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>ITT: Alucard versus Gutts.
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Ohples.
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>>10066558
>>10066571
What is this, rape victims anonymous?
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Alucard was raped?
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>>10066595

yes..
by a muslim
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Guts vs. Thorkell
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>>10066590
I lol'ed
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>>10066595
>>10066598
'twas vlad though..not that that makes a difference
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>>10066598

WHAT.
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>>10066617

ITS TRUE
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>>10066590
You gonna get raped!
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>>10066622

WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN
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>>10066617
It was a King, if that makes things better.
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>>10066635

GO READ THE MANGA, ITS BEFORE HE FIGHTS ANDERPLANT, IIRC
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>>10066635
AT THE END OF VOLUME 8

SAY IS YOUR CAPSLOCK JAMMED TOO?
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Guts, easily. He has fought worse shit than Alucard. Again it's one of those fights where the characters on on totally different levels of power.

Like the recent Link vs Cloud topic on /v/.
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>>10066635
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>>10066658

Has he fought anything like Alucard?
I mean, the only reason Alucard lost was because of hax.
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>>10066558
alucard

/thread
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Alucard. He'd just let Gutts slice him up until he exhausted himself then just blow his brains out.
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also you can't disprove Gutts with math
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>>10066652
>>10066649

THANK YOU, KIND SIRS. AND YES, MY CAPSLOCK SEEMS TO BE JAMMED, BUT IT'S QUITE ALRIGHT, AS I DO ENJOY CRUISE CONTROL AND BEING COOL
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>>10066679
Zodd, Emperor Ganishka.
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Anderson wins.
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>>10066690
CURSED BLADE MOTHERFUCKER

IT HURTS GODLIKE ENTITIES

EVEN THAT MIST DEMON GOD GOT CUT
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>>10066738
Yes, Emperor Ganishka, like I said.
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>>10066714

He never beat Zodd and was only able to take out a magical projection of Ganiska, and that was only with Zodd's help.
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>>10066754
He could probably beat Zodd and Emperor Ganishka with the Berserk Armor on, if he were to be at full health and stamina of course.
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Griffith VS Haruhi

HEAVEN OR HELL
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>>10066784
Haruhi is god. Haruhi would just get bored of Griffith, and he would simply cease to exist.
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Gutts in a landslide.
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>>10066793
Griffith is a god who specializes in rape. He could rape Haruhi.
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Guts could easily have raped Anderson in a fight; Anderson and Alucard were well matched. Depends on how much hax Alucard is willing to pull out of his arse, though. The Dragonslayer could probably hurt him in a similar manner to Anderson's blessed bayonets.

Alucard could always just shoot him in the face or something though. Guts is fast, but not bullet-dodging haxfast.
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>>10066883
Guts would catch the bullet with his teeth

you know this to be true
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>>10066900

just like alucard
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>>10066900
All Alucard's weapons are cosmoguns that hold a million rounds. He'd run out of teeth eventually.
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>>10066883

>Guts is fast, but not bullet-dodging haxfast.

And that's where you would be wrong, good sir!

Gutts is easily fast enough to dodge bullets. Hell the average human is fast enough to react to supersonic stimuli if they can see it(and aren't scared shitless), and Gutts is clearly above and beyond the average human.
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>>10066926

Yes but, Alucard tends to scare people shitless.
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>>10066948

Lies
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>>10066937

Gutts tends to not get scared shitless. He's attacked what amounts to Gods with reckless abandon.
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Gutts uses Beherit in desperation and

completely kills Alucard

He becomes a Godhand, gay buttsecks with Griffith ensues
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>>10066937

Guts has seen the eclipse and survived it. Alucard wouldn't scare him anymore.
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>>10066926
Depends on the range, and the bullets/gun in question. Seras could blow his brains out with the Harkonnen before he could even blink, but I'll accept that he could do a reasonable job of dodging Alucard's gunfire. I still don't think he'd be able to dodge all of it. Alucard has the equipment advantage in this fight.
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Alucard is basically a walking eclipse.
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>>10066986

Gutts has more or less reached the fictional point of power where exactly what weapon you are using or facing doesn't really matter anymore. It's simply preference.

The same goes for Alucard as well.
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>>10067015

Ding, ding
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>>10067015

Not really. The Eclipse is a manifestation of all the evil in the world mixing with undeniable causality with a dash of demons just for kicks.

