>10 more days until Shinobu Mail

Hold on to your butts /a/. The OTP is soon.
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>>100686564
>>100686626
I don't think its possible for her to not look great.
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>>100686892
It comes with the territory of being best girl.
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>>100686863
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whats going on with this torrent? I'm doing something wrong, aren't I?

http://bakabt.me/168628-nisemonogatari-bd-720p-coalgirls.html
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>>100686863
Agreed. Kisshot x First servant OTP!
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>>100686863
>the massive shitstorm on /a/ when Shinobu gets killed off
It's going to happen eventually. The tears will be delicious.
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>>100686788
You can completely, totally, blame every single bit of that on SHAFT.

It's like Shinbo decided just said "FUCK IT, SHE'S ONLY THE MOST POPULAR CHARACTER IN THE SERIES, LET'S NOT EVEN TRY NOT TO FUCK UP EVERY SINGLE SCENE SHE APPEARS IN."
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>>100686767
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>>100687056
It's a bit too obvious that she'll die. Not sure what Nisio is planning.
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>>100687074
I believe you anon kun
Will Kizu help this?
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>>100687109
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>>100686863
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>>100687163
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsEHNf1LA_g
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>>100687022
If First Servant was even remotely relevant Kissshot wouldn't have revived a complete stranger like Araragi.

>>100687056
Shinobu Mail is about the job Araragi does for Gaen. If she dies it's not unless it has a time skip at the end like Shinobu Time.
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>>100687145
I'd recommend reading Kizu instead. There's not really any way the adaptation can surpass the original, but it will be worth watching.

S2 just made it really fucking obvious that you need to take everything in the anime with a pound of salt, because SHAFT isn't above destroying context, cutting characterization, and completely changing scenes because of their own poor planning.
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>>100686863
what?
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>>100686835
Karen is hot.
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>>100687431
Owari volume 2.
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>>100687263
I fucked up my reply somewhat. I don't expect it to happen in Shinobu Mail, but I'm confident it will happen eventually. Which sucks because she's one of my favorites.
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>>100687468
yes.
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>>100687431
One of the last 3 volumes of the series comes out on the 31st. The story for it is called Shinobu Mail. All signs suggest that it's also a really crucial point in the series.
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>>100687646
Google isn't turning anything up as far as announcements go, where's the sauce on dis?
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>>100687870
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Monogatari_novels
Posting wikipedia assuming you can't into moon. Just follow the citation if you can.
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>>100676742
Non sono nato o cresciuto ma sono cittadino da 6 anni.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUqBM-Y4r9Q
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>>100686933
>>100686892
>>100686564
Crabfags circlejerking

>>100686626
A gentleman and a scholar.
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>>100688617
HHeh
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I like Hitagi. She's very good at staying offscreen.
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Why is she so perfect.
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>>100687135
Nishio is Japanese Martin.

He'll kill any character you love.
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>>100689167
Then you're in a superposition of having taste and not having taste.
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>>100689766
She's a blonde loli vampire that's actually written well.
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>>100689984
Yes.
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>>100690131
I love this gif. She looks so bro; even more-so than kanbaru.
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Everyone leave? Shinobu over?
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>>100692525
There are at least 2 other gatari threads going on right now.

>>100684227
>>100682813
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>>100690345
It pains me to know I will never have a blonde loli vampire living in my shadow.
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>>100685841

Her braids are fine, and she only needs a new style of glasses. Hell Koyomi still keeps the braids in his room even now.

The motherly air she had was diminished by losing her long hair, but still going strong. And it'll be even sexier with stripes.
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>>100693697
You and me both
>>
I liked her before she started talking. Really not a fan of the whole omnipotent, arrogant vampire archetype.
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>>100694109
>arrogant
It's a really flimsy facade. Watching it break down easily in front of Araragi only adds to her charm.
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>>100686788
She's supposed to be weaker and more childish. Oshino's "apparitions exist because people believe in them" speech in Neko explains that.
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>>100675352
That pic made me cum instantaneously from a flaccid penis
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>>100689766
What is that the cover of?
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>>100693859
No! Bad anon!

