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Daily reminder that moe is the cancer killing anime
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hey don't talk shit about Moe
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>some of the top selling anime
>killing the industry
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Reminder that the anime industry is selling far more titles than it did when these emails were written.
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>>100612340
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As much as it pains me to say this since I actually do like moe, it is contributing to a monoculture of anime oriented around selling waifus, rather than being deep, creative, or profound.
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>>100612446

>anime
>actually deep/profound
>ever

Stages Of An Anime Fan

Stage 1: Is introduced to a popular, entry-level anime film such as Akira or Ghost in the Shell by a friend. Proceeds to explore the most famous anime films such as the above, Ghibli movies, etc.

Stage 2: Discovers shonen series, likely Bleach on Adult Swim. Briefly becomes an IRL version of Rikka from Chuunibyou. Does not yet understand why /a/ trolls shonenshit threads. Will hate self for the rest of his natural life for this brief phase.

Stage 3: Mature / deepfag phase. Once he begins to realize shonenshit is shit, begins to seek out “deep” and critically acclaimed anime such as Tatami Galaxy, Evangelion, Lain, etc. Starts debating the meaning of these anime on /a/, as well as starts trolling shonenshit threads, suddenly feeling superior to the plebes in said threads.

Stage 4: Moefag, the final phase. Decides to try a moe series which /a/ seems to love, such as Aria, or more recently Non Non Biyori, etc… justifying it to self as for “purely academic reasons,” e.g. so they can troll or shittalk these series with an informed viewpoint. Ends up discovering that nothing is more peaceful, relaxing, and enjoyable than watching cute girls doing cute things. Ends up realizing that all “deep and mature” anime are actually pretentious bullshit.
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i'd be happier if the bad kyoani shows had other redeeming features than just moe
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>>100612549
You are literally the cancer.
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>>100612671

Moebros are /a/'s largest demographic. Perhaps you'd fit in better at MAL?
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>Haruhi

>Killing the industry

She is the industry.
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>>100612549
I can't believe somebody actually typed this up
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>>100612549
I've never read anything that I agree with more since Mein Kampf
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>>100612549
A diet of mere hedonism and vaguely-sexual longing for adolescence is not fulfilling.
Why do you want to reject actually thinking about anything more complicated than warm fuzzies and tedious repetition of an everyday life? Is it because you're intellectually stunted? Or you just want to merge your existence with pure indolent eat-drink-fap-sleep cycles into your waning years?
Or I guess maybe you stimulate your intellect elsewhere, I don't know. I'd argue that anime can tackle serious issues as well as film, if they actually try.
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>>100612549
t-this is pasta right?
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>>100612866
Being god, Haruhi created the industry to suit her whims three years ago. Then robot aliens and time travelers came down to monitor her. People only think that the series is from 2003.

It's common knowledge.
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>>100612983
>>100613144
Have people seriously not seen that before?
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>>100612079
Saving, you mean?
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>>100612671
>otaku pandering
>otaku are what's keeping the fucking industry alive

But m-muh Death Note! Muh edge! Muh deep, intricate cartoon plots!

>>>/MAL/
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Moe isn't a genre.
Cuteness and moe will be around no matter what, maybe you should go look for a new medium
The main thing KyoAni did was start the LN adaption craze, which is annoying for people in the west because you can't continue where the adaption left off easy.
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>calling Haruhi moe

Do you even know the meaning of the word?
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>>100613111

>Why do you want to reject actually thinking about anything more complicated than warm fuzzies and tedious repetition of an everyday life?

Because that type of thing isn't what anime is good at. If I wanted that I'd read a good book. Anime is pretty much always terrible at that sort of thing because its target demographic is too young. What anime excels at better than any other media is escapism through moe.
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>>100612274
>JUSTIN BIEBER IS A GUD SINGUR BECUZ HE SELLS SO MOOCH OMG
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>>100613277
Mikuru-chan is moemoe, though.
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>>100612079

Why are you people responding to this thread

http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/100472073/#100472073
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>>100613304
What do you think "industry" means?
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>>100613207
>implying MAL actually cares about fedora edgy animu

All they care about is fucking SNK and Gintama
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Suzumiya moe? What? That one character? ONE?
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>>100613304
But that isn't what anon is arguing.