Alucard is a monster with a hella bunch of souls.

There is a difference.
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>>10066926 ell the average human is fast enough to react to supersonic stimuli if they can see it
I don't think so Tim
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>>10066986
I don't even think it's a matter of equipment. Alucard himself is FAR deadlier than his guns.
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>>10067208
Alucard himself never showed really impressive strength or speed, the deadliest thing about him is his regenerative ability.
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can somebody post the gentlemen, i like war speech?

preferably in text form, but whatever you got is fine
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>>10067232
And the LEGION of familiars.
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I think someone CRRAAAZZYYY would be able to take both of them down.
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>>10067254
my fingers are itching to post the snapshot collection....but i won't
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>>10067232
He did chew an opponent or two alive.
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>>10067289

WhoEVER are you talking about?

I can't think of somebody STYLISH enough to take them down.
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>>10067274
The legion of familiar didn't do much against Anderson though, they don't really matter.
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>>10067289
That would be a battle too awesome to behold.
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>>10067097
i think gutts is a badass dont get me wrong, but alucard would win hands down. remember that while anderson's blades hurt him, even after being decapitated by it he still regened. as long as theres a pool of blood around alucard can regen as many times as he wants.
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>>10067292
go for it.
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>>10067326
The key of the fight is Guts sword.
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>>10067326

Then Gutts just kills him until all the bloods been used up.

Pretty simple.
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Gentlemen, may I ask the ending theme for the Hellsing OVA 04 ("Das Engellandlied") in good quality? The exact same version would be superb.
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>>10067232
Alucard never demonstrates such attributes, essentially, because he doesn't NEED to. He enjoys taunting his enemies by letting them hit him and then ignoring their feeble attacks. He has a sort of very lazy fighting style. In actually, he's probably at least as fast as any other vampire seen in the series, and some of them have moved pretty fucking fast; he's also definitely at least as strong as Seras, who bends gun barrels with her fingers as light exercise. And those things are actually surprisingly strong.
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>>10067315
It'd be a BLAST-OFF!
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>>10067254

Gentlemen, I like war.

Gentlemen, I love war.

I like genocide. I like blitzkrieg. I like aggressive war. I like defensive war.

I like sieges. I like breaking through. I like withdrawing. I like retreating. I like cleaning up.

In moors. On highways. In trenches. In plains. On tundra. In desert. On sea. In sky. In mud. In marshes.

I love every aspect of war that takes place on this earth.

I like blowing away the enemy with a thunderous roar of a line of guns going off all at once. When an enemy is shot to pieces after being thrown high into the air, my heart dances.
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>>10067369
*actuality
I swear my typing skills have gone to hell recently.
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>>10067391

Do you desire a conflict that stretches the limits of iron, wind, lightning, and fire to the limit, one that will kill all the crows on this planet?

...

Very well...then we shall have krieg.


We used all the strength in our bodies to clench our fists, but for us, who have waited and waited in the depths of darkness for half a century...A mere war is not enough!

It must be a great war!!

A whole-hearted great war!!
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>>10067369
Nothing Guts didn't see before though.
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Millenium's vampire soldiers were dodging machine gun fire in an enclosed corridor like it was nothing, and they're just cannon fodder newfags compared to Alucard. It'd be fair to assume he at least has that kind of speed.
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when he started saying it, i was seriously going to just start fapping right there

excellent
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>>10067406
In an opponent that has thousands and thousands of "extra lives"?
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>>10067406
Everything Guts fights has a definitive weak point - the head. Alucard doesn't really have a weak point. The Dragonslayer could hurt him, but nothing that he couldn't regenerate from; if Guts knew exactly what process he had to use to kill him, he could possibly pull it off if he got lucky; Alucard is likely to simply win by attrition anyway.
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>>10067456

Not really, killing the same guy thousands of times isn't much different from killing thousands of different guys.
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>>10067479

Forgot to add this: Even Alucard will run out of lives eventually. And this is assuming Dragonslayer wouldn't bypass this somehow.
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Guts is a human though, Alucard did say only humans can kill monsters like him.
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>>10066558
Guts wins. His sword became magical by the simple act of killing enough daemons.
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>>10067345
umm, you ARE aware that alucard bleeds when he gets hit right? and you're aware that the berserker armor makes gutts bleed intensly right? there'd be no way to get rid of the blood if it comes back every time he gets hit and increases as the armor takes over gutts
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I'd get them killed, in 40 seconds. Then I'd head to my swimming lessons.
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>>10067514

