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Is this anime really for little girls?
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How awful.
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>>100672444
Now you know why today's girls are sluts.
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Who else was supposed to buy records and other merchandise?
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Yes.
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I liked Mirror Mami better than regular Mami.
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>>100672444
Creamy mami just wanted to be filled with cream
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>>100677867
Her parents don't run a crepe shop for nothing.
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Man I need to watch this.
The first episodes had tons of pantyshots.
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What may seem weird is that Yuu tends to get sexualized more than Mami. With Midori in the picture it goes beyond childish innocence.
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I'm not watching Creamy Mami until the BD release later this year. Hopefully it all gets uploaded, unlike pic related.

Also, anime sols subs or L-E? The new subs look better than live-evil's, from what I've seen of them.
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Yes. Mami was aimed at little girls and didn't have an otaku fanbase back then. Not in the same way mahou shoujo shows did in the mid 00s.

Japanese kids are brought up on toilet humor and 'naughty things', the pantyshots weren't there for fanservice, it was just to create cheap laughs.

>>100679670

Live-Evil, though I wasn't involved this time around.
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>>100680633
>Live-Evil, though I wasn't involved this time around.
What are the chances that L-E will be subbing the BD release?
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>>100680814
0. It's licensed and they haven't even touched the OVA.
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>>100675606
Is this from Bakamonogatari?
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>>100681220
It's from the music clip utility for the PC98. You select a BGM and CG and cut them together for a video clip.
They also released an adventure/VN.
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>>100680814

None, it's licensed now as >>100681205 says

OAVs got put off and put off to the point where it became a running joke. I don't think anyone who worked on Mami has any plans on doing the OAVs too.
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>>100672444
>Is this anime really for little girls?
Just want to link to the officially endorsed Creamy Mami MMD models. The CGI guy actually worked with the original artist to make them.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22258520
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>>100681941
I expected something much lewder.
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>>100682498
Mami is a pure angel just like this episode said.
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>>100682606
But angels are naked.
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>>100680633
Actually Creamy Mami is an important landmark in the history of moe culture. Minky Momo had a large otaku fanbase that the producers became aware of, and in later productions like Creamy Mami the staff was aware of older male's interest in this kind of thing
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>>100681941
Those models look good, you mean they worked with Akemi Takada?

Anyway it's still mostly girls that love Creamy Mami, there's a lot of fashion accessories and clothes for women with CM prints.
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>>100684013

No it wasn't actually. It wasn't until the 90s that Otaku began watching Mahou Shoujo shows because of their prominence. It certainly has nothing to do with 'moe' either.

Male interest in Magical Girl shows was by otaku, but otaku back then did not exist as they did even just 5-10 years afterwards, let alone now.

Anime otaku are/were animation fanatics, they watched girl's and children's shows indiscriminately because they loved animation. It didn't have anything to do with 'moe' or even cute characters.

Otaku became synonymous with magical girls and 'cute' characters somewhere around the late 90s/early 2000s, not as early as the 80s or 70s.
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>>100686790

Stop talking out of your ass dude.
Otaku were all over this the same way they were all over UY.
It made their dicks twitch, stuff like Mami and Minky Momo are THE proto moe.

Lolicon/moe culture comes from the start, why do you think the 3 Zentran from SDF were named warera rori konda?
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>>100686790
If you take a look at the jp wikipedia page for Minkoy Momo, you'll see they mention that the otaku were interested in it.
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Is time for?, Kid shows in japan?
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>>100688269

No they did not.

'Moe' was not even coined until the 90s. Otaku were never into 'cute' stuff.

You're the one talking out of your ass. I can bet I know a fuckload more about the history of otaku culture than you do.

>>100688521

In the same way they were interested in absolutely anything at the time. By definition an anime otaku would be interested in any form of animation, particularly something pioneering a new genre.

'Otaku' isn't just a word for 'geek', it's about having an encyclopedic, obsessive knowledge of the chosen subject.
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>>100688924
>Otaku were never into 'cute' stuff.
Where do you think stuff like Nanako SOS came from? The "father of lolicon". It was a developing thing in the 80s, but it was there.
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>>100682811
Not everyone can be a hot angel, Anon.
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>>100689083

You're confusing 'otaku' with people who watch hentai.

H-Games, eroge and nukige also existed before the 'otaku' market were ever involved. Lolicons have always been a part of Japanese society and has nothing to do with 'otaku', only that some otaku may be lolicon. You're confusing two very different things. There is a reason why the hentai market in Japan is so big yet most of the paying customers have no interest in anime and are far from 'otaku'.
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>>100672444
Yes. (ღ˘⌣˘ღ)
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>>100688924
>claims to know more about otaku history
>can't even differentiate between mania and otaku


Whelp it was a nice thread while it lasted.
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>>100689293
>You're confusing 'otaku' with people who watch hentai.
This is a regular show. It aired at 6pm.
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>>100689436

Mania and otaku are one and the same. 'Otaku' existed before 'otaku subculture' which is what you are referring to. There is no difference.

>>100689489

Why is that relevant?
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>>100689547
It's relevant because you thought I was conflating otaku with people who watch hentai. It's not a hentai, but it was the work of one of the pioneers of lolicon.
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>>100689621

So? He may have been a pioneer of lolicon but I wouldn't call Nanako a 'lolicon' show. IIRC Azuma was an aspiring mangaka who is virtually proto-first-wave otaku, he himself is a lolicon so it reflected in his works. Once again, nothing to do with otaku here.
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>>100689868
>who is virtually proto-first-wave otaku
>nothing to do with otaku here
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>>100690105

Do you even know what First-wave otaku are?

And this still means absolutely nothing. He was proto-first-wave otaku, he went on to draw manga that was adapted into TV anime in the 80s. So what? It doesn't have any relevance to what I was saying. He was a lolicon and his works reflected this, it's no different from an otaku manga-ka being politically biased in some way.
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>>100691047
You aren't refuting that otaku were into cute stuff. Here you have something written by and was watched by "proto-first-wave otaku".
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>>100691347

Actually yes I am.

The claim is that Minky Momo and early children's shows were a 'landmark of moe' and were otaku favorites. This is not correct.

Anime otaku as a generalized whole did not 'favour' shows aimed at children until the 90s. In the early days of anime, the first-wave otaku were SF fans. Yes they watched shows like Minky Momo, Creamy Mami and Nanako SOS but these shows were not there in order to be aimed at 'otaku' who hadn't really taken shape at that time as a subculture that we see today. They watched it because they were otaku, otaku are obsessed with their chosen subject, so naturally they would watch anything that aired.

It's only been possible in recent years to get a TV slot for anime aimed at 'otaku' clearly defined as a subculture. It wasn't even possible to do this in the 90s, let alone the 70s and 80s. Yamato is an anime otaku classic and an all-time favorite, but it was not made with Otaku in mind.

Azuma did not write/draw Nanako SOS for otaku. The panty shots are not there to be 'otaku pandering', they are there because he was a lolicon artist - a social movement in Japan, not just a simple fetishist.
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Why does Pierrot not make magical girl shows anymore?



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