It's like saying that Justin Bieber is popular, therefor the music industry is going bankrupt and will disappear soon.
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>>100613111
There's no other medium other than manga than can give me cute little girls doing cute things. If I want some deep mature story I'll rewatch Jacob's Ladder.
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>creating a false dichotomy between watching moe anime and watching "manly" anime
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>>100613485
this guy gets it.
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Damn, how new are the most of you.
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>>100613426
It´s corrupting the industry, making it lazy, if you see that a teenager with a girl´s voice sells millions why make an effort to look for talent? fuck why? Likewise if they see that a show about girls eating cake sells shitloads, why on earth would you want to hire writers or think of something clever? no, fuck that, let´s put more moe on the screen.
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>>100613485
>not living in a binary reality
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>Unironic mentioning of Justin Bieber when he's pretty much a used up wigger at this point.

You guys couldn't even troll /mu/ right.
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>>100613796
This is /a/, no one knows anything about the real world.
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>>100613767
I'd like to see an anime about teenagers as baked good connoisseurs.

Although that's basically the plot to those weird Toradora-chibi OVAs, so I guess it already exists.
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>>100612079
I liked Haruhi and Nichijou.
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The moe industry is growing stagnant. I have a solution.
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>>100613796

One of my biggest hobbies is following the careers of the newest teen pop idols, watching and waiting for their inevitable spiraling nosedive of hedonism and self-destruction early death.
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>>100613989
Which is weird.
You're mean.


Bieber's still doing alright, isn't he?
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>>100613767
>no, fuck that, let´s put more moe on the screen.
i agree wholeheartedly anon
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>>100613796
>>100613796

One of my biggest hobbies is following the careers of the newest teen pop idols, watching and waiting for their inevitable spiraling nosedive of hedonism and self-destruction and early death.
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>>100614056
Depends on your definition of "alright".
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>>100614099
That's identical to the post you just deleted, except now you have the reply link doubled.
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>>100613962
Darker than Black was really dumb though. It's the anime equivalent of a comic book movie, they had to double down on spectacle in order to paper over how stupid it is.
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>>100614091
You don´t get it do you?
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Hold on there. Nichijou is a decent slice-of-life with soft humour and relaxing non-sexual setting.

K-On on the other hand is actual moe with more shipping than homestuck, except that it is yuri-only and its jokes are not meant to be funny but portray the characters in a cute way. You cant put them in the same category just because they were animated by the same studio.
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>>100614188
I added an "and".
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>>100614327
>more shipping than homestuck
Are you fucking serious? As SoL shows with "yuri subtext" go, it barely even registers on the goggleometer.
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Get this thread out of here.
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>>100614327

The only yuri vibes in K-ON come from Mugi and Sawa. Objectively.
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>>100613434
You just need to add some azunyan to it and there you go.
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>>100612549
Keep wallowing in your own filth you disgusting faggot.
Keep to yourself in a dark corner with the rest of your like minded kind, circle-jerking about the same things everyday.

Fucking autist, are you so afraid of new things or formats?
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>>100613165
Do you seriously expect anything else from this thread?
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>>100614604
Lurk more newshit fuck.
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>>100614382
>>100614186
>>100613879
The last time I had any sympathy towards teen idols was Gary Coleman and Lindsey Lohan.
Well Gary wasn't even an idol, he was a catchphrase machine that died unloved.
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Reminder that nothing is killing anime because Inferno Cop saved anime and it can't die until he does, and justice never dies.
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Nichijou was a step in the right direciton.
What the fuck happened?
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>>100614820
Nobody bought it
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>>100614820
Hyouka was a very good anime though.
I don't think even people who despise moe could argue it wasn't.
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>>100614703
Oh wow.
Why did I even bother?
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>>100613256
OP here, I don´t hate moe when it is used wisely, take for instance eden of the east, characters have moe traits, but they have something to say nevertheless.
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Nononononno

Moe is killing itself.