Oh this is with the Armor on? I thought we were leaving that off.
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Do you really think I can't beat a slimy bunch of eyes?
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>>10067479
>>10067495
Killing Alucard thousands of times is not the same as slaughtering cannon fodder. Killing Alucard a single time wouldn't be easy if he got serious for a change, and what makes you think Guts could keep going for thousands of kills?
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>>10067604

Pretty much, that's more or less his thing.
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>>10067526
What made you think that? For an interesting battle to take place both fighters should be using their most powerful weapons.
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>>10067616

Meh, didn't really think he needed it.
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>>10067612
That's something I can't picture at all in this case.

(I must be pretty fucking hooked on Hellsing right now, I never imagined I'd ever participate in one of these damn threads).
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>>10067669

Yeah, this shit is pure fanboyism on both sides. But it's a good way to get your nerd rage out.

Considering both are presented more or less the same in terms of storyline power, it's purely personal preference.

I simply think that Gutts is about a thousand times more awesome than Alucard.
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>>10067704
Agreed, though I'm particularly ashamed of doing it at the age of 22.
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>>10067639
pssssshbt

Without the armour Guts wouldn't last five minutes. He's not fast enough out of it to pose a threat to Alucard.
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>>10067810

lol no
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>>10066883
Anderson and Alucard weren't well-matched, they just had similar personalities.

OK this is how things would roll. Alucard wants to die, especially by human hands. Therefore, Guts would be the perfect means. He would toy with Guts, give him lots of chances to win, and Guts probably would win because Alucard let him.

But god knows how he'd even do it, and in the end Alucard would probably only be weakened temporarily until can no longer attack.

Could Alucard kill Guts? With enough effort, probably. Therefore, ALUCARD WINS.
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>>10067848
Anderson almost killed Alucard. If he hadn't been distracted and Seras hadn't called Alucard back, none of us would care about cats in boxes right about now.
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>>10067876
Anderson was using the power of something that killed JESUS. You think Gutts would win against motherfucking Jesus? I think not.
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>>10067764
>Anonymous
>I'm particularly ashamed of doing it at the age of 22.
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>>10067345
You don't understand. When Alucard looses blood he just sucks it back up again. You could chop him into 9000 pieces and he's just reconstruct himself.
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>>10067911
My answer is yes, all Alucard had to do was rip his heart out when he got an opening. To be honest, Guts could slice Anderson into tiny pieces and then stomp on all the bits until he got the right one.
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>>10067876
Well, Anderplant was a good match anyway, but up until then Anderson was just a fun toy for Alucard.
Anderplant wasn't human. Guts is.
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>>10067911

Gutts is using a sword than can kill a God. You think Alucard can win against a God!? I think not.
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>>10067928
This is you, /a/! Are you ashamed of looking at yourself in the mirror, /a/?
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>>10067944
That certainly wasn't all he had to do. Again, he essentially staked his heart with the nail that killed Jesus.
I doubt Guts sword is THAT powerful.
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This thread is now hilarious.
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If Alucard didn't have his guns he'd lose, since Guts is mostly a somewhat normal human, getting hurt by things that hurt humans. Guts would easily crush Anderson, who has a chance against Alucard because he doesn't die from bullets. But since Alucard has guns, Guts is dead meat.
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>>10068010

This is Manga. Swords > Guns

>>10067977

Supposedly, Dragonslayer can kill beings who have control over causality. Meaning when an omnipotent being gets cut and tries to make it so it cannot or does not happen, Dragonslayer goes "lolno" and fucks their shit up anyway.
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>>10067523
GTFO Kira, you don't even know Alucard's real name.
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Guts with all his extra shit and his things that give him extra strength at all these costs put him beyond being a human. Like Alucard with Anderson, this would make Alucard quit seeing him as a human and completely go ABLAHALHSABLRGH! But if Guts remained human and Alucard knew about his quest and whatnot, he's probably allow himself to die and somehow bestow strength to Guts so he could assrape more than any of us could possibly imagine. Or something like that.
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>>10068010
ALUCARD IS MORE THAN JUST A PAIR OF GUNS
watch the goddamed OVA or read the manga already
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>>10068107
I have, but against Guts that doesn't do shit. You should read the Berserk manga. All his super vampire powers are meaningless against Guts.
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>>10068077

Guts is never on the giving end of assrape.
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>>10068199
Wanton destruction then. Whatever he feels like really at that point. I just figured he might like to indulge a bit.
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ITT we see that the number of people who have read both the Alucard manga and the Berserk manga is zero.

