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Does Kaiji get better?

I'm trying to watch it, but these first few episodes have been so slow and boring. 80% of the episode is either someone sobbing, yelling, or just droning on and on in these rants.

I get it. The boat is full of depressed losers. Do they really need to spend 15 minutes each episode going into some pretentious and melodramatic monologue?
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>>100606232
I think you have a severe case of shit taste OP.
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Go back to your moeblobs and leave the adult anime to the adults.
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I dropped it after five episodes. Everyone looks jewish.
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I'll fight you bro, any time, come on faggot
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I'll help you out OP since you're clearly new and I didn't enjoy Kaiji very much either.
But there are series you just don't say bad things about on /a/. This is one of them.
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>>100606232
>The boat is full of depressed losers. Do they really need to spend 15 minutes each episode going into some pretentious and melodramatic monologue?
If you don't like that drop it. It just gets more and more.
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>Anime written to analyze the psychology of bitter and socially inept Japanese outcasts does not resonate well with western audiences.

Big surprise
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>FKMT
>pretentious
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>>100606699
>Implying it's not mainly about the gambling.
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>>100606760

The gambling is just a plot device, the psychology is the main theme.

This is the most commonly mentioned scene when people talk about Kaiji and it doesn't resonate with westerners at all. Almost no one lives like this in the west. The lives of the average westerner is defined by rampant hedonism and that whole YOLO mentality, so a repressed and uniquely Japanese concept like "My real life hasn't started yet. The real me is still asleep." just sounds comically pathetic to most westerners while it hits home when a Japanese person sees it. This whole scene would have needed to have a laugh track with it if it aired in the US.

Kaiji wasn't meant for westerners.
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You have been confirmed shit taste. Please remedy it ASAP.
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>>100606232
>pretentious

fuk of mate
No one can be pretentious with this artstyle
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>>100607217

fug off normie
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>>100607217
What? Pretty sure just about every westerner with a shitty office job, or stacking shelves at the supermarket tells themselves exactly that when they go to sleep at night.
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>>100606232
Does your taste get better?
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Kaiji did drag things on way too long ruining what tension it built and the narrator was annoying as all fuck aswell.
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>>100607416
This, also scenes like that are rather "rare" in Kaiji. I won't say social and psychological problems don't play a role, but just watch/read the part about the Bog for example. There are very few monologues like that..
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>>100607467
>narrator annoying as fuck

wow could you BE anymore wrong?
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>>100607416

>Pretty sure just about every westerner with a shitty office job, or stacking shelves at the supermarket tells themselves exactly that when they go to sleep at night.

Maybe in the 1920s, but the widespread usage of drugs has immensely changed the western, primarily American, state of mind. I worked in a grocery store for years and no one was depressed about it because everyone that worked there was taking drugs so that they could enjoy their work and when they weren't working then they were taking other drugs to enjoy their time off.

Whether it's illicit drug use, prescription drug abuse, or just a whole lot of antidepressants, you would be hard pressed to find a single American who isn't on something to make it near impossible for them to feel intense negative emotions. It's a different story in Japan though, their nation isn't filled with drug addicts.
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Fucking pachinko

Akagi was better
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>>100607217
This scene is what keeps me from watching it. Not because it doesn't resonate, but because it DOES. Every fucking scene in this anime strikes a cord and makes me so sad.

I will pick it up in time...
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>>100607891
>Akagi was better

What? No way. Akagi himself is boring in how brillant he is. I'd much rather a degenerate like Kaiji who openly shows emotions and does get into shitty situations than someone who coasts through them without breaking a sweat. Makes a more entertaining and memorable watch.
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>>100608093
>degenerate like Kaiji
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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>>100607891
The pachinko arc was one of the most amazing things ever
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>>100608093
>Zeros bread hanging lower
Are you implying Zeros quests/gambles were easier than those of the others?
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>>100608093
What the hell are they supposed to be doing?
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>>100608186
Everyone said it was shit but it was exhilarating. Brilliant stuff.

