Hey /a/, what makes a good iyashikei anime, and what makes something qualify as one?
Also, in terms of animu, what does SoL mean exactly?
>Hey /a/, what makes a good iyashikei anime, and what makes something qualify as one?
Rather than explaining, just watch Sketchbook and you'll understand.
Is it worth reading the manga instead?
Ask yourself: Do I feel relaxed and at ease after having watching this show?
If yes, good iyashikei.
If no, bad iyashikei.
Slice of life means moeshit.
Or so they would have you believe.
I don't understand why someone call Ikoku Meiro no Croisée or Mushishi as iyashikei. They are not, are they?
The manga is really great, but I'd say only the anime is iyashikei while the manga is just really funny.
Try Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou if you want an iyashikei manga.
Already read YKK anon, I was asking because I was unsure about the genre and since SoL is a vague term.
If that's the case, Lotte no Omocha is iyashikei for me.
Well for me iyashikei means that the manga/anime that has a lot of scenery porn and scenes where the main character gets time to think, and that way the viewer has enough time to relax too. A lot of shows that don't really give the main characters, or even the viewer, enough time to think seem to be sometimes lauded as iyashikei too, but I don't really agree with that. For me, it definitely needs some sort of introspection thing to qualify.
But yeah, just looking at this thread you can see that they're really vague terms.
It seems that by this definition Blame! is iyashikei.
I kinda thought that after I posted but didn't bother to add that the series obviously have to "heal" too, or make you feel positive things.
Do we even get to know what the characters in Blame really think anyway?
It's SoL if the main character is shit out of luck, luck Touma, who's always facing misfortune. The viewer can commiserate with the main character, and feel better about their own problems after vicariously experiencing those of others.
Actually, it's SoL if it's literally SoL. Is the story about an extraordinary event? Is it about a rise to or fall from glory? No? It's about the everyday lives of the characters, you say? Then it's SoL.
Rather, a series that's designed to give the typical viewer healing and positive feelings. Scenery porn and introspection are good techniques for accomplishing that, so they're common in iyashikei. Individual reactions are going to vary, but you can judge based on effects on broader audiences, in the same way you could judge the technical quality of big boob fanservice even if you only like DFC.
Can we have a list of iyashikei?
And probably Bartender. Also Yotsuba&.
That's all? What about >>100671625
Well the reason why I try to define it more clearly is that most of the times you can just use a bunch of different terms to use the exact same thing, or use some term so broadly it means absolutely nothing anymore.
Also "give healing and positive feelings" is an incredibly vague term. I'm pretty sure people get positive feelings from majority of anime they enjoy. And does getting motivation to do something after watching sports anime or something count as healing?
>watching sports anime or something count as healing?
Iyashikei is first of all SoL. That's why sports and other genres shouldn't been considered.
Also add no-plot, slow pacing in mild tones story teaching people to enjoy living in no-sorrow environment. Something like this.
But >>100675061 mentioned Touma/Index as an example for SoL so I'm not sure what wouldn't count as a SoL if we somehow agree on that.
>no-plot, slow pacing in mild tones story teaching people to enjoy living in no-sorrow environment
Well at least that's a better definition than the previous one. Except Tamayura for example has a "sorrow" element what with Fuu and her father passing away. It's pretty mild in tone though. And the plot, for at least for the OVAs, is about her coming to terms with it.
>I'm not sure what wouldn't count as a SoL if we somehow agree on that.
That part was a joke using Touma as an example of Shit Out of Luck, which isn't what SoL stands for.
So we starting from SoL definition? Let's say, naturalistic storytelling about daily life of someone with perception on events. The main center is feelings and reasoning of characters.
> Except Tamayura for example has a "sorrow" element
With slight amount of sorrow which is considered as healing through pain.
I guess that was just me completely missing his joke. But OP did ask for a definition though.
Azumanga Daioh is occasionally iyashikei. Same goes for Nichijou. I know some people didn't like it, but Tamako Market also had it sometimes. Shows that are purely iyashikei are very rare though (I can only think of YKK and Aria, and maybe Sketchbook).
Oh, I think I could consider Non Non Biyori as much more iyashikei than most series that are put under the label.
Would Natsume Yuujinchou be "healing"?
Seems it could be. And also shirokuma cafe.
I'd vote Mushishi to be added as an interesting example. The atmosphere is overtly dark but it still manages to capture the feeling of iyashikei.
SoL is the easier term to define. It means exactly what it says: slice of Life. Does the anime focus on the average everyday events of the characters lives? It's SoL. For the most perfect exampleof the SoL genre I direct you to Azumanga Daioh, a story about 6 girls going through high school together that focuses on their average everyday lives. You might be tempted to say every anime focuses on the everyday events of all the characters lives and then offer Dragonball Z as an example. I would then be tempted to call you a. obnoxious Socratic piece of shit and refuse to argue semantics with you.
Iyashikei is a specific type of SoL that is very peaceful and calm. It's easier to define it with examples than to try to define the term itself. Aria is the definitive Iyashikei. Hidamari Sketch is another great example. Non Non Biyori is the most recent good example. The thing about iyashikei is that is makes you feel warm and fuzzy and happy inside after watching it, hense the name iyashikei; it "heals" you. Iyashikei is about the feelings it iinvokes in you. THe way they accomplish these feelings can differ, but usually they rely heavily on gorgeous scenery and peaceful soundtracks. Nostalgia can be a big theme as well. For a manga example, look at Yotsubato! Again you might be tempted to argue that something like Madoka makes you feel "healed" by the end of the series and thus offer it as an example, and again I would call you annoying.
