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This always bugged me during the last episode. She's freaking Lv90. Surely she can take down at least a couple hundred fish people without dying.
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she obviously got carried
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She's a support class, panicked, and not wearing her gear.
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>>100635179

Like all girls in MMOs, MAIRITE GUYZ?

HAR HAR CHORTLE SNORT FART
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>>100635211
Go back to tumblr, holy shit.
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>>100635196

Bitch still has a heal button. She could throw up some heals before she runs and changes.
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>>100635038
That's what happens when you bot your way through and the game company releases a patch that renders your bot unusable.
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>>100635196
This. Also, she also hasn't done any fighting since the apocalypse to get accustomed to it and putting her own body in danger.
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>>100635211
Spoken like a true gamer gurrrl that was carried
>>100635038
It could be a game like Runescape where leveling any skill will level up your character. She could be level 90 in house care, cooking, sewing, and child care, but level 6 in combat.
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>>100635271
Good point, she's been doing management work all the time.

Which is bullshit in of itself considering Crusty, a leader of a larger guild, has been out and about fighting.
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As a level 90, it's no trouble for her to take down individual fish-men, but you also have to keep in mind that she's a healer. Even though the fish-men don't pose a threat to her, she has no practical way of taking down large groups of them quickly. Because she's the active leader of the training program, the most useful thing she can do is make sure the inexperienced players are safe.

In essence, let the level 90 combat classes take care of the combat.
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>>100635326
To add to your comment, even Krusty the Clown has died twice just for the sake of getting used to how things work post-apocalypse. Marie is essentially in charge of a social guild. So there was no expectation to begin with for her to be out grinding. Plus she seems like she'd be a chicken shit in post-apocalypse combat.
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>>100635571
Hopefully Shiroe-lite will make a man out of her yet.
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>>100635571
Then what the fuck was she doing this whole time? I get the part about managing the bake sale, but before that? Was she literally sitting around doing nothing for, what, 2-3 weeks?
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>>100635610

Nah she gets her shit together next episode or two. The LN mentions she looks like shit at the end of everything due to her going OOM multiple times in one night.
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>>100635663
>literally sitting around doing nothing
ragnarok online in a nutshell
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>>100635211
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>>100635610
He's too busy with having a loli in each arm, the lucky bastard.

>>100635663
>Was she literally sitting around doing nothing for, what, 2-3 weeks?
Probably, yes. Again, she's a max level in a social guild. Speaking from experience, that's usually what happens in social guilds at max level. Sit around, work on tertiary skills, bullshit with people on your friends list and guildmates and so on.
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>>100635038
>linear level growth instead of exponential
>Everquest style mob difficulty

gb2 your carebear WoW clones
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>>100635809
>He's too busy with having a loli in each arm, the lucky bastard.
I was speaking about Minori.
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>>100635324
>It could be a game like Runescape where leveling any skill will level up your character
RS autism injection: only leveling combat stats changes your character's combat level. However, because of the wacky combat level formula it's possible for someone to have a very high combat level and perform relatively poorly if their mix of specific combat skills is badly designed.
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>>100635809
also they're in VR where they can probably eat everything they want with no consequence, and a variety of other pleasures I'm sure will keep them busy until they want to be productive for once
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>>100635809
>Probably, yes. Again, she's a max level in a social guild. Speaking from experience, that's usually what happens in social guilds at max level. Sit around, work on tertiary skills, bullshit with people on your friends list and guildmates and so on.

New expansion and new level cap is widely known. She's not max level. Not to mention boredom should eventually kick in and she'd leave to do *something.*
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>>100635339
Bullshit. MMO nowadays the healer classes are overpowered and can basically tank everything in pve and pvp outhealing all the damage taken except for real deal super bosses in raids.
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>>100635875
>their mix of specific combat skills is badly designed.
well you make it sound like they should choose what to level very carefully, so to clarify

you can have 99 ATK, and you can raise your level 1 prayer/magic or whatever to a certain level without raising your combat level at all (maybe 50-70? I don't know the calculations).

So there was no reason for anyone to boast about being pures.
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>>100635916
90 is effectively the max level right now, since not even people in the combat guilds have been mentioned to have leveled past 90 since the apocalypse.
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>>100635889
>also they're in VR
>VR

you dun goofed
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>>100635211
Wow
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>>100635889
>also they're in VR

No.
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>>100635960
Elder Tale Online is an idealized MMO with near-perfect balance of classes where classes actually serve distinct niches.

Think pre-renewal (and maybe pre-trans) RO, not the distinction between the classes are a bit blurred with 3rd jobs
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>>100636051
>since not even people in the combat guilds have been mentioned to have leveled past 90 since the apocalypse
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>>100635870
>Everquest style mob difficulty
Thanks for dredging up nightmares. At least my main was a broken as shit op necromancer.