Makes me sad we'll probably never get a third season.
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>>100608258
Haven't you ever seen sports days in your chinese cartoons where people have to catch bread with their mouth?
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>>100607867
You really have no idea what you are talking about comeback when you are out of highschool kid.
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>>100608262
I think some of the people who don't like it had to watch it as it aired. It was agonizing, and probably the last show where I genuinely anticipated every episode throughout the week.
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>>100608258
Well they're obviously trying to get bread. Kaiji is just failing at it.
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>>100607217
But it does resonate with me anon. Stop generalizing.


OP, just drop it right now if you didn't enjoy the first few episodes.
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>>100608350

Do we live in the same country or do you just never go outside?

>"1 in 5 Americans take at least one psychiatric medication."
>"More than 22 million Americans age 12 and older - nearly 9% of the U.S. population - use illegal drugs, according to the government’s 2010 National Survey on Drug Use and Health."

http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/08/study-22-million-americans-use-illegal-drugs-3/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/antidepressant-use-soars-study-says-is-depression-overdiagnosed/
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/20/health/a-dry-pipeline-for-psychiatric-drugs.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n4PyUouR7Q
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>>100608743
>1 in 5 is on medication
>not even 1 in 10 uses illegal drugs (most of that is probably something like weed and if you count alcohol as a drug that would make it an illegal drug for anyone under 21, so those numbers aren't really that impressive.

Take a chill pill dude. You made it sound like everyone around you is on drugs
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>>100607217

nah, every outcast can relate. Normal japanese wont get it either. anywho the context makes more sense when you watch it.

one of my fave scenes in Kaiji was the convinience store part...
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>>100609630
You mean where Kaiji's really awkward at dealing with other people
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvJGKyiGPyQ
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>>100609886
ED 2 = OP > ED 1
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>>100609376
Just because the total is 20%, that doesn't mean 1 out of every 5 people he knows are taking psychiatric meds and the rest aren't. If his work conditions are shit and he's on the "right" social environment, it might be that a majority of people around him do indeed take pills.

The same goes for other drugs. Maybe few people around him use illegal drugs, but someone who works on the stock market might know a shitload of people who do hard drugs to keep alert throughout the day.

The numbers don't tell the whole story. Distribution is an important factor to consider, too.
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>>100608186
>>100608262
Agreeing with you guys. Best arc of anything ever.
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The people who like Kaiji are the same people who like NHK.

It's pandering to self-hating NEETs just as much as slice of life panders to fun-loving and genuinely happy NEETs.
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>>100610038
Yeah, but then you're just extrapolating your own surroundings to the entire population.
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>>100610762
What if I like both? Does that mean that I'm happy and self-hating?
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>>100610762
That doesn't make any fucking sense
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>>100610764

I'd say that it's more like extrapolating a metropolitan lifestyle to the entire population. The vast majority of that 20% live within cities or suburbs on the west coast or in the north east. When people think of the US, they generally aren't thinking of the people who live in the flyover states. Even people within the US ignore those places.

>http://www.businessinsider.com/15-maps-that-show-how-americans-use-drugs-2013-9

As these maps show, the use of illicit drugs and prescription drugs is almost non-existent in the massive areas of rural land in the south and midwest, but alcohol and tobacco is far higher in those areas than in the west coast or the north east.

It's pretty safe to say that a huge amount of Americans who live in major cities are either using illicit drugs, antidepressants, or prescription stimulants, while people in the rural areas of the US lean more towards alcohol, tobacco, and small pockets of prescription pain killer abuse, most likely an addiction formed from developing chronic pain during a manual labor related injury.
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>>100610762
I'll bite but are you fucking retarded?

Kaiji appeals to anyone with a decent attention span.

Hell, my normalfag cousins watched all of it on my laptop while they were over.
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>>100606232
>but these first few episodes have been so slow

Pacing is the biggest issue with the Kaiji anime otherwise it's fantastic.
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>>100611315

Misery loves company. People who watch Kaiji and NHK want to circlejerk in the "feels" of depression. Happy NEETs can't relate to it because Happy NEETs are child-like and innocent. They want to watch things that are cute and happy, like they are.



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