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Why Kill La Kill failed to save anime?
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Because KyoAni have already done that.
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Bland characters
Repetitive jokes (and jokes are bad)
Poor animation
No plot
Shitty OST (yo nigga check out my rap shit)
Bad designs
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It wasn't meant to save it in the first place. The faggots just made you think this way.
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Save anime from WHAT, actually?
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>>100656329
From moe corruption
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>>100656329
From that shitty joke, perhaps?
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KLK failed to save anime because it's already been saved.
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Mako is shit and ruined it
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>>100656359
So, nothing at all? This "saving" anime meme has got to be the unfunniest gimmick the internet has ever concocted.
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>>100656391

Mako is the best character in KLK.
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>>100656359

but there's plenty of manface for faggots like you to enjoy
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Action anime with a MC being a fucking woman.
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>>100656388
Of course.
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>>100656329
from shonen and moe shit cuz what I like is better than what others like
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>>100656424
Girls make the best mcs.
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>>100656424
Do you comb your neckbeard, or just trim it to keep it reasonable?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUyBFPGAsGs

> Not listening to based rog president of these united states.
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Nudist Beach is going to save anime, just wait for sensei to strike
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>>100656359
But Kill La Kill is plenty moe.

She might not have saved anime but she saved my heart.
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>>100656329
>Save anime from WHAT, actually?
From all of this...shit.
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It's worse than Gurren Lagann and that didn't save anime, so why did people expect it to?
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>next episode: Satsuki-sama beats Ryouuko again.

Wow, so new and exciting, it's not something I've seen ~3 times already in KLK.
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>>100656611
Yowamushi Pedal was alright. Rest of the season was weak as fuck though.
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>>100656611
>Blazblue Alter Memory

You're giving me PTSD flashbacks here.
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>>100656722
What's the matter, can't handle AOTY 2013?
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>>100656683
Boy if it wasn't, my favourite anime was Walkure Romanze.
Nagi no etc. isn't bad either, but I', watching it now.
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>>100656611
>itsfuckingnothing.wmv
Please.
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The only thing KlK saved was budget.
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The expectations were too high.

People wanted to see TTGL.
People got some cheap shit with bad characters, sad comedy and poor animation.

RIP, GAINAX.
Nothing will bring us back FLCL, TTGL, NGE, GUN/DIEBUSTER.
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Because it was terrible and raidbots kept flooding /a/ with threads about it
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>>100656804
>The only thing KlK saved was budget.
Saving it for LWA
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>>100656202
because it sucked?
dropped it after the 3rd episode
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>>100656804
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Female MC
Shit animation
Boring and repetitive scenes
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>>100656861
Don't delude yourself anon.
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>>100656611
So KLK is trying to destroy anime?
because half of those show are better than KLK
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>>100656870
>It didn't live up to an impossible hype /a/ and other boards/ sites created
And this is why you people will never like anything.
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>>100656824

Take off your nostalgia glasses. KLK has better characters than TTGL and it's much funnier.
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>>100656202

>too fanservise with retarded animation
>shitty plot
>retard and ugly girls
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>>100656911
It's also why I end up liking shitty anime and shorts more than things I hype.
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>>100656804

KLK is so stylish that it makes up for the animation.
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It wasn't supposed to be good, that's the whole point
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>>100656906
>Don't delude yourself anon.
B-But Kickstarter and money from KLK...They are going to use it for LWA, r-right?
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>>100656949
No it doesn't.
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>>100656912
>Take off your nostalgia glasses. KLK has better characters than TTGL and it's much funnier.
0/10.

I rewatched TTGL 2 months ago, shed manly tears and tears of joy. Characters are vastly superior than characters from Kill La Grill.
Rossiu, Kamina, Kittan, Yoko, Simon, Lord Genome, Viral are incredible.

Compare them with clowns from KLK and it's not even funny anymore.
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Because of obvious communist propaganda
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It's worse than Naruto, I wonder if the people watching it realize that?
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Nui threw everything off course. All the buildup fell through, and that required exposition, which necessarily fucked up the pacing. Nudist Beach still hasn't done anything of consequence, so their presence during the tournament bit was unnecessary. And the Nagita/Nui episode was 22 minutes of antagonizing someone that's already been well antagonized and setting up a plot line that's nearly completed in the very next episode--again, poor pacing. Nui's powers simply make things so unbalanced that it staggers suspension of disbelief.

So it's all Nui's fault. And that's what I'm sticking with. Every episode without her presence is just more fun, better paced, better balanced (weird to say for this series), and more interesting.
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>>100656949
>animation.
KLK fails to top THIS animation.
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>>100657059
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>>100656912
Ryuuko is a fucking boring Mary Sue and basically just used for fanservice. I can't relate to her at all. And don't say Yoko is the same because she's not the main character, there's a big difference.

Mako is alright, though.
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>>100656202
It didn't.
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>>100657064
>Episodes without her are better paced
>Episode 14

Kill La Kill is bad because it tries to cover up the fact that it's incredibly cliched and generic by trying to say that it's making fun of those cliches. It's more like you're just saying you're aware this anime is shit and not that it's good because it's taking the piss off of those cliches.
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This anime has honestly changed my life.

I went into it not expecting much, considering that was hyped to shit. Holy fucking shit, was I blown away. I was hooked, like a baby to a tit with creamy foamy milk. I could feel the energy and hype flowing through my body, bringing light to my dull life. I resonated with Ryuko. I could feel her struggle and her desire to surpass her limitations, something that struck me hard. Everything suddenly stopped when I heard the words:

DON'T LOSE YOUR WAAAAAYYYYYYYYY

and I started trembling. That was me, I feel like I've been "losing my way" these past years. I haven't been able to hold a steady job, my grades were starting to slip, and my parents suspect that I'm gay. It was right then and there that I knew that I had to get my shit together. I can't think of any other anime that has had such a profound effect on me, let alone on the first episode. Tomorrow, I'm going to be a better man. Thank you, Kill la Kill, thank you Trigger.