The terms aren't that hard to understand, but a lot of people like to troll these sorts of discussions.
>Aria is the definitive Iyashikei
YKK is a better example I would say.
It's definitely a more subjective term than SoL
>YKK is a better example I would say.
I'd say YKK too. It manages to make the end of human civilization something beautiful and sweet.
>Iyashikei is first of all SoL
It doesn't have to be a SoL to be iyashikei, if that's what you're saying.
To be honest I've never seen it, but what I've heard about it makes it seem a little less "healy" and a little more dramatic and melancholic. This is the one with the robot girl who watches everything she loves fade away, right?
Don't forget this little gem.
Also, Mushishi, Windy Tales, Haibane Renmei (debatable).
Give me an example of iyashikei which is not SoL.
I would also say this, because Choro Club is gross and that fucking annoying President cat thing is fucking annoying. YKK is way better than Aria.
Except it isn't. What piece of Leviathan is healing exactly?
It is comedy, adventure and fantasy.
This, it's weird, but despite all the bittersweetness it ends up being incredibly relaxing and warming.
this is why I said it was definitely a more subjective term. i see that as more of a comedy than anything else
>what makes a good iyashikei anime
-A comfy setting
-Gentle characters, lack of conflict, angst, or major drama
-A colour palette which does not visually offend too flashy, or gritty/grim
>koku Meiro no Croisée
I just fail to see why anyone would classify it thus.
>This is the one with the robot girl who watches everything she loves fade away, right?
She's definitely in a sort of witness role but she's not really a outsider. There's other robots as well, all of whom will outlive humanity, though its implied they're not mortal. Its melancholic but not dramatic at all since they'res no real tension. Any attempts to save humanity have already been long ago.
Its really worth reading.
Its actually the first work I ever saw that made me view death as something that isn't inherently ugly and negative.
Why? Yes it is kind of slow and good but it is also gloomy and shows the dark side of human. It doesn't heal anything at all though puryfing.
>It is comedy, adventure and fantasy.
So? Iyashikei isn't a genre.
Just because it's easier to have that soothing, calming atmosphere in SoL's, doesn't mean it has to be a SoL to be healing.
ZBL had plenty of healing, something that was brought up in the threads a few times too.
>shows the dark side of human
And contrasts it with the good side. There are far more good and noble people in Mushishi than bad ones. Yes ometimes things don't end perfectly, but more often than not they end happily. But it's often not a cheap easily obtained "happy end" where all the bad things are gone and undone. Good examples are the episode with the plant children, the Inkstone, the moving swamp, and plenty others. It's not always saccharine, and not always happy either, but the happiness that is obtained just seems all that much more sincere and warming because of that.
>healing through pain
That's an essential element of Iyashikei too.
It's called "mono no aware", a gentle sadness caused by the awareness of the transience of things.
For instance, in YKK, the catastrophe which decimated humanity is never mentioned but it's always visible in the manga and anime in the form of the decaying ruins of the old cities and the overgrown roads.
The fact that it isn't a plot element and it's never mentioned, but still present as a visible element means that you can build a very lighthearted and seemingly superficial story on top of that, which then gets added depth because of the strange atmposphere. That's what YKK does so very well.
Another excellent example is >>100681589
If yo take the first episode, it's nothing but a slow and very simple story about a girl leaving her house and returning. Still, I can't watch it without getting teary-eyed. It's the subtle atmosphere of quiet sadness, the half-hidden secret of the loss of a dear relative that gives it tremendous depth.
I remember starting this ages ago. Thanks for the rec and for reminding me of this, downloading both again now.
So what are the axamples of healing?
Even if there were some, the overall impression of ZBR wasn't soothing and healing.
That way maybe you would call Hourou Musuko as iyashikei? Mild pallette, slow pace and some of the scenes were healing.
You guys should make a chart of iyashikei anime. I would but I can't into making charts.
Considering "mono no aware" should Emma also be added as iyashikei?
As >>100681950 probably acceptabe Ikoku Meiro no Croisée.
This. It needs to be done, its pretty /a/s favorite sun genre based on my observations.
Half the joy is in the discovery
It had cute characters who tried their best, the show didn't force any drama, no over the top comedy, nice backgrounds/scenery (I mean, it was a GONZO show). It focused much on the retarded dragon girls and their developing friendship.
What I'm getting at is just that a show doesn't have to be a SoL to have healing qualities to it. If a show has enough of those qualities, it can be referred to as iyashikei, regardless of genre. Other people have mentioned Mushishi, another good example of non-SoL iyashikei.
And sorry, haven't watched Hourou Musuko yet, but I have the manga in my ever-growing backlog.
Usagi Drop anime should be considered one of the best iyashikei.
>It had cute characters who tried their best
>the show didn't force any drama, no over the top comedy
>It focused much on the retarded dragon girls and their developing friendship.
That pretty much sounds as SoL, you know.
Sure. SoL and iyashikei characteristics are very overlapping, which is why most iyashikei shows are SoLs. I never said this wasn't true. But that doesn't mean being a SoL is a requirement for being called an iyashikei show.
And ZBL isn't a SoL for the simple reason that it had a plot that was about more than following their daily lives. It's an adventure/fantasy/comedy show. That doesn't mean it's not healing.
No one has mentioned Sora no Woto yet?
There's certainly a handful of episodes that are iyahshikei.
Hyouka can certainly reach into that sub category as well, especially in it's finale.