Are there no scanlations around, or what?
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I've got to say that I'm a huge fan of both series. I've read all 33+ volumes of Berserk 3 times. I've read all of the 10 volumes of Hellsing several times as well. I can't really decide which series I like more, and I've contemplated this scenario a lot.

Neither really wins. Guts could only temporarily disable Alucard at best, long enough to survive. Otherwise, neither could really kill the other no matter how hard they tried.

The thing is, Alucard fights a literal army of 1000 vampires plus a guy whose essentially Christ incarnate, and even that doesn't really phase him. Would Guts even come close to that?
Alucard is a walking army of at *least* 1 billion souls, including weapons and animals. Many of these souls are demons of some form themselves.
I would suspect Guts has probably killed a few tens of thousands of small demons by now, but never all at once. He's taken out a few weak Apostles who still don't hold a candle to Alucard, and they weren't easily defeated.
So no, Guts isn't strong enough here.
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>>10068306
anyway I have to go, got shit to do besides this
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>>10068306
Weak apostles? You're calling the dragon-apostle weak? Oh my.
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>>10068306

Weak? You must be joking nigger.
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>>10068329

He never took the Dragon apostle out. He damaged his armour, thats all. And he was completely fucked up, on the verge of death even after only doing that.
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>>10068329
>>10068372
In comparison to Alucard, fuck yes.
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>>10068398

I suppose you think that Alucard could do better?
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What about Dio vs Alucard?
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>>10068444

Dio.
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>>10068444
Dio
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>>10068433

Never said he would, but the ability to crack the strongest armour on the planet means fuck all to a being who can regenerate almost indefinatley.
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>>10068433
Alucard would let Dragonbitch blat him a couple of times just to see the expression on the fucker's face when he keeps reforming himself and then shoot his eyes out or something. Alucard's regenerative ability means he's under essentially no pressure in such a fight, and has as long as he wants to figure out how to kill the bastard.
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>>10068444
Dio would crush Alucard between his delicious nachas.
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>>10068505

I'm actually pondering if Alucard can regenerate as effectively from the properties of a Dragonslayer induced cut. Seeing as how it fucks with the way the universe works on a small scale.
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>>10066926
from what ive seen of Alucard he likes up close gunplay.
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>>10068539
More like Grunwald slaps Alucard into a pile of goo everytime he forms. This happens a few times until he leaves the place out of boredom as Alucard can't do shit to him.
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He can beat Alucard :D Alucard absorbs Schrödinger and dies over the parodox that he is everywhere and nowhere at the same time.
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>>10068552
I think pretty much everyone so far has been operating under the assumption that the Dragonslayer would affect Alucard similarly to Anderson's blessed bayonets, which do actually damage him such that he can't just go "lol I'm fine again" half a second later, but not such that he can't still regenerate in fairly short order.

What it does probably come down to is that Guts could slice Alucard into little pieces and it'd take him a while to reform, but wouldn't be able to permanently kill him like that.
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>>10068593
Pssh, Alucard can dodge. He's faster than Dragonfag's hammer. Or he could always deform anyway, good luck blatting a giant amorphous shadow made of eyes and teeth
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Oh hey, is this a power level thread?
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>>10068615

I find it hard to believe that something that could kill the God Hand is merely a speed bump for Alucard.
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>>10068615
that's basically what I've been saying. He could only temporarily win, possibly long enough to GTFO.
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>>10068591
Catboys can kill Alucard. Wow.
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>>10068643
Look, he can't kill the Godhand. He impales Slan right through the ovaries and she orgasms.
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>>10068664
Yeah, catboys who DEFY ALL LAWS OF QUANTUM PHYSICS
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>>10068643
If you mean Slann, it's not like she was at perfect shape or trying to avoid being killed.