Braids are bad and you should feel bad.`
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>>100692615
Which means we're short of our quota
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>>100673621
>>100673730
>>100673851
>>100673890
>>100674022
>>100674158
>>100674256
>>100674410
>>100675492
>>100676042
>>100676243
>>100677905
Fucking
>STREAMING
>STREAMING SHAFT

I'm going to be sick.
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>>100696627
Shinobu Heroine Book
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>>100696825
I was actually wondering what was up with that image size, but I don't think it's streaming.

Unless there's some player that lets you take screenshots and save it to your computer, which would be pretty advanced for streaming standards as far as I know.
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>>100696825
stop sperging out mang
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>>100697082
Thanks
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>>100697183
It's a pretty nice book. It's got some nice Shinobu pictures, I can do a small image dump the book is about 10 pages.
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>>100697669
http://exhentai.org/g/663814/2579865e2a/

I think its longer than that, this gallery is 10 pages and it says incomplete.

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOBK-1600751

I wish that link said how many pages there were
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>>100697832
Oh it's incomplete? I have the book downloaded and it's only 10 pages.. I was considering buying a physical copy too. Oh and thanks for posting the link.
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>>100697832
>>100697669
I have the book and it's actually 48 pages.
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>>100698095
Yeah me too, for some reason I really want to run my hand over a physical copy of the cover to feel the golden font.

>>100698151
Awesome, buying right now
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>>100698151
Okay, me too.
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>>100686788
Kissshot was never "evil." I'm not sure where you got that image of her. She was extremely powerful, and extremely free-spirited, but not malignant. She ate humans out of necessity, her seeing humans as "food" is not a trait of evil but a simple matter of course. You do not weep for the death of something that lives a fraction of your lifetime, that serves as your one food source, that you have watched build and destroy entire civilizations in (to your eyes) very short time. Most people don't even care about those that aren't personal friends or family of theirs.


>>100694517
Honestly, Kissshot had a pretty playful personality herself. I honestly doubt that the childishness entirely comes from Araragi's perception of her.
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>>100703334
Pretty sure that a picture of Nadeko Snake
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>>100703334
Honestly, that's something that anyone who hasn't read Kizu misses out on. Shinobu didn't just turn "nice" because of being transformed and/or the way Araragi sees her. She pretends it is, just like she pretends she turns evil if she turns vampire, and just like she pretends that was the reason she destroyed the world. Kissshot was/is a total bro even as a vampire.
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>>100703678
I didn't mean the literal image, silly anon.
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>>100689984
How many are written badly? This may be me not being exposed to enough of them but I think they're generally well written
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God damn i want more Kissshot but doubt we will get that.
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>>100705000

At least i hope next LN has teen form.
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I've never seen her the same way after seeing that one frame in bakemonogatari ep15 bd where her vagina was covered up with a band aid
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>>100705000

Trips don't lie
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Quiet and cute Bakemonogatari Shinobu > Lewd Nisemonogatari Shinobu
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>>100705385
I didn't know taste could get this bad
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>>100673621
>*monogatari
>masterpiece
hahahahah
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>>100705385
>bakemonogatari ep15 bd where her vagina was covered up with a band aid
>not lewd
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I want Shinobu to shit talk me while she masturbates
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>>100704707
Well, there are others that are written okay but Shinobu is written very well. If I had to give some concrete reason about how well she is written, I can't really think of her in terms of an archetype like I can for most other characters. For example, Shinobu doesn't do things because she's the wise old character who likes helping out the younguns, or because of one single plot device. Shinobu has layered motivations, where she honestly wants to help out Araragi because she cares for him, but then she is super emotionally dependent on him but is trying to reconcile it with her pride as one of the most powerful kaii ever. Then there is the whole bit where what she would probably like the most is for her and Araragi to become full vampires and go off together, but she knows Araragi doesn't want to leave his friends and family behind and isn't trying to force the issue. I could go on, but I think you've probably gotten the point by now.