I won't lose my way.
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>>100657065
Kyoani are masters of animation, you can't expect other studios to do better than them.
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>>100657148

Too bad their designs are generic and boring. I'll take Trigger's art and animation over KyoAni any day.
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Because anime is beyond saving... and must be allowed to die.
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>>100657143
>I'm going to quote you and then criticize something entirely different from what you said.

I disagree and believe you're simply looking for reasons to talk out of your ass.
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>>100656525
<3
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>>100657148
>Kyoani are masters of animation, you can't expect other studios to do better than them.
I.G and Ufotable shit on Kyoanus.
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>>100656722
>james avery voiced him

;_;
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>>100657210
Please, I.G. can't even schedule their TV productions for shit.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq2UuW8G1K8
>perfectly fine singer
>perfectly fine melody
>goes well
>goes well
>RAP YO NIGGA IN DA HOOD SUP FELLAS THUG LIFE IS YO GAME YOLO SWAG

W
H
Y
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>>100657144
Nice blog faggot or is this a copypaste because i want it to be. Also I remember /a/ was shitting on it and trolling it by saying it will save anime. Newfags believed this and started to get hype.
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>>100657199
You said episodes without Nui are better paced, episode 14 is horribly paced, the entire show is horrible paced. Nui didn't ruin KLK, it was already shit before.

It's incredibly cliched and generic, you can tell what they're going to do episodes before they actually do it and it's just boring as fuck. Ryuuko might as well not have lost Senketsu because he's already back, it was just a stupid reason for her to get another powerup. Satsuki is an unbelievably retarded generic shonen villian.
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>>100656611
>hajime
>shit
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>>100657271
It's copypasta.
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>>100657225
>Please, I.G. can't even schedule their TV productions for shit.
So what?
They have insanely good animated titles.
SAC is still so fucking good, nothing can beat it in 2013.
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Because Before My Body Is Dry was shit.
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>>100657318
SAC, particularly the first season was wildly inconsistent in its animation. 2nd gig looked fairly good though, particularly the episodes where Nishio was animation director. I wouldn't say it's the best-animated TV anime there is though, it's not consistent enough in its animation.
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>>100657266
The rapping wasn't that bad, it only lasted like 20 seconds. Besides, there's better songs on the OST than Before my Body is Dry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7crFN6DkLg
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there are 5 threads up you fags. Stop being cancer
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>>100657266
I think it was supposed to be a throwback to ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH!

They failed miserably.
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>>100657434
And it's not even Thursday yet.
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Nui saved KLK.
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>>100657419
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7crFN6DkLg

This song was failed SUPER FUCKING HARD.

OHOOOOHOHOHOHO HOW HARD IT SUCKED ASS.

I was really impressed to see SHIPPU episode when this song kicked in. It was fucking good.
But full version of this song ruined everything.

EVERYTHING
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>>100656912
You know, as someone who pretty much don't like TTGL, I find it ten miles better then KLK.
Why?
1.It has emotionally touching side, the very important for the very hot-blooded emotional show.
2.The story is mixed silly stuff with serious stuff enough to the point where you can actually take things on some point seriouss enough, but not so that you would wonder "why even bother".
3.Story actually has meaning, it's not that it's super deep, no, it's quite opposite, but it's actually make the whole thing reasonable.
Now, KLK has none of it.
For some reason, when I think about something that is both fun and yet awesome with action and stuff, I think about OPM, I guess this is what actually ironic show would be, but you know, manga manage to be more creative with action, ironic/comedy manga, than anime original from people who known for "crazy stuff".
I think this is enough to put KLK into corner of total failure.
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>>100657505
Fuck off leloch u shitter 3kmmr
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>>100657566
At least his Kunkka looks nice.
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>>100657182
>Too bad their designs are generic and boring
Too bad trigger has a boner for them.
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because no english dub

>inb4 mad weeaboos
fuck you
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sometimes i wonder why i still come back here
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>>100657650
It'll probably get one. It'll be worse though because they won't get someone to capture Ryuuko or Satsuki properly
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KLK seems to be missing a proper red line.
It is, to put it simply, too straight forward.
Almost every episode the hype is for things that COULD happen, but then don't.
Episodes were at their best when they were unique. Episode 4 was funny slapstick. Tsugumu episode was fun because Tsugumu was introduced. Mako episode was fun because Mako antics.

The problem always comes when episode is just about fighting one guy. Tournament episodes were worst of it.
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Because Mako.
Considering how stuff loved her and admit that they changed a lot of things because of her, i'm gonna blame her.
Because Imaishi, he's a fucking manchildren, does he has anything on mind outside of the same shit he is obsessed with?
And because no matter what happend IT DOESN'T MATTER, it's never cross the line and do something out of proportion, the biggest irony of the show since it's made by the people who are known for making CURAHZY shows.
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who kill mah dah
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>>100657881
English mother fucker
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>>100657004
This must be on purpose.
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>>100658000
Holy shit
I could read that

Fuck yeah, daily japanese threads.
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>>100658000
These two set off my size difference fetish like a god damn high rise fire.
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>>100657703
Tsugumu is where I thought, OH SHIT IS GETTING REAl, same goes for Mako, but as you said it's ended with fucking NOTHING.
It's drives me crazy when I think what kind of crazy shit could happend, so much can be done, yet nothing so far that would be anywhere on HOLY SHIT level.
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>>100658083
Considering she's only about as tall as his midriff and his fore-arms are thicker than her entire body, I'm having difficulty even seeing them in a pairing.

He'd split her in half, literally.
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>>100658047
GLORIOUS /int/ IS UNDER SIEGE BROTHER

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO PUSH BACK THE JANITOR?
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>>100658000
Nice trips.