>>10068640
Apostle-form of course. He's really fast in as a dragon and effectively invulnerable. Also breathes fire.
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>>10068666

Not her real body, IIRC.
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>>10068672
He's not invulnerable, Guts dents him. Dent him enough, he dies. He didn't appear to be that fast as a dragon, and if Guts could land solid hits so could Alucard.
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>>10068710

Also the fact she was touched at all is what is amazing. Each God Hand has a retarded control of reality. Gutts touching them or any of their proxies is a gigantic feat.
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>>10067391
OH SHIT!!!!
SHOGUN!!!
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>>10068672
Remember the eclipse where the Skullknight attacks the Godhand (forget the name of the one with the brain) and he creates a physics-defying klein object to block his attack?
That's what it takes to take out the Apostles, defying laws of physics. Guts sword can't fucking do that.

However, the Skull Knight later creates a sword from behelits that Does defy all laws of physics. $50 says that kills the Godhand at some point.
If it was Alucard VS Skullknight, I'd easily go with SkullKnight on that one. The guy can defy laws of physics, Alucard's only weakness.
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>>10068735
She WANTED him to touch her. That wasn't so hard to do.
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>>10068751
What? NO!
PIC RELATED
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>>10068769

Maybe, but that isn't the point.

God Hand rapes both of them.

Dragonslayer > Alucards Regen
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>>10068738
Void, nigga.
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>>10068797
Sure the Dragonslayer can take out some demons, but Alucard isn't just some demon.

I could fanboy about this forever. Actually.....fangirl....if you'll believe it.
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Could anybody direct me to the page where these causality defying abilities of the Dragon Slayer are explained?
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>>10068832

Alucard is a monster. A VERY powerful monster, but nothing special as far as Dragonslayer is concerned.
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>>10068834


They aren't really. They say it's cursed, and that's why it can kill demons.

That's it.
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>>10068832
lol, women just can't help telling everyone their gender over the internet.
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>>10068874

And this is the entire basis for the argument against Alucard?
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>>10068893

That and Gutts being incredibly awesome on an epic scale.

Yeah. Supposedly, most Apostles can do that whole regenerate crap but Dragonslayer slaps that shit down.
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>>10068853
Can't agree with you there. Would a mere monster absorb the souls of demons? No. A monster is usually something mortal. I don't really know why he calls himself one, probably because he gets called that a lot.

Anyhow I g2g again, I'll resume later if there's more to say.
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Vampires are well known for being charismatic as such alucard would be able to rely on the other demons, or hellsing depending on the time period.

Guts is a loner. Guts would get fucked up whilst alucard n griffith take turns on his woman.
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guts is a hero. He's goku, he's hercules, he's cloud. He fights, and always seems to win. He's really fucking powerful. BUT. He puts in effort. The entire point of Alucard is that he never puts in any effort. His limit is an utter variable that cannot be speculated, but must be ridiculously high.
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>>10068876
it sounded weird saying fanboy, I had to represent.
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>>10068910
alucard's a loner, he fights any other monsters/demons he meets
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>>10068941
Too bad he's dead now. Major>>>Alucard.
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>>10068738
Alucard is defeated by someone called Schrodinger and, suddenly, he's vulnerable to "physics". If he was defeated by someone called, say, Rowling, he'd be vulnerable to "literature"?
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The Dragonslayer is, essentially, tempered in the blood of so many Apostles that it's a demonbane weapon.

Personally I can't help but look at it from a DnD perspective - Dragonslayer voids damage reduction. So did Anderson's bayonets. Alucard HAS damage reduction, but also regeneration.

I dunno, maybe it could be modelled by giving Alucard a regeneration/fast healing combo instead. His regen is insane, but damage given by, for example, the blessed bayonets or the Dragonslayer are nonregenerable. They're still subject to the fast healing, which is slower.
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>>10068977
He used physics to kill him. How do you kill with literature?
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>>10068913

If you're saying it's because he absorbs Demons power, that's what makes Dragonslayer so powerful. Each time it kills a demon, the curse on it gets stronger and it can fuck even larger shit up.

So, it's about the same to Gutts in the end. Alucard is an Apostle to Gutts. A pretty strong one, though, but not out of his league.
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>>10068959
I have a theory regarding that.
He does it because life is more interesting that way.
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I have to say this just once.

magic =/= blessed

If anything, Dragonslayer would be an abhorrently evil and corrupt entity, wouldn't you think?
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>>10068985

http://6createdangels.webs.com

Read that. You'll feel the pain.
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Skullknight would win.
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wasnt the whole Schrodingers cat thing more about probability than physics?
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>>10069044

Quantum Physics.
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>>10068989
He does it out of a sort of professional pride, really. He doesn't like power being granted to those he doesn't consider worthy of it and that misuse their abilities.
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>>10069029