Which is good: wouldn't want moe NOT killing themselves now, would you?
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who is you are favorite kyoani
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>>100614880
>>100614855
>>100614846
>>100614820

Why are you still posting in this thread? Just let it die.
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>>100614846
Fuck Sakura Trick. It is not good.
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>>100614953
DekoDESS
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>>100614846
>he's mad his favorite show isn't as liked as ST
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>>100614965
When you get duped into replying to a troll, it's easy to not want to let it drop. That would be admitting defeat.
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>>100615080
>OP DOESN´T LIKE MOE
>HE MUST BE TROLLING BECUZ I DO
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>>100615167
>OP DOESN´T LIKE MOE
Do you enjoy feeling bad or what?
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>>100615167
Starting a thread with "reminder that <XXX that is going to start an argument>" is trolling.
Just because you believe what you're saying doesn't mean that you're not saying it to get a rise out of people.
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>>100612549

>not skipping shonenshit entirely
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>>100615167
No need to be embarrased, we've all replied to trolls and shitposters before.
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>>100615240
Maybe he's like Kirei. He only likes suffering.
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I don't know why but I don't like Kyoani moe.
It's just bland and has no soul.
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>>100615269
>>100615279

Why are you replying to that post? He knows he's fucking trolling. Stop it.
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Ah, i love watching the newkids skirm and moan about moe, i give you half a year before you either leave or become one of us.

Moebros strong.
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>>100615272

Hey man, Bleach is actually pretty good until Rukia gets saved.
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>>100612549
This. I skipped stage 3 though.
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>>100615399
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The only thing KyoAni "made" that had a large influence was Haruhi, and even then nearly every production decision was Kadokawa's. Anime studios aren't the engine that drives the industry, it's the companies that actually produce it, fund it, and make the profit (Kadokawa, TBS, Aniplex, etc.)

And even then it's not a matter of "moe or not moe." It's shitty LN adaptation to promote the source versus whatever else otherwise.

I don't know why I'm responding seriously to this thread.
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>>100612549
>No stage 5 where you eventually grow to love anime of all forms and still see the flaws of many of the series you watch to where you yourself know that no anime is perfect, but can still be enjoyed despite that.
Stay plebian.
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>>100612549
I went from stage 1 straight to stage 4.
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moe is not the cancer.

moe supporters are the cancer.
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>>100615566
Because you're bored and a faget, don't worry.
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>>100615576

>to where you yourself know that no anime is perfect

But Aria is perfect, anon.
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>>100614953
There's no Kyoani cuter than Mochizou.
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>>100615576
Has someone ever reached that stage?
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>>100615725

No. People say they have to look cool but everyone has their preferences and dislikes.

The true stage 5 is getting bored with anime and permanently migrating to either /jp/ where you fap to Touhous or /d/ where you fap to dickgirls.
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>>100615576
but shounen is literal garbage. at its best it is filler-filled powerlevel crap with 300 episodes kids waste their time on insted of doing something with friends, at its worst it is commercialized shit made only to sell you trading cards. I am glad dragon ball was the only thing I watched as a kid.
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>>100615725
Yes, me.
Now bow.
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>>100615812
>Not liking JoJo
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Signs of a a Niwaka Otaku (the worst type otaku, who wants to be an Otaku, but fails.):

>けいおん、ABが面白いとか言う奴
thinks K-ON! and Angel Beats are fun anime

>化物語とけいおんをやたら持ち上げてる
Recommend to people Bakemonogatari and K-ON!

>オタクであることを隠そうとしない奴
Not hiding powerlevel

>シャフトを絶賛
SHAFT fanboy

>堂々とアニメの話してる奴
Talking about anime openly

>まどかマギカ、けいおんを観ている奴
Love Madoka and K-on!