Also, is there such a thing as male tsundere?
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>>100658123
She runs on looney toons physics, she can take it
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>>100658136
Sasuga Trigger

Stasuka-sama is glorious
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>>100658183
But I don't even go to /int/. :I
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Because anime was meant to be saved by WuG.
KLK = Kamina
Yamakan = Simon
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KIll la Kill is like an ouroboros in its intent to show what a joke anime is.

Irony is the most hollow and self defeating form of artistic argument.
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>>100657419
The rapping by itself is fine. Them trying to splice the rapping and singing together sounds forced and unpleasant, though.
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>>100658591
Rapping is never 'fine'.
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>>100658877
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-6CrK6deWo
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>>100658877
It can be alright when done in moderation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wzXxTQeq58
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>>100658451
>WuG
>generic pondering: the anime for virgin losers
>saving anything
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>>100658423
>daily japanese threads
>doesn't go to /int/

Fag
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I like KlaK
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>>100656611
>Nagi no Asukara
Fuck you
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>>100656202
because THE FANBASE FUCKING SHIT and dont deserve to be saved.

look how good show do this season again:
space dandy ??

first show = a loli + moe show

you deserve to stay in this shit.....fucking otaku
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>>100659227
I like Lay Back:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhP5XJUwKyY
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>>100659742
But I like languages, not the countries and people that speak them.
In fact, I just dislike people in general, but linguistic studies is my fetish.
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>>100658136
>Ragyo tapped this every day in the last 18 years
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it's a style over substance anime with no style

a mindless fun show that isn't fun
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>tfw you got bored of the show and stopped watching, but still come to /a/ to post in the threads
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>>100656290
Kill la kill yourself
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>>100659875
Go back to being buttfucked by Russia, slav-kun.
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>>100656202
it didnt
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KLK is fucking terrible
Are you guys forcing yourselves to like it cause I seriously don't get it
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>>100656202
Because it kept to be a goofy badly-drawn cartoon after 4th episode.
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>>100660777
I hate it. My friend likes it so much I stopped being friends with him. The only reason I'm watching it is so on the future when people talk about KLK like they do with toradora or lucky star I can say that I was watching it while it aired or whatever
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>>100660987
You sound like a pretty horrible person.
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>>100660987
people like you wonder why they are so alone
get that noose ready bud
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>>100658877
>Rapping is never 'fine'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3fZ8LXNs_E

Is there someone who can honestly dislike Samurai Champloo OST?
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>>100660987
That sounds pretty god damn stupid, anon.
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>>100657210

>Saya

muh chinpo
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Is OP retarded? Kill la Kill saved anime so fucking hard.
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It's shit
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>>100658877
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGfguhnvECc
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>>100656202
Anon I am sorry to break it to you so suddenly, but anime is already beyond saving. There is nothing that can be done.
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It's about clothes. How interesting can something about clothes be?
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>>100656202
There's nothing to save. Only /v/ thinks that.
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How about we ask the true question?

What is killing anime?
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>>100662701
You.
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>>100662701
Otaku pandering
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>>100662701
People that ask.
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>>100656202
Failed? I for one love KlK ._.
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>IRC starts bait thread
>over a hundred replies
why /a/ ?
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>>100662923
>Everyone who hates KLK is IRC!!
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>>100662701
Kill la Kill
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>>100662923
The uninitiated are easy to fool.
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>>100656911
>/a/ and other boards/ sites created
remember this?
also how many times did they announce big things happening?

that being said, i knew it was shit after two episodes and dropped it after ep6
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>>100662988
no, everyone who hates KLK is a gigantic queer that should be taken to the next gas chamber
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>>100663199
/pol/ please go
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>>100663258
>buttmad queer detected
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>>100658312
>Also, is there such a thing as male tsundere?
Indeed.
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>>100662701
Anime that has only has 10 episodes a season and are adapted from Manga/LN.
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>>100662134
Saya is fine when she's not trying to save you.
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>>100658312
>Also, is there such a thing as male tsundere?
I wonder...
Hey, Ranma, have you ever heard of a male tsundere?
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>>100664308
Nope. I don't think those exist.
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>>100664308
>Also, is there such a thing as male tsundere?
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>>100657266
I wouldn't call it rap. The dude is white as fuck.
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>>100663746

Oh god she's in a ribbed sweater.

There's no saving my semen. They're all going to die on the floor. RIP.
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>>100656202
In all honesty? Mako fucked it up.
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>>100656202
>failed to save anime

define "save anime" along with example
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KLK is OTT fun and I like it
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>>100662798

what a dickhead
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>>100656202
Same reason Panty and Stocking did. It had a bit of originality and fresh feeling that it wasted by reusing it over and over until it became boring and viewers gained tolerancce to it.

If it were 4 episode OAV, we`d still remember it 10 years later as classic.
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>>100657266
Oh because libera me from hell DOESN'T have it.

I bet you think the Anarchy Reigns OST is shit too.

And while you faggots are just looking to stir up shit by just saying fucking nothing and acting like you're contributing to a conversation, I do have to admit it's gone downhill, and is horribly, HORRIBLY flawed.
Episode 1 is still the best episode out of the entire show. It was perfectly paced, had the right amount of dialogue, had the right amount of world building, everything matched with the OST, the actions were slick and stylish, the entire episode was like one of those incredible pilot episodes to shows that never got made.

But KLK did get made and it's not quite living up to episode 1.

you fucks however on both sides are acting like it saved/didn't save anime.
KLK is a rollercoaster, a really high end rollercoaster that gives great thrills without much substance to it.

Oh I think there's substance there, but you're all so meat headed and set in your own opinions you'd never listen to me, so let's just pretend it's cheap thrills.
And it delivers on those cheap thrills, it delivers hard.

But it's not Gurren Lagann. Gurren Lagann was a much more external conflict driven story, there was a bad guy that the main characters worked their way up to and fought. The goal was always clearly defeat some guy.