Eh, who knows? It seems to hurt beings that thrive on that sort of thing just fine.
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>>10068985
No, he used pseudo scientific crap to kill him. You're just too used to being fed with such crap that you just don't notice it anymore. Schrödinger's cat exists within the restricted realm of Quantum Physics. When you take it out of that context, it's at most a philosophical question or, more often than not, mass-feeding bullshit.
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>>10069029
I think it's just easier to think of it as a sword whose meaning is to slay apostles/monsters. That's just what it does.
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>>10069096
I'm speaking about vampires specifically. He isn't hurt by "magic," he's hurt by faith, Christian things, blessed items, etc. Also, what are Guts' capabilities in the water? If he could somehow use water to his advantage I could see the fight going easier for him.
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>>10069127
So basically Schrödinger used Confuse Ray and it was super effective?
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>>10069070
personally i think the results of the experiment were more to do with epistemology/philosophy than anything else.
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Nanaya Shiki would stroll in and totally kill Alucard, Guts and Griffith at the same time.

then he would rape the maids.
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>>10069139
He fought pretty damn well against that DURKA DURKA sorcerer bloke in the ocean, so...
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Also, fucking up Alucard's coffin.
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>>10069139

Hutts seems to be pretty kickass everywhere. It is his Manga after all.

Secondly most Apostles would count as Vampires as they feast on human blood and flesh almost exclusively. Faith doesn't seem to really have a presence in the Berserk world.
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>>10069192

Gutts seems to be pretty kickass everywhere. It is his Manga after all.

Secondly most Apostles would count as Vampires as they feast on human blood and flesh almost exclusively. Faith doesn't seem to really have a presence in the Berserk world.
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>>10069165

The sorcerer wasn't a being whose soul weakness (other than quantum physics) seems to be the Catholic faith though.
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You are all looking at this from a human vs vampire perspective. Guts isnt a normal human any more. The Brand forces him to live on the border of the human world and the demon/death world, as such it isnt realy a point about how strong he can hit with the Dragonslayer but that he hits on another spiritual plane. The Demonslayer would hit Alucards essence his soul thus making his regenerative abilities void.
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>>10069127
In context, Killing Alucard is like defeating anti-spirals with a giant drill of energy made from Quantumly Dividing a Ganmen. It's that epic
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>>10069156
Nanaya Shiki could kill Alucard if Alucard wasn't expecting it, or didn't know about Shiki's abilities, simply cause it's in his nature to let people get a few hits in before he rapes their minds. In a FAIR fight, Alucard would rape N. Shiki. Dude's fast, but Alucard is way faster.

Similar situation for Guts, really.
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>>10069214

I forgot about that.

Good point.
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>>10069156
Then Skullknight would kill Shiki for being an arse.
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>>10069192
Vampires are defined by faaaar more than simply drinking blood. They're defined by an entire mythos that Guts could potentially take advantage of if he was informed ahead of time. Although this could go both ways allowing Alucard to be wary of things that he needs to be wary of.
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>>10069214

Alucrads regeneration comes from the fact that his body is comprised of millions of sould though. Unless the Dragon Slayer cuts through all these souls at once, Alucards regenration should still work.
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>>10069214
because you want that to happen right?
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>>10069139
Why would water help him at all? I mean, Alucard can't cross oceans more because his mode of transportation requires moving over physical things, not because he melts or something.
I mean, if Guts is on an island Alucard can't reach him, but if Alucard took a ship he could just get there anyway.
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>>10069232
vampires are naturally weak vs water.
thats about all i know regarding alucard.
i doubt hed be that much phased, since he critically fucked up the ship he was standing on IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN
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>>10069232
I mean putting him IN water. flooding an area, forcing him INTO a body of water, etc.
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SIMON! TAKE IT!!!
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>>10069257
Exactly. Souls are astral.
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>>10069257

Dragonslayer is pretty badass. It might just do that.
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>>10069257
No, his regeneration comes from that fact he's a fucking weaponised vampire. His repeated failure to die in the face of traditional vampire-slaying standbys such as staking the heart, cutting off the head, etc. are the result of the souls.