>>100705385
>Suffering and seething with anger. > Lively and playful, if not completely content.
You what?
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>>100705679
Well yeah I got the point, because I never questioned that Shinobu was well written, I was questioning that other blonde loli vampires weren't, they're usually among the best characters in their series
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>>100704707
It's not that they're written badly, but more that Shinobu's written exceedingly well. The whole mind-meld symbiosis thing makes for an incredibly interesting relationship between her and Araragi, especially because Nisio didn't go overboard with it and take all individuality from the characters, meaning they can still interact and develop a real relationship.
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>>100705784

Fuck when is Dance in the vampire bund going to continue again?
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>>100705998
Exactly the sort of example I was thinking of, and didn't they say this year or is that just me repeating some anon?
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>>100705679
I don't think she really cares to become a vampire again at this point. Araragi has had a profound enough effect on her that she probably caught his case of the moralfaggotry and won't enjoy going back to eating people.

I think it's kind of similar to how Mayoi didn't want to go back to making people lose their way, even if it meant passing on. Hopefully Shinobu's fate won't be the same way though.
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>>100706061
Well Shinobu still sucks blood from time to time, even if it is Arararagi's usually, so I don't see why she would
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>>100673621
Most people who like shinobu are attached because they read kizu. You just like her because shes a loli
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>>100705784
What about this one?
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>>100705784
Well, let's look at Eva from Negima as an example:
She fits pretty squarely into the harsh teacher archetype, with her personality for flavor and a background with her student's father. Yes, she is interesting, but I can still predict her actions based on her archetype.

>>100706061
If some of the summaries I've read are correct, Shinobu's preferred outcome is both her and Araragi becoming vampires together, but being together with Araragi is the most important thing.
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>>100706103
That's out of necessity, isn't it? And sucking blood from Araragi is kind of the best of both worlds for her.
>She gets to drink her husbando's blood on a regular basis
>She doesn't have to kill people to feed herself, because doing so would make her husbando sad
>She gets to straddle his lap and snuggle against his musclebound chest every time she feeds from him
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>>100706227
You need to remember that vampires eat people weekly. An unstoppable raging hunger that Araragi was about to kill himself over in order to stop himself
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>>100706147
Kizu is important for fully appreciating her character, but Shinobu has a very likeable personality even if you don't get deep into her story.

That's really the kind of series Monogatari is. It manages to both be enjoyable at face value AND have a solid plot for those willing to do a little digging.
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>>100673621
I'm honestly only started to really like her in a second season, in Nise she was too much of a "cool" character aka never dropped her arrogant attitude and show some of her weak side, which makes her more human/lively.
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>>100678075
>MUH RESPECT
Is this some tu,blr influence?
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>>100706034

Should of been last year but maybe will be this year.
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>>100706230
Don't know of it, like I said underexposure perhaps since off the top of my head I can only really name Shinobu, Rachel, Mina and Eva, might be a couple others but they're not coming to mind
>>100706227
I woudn't say predictable is quite the same as badly written myself, she reads believably enough, she has an interesting personality and she had some neat backstory, what else does she need to be at least decently well written? Is she as developed as someone like Shinobu? No, but she's not exactly bad either.
>>100706243
Necessity or not I'm pretty sure just sucking blood is the only real "job" vampires have so the darkness should leave her alone
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>>100705000
Aside from Kizu being animated its not going to happen unless Araragi somehow gets killed or changes his morals and allows Shinobu to return them both into vampires.
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if shinobu was a beer she'd be shinobrew
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>>100706335
Yes. Which is why she isn't forcing the issue. She's already spent enough time with a thrall who hated being a vampire and doesn't want to put Araragi through that or go through it again herself. But if somehow Araragi could grow to be okay with it, as he ages and watches everyone except Shinobu wither and leave him behind, she would very much like for them to be vampires again. Well, that last sentence is just based on my analysis of her character.