KLK is much more internal struggle, Ryuuko's weakness comes from self doubt, uncertainty, apathy, all these negative traits that come with being a teenager.
And much of the story is her overcoming her own faults, much more than say Simon rapidly gaining more and more power and doing crazier and crazier shit.

But no matter what I say you guys are still going to make threads like this to shit up /a/, so I'll just stick to my circlejerk KLK threads, ignore shitposts and continue enjoying KLK.
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>>100667858
>If it were 4 episode OAV, we`d still remember it 10 years later as classic.
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>>100662701
People who don't fund anime.
If you really like one, buy the BD's if you can or find some way to support the studio behind it.

KLK being popular and you not liking it doesn't mean KLK is killing anime.
A studio closing kills anime.
Ratings going down kills anime.
No BD/merchandise sales kills anime.
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>>100668413
>But no matter what I say you guys are still going to make threads like this to shit up /a/, so I'll just stick to my circlejerk KLK threads, ignore shitposts and continue enjoying KLK.

Let me applaud you with my dick.
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>>100667858
That reminds me,
people said KLK would be TTGL 2.0, but in actuality it's more in line with P&SG 2.0.

>>100668641
Whatever.
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>>100656202
too much pandering
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>>100658136
I actually drooled on myself just now.
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It's one of the shows I actually look forward to watching every week.

Season 2 Korra? Now that was a letdown.
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>>100656611
you didn't watch even a half of those, did you?
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>>100668944
Except that's wrong.
From a character design standpoint it's to show she's half Senketsu half Ryuuko.
How do you show half person half clothing?
The symbiotic nature is implied through the image of Ryuuko standing in Senketsu's jaw.

From a story point they addressed this, too many life fibres causes someone to go full Donkey Kong and fuck shit up.
So a Kamui is a low amount of life fibres in a high concentration.
It's why it's so skimpy, and why you need to accept its skimpiness to use its power.
It has to be this way, otherwise it'll breed mindless violence.

It'd be pandering if Ryuuko/Satsuki squealed when attacking and flinched like Cutie Honey.
But they don't.
They fucking growl like animals and beat the everloving shit out of characters.

If you mean pandering as in the creators, /a/, tumblr, youtube guys like 2BF, hyping it up, then yeah it was over hyped.
It's a stupid little comedy action anime that has a really well designed world of fashion.
Deep characters these are not.
But I will argue that Ryuuko isn't treated as an object and is A character, even if the character is an admittedly poorly written one.
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>>100669258
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I'm catching up on this series now after watching the first 3 episodes when they debuted.

I've been spoiled on a lot but nobody spoiled me on TSUMUGU BEING SUPER COOL
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>>100669258
Not the person you responded to but
>denying pandering and fanservice in KLK
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>>100669377
I'm not denying it.
I'm saying it isn't handled how you think it is.
For one it's a plot point.

Without even going into that, the creators deliberately chose to address it in universe.
Compare that to shows that just have tits flopping around and asses jiggling, simply for eye candy.

And no.
Just.
NO.
I'm not going to repeat myself. Re read my post if you AREN'T just fucking with me.
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>>100669471
It does'nt matter how skimpy or not skimpy the goddam costume or the characters are. The cinematography deliberately goes out of its way to show ass close ups. THOSE are not tied to the story or characters. THAT is pandering you fuckwad. Let's not forget the infamous upside down skirt physics.
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>>100656290
>Shitty OST (yo nigga check out my rap shit)
>Bad designs

These two are wrong. OST was fantastic and the designs have been top notch too. The writing team is really, really dropping the ball though.
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>>100656912
Literally watched TTGL in the past two months. The only bad parts were the episodes in between the main two arcs, and that was only like 3 bad episodes total, with some at the beginning that were filler but still fun. KLK feels like those 3 bad episodes.
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>>100669693
Okay fine, you've got me there.

I can't speak for the entire viewerbase and potential viewers of KLK.
I can only say I personally got basically desensitized to the fanservice in KLK.
At first I was upset by it, but eventually I stopped caring and accepted it happening.

I'm not saying it should be happening still, if anything it should have been dropped after episode 3, for Ryuuko anyway.
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>>100657529

What it really boils down to is that nothing in KLK has had any real consequence. In TTGL, we had the death of one of the main characters in the first ten episodes. I'm not saying KLK has to kill somebody, but the plot needs to have weight to it. For instance, if Senketsu is going to be torn to pieces, his destruction should have some impact on the way Ryuuko acts. But it doesn't. She does exactly what she would have done had he not been cut up: go after Satsuki while she tries to take over Japan. Her fighting power isn't decreased at all, her emotions aren't ragged, and Senketsu is still there talking to her. Nothing happened. The whole arc with Nui ended up having no meaning.
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>>100669018
I didn't watch any
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>>100669862
Personally, KLK is at its best when it's like episode 4 and 14.
Where it just goes full retard and whips out keikaku's and meat tanks.

I mean, episode 1 was absolutely perfect compared to the rest of the series.
If anything, it feels like KLK lost focus.

Maybe I'm wrong since it hasn't all aired, and TTGL didn't really ramp up to the ludicrous degree it's famous for until the very last fight, and even then the movie fight is more well known.

I know it's more /v/, but I'd prefer it if KLK was a bit more structured like the wonderful 101's story.

Slowly ratcheting up the scale and stakes more and more, but delivering each instance with such impact that even the small ones are "hype"
That's honestly what I feel KLK needed to be, even if /a/ will chew me out for loving hype.
It really needs more hype, episode 14 had a good amount and the ending of 11 was pant shitting levels of hype, unfortunately 12 didn't deliver.

But I am serious in saying I wish KLK was structured more like a Platinum game, especially considering the director of Platinum is a huge fan of Gurren Lagann.
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>>100656611
>Log Horizon
>Bad
Get >>>out you turbo autist
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>>100668413
>KLK is much more internal struggle, Ryuuko's weakness comes from self doubt, uncertainty, apathy, all these negative traits that come with being a teenager.