Possibly. It's not even canonically established if Anderson was correct or not.
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QUICK HELLSING QUESTION

I stopped reading the manga just when they showed Walter becoming a traitor

which chapter should I start to get into it again?
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>>10069231
Here, have a chart.
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Guts wins, for a variety of reasons.
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>>10069304
The one you stopped at, you dumb failure
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>>10069302

Ah, my mistake, sorry.
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>>10069328
hurr hurr me am so witty XD
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What are the limits on Alucard's familiar deployment? One at a time? All at once? A handful? I'm not entirely up to date on how they function exactly.
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>>10069304
Just start at the beginning of volume 9
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>>10069257
So you are saying Alucard is the Borg? Alucard has a almost endles river of souls in him but as we have seen once he releases them all he is just one soul. Or are you saying after that after you kill his original souls some xyz - arab soul takes over?
>>10069231
Guts already pierced a apsolutly spiritual entity, Ganishkas fog form. He is floating ever deeper into the spiritual realm. I dont think the dragonslyer would instant kill Alucard but he definetly could just shrug it off.
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Just watched a Berserk AMV to get an idea of who this Gutts faggot is.

LOL @ all you morons who think some faggot from the middle ages can take on someone like Alucard.
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>>10069371
lawl
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>>10069371
>AMV

read the manga idort
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>>10069371
And from what period is Alucard originaly. Mr. Dumbfuck.
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>>10069371
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>>10069371
obvious troll is obvious, try again, do not pass GO, do not collect 200 internets
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>>10069371
I LOL'd.
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>>10069368
He can and does release them all at once, more or less. He releases them like a giant ocean of souls. They pour out of him.
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I dont noe guys but if alucard wants to die I think Guts could probably beat him. thats if he wantts to die. But Alucard is basically invincible and could destroy the same kind of powerful creatures as himself such as anderson. When anderson poked himself with the Nail. If Guts could stand up to a man like Alucard. If somehow he is righteous enough to kill Alucard just like Abraham Hellsing then probably. It just depends usually
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>>10069428

Doesn't matter what period he's from, asswipe. The experiments done to him by the Hellsing family along with the power of his modern guns would greatly overwhelm some fucktard who just runs around SLASHAN.
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>>10069459
Are they just a legion of OMNOMNOM or do they retain any part of their original selves/powers/etc?
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Well, i'm a Gutts fan but on the other hand, a fan of the real-life Vlad Tepes.

I think Gutts would win because he really wants it. He only has 1 life and just can't afford to die because he has a goal. Plus he only wants to fight against demons that are way stronger than himself.

Really just depends on fanboyism. Back in my DBZ days, Goku either would've killed both with his little finger or just blew up the earth.
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I think Guts is really a badass ,but Alucard i feel he is kind of like god ,because of the lives he taken. He was kiled by scochdger because he pretty much haxes. I think if Alucard wants to fight then Gutts would get ripped apart.
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>>10069465
Ok if you want to talk with just stupid fanboyism backing your statement.

ZOMG BERSERKRZ SRMORZ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BULLETS
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How about Alucard vs certain tentacle god?
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Alucard spelled backward is draculA
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>>10069563
not even alucard. sorry.
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Alright I have to head out now, but fuck you guys.

Everyone ITT who believes some raging homosexual with a broadsword can take on one of the most powerful fictional characters ever is TREMENDOUS FAGGOT.

Seras Victoria would wipe the floor with Gutts. She'd snap his roided body in half with her massive thighs.

Fuck you and /thread.
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>>10069582

Guts spelled backwards is stuG.
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>>10069603
>Seras Victoria would wipe the floor with Gutts. She'd snap his roided body in half with her massive thighs.

mmmmmmm Doujin of that plz
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This is a bit ridiculous.

Any vampire in Hellsing has infinite power and is only susceptible to plot bullets.
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>>10069563
That'd be fucking awesome.
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>Seras Victoria would wipe the floor with Gutts. She'd snap his roided body in half with her massive thighs.

Oh god, I'm laughing so hard it fucking hurts! It's hard to do that and fap to the same idea at the same time, but fuck if I'm not trying!

Still lol-ing you bastard!
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>>10069603
Well those are some of the best arguments i have ever heard. The thing is we alredy had a similar battle with guts. A entity with no physical mass (no use cuting ti) vs The Dragonslayer. And the Dragonslayer managed to hurt it. Its not about cuting Alucard up its about killing him on a spiritual plane.
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>>10069629
SAUCE!
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>>10069656
It works cause seras is known to go for the "toughguy" type
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>>10069603
Massive thighs <3
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>>10066558

If Alucard sees Gutts as a human (and man enough) he MIGHT let him kill him for good. Alucard honestly wants to die but only on his own terms. It's not a matter of power it's a matter of being enough of a man to kill a monster without becoming one yourself.