>BDの売上が~って言う奴
Care about BD sales

>エヴァの新劇場版だけ見て TVアニメ版は見てない
Have only seen Eva Rebuild, never finished the TV series

>1年前はけいおんにハマってて, 今はまどかマギカにハマってるような奴
The people who love K-ON last year, and now into Madoka

>京アニ 好きなやつはにわか率 100%
>シャフト 好きなやつはにわか率70%
KyoAni fanbase niwaka 100%
SHAFT fanbase niwaka 70%

>好きなエロゲブランドがkey、あかべぇ、Nitro+
fav VN studio : key, AKABEi and Nitro+
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>>100612549
I need my moeshit to balance out my edgyshit.
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>>100615913
JoJo is not shounen. If I watched it as a kid I would find it cringe-worthy and gay. If I watched it now, I would value it for the costumes, well-drawn bodies and art in general.
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>>100616054
Man, remember when "niwaka" was the latest cool insult on /a/ even though no one actually knew what it meant? I'm glad we passed that phase relatively quickly.
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>>100616189
>JoJo is not shounen
>I think shounen is shit, therefore if something isn't shit it can't be shounen
Okay
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>>100616189
JoJo is literally every 80's shonen cliche in one intentionally-terrible anime.
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>>100612549
I think i did stage 2 and 1 in reverse.
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>>100616054
It's 2014 and I still love K-ON and you can't stop me faggot.
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>>100616189
Why is it not shounen?
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>>100616370
>Intentionally-terrible
Just admit it's good, and you like it.
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>>100616427
because it has value above the main plot and power levels which can appeal to older audiences. just like fist of the north star.
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>>100616401
I´m sorry to hear you brain stopped working, here have an azunyan.
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>>100612079
At least they finally got the eyes right in 07
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>>100616500

It's embarrassingly cheesy and gay. I'd rather watch Bleach. At least that has some nice T&A in the place of crossdressing faggots.
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>>100612549
You forgot stage 5 Satori enlightened demi god. Just give me something to fap to
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>>100616581

So is Toradora a shounen?
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>>100616581
Yes, those are exactly the things that people use to identify shonen.
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>>100616054
Surprisingly accurate
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>>100615725
Yes.
>>100615802
You will never know true joy then.
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>>100612549
Stage 5 is withdrawal from the disappointment that is reality as one becomes fixated on a single character

Stage 6 is enlightment followed by ritualistic suicide to join one's waifu in nonexistence.
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>>100616720
I said above power levels. things such as nostalgic feelings for old animation, unique character designs, cheesy plot (cheesy in a good way, like an unintentionally funny zombie movie)
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>>100617109
> things such as nostalgic feelings for old animation

So all old shounen is actually seinen
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>>100617199
>>100617109
Shonen isn't a genre
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>>100614752
THANK YOU BASED INFERNO COP
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>>100617349
>shounen isn´t a genre
what?
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Moe is fine as long as it's an element within a show. Being moe just for the sake of cute girl doing cute thing is an evidence of lacking originality and creative ideas. I wonder why /a/ loses its edge every time the topic of moe is brought up.

Once upon the time, doing mundane things within an ongoing show is fillershit. Now, filler has become the show. That said, the number of purely "moe" show is actually far less than what people assume due to the fact that moe elements are abundant in almost every show they see.
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>>100617405
Shounen isn't a genre.
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>>100612549
This is actually pretty true. Though I started at phase 2 more so. Started with Sailor Moon then Toonami -> Midnight Run -> adult swim

So my stage 2 and 3 were a little mixed cause I was exposed to stuff like Gundam 0080 and Witch Hunter Robin and Wolf's Rain, which I would say a "deeper" than your average Naruto episode.

I'm happy enjoying all genres now though. I think it's more an evolution of coming to enjoy ALL ANIME GENRES rather an you go from only liking one type to the next type. Like when you're younger and think you're only good enough for like Fairy Tale or on the other hand Egro Proxy. As season anime viewer, you can see the strengths in everything.

I can sit down and watch Chuu2, Wizard Barristers and Nagi no Asukara all in the same season and love them all the same.
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>>100617405
It's a demographic. Typically hwen someone mentions shonen and manga they're talking about a marketing demographic. But there's mouth breathers that refer to shonen as a genre.
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>>100617446
>SOL is a new genre

my little anon can't be this braindead
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>>100617560,1

>I don't know how to read

Typical /a/tard



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