Ryuuko's internal struggle is hamfisted into the narrative.
>fight people
>walk around with Mako
"I just wish I knew my father."
>more plot shit
>fight
>win
>battle
>action
>Nui bullshit
"Wow Senketsu, I'm so glad I have you!"

It doesn't tie into the story and it has no impact on what Ryuuko is doing. "I'm going to defeat Satsuki because I want to know my father!" Really? What? So you want to avenge your father? Why? So you suddenly care about him now that he is dead? OK, fine, that is a very common story element, but fuck you need to EXPOUND upon that element, not just give it a passing sentence of dialogue and drop the whole theme while the rest of the plot goes on.

Give us some scenes of Ryuuko contemplating on if what she is doing is right. Give us some flashbacks of Ryuuko interacting with her father. Show us her progression in school from a shy little kid to a delinquent. These are things we need to see as an audience so we can better understand and empathize with her character. All we have thus far is that berserking made Ryuuko question wearing Senketsu for a while, but that had no real connection to her father, her struggle with her identity, or anything else. She just afraid of berserking again. Shit, and the issue gets solved by a collectathon, that again, has nothing to do with her inner struggle.

Ryuuko is a wet blanket whose only decent characterization comes in the form of the OP and ED. The OP and ED do more to explain her character than the entire show. It's just... I don't even know.
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>>100670047
Well see that's where your wrong.
The Ryuuko has a goal now, and she's more powerful because she isn't just meandering about lazily.
The whole point of Ryuuko's character in episode 14 was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM
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>>100670403
FUCKING EVERY CHARACTER RYUUKO FIGHTS IN KLK CALLS HER OUT ON THE SAME SHIT YOU FUCK.

THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, THEY FUCKING DID.
EPISODE FUCKING EIGHT WAS ALL ABOUT RYUUKO THINKING ABOUT HOW SHE "DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HER FATHER SO WHY IS SHE FIGHTING?" AND NOT HAVING AN ANSWER
IT'S A COMMON FUCKING PLOT POINT RYUUKO HAS NO IDEA WHAT SHE'S DOING.
DO THEY NEED TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU? REALLY?

>She just afraid of berserking again. Shit, and the issue gets solved by a collectathon, that again, has nothing to do with her inner struggle.

>I have a friend shirt who gives me power
>He is the only reason I can fight
>I hurt him last time I wore him
>I'm having doubts if It's right to use him
>I'm having doubts
>Somehow not part of her internal struggle.

You are not a troll, you are just stupid.
nobody is clever enough to have such a stupid grasp of storytelling.
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>>100671053
Holy shit chill retard how hard is it to not get mad over an action anime that's clearly so OTT it can do what it likes.
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>>100656611
>Log Horizon
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>>100671187
Why did you type that?
Do you enjoy shitting up threads?
You are not right.
And you' are not "winning"
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>>100658136
>Skindents
DICK STATUS: MUH
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>>100671053
>>I'm having doubts
>>Somehow not part of her internal struggle.

They don't spend a single second emphasizing, going over, or really doing anything about this. I can see where it came in during her second fight with Nui, but that has been all. Part of storytelling is telling the fucking story. We, again, know absolutely nothing about Ryuuko. She is not interesting. Her struggle is trying to overcome Satsuki, who we also don't care for. All of the character are hypocritical, their ultimate aims irrelevant, and their motivation unknown.

All you have is speculation.
>BUT THEY SAID RYUUKO HAS NO IDEA WHAT SHE IS DOING
Fantastic, so they recognize their storytelling is bullshit but do nothing to fix it. And again, they give a passing dialogue snippet, and cut back to the plot without any relation to her inner struggle. If she doesn't have a reason, why is she doing it? Should she be questioning this instead of a side character making the comment?

I can't pen down who is at fault. The writing definitely isn't there because Takarada felt like a fucking A class character compared to the main cast, but the pacing is also playing a role. The direction feels sloppy as hell. So many factions are doing things and hardly any of them are worth caring about. The bullet that Nudist Beach had comes to mind. Completely irrelevant to the fight.

I'm hanging on in hopes of a curve ball being thrown. The first three episodes were great and then it just nose dived. So far what has been good between then and now is: Monkey actually had some characterization applied to him, which is now never used; Satsuki actually having difficulty caring out her plan, for once in her life; and Takarada. Nui comes off as a side character when she really is the cause of the whole plot because Ryuuko doesn't seem to give much of a shit about her past the first fight. Satsuki's just been a tool for her mother. Senketsu got cut up but Ryuuko is having no trouble without him.
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ryuuko wants to get back the red glove so she can complete senketsu, but senketsu was already complete without the red glove which is how she was able to transform without it in the first few episodes.

furthermore ryuuko has no idea that aikurou stole the glove, she thinks it's something he designed and gifted to her. there's no reason she'd want to seek it out at all.
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>>100671884
To add to this: why should we be worried about Satsuki?

Should we, as an audience, want Satsuki and her mother to succeed in taking over the world? Is Revocs evil? Are they doing bad things? Do their clothes kill people? Are they dangerous or are they good? They seem like rich fucks that want power, but then, so does everyone else. Trigger seems to want us to want Satsuki to defeat Takarada, because he is an evil rich fuck, but Osaka is a paradise compared to the slums of Sastuki's kingdom. Does this not have any relevance? Are we suppose to be brainwashed by Satsuki's brilliance? I can see that. I can see that being what Trigger is going for, but in that case, we need to see REVOCs as doing evil shit so we have that knowledge in the back of our minds as we watch Satsuki doing apparently good things by expanding her empire. We would root for Ryuuko to defeat her because we want Sastuki to be stopped.