>>100706572
I'll agree that predictable does not mean badly written, but predictable based on an archetype starts to detract from the quality of a character.
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>>100704025
ooooh I see, nvm
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>>100706709
I'd have to reread Negima to be sure, but I could have sworn that there were a couple moments where she goes and does things outside of the harsh teacher archetype, specifically thing relating to Nagi come to mind, irregardless, I'm mostly looking to go for "not bad" as opposed to "amazing" seeing as she wasn't even really one of the main characters so it's hard for her to get too much time devoted to her quality of character when you have that many others to focus on
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>>100706646
If shinobu was a beer I might start drinking beer.
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>>100706887
I already acknowledged that she had some fairly significant personality of her own that goes outside her archetype, but it's still nowhere near as deep as Shinobu's myriad of motivations. Also, I'd say that Eva was a pretty central character, considering that she was a key figure in most of the major events and is currently the only holdover in the sequel.
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>>100706431
If you had read Kizu you would have gotten to see a bit of her weaker side. I loved her portrayal in Nise though, she had a very otherworldly charm throughout the season. I think that was intended by Nisio, as Shinobu as a character is meant to start as the very personification of "living legend" and through the series develop to becoming "human".
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>>100706335
This is less significant depending on the strength of the vampire though. Shinobu says she went for like an entire year without eating humans when she lived as a god.
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What's with this disgusting circlejerk here?
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>>100707158
Well perhaps, maybe she is central enough to be considered a main, regardless, Negima isn't Monogatari with it's focus on characters and no fighting, so with the time she got she wasn't going to be more developed than Shinobu.

You'll notice however again, that that was never my contention, my contention was originally with the post "she's a vampire loli who's well written" and wanting to know what vampire lolis were badly written as a result, since the ones I'm familiar with are decently/well written even if not quite the same as the Monogatari characters. I'm not asking about if Shinobu's better, yet it keeps coming back to this
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>>100707265
Doesn't matter. Araragi was Shinobu's full subordinate and got hungry before the end of spring break. If he gets hungry, its all over.
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>>100697088
try pressing print screen on your keyboard, then going to paint and selecting the big dotted square tool then hitting paste on the blank white part of the picture.
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>>100707227
Eh, I saw it more as her trying to keep her reputation as a living legend in front of Araragi while also trying to help him out as much as she could, slowly discarding it as she realizes that she can't really fool him that consistently.

>>100707265
But she was living as a god. All sorts of vampire things weren't happening as they should have at that time.
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>>100707321
I just came here for Shinobu bath images
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>>100707227

Weird how Araragi is actually becoming more a Kaii though out the series.
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>>100707405
That was just an offhand comment. I generally find loli vampire characters to be some of the best written in their own series, but they still pale in comparison to Shinobu.

>>100707426
Eh, why not. I haven't cracked open the folder much tonight.
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>>100707583
So what you're saying is we could have avoided all this
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>>100707641
Yeah. Sorry. I thought you understood that I was being flippant. Long arguments over stupid remarks are kind of par for the course here.
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>>100707715
Perhaps, but shit slinging is just as par for the course so I was checking to see if it was that too
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>>100707425
Well, the thing is that while she started off as a "living legend", she was always a human. (Or rather, a former human.) It's just that the perspective of her changes throughout the story, making her more humanlike as Araragi learns more about her on a personal level.

In Nise it wasn't just her acting with Araragi not buying it, Araragi still had a lot of awe for her, especially in the early parts of Nise. Even in the more recent novels there are times where he sees her as Kissshot, and it drives him nuts.
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>>100707321

most threads on /a/ are huge circlejerks / some fag talking to himself hoping someone else will eventually post
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>>100707529
I think if anything Araragi is becoming a specialist. It's pretty blatant in Bake, Kizu, and Nise that Oshino set Araragi up to become one.
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>>100707812
Don't forget waifuwars
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>>100707812
I remember when this wasn't the case. /a/ is really disgusting these days

[x] and this time I mean it
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>>100707962
>Discussing our interpretations of a character's motivations.
>Circlejerk.
Isn't this shit your literature professors were always asking you to do?
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>>100708092

it's a rhetorical question to get you to think dumbass

there is no interpretation of a fictional story, author intent should be clear and inflexible
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and fictional characters aren't live people

and this is a silly children's animation meant for entertainment
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>>100708242
You were doing pretty good for a bit there. Then you got complacent.
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>>100707854