>>100635916
Ok, I misspoke on the max level thing a bit. She was a previous max level. But again it comes back to her being head of a social guild. There was no reason or pressure for her to go out of Akiba and do a damn thing. She seems easily amused enough to be satisfied with that.
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>>100636084
oops I mean of course an alternate world where the devs of Elder Tale were actually magicians that seeked minds from Earth to control the adventurer bodies, but I'm sure a lot of them are still treating it like a super realistic VR.
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>>100635960
His point still stands, she has no way of dealing with large numbers of them. All she could do is outheal their damage for awhile, but doing fuck all else.
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>>100636165
Spoiler this please.
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Is she going to fuck the big guy and NTR the little one, ultimately creating the real final boss?
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>>100636165
I'm sorry, I had the misinterpretation that we were talking about currently occuring events in the anime, not the LN.
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>>100636197
dat fanfiction
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>>100636244
>implying we'll see it animated anyway
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>>100635870
tetra does funny things to my dick
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>>100636165
>3-4 levels gained near the level cap and not a single piece of new gear
What a bunch of scrubs.
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>>100635038
But she's still a girl
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>>100635038
You're lucky is that's the only thing bothering you about LH. Considerings its a shit.
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>max level characters in a MMO
>armor isn't retarded with lights and spikes
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>>100636244
>whining about spoilers on 4chan

there are not even any discernible spoilers there
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>>100636130
i dunno man having to wait half a day just to replenish all my hp seems like the kinds of game i'd drop after 5minutes and rant about it in /v/
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>>100636347
I prefer the term headcanon thank you every much
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>>100636231
It just seems weird that her base stat wouldn't be extremely high simply because she's lv90. She could always just bash some goblin in the face with a umbrella or other stuff.

When I was playing FF11, I had a white mage that was around lv40 and I could bash lv25 monsters to death with my staff. Wouldn't a 1 or 2-hit kill from her be better than having the lower level kids taking longer time to kill.

Still a good show though.
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>>100636419
It's the tiny tophat, man. It makes any character irresistible.
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>>100636442
you are blind
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>>100636442
What are you talking about? Naotsugu and Shiroe both have new gear.
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>>100636473
>Spoilers in the OP
Fuck whoever storyboarded that shit.
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>>100636462
LH doesn't have the budget for that flashy shit.
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>>100636506
What part of linear, not exponential, level growth is hard to understand?
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>>100636476
>i dunno man having to wait half a day just to replenish all my hp
You have to remember the time lines are different now. 20 years irl is about 300 years in-world or something

It'd be OP as fuck (and they already are) if they could replenish it just by dozing off for 5 minutes.
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>>100636045
i think what you're referring to is style base: the calculator decides what "profession" you are (melee, ranged, magic) by which combination of a weighted average of your defense+offensive stat(s)
because of this, if the system decides you're melee, you could get ranged levels up to the threshold where your combat type switches to ranged without affecting your combat level
prayer, defense and hitpoints affect your combat level no matter what "style" you are
the point i was trying to make is that a character built specifically to game the system and be abnormally strong in a certain combat level range has an advantage over a haphazardly leveled account in that combat range
for instance, a rangetank (no offensive melee stats, 99 range, 70+ defense, 94+ mage for vengeance) is ideally in the level range around 95-105
a main-type account with evenly leveled melee stats (let's say 80-80-80) is around level 100
the rangetank has equal or higher defense and a significantly higher max hit/average dps because 80s offensive stats simply can't compete against a 99 offensive stat
obviously we don't really know how the LH system works but it's possible it could have issues like that
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>>100636476
Sounds like something /v/ would eat up
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>>100636506
>I had a white mage that was around lv40 and I could bash lv25 monsters to death with my staff

welcome to Everquest style mob difficulty, equal level mobs will wipe the floor with you
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>you'll never be trapped in a mmo and go on adventures
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>>100636574
Even if it's linear, her stats still should be stronger than the trainees. Unless you talking about her having like Lv90 craft/management skill and Lv1 fisting
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>>100636586
Jesus christ man, the periods and capitalization exist for a reason.
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>>100636506
You probably weren't running around wearing, effectively, level 1 gear and you had a weapon. Also you likely had the divine breastplate that was made specifically for WHMs to farm with.
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>>100636694

Stuff like this is what makes people kill themselves.
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>>100636715
sorry, i'm tired and lazy
but really, does it impact the readability that much?
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>>100636820
yesinfactitdoesaffectlegibilityyoufuckingtool
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>>100636804
where do you think we are?
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>>100636694
>you will never be trapped in an mmo as your loli kemonomimi character and go on adventures
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>>100636820
More than it should, especially with 4chan's habit of akwardly sizing the comment boxes with longer comments; I couldn't immediately tell where one sentence ended and another began despite a new line being created.
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>>100636901
And an image to add that I forgot.
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>>100636820
Interesting fact: Back in the 12th or 13th century scholars got really upset that periods and spaces were becoming common because they felt it made reading too easy and that anyone would be able to do it. They thought reading should take a lot of work and parsing a sentence should be difficult.
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>>100636915
Now I think about it that way I see what you mean. I'll knock it off.