As it is now, we don't really care if REVOCs wins or not because we know nothing about them besides that they make nice clothes. I guess their employees are trolls, with Nui as a good example, but we have only seen her fuck with Ryuuko and her father because they were basically breaking patent laws. Bad, but not exactly evil. And does Nui actually have importance to the company? Are her co-works also dicks to people? Is she just eccentric? The other character call her eccentric, so maybe she is the only crazy one and everyone else at REVOCs are decent people.

In the end, REVOCs success or failure just feels irrelevant.
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>>100671884
Oh like her character is absolute now.
It's not like the series is still airing or anything.
What part of Ryuuko just doesn't know what she's fighting for do you not get.
The reason she's been unable to trump Satsuki is because she has no reason for fighting.
She doesn't care about Honnouji, so her reason for fighting is flimsy.
She just rages when she finds her dads killer, showing she never had a plan, her plan was go after Satsuki.
She's berated for this by Gamagori and Satsuki.
Aikuro doesn't trust her because she's just being a meathead.
Do you want some internal monologue or something?
You act like something like Other M is better than Prime because it has character interaction and monologues as the main focus.

Not everything has to be a fucking "Deep" anime where they spend episodes upon episodes re iterating the same fucking points.
A story doesn't have to fucking spell out every detail for details to necessarily be there.

Initial D doesn't fucking have a constant play by play every fucking second of what Takumi is thinking.

Gurren Lagann didn't have a 10 episode arc focusing on how damaged simon is and question if he should pilot Lagann.

Does plastic Nee San need a fucking philisophical bullshit analysis of what it means to be in a highschool plastic modeling club?

The main lyric in the theme of Ryuuko is fucking "Don't lose your way"

Do you think the show is misogynistic too?
Or that the world it builds is too bland and shonen like?
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>>100666526
>Oh god she's in a ribbed sweater.
Yeah she looked really good in sweater.
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>>100656202

>Why Kill La Kill failed to save anime?

Because it's a stupid meme that nobody should take seriously and the anime industry doesn't actually need "saving".
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>>100672463
A story can fucking be vague and NOT answer questions.

You're told the kind of company Revocs is because of Ragyo's fucking theme.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-N3MS1YKeo

yeah, that sounds a lot like "Light Your Heart Up", really light and bouncy.
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>OST was fantastic
Get some taste in music, fucking pleb.
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>>100671381

SAO Horizon is shit, right.
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>>100672494
>Gurren Lagann didn't have a 10 episode arc focusing on how damaged simon is and question if he should pilot Lagann.

It had two full episodes dedicated to his internal conflict. TTGL spent a long fucking time focusing in on Simon after Kamina died. It set up the entire story afterword because we needed to get to know Simon and care about him so the plot afterword would have weight to it. We have thus far a max of 5 minutes in episode 8 when Ryuuko and Mako went to her house.

>wanting decent direction and narrative to a show is wanting a show to be deep

Jesus Christ, really? I loved Plastic Nee San. Plastic Nee San is a perfect example of great direction and narrative. It goes in, does what it wants, properly paces the jokes, and ends. We have our set up, our conflict, our resolution, and everything ends before it gets boring.

KLK, if is going to be near all action as it has been, needs to have proper pacing to pull it off. But, is it really even an action anime? The fights are notably short. The Ryuuko vs. Satsuki fight was the only one of much length. Really, most of the anime IS monologues already, composition-wise, the narrative is much more a drama than an action anime. Look at the fight between Monkey and Takarada. It was just them talking to each other for 80% of the time, followed by a short gun battle. Maybe that is what is screwing up the pacing. Trigger is trying to make an action anime with the budget of a drama.

>Do you think the show is misogynistic too?
>Or that the world it builds is too bland and shonen like?
The world building has been pretty good. They haven't skimped on that much. The only issue is that it doesn't matter. We saw the slums of Sastuki's kingdom and we just got a glimpse of how nice Osaka was before it got torched. That leaves us with wanting to see Sastuki be defeated, and by that logic, Takarada be victorious. Yet Trigger doesn't set it up that way at all. Satsuki seems to be the uniter of Japan.
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>>100671459
>And you' are not "winning"
>winning
>on an imageboard
I don't think you understand
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>>100672710
>calling me a pleb for like the KLK OST
>not liking it because it had one track of ill-fitted rap lyrics

Lol, you are the one that needs to get some taste. 4 tracks on that album are 9/10 material, Blumenkranz being a damn near perfect track. Go back to /mu/ and shit post about how you don't like rap and country.

>>100672592
A story can be vague, yes, but characters and conflict cannot be. If the conflict is vague, the audience isn't going to care who wins and who loses. That is how I feel about REVOCs. I don't honestly care. I want to see Ryuuko smash Sastsuki because I want some closure from all the way back in episode 3 when Trigger decided it would be a good idea to start a tournament arc when Sastuki and Ryuuko were already evenly matched.
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>>100673470
>Lol
/gaia/ --->
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>people debating the quality of Anime OSTs
But they're almost always objectively shit
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>>100673300
You still don't get it.
>You don't even know why you're fighting Matoi, do you?
>SHUT UP

yeah, tells nothing about her character.

You act like there's fucking NOTHING towards Ryuuko's character.

Are you so detached from reality and other people you HAVE to have how they're feeling told to you?

>The takarada and Monkey battle was %80 talking

That just goes against everything your saying!
Do you want Gundam Levels of fashion politics or something?
Good direction is knowing what you want to do and doing it.
Does a story fucking need dialogue to be a story?
Does a character have to speak to have a character?

Because from what I'm getting from you, you seem to want this to be a 50-100 episode slogfest of Ryuuko continually questioning herself like she's god damned shinji.

>>100673470
See that's more in line with what I'm talking about.
REVOC's is still an unkown entity.

But as I've said earlier, the story isn't. Fucking. Over.
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>>100673493
>--->
lol
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>>100673300
Isshin is the fucking Kamina of KLK.
What do you not get about this?

The difference being we don't know Isshin, but his death has affected Ryuuko much like Kamina to Simon.
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>>100673786

except there was a logical reason for simon to be affected by kamina's death, and simon's characterization flowed naturally from it

whereas ryuuko is all about getting revenge for someone who she doesn't even care about, yet cares about anyway (because the plot won't move forward without it), and feels so strongly about it that she went berserk even though she doesn't feel strongly about it at all
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>>100656202
Why OP failed pass english goodly?
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>>100674308
Yes. That is exactly what Ryuuko is.

You don't like her character.

Not, she doesn't have a character. You just don't like the one she has.
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>>100674308
I think it kind of shows in her character her own conflicting motivation. Right now, she has no purpose other than to seek revenge. She's a fighter, she needs to fight. A reason comes later.
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>>100674904

Because it's atrociously written.
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>>100656202
Takarada is saving anime.
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>>100656202
Because nothing of consequence has happened and we're halfway through the show.
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>>100675143
Shitpost or not, that's different than saying she has no character.
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>>100656202
KlK failed to save *you*, anon. Or you just didn't need saving.
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>>100657505
>that cleavage

ruins an otherwise awesome character
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>>100657037
That doesn't really argue against it just being nostalgia glasses speaking for you as the other anon said it were..

That being said, I saw it for the first time a few weeks ago, and TTGL is far superior to KLK - nothing nostalgic about it for me, just a great anime
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>>100656901
>Female MC
don't cut yourself handling that post, anon
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>You will never help Ryuuko with her pain-in-the-neck homework she needs to give in by tomorrow
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>>100672463
Your points would be completely valid if you were arguing a complete series and not one with a solid 11 episodes left.

We learned about REVOCS 2 weeks ago, do you expect everything fleshed out and revealed to you with this much time left?
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>>100677028
arent you that person with shit taste on MAL?
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>>100658312
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>>100677028
You will have to be more specific.
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I can see that there is butt-hurtery going on, so i'm just gonna go ahead and post best girl.
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>>100677411
Meant for >>100677342
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>>100656202
Its a translation error, klk is 'conserving animation'
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>>100677426
that's not maiko or nonon
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>>100677489
She is so lewd it's unreal.
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>>100677529
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>>100677489

Most beautiful girl I've ever seen 10/10 would treasure forever
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>>100677426
>I can see that there is butt-hurtery going on, so i'm just gonna go ahead and post best girl.
Her theme has no rap shit which makes her truly superior.
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>>100677654
Dis nigga knows wus up.
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>>100657521
agreed, they did such a good job of picking the 30 seconds of this song where it rocks and completely skipping the rest of it which is laughable
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>>100677489
I get lost in those eyes every time I see them.
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>>100677823
>eyes
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Kill la Kill saved waifus.
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KLK is fine its not going to change the world but its enjoyable.

Just enjoy it and stop trying to ask for something to save anime cause its not going to happen. Your just going to make your self as miserable as all the 2deep4u fags who are still examining EVA and how "DEEP and PROFOUND" ever scene is
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I don't want Mako to die
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Only Bittenfeld will save anime
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>>100677690
The thing about Nui is, she is both delicate and devious, sinister yet sophisticated, ferocious yet feminine. Her personality and looks make you want to just cuddle her, but when you do she will probably cut you down because of how mental she really is. Thats why every time I see her I always see how far I can fly to the sun without getting burned.
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>>100678027
BITTEN

I want to believe
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>>100677690
Is there a scan of that yet?
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>>100656683
>yowamushi
>alright

More like fucking great.
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Nui=moe
KlK is literaly showing how devious and destructive the moe industry can be
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>>100656202
>failed
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>>100678370
Oh anon, shes just a harmless girl, wouldn't hurt a fly.
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>>100656525
>filler
Doesn't anyone put effort into bait anymore? You, or whomever made that bait, doesn't even know what filler is and puts it in there twice.
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and >>100678560 was meant for >>100656870
Fuck.
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>>100672756
>LH is SAO

all these faggots around me
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>>100657521
>>LET ME SAHK EET AND I CAN HAVE POWA TO GIVE YOU POWA
>>LET ME SAHK EET AND I CAN HAVE POWA TO GIVE YOU POWA
>>LET ME SAHK EET AND I CAN HAVE POWA TO GIVE YOU POWA
>>LET ME SAHK EET AND I CAN HAVE POWA TO GIVE YOU POWA

Fucking lol'd 10/10 if troll 7/10 if copy pasta
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>>100656525
I want to protect that smile.
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>>100680033
YOU'RE SO HOT!
GOOD LOOKING!
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>>100661177
Oh come on the OP to samurai champloo is god awful, the lyrics/rapping part at least. I can't believe people actually think it's good am I getting trolled or something
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>>100674308
I'm not a super huge fan of kill la kill (though I do enjoy it) and this is one thing I never quite understand why people think it's shit writing.

To me, this is one aspect of the show that makes Ryuuko feel very human; you don't need to be very close to a person in order to be upset if they're killed, especially if they're a family member. While Ryuuko may not have had a real relationship with her father, the feeling of loss is still there, oftentimes in relationships that are estranged such as this, there is a back-of-the-mind feeling that someday you'll have time to actually start working on a semblance of a relationship later on in life, and when one dies, then you're struck with a conflicted sense of guilt because you never really gave out the first olive branch. The fact that to Ryuuko, him calling her to the mansion could have very well seemed like her dad was finally ready to take a real interest in her, would likely just make it worse. The end result is a conflicting torrent of emotions that a lot of people don't have the means to deal with those emotions, and for Ryuuko, she just tries to deal with the emotions in a way that suits her, namely trying to carve them into someone's body with scissors.

Granted, this is only measured by weather or not Ryuuko can realize she is lashing out in vengeance in a shitty way to deal with her own emotional issues regarding her dads death so she can develop as a character, but it's worth noting at least.
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>>100656290
oh common, even I don't agree with those last two.
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>>100680254
>oh common, even I don't agree with those last two.
Maybe you should start listening to good music then.
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>>100680326
The track with david whitaker on it was pure ballsack, but the rest of it is passable. Kill la Kill is bad, don't get me wrong, its just not bad because of its music, its bad because of everything else you said.

But what do I know, I'm just a dumb nigger who likes Samurai Champloo more than Cowboy Bebop
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>>100658000
Ebin trips my frend :^)
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>>100680326
Ok, I won't deny that the show fails on many, many levels.

But of your are seriously sitting here talkin shit about the likes of Blumenkranz you need to go.
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Because saving anime was a joke based on the words of that one director, wasn't it? Then he put out Fractale?
I think it's easily above average, and it has that hot-blooded, over the top action that doesn't always take itself seriously. It won't "save anime", but I think good variety in a season can go a lot further than most people think.
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Because m ako is the shittiest comic relief since jar jar
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>>100656202
>Implying anime needs saving
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>>100666734
Evangelion literally saved anime back in the 90s.
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>>100680772
Speak english please.
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>>100675327
But who's gonna save him?
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>>100682020
Your lack of music taste is shit.

Is that *English* enough for you chief?
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>>100656423
>>100656405
in denial that moe kills the industry and community
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>>100680125
You truly know nothing about hiphop/rap and its culture, otherwise you'd realise how much of a faggot you just sounded like right now.
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>>100656611
This is b8, Someone photoshopped all of this from a previous thread last yr
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>>100682237
IT BEGINS
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>>100680125
Get a load of this faggot
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Kill la Kill wasn't supposed to save anime, it was just some buzzword bullshit that faggots clung to.

The pacing so far is fucking awful and nothing has relevance. I ended up caring more about the boss fight per week villains than I do the overarching ones. 15 and 16 better be the realignment the series needs.
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>>100656911
I want to eat Gama. Frogs are tasty.
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>>100682800
>hiphop/rap and its culture
City people don't have culture. They are animals.
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>>100683608
As well as basement dwellers
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>>100658338
Could be a platonic love as well. Or some fetish thing.
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>>100656611
>Valverave

hey
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>>100656971
i pray to god
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>>100657004
>that speedhack
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>>100677769
BTW
http://youtu.be/6KFYko9WDF4
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How long until she gets her uniform back? Badass Mako is my favorite Mako.
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Anyone know where the Kill la kill line art came from?
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>>100656611
>Miss Monochrome (AOTS)
>Non non
>Outbreak company
>Log horizon
>Nagi no Asukara
>Shit

>STB
>Walkure
>Tokyo ravens
>Not decent or silly fun
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>>100675327
>>100682237
>implying all the throwaway antagonists didn't join nudistu biiiiiiich after losing their uniforms and wanting revenge on satsuki
c'mon guys, this is storytelling 101
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>>100676747
>a 1 cm line
Hating the natural symbol of a developing young woman.

Go back to watching loli rape porn you neckbeard faggot
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>>100687090
There was no good anime in 2013, deal with it.

Well, maybe monogatari s2.
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>>100688212
Someone have the image of Gama biting through the gag?
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>>100656611
This would be fun or enjoyable for people who dont really care much about the general plot or something and like more the highschool setting and a slow paced kind of fun so as I am going to state
>Opinions
90% of all of those anime I would call them shit for how unoriginal they are in my opinion, but maybe an anon who prefers moe would call me on my shit. I would be cool with moe if I could talk about my favorite manga on /a/ thou...
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>hurr durr saing anime

that shit was fucking obnoxious and just fail trolling and shitposting

It was annoying me off so much that i had decided to shitpost in all KlK threads the moment it premiered

but i actually ended up liking up the show so I just discuss it normally

doesn't mean the pre hype from some /a/nons wasn't stupid as fuck
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Wouldn't it be hilarious if last 2 minutes of the episode they reveal that it was all exaggerated and they're all just normal high school students flinging pencils and shit at each other?
KLK is one of my favorite anime series right now and that would be delicious.
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>>100657217
He's in the pillowy mounds of mashed potatoes in heaven now
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>gotta find out who killed my dad
that's why

also it hasn't finished yet
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>>100656611
>Kill la Kill
So Kill la Kill is saving anime from Kill la Kill huh?
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>>100677986
it's gonna happen.
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>>100693048
>>100677986
Am I the only one who thinks AikurĊ will die in the next episode?
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Because one good show can't change the industry. If other studios follow suit and start making fun, over-the-top anime instead of false 2 DEEP 4 U anime or moeshit, then maybe it will save anime.

Then again, this seems like a good year. Kill la Kill, Space Dandy, etc. It seems like studios are taking risks again and trying to make something fun to watch.
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>There are people who don't like KLK's OST

How is that even possible?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-N3MS1YKeo
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>>100694377
>Because one good show can't change the industry
Tell that to 0079. And Mazinger. And EVA.
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>>100694436
0079 and Mazinger didn't save anything and were just stand alone good shows.

I'll give you EVA, though, because it started the whole DEEP craze that's only now winding down.
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>>100694562
You said "change the industry". All three of those titles did, massively.
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>>100694629
How did 0079 change the industry? If you had said Wing, maybe I'd say you had a point, but not an obscure title like 0079.
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>>100656202
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBU5EUoW6q0

she should have read the signs about the flu shot
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>>100694748
>but not an obscure title like 0079.
Are you retarded or what?
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>>100694562
>Mazinger and Gundam 0079 didn't save anything
They didn't save anything per say, but Mazinger created a whole new genre leading to the mecha craze of the 70s, and Gundam helped push that even further. Most modern foundations of mecha today are based on a mixture of Mazinger and Gundam. The merchandise driven aspect of anime today was the result of companies pushing its Mazinger chogokins out on the market, as well as Gunpla from the Gundam series. Evangelion changed the industry too, but not in the WHOLE DEEP CRAZE way you think. It caused late night otaku oriented anime to boom with figurine merchandise.



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