If he sees Gutts as a monster, he'll just kill him.
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Guts has the inhuman, nearly flawless fighting instinct to be capable of striking Alucard. And, he would actually hurt/kill Alucard because of the Dragonslayer's acquired supernatural power. Guts wouldn't even have to go Beast mode, but doing so would guarantee victory. Lastly, Guts is expert in recognizing and exploiting the weaknesses of his foes...he's the Batman of the manga world.
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>>10069670
Hey hey whoa whoa! Spiritual plane? Like where your spirit/soul is, right? Alucard is already dead. The only things of his that exist on the spiritual plane are his familiars. His death can only come about by physical destruction as he has no other existence.
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>>10069692
Massive thighs ♥
(now I REALLY felt it)
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>>10069686
See
>>10068077

We've still managed to argue this far.
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>>10069741
Actually, on that note, Batman vs Guts. Who wins? Now that would be epic.
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>>10069768
Batman, of course.
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>>10069723
You are saying in a Manga with Vampires/Sacred Bayonets/A Nail from the cruxifiction of Jesus there is no spiritual plane? No Soul(or whatever you like to call it)?
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GUTS WOULD WIN. WHY?

Simple. Alucard WANTS to be beaten by a human.

and who's the most badass deserving monster slaying motherfucker around? that's right, Guts.
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>>10069741
>Guts wouldn't even have to go Beast mode

it's called Berserker mode you furfag
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>>10069813
He's dead. He is a walking corpse! A NO-LIFE KING!

If he does have a soul or any sort of spiritual existence, it would reside in his coffin.
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>>10069877
actually, it's not called ANY 'mode', dumbfuck. The armor is named the Berserker's armor but the Beast is what consumes his psyche when using it.
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>>10069813
And I wasn't saying the Hellsing universe doesn't have a spiritual plane, I'm saying Alucard himself doesn't exist in it. At least not in the normal way.
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We don't know yet how strong Guts will become in the next volumes.

Many people thought that Goku was one bad motherfucker before Vegeta came to earth. Then came SJ, SSJ up to stage 4 and people like Broly....

Maybe he'll find a wristband or charm that will make him stronger like the Berserker Armor. Or maybe he learns to use the Armor without getting hurt.
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This is like the "Samurai vs Knight" thread
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>>10069723
Schrödinger
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>>10069911
So Alucard is just a heap of bloody goo walking around with no soul/mind/essence? He has to have some kind of spiritual substance. And if you say that essence is in his coffin that the point of the discusion is if Alucard could stop Guts before he smashes the coffin.
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>>10069928
He'll probably undergo some sort of leveling up once they get to Elfheim. But, he'll likely have to abandon the armor or end up like Skullknight.
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>>10070024
Yeah. Killed him due to completely fucking with PHYSICAL laws. Or complete and total lack thereof rather.

>>10070014
Pretty much. Alucard would kill people for so much as looking sideways at his coffin.
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>>10070075
If it happened in the Physical plain of the Hellsing Universe, it's considered Physical. Therefore spiritual is not the only thing to kill Alucard.
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>>10070112
/thread
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>>10070075
If the coffin hypothesis stands then i can usher doubt that Alucard could take out guts before he takes out the coffin. Guts is on par with Alucard on reflex and speed issues, as seen from the Grunbeld fight. A one on one fight is one thing but fighting guts + protecting his coffin is another thing.
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GOOD FRIAR, WHAT SAY YOU?
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lol thread

guts would only win if alucard let him, which he seems likely to do being the emo faggot that he is. dragonslayer has no special powers.
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>>10070179
Did you actually read the thread or just came here with your blind fanboyism backing your statement.
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Ignoring all this stupidity, I do fell the coffin issue needs to be made clear. His coffin is where he rests, it's not the source of his powers. It contains the soil from Romania, his homeland. It's where he sleeps daily, he can't sleep anywhere else.
I imagine destroying it would turn him into an insomniac until he returned to Romania, but otherwise it wouldn't hurt him too badly.

And...you know...his coffin grows legs and runs away. Seriously.
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gutts would fuck alucard in the ass then shoot him in the face with his handcannon as he's cumming.



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