>>100637014
I'm proud to carry on the tradition
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>>100637014
And now we have literal subhumans reading OUR papers.
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>>100637014
Those elitist faggots.
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>>100636473
Quick, somebody shop an accordion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxUU3zncVmI
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>>100637014
Those people didn't even spell words consistently.

They have no place in my strict prescriptivist vision for written communication.
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>>100636955
>You will never log in to GW2, find that you've become your female asura, then proceed to take every barbed charr dick in the Black Citadel.
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>>100637014
That's because they all read out loud to sound words out. I can't remember his name for the life of me, but there was a Cardinal in the Vatican at one point who could read silently and all of his fellow church members thought he was either a demon or a miracle worker.
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>>100635038
Weak woman syndrome. Remember, this isn't a real game, it's an anime pretending to be a game, and so anime rules will always trump game rules.
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>>100637325
In that same scene there was a female monk bashing them in the face. Fuck off.
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>>100635038
in normal mmo's 9999999999 lvl 20-30 fishpeople would no problem for a level 90
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>>100637187

>Not having a threesome with two sylvari ladies
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>>100637489
>normal mmo
You mean modern post-WoW MMOs, of which this is not.
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>>100637583
But that's what he said, normal.
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>>100637645
People like you are the reason MMOs suck now.
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>>100637583
never mentioned wow. i was thinking about phantasy star online and aion mostly
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>>100637686
Sorry for acknowledging reality, no matter how grim it is.
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>>100637693
PSO is hardly an MMO, and Aion falls into the 'post-WoW' category. It's not a matter of talking about WoW specifically, but what it has caused MMOs to become.
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>>100637693
Before WoW, soloing wasn't something people were generally capable of in most MMOs. Once WoW blew up, they changed the design paradigm because, as always, everybody wanted to make the copy and repeat the success.. As an aside, PSO was designed after Diablo.
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>>100637686
There is still some hope left in the world.

http://www.project1999.com/
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>>100637719
>Sorry for acknowledging reality
But Anon, you have to rend the lie that covers. Who's the real sucker now?
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>>100638177
>EQ during the Kunark expansion
I'm not sure if I want to relive the nightmare over again. Those horrific grind times, the xp penalty for death, and not to mention the overall brokeness of EQ. The quests that worked weren't worth doing aside from maybe the epic quests. A few other quests like JBoots took camping rare spawn points for hours on end. Which would usually end up getting snagged by a passerby that would do just enough damage more than you to get credit.

Saging for making a /v/ post.
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>>100635271
She could have practiced a little.
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>>100640100
Judging from the type of character she's been shown as so far, do you really believe that? Nah, I find it more likely she's been chilling in Akiba, bullshitting with guild members and people on her friends list, and working on her housekeeping or prostitute skill.

Speaking of, anyone have anything showing what type of tertiary skill she has? I don't think I've seen her character profile like some of the others have.
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>>100635038
You do know the ones running away are beginners and low leveled players right? What if there's a possibility of being ambushed on the way and who will help them? Having a 90 Cleric would be logical in this way she could heal whoever gets damaged and such.
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>>100637014
where can I read more about this?
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>>100636694
>you will never play another MMO worth adventuring in
There was a time when the level cap was just a tiny dot on the horizon and the main purpose of leveling was so you could explore dangerous new places and return home with tales of valor and wonder. That time has long passed.
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Hypothetical question time /a/

If you were a level 90 munk and you came across a level 18 druid whose avatar was a fat loli, would you bully her publicly, and then be super sweet and gentle with her in private?
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>>100643938
I probably wouldn't care since I'm a level 90 monk and probably have better things to do, unless her name is some shit like xXxnarutoLUVsasukexXx in which case I'll PK her without hesitation and then go on my way doing better things.
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>>100636513
god damn it why did you have to remind me of that game
I can't believe they closed the damn servers
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>>100635271
>putting her body in danger
those melons does needs protection 24/7
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>>100645540
That's why she should always have a tank with her. Always.



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