Ya but his vampirism is consistently counted on and is becoming much more dominant in his body through out the story. Let us ignore Hana.
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>>100707811
I'll generally agree with you there, but one nitpick: I don't think that seeing Shinobu as Kiss-Shot drives him nuts. He generally sees them as the same person, but in the scene you posted he's going nuts over the thought of her suffering.
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hmm
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I guess i came late to the thread.
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>>100709343
Kind of, yeah. Well, have this for effort.
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>>100709380

Marvelous.
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This waifu shit is not healthy for me but i can't stop.
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Sweet i am not alone dumping.
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stupid sexy shinobu
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>>100710352

Agreed.
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>>100710342
Our love for shinobu can revive dead threads.
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>>100710525

Or let us circle jerk in peace.
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I would not be surprised if Kissshot raped Araragi one point in the future.
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>>100710525
I fucking love this picture.
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>>100710550
Circle jerking is justifiable if its Shinobu.
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>>100710593

Indeed.
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>>100710584

>you will never be Araragi
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>>100710584
>implying she hasn't fucked her unconscious savior during the minion transformation phase in kizu
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>>100673621
She is voiced by Aya Hirano, wonder what the filthy otakus had to say about this
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>>100674199
>That pot belly from all the doughnuts she's been eating

Sasuga Shaft
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>>100710693
>>100710715


We need more Kissshot doujins.
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>>100710725
>voiced by Aya Hirano
Are you baka?
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>>100710868
She was before Nise at least. I think it was the Drama CD.
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Downloading now.
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>>100711022


Read Kizu if you haven't.
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>>100711063
My Jappango isn't strong enough.
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>>100711084
Its translated on baka tsuki.
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>>100711128
>translated
No.
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>>100711151

Then get fucked,
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>>100711217
I'd rather go without food than eat shit. Translations are horrible.
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>>100684567
Because she's not even a person.
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>>100711271
So you only watch raws as well? That's pretty neat
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>>100711367
Translated manga is the equivalent of dubs. Subs are not complete butcheries of the original message, just an overlay.
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>>100684286
Seconded
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>>100680701

That is a really stupid reason for two things: One, all her arcs usually have character development and interactions with many characters, and two, her issues were in fact different. Her issues were that her situation couldn't be solved, and the anime cut out all the really good internal dialogue that helps you understand how fucked her life was and is.

To elaborate on the screentime part, let's look arc by arc.

Tsubasa Family: Tsubasa didn't even have much screentime in first part, most was talk with imoutos, the "family" theme had lots of stuff with Araragi and his sisters. Even if it is her arc, it is about Araragi's development and how Hanekawa taught him compassion, since he was pretty much edgemaster deluxe tapering off from Kizu, and that is another knock for not having Kizu first, which showed their bro-tier relationship before the descent, so to anime watchers, its the same type of arc. Especially since they took out the important theme which I'll point out for Tsubasa Tiger, which was Hanekawa creating the hero she never got inside herself.

Tsubasa Cat - usurped to focus and develop Hitagi and Koyomi's relationship, and was also showing development for Koyomi and Shinobu and the fatal flaw of Araragi's savior complex, which, again, Hanekawa helps him through Black Hanekawa even through her own issues. Not showing Tsubasa Song before Nise also hurt things, as we don't see her trying her best to change or her nobility. Nor the vow in Nise she made with Araragi to watch each other's back.

Tsubasa Tiger - showed Hitagi's development and many new characters and opened up the overarching plotline. Showed Tsubasa's noble spirit and how her advice in Bake was genuine, and she always wanted the best for Araragi and Hitagi even with the envy. Also Shaft cut out how she did in fact confide in people before meeting Koyomi, so her situation was more complex than anime watchers think.

Hanekawa really got screwed over if you look at things objectively.
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bump for Shinobu
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>>100714101
That's probably because someone at Shaft understood that she's a boring monogatari.
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>>100706646
>>100707021
If shinobu were a ghost she'd be shinoBOO
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>>100696825
Is someone streaming the BD version? I took the shots from a comparison website, don't pee yourself, anon.
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>>100710584
Don't be stupid! She's